Tonight on The Independents: Anthony Weiner, the Federal Reserve, Super Bowl Commercials, the Debt Ceiling, Joe Namath’s Fur, TSA Confessionals, Heroin Overdoses, North Korea Sneak-Peak, Plus Aftershow!

Weiner! I barely even know her! ||| New York Daily NewsNew York Daily NewsIt's Monday night, which means The Independents is backatcha live at 9 pm ET, 6 pm PT on Fox Business Network (with a midnight-hour repeat), injecting some hot buttered libertarian weirdness into the cable-news slipstream.

Tonight's show begins where Friday's Super Bowl episode left off—with Super Bowl commercials, particularly the two that have generated the most (and most pointless) political controversy: Bob Dylan's Chrysler stunt, and Coca-Cola's multilingual rendition of "America the Beautiful." Commenting on these, as well as on Philip Seymour Hoffman's heroin overdose and the recent confessions-of-a-TSA-snooper essay in Politico, will be Wall Street lawyer-turned comedian Paul Mecurio, and criminal defense attorney-slash-TV commentator Remi Spencer.

Then joining the show for a couple of segments will be former congressman, recent New York mayoral loser and two-time sexting scandal protagonist Anthony Weiner, who is slated to discuss (among other things) Washington's latest debt ceiling fight, President Barack Obama's combative interview with Fox host Bill O'Reilly, and the rather remarkable confession that Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) made last week during his confirmation hearing to be America's next ambassador to China.

Malice! I barely even know her! |||Michael Malice, author of a new unauthorized biography of North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il titled Dear Reader (as well as of a great 2013 Reason feature "My Week in North Korea"), will be on to talk about the horrors of the Hermit Kingdom. And the "Keeping it Kmele" segment tonight will use Janet Yellen's first day on the job as Fed chief to take a closer look at the Federal Reserve. Other topics that may come up on the show include Joe Namath's sartorial awesomeness, the post-game show's 9/11 truther, Bill de Blasio's groundhog (not a euphemism), and beer drones.

There will be a live-stream after-show available on the website, and as always, send your tweets out to @IndependentsFBN; some may be used on air.

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Tonight's show begins where Friday's Super Bowl episode left off...

    I've been waiting all weekend for this cliffhanger to be resolved.

  • ||

  • Rufus J. Firefly||

    Pow! Wham! Biff!

  • ||

    Man I love that show.

  • Sevo||

    Are they finally gonna bust that commie's chops?

  • Rufus J. Firefly||

    When I hear that childish commie talk his logic reminds me of Homer.

    "If Marge marries Artie, I'll never be born!"

  • playa manhattan||

    Back when the funny people wrote for Homer.

  • Irish||

    I'm not going to lie, I'd rather read the authorized autobiography of Kim Jong Il.

    I hear that it talks about the time he singlehandedly saved Pyongyang from an entire army of American soldiers in the middle of a typhoon.

    He did all of this shirtless while the ladies swooned over the physique he earned while training for the 2004 summer Olympics; a competition in which he won seventeen medals, including first place in the 100 meter dash, the long jump, and the general love making competition.

  • Sevo||

    Not THAT commie.

  • Mickey Rat||

    "...and the general love making competition."

    What obscure network did NBC bury that event on?

  • kibby||

    Hooray, the gang is all back together again!

  • ||

    recent New York mayoral loser and two-time sexting scandal protagonist Anthony Weiner

    For the safety of Kennedy and the other female staff they'll be wheeling Congressman Snapchat onto the set like Hannibal Lecter, only with the iron mask on his crotch.

  • playa manhattan||

    I hope he shows up in character as Carlos Danger.

  • kibby||

    Now that you've said this, I want this, too.

  • Killaz||

    Make it happen, Anthony! It's the role you were born to play. Embrace it.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    And the "Keeping it Kmele" segment tonight...

    Suggested titles for other segments:

    "Welch's Gripe Jam"

    "The Kennedy Asinine Nation"

    "Foster Cares"

    "Kennedy's Times Square 'I'm an Idiot and I Can Prove It'"

    "MS Hatemail"

  • ||

    "Going to the Matt"

    "Kennedy and Kmele-lot"

    "Matt Houston--the spinoff"

    "Fuck You That's Why"

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    You didn't need to link to Matt Houston; everyone knows what that is.

  • ||

    You know that. I know that. But does Matt know that?

  • Rufus J. Firefly||

    Where can I watch Seattle celebrating?

  • SweatingGin||

    Just swipe Stossel's segment names from here

  • ||

    That just makes me think of potential Ben & Jerry's libertarian-based ice cream flavors (which would be awesome; too bad they are run by Vermont socialists). Imagine:

    Spooner of Cookie Dough Ice Cream

    Rock-Bardian(Privatized)Road

    Bastiat Seen and Unseen Blend

  • SweatingGin||

    Orphan Tears Ice Cream (it's on the Monocle label)

  • cryptArchy||

    I want this ice cream

  • Cdr Lytton||

    too bad they are run by Vermont socialists

    Ben & Jerry sold out to Unilever in 2000. It's run by the Dutch now.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ...and criminal defense attorney-slash-TV commentator Remi Spencer.

    I hope he does "If You Like Your Plan, You Can Keep It: The Rap" live on the show.

  • Sevo||

    BTW, props on the alt text(s).

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    INDEPENDENTS ASSEMBLE!

  • SweatingGin||

    Ahhh!!! CAVUTO!

  • playa manhattan||

    Next time I'll be 5 seconds earlier.

  • ||

  • playa manhattan||

    FdA in 3,2,1

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    As a disciple of Jeremy Bentham I don't see anything wrong with dying amid 50 bags of heroin - if that is your thing.

    However at the same time I feel deprived of PSH's future work - which of course I had no claim on.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Apparently no one told Hoffman you can't take it with you.

  • ||

    As a disciple of Jeremy Bentham...

    Ladies and gentlemen, the PUREST libertarian on this blog!

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Nope. I famously failed the LP Purity Test as I have said repeatedly.

    It is a bitch of a test.

  • Ted S.||

    Doesn't everybody want to put Shreeky's head on a spike?

  • Not an Economist||

    Why do you want to do that to a spike. Have you no decency?

  • Derpetologist||

    Be gone, you cymbal-banging monkey.

    ...Unless you want to explain how Clinton's surplus caused the debt to go up.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    I think I may actually watch this "Independents" show I've heard so much about. Maybe...

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Don't be an idiot. It watches you.

  • ||

    I thought that was you watching him through the window.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Im blushing

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Hoops? Studs? Dreamcatchers? Place your bets.

  • Derpetologist||

    So I was talking with my brother about gun control. I said that Houston and Chicago have similar populations, but that Chicago has a much higher homicide rate despite strict gun laws. He said this was not a valid comparison because the cultures of the two cities are different.

    The Derpristocrats!

  • Virginian||

    because the cultures of the two cities are different.

    Well he's right. One values armed citizens and the societal benefits of criminals being afraid of them. One does not.

    My favorite time I brought up Houston versus Chicago was when the prog I was arguing against said that the demographics of the cities were different. I asked him what he meant by that. He said "Houston is a lot less diverse then Chicago is". I informed him this was not the case, that the cities are very comparable in size and racial makeup. He insisted that Houston was just full of white people. And of course, it's not racist at all to insist that of course a city of white people has less crime.

  • Derpetologist||

    And of course, it's not racist at all to insist that of course a city of white people has less crime.

    Ho. Lee. Shit.

  • Virginian||

    Yeah it was a weird moment.

  • ||

    Hoops are baaaaackkkkkkkk!

  • Bam!||

    Oh thank god, earrings! I was starting to lose interest in this show.

  • kibby||

    Should we request that they hang shiny things all over the set?

  • SweatingGin||

    One of these nights, we'll turn it on and Matt will have the earrings.

  • ||

    That would be genius.

  • kibby||

    That would cause very conflicting feelings inside of me.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    And only Namath's fur coat?

  • ||

    If A is for adultery, what crime did Kennedy commit to get the K emblem on her chest?

  • ||

    Kennedy-ism.

  • Derpetologist||

    Kegels?

  • Mickey Rat||

    Kapitalism?

  • ||

    Uh Matt, where's your pocket square?

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Oh That Matt Welch is soooo cool

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Foreigners stealing our jingoism.

  • ||

    You can hate Pete Carroll all you want, Kennedy, just don't be a Bronco.

  • BigT||

    Pete Carroll, Jimmy Johnson, and Barry Switzer all have something in common. No, not that they won NCAAF and Super Bowls. They all ran dirty NCAA football programs!!

  • playa manhattan||

    Nothing more American than surfing next to the Manhattan Beach Pier.

  • ||

    Is "hey pocket square" sexist?

  • kibby||

    I don't know, let's find out.

    Hey, pocket square!

    Do you feel othered?

  • ||

    (runs off crying)

  • kibby||

    Score! I have discovered Epi repellent!

  • Bobarian||

    Epi has always been repellent.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Open border one-worlders!

  • ||

    OH NOES COMMERCIALISM

  • Bam!||

    Smooth segue, Kennedy.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Haha just cut him right off.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    DON'T HAVE COMEDIANS ON YOUR SHOW! Next thing you're all going to be laughing at Romney's black grandchild.

  • ||

    I gotta be honest: I have no idea what Bob Dylan looks like and would not have recognized him in the commercial.

  • SweatingGin||

    Haggard. More haggard. Keep going.

    Also, posthumously recorded album.

  • SweatingGin||

    The Coke commercial is the one time where they spent too much time on a topic.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Your friend's child ain't buying cars.

  • playa manhattan||

    Does Bob Dylan drive an American car?

  • Lady Bertrum||

    Bob Dylan drives an angry mule named Folksie.

  • Ted S.||

    He probably has a chauffeur, so he doesn't have to drive any car.

  • Derpetologist||

    I used to think Muslims were the most easily offended people on earth followed by liberals. Now I see that conservatives are not far behind.

    It continues to amaze me that there are people who are offended by the mere existence of other languages.

  • Virginian||

    That ad was very important. Because if one, just one, Archie Bunker type says something bad about, then preening progs can congratulate themselves on how much they loved it.

    A pox on both their houses.

  • ||

    Xenu will make you pay for your skepticism, Kennedy. Via the Scientologists' lawyers.

  • ||

    Kennedy's thetan-levels are off the charts.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Independents gonna get sued.

  • ||

    Remi is surprisingly cute and human for a lawyer. I guess she's gotten really good at faking it.

  • ||

    So they have a code word for what is supposed to be 100% of their job? Amazing.

  • Bam!||

    Thankfully Kennedy has the "K" on her shirt, otherwise I wouldn't know it's her.

  • SweatingGin||

    False. it's actually Kmele's shirt.

  • kibby||

    That isn't Kmele's color.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    MARIJUANA DOESN'T BRING PLANES DOWN.

  • ||

    No, but unsecured water bongs do.

  • Derpetologist||

  • kibby||

    Ugh, Remi don't make me hate you by cheerfully defending the TSA.

  • SweatingGin||

    Gah, I read this far thinking Remi was going to be the Remi that does songs here. Guess that's what I get for just skimming the article.

  • kibby||

    Different spellings, silly goose.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Carlos wandering on stage at will.

  • playa manhattan||

    Kennedy's safe. This is more his type.

  • ||

    He managed to find a girl that is 100% trashy without any redeeming level of hotness.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Was his fly down?

  • SweatingGin||

    CUT TO CAMERA TWO! CAMERA TWO! OH CRAP GET IT BEFORE THE DELAY IS OUT!

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    What are the ads now on Fox Business?

    Boner pills and scat pads still?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    It may sound harsh, but if you have diabetes God does not want you to live.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    It is a subtle death penalty for sure.

  • Lady Bertrum||

    Michael Moynihan is diabetic.

  • ||

    NutraSweet knows, which is why his patron is Satan.

  • GILMORE||

    I think Kmele must be interviewing to be on a better show. the suit's a giveaway. And its only Monday.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Fuck. Dow down 326.

    Correction or breaking bubble?

  • SweatingGin||

    5% off all-time highs! Everybody panic!

  • BigT||

    Even the longest journey starts with a single step.

  • SweatingGin||

    Yup, actually expecting more of a bubble pop, but I like pointing that out.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    You think there's no bubble?

  • SweatingGin||

    Oh, lots of them. Treasuries, stock market, all over the place. Just the slight drop from all-time high is minor.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Backhanded Wienerism.

  • playa manhattan||

    "It was an amazing ad. Who was it for?"
    Fail

  • ||

    So...kid gloves for Weiner? I'M DISAPPOINTED

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Fox Biz is taking on the chin from Weiner.

  • SweatingGin||

    "What are you doing now?"

    you're sexting right now, aren't you? put your phone down.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Damn, Weiner is owning this segment.

  • Killaz||

    I'm thinking James Franco might be a wee miffed that so many people are going around, irrationally declaring PSH the greatest actor of this generation. Sure, he was good, great at times, even. But the greatest? Come on, now. His strength as an actor had a serious down side. He was a master of the affectatious moment where the flow of the story is cast aside and the acting itself is the thing. I don't think this is always a bad thing. Some horrible movies have been only watchable die to having an actor chew up the scenery. However, as an actor who you don't even notice he is acting, that is a different skill. In a script that carries its own weight, it is the only kind of actor that is appropriate in many cases. Even this is not always true. Thinking of Heat, that could of worked with the cast of a soap opera, but Pacino and Iceman were the icing on the cake.

    But, what do you think? Is the phrase 'greatest actor of this generation' getting thrown around because of his death, or because he really was the main contender for that consideration?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I liked 'Spring Breakers' and I don't care if I am the only one over 25 that liked it.

  • Killaz||

    I liked that movie too. I'm only half kidding with Franco. I think he has some great roles coming his way in the next decade.

  • Lady Bertrum||

    Franco isn't actor enough to tie the rubber tube around PSH arm while he injects.

  • Killaz||

    What? You don't get lost in his puppy dog eyes?

    Franco reminds me of Brando more than any other actor of his generation. I never once saw PSH ever fail at a role, become a joke because he took a risk with his characterization, and both Franco and Brando did this with aplomb.

  • Redmanfms||

    Franco reminds me of Brando more than any other actor of his generation. I never once saw PSH ever fail at a role, become a joke because he took a risk with his characterization, and both Franco and Brando did this with aplomb.

    You see, to me at least, that would be a huge insult. Marlon Brando was massively overrated.

  • Killaz||

    Left out the point of the first paragraph, I don't think he was very good as a word-a-day actor. He seemed to me to have little patience for it.

  • Wasteland Wanderer||

    But, what do you think?

    Everytime I see "PSH", I think Pants Shitting Horror, and not Philip Seymour Hoffman.

    Just sayin'.

  • GILMORE||

    WTF, weiner? WHAT? for the love of god. First the communist, then this. How C-list can you get?

    OH SHIT HE'S BUSTING *YOUR* CHOPS?!

  • Killaz||

    Man's gotta eat. What better way to climb back up the ladder than besting some libertarians who are off their game?

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    WHAT?

  • ||

    So Matt, Kennedy, and Kmele get a Weiner in their face and they just freeze up. It's like you're all inexperienced or something.

  • playa manhattan||

    He must have misspoken. Nobody is that stupid.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    When the deficit shrinks the debt goes down.

    Wha?

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    When he says debt he means projected debt for 2090. So if the massive insane amount we will owe in 2090 from continuing deficits goes down.. our debt goes down. See??

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I suggest letting Foster handle this.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    ATTACK YOU FUCKERS

  • Bam!||

    They should be beating Weiner until he chafes but instead let Weiner get off.

  • ||

    Did...did Weiner just say it's 10% of the GOP that won't stop spending? I had trouble following his moronic metaphor.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Ha, useless posturing is great.

  • kibby||

    I have a headache now from this incredibly confusing discussion.

  • Ted S.||

    This might explain why the shows' viewership is only in the five-figure range.

  • Killaz||

    Also the fact it is 460+ channels up on my remote can't help.

  • BigT||

    Weiner full of it. It's not like just paying the debt, it's INCREASING the debt. Why don't you call him on it?????

  • Lady Bertrum||

    Kennedy - awesome job!

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    I played that Stevie Wonder song all weekend. Should be Zero's theme song.

  • GILMORE||

    Hold the fuck on - deficit shrinking? equates to 'less debt'?

    "Adding *less* debt" each month than previous is still ADDING DEBT each month

    How fucking stupid do you think people are?

    Oh, and the 10% 'wackadoo' groups... DOMINATES the GOP? Which is it? 10% or DOMINANT? These fuckers do this all the time... the opposition is "Fringe"... but they're DOMINATED by the fringe?

    Do they listen to themselves?

  • Derpetologist||

    I see that like most of the posters here, you have farted out more brain cells than the average prog ever uses.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Dick "Deficits Don't Matter" Cheney is his target.

    Sure, the deficit is down dramatically since Obama took over but a deficit of a dollar still adds that dollar to the debt.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    BUSHHHHH

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    BBOOOOSSSSHHHHH!

    The stench remains!

  • Derpetologist||

    Obama ran up the largest deficits in US history.

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/3.....-treasury/

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    A lie. The CBO says Bush did.

    Not worth your cover - trust me on that.

  • Derpetologist||

    Obama had 2 years of $1.3 trillion deficits. No other president has ever racked up so much debt. Obama racked up more debt in his first term than Bush did in both terms.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    That he inherited from the Bushpigs.

  • Derpetologist||

    Did he inherit the ones in 2010 and 2011 too? You know, when he was president and had the power to veto any spending bill?

  • Sevo||

    "How fucking stupid do you think people are?"

    As stupid as shreek, THAT'S how stupid.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Why was Weiner allowed to perpetuate his ridiculous logic without much rebuttal from anybody? WTF?

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    I want 30 seconds of uninterrupted Kmele rebuttal when we get back from commercial. Make it happen.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    I could tell he wanted to say something by his facial expressions but he didn't. Get him in there!

  • SweatingGin||

    I want the first shot having Kennedy looking at her phone, scandalized.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Second.

  • ||

    I'm still reeling from how Weiner was allowed to insert himself into the conversation and just keep pounding away at you guys while all you did was lie there and whimper.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    I see what you did there.

  • BigT||

    The INDEPENDENTS have become the IMPOTENTS.

  • ||

    AIIGGHHH OBAMA

  • ||

    "Turd balloon" is good, Kennedy, but it doesn't redeem your bending over for Weiner.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    And the Obama Administration has been held to account for all that went wrong.

  • BigT||

    No one was even downgraded, much less fired over Benghazi. It's the no-responsibility Admin.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Which Reagan official got fired over the 241 US Marines that were murdered at the US Embassy in 1983?

  • Derpetologist||

    HURR DURR TU QUOQUE HURR DURR!

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    They lied for two weeks.

  • GILMORE||

    Fox News murdered our diplomats in Libya.

    And weiner is celebrating the presidents ability to deflect questions.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    He sure as shit didn't correct it.

    What a pig.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    He gave Rice the Rice line.

  • BigT||

    4 Americans lost their lives because they spent the money on new cars in Austria!!

  • ||

    Finally Kennedy gets exasperated, after getting her fill of Weiner. It took long enough. Too much Weiner.

  • SweatingGin||

    Weiner.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

  • playa manhattan||

    404

  • Francisco d Anconia||

  • SweatingGin||

    Risky click.

  • ||

    Kennedy swallowed up as much as she cared to take from Wiener. He better but up because she's not going to take anymore laying down!

  • ||

    This is a much better discussion. Kennedy just owned Weiner and cut to the next topic

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    NEXT TOPIC

  • GILMORE||

    Wiener speaks, but the words, no meaning seems to emerge from them. He makes noise until no one cares whats being discussed anymore. I think this is a trick politicians master. Blarg blahs blarg blahs.

  • SweatingGin||

    This might be the fastest I've ever heard her talk.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    I'm ashamed.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Good things happened when Foster went toe to toe sans interruption.

  • playa manhattan||

    So he doesn't know what an ADIZ is, and he wants to be involved in international relations?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Bullshit.

  • GILMORE||

    Wiener = because we live in the modern world, we can lie because 'complexity'. We can lie for months. And we can say things are confusing. Because there's a lot of stuff out there. Imperfect knowledge means that any possible outcomes. its a tough job.

  • ||

    Why do they let Weiner continue to spurt his nonsense without any kind of injection or interruption?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    They're letting Weiner bullshit his way through this.

  • Sevo||

    Sorta like they did that sniveling commie?
    Sorta like talk shows do?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Myerson wasn't any good at bullshitting so letting him talk was the best coarse. Weiner's douchebaggery needed to be confronted. They should have chosen one of them to go rebut him.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Course. Yeah, that looks better.

  • Sevo||

    Dunno, FoE, I'm afraid that talk shows operate under talk show rules regardless of the Top Men involved.
    Carson busted Geller once, but that made national news. The rest of the time, guests seem to get BP fastballs or 15 called strikes before they wander off camera.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Ask him about his dick.

  • ||

    This is actually really exasperating that Weiner gets to continue with his nonsense on your show.

    And I'm out, folks, I have a tennis match. Have fun.

  • GILMORE||

    Tennis? pppppt.

    Real libertarians play *Polo*.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    I have to say, I actually liked Weiner better than Communist Guy. But they need to actually call him on the bullshit.

  • GILMORE||

    please, this is not a guest you need to ever ask back. JUST SPIT IN HIS FACE AND CALL HIM A SHITTY LIAR!

  • kibby||

    Yeahhh, let's not invite him back unless we're prepared to argue back.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Most of that was pitiful. Weiner was just allowed to perpetuate BS. Come on guys.

  • GILMORE||

    NO, we hope you lose all your teeth in your hockey game.

  • SweatingGin||

    Try not to tweet any pictures of your cock on the way to the hockey game!

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    "LOL"

  • ||

    Was that an unscripted moment from Kennedy?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    What is Weiner lying about? The size of his dick?

    I live in Georgia - we don't get Foxy business.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Namath was three sheets.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Anything else, I'd be disappoint.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Jack Lambert would have handled that differently.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    WHY THE FUCK DOES NYC EVEN HAVE A GROUNDHOG?

  • ||

    The groundhog resents being drafted and coerced into state service. Groundhogs are libertarians.

  • kibby||

    Are they on our coat of arms?

  • ||

    No, that would be the honey badger.

  • kibby||

    Also, why have I not been sent my libertarian coat of arms sew-on patch yet? Are you the person I need to speak to?

  • ||

    Depends. Do you have your Koch Brothers decoder ring? Any message I give you won't make sense without it.

  • kibby||

    One of my cats batted it under the stove, so I guess I'm SOL.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    I have no problem with traditions that involve varmints biting politicians.

  • Bobarian||

    Feeding mayors to wild rodents?

    Best tradition ever!

  • Bobarian||

    But a badger would be a lot better than a ground-hog

  • playa manhattan||

    Make it a Honey Badger, and I'll throw in a few bucks.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Don't care.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Wolverines!

  • Sevo||

    Weasels ripped my flesh!

  • GILMORE||

    Kmele's tie. Brooks brothers.

    http://www.brooksbrothers.com/.....ntentpos=8

    kind of a staple of the last decade.

  • kibby||

    Mmmm, Brooks Brothers. I need to find me a man who knows how to dress well.

  • GILMORE||

    LOU DOBBS!!!

  • kibby||

    *urks*

  • Kmele||

    Guilty.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Overtime goal in the Sens Pens game. FYI.

  • SweatingGin||

    Scored by Anthony Weiner Carlos Danger?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Apparently he traded his necktie for the propaganda.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Us Southerners are truly blessed by Gawd.

    We have Duck Dynasty, NASCAR, and Honey BOO-BOO. Take that, bitches!

  • Bobarian||

    WTF?

    What color is the sky in your world?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    STARS and BARS!

  • Derpetologist||

    Schizophrenia is characterized by disordered thinking. Schizophrenic speech is often a jumble of ideas known as word salad. For example:

    Dear sirs,

    Pertaining to our continuing failure to prosecute violations of minors' rights to the sovereign equality which are occurring in gestations being comprised by ingestion of controlled subtances, the skewing androgeny which continues in female juveniles even after their separation from their mothers has occurred, and as means of promulflagitating my paying of Governor Hinkel of Alaska for any employees to have personal services endorsements and controlled substances endorsements, the Iraqi oil being released by the United Nations being identified as Kurdistanian oil, and the July 1991 issue of the Siberian Review spells President Eltsin's name without a y.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "Chang eats the sun and drinks the skies, and they both go with him when he dies."

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Guns.

  • GILMORE||

    Gee, finally a guest who is interesting. Surprise?!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "Your regime has the momentum of a runaway train..."

  • Bam!||

    If anyone hasn't seen that documentary that's on Netflix about the US solider who defected to North Korea in the 60s, you should do so.

  • SweatingGin||

    The National Geographic / Cataract surgery one is scary as fuck. Vice one is good, of course, as well. I'll have to check out the one you mention.

  • playa manhattan||

    For people who haven't seen the doc that SG mentioned, a charitable organization goes to NK and restores the sight of the blind. They immediately turn to a picture of Dear Leader and thank him.

  • ||

    Actor Sir Michael Caine says he was a socialist as a youth right up until he was sent to Korea and actually saw what communism meant

  • Sevo||

    So Caine is smarter than Rodman?

  • ||

    Low bar for sure. But he's also smarter than Patrick Stewart who self-describes as a socialist.

    Then again Caine is conservative to the point of advocating national service to stop youth delinquency.

  • playa manhattan||

    Linky?

  • Bam!||

  • playa manhattan||

    Thanks

  • BigT||

    The WoD killed a great actor. If smack were legal he would not have miscalculated what he was shooting up and (accidentally) killed himself. He could still commit suicide NTTAWWT.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I agree on that. May worlds not collide.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "Brandt can't watch, though, or he has to pay a hundred."

  • GILMORE||

    Aw, kennedy made a 'yucky' face when she mentions PSH death. DEATH is GROSS!

  • BigT||

    70 bags if UNKNOWN quality!!

  • SweatingGin||

    Police trying to find where he got the drugs? Just blame silk road, of course.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    BAN IT.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    I hate republicans.

  • kibby||

    Republicans are so stupid.

  • BigT||

    Socons are stupid. Some Republicans follow that lead, but many do not.

  • SIV||

    Ron and Rand Paul are socons.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Yeah, sure.

  • ||

    Len Bias dies of cocaine and 30 years later thousands and thousands of people are locked in cages because of mandatory minimums.

    Fuck this ''teachable moment" bullshit that leads to kneel jerk legislation.

  • BigT||

    Len Bias would almost certