Texas TSA Bill Revived
The Texas bill aimed at criminalizing TSA groping of airline passengers, which was unanimously approved by the state House last month but dropped by its chief Senate sponsor in response to federal threats, has been revived in a special legislative session by Gov. Rick Perry. Today the House passed a revised version of the bill, which applies to a public servant who, "while acting under color of the person's office or employment, without probable cause to believe the other person committed an offense, performs a search without effective consent for the purpose of granting access to a publicly accessible building or form of transportation" and "intentionally, knowingly or recklessly touches the anus, sexual organ, buttocks, or breast of the other person, including touching through the clothing." In a press release that just arrived in my inbox, the bill's chief sponsor, Rep. David Simpson (R-Longview), says:
We've been working with the Attorney General's office from the very beginning to ensure that the bill will accomplish our goal of stopping the humiliation of travelers while also maintaining language that will withstand judicial scrutiny. Texas citizens deserve to be protected under the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution and Article 1 Section 9 of the Texas Constitution. Today the Texas House took a positive step toward protecting those rights.
The bill passed despite resistance from House Speaker Joe Straus, who dismissed it as "an ill-advised publicity stunt," saying he wanted to "send a message without actually harming commercial aviation in Texas" (a reference to U.S. Attorney John E. Murphy's warning that the TSA might be forced to shut down Texas airports) and "without making the Texas Legislature a laughingstock." The ball is now back in the state Senate's court, with two more days to go in the special legislative session.
Earlier today Mike Riggs reviewed some of the incidents that have made this sort of legislation appealing.
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I hope they do it, and I hope the feds try and shut them done, and they fly anyway. How about a little fuckin' rebellion. Hell Yeah. Oh who am I kiddin'. It's not gonna happen.
Obama would dispatch F-15s to blow them out of the sky as soon as they crossed into Arkansas.
A man who has to leave the house to eat a decent cut of meat, or even a burger?
Doubt it.
I dunno, if my diet were restricted the Plant Pyramid I'd be one angry mothafugga, capable of a lot of barbarities.
So that's why vegans are so violent. Because of Tulpa. It all makes sense now.
Try to think of something that makes you want to kill people more than Tulpa. Damn right it makes sense.
think of something that makes you want to kill people more than Tulpa
People who throw snowballs?
But then we'd finally realize that our government are no better than terrorists, and treat them accordingly. So, there's that.
In Jericho, the Texas ANG did a pretty good job when the feds tried to invade.
Another good show that nobody watched.
If Texas seceded, they would have many people applying to be citizens.
And we would open the borders to welcome you (and your money) in. -in actuallity, they probably wouldn't, but I'd sneak you in illegally, unless you are from OK.
the anus, sexual organ, buttocks, or breast
Can't they say "naughty bits"? No? Too vague? Too British?
Well, OK - this is Tejas, after all.
Also, I'm sure one of those TSA sharpies will notice TX didn't specifically mention "taint". Just wanted to point that out.
TX - you sure you don't want to go with "naughty bits"?
How does one "brush the taint" without also contacting the buttocks, anus, or genitals? Is the TSA composed of midgets or do they all have really tiny hands?
Sheesh! These are highly trained, highly skilled union gropers you're talking about here. And, they practice every day.
Finally, the anus is recognized as an official sex organ!
Unfortunately, frotteurs have to wait for another day for their recognition.
I'm pretty sure the TSA and the law are on their side. As long as the unwilling strangers are in airports.
Airports are NOT like post offices. They are not federal bastions in the land of the state.
It's a sad commentary on the state of things that Strauss is worried about the Texas legislature becoming a laughingstock for reaffirming the rights of its constituents.
"A republic, if you can keep it."
This is madness!
This. . .is. . .Sparta!
If anyone is a laughingstock in this situation it's the TSA. Of course, they're laughingstocks with badges and guns, which does admittedly change the landscape.
Barney Fife had a badge and gun, too.
Dude, they never gave him a loaded one. Now that would have spelled tragedy.
