Crime

Gag Order Silences Parents of Boy Charged With Sexual Assault for Playing Doctor

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WISC-TV, the CBS affiliate in Madison, reports that Grant County, Wisconsin, District Attorney Lisa Riniker, who charged a 6-year-old boy with first-degree sexual assault becaused he played doctor with a 5-year-old girl, has obtained a gag order that prohibits his parents, who have sued Riniker and two other county officials, from talking about the case. Iowa County Judge Bill Dyke issued the order last Monday, forcing the boy's parents to cancel a planned interview with WISC. The station spoke instead with their lawyers, who are not covered by the order:

"That behavior by a prosecutor is outrageous," said Christopher Cooper, an attorney for the boy's parents….

"She [Riniker] bypassed the parents and sent a 6-year-old boy a summons, on which is a threat that the 6-year-old will go to jail for failure to appear," Cooper said.

The attorneys said they have sought the opinion of many experts who said that children "playing doctor" is not a sex crime.

"[The experts say] a 6-year-old child is unable to intellectually and emotionally associate sexual gratification with the act that D has been accused of committing," Cooper said….

Repeated calls to Riniker and an attorney for [her] and two co-defendants have gone unanswered since Friday, WISC-TV reported.

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188 responses to “Gag Order Silences Parents of Boy Charged With Sexual Assault for Playing Doctor

  1. Paging Ken Shultz…Ken Shultz…your attention is needed here.

    1. Perhaps I may be of assistance.

      1. “In what way?” she asked sheepishly.

        1. District Attorney.
          Lisa Riniker.
          Address, 130 W. Maple Street Lancaster, Wisconsin 53813.
          Phone Number, 608-723-4237

          1. That’ll show her!

  2. District Attorney Lisa Riniker, who charged a 6-year-old boy with first-degree sexual assault becaused he played doctor with a 5-year-old girl, has obtained a gag order

    Kinky.

  3. D.A. Lisa Riniker…a fabulous lady or what?

    1. The kid is clearly a sexual predator in the making. This behavior needs to be nipped in the bud for the good of society.

      1. Should he….fry, Nancy?

      2. Not at all familiar with your comment history, but I really hope that’s sarcasm. If not, then why not advocate for chemical castration now?

        1. Here is some info on my background.

          1. Prejudging a case before all the facts are in? That’s unacceptable!

            1. +1 to Hit&Run;

              1. I didn’t know anyone here was prejudging the case.

                1. Ken Shults has certainly prejudged you and /or Restoras.

          2. hype and rabid persona, check…

          3. so what you’re saying is that you are the reason i fucking hate america right now?

        2. Dude, it’s Nancy fucking Grace.

          1. Actually it’s really not.
            Besides, imagine how much happier you’d be if you had never heard of Nancy fucking GRace.

            1. It’s why retards seem so happy.

              1. PLEASE do not use the term “retard” — it’s totally devaluing a population of wonderful, loving individuals.

      3. Nancy, I do not know ANYONE who did not play doctor as a child. YOU are an idiot!

        1. Nope, a person that successfully makes you believe satire is definitely not an idiot. However, the fool that can’t tell when something is satire is clearly an idiot. To make things clear Dee, that means you.

        2. i know its hard to read sarcasm, but come on. please get with it.

        3. No, Dee, you’re the fucking idiot.

      4. OMG I read who yo are. And I have to say “are you serious. I remember playing doctor when I was about that age too. mom caught us, told his mom and you know what no DA got involved, and we both grow up to be normal happy adults. Wonder how many others here would say the same.

    2. I’m sure there’s a sweetheart hiding beneath the layers of evil.

  4. Grade A cunt material.

    1. One person named Ken likes this.

    2. That’s what my wallet is made of!

      1. It stretches like no other material, enabling the wallet to hold huge wads, of cash or whatever.

  5. Is there some kind of mass shaming of Ms. Riniker that could occur? Seriously, what if a few hundred thousand people sent her letters telling her what a worthless shitbag she is. What if every time she stepped out of her house someone was there to call her a fascist pig.

    I am not advocating violence. But it is clear the normal means of controlling these people has failed. We need to come up with something else.

