Farm Subsidies

Ending Farm Welfare As We Know It

Why can't we get rid of agricultural subsidies?

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Just about everything in Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan's budget blueprint has caught unshirted hell from critics: the tax rates, the Medicare vouchers, the safety-net cuts. The one thing that hasn't? The cuts to farm subsidies.

If past is prologue, that means the subsidies are probably safe.

Ryan wants to trim $3 billion a year from a $15 billion annual total in farm support programs. This is a modest goal—perhaps too modest. After all, farm subsidies are one thing about which all sides can agree: George Will disdains them—and so does Paul Krugman, who calls them "grotesque." The conservative Heritage Foundation terms farm subsidies "America's largest corporate welfare program." The liberal ThinkProgress dubs them "highly regressive." President Clinton tried to rein them in. So did President Bush—both the Elder and the Younger. "Bush Attacks Farm Subsidies," reported the St. Louis Post-Dispatch in 1990. Eighteen years later Reuters reported, "House Overrides Bush Veto of U.S. Farm Bill."

That was, of course, after the 1996 passage of a measure that, noted The Wall Street Journal the other day, was designed "to wean farmers … off years of subsidies." The direct payments at issue in the story "were supposed to be temporary" but "are now a cornerstone of American farm subsidies." In 2002 Congress rolled back some of the 1996 reforms and jacked up subsidies by 74 percent over the next decade. President Obama has been no more able to roll back the tide than King Canute. "Latest Plan to Cut Farm Subsidies in Trouble," reported The Boston Globe last year.

If left, right, and center stand united in their opposition to subsidies, then why do the programs thrive? The reasons are, as psychoanalysts say, overdetermined.

Like subsidies for public radio, farm subsidies are in large part welfare for the well-off. Ten percent of recipients collect 73 percent of all benefits, and many of them are corporations with major lobbying power. (Here in Virginia the top recipients are Pilgrim's Pride and Cargill.) The benefits also are widely dispersed, doling out money in 364 of the nation's 435 congressional districts.

Moreover: Iowa, which wields grossly disproportionate influence in presidential politics, ranks second in the nation (behind Texas) for aggregate farm subsidy payments. The Environmental Working Group, a liberal watchdog outfit, reports that Iowa reaped $21 billion in subsidies from 1995 to 2009. On a per-capita basis that comes to around $7,000—nearly eight times the $920 per capita that Texans received during the same period. Such numbers help explain how people such as Newt Gingrich can keep a straight face when they term efforts to reduce subsidies a nefarious plot by urban city slickers.

Then there is the phenomenon that Jonathan Rauch labeled demosclerosis: The benefits of farm subsidies accrue to a numerically small but highly motivated cohort, which will fight ferociously to safeguard the benefits. The costs of farm subsidies, however, are spread out across a huge number of people who have only a vague sense that they exist and no sense of what they cost on an individual level.

For example: The CBO estimates the direct price of subsidies for corn-based ethanol at $1.78 per gallon. But this does not take into account indirect costs, such as the effect on food prices—this year ethanol production will consume just about as much corn as American livestock will—or other outlays, such as the $200 million the USDA is spending to help gas stations install special ethanol-blending pumps. You might be able to learn from attentive reading that sugar price supports cost American consumers more than $1 billion a year at the checkout line. But how much of that did you, personally, pay? And what price tag does one affix to the Florida Everglades lost to cane-sugar farming as a result of inflated sugar prices?

Were this phenomenon limited to farming it would be bad enough, but obviously it is not. A profusion of programs confers special benefits on a plethora of interest groups. Hungarian-born economist/philosopher Anthony de Jasay says the resultant "churning" of benefits and costs produces a situation in which government makes "every industry support every other in various, more or less opaque ways." And though each party might enjoy its own programs it feels oppressed by the crush of all the others. Result: "Deeply felt claims mount for 'rolling back the state.' … It has in a sense become clever policy for the state to roll itself back." But—for the reasons mentioned above—it cannot.

