'We're All Hostages to the Dopiest Person With a Phone'
On Tuesday morning, CBS Boston reports, two women were shopping in a Nordstrom department store at a mall in Burlington, Massachusetts, when they saw a guy carrying a novelty umbrella that resembles a samurai sword. They called 911 and reported that a man with a rifle was walking around the mall, whereupon "federal, state, and local police descended on the mall," which was evacuated and closed while police interrogated short white men wearing gray sweatshirts, black pants, and a black backpacks. Eventually the umbrella carrier, recognizing himself from this description, came forward and confessed that he is a total geek, at which point the mall was reopened. According to CBS Boston, Burlington Police Chief Michael Kent "praised the witnesses who saw something and said something," saying, "I would hope that if the exact same thing happened tomorrow that they would do the same thing, as would we." That was too much for Boston talk radio host Michael Graham, who comments:
Please, folks—just stop. Stop making yourselves look even more stupid by defending this stupidity. Just admit that the cops should have investigated the report first, then decided if they needed to unleash the SWAT teams and the helicopters.
Instead, by saying "Damn straight—and we'd do it again!", you've just empowered every attention-seeking nut and prank phone caller to shut down businesses at will. If all it takes is for someone to say they THINK they saw something that LOOKED like a rifle to shut down streets and close businesses, then we're all hostages to the dopiest person with a phone.
Worse, Burlington police Lt. Glen Mills suggested that the problem is not panicky people who can't tell the difference between a real gun and a pseudo-samurai umbrella but the irresponsible manufacturers and owners of such merchandise. "We live in a free country," Mills said, "and you can't regulate everything, but common sense should tell you something that can easily be mistaken for a weapon shouldn't be sold—and people shouldn't buy it."
Judge for yourself how easily the umbrella could be mistaken for a rifle:
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But that guy could have poked somebody's eye out!
The American people, taken one with another, constitute the most timorous, sniveling, poltroonish, ignominious mob of serfs and goose-steppers ever gathered under one flag in Christendom since the end of the middle ages.
~ H.L. Mencken
I'm buying one.
Samurai Umbrella
You could always get one of the other variants, and then defend yourself with this.
The video for the bulletproof clipboard is kinda cool. Real geeky dudes and dudette with guns.
It looks like nothing but an umbrella with a sword handle on it. Does the caller think that all umbrellas are rifles? Has he or she never actually seen a rifle before?
The person is from MA. Of course, they've never seen rifle.
The people I know from Mass know what rifles look like. But that is mostly because they have been to my house.
AHHH! A gun!
I found my next business. I'm gonna make kevlar umbrellas that really shoot.
Whatcha think? Would they sell?
You post the link for the website. I'll make the first purchase. Then, when I'm reported for carrying around my umbja (umbrella for ninja), I can later use the real one to slay the douchebag with the phone. (not srsly... well, maybe srsly... depends on how disrupted my day becomes as a result.)
Already invented.
I bought one for me and the wife just in protest of the police idiocy. And because they're neat.
It's always Massachusetts.
1-31-07
NEVER FORGET
Rifle, broomstick, Lite Brite, whatever. Call the law. Someone's a-witchin'.
For those who weren't paying attention a couple years back, or have forgotten, he wasn't joking about the Lite-Brite. Because, you know... terrorists often make bombs that light up and have smiley-face guys waving at you.
waving the bird...
There is no underestimating the idiocy of Massholes.
It's not always Massachusetts; the exact same thing happened in Virginia last month.
Tax those things!
Yeah but if it was an umbrella that looked like a sword that looked like a rifle that was actually a rifle in a sword looking umbrella who would have looked silly then?
Well, they do actually make umbrella guns...
Yeah, ask Georgi Markov about umbrella guns... Well, I guess you can't actually ask him because he's dead, of course, but whatever.
I remember seeing one in a movie, but can't recall where- maybe a Bond movie or something.
Ahem.
thanks!
"We live in a free country," Mills said, "and you can't regulate everything, but...
That's a mighty big but you got there.
Reminds you of yourself, sage?