    1. John, I’m afraid that sort of thing would bring embarrassment to the libertarian movement. Or so I’ve been told.

      1. She’s a real sheep fu….

        1. “I can not say for certain whether D.A. Lisa Riniker likes to f— sheep, but it certainly might be true.”

          1. Note to commenters: This costly and time-consuming litigation is over, and we do not want to see any further lawsuits filed as a result of comments on our site. Because it is impossible for us to screen and monitor all comments, we have disabled them on this post.

            1. I was being cautiously vague. Nothing in my statement was legally false or slanderous.

              1. Besides that, slander only applies when spoken *by* public figures.

                The public is free to say what they wish about those public figures. This includes public servants as well as members of the media.

          2. Yes.

            It’s true.

            This man has no penis!

            (That’s what I heard!)

          3. I built a magnificent wall and do they call me MacGregor the wall build, no! But just get caught kissing one sheep…

    2. Occupy DA Riniker?

      1. Have a few hundred people stand outside her house with signs that tell the truth.

        1. tell the truth

          As you imagine it.

          1. Truth is a perception.

            1. Here, hold this handgrenade. Now I’ll just pull this pin, and run away really fast… Please do tell me later whether your perception of truth was able to stop you from being blown into tiny, tiny bits.

        2. Are you on record as favoring that sort of treatment for bank chairman?

          1. As long as they are also protesting the representatives and senators that voted yes on the bailouts, I don’t have a problem with people protesting the bank chairmen.

      2. Occupy DA Riniker?

        Alright, who is going to fall on that grenade? Anybody really desperate and/or drunk right now?

        1. She might be a fascist sow, but I’ll fuck her anyhow!

          1. You’re her achilles heel.

        2. You haven’t seen her Facebook page. She’s actually kinda cute.

          1. I’d fuck her, but only after lengthy paperwork preventing her from filing charges afterward.

            1. Gag order 🙂

    3. John, show us on the doll where the DA touched you…

      1. …can’t point to my psyche.

    4. She’s definitely in the running for Radley Balko’s annual award for worst prosecutor.

      Joking aside, I think filing complaints with the state bar association might be warranted.

    5. Whats wrong with violence? When used in response to an act of aggression, which these malicious criminal prosecutions of a child certainly are, violence is perfectly acceptable. In fact, it is the lack of violence which enables these aggressions in the first place – the aggressors have no deterrents to their behavior.

    6. Nah, here in Wisconsin we’re too busy trying to spend millions of tax dollars on a recall election of the governor.

  6. Interview with the attorneys is on the “Stop Lisa Riniker” Facebook page:
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/…..4377084961

  7. The station spoke instead with their lawyers, who are not covered by the order

    An oversight which will most likely be remedied in short order.

  8. D.A. Lisa Riniker…a fabulous lady or what?

    I think we may have found our next Surgeon General.

  9. Correct me if I’m wrong, but under common law, isn’t a child under the age of 7 considered incapable of forming the mens rea to commit a crime?

    Why did this even make it past a magistrate? Is this another Tonya Craft trial in the making?

    1. I remember that trial, too – another real winner, eh? The stoopid knows no bounds.

    2. You’re right, and Wisconsin even has a statute to that effect. DA Rinniker claimed that the criminal complaint was part of a deal to get the “docor” into services.

      Minors of this age can be charged for “status offenses,” which aren’t crimes, but do involve a lot of criminal-like intervention by courts.

      1. How’s that supposed to work? Like the mechanical orange? Teach the kid to dislike sex?

        1. The kid can be placed in-patient or out-patient counseling, group therapy, foster parented, etc. Judges in juvie cases have a lot of discretion.

          I think hte idea is that some adults don’t believe that a 6 yo could be interested in another kid’s butt without some molestation history somewhere.

          1. perhaps it went something like this…
            kid walks into the house and hears an adult conversation
            adult 1″so i went to the butt doctor today and had the weirdest thing happen to me.”
            adult 2″ really what?”
            adult 1″when the doc had his fingers up my ass i busted a nut, lucky for me the doc was prepared and had a cup under my junk to catch it when it shot out.”
            adult 2″….. WTF is wrong with you…oh shit the kid is here lets change the subject.”

            when i was growing up i heard many conversations that left me going WTF…and yes i did play all kinds of doctor with the neighborhood kids and i was never molested.