For proof of that, just look at the budget debate. Federal expenditures rose from $2.9 trillion in 2008 to $3.8 trillion this year. Republican efforts to trim 1 percent from the current budget were described in apocalyptic terms, and Ryan's budget proposal—under which federal spending would grow 2.8 percent per year—is considered by many to be even worse. Those who fear its more controversial parts should console themselves with the knowledge that he will have a hard time rolling back even farm subsidies, a cause at which the past four presidents have failed.

A. Barton Hinkle is a columnist at the Richmond Times-Dispatch. This article originally appeared at the Richmond Times-Dispatch.

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  3. “Ending [American] Farm[ing] Welfare As We Know It”

    Because that is what it should be in the end: Ending the way Americans see farming, once and for all.

  4. No way am I the first commenter. I guess nobody else cares about this subject. A friend and I were just discussing this issue and how subsidies have unfortunately become a bennificial parasite. We’ve become so used to gearing our economics around them that if you cut just one you may kill the host and to strip them all it would definitely harm them all for a few years with some being completely eliminated which would be fine because you can’t live with just a little bit of cancer you have to cut it all.

    1. Gee, that’s interesting. I guess you can be intellectually gifted and still be morally bankrupt.

      1. For my information what part is morally bankrupt. Is it the part were some farmers would be completely eliminated if they can only survive with subsidies, maybe it’s time they found a new carrier then. People have been farming land for centuries and now we can’t without some help. Without subsidies we may actually go back to localized farming which many environmentalist are for which and I have no problem with either, a possible ally in the quest. We don’t really know what would happen but we do know we can’t sustain the status quoe(sp?) either. We all know it must be eliminated so to make this transition phase it out otherwise there may be shortages but only the first year after that locals would definately make up for much of the loss.

        1. Why would there be shortages?

          Farmers who aren’t efficient enough to compete without subsidies would sell the land to ones who could.

          Many of the subsidies are payments to farmers who, in return, reduce their output. They are paid to farm less. This lowers supply which raises prices.

          If subsidies were eliminated there would not be shortages, there would be surpluses.

          Prices would go down.

          Food would cost less money.

          Farm subsidies are taxes for the purpose of making food cost more.

          1. All points well taken.

          2. There might be some shortages because many corporate farms that are held only for the right-off value and the subsidies, because without that they are not profitable and they will shut them down hence farming will fall back to the small local farmer which can’t hurt. I agree that prices will come down on many products as well but with the initial chaos if subsidies are dropped all at once there will be transition difficulties but it would better in the long run

          3. YOU SAID:

            Why would there be shortages?

            Farmers who aren’t efficient enough to compete without subsidies would sell the land to ones who could.

            Many of the subsidies are payments to farmers who, in return, reduce their output. They are paid to farm less. This lowers supply which raises prices.

            >>OK, so you are from the city and don’t understand how land works. I will give you this example. If you have a piece of land on a slope and you farm it, rain water and snow melt will wash topsoil and fertilizer/pesticides into the stream below. This will cause pollution and we will have to pay the costs of that. If you pay the farmer (really the land owner) to put the sensitive part of that field into the Conservation Reserve Program or Soil Bank, we have to pay for that, but we save the costs of reclamation of the waterway that would otherwise be damaged and require expensive clean up. If the farmer in question is a tenant, then he/she gets no money from the CRP deal.

            YOU SAID: If subsidies were eliminated there would not be shortages, there would be surpluses.
            Prices would go down.
            Food would cost less money.

            >>OK, this is 2011, not 1880. We tried this from 1850 to 1920 and you know what we got? Years of boom that caused food prices to drop so low that farmers couldn’t recoup the cost of production, much less make a profit. Even though food production went through the sky, the farmers growing the food couldn’t make enough money to stay in business.

            Problem is that the good Lord had something to say and in in 1890, he decided that rain was an option in the Midwest and he didn’t want to exercise that option for about 10 years.

            By the time decent crops came around again, a lot more farmers had gone bust and those left found that even though the spike in prices seen in the post WWI years was welcome, it was not enough to replenish their cash reserves and they found themselves sliding toward serfdom where they could never really get ahead enough to get through the bad years.

