Drug War

A Pot of Money to Piss On


Last fall Marc Emery, Canada's self-proclaimed "Prince of Pot," reached a plea deal with the U.S. Justice Department, agreeing to serve five years in federal prison for the crime of selling marijuana seeds to Americans via the Internet. But the Drug War Chronicle reports that Emery is still hoping to avoid deportation, which Canadian Justice Minister Rob Nicholson can block if he concludes that the punishment Emery faces is grossly disproportionate or that his prosecution was politically motivated. There is strong evidence on both counts. While Canada treats selling cannabis seeds as a minor offense punishable (if at all) by modest fines, the U.S. government depicted Emery's Vancouver-based business as part of a criminal conspiracy that could have sent him to prison for life. And after Emery was busted in 2005, then-DEA Administrator Karen Tandy made it clear that he was targeted for his political activism as much as his seed sales, declaring:

Today's arrest of Mark [sic] Scott Emery, publisher of Cannabis Culture magazine and the founder of a marijuana legalization group, is a significant blow not only to the marijuana trafficking trade in the U.S. and Canada, but also to the marijuana legalization movement. His marijuana trade and propagandist marijuana magazine have generated nearly $5 million a year in profits that bolstered his trafficking efforts, but those have gone up in smoke today. Hundreds of thousands of dollars of Emery's illicit profits are known to have been channeled to marijuana legalization groups active in the United States and Canada. Drug legalization lobbyists now have one less pot of money to rely on.

In light of the huge gap between Canadian and U.S. policy regarding cannabis seeds, and given the evidence that the U.S. government is seeking to punish Emery for his outspoken criticism of marijuana prohibition, there seems to be a persuasive case for preventing his extradition. Canada's Extradition Act says the justice minister "shall refuse to surrender a person when that surrender could involve unjust or undue or oppressive actions by the country to which he is being extradited." Nicholson is supposed to make a decision by May 10, but he could ask for an extension.

Emery's cause has attracted support in Canada's parliament. "Many dedicated individuals have collected approximately 12,000 petitions reflecting a strong belief that Mr. Emery or any Canadian should not face harsh punishment in the U.S. for selling cannabis seeds on the Internet when it is not worthy of prosecution in Canada," M.P. Libby Davies, a New Democrat who represents Vancouver East, said last month. Liberal M.P. Ujjal Dosanjh, former attorney general of British Columbia, said "it appears to me that we have assisted a foreign government arresting a man for doing something that we wouldn't arrest him for doing in Canada."

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  1. If the maple suckers started to understand free speech, I might be tempted to move there.

    And Canada, please tell the United States government to go fuck itself.

    1. Amen. Have some Balls Canukistan.

      Or else we WILL crush you eventually.

  2. If you wish to tell the Canadian Ministry of Justice something to that effect, here is the place to do it.

    I’d suggest more polite language, though.

    1. Yes. Something polite. We Canadians are polite, you know. And bilingual. It’s better if it’s in a language other than English.

      Fuque Te Et Ipsum Caballum sounds about right.

      1. C’est ne justice pas!

        1. If you wanted to say is, “That is not justice”, you need to say “Ce n’est pas la justice!”

          Every verb has a gender and must have the appropriate article.

          1. The french LOVE to drop the articles in common speech. But the “pas” is still in the wrong place in BP’s version.

            “C’est ne pas justice!” would fly in conversation. He’ll you could leave off the “C’est” even.

  3. Tandy’s statement is as chilling as it is goofy.

    “propagandist marijuana magazine…those have gone up in smoke today…one less pot of money to rely on.”

    Being jailed by a punning moron adds insult to injury.

  4. As an American, I’m appalled that my country’s leadership is seeking to punish this man. He broke no laws in America; his acts took place on the soil of Canada. We have no legal standing on which to seek his extradition. I hope that the Canadian leadership does the right thing and denies this extradition.

  5. That big ole spliff in the picture’s just begging for a caption contest…

    1. Led Zeppelin!

    2. The lack of alt-text is disturbing.

    3. …dreadlocked rasta…

  6. Hundreds of thousands of dollars of Emery’s illicit profits are known to have been channeled to marijuana legalization groups active in the United States and Canada. Drug legalization lobbyists now have one less pot of money to rely on.

    So, he was prosecuted for selling seeds, or donating money? Was Tommy Chong prosecuted for selling bongs, or the movies he made?

    Vindictive bastards. Times like these, I wish I believed in Hell.

    Cunt, cunt, cunt, cunt.“When I came through the door, I made money the No. 1 priority,” she said. The amount of money the DEA seized each year has more than quadrupled, to $1.9 billion last year, making the DEA the rare federal agency that nearly pays for itself,” she joked

    1. …and now Tandy is SVP of Public Affairs and Communications for Motorola which has seen it’s NAV drop from $19 to $7 during her time there. I’m shocked SHOCKED that she’s not enjoying the same amount of success in the private sector as she did in the public.

  7. Prohibition is a sickening horror and the ocean of incompetence, corruption and human wreckage it has left in its wake is almost endless.

    Prohibition has decimated generations and criminalized millions for a behavior which is entwined in human existence, and for what other purpose than to uphold the defunct and corrupt thinking of a minority of misguided, self-righteous Neo-Puritans and degenerate demagogues who wish nothing but unadulterated destruction on the rest of us.

    Based on the unalterable proviso that drug use is essentially an unstoppable and ongoing human behavior which has been with us since the dawn of time, any serious reading on the subject of past attempts at any form of drug prohibition would point most normal thinking people in the direction of sensible regulation.

    By its very nature, prohibition cannot fail but create a vast increase in criminal activity, and rather than preventing society from descending into anarchy, it actually fosters an anarchic business model – the international Drug Trade. Any decisions concerning quality, quantity, distribution and availability are then left in the hands of unregulated, anonymous, ruthless drug dealers, who are interested only in the huge profits involved.

    Many of us have now, finally, wised up to the fact that the best avenue towards realistically dealing with drug use and addiction is through proper regulation which is what we already do with alcohol & tobacco, clearly two of our most dangerous mood altering substances. But for those of you whose ignorant and irrational minds traverse a fantasy plane of existence, you will no doubt remain sorely upset with any type of solution that does not seem to lead to the absurd and unattainable utopia of a drug free society.

    There is an irrefutable connection between drug prohibition and the crime, corruption, disease and death it causes. If you are not capable of understanding this connection then maybe you’re using something far stronger than the rest of us. Anybody ‘halfway bright’, and who’s not psychologically challenged, should be capable of understanding that it is not simply the demand for drugs that creates the mayhem, it is our refusal to allow legal businesses to meet that demand.

    No amount of money, police powers, weaponry, diminution of rights and liberties, wishful thinking or pseudo-science will make our streets safer, only an end to prohibition can do that. How much longer are you willing to foolishly risk your own survival by continuing to ignore the obvious, historically confirmed solution?

    If you still support the kool aid mass suicide cult of prohibition, and erroneously believe that you can win a war without logic and practical solutions, then prepare yourself for even more death, corruption, terrorism, sickness, imprisonment, unemployment, foreclosed homes, and the complete loss of the rule of law and the Bill of Rights.

    “A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.”
    Abraham Lincoln

    The only thing prohibition successfully does is prohibit regulation & taxation while turning even our schools and prisons into black markets for drugs. Regulation would mean the opposite!

    1. EXACTLY. Very well put!

  8. “Today’s arrest of Mark [sic] Scott Emery, publisher of Cannabis Culture magazine and the founder of a marijuana legalization group, is a significant blow not only to the marijuana trafficking trade in the U.S. and Canada, but also to the marijuana legalization movement. His marijuana trade and propagandist marijuana magazine…” – DEA Administrator Karen Tandy

    Who is the propagandist when it comes to marijuana, Marc Emery or the DEA?

    Fuck you Karen Tandy, the DEA, and your propaganda machine.

    1. Mary Beth Buchanan is a lifelong public servant…

      I don’t think ‘public servant’ has a positive connotation anymore.

      1. I didn’t realize, not only was she the one that prosecuted Tommy Chong, but also the Wizzinator guy. It’s OK though, her campaign manager has just been indicted. Funny, he was indicted by the federal prosecutor that took her place for shit he did when Buchanan was prosecutor of that district.

  9. I would like to see the Kenyan government start extraditing and prosecuting American citizens for witchcraft. Just to see how the State Dept would respond.

    1. Hillary won’t extradite herself.

      1. That’s a “w,” not a “b.”

          – Former Speaker Gingrich.

          1. Ding ding ding! Wittiest Reason snark of the day.

    2. Couldn’t be done, because witchcraft isn’t a crime in the U.S.

      See, while leniency for seed sales might be Canada’s practice, it’s not actually Canada’s law. If such sales were not punishable by more than a year in prison under Canadian law, the U.S.-Canada extradition treaty itself would declare him ineligible for extradition.

      If the Canadian Parliament really wanted this guy’s actions to go unpunished, they could simply amend Canadian law to reflect that, and he’d be ineligible for extradition. Clearly, the Canadian Parliament actually doesn’t have any problem with U.S. courts and prosecutors enforcing Canadian laws that Canada’s courts and prosecutors refuse to enforce.

    1. Sometimes that’s all a man can say to express his disbelief in the utter stupidity of the actions/words of others.

  10. 5 years is just a slap on the rest. The money he made selling drugs doesn’t change the fact that he earned it off of the misery of others. He is no differnt than a pimp and should spend his life in jail.

    1. He should be crushed under a stack of round stones and the remains fed to the dogs, and then the dogs put in jail for life.

    2. Misery? Juanita, I don’t know if you’ve ever lit up a spliff, but the results aren’t generally anything approaching misery.

      1. People steal to buy these drugs.

        1. Stealing from Canadians isn’t a crime, it’s a hobby.

          1. Especially in Ottawa.

        2. Then prosecute the thieves. If someone steals to buy a TV, do we outlaw televisions?

          1. If someone steals to buy healthcare, do we outlaw health care?

            Why do we feed Trollita? She’s a class 3 troll at best.

        3. If people stole to buy anything of value society wouldn’t be functioning as well as it is, now would it? People steal to buy these drugs isn’t a point or an argument, its a vague anecdote. People die ergo life isn’t worth living, obviously.

        4. Juanita! No one is stealing to buy pot seeds!! Except, maybe, some 15 year old from his/her older brother/sister…
          Don’t comment on things you know nothing about personally, please. You make those of us who do very annoyed.

      2. …unless you bought the ditchweed…

    3. Hello again Juanita – my crusty, little flower. Your ability to draw the gullible into pointless debate is one to be admired – for it’s effectiveness, as well as for the length of time you have been able to get away with it. You are a troll among trolls – I have always wondered which regulars contribute to you.

    4. Pimps shouldn’t spend time in jail just for managing hookers either, you cum guzzling gutter slut.

      That felt good.

      1. Reason is the magical place where a 4chan affect doesn’t invalidate an argument.

  11. Karen Tandy=making poopy pants look like a Mensan…and that’s from an American.

  12. This is what American Exceptionalism leads to: Amerika WeltPolizei.

    Fuck you, American Exceptionalism assholes.

    1. American was (I’m not sure if “is” still applies) exceptional because of the values of rationality, liberty and individualism that were behind its founding. America is not a magical land that is exceptional because God loves it or because its waves of grain are goldener or its mountains purpler and majestier. Russia has just the same vastness and natural resources America has, and look what a mess it is.

      The values that made America exceptional can be weakened or destroyed.

      1. first would should be “America” not “American”

      2. It’s sad that a guy from NZ understands this undeniable fact better than most Americans.

        1. New Zealand is even wussier than Canada

          1. Hold it there Tom Mix! There’s a NEW Zealand?

          2. and like Canada, we were incredibly non-wussy in both world wars, but then let it slide big-time afterwards.

            1. Come to mommy, and she’ll make all those bad things go away, Davey. For a price.

          3. Sinjay: That’s a great speech. Too bad New Zealanders are a bunch of cocky a-holes descended from criminals and retarded monkeys.

            Jemaine: No you’re thinking of Australians.

            Bret: Yeah, that’s Australians.

        2. We have the same constitutional inheritance as you guys, actually, although (like most of the ex-British Empire) we started to give up on it earlier than you, in the post-WWII era. Frankly, though (and having lived in both countries), at this stage I’d say that NZ (for all its flaws) is freer — economically and socially — than the US now.

          1. I would, too. You all had a nice wave of libertarian-ish reforms a couple of decades ago that really helped things along. I understand there’s been some backsliding, but at least you got a lot of the reforms through.