      2. ‘”[The experts say] a 6-year-old child is unable to intellectually and emotionally associate sexual gratification with the act that D has been accused of committing,” Cooper said’

        This is patent nonsense. Of course six year olds can associate sex with sex play. I certainly understood that by age four (or earlier – memories from that time are sometimes a bit hazy as to the date).

        Of course, that doesn’t mean that childhood sex play is wrong or harmful, however much the folks at church said it was – and it certainly doesn’t excuse some dumbshit prosecutor for trying to make a felon out of a six year old.

        1. “Of course six year olds can associate sex with sex play.”

          That’s not what they said asshole, why do you fucking morons always misread shit then act like idiots?

        2. “Of course six year olds can associate sex with sex play.”

          That’s not what they said asshole, why do you fucking morons always misread shit then act like idiots?

        3. “Of course six year olds can associate sex with sex play.”

          That’s not what they said asshole, why do you fucking morons always misread shit then act like idiots?

        4. “Of course six year olds can associate sex with sex play.”

          That’s not what they said asshole, why do you fucking morons always misread shit then act like idiots?

        5. “Of course six year olds can associate sex with sex play.”

          That’s not what they said asshole, why do you fucking morons always misread shit then act like idiots?

        6. “Of course six year olds can associate sex with sex play.”

          That’s not what they said asshole, why do you fucking morons always misread shit then act like idiots?

        7. “Of course six year olds can associate sex with sex play.”

          That’s not what they said asshole, why do you fucking morons always misread shit then act like idiots?

  10. I’ve decided I’m going back to being “bemused” by the world, instead of outraged.

    It’s how I keep from blowing off my – or someone else’s – head. Shit like this…I’m trying to be “bemused”….

    1. Al, you look…bemused.

    2. It really is the only way. Outrage is so fucking draining and has a physical toll if it goes on for too long.

    3. Is there a Parson, much bemus’d in beer,
      A maudlin Poetess, a ryming Peer,
      A clerk, foredoom’d his father’s soul to cross,
      Who pens a stanza, when he should engross?

    4. i used to be disgusted, now i try to be amused – elvis costello doing nick lowe

  11. Among the suit’s claims is that the boy was selectively accused of a felony for playing doctor with the daughter of a Grant County political figure. It also alleges that the investigations by Kopp and Moravits were haphazard and biased in favor of the girl’s father because of his political status and that Riniker did not act reasonably in charging a 6-year-old with first-degree sexual assault.

    href=”http://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/parents-of-boy-accused-of-sex-assault-file-lawsuit/article_9a1b356a-<a 119d-11e1-80ca-001cc4c03286.html”>Possible Political Motives?
    I really would love to know who the father of the girl is.

  12. Among the suit’s claims is that the boy was selectively accused of a felony for playing doctor with the daughter of a Grant County political figure. It also alleges that the investigations by Kopp and Moravits were haphazard and biased in favor of the girl’s father because of his political status and that Riniker did not act reasonably in charging a 6-year-old with first-degree sexual assault.

    href=”http://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/parents-of-boy-accused-of-sex-assault-file-lawsuit/article_9a1b356a-<a 119d-11e1-80ca-001cc4c03286.html”>Possible Political Motives?
    I really would love to know who the father of the girl is.

    1. html fail.

    2. Nipplemancer’s link to the “Possible Political Motives?” article.

    3. How the fuck do you get all of the attributes correct but forget the tag?

  13. It doesn’t matter if he understands… it’s the seriousness of the crime we should consider!

  14. Judge Bill Dyke issued the gag order in a case about a boy playing butt doctor.

    This dirty joke potential of the case couldn’t get any better.

    The facts, as reported here, are a little different: http://host.madison.com/wsj/ne…..002e0.html

    Basically, mom of “patient zero” claims she saw boy penetrate daughter. Whether you call it a “game” or “criminal” or “yecchh!”, that’s got to be disturbing to mom. Dad of the girl is a county official, thus it appears that CPS and DA may be garnering political favor.

    Mom and dad of the “doctor” are suing for $12 million. But don’t worry, it’s not about the money. It’s aobut justice. Or something.

    I had a similar case come up in my legal life: mom furious that her 6 yo daughter engaged in “sexual” contact with another 6 yo at school and demanding that something be done. Legally speaking, there’s no chance of prosecution, the best you can do is question the participants and see if either got the idea from a pervy uncle.

    1. she saw boy penetrate daughter

      With his finger. BFD. People are stupid. If that doucebag feaked-out Mom thinks for one second that a six year old boy was doing that to get aroused, she a total nit.

      1. With his finger. BFD.

        That’s easy to say when it’s someone else’s ass. When it’s your ass, it is a BFD indeed.

        Don’t ask me how I know. I just know, alright?

        1. I wanna know who the hell was watching these 6 year old kids. Babysitter? Teacher? Parent? Someone did a lousy job.

          1. These kids were friends playing at the “victim’s” house. I hope we haven’t reached the point where kids are supposed to be under constant surveillance while playing with their friends.

            1. Gee, why wasn’t the mother “properly supervising” those children? It seems that she is a neglectful parent. Something should be done about that…

            2. “I hope we haven’t reached the point where kids are supposed to be under constant surveillance while playing with their friends.”

              No, you stupid fucking cunt, we’ve reached the point where if you’re watching your fucking kids, and you don;t want them p[laying doctor, then you WATCH THEM CLOSELY ENOUGH THAT THEY DON’T PLAY DOCTOR.

              What the fuck is wrong with you?

      2. What if he did get aroused? All else equal, isn’t that a good thing? Or is the idea that the enjoyment is the evil?

        1. The idea is that if you allow people to arouse themselves in that fashion you’ll get a lot more unwanted digital penetration.

          1. how about a “fast track” to TSA U. …
            another job made or saved!

      3. I got plenty of full fledged erections when I was “playing doctor” at that age.

      4. Of course a six year old boy would be aroused by that. Don’t any of you remember being six years old?

        More to the point, so what? What exactly is so evil about sex play anyhow? It’s an important part of growing up, as those of us who missed out on it know. (Damned churches and their satanic teachings!)

    2. “Justice” would involve the DA being dragged out of her house kicking and screaming (preferably in front of her minor children if she has any) as the authorities put it on the auction block to pay off the civil judgment.

      1. Thats what Im talking about!

      2. “”Justice” would involve the DA being dragged out of her house kicking and screaming (preferably in front of her minor children if she has any) as the authorities put it her on the auction block to pay off the civil judgment.”

        FIFY.

        1. You didn’t fix it. You killed it.

  15. The gag order is the best news for the parents; it will keep the case in the news and help snowball attention to the DA’s idiocy

  16. Thanks for the update, Reason staff.

  17. Ms Riniker wants to hear from you!

    Please send ideas to: Lisa.Riniker@da.wi.gov

    Or feel free to give her a shout at 608-723-4237. Her staff are standing by.

    1. You are a great American sloopy.

    2. Putting publicly available government information on a buried comments section shows how bad libertarians are! Or something!

      1. Not bad. Just ineffectual.

        1. You’re right. We’ll have a bigger impact on people if we just stay in an echo chamber and give our silent assent.

          1. You’re right about the echo chamber. But you have no “impact” on anyone now and you’ve never had any. A chat room is just that.

            1. But you have no “impact” on anyone now and you’ve never had any.

              Speak for yourself. Or don’t, I really don’t give a fuck. But please don’t speak for me or for my ability to influence people.

              1. I’m speaking to you, not for you. And chatting in a chat room is every bit as effectual as signing an internet petition.

              2. she’s a public official. she needs to accept the slings and arrows of dissent, as it were.

                and god i hope it’s a metric assload thereof.

                what a fucking idiot

                1. This isn’t a chat room. It’s the comments section of a blog. You could generuously called it a forum. But it’s not a chat room.

      2. If you’ve done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide.

    3. William Dyke, former Republican mayor of Madison and 7th Judicial District Circuit Court presiding judge, believes in keeping in touch with the public.

      He welcomes your calls to his office at (608) 935-0347.

      1. I predict exactly zero calls.

        1. You would already be off by one.

          1. Still on hold?

          2. Make that two.

            1. I thought I felt the earth move.

      2. “Hello, Judge Dyke? Who’s the bigger lesbo: Melissa Ethridge or Ellen d’generes? How can you say you don’t know? What else does a Dyke Judge do?”

        1. How much bull could a bull dyke judge if a bull dyke could judge bull?

          1. see…
            and who said the monday after a holiday weekend can’t be fun…

        2. You are the wind beneath my wings.

      3. Madison had a Republican mayor?

  18. I blame television for this kid’s actions.

    We need the FCC to step in.

  19. This is what dystopia looks like.

  20. For a prosecutor, it’s all about the win.

  21. Bitch, yougonnagetrapped

    1. Rapped? Old school or that shit these kids listed to today?

      1. Oh c’mon. Its not rap rap.

        1. What? You gon nage trapped?

          Is that the new urban youth lingo for getting pinched by the constabulary?

  22. I just saw a Michelle Obama PSA and couldn’t help noticing that she has a face that could strip paint.

    1. No, no, no. As a youngish Democrat president, Barack and Michelle are elegant. Elegant I tell ya!

      1. the crease to his trousers! that splits paint I tell ya!

        1. he sure creases mine…

  23. Come on, the kid is 6 years old. He’s not old enough to be trained by society definition of perversion by religious right and political correctness/ victimology by the feminist left.

  24. Serious question: How can a state circuit judge issue a gag order on a federal civil case? Can a federal judge trump his bullshit?

  25. a 6-year-old child is unable to intellectually and emotionally associate sexual gratification with the act

    What if she were able to associate them? What difference would that make that bears on whether it could be harassment?

  26. I meant assault, not harassment. What difference would it make in determining whether the other kid was injured or attacked if the one kid knew the adult way to enjoy it?

    1. I think the point is not that the victim can’t associate them, but rather the ‘perpetrator’ cannot associate them. If there was no intent and the actions are otherwise reasonably innocent, then framing it as assault or abuse is probably inappropriate.

    2. More importantly, IT WAS CONSENSUAL!

      Don’t the statutory rape laws in Wisconsin require that when both parties are minors that one of them has to be at least 2 years older than the other one in order for the law to mean anything?

  27. I just imagined Newt laughing maniacally after being sworn in and learning of his new powers, and will now promptly attempt to vigorously drink the vision out of my head

    1. I’m so distraught, I posted this in the wrong thread :/

  28. There once was a lady named Riniker…

    1. I believe I covered this in the thread last week.

  29. I remember playing doctor in about the second grade (age 8 or 9). The girl and I were in a large doghouse. Parts were shown; parts were touched. Both parties exhibited clear signs of arousal. So what? It was consensual.

    1. “So what?”
      What do you mean “so what?” ? It’s BAAAAAD, and you should be ashamed of yourself for destroying this poor girl’s life.

    2. But the experts swear that children that age are not capable of being aroused! They’re experts for God’s sake! The experience of the masses counts for nothing!

  30. The gag order is ostensibly to protect the identity of the alleged victim.

  31. Holy crap! I’m glad people weren’t this stupid when I was a kid. I’d have been on the sex offender list since I was 3 years old.

  32. this is what happens when you let women into the justice system: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_2LpLhOsc4

  33. oboi, i cant wait for SVU to rip this and make the little guy into a “true” monster.

  34. Fuck. I was at work and missed this thread……

    1. I’ll alert the media.

  35. Here’s a sex crime: Lewis E. Braverman MD sexually assaulting all of his female patients with indecent A&B of the breasts while being treated for endocrine disorders. The number of assaults exceed 40K, all of them witnessed.

    If prosecutors spent less time on indicting children and the prosecuting the drug war, then some real super-felons who endanger women and children would be brought to justice.

    Would you want to be subjected to felony assault by this guy?… Dr. Lewis Braverman – YouTube http://bit.ly/uTgGDc

  36. Lawyers are the scum of the earth…I would not give them the dog shiat from my boot heel if they were starving…as far as I am concerned they could all die tomorrow and the world would be great again….F U you kunt

  37. I wonder where she got the idea of using accusations of sex crimes as a means of attacking people who have offended her political clique?

    Anyhow…still waiting for charges of felony oxygen-theft to be filed against Riniker.

  38. The feminist score so far:

    http://feministing.com/?s=lisa…..mit=Search : No results.

    Search for “Lisa Riniker” on Jezebel eventually timed out: No results.

  39. Such things just happen in the USA, Saudi Arabia or other third-world, analphabetic countries…I mean… Come on, that’s just unbelievable

  40. Well, when everyone blindly supported a public registry, it was only a matter of time until it came to this. What will it take to stop the madness? Abolishing the public registry is a good place to start.