TSA has guns? i guess a few of them might
The screeners don't but the U.S. Air Marshals do.
hope they do the good work.
I for one look forward to the TSA demanding access to passengers' anuses, sexual organs, buttocks and breasts. And they'll do it without a hint of self-awareness.
Flowers, perhaps?
Serious question: if this were to pass, would it not amount to a requirement that everyone in TX submit to the pornoscan variant of airport security theater? That is, no more opting out when the opt-out variant has been criminalized...
That's what the TSA is going to say according to the report "Unintended consequences of the Texas TSA Bill".
Can they also outlaw the pornoscan for the same reasons?
Dunno, just asking.
There was a companion bill in the general session but it didn't get anywhere.
There are other ways of opting out. Not that it's gonna help your flight plans much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEuZgK669zY
I don't anything will be as cool as I thought that scene was when I was 13.
*think
nicole|6.27.11 @ 8:58PM|#
Serious question...
New here, nicole?
You'll notice that I knew I had to specify.
You do realize that not all airports even have pornoscans currently. Terrorists haven't tried to fly out of Amarillo to take out a Texas landmark or anything.
TSA's latest initiative lured an eager celebrity to sign up for duty. SHOCKING story at: http://spnheadlines.blogspot.c.....ty_19.html
TSA down and lightbulbs to not go
Flava Cain's top two campaign staffers resign.
http://politicalticker.blogs.c.....rs-resign/
Tell it to someone who shares your 'issues'.
I want to see these bitches bite each others ears off!
Tell it to someone who shares your 'issues'.
BLACK bitches!
or 'tissues'
That was fucking racist, shrike.
Unless it's "okay" to say shit like that when it's *not* Obama.
Fucking prick.
Um...I don't see a possible interpretation of that that isn't racist. "Flava Cain"? Really?
I meant that the way liberals mean it, Spoonman.
shrike getting hard on from picture. me perverted Christ-fag
The Texas bill aimed at criminalizing TSA groping of airline passengers, which was unanimously approved by the state House last month but dropped by its chief Senate sponsor in response to federal threats, has been revived in a special legislative session by Gov. Rick Perry.
...who is using this issue as a springboard for his soon-to-be announced presidential campaign. Look how tough he is, standing up to Washington.
Hey, anything that causes pushback against the TSA is fine with me. It's not like I expect anything other than venality from a politician anyway.
You don't vote, so we don't care.
In everyone's mad rush to cause the federales grief, y'all have overlooked a huuuuuge unintended consequence: the terrorists will totally Charlie Sheen.
"I am battle-tested bayonets, bro."
HAHAHAHAHAHA
the terrorists will totally Charlie Sheen
I suppose they probably do have access to that much coke. Sniff it if ya got it, I always say!
Yeah this is coming from the guy who thinks all teenage girls should be vaccinated by the government for an STD. I don't think he gives a shit about civil liberties. But that doesn't make this bill any less awesome.
whatsamatta? you doan like rick "i used to be al gore's campaign manager" perry?
The only thing that will get rid of the TSA is something resembling a constitutional crisis or some state playing chicken with secession over the issue. Neither of them are likely at this point. It's really difficult for me to say just how hopeless it feels to ever get things back to the way they used to be. The terrorists won.
I dunno. I agree with you that the current system us pretty much entrenched, but if the right person wins the White House next year and proposes to terminate TSA (remember that DHS is an executive function), he might get away with it if his party controls both houses of Congress.
As discussed in another thread, the topic is a no-go during the campaign, but once in office I could see a Rick Perry or Michelle Bachmann type out of the blue signing an executive order privatizing airport security and daring his/her own Congress to overrule the decision.
It's a long shot, but not as long as the scenarios you propose.
I don't see Rick Perry doing it. He opposed the bill in the general session. He instituted a special phone line for this bill because he got so many calls regarding it. Once he realized how mega-popular it was, he decided to glom on. Rick Perry will never do anything radical unless it makes his hair look REALLY awesome.
