Drug Policy

A Prescription Should Be Required for Sudafed Because It Doesn't Cure the Common Cold

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State and federal restrictions on the sale of cold and allergy medications containing pseudoephedrine, aimed at curtailing production of methamphetamine, have not had a noticeable impact on illegal consumption of the drug, which has been declining since the late 1990s. But by forcing cold and allergy sufferers to ask pharmacists for products they used to get off the shelf, making them sign logs so police can keep track of how much pseudoephedrine they are buying, and arresting them now and then when they accidentally exceed the government's arbitrary limit, these laws have at least wiped out all those nasty mom-and-pop labs, replacing them with professional, efficient cartels. Well, not quite. The Wall Street Journal reports that "a nationwide resurgence in illegal methamphetamine labs" has caused state and federal legislators to re-examine the effectiveness of the Sudafed crackdown. They plan to do what prohibitionists always do in the face of failure: double down—in this case by requiring prescriptions for a cheap, safe, effective decongestant that not long ago was readily available in convenience stores across the land. That requirement will force doctors to police Americans' pseudoephedrine consumption, encouraging them to treat every patient with a stuffy nose as a potential crank kingpin.

Jim Beilsmith, eastern director of the Missouri Narcotic Officers Association, thinks this is a swell idea. Bravely opposing "the pharmaceutical companies that make more than a billion dollars a year from cold relief medicines containing pseudoephedrine," Beilsmith offers several reasons why a prescription requirement is bound to succeed where quantity limits failed:

1) "Pseudoephedrine is the one ingredient that you must have no matter what method is used to produce [methamphetamine]."

2) "This is a fight that we can win."

3) "The cost associated with fighting the ongoing meth problem in money and human damage is far higher than any that can be associated with this legislation."

The first claim is simply not true, as I noted several years ago in Reason. In any case, the Mexican traffickers who supply the vast majority of the illicit meth consumed by Americans do not buy their pseudoephedrine at the drugstore, and they won't be begging their doctors for prescriptions either. These are strong reasons to doubt the second claim. The third claim is literally true, because the total costs of enforcing the laws restricting access to methamphetamine do outweigh the cost of this particular mandate. But I don't think that's what Beilsmith meant. Probably he meant that the harm caused by methamphetamine use outweighs the harm caused by requiring a prescription for pseudoephedrine, which would be relevant only if his first two claims were true (and if you accept his unspoken utilitarian and paternalistic moral premises). If, despite all these difficulties, Beilsmith still thinks this policy is worth a shot, perhaps that's because he assigns zero weight to the costs it imposes on consumers:  

The only thing pseudoephedrine does is keep your nose from running for in most cases about four hours that is all. It has no curative properties as most of the other ingredients in cold relief medicines.

And what's the value of that? As Beilsmith himself inadvertently points out, it's "more than a billion dollars a year."

More on pseudoephedrine restrictions here.

[Thanks to Mark Lambert for the tip.]

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  1. Pseudoephedrine does not “cure a runny nose”. It causes clogged sinuses to run freely, thereby stopping the stuffed head feeling and throat soreness. This guy is a fucking idiot and a liar.

  2. My previous attempt to post failed.

    Pseudephedrine does not “cure a runny nose”. It is a decongestant and reduces inflammation in the sinuses. An antihistamine is more likely to cure a runny nose.

    This guy is an asshole.

  3. This guy is an asshole idiot.

    Fixed.

    This needs to be said as often as possible: It’s no longer too early to start shooting them.

    1. I don’t know why you fixed it. It’s better to shoot assholes (who are that way by choice) than idiots (who are just too stupid to know better).

  4. if I have no real
    Sudafed this cold season
    the nation in flames

    1. If this were an election year, you would have just raised our terror alert level by one color.

      Ever wonder what they mean by “chatter”?

  5. Pseudephedrine is a fantastic medication if you are suffering congestion, the alternatives simply do not compare, and yet rarely will a cold last long enough for it to be worth a trip to the doctor to get it. This really steams me.

    1. Steam can work to decongest you too. Just don’t increase your carbon footprint when making it. Use a renewable, carbon neutral fuel, like coal.

    2. Presumably what they expect is for people to get a prescription for it when they see their doctor for something else routine, and to fill the prescription then. The idea is that the doctor, better than the pharmacist, “knows them” and knows they’re trustworthy, and is in effect vouching for them. Apparently it’s being enacted in New Zealand.

      1. Doctors knowing and vouching for people has worked out well for those treating pain and their patients.

    3. whatever they replaced it with is worthless. a glass of water has the same effect as the new junk that they put on the shelves.

    4. Hah. The one they took away before pseudoepehdrine worked even better. Phenylpropanolomine (PPA) was an even better decongestant.

      I fucking hate these bastards and their war on cold relief.

      1. And actually, real live methamphetamine is an even better decongestant. Once they’ve made it impossible to get the normal stuff at the store, I might as well just go ahead and use the true quill. I mean, once it’s all illegal, who cares?

        1. And at $5 a box + $50 co-pay + 6 hours waiting, I think the meth might even be cheaper than the lower amplitude options.

  6. What a valuable medical opinion from Jim Beilsmith.

    Recreational drugs will never be legal in my lifetime.

    1. They are in my books. But the main characters do not do them voluntarily.

  7. Count me among the lucky few for whom the new psuedo-pseudoephedrine works for clearing up my sinus headaches.

    And when they take that away too, it’s going to be motherfucking civil war.

    1. Glad to hear that phenylephrine works for you, but my sinuses don’t get a DAMN bit of relief from that stuff. On the other hand, it still jacks up my blood pressure as much as pseudoephedrine– how lovely. Fucking miracle drug, that stuff.

      I seriously hope the Canadians will be kind enough to keep shipping this stuff to the states, because I may have to start ordering from them. 24 tablets of 120 milligrams a piece? Sign me up.

      The pharmacies I’ve seen will ship up to 4 boxes a month to US addresses. That’s just under 12 grams of psuedoephedrine per month, or about 138 grams per year.

    2. What’s not often noted is that usually ephedrine comes under the same restrictions. If they put ephedrine on prescription status, that’s practically the same as taking it off the market. Doctors will say if you have asthma and need a prescription bronchodilator, you’re getting albuterol, not ephedrine or ephedrine-theophylline.

  8. “This is a fight that we can win.”

    As evidenced by our success stamping out reefer, junk, coke, acid, barbituates, ecstacy, PCP, psilocybin …

  9. Blackjack players,

    They plan to do what prohibitionists always do in the face of failure: double down?in this case by requiring prescriptions for a cheap, safe, effective decongestant that not long ago was readily available in convenience stores across the land.

    Is this proper usage of “double down”? Saw a discussion about it here recently and forgot the details.

    1. I would say no since proper statistical play of Blackjack states that you only double down when the odds are heavily in your favor of winning. Doubling down on a 16 whent he dealer has an 8 is about as stupid as what this guy is saying. (double down situations: you have :9; dealer has 4,5,6::you have 10; dealer has 3,4,5,6::you have 11; dealer has 2,3,4,5,6)

      Don’t play with scared money.

      1. CB,

        Then this might be used properly. They are “doubling down” when they shouldn’t in order to increase their chance of winning, which is the wrong thing to do and a wrongheaded way of looking at it.

        1. Correct. I was reffering to the proper use of double down not the proper use of the term double down. This is an example of what i said about the double down on 16 when the dealer shows and 8.

        2. So Beilsmith is likely pretty bad at blackjack? A Bond-esque plot is forming….

        3. “…in order to increase their chance of winning”

          Technically, the term is being used incorrectly, but in my opinion appropriately, as an -actual- double-down doesn’t increase your chance of winning at all, and neither will this legislation.

    2. I would think it is more like a “double-or-nothing” bet than doubling-down. In this case the first attempt (bet) hasn’t worked so rather than accept that they lost and give up they increase their effort (double their bet) in an attempt to salvage a win.

      1. Except if this doesn’t work they won’t give up. It’s more like double or double.

      2. I’ve noticed the recent trend to refer to doubling down instead of doubling up. Funny how gambling jargon catches on whether it’s appropriate or not. One rarely hears about someone’s or something’s “record” as one might’ve 35+ years ago; now it’s always “track record”.

  10. I accidentally threw out some (real) Sudafed with the grocery bags (picked up that night by the garbage dudes) once, and my wife suggested going back to buy some more the next day. I told her no way. Even if she went in my place, she’d be presenting an ID with the same address. She thought I was nuts, until I later told her about the old lady who is getting prosecuted for doing something similar.

    Anyway, as a result, I, someone who has never used illegal drugs, has never produced, sold, distributed, etc. the same, cowers in terror with a runny nose before the all-mighty and pointless War on Drugs.

    1. Should have gotten some stree bum to score some for you. Like buying beer when you are 12.

      1. My addiction to a non-runny nose might force me to such measures some day. Friggin’ amazing, the stupid.

    2. I’m not sure how much you bought, but you probably would have been okay getting more. I believe the usual restriction is that you can’t buy more than 15 (average-sized Claritin D) pills in one day, or more than 35 pills in a 30 day period. A few manufacturers may still produce 15 count packages, but most seem to have dropped to 10. I need to take the stuff pretty much daily for months at a time, and I maintain a spreadsheet to keep track of my running total.

      And I loathe the legislative vermin who made that necessary.

  11. great way to lower medical costs — require a doctor visit for the common cold to get an Rx for something that used to be available OTC.
    I was livid the first time I was told I couldn’t stock up for cold season — all I wanted was two bottles of adult strength and 2 of kids’. Pity the poor 16 year old clerk who waited on me that day.

    1. True dat.

    2. I worked as a store clerk and it was always a pleasure to get to explain it to livid customers. When you frame it as “in order for our politicians to give the impression that they are combating the bogeyman du jour, they have decided to limit the amount of cough medicine you can buy”, the customers don’t mind as much. The key was explaining that the government wanted to treat them like a small child who cannot act in his/her own best interests. I generally appended a suggestion they write their congressperson. An important part of bringing about the revolution is reminding people frequently that the government does not work for them.

      Either that or I’d decide I was not paid enough to care and enter it as “Misc Merch Taxable”, then smoke a joint behind the dumpster with the assistant store manager.

  12. The “new” alternate form of psuedafed works pretty well for me. My doctor tells me that it’s an old drug, and it’s just as easy to make meth from the alternate as the original.

  13. Wasn’t psuedo a prescription drug originally until the Feds decided it was safe to sell otc?

    1. Yep, went OTC in ’82 or ’83. I used to use Dristan prior to Sudafed going OTC.

      Apparently the 15-odd years of OTC Sudafed not being a meth problem is lost on the dumbfucks who call themselves police.

  14. psuedophedrine is the only thing that relieves my sinus headaches. I used to be able to take Tylenol-Sinus, but they changed the formula to something ineffective to keep it over the counter. For the longest time I couldn’t understand why Tylenol-Sinus wasn’t working anymore. Now I have to buy Sudafed and combine with Tylenol or aspirin to get relief.

    1. Try smack, PR. Its probably easier to get, and I bet it works even better.

  15. Almost no drugs actually cure the disease that they treat. They generally treat the symptoms until the germs die off or are killed by your immune system. The only exception I can think of are anti-biotics, which prevetn bacteria from reproducing.

    1. Not in my dogs vulva they don’t

      1. they’re meant to be ingested orally, not rubbed on your junk and inserted into the infected area.

    2. Correct. Most drugs are either palliative, replacement or prophylactic.

      Antibiotics are considered curative (for now), as well as Antifungals, Anithelmenthics (and other Anti-parasitics), and arguably, Anti-neoplastics.

      1. Perhaps antivirals?

        1. Depends.

          Agents such as Tamiflu (which has lessened in efficacy) do reduce the ability of the flu virus to reproduce, provided it is introduced before the virus proliferates. Usually the seasonal flu S/S will manifest well after the virus has infected the body and it is more palliative at that point.

          Other antivirals are more so palliative management, such as anti retroviral “cocktails” (HAART) for patients that are HIV postive. They still test postive for the virus and can infect others, but reduces the rate at which the virus will proliferate in the body.

          Same thing for Valtrex for those with genital herpes.

    3. Cures don’t make money. What’s the good if the patient doesn’t come back for more.

      Now, for runny noses i guess that’s fine, since we won’t conquer The Cold till we have nanobot augmented immune systems.

      But the herpes meds really bother me. Like, i feel a line was crossed in the swindling game there. Yes, the patients ARE getting some relief for their money, but is it ethical to enable the behavior that spreads the disease WITHOUT eliminating the possibility of transmission?

      Atleast with The Cold, your partner can see it and say “HEY, you aint kissin ME with those germs!”

      Good luck knowing whether or not someone has herpes if they’re on the meds. I’m sure they’re all boyscouts when it comes to informing potential partners though, so no worries.

      I say, if this national healthcare boondoggle happens, can we at least get a national database of people diagnosed with herpes? (Not serious, but hey, put that idea around and lets see how many people are still up for national healthcare)

  16. i love decongestants. now i will have to have large quantities of meth to take my mind off having a cold

  17. How long until they completely ban Sudafed? That, for me, will be a deal breaker. I’ll move to whatever country still allows its sale. North Korea, Somalia, Sudan…I’d rather live in one of those hell holes with Sudafed than here without.

    1. Moving to countries with illegal decongestants will also be illegal.

      1. Yeah, how long until travel abroad is banned for the average citizen? Otherwise how will America prevent the upcoming braindrain when all the decent people move to Spain.

        1. They won’t ban travel abroad. It would be more in tune with the modern spirit for them to allow it but to make Americans subject to American laws even when outside the country. That gives them much more arbitrary power than just banning travel would.

    2. They won’t need to ban it. At some point, because of the hassle of acquiring it, it isn’t going to be cost effective to produce a product with psuedophedrine in it.

      As it stands now, many products have replaced it as an active ingredient, and if you are going to need a script for it, companies aren’t going to want sell products with psuedophedrine.

      1. That’s an awfully specious assumption about demand, CT. The remaining 10% might be willing to pay more. Besides, the stuff’s made overseas anyway, where they have actual freedom and shit.

  18. But by forcing cold and allergy sufferers to ask pharmacists for products they used to get off the shelf, making them sign logs so police can keep track of how much pseudoephedrine they are buying, and arresting them now and then when they accidentally exceed the government’s arbitrary limit,

    Hey, I have an idea! Let’s medicalize Marijuana!!! I mean, what could go wrong?!!

    1. Yeah yeah, we get it already.

      MMJ is/was not the route to legalization that many thought it would be.

      It HAS opened up the topic for more discussion than we’ve ever had in this country before, which can’t be a bad thing.

  19. This is fucked up on so many levels.

  20. One can only wonder how many innocent people will suffer through investigations and even imprisonment just from the inevitable errors inherent in a giant system that attempts to track every sale of a drug used at one time or the other by practically everyone.

    Thousands of innocent people are going to have their lives ruined over the years in a vain attempt to protect meth heads from their own stupidity.

    1. You know what Lenin said about omelettes….

  21. Charles Whitman had a headache he could get no relief from.

  22. Pseudephedrine Insulin does not “cure a runny nose” diabetes.

    Pseudephedrine Dilantin does not “cure a runny nose” epilepsy.

    Pseudephedrine Zocor does not “cure a runny nose” hear attacks.

    You get the idea, the guy is a total idiot when it comes to his understanding of medicine.

    1. I meant heart

    2. He’s a cop, so I don’t expect him to have any understanding of medicine. I do expect people listening to him to figure out that he’s a cop and stop taking his medical opinion seriously.

      Honestly, how long would these morons keep bloviating if everyone would simply stop paying attention to them?

      1. I agree, I am a computer programmer and not a doctor, so I wouldn’t expect anyone to take my medical opinions as anything else. Why do cops apparently get taken seriously on such medical topics as cold relief, pain control, etc.

        1. I blame Dragnet.

          1. Quincy M.E. also has a hand in this. Remember the club drug episode (I think Courtney Love was in that one IIRC)?

            Quincy was an M.D., but his specialty was forensic/anatomic pathology, not primary care. Not to mention his moralizing every fucking episode, going over the top in the last two seasons.

      2. Who would be foolish enough to not pay attention to a crazy man with a gun and the authority to use it?

    3. Ban Insulin! There’s one way to “fix” the diabetes epidemic.

  23. Why don’t they just make methamphetamine illegal and nip this thing in the bud.

    1. Because they’re still workin’ on cigarettes and trans-fats…

  24. Why don’t they just make methamphetamine illegal and nip this thing in the bud.

    Zeb wins.

    Everybody else loses. Advil Cold & Sinus is the only thing keeping me alive this cold season, and it’s not even November. Probably just a matter of time until my door gets kicked in. Is it still paranoia if they really are after you?

    1. Yeah, its still paranoia, but its a Healthy Paranoia.

  25. I’m going to set up an elaborate chemistry lab in my shack, and it just might burn down every building on my property. Then I’m going to sell the meth to dealers in bulk who will then sell it to junkies. But I’m going to make sure that I don’t even think of stealing the Sudafed. What do you think I am, a criminal?

    1. Lamar,

      Three years ago this month a backpack “meth lab” was found in a trailer park in Los Alamos, NM. Along with a bunch of LANL secret documents.

    2. The point being, you don’t need all that much room for that sort of thing.

      1. Sooo, revise my initial post to include possibly blowing up my car with a back pack meth lab.

  26. “The only thing pseudoephedrine does is keep your nose from running for in most cases about four hours that is all. It has no curative properties as most of the other ingredients in cold relief medicines.”

    I have allergies and Sudafed is often the difference between a productive day and a useless one. Nothing fires up my inner libertarian more than being forced to provide everything virtually up to and including a blood sample and the name of my first-born child to obtain access to an OTC drug.

    I thought the fake stuff had been proved to be a placebo.

    1. Psuedafed PE == phenylephrine HCL

      Works better for me. Ironic that I never would have known that if the congress critters could keep their hands off OTC drugs.

      1. Well, i mean if pseudoephedrine was really that bad, i suppose you could’ev asked your doctor about alternatives. Or even just hit google or wikipedia.

        But hey, who needs research and discussion when we’ve got Congress Critters to do our thinking for us.

  27. OT

    Halloween costume ideas from Feministing. No, I’m not kidding.

    everybodyever said:

    Recently I came up with what I think is an awesome costume idea, but soon I realized I have feminist issues with it. I would love any other feminists’ takes on it.

    The costume: Rosemary from Rosemary’s Baby. It would involve a thrifted frumpy nightgown, a large knife, some make-up to make me look sickly, a necklace with a teaball attached to it, my own hair (which resembles Mia Farrow’s in that movie) and — best of all — a homemade devil baby as I imagine one would look. This would probably require a baby doll, some fake fingernails/claws, horns and spray paint.

    It only occurred to me a few days later that this could be a really bad idea because of the fact that this month’s most infamous rapist made the movie. Make no mistake, I like the movie, despite its troubling treatment of marital rape and, well, Satan rape. And I also think Roman Polanski is a disaster of a human being who should spend decades in prison.

    So would a costume based on his movie appear implicit rape apologism? Maybe more practically, do y’all think that if I dress as Rosemary, I’ll have to fend off questions about Polanski all night? (My friends are hardly as feminist or politically engaged as y’all, but who knows…)

    1. SF, before you go back and participate in that forum, maybe google up The Onion article (I think it is audio) of the sexy nurse who is having trouble coming up with a Halloween costume 🙂

      Always here to help.

      1. Helloooooooooooo Nurse!

    2. No sweetie, you won’t have to fend of questions about Polanski all night. But you will have to worry about fending off questions about Polanski all night. Have fun!

  28. Off topic, but this is one of the most interesting things I have read in a while. Since the Reason staff never takes my hat tips anymore, I will just post it here.

    http://www.wired.com/magazine/…..ence/all/1

    1. I’d like Jenny McCarthy a lot better if she’d stick to what she’s good at — taking off her clothes — and leave the medical advice to those with some intelligence and training.

      1. And those with intelligence leave the porn to well endowed dumb blonds such as McCarthy.

  29. semi on topic – I would heartily recommend “Breaking Bad”.

    Second, in, oh, I’d say three years or so, we’re going to be helping the Honduran (or maybe Guatemalan, Mexican, etc.) government fight a war against ephedra.

    In a related note, I went to a Chinese herbal site not too long ago, and noticed that they had a place for ma huang, which was now greyed out. In big red letters, they’d written “Not For Sale”. I tried to find it again, but couldn’t.

  30. We lose herd immunity if people start skipping shots for no good reason.

    1. Also a small percentage of vacines fail. If everyone gets them, it doesn’t matter that a few people are not immune due to vaccine failure since failures are rare, just a few out of every thousand. But if a bunch of jackasses refuse to get vacinated, they create a danger not only to themselves but to the few unlucky people whose vacinations failed. RFK is the poster boy of idiot sons.

    2. The comments to that article are a Disneyland of scentific ignorance.

    3. Herd immunity. Isn’t that what cops use when they beat the crap out of somebody?

      1. That’s what they should call sovereign immunity, now that you mention it.

    4. someone was reading slate today…

      it was a good article

      1. ACtually instapundit.

  31. I believe that the drug warrior jackasses going to add ephedra to the list of naughty plants anytime now, and we’ll start paying off countries to pretend to try to destroy them.

    Also, I would recommend “Breaking Bad” to anyone who hasn’t seen it. At least the first season is excellent.

  32. Re: the Wired article, John, i’m honestly not sure it’s a bad thing that dumb and gullible people are subjecting themselves and their children to Darwinian forces once more. Maybe the ability to think rationally will become a survival trait again.

    1. Until the assholes manage to get effective vacines banned. That is what some of the more crazy ones want to do. Yeah, they would never do that. Just like no one figured they would try to ban fatty foods after they were done with tobacco.

      1. Vaccines should not be banned. However, it has been hotly debated that we over-disinfect, sanitize, and quarantine children from pathogens, antigens, and allergens, thus stunting their to manufacture actively acquired immunity.

        Opinions in allergy and immunological medicine is pretty much evenly divided as to how much exposure should be encouraged, especially in the pediatric population.

        1. They are basically little germ bags anyway. They are probably better off being exposed to a lot.

  33. Of course, some vaccines do present a risk to certain individuals. Given that the CDC and others are more concerned with our collective health than that of individuals, it’s not entirely insane to wonder whether a given vaccine is the best option for you. And whether the risks, if any, are being properly presented.

    The autism business is a crock of shit, it goes without saying.

    1. The main risk is to patient is one who has an HX of allergy to eggs and egg products (specifically avian egg albumin).

      Vaccination is contra-indicated those patients, as well as immuno-compromised patients and those with auto-immune disorders.

      1. That’s my understanding, more or less, for the swine flu vaccine. My point was that the CDC absolutely might downplay some risks in order to forestall any mass avoidance of a vaccine. Which is one reason having the government certify things instead of a private, independent body is so stupid.

        1. h1n1 vaccine is little bit different, as it is designed for that specific strain. What makes it diffferent (and all the hubbub and paranoia) is the amount of adjuvants present in the vaccine. Adjuvants, in this context, are added to essentially “trick” the immune system (artificially acquired passive immunity) to be overly sentive to the offending pathogen/antigen. This is also done in the seasonal flu vaccine, depending on what strains the CDC deems most likely to present in the population and the virulence of strains.

  34. Until the assholes manage to get effective vacines banned.

    Well, yeah. I’m just hoping they die of measles or something first.

  35. I will say that the last time i had the flu was about two weeks after the last time i got a flu shot.

    1. The flu shot only covers you for the two or three strains the CDC deems most deadly that year. There are lots of other less harmful though still nasty strains you can still get.

      1. Actually John, this year’s seasonal flu shot was five strains.

  36. There are lots of other less harmful though still nasty strains you can still get.

    Like H1N1.

  37. except it is also used OTC for ASTHMA and allergies! this is total bullshit. people will have to start using ephedra tinctures and extracts. this country sucks so much. a lot of the pseudoephedrine in OTC meds are combined with other medication and they are never used to make meth.

  38. If only people would focus their paranoia about government a little more rationally. . . .

  39. also, why isn’t the industry fighting this?

  40. Probably fear of the ban hammer.

  41. The article John cites talks about the reasons so many people fall for all kinds of pseudo-scientific bullshit (like believing autism is caused by vaccines or can be cured with vitamin D) but fails to mention the most obvious: because, by-and-large, people are fucking stupid.

    1. Yes, but some of the people named in the article as those pushing the autism/innoculation myth are pillars of the Democratic Party and hence considered some of the smartest people in the country. Or, at least, that’s what a fawning media is always telling us.

      People like Sens John Kerry and Chris Dodd as well as RFK Jr who was in the running IIANM for either SecInt or EPA Admin.

      Mind you, the autism/innoculation thig is bi- or even multi-partisan with plenty of Republicans and Greens and most especially the tin-foil hat caucus of the LP.

      1. The vaccine/mercury/ethylmercury deal is purely speculative.

        However it is known that heavy metals, even minute amounts, does have an effect on the mental development in children. Which is why lead was removed from housepaints.

        I suspect Lonewacko ate a few paint chips from the windowsill when he was a child.

        More on the possible link and chelation of mercury

        1. Seriously, forget mercury in vaccines. Lets start worrying about all the mandated mercury from our New Compact Fluorescent Overlords.

          1. Ooooo, how about a study correlating the increase in autism with the mass adoption of non-compact fluorescents last generation?

            Or we could just start with a study that looks at the over-diagnosing of autism….

    2. RFK is the poster boy for idiot sons everywhere.

      1. Yes, one of the more encouraging signs I see in the American scene today is the fact that no more Kennedys are likely to have a national political presence.

  42. Thousands of innocent people are going to have their lives ruined over the years in a vain attempt to protect meth heads from their own stupidity.

    I never thought of it that way. Is my face red!

  43. Let’s follow the morons for a bit shall we?

    Jim cannot catch these criminals and that’s Jim’s job. Civil Liberties keep Jim from breaking down everybody’s door and searching their homes for Pseudoephedrine.

    Meantime the government wants free healthcare for all so that people stop going to the emergency room, well not so much people as illegal aliens who have no healthcare at all but know that they cannot be turned away.

    Now Jim comes along and decides that people with a cold should now fill up the emergency rooms to get a prescription for pseudoephedrine because then Jim doesn’t have to worry about doing his job and can now sit with the other liberal doorknobs smelling his own farts all day long.

    “This is a fight we can win.” – Huh, you have lost all of the drug fights. Most anybody can find illegal drugs within a few miles of their homes if they live in a moderately sized city.

    Hey Jim, quit your job, you suck at it. Go find a job you can actually attain some positive results with and leave freedom to those of us that enjoy living within its graces.

  44. No biggy. Nothing combats the symptoms of the common cold better than weed, which is freely available on an open and unregulated market.

    Or so I’ve heard.

    1. As long as it remains illegal, it is open and unregulated.

      1. When people say “let’s legalize, tax, and regulate it”, I always cringe at the last two items on the agenda.

  45. Is my face red!

    As red as your politics.

  46. I ain’t worried, yo.

  47. How long before the Feds are jailing doctors for over prescribing Sudafed like they are doing with the pain specialists.

  48. When we get single payer like certain numbnuts want, Officer Beilsmith and your doctor will work for the same organization, and even if you are able to get Sudafed by prescription, it will be a 60 day wait to see the doctor for a 30 day scrip.

  49. “The only thing pseudoephedrine does is keep your nose from running for in most cases about four hours that is all. It has no curative properties as most of the other ingredients in cold relief medicines.”

    True but for some of us it helps prevents the sinus & ear infections to which we are so prone thereby reducing dr visits & antibiotic usage.

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  51. Making people get a prescription for pseudoephedrine is ridiculous. That’s just what I need, to have my office be even BUSIER in the winter!

  52. Seriously, if you don’t know chemistry don’t comment on it mr Jim Beilsmith.
    There is more than one way to skin a cat so to speak. pseudoephedrine is not even REMOTLY the only way to make Meth. It just happens to be the most convienant. Once you completely lock it down they will simply revert to another method of manufacture.
    Stop being idiots and wasting my damn money.

  53. If they do enact this, I will create a website for pseudoephedrine prescriptions at a charge of $2 (for prescriptions lasting a year). It will work for Tennessee residents and those in states that will accept a prescription from a Tennessee physician.

  54. Instead of wallowing around here with the usual suspects, I wrote a letter directly to Mr. Beilsmith and the MNOA. Make your voices heard outside this echo chamber, eh?

  55. Beilsmith is an evil man. In the afterlife of my fantasy, he will live for eternity with a completely clogged nose and a wicked sinus headache with no possibility of relief from his suffering.

    Okay, I’ll settle for a prolonged painful death with no physician willing to prescribe effective pain medication–just long enough for Beilsmith to reflect properly on the suffering he and his ilk have caused to many innocent people.

  56. Can I just rant here about the stupid “children shouldn’t take cold medicine” thing, which I am convinced is part of the whole get-rid-of-pseudoephedrine campaign?

    #1, although studies have shown that medicines like guaifenesin and dextromethorphan don’t do much to relieve symptoms in children, NO STUDY has shown this for pseudoephedrine, and yet every report lumped all of them together as “cold medicines that don’t work.” I am telling you, it’s part of the vast conspiracy.

    #2, have you ever tried to breastfeed a baby who has a terrible head cold and can’t breathe through her nose? It’s awful. Bleeding awful, both for you and the baby. An effective decongestant can mean the difference between a sick baby who can’t easily take in her only source of fluid and nutrition, and a baby who can do it easily. Believe me, saline spray does NOT do the trick.

    (disclaimer: nursing mothers should be cautious taking decongestants because of anecdotal evidence that in some women it compromises milk supply)

  57. Law Enforcement Against Prohibtion volunteers needed
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  58. For over 4 years in Oregon, pseudoephedrine has only been available by prescription. This means 80$ + 2 hours at doctor and 30$ + 30 min at pharmacy. A five dollar amount of pseudoephedrine now costs a lot of money. Just one more regulation that makes healthcare just that much more expensive. Who cares, there are already thousands of these genius rules that helps keep all of us safe. And oregon still has a meth problem…priceless.

  59. Well, who’s the dumb f**knut behind this one? We need to get the old hard-line idiots out of office. They just want to keep blowing money hand-over-fist to protect their and their buddy’s jobs. Meanwhile it does absolutely nothing except make our lives harder. Every reading this, raise your hand: How many drug dealers stopped selling pot 40 years ago because the government morons said it was bad? 10%, 30%, all of them? The answer is none of them because they didn’t care WHAT the government said! What happened when the government cut out “good” prescription drugs so that people couldn’t get high off them? Chemists created “designer” drugs like GHB, Special K, and others so that people could continue getting the same level of “high”. After all these of the boneheaded DEA has drug use slowed down, much less stopped? HELL NO!!! It going full steam ahead just like it always has. Dumbasses in the 1960’s thought, “Well, as soon as hippies grow up and stop smoking pot, that will be the end of it!” Hey folks, guess what? It perpetuated with every single generation who grew up after the hippies! Drug use isn’t going anywhere! Except of course making Mexican and South American drug lords, gang bangers, Wall Street blowhards and a bunch of others richer! Now they want to make over-the-counter cold medicine harder for the normal people to get (fucking idiots), do you think it will work toward the drug war? DO YOU?!? When are we going to vote these numbskulls out?!?

  60. Stop punishing law abiding citizens in order to prevent others from breaking the law. Sudafed is a life saver for me when I am not feeling well. It is the only thing that works. I am fine with the current laws that make accessing large quantities more difficult, but to force people see a doctor to get an innocuous drug is the height of stupidity, talk about causing health care cost to sky rocket.
    We all need to oppose this…go here to contact your legislators:
    http://www.senate.mo.gov/llookup/leg_lookup.aspx
    Let them know that you are sick of your rights being stolen to protect others from their own stupidity, and let them know you VOTE also.

  61. I am NOT a meth head. I have other DOC’s. I also have very bad sinus trouble… not anything to do with anything anyone wants to sniff. I have no trouble giving ID to any pharmacy.. My problem is that the pharmacies do not stay open long enough for me to get medication that will allow me to BREATHE! WE ALL HAVE OUR PROBLEMS! Please don’t attempt to stop me from obtaining the only medication that will allow me to breathe. Sincerely,

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