Don't push me, Orange. I'll post a picture of myself sometime. Maybe while holding an umbrella.
You can't threaten me, you blogwhore. If you post an image of yourself, I'll post an image of NutraSweet in retaliation. A naked one. How do I have such a thing, you ask?
Don't ask.
I won't ask. And I retract my empty threat.
Stories like this just serve to underscore how important it is to protect yourself from SWAT teams by carrying an AK47 to the mall. Because when the SWAT team starts shooting, an umbrella ain't gonna save your ass no how.
What if it was a sweet bullet proof umbrella with rocket launcher capabilities and a Mary Poppins like ability to fly?
Boy in School: [Firemen come to pull Flick off pole] Holy cow, it's the fire department!
Ralphie: Oh no...
Boy in School: [policemen come] Wow, it's the cops!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085334/quotes
This article neglects to mention that under the Second Amendment, people have the right to carry a rifle in a mall or anywhere else, unless the owners of that private property request you cease doing so.
The police should only be called by the owners of the mall after the owners had made that request to the person to not carry a weapon, and been refused.
It may not be a crime, in and of itself, to carry a rifle around a mall. That doesn't mean the police shouldn't show up, any less than they should show up for a guy in a ski mask loitering around a stair well. Common sense.
Should the police also show up if someone starts exercising their First Amendment rights?
Nice job of false equivalence, equating someone asserting their right to self-defense with someone "loitering" and wearing a ski mask in conditions presumably too hot for a ski mask.
I don't see anything common sense about disarming the citizenry so officers of the state can abuse them without fear of retribution.
how could they tell the barrel was rifled
the barrel of the sword
that was actually an umbrella
:smugface:
What's "rifled" mean? What's a barrel?
We approve and stand behind the vigilant citizens and the police.
Goddammit, makers of that commercial: Samurai and Ninja are not the goddamn same.
It's comparing knights with assassins, you ignorant sluts.
knowing Japanese history
THAT'LL attract the ladies
I don't give a fuck about Japanese history or culture and even I knew that.
I don't, that is. There are several reasons I very rarely use joke handles.
We've all been there.
I am a Japanese woman... who appreciates a man who knows Japanese culture...
Right. One's a Honda and teh other is a Suzuki.
Sword ban first emasculates the British, not approaching our shores. No swords, no things that look like swords.
We'll come at you with umbrellas too.
Well, then, umbrellas must go, too!
What about a "pointed stick"?
(best Eric Idle voice)
Shut up.
(best John Cleese voice)
What about a banana
(best Graham Chapman voice)
Not even gun-shaped potatoes.
Shame on you! You missed a chance to make a haiku of it.
and if SWAT had shot the guy with the umbrella, they would've received a medal for facing down such perilous danger.
And then we'd have to argue outlandish hypothetical situations with Tulpa all day.
No shit.
+ infinity
While the outcome was silly, the citizens did the right thing by notifying the authorities of a potential threat. Admittedly there is egg on their face when the item in question turns out to be an umbrella, but if it HAD been a weapon, and no one was alerted, in the aftermath of the massacre everyone would have been wailing, "But why didn't anyone call the police? Why didn't anyone DO anything!"
Is this a spoof?
It is a spoof, but it actually ties into the real point: it's all political now. If a shooting does occur, everyone from the police chief to the local and state politicians know that everyone will attempt to politicize it immediately. And what happens with things that have become politicized? They become distorted. So now, all reactions to stuff like this will be distorted as different political actors try to gain political advantage.
Yay! Isn't it fun?
Obviously we need to subsidize mall security. Come to think of it, malls are dying out so maybe we need to subsidize the whole thing, maybe take them over.
Umm... no, the citizens did the wrong thing, by notifying the authorities of a nonexistent threat, because the citizens in question were too fucking retarded to notice that the "threat" wasn't one. I mean, if I call the authorities to shut down the mall because I thought someone's seeing eye dog was an escaped tiger, that's not doing the right thing, that's causing a lot of harm on account of being a fucking idiot.