            1. And Sauron was defeated in NZ too.

              1. And the Hobbits got baked on Sarumon’s weed, too.

          2. Agreed. Of the English-speaking nations, I consider New Zealand to be the most free, and the people the best.

            Among the NON-English speaking nations, the southern half of South America is quite nice. Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina – I’m guessing Chile is nice, too, judging from the Chileans I’ve met.

      3. “God loves it or because its waves of grain are goldener”

        They’re AMBER, dumass. AMBER.

        1. Whatever.

          I’m not even American.

          1. USA! USA! USA! D’OH!

          2. I think that was a spoof, Dave.

            A post calling someone stupid (for an obviously pointless reason) that misspells “dumbass”, doesn’t recognize what “Kiwi” refers to, and has a link to raw sewage is not meant to be taken seriously.

            1. The force is strong in this one.

  13. Ujjal’s not so bad, for a pol- he probably sucked less than any other BC Premier that I can remember.

    1. But hes in favor of continuing with the insane “Human Rights” Tribunals in canuckistan

    2. That’s because he was only in office about 6 months.

      His prime achievement is taking his party (the TreNDyP) from a majority government to 2 seats in the Provincial legislature.

  14. I don’t think US will actually put him in jail since they are starting to legalize it themselves.

    1. Shut up. The banners will take a statement like that as proof that you do lose your mind if you smoke pot.

  15. What I think is most shocking is that an employee of a federal law enforcement agency thinks it’s within her province not just to enforce the current law, but to prevent the law from being changed. That is just so far over the line I don’t know where to begin.

    1. Once the State grows to a certain size, it becomes its own biggest lobbyist.

  16. Photo Poll: who thinks they could smoke the whole thing themself?

    1. I could, but I’m a Kentuckian so I have an unfair advantage due to genetics and training.

      1. That. Plus centuries of inbreeding.

      2. I’ve smoked in Marc Emery’s stuff in his shop in BC, and, as a fellow Kentuckian, there is no fucking way in hell one can smoke that thing to the head. No fucking way. You wouldn’t die, but you might want to.

        There is such a thing as being too high.

    2. Pish. That looks like what we used to use to light our joints.

    3. I bet he used a sheet from Deuteronomy to roll that bad boy.

    4. *raises hand*

  17. Somebody has found a new use for the New York Times.

  18. I’m shocked that our DOJ is still pursuing this guy, what with Obama saying he wouldn’t…

    1. Hey, those US Attorneys who aren’t investigating voter intimidation have to do something.

  19. “it appears to me that we have assisted a foreign government arresting a man for doing something that we wouldn’t arrest him for doing in Canada.”


  20. The creepily unstable tone of DEA Administrator’s public statement on Emery’s arrest is revealing. She actually employs puns. This is so wrong, & yet somehow appropriate. It’s as if she doesn’t know whether to think he’s wreaked such evil that she was obligated to destroy him, or that does it’s all a joke. What a ghoul.

  21. Update:

    “Marc Goes to Jail on Monday Morning, May 10th…but we hope to have him out on bail again the same day. Marc’s bail conditions require that he turn himself in at 9am on May 10th, or when the Justice Minister makes a decision about the extradition. The prosecutor claims that the Justice Minister has all day on the 10th to make a decision, so Marc can get out on bail after 1pm our time (4pm Ottawa) unless he’s ordered extradited.

    The Justice Minister must apply for more time to make the decision if he doesn’t do it by the 10th. We would seek to have Marc released on bail for the same amount of time the Minister receives as an extension (likely 30 to 90 days).

    I think we have to have the bail paperwork done and signed by our four sureties in different cities before they court will release Marc, but it seems that’s not likely to be done by 4pm if the bail hearing happens after 1pm… That means Marc would be sent to North Fraser pretrial for the night and we’d have to get him out the next morning, hopefully.

    Apparently it’s possible that he might be able to get out on Monday without us having to finish all the paperwork first… but I don’t know how that would work out… so I guess we’ll just wait and see how it unfolds on Monday. Follow updates from me on Facebook.

    Please contact the Canadian Justice Minister with this message:

    “Please do NOT extradite Marc Emery to the United States. If he broke the law in Canada, he should be charged in Canada, not a foreign country. Don’t extradite Marc Emery, or the Conservative Party will be punished in the next election!”

    (613) 995-1547
    (905) 353-9590
    (905) 871-9991

    source: http://cannabisculture.com/v2/node/23528

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