            Along with the farmers went all rural businesses including professionals that could leave rural areas (and did so in droves). This exodus resulted in three bad consequences:

            1. A loss of community and local heritage, as well as a brain drain from rural to urban areas.
            2. A loss of infrastructure that now costs us even more to replace and rebuild. (Ever consider what our system of critical access rural hospitals cost every year and wonder whether simply keeping the families on their 160 acres would have been cheaper?)
            3. A loss of locally controlled capital making growing businesses in the area very difficult, if not impossible and creating a positive feedback loop back to loss of people.

            YOU SAID: Farm subsidies are taxes for the purpose of making food cost more.

            >>No. They were an attempt to blunt the cycle of serfdom that was capturing more and more of our farmers. They have been attached to land ownership and this has been the root of the problem. Own the land, get the subsidy. Rent the land, farm the land, send your kids to school there, go to the doctor there, bank there, but don’t get any subsidies.

            Farm subsidies need to change. The link to land ownership needs to morph into nothing more than CRP deals. The money we currently spend, could be used much more profitably to support rural America and our nation’s family farmers and ranchers if spent in other ways.

            1. Yup, nothing else has changed about farming since 1910 besides the subsidies.

              1. The USA used to be something like 98% farmers. Now it’s like 2%. Can we all agree that that turned out to be a good thing? So how do people in a free market get motivated to overcome inertia, overcome millenia of family history, and stop doing work for which they’re no longer necessary? The reduced demand for farmers causes the prices paid to farmers to fall until the supply of would-be farmers decreases to match.

                Confused subsidies won’t fix that. Maybe banning tractors would.

            2. The money we currently spend, could be used much more profitably to support rural America and our nation’s family farmers and ranchers if spent in other ways if it were left in the hands of the people who earned it before it was taken away from them by the central planners.

            3. BRM is brilliant. i must admit, it never occurred to me that the only thing saving ADM from serfdom was subsidies. It is clear, from his enlightened words, that the key to lower prices is even more subsidies. Logically, then if we give farmers enough subsidies, food will be free. And of course there would be no serfs running around, all down-trodden and stuff, unable to ever get ahead enough to make it through the bad years. i tell you, it’s like the scales have fallen from my eyes.

          4. And if there are shortages, prices will go up, encouraging more people to farm.

            And since most subsidies take the form of paying people not to farm, I don’t think that cutting those people off would do much to reduce production in the first year. The farmers who are actually growing stuff will still be ready to plant when the time comes.

  5. Oh, and by the way, it might be easier to get rid of this obomination if the first primaries weren’t in the farm belt. Of course, ADM, Cargill, et al would fight tooth and nail to keep them, and donate to Senators (insert names here) and Representatives (insert names here) to ensure this largesse never goes away.

    1. It did expose McCain as an opportunistic hack when he proclaimed his new found love for government sponsored booze powered cars in Iowa.

      So there’s that.

  6. Sallie James (so hot) on Ag Subsidies… and to reitterate: Sallie James is so, so, so Hot.

    1. No, her mouth is too big for her face.

      I’d say she’s still cute but I shall concede no more.

      1. Her mouth is just the right size for… never mind. I wouldn’t want you to feel inadequate.

      2. Re: deified,

        No, her mouth is too big for her face.

        Actually, that would come as an advantage if she ever deals with me… hee hee hee.

      3. I agree. She is way below my standards. Just look at those sharp knees.

        1. That’s a photoshop of Steven Tyler’s mouth onto her face, right?

          If not, ouch…

    2. So this guy’s argument is that he needs subsidies because he doesn’t want to diversify, I think.

    3. Mark Hanes and the crying farmer are just assholes. There is NEVER a GOOD reason for subsidies, but they will prevail.

  7. The costs of farm subsidies, however, are spread out across a huge number of people who have only a vague sense that they exist and no sense of what they cost on an individual level.

    And especially if government protectionist schemes that stifle importation of cheaper food makes price comparisons almost impossible, thus keeping the unsuspecting public, well, unsuspecting.

  8. But, but, but if subsidies were removed prices would go down!

    Then nobody would be able to afford to farm!