I don't care if they stay or go, but let me walk through a goddamn metal detector with my shows on for christ sakes.
Oh, and the shoes must go on
did the shoes get... naaah, too easy 😉
The TSA will simply declare that expressing a desire to travel by air by possessing a valid ticket for a plane trip and approaching a security checkpoint with said ticket constitutes reasonable suspicion that the person holding the ticket is about to commit a crime.
^^this!!^^
This is already covered in the bill. Informed consent must be given at the time of the search and the "fine print" of the ticket does not count.
You can't blockquote within a blockquote. It's just not done.
And Obama is pretty tone deaf when it comes to economic growth. Put nothing of the sort past him.
I'll get to it once I shut down the ATMs.
Win the future!
More bars in more places.
You have just one missing / in your code and everybody gives ya a hard time . . .
You should see how pissy my bank gets over a misplaced decimal point
Unfortunately, I think this is indeed a stunt. And what would happen I think is that DHS would close said airports, someone on one side or the other would sue, and after a "crisis" of a week or so the Supremes would issue an emergency injunction reinstating TSA's primacy.
As much as I hate TSA personally, this is clearly a federal issue and (for once) legitimately covered by the commerce clause.
yet another perversion of the commerce clause
*spits*
Bullshit. Federal agency or not, the federal government has no right to restrict travel in leui of a national emergency.
I can see it as a "restriction of travel" argument, too. Good point.
What I'm saying, though, is that it would ultimately boil down to a "dispute between the states" (i.e. between Texas and some other state that's more into kinky touching) and in that regard the Supremes would rule that the federal government has constitutional jurisdiction and that, ultimately, just as Pisshole and the others say, travel isn't being restricted as much as air travel is being regulated. You can still get from California to Florida, you just have to walk, would be their reasoning.
Not that I agree with it or want it, I'm just making my own prediction as to how this would play out.
Let New York cancel Texas flights. Let's see who's worse off. By the time the supremes get to hearing the law, maybe the idiot states will have already buckled.
Agreed. Call their bluff. Make them publicly defend this bullshit in detail, over and over.
West Texas, you have not been paying attention during the general session!! Tsk tsk. I and many people have been working on this--attending committee hearings, constantly writing and phoning, meeting with reps. This is no "stunt". There was a large rally a couple weeks ago (no, not the Alex Jones one).
Also, this is not a federal issue. First, the federal government is constrained by the 4th amendment regarding searches. These searches ARE NOT EVEN LAW. They are policy. The commerce clause definitely does not cover this.
I took a shit in Texas, once.
Just trying to help out Sandi on this one.
Thanks for all you do.
Who exactly is Sandi?
Other than someone who takes a lot of shits in different places.
Go, you fuckers, go!! I don't care if it is a campaign stunt. SLAP THOSE BITCHES DOWN!
Perry is not even well like in Texas. He knows what the people will tolerate but he is a sleazy politician
rather is not even well liked on his own blog. He knows what his readers will tolerate but he is a complete idiot otherwise.
Greg, I'm so tempted to put my picture back on my blog but I rather enjoy your homoerotic fantasies that I am mover your gender.
I wrote a blog about it!
Tell me, do I get to bottom you, or do we take turns ?
http://rctlfy.wordpress.com/20.....-question/
This is what the TSA currently claims.
The good news is that the responses to each new TSA story on CNN etc run heavier and heavier in favor of a return to sanity.
The saddest thing is that I can't see any jurisdiction anywhere at any time soon reforming itself to the model of "government has a few just powers, never to be expanded in any way, and does only what is expressly delegated to it, while people do whatever is not expressly forbidden (violation contracts, violence, etc)" -- it's just going to be HEY LET'S HOPE THE LEGISLATURE RECOGNIZES OVER MUTUAL MASTURBATION SESSIONS IT'S BEEN VIOLATING OUR RIGHTS FOR THE LAST CENTURY AND REPEALS THESE SHITTY LABOR LAWS.