  41. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. This “child” knew exactly what he was doing. No doubt his Kenyan Marxist “bro” will pardon him like he did ACORN.

  42. I don’t know if anybody else has mentioned this yet, but I was just reading more about the case here, and apparently the 6-year old boy is also developmentally delayed, and doesn’t even have the mental capacity of a normal 6-year old.

  43. you must be joking ! Charge the parents not the child when we are young we like to experiment and play or while we play but with no bad intentions ,It’s the parents fault for not paying attention to their kids and telling them that they shouldn’t be doing that…and wth i mean what about the pope? he covered the bishops sexual relationship with a young teen and the authorities didn’t do anything….? this is beyond Ridiculous a child can be judged as a Criminal but not their ”holly” stupid bishops who are immune to law ? Laws need to be enforced even if they are on a good rank on their ridiculous Religions but that’s a hole another subject

    1. And why should the parents have stopped them?

      I still have issues about sex because of being punished for playing doctor when I was about that age.

      http://www.psychologytoday.com…..ing-doctor

  44. I hope they have chicken nuggets in jail.

    1. Awesome! I laughed real hard @ this one.

  45. no prizes tho’

  46. What a stupid bitch.

  47. lucky kid. lol

  48. Uh, it takes two to play doctor. Why wasn’t the girl charged also? She’s just as guilty. The prosecutor needs jail time more than the kid. What a sick f*cked up country this turned out to be.

  49. Doctor?? Yeah I could see going to jail for that, now truth and dare.. thats the kind of game we used to play as kids… Much more PG rated!!

  50. Religion = a hole other subject. From somewhere up yonder in the thread…

    Anyone? Somebody could really run with that one.

  51. I went from a general practice at 6 to becomeing a gynocologist at 7…then I did a stretch at the post office, and spun a few bottles really? assult at 6 FOR PLAYING DR!? what idiot thought that was a bad thing

  52. Whatever happened to de minimis non curat lex? That seems to be the straightforward answer to this imbecile of a prosecuting attorney.

    1. you’d think so Rob, but the number of frivolous lawsuits over things liek hot coffee spills says otherwise. It’s another example of our rights getting chipped away and the sheep populis letting it happen. Bahh bahhhh

  53. Obviously corruptness going on here, they want to shut them up so this boy cam remained charged.

    I suspect the political official molested his children, hence his son and daughter both being involved in incest. Kids who are sexually abused very often act out on other kids.

    Hence probably why he is really trying to get this other kid charged so if anything comes forth from the girl later in life it can be blamed on the “sexual offender”

  54. Please, everyone email the DA and tell her how absolutely disguising this is.
    Lisa.Riniker@da.wi.gov

    1. *disgusting
      Is there a way to edit comments?

  55. The Attorney should be stripped from her title, and then placed into a mental facility. Cause if you’re charging a 6 year old for sexual assault for playing doctor. You’re obviously not mentally balanced enough to think clearly, or maybe she’s just incredibly corrupt and greedy. That’s probably it. Seems to be the thing for wealthy Americans/Europians today.

    This country has gone to the dogs. The boy should just kill himself now, cause his life is already ruined after what this corrupt piece of crap did to him.

    If I was the boy I’d realize I’m already considered a criminal for doing something that everyone does at that age. Why go to school? Why be a law abiding citizen? Won’t get a good job after this anyways. So drop out, and go into a life of crime, selling drugs, maybe human trafficking. Cause that’s all that boy’s going to get, or if he is a law abiding citizen after this, he’ll have to live with mom and dad for the rest of his life.

    This type of shit, is what makes criminals!

    I hope you make a load of money off of this kid Lisa Riniker! Cause you’re not going to have a job for long, WE THE PEOPLE are going to force you to step down.

    IT’S TIME TO WEED OUT THE CORRUPT!!

  56. Why do I get the feeling nobody ever wanted to play doctor with Riniker when she was a child?

    Are there really folks that never played doctor at that age? Apparently so: they grew up to become repressed DA’s.

  57. All children I know of played doctor in their early years, and at age 6 it isn’t about sex but curiosity. The DA and judge should be disbarred for even considering the case and wasting our taxes. They are intellectually bawnkrupt!!!

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