    All the farmers would go out of business!

    Cut the subsidies and there will be no food!

    No food I tell you, no food at all!

    If government didn’t subsidize farmers we’d all staaaaaaarve!

  9. Why can’t we get rid of agricultural subsidies?

    I – O – W – A
    C – A – U – C – U – S – E – S

  10. Iowa Caucuses.

    1. Eliminate.

    2. If they want to have a single issue caucus, then the rest of the country can choose to ignore their pitiful caucus.

      1. Unfortunately, Iowa remains a gatekeeper for the primaries.

        It would take a hell of a lot of guts for a Presidential wannabee to say “I’m gonna write off Iowa because I am against farm subsidies.” In the media circus that is the nomination process, that would immediately result in the candidate being cast as either “not serious” or “not a front-runner.”

        1. Unless that candidate happened to be the media darling – or the party elite. McCain pulled a pitiful 13 percent in Iowa last time around.

          1. But McCain did not blow off Iowa and the farm subsidies, either.

        2. Correct.
          I would like to see some other non-agricultural state move it’s primary forward. I don’t think anyone is going to get Iowa to push it’s own back. If either of the parties had brains they would change it up every election cycle to make the biggest swing state come first.

          Iowa coming first has perverse effects besides the farm subsidies. It’s a socially conservative place, which may be one reason why even Democrats have to feign religiosity and blather on about “ordinary folks”.

          It would be interesting to see what the effect on presendential politics would be if California or New York were first in line.

  11. Of course farmes will whine “but we can’t compete against subsidized foriegn farmers”.

    They are right – we should penalize foriegn farm products with tariffs that match as closely as possible the amount they were subsidized.

    1. we should penalize the consumers of foriegn farm products with tariffs…

      When a foreign government punishes it’s taxpayers by subsidizing a product, we should slap tariffs on it make that product more expensive for American consumers.
      This way American consumers will have less money left over to purchase other things.
      Great idea!

    2. You don’t even have to do that.

      To subsidize their own farmers, other countries are taxing their other industries, making them less efficient.

      1. If you want to have farms and an agricultural industry, you have to have fair competition. Waiting for France and Canada to go broke isn’t a viable plan.

        How would you make it fair? In other words, how would you keep American farms in business without subsidies and without protection from foreign subsidized farm products?

        1. Read Ricardo. Pay particular attention to the Law of Comparative Advantage.

        2. Why do “american farms” need to stay in business? This is the same stupid crap as ‘Energy independence’.

          If someone wants to sell me, and everyone else, some commodity below cost, subsidizing it on the backs of their taxpayers, it’s stupid of me to say “nah, I’m not gonna do that. I’m going to keep paying more so this other guy can keep doing it and double penalizing me (with subsidies *and* higher prices).

          With “energy independence”, it’s the same thing but with a more scarce resource: Why should we use up *our* oil and other energy when we can use up someone else’s oil for cheaper. An embargo is no threat, because oil comes from everywhere. Plus, when everyone else runs out of it, think of how valuable all that oil we saved will be, even if everyone transitions to other forms of energy.

          1. Because we need to eat?

        3. If you want to have farms and an agricultural industry, you have to have fair competition. Waiting for France and Canada to go broke isn’t a viable plan.
          Problem is, that’s what the pro-farm-welfare statis f#cks up here say all the time, too: “But the U.S. and Europe subsidize their farmers. Do you want to have no food producers in Canada? Is that fair?”
          It’s one big circle jerk.

    3. Anything to fuck the American people…right?

    4. If you don’t like being a farmer or are too stupid…quit!

    5. Legally, that would be permitted under WTO rules.

      But theoretically, if another country chooses to screw it’s own taxpayers over so they can sell us below cost produce, we ought to simply take advantage of it.

      Most crops grow on a yearly cycle and it’s easy enough for farmers to grow a different product if they ever start to raise prices again.

  12. In the media circus that is the nomination process, that would immediately result in the candidate being cast as either “not serious” or “not a front-runner.”