Now, unless toting a rifle is verboten in the mall, the cops should have investigated before shutting it down; but it's uncommon enough that I could at least see why they would assume the worst, and it's not like they shot or even assaulted anyone. The primary responsibility for this idiocy lies with the morons that called the cops; if the mall wanted to sue the dumbfucks that shut their entire business down, that would also be understandable.
I thought someone's seeing eye dog was an escaped tiger, that's not doing the right thing, that's causing a lot of harm on account of being a fucking idiot.
Idiotic because you should have known that federal law mandates tiger repelling rocks in all American Shopping Malls. For The Children.
Moran.
Simpsons did it!
i was thinking that maybe mall security should have been called first...
then i remembered that it had been a long weekend w/o much sleep, so "Never mind"
Malls are dangerous. (Funny link. I don't know if it's supposed to be funny though.)
http://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/
C'mon guys, you all know umbrellas can be extremely dangerous. Remember that Sean Connery used one to bring down a Nazi fighter plane that one time.
Let my armies be the rocks and the trees and the birds in the sky
That's what your mother was telling me, Trebek.
You goosestepping moron!
You chose...poorly.
We named the dog "sage"!
great ending to the series.
Wasn't there... nah.
great ending to the series.
So you're either wholly ignoring Crystal Skull or have cleansed its existence from your memory.
I envy you.
What's a crystal skull?
I may have to watch that again soon. It's been a few years.
In other news, four seeing eye dogs were shot and killed during the mall lockdown.
At least wait til a shot is fired.
"......but if it HAD been a weapon......."
Yea and if your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle. I am so sick of the "but if it had been a weapon, terrorist, marijuana plant, 100,000 killed in Libya, mushroom cloud, default, economic meltdown" argument. Do you have any fucking idea what the odds of someone carrying a rifle into a mall on any given day? Yea but if I woulda picked the right lotto numbers, I woulda won. Cry baby liberal hack.
Citizens living in fear works for authority. It gives them value.
Again, why are people on this thread assuming that someone asserting their First Amendment right to self-defense is a threat to them and a reason to call the police?
Or is it that rifles are somehow scarier than pistols? Seems like if someone was intent on killing a slew of people, something conspicuous and non-concealable like a rifle would be the LAST choice of a sociopath.
Columbine, bell tower, etc. And some anniversary of Columbine just happened, so it's been in the news.
Not that I disagree with you otherwise, but there are reasons to think that a psychopath might take a rifle to the mall to shoot some people. And people who don't like guns generally don't know anything about guns (apparently not even enough to distinguish one from an umbrella..
According to this ALL of the weapons carried by the Columbine shooters were concealed weapons, including the rifle.
Seems like someone calmly and openly carrying a rifle where everyone can see it should be an indicator of non-malign intent. It's the ones trying to hide an arsenal of weapons that seem relatively more worrisome.
And even then, the way to make everyone safer would be to allow everyone to conceal carry so they can return fire.
Mr. Purdy and Mr. Huberty disagree with your contentions about psychos, long arms, and evil intent. If I see a guy carrying a rifle into a shopping mall, I'm going to assume he's up to no good, and call the cops myself. (Different case if the mall is Bass Pro Shops or Gander Mountain)
Sucks for our 2nd Amendment rights, but there you go. Yes, rifles are much scarier than pistols; he might actually hit me with a rifle.
actually there was a wackjob chick who walked into a mall in PA, dressed in camo right before Halloween...
and yes, she had a rifle...
if i remember correctly she did shoot and kill a few before someone grabbed her...
Wiki Springfield Mall
The US have become a paranoid society.
"Yea and if your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle."
Not necessarily.
Kiss, kiss!
YFQ
Pretty sure queers still have one of the usual genders, defined in teh usual way.
A) Please tell me you clicked on the CBS link. Here is the very first comment:
Christina Cara Dartez
That is so scary I hope they find him and nobody is hurt!
April 19, 2011 at 10:49 am
B) Any worthy geek item like this would have a real (fake) samurai sword sheathe, not some vinyl thing. That's what the guy gets for buying cheap.
C) If you clicked on the CBS link did you see this:
Burnt Marijuana Odor Not Enough To Suspect Criminal Activity
Reading the comments it's apparent that they actually interrupted teevee to break this story (the umbrella story).
"they THINK they saw something that LOOKED like a rifle "
Well on the upside, no people or pets were killed.
Completely unrelated and generally not relevant here:
Drudge is pimping a video of a beatdown at a fast food restaurant.
The horrific bit is that there are at least 4 or 5 men standing around who are perfectly capable of stopping the attack by two young women on another (possibly older) woman. They choose to mill about and film it on their cell phone instead of helping her. After she's beaten with enough force to cause brain injury as evidenced by seizures, the best they can offer for help is to warn the other two away as 'the police are coming'.
As she lays helpless and seizing on the ground, nobody even moves to help her (let alone earlier when they easily could have intervened before she was injured so seriously).
While it was hard to watch 2 people being so cruel to another, at least that might fall under the heading of losing your temper and doing something stupid and wrong.
The folks who just watched for several long minutes when they could have easily saved her at almost no personal risk and then didn't even try to comfort her were really hard to watch. I would hope that no sane human could ever be so callous. Apparently I hope in vain...
I couldn't see the video (firewalled at work, and my Droid won't pull it up for some reason). Do you happen to know where this happened?
The link just lists the name of the fast food restaurant, I don't see any geographic location.
The text of the Live-leaks article is pretty incendiary. It leaps to conclusions that are not fully supported by the video (nor are they refuted by the video). Absent further information that we weren't privy to, I'd say the tenor of the article is quite irresponsible as well.
Seems it was an 18 year old girl and a 14 year old girl assaulting a 22 year old in Baltimore. I guess it is a good thing that there were no police in the area, or the videographer might have been arrested.
I've been unable to view the video, but from the link you posted I think I see what the problem was. I gather that the girls were adminstering what they thought to be vigilante justice against a pervert spying on the ladies' room. The story at the link labels the victim as "transgender".
""They choose to mill about and film it on their cell phone instead of helping her. ""
Well, here in NY if you get involved breaking it up, the cops will take you to jail too. They belive in arresting everyone fighting and sorting it out later. Of course they could have called 911 (don't know if they didn't) but how many views can you get on Youtube with that?
Then maybe it's a good thing a few years ago that the rows of washing machines blocked my path to the old lady being beaten on the head by the young lady with the old lady's cane. At least I was able to get around them eventually to stop the old lady's head from bleeding as she lay on the floor. You're saying that had I been able to vault the machines or run around them in time to intervene, I'd've been in for a ride?
Then it may be just as well that a few years ago in the laundromat machines kept me from stopping the young lady from hitting the old lady on the head with her cane. I got around them only in time to stop the old lady's bleeding as she lay on the floor, but you're saying I'd've been in for a ride if I'd've been able to intervene?
(1) People are scum.
(2) If you don't hear sirens, you have time to slap a bitch and get away.
(3) I read an analysis of the video that said the victim was probably a tranny, and the bitches beat him/her down because he/she used the women's room.
Which makes it a hate crime, right?
Blacks can't be racist or bigoted. Right Eric? Eric?
I made the mistake of reading the comments on the liveleak site. Today is just a crappy day. To quote one of my favorite songwriters:
I know better. But it still surprises me every time.
Hey, at least they got some good video out of it. I wish I could have been a YouTube star...
All you need is a friend and a kitchen utensil. Two girls, one soup ladle?
To the defense of the guys making the video...
A) telling the perps to run because the cops were coming may have been the safest way to get them to leave, and thus stop the beating.
B) They probably know the video can be used as evidence against the perpetrators in court.
Yeah, both of those will do the bleeding and potentially brain-damaged woman lying on the floor a lot of good.
Makes me remember an incident that happened several years ago - I don't remember where, but there was some big traffic jam on a big bridge. Road rage causes this big dude to get out of his car and assault this young woman. She ended up out of her car and running from the guy. A whole crowd of people were there and watched as he started beating on her, tearing her clothes off, etc. Nobody did anything to help her or try to stop the guy. They just watched while this big dude chased her all over the bridge, beating on her. She was desperately trying to get away, with her clothes half torn off, and she finally jumped off the bridge, to her death, to get away from the creep.