But some people DO change, and as blind as it may be, I hope to God that Perry's had some sort of epiphany and realization of his duty to his people -- and that he'll threaten (and carry out the threat if necessary) secession, for the reason that the federal government has effectivelly nullified the constitutional compact of the republic by overstepping the bounds of its authority at all, nevermind to such a hellishly unimaginable and colossal extent. At this point, even the staunchest, most authoritarian "Federalist" is spinning in his grave, violently distorting space-time.
Fuck the federales. It's time, I say.
Yeah, I'd love to see the Obama administration shut down the airports in Dallas and Houston on a fight over the important principle of allowing TSA employees to touch "the anus, sexual organ, buttocks, or breast of the other person."
The TSA has shut down all air travel to and from Texas until they repeal the law forbidding TSA agents to gently run their fingers up and down the ass-crack of little boys and girls.
Only when the government of Texas allows TSA agents to force elderly women to remove their diapers so that the agents may gently run their fingers up and down their ass-cracks will air transportation resume.
That is all.
If only a few more states with major hubs would join in, such as Florida, North Carolina, Arizona, and Georgia.
I doubt New York, Illinois, or Cali would join in. but it would not take much for the feds to buckle if a few states stood with Texas on this.
The south shall rise again
We're in. I'll call the governor.
I hope they do it and it causes a stink, as it would force the TSA and the administration to defend it's gross misconduct. I'm not sure what it's going to take to shake our citizens from the national atrophy on this issue.
"... on this issue."
You mean the millions of issues we're apathetic, obedient little slaves on? I agree.
How will we be safe from terrorists if TSA agents aren't allowed to gently run their fingers up and down the ass-crack of randomly selected passengers?
I certainly would not feel safe if a TSA agent was forbidden from running their fingers up and down the ass-crack of my eighteen month old daughter.
A terrorist may have put a bomb there.
You know, this might be a great time to decriminalize gun carry in airports -- you touch the passenger inappropriately, your despotic ass gets capped. Fuck the federales.
I think "Touch my junk and I'll shoot you in the head" is a much more powerful deterrent than "Touch my junk and I'll have you arrested."
Which is why they won't let you carry in airports. It's for the TSA agents.
New meaning to the term junkshot
in many states, like mine, anybody who can legally carry, can carry in airports. you can't carry in the SECURE areas of airports.. (unless you are a cop on extradition duty, etc.)
Aye
lol, the TSA is a JOKE. Biggest WASTE of an agency there is, period. A total waste of resources.
http://www.total-privacy.se.tc
Just imagining the nightly news readers trying to cover this story on the evening news makes me chuckle with glee. The bewildered expressions. "Apparently, Texas is trying to stand up to the federal government. Can they do that? I don't think they can do that. On the other hand, do I really want to defend granny-groping?" *smoke starts billowing from ears*
Maybe they'll cover it the way they covered Jose Guerena's murder, which is, not at all.
you mean his lawful killing. sorry, i was agnostic, but now that the investigation's completed ... i'm not.
he was lawfully killed. you can argue it was a poorly executed raid (it was), but there is evidence he pointed the rifle at the SWAT team. his bad
Even if the shooting was lawful, denying him medical treatment once he no longer posed a threat was unconscionable.
I'm to a point where I honestly believe people join the police in hopes of killing someone, and SWAT for the near certainty.
"there is evidence he pointed the rifle at the SWAT team"
Citation needed.
CB
He defended his self, his family and his property from armed thugs. "Lawful killing" my bare, white ass.
"Groping for safety IS FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!1111!!!!ROADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
THAT'S what the nightly newscasts will so eloquently use as their unassailable argument in favor of the TSA.
I can just see Diane Sawyer making that argument in her fake-sincere concerned way.
Three cheers for Texas!!!. They will lose the battle under the Supremacy Clause, but we might be able to win the war at the ballot box. I just wish the Virginia Legislature had the balls to pass a similar law.
thanks