    As we all know, wanting the government to restrict its activities to those properly authorized by the Constitution (it’s just a goddam piece of paper, after all) marks one as completely unserious, if not un-American.

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    1. Let me guess: When you were a kid at summer camp, the other kid’s stuffed you down the outhouse hole.

      1. Strangely enough, they didn’t. Of course, I never went to summer camp, which is probably the only explanation why it didn’t happen.

  14. The house Republicans need to go full gorilla and pass a version of the budget based on Rand Paul’s proposal. Instead of a weak cut of 1% proposed by Ryan, go to conference with a huge set of cuts that can be bargained away to achieve real reductions. That way you’d end up with a few real reforms and at least some net cut. With Ryan’s budget as a starter you’ll be lucky to end up with 0.4% in cuts after conference.

  15. My uncle used to own 120 acres in Missouri and he took advantage of the farm subsidies all the time. His wasn’t a working farm, but the county ag guy would come out every year and certify that my uncles 40 cleared acres weren’t being used for soybeans anymore (the previous owner actually did farm unlike my uncle). Same ag guy would come out in the fall and spring and test the soil; then a week or so later a truck full of fertilizer would show up and spread the stuff on the land that wasn’t being used to farm. Free. And all my uncle had to do was not grow soybeans on the land. Didn’t prevent him from cutting hay off the fields two or three times a year and selling it, though. Farm subsidies are a huge scam and should be eliminated.

  16. Gotta love that attempt at a smear. “Sallie works fer CATO and they’s backed by CORPORASHUNS!” I thought he was going to name check the Koches – I suspect he would have if he could’ve remembered their name.

    Oh, and good thing no corporations get farm subsidies, or else farmer Bill might have his poor innocence violated.

  17. The problem with talking about farm subsidies is that too many people think you are talking about agriculture. When’s the last time you heard anybody complain about tomato subsidies or eggplant subsidies or green bean subsidies or watermelon subsidies? You don’t have to subsidize the production of things people are willing to pay for, you only have to subsidize the production of things people don’t want. To the extent that total net farm income from government subsidies is actually larger than the total net farm income from sales of subsidized commodity farm products (look it up if you don’t believe me) it is pretty clear that subsidized farmers are not in the business of growing crops, they are in the business of collecting government checks. ADM and Cargill are not agribusiness corporations, they are welfare clients.

  18. Actually, it has caught hell– from the Agricultural Committee on both sides. They don’t have to worry about persuading everybody else, they just have to remind their local members who elects them.

  19. So why can’t we finally end farm welfare as we know it?

    Because you have to win Iowa in the primaries, or at least come in a close second, to become president.

    1. No. You way overestimate the Iowa primary. Politicians lie to win primaries or change their mind all the time. The question is why Obama would change his mind on, e.g. war, but not farm subsidies.

      The Iowa primary is a red herring. There are more fundamental political reasons, such as people who are for them being much stronger for them than people against, and a surprising amount of non farmers favoring them.

      Farm Subsidies, sadly, have broad political appeal. It isn’t the primaries.

      1. The fact that Iowa gets $7,000 per capita in subsidies is pretty telling, don’t you think?

        Farmers are not otherwise a politically well organized or powerful group. And I don’t see farm subsidies having all that much political appeal to non-farmers. Sure it’s a matter of concentrated benefits and dispersed costs, but the primary magnifies that effect enormousely. You have the concentrated benefits going to a small group of very special voters.

        Otherwise, how do explain the disparity in payments between Texas and Iowa?

        1. My assessment of the impact of the Iowa caucuses is down-thread, but in summary, I agree with John Thacker. Whatever the impact, however, it is an error to think that levels of subsidies are determined during the primary season. That’s hashed out much later.

          The difference in per-capita subsidies has more to do with what is being grown in Iowa and Texas (corn is highly subsidized) and the proportion of the states’ populations with land that could get subsidies (much higher in Iowa).

          Careful of falling for the stereotype of farmers as bib-overalled hicks running around with their thumbs stuck in their armpits and hayseeed in their teeth. As a group they are shrewd businessmen–they understand their markets, and the effects that nature and government have on them. They are better organized politically than you probably think. Give some thought to the Farm Bureaus–those aren’t government entities–and the fact that there are national organization for the growers of most crops (National Corn Growers Assn, American Soybean Assn, etc.)

        2. Farmers are not otherwise a politically well organized or powerful group.

          Bwa-ha-ha! You underestimate them at your peril.

          And unfortunately, you’re wrong, farm subsidies have surprising political appeal to non-farmers. Read Bryan Caplan’s book The Myth of the Rational Voter for link to surveys. Support for farm subsidies is just as high in non-farming states as in farming states. People in polls support subsidies to small farms over big farms, though.

          If the primary determined policies as President, we’d be out of Afghanistan and Iraq, and Gitmo would be closed.

          Politicians say things during primaries all the time that they abandon in office. Exactly how would it hurt Obama now to come out against farm subsidies that help Iowa? What, he wouldn’t be re-nominated in 2012?

  20. And it is just too depressing to think about the fact that the subtitle of this thread isn’t “How do we get rid of agricultural subsidies?” but “Why can’t we get rid of agricultural subsidies?” – and that it is not a rhetorical question.

  21. “And what price tag does one affix to the Florida Everglades lost to cane-sugar farming as a result of inflated sugar prices?”
    A less known victim of the sugar subsidies is the St. Lucie River in Stuart, FL. Folks used to eat oysters out of that river. Good luck even finding one today.
    It’s time that libertarians stop apologizing for being anti-environmentalists because they don’t support the EPA. A pragmatic environmentalist would trade shutting down the EPA for shutting down farm subsidies.

  22. End subsidies. Period. Farm subsidies are just a start.

  23. If you propose getting rid of farm subsidies, then on the one side there will be a hundred million people who might save a few hundred bucks each. They will kinda sorta agree with you, just not enough for your opponent’s voters to become your voters, or for your voters to become your campaign contributors or volunteers.

    On the other side, there will be a hundred thousand people who might lose hundreds of thousands of dollars each. They will strongly disagree with you, with a white-hot passion that will not sleep until you have had your name turned to mud, your chances at elected office destroyed, your family stoned to death and your corpses desecrated.

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  25. The Environmental Working Group, a liberal watchdog outfit, reports that Iowa reaped $21 billion in subsidies from 1995 to 2009. On a per-capita basis that comes to around $7,000?nearly eight times the $920 per capita that Texans received during the same period.

    This couldn’t have anything to do with the role the Iowa caucasus plays in presidential primary politics, could it?

    1. I doubt it. You overestimate the importance of the caucuses. The winner of the Iowa caucuses has been the nominee only about half the time–and even when the winner is the nominee, causality is far from proven. Ford in 1976, Dole in 1996, Carter in 1980, Mondale in 1984, and Gore in 2000 I believe would have been nominated even had they skipped the Iowa caucuses (probably Bush in 2000 as well).

      Look instead at who is on the Ag committees–in the Senate you will see Harkin and Grassley often, very senior senators–and at who is running the DoA.

      1. Ok, well, I’m sure congressional politics plays a big role as well. Congress ultimately is the one that had to do the appropriations.

        But then how come you never get an agricultural subsidies opponent at the head of the Ag committees? Is there some rule that requires them to come from farming states? Why can’t the congressional leadership get other people on the committees?

        1. I suspect there is little interest among those that are not from farm states. I can’t claim to be any expert on the inside mechanisms of committee appointments, but I suspect the party leadership uses assignments to the Ag committee as a favor to farm state congresscritters–or even as their due.

        2. But then how come you never get an agricultural subsidies opponent at the head of the Ag committees?

          Because just like voters, politicians who are against ag subsidies are never as passionate as the ones who are for it.

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    After you have selected your wedding party attire hang it inside bag it arrives in and don’t display it to everybody. Give company a thing to start looking forward to once they see you for your initial time walking along the aisle. And unless it is really unavoidable, don’t allow your potential husband see your attire whatsoever prior to the wedding. They say it’s poor luck as well as if that’s merely a superstition, it definitely does spoil his surprise!

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