It was all over the news for a couple days, prompting stories of the "syndrome" where people just stand by and watch and think that "someone will do something."
Which reminds me of the song that says, "I've never been tested, but I'd like to think that if I was, I would pass."
I've been tested. . . and I passed.
There has been more than one instance of my seeing a lone person getting beaten by 3, 4, or more. . . That kinda of thing pisses me off to no end - having been on the receiving end entirely too many times as a young white guy living in "subsidized" housing projects (25+ years later, they still remember "the crazy white guy from the projects). . . I've come to a sliding, screeching, sideways halt, jumped out of my car, and entered the fray - 4 on 2 is better odds than 4 on 1. . .
I may not have a duty to help. . . but I do have a moral obligation.
A person has no duty to help a person in distress. Their comment about the police and encouraging them to flee might make them accessories or aiders and abettors, but if they kept their fucking mouths shut, no crime. Also, if you help a person in distress and make their situation worse, you might be liable for negligence. Such is the common law.
The same thing happened in Roanoke VA in March.
http://articles.wdbj7.com/2011.....l_28689932
But hey we are talking about the same town that almost shutdown over the Mooninites invasion.
http://reason.com/blog/2007/01.....mooninites
Pirates are way cooler than ninjas.
Ninjas > Pirates
Any day of the week. A pirate would be dead before he even knew a ninja was in the same room as him.
Whoever called that in had better stay within sight of the Atlantic Ocean. They will see many actual guns if they come out west.
I would like to think anybody who called the police in Montana and said, "There's a man in a pickup truck at the grocery store with a GUN!" would just get laughed at by the 911 operator. But you never know.
I think this hints at some of the important takeaways here. First, the environment in Massachusetts is such that people apparently can't even tell a firearm from an umbrella. That, I think, is related to the fact that apparently your average Masshole is scared shitless of firearms in general.
This whole episode reinforces the idea that normalization has to be the strategy of gun rights advocates. Our goal should be a culture where (absent an actual visible threat) being frightened of a person with a visible weapon is considered as irrational as being frightened of a person with a different skin color or disgusted by a same-sex couple.
BLACK QUEERS WITH GUNS!!!
Just amend the selective service act to mandate firearm ownership and training to anyone physically qualified to serve.
Either they overcome their fear of guns, or we cut them out of the electorate. Either way is a win. Plus it will make it easier to attack local gun control through the supremacy clause.
I'd rather amend it with a flamethrower. But what you say might have the desired effect.
Whoever called that in had better stay within sight of the Atlantic Ocean. They will see many actual guns if they come out west.
Hey now, don't be too overly general there. Virginia, NC, SC, FL, all have pretty easy open and concealed carry laws and all are on the Atlantic Ocean. It's not so much an East Coast thing as it is a northeastern states thing. Yup. Yankees.
Ahem.
Except for the case linked to above that was in Va.
Sadly the American people are completely enslaved by the idea that every little worry they have can and must be "prevented".
It reminds me of a beginner karate class that I was one of the instructors for back in the '90s. We always encouraged questions but the kids--especially the boys--could never quite be satisfied. Whenever we answered a "what if" type question they always came back with another, each one slightly more outlandish than the last. We would eventually end up with questions like "what if he has a bazooka?" or "what if he's a robot?".
I used to think it was just a kid thing but it's the mentality of the whole fookin' country.
""I used to think it was just a kid thing but it's the mentality of the whole fookin' country.""
I'm guessing that the kids wanted to know how to kick ass against a bazooka or a robot. Unlike the folk that call the government to stand up for them. If I'm guessing correctly, I have more respect for the kids in your story than the adults in the article.
karate class that I was one of the instructors for back in the '90s,
Karate?! The Dane Cook of martial arts??
but common sense should tell you something that can easily be mistaken for a weapon shouldn't be sold?and people shouldn't buy it."
Common sense also tells me that useless pieces of shit like Lt. Mills are more dangerous than the worst terrorist.
Thank you. That was the money quote of the article for me.
It's like we're embarked on a deliberate effort to dumb down society to the point that it's safe and comfortable for even the drooling idiots and the hypochondriacs.
It's like we're embarked on a deliberate effort to dumb down society to the point that it's safe and comfortable for even the drooling idiots and the hypochondriacs.
What, you think we're not?
In response to the comment by "Invisible Finger"
These weren't my exact words to the Herald. Please read my comment below. If you disagree with what I actually said, that is fine. In this case I do hope that we can civilly agree to disagree with each other.
The government can have my umbrella that looks like a samurai sword when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
Anyone can just spot a police officer in a mall and then call the police station and say "I see a man in the mall with a gun. He's wearing a dark jacket, blue pants, and black boots. He was near the food court when I noticed him. I didn't get a closer look because I was too scared to stay there." All of which would be truthful.
I think you should do that.
In fact, I double dog dare you.
Make sure you video it on your cellie for added hilarity. I will enjoy watching it on the You Tubes.
While I see the hilarity in this, no way am I doing it unless I can use a pay phone. Or your cell phone. Can I borrow it?
Wait, I'm missing the part of the story where the guys with the umbrella was charged with "disturbing the peace" or somesuch...
You're slippin', cops, you're slippin.
This was the place Paul Blart: Mall Cop was filmed. Just throwing that out there.
Which almost makes me wish I'd seen the movie, just because I was at the mall's grand opening in 1968, when I was 10 and malls were still exotic. I still feel nostalgic about the hours wasted in Spencers Gifts there in my junior high years.
That's the best part of it all.
Did anyone catch the photo the terrifying umbrella the police have released? They REALLY made an effort to make sure it looked as "rifle-ly" as possible: They flattened out the end of the bag, squaring it off so it more resembles a butt of the stock. Then there's the part of the strap attached near the handle, which has been oh-so-unnaturally coaxed into a nice 90 degree stub - resembling, say a fore grip.
Or am I imagining things?
The pictures haven't been altered and the items haven't been manipulated. In the interest of being as open as possible we released the photos, which clearly show that the item was not a rifle.
This is Janet Napolitano's "See something, say something" program working as intended. Shut down businesses. Confusing the public. Wasting public funds.
Good job America.
As the officer who was quoted in this article I would like to point out that the headline is inaccurate. My chief was not the one who made these comments.
I would also add that the statement attributed to me is also inaccurate. When asked if I thought these novelty items should be banned I said no, it is a free country and we can't regulate everything. I also said that common sense should tell you that something that can be mistaken for a real weapon obviously shouldn't be carried in public.
I would also like to assure anyone who read this article that the initial report received from multiple witnesses was that the item being carried was a gun, more specifically a rifle. We did not know that it looked more like a samurai sword until police officers actually saw the item up close for themselves. Once we learned the item was not a gun the response was scaled down and business returned to normal.
Threats to shopping malls do have to be treated in a way that ensures that the public remains safe. Multiple witnesses with good intentions reported what they honestly thought was a serious threat and the response was to make sure innocent people at the mall would not get hurt.
April 19 and 20 are significant dates in the history of domestic terrorism in the United States and there was an attempted bombing at a Littleton, Colorado shopping mall the very next day. Thankfully, the devices in that case, which included a propane tank bomb, failed to detonate and nobody was hurt.
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04.....rado-mall/
We hope that people aren't discouraged from reporting suspicious activity or items to the police as a result of this incident at our mall. In the vast majority of cases we are able to check on the situation with little disruption to anyone and immediately rule out any threats.
Thank you,
Lieutenant Glen Mills
Burlington Police Department
Thanks. But you would've thought that somebody who thought it was a rifle would've just asked the guy, "What's that you're carrying?"
You make a good point Robert but I would not recommend going up to someone you believe is armed and possibly dangerous to ask them about their weapons.
It would be best to call the police and try to keep an eye on the person until the police arrive. We have had calls like this in the past that have been misunderstandings and they get resolved quickly with little disruption to anyone.
Unfortunately, the man left the area that he was initially reported to be in. More witnesses came forward to report their suspicions to the officers. A decision had to be made - hope that all of these independent witnesses were mistaken and hope that nothing might happen or take action that we knew would protect as many people as possible. We could have waited and hoped we didn't hear gunshots or taken action to stop something potentially bad from happening.
Again, I would like to assure people that we never want to overreact to any situation because there would be long term negative consequences if we did this.
The information and circumstances at the scene during each moment of that incident dictated what actions needed to be taken. Luckily, people can laugh and make jokes now and this is the worst consequence of our chosen course of action.
Had this been a real situation and we chose not to take action nobody would be laughing and the consequences would have been far worse than being the target of a few jokes.
Thank you,
Lieutenant Mills
I'm still having trouble with the logic of the situation. Although there were some people who were suspicious of what this guy was carrying, presumably there were many more people who looked at him and thought nothing of it. If they weren't afraid to be around him, why were these other people? Didn't those people notice that there were plenty of other people around who were not bothered by his presence? OK, so maybe they were scared to ask him directly; why didn't they ask some other people around why they were not afraid of him? It just seems bizarre that suspicion by a few overruled the lack of suspicion by many.
"...I would not recommend going up to someone you believe is armed and possibly dangerous to ask them about their weapons."
Why not? Are we a mice or are we men?
Common sense tells you (police, by definition, excepted) that we have far too many police, especially of the dumber than doorknob variety.
D-O-W-N-S-I-Z-E, ASAP!!!
The whole problem here is that these women didn't know the difference between a rifle and a sword. They may both be weapons, but one you can't buy in a mall and the other you can. If it was a real version of what it was supposed to look like, it wouldn't have been a legitimate threat. Every mall in the US has a crappy sword store.
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I just want to spare a thought for those poor mall janitors who had to clean up the pee puddles the timid, frightened little shoppers made when they thought they saw a gun.
Ah Boston, the same retards who panicked over a lite brite a few years ago.
Home of the brave indeed.
And I bet there's some collectible weapons store somewhere in that mall where you can buy an actual samurai sword.
Surprised the jackhole cops didn't shoot the poor bastard dead; or cause him to die by creating a lethal scenario, like they did to that retarded guy waving a fluorescent light bulb, a year or two ago. Because, you know, a trained man with a three foot fluorescent bulb could have really hurt those poor cops! So God only knows how many people could have DIED at the hands of this umbrella carrying man!!
They say publicly that they want people to report anything they see, just because that way when something does happen they won't get blamed for discouraging reports. I assure you that behind closed doors they're mocking the people who reported this.
My campus has a similar "see something, say something!" policy. Last fall I noticed a gigantic black briefcase (almost as big as a suitcase) sitting next to one of the doors to a building where people are thronging into and out of between class periods...one of which was going to end in about 10 minutes. As a good citizen I called campus police and reported it, but they gave me the frickin runaround for a few minutes, asking why I thought the bag was suspicious and if I'd look at it more closely (?!) and generally treating me like I was wasting their time. Eventually they concluded that I wouldn't stop pestering them until they sent someone to look at it.
The class period break came and went, and about a half hour later a cop showed up...first thing he did? Picked up the bag, set it on the nearby steps, and opened it, all in one fluid motion. Not smart.
Lieutenant Mills is contradicting himself...he is also verbally abusive (know from personal experience) and unprofessional. He should be investigated on the way he speaks to alleged victims..then forces them to do things they do not want to do. I wish there was somewhere to file a complaint and not be arrested for this...
the Down's Syndrome mongoloid
Quit being mean. To DS mongoloids.
I don't know where you're getting this from, but it's hilarious.
Dude, you have a lot of time on your hands to be posting this.
"She wasn't reasoning any more."
DRINK!
http://www.literotica.com/s/keilys-plant
TL;DR
Dude, may I suggest posting smaller segments, one per H&R thread? That makes it easier to read and continues the story over many threads and even days. Don't waste it all here.
No, please waste it all here, so I never have to see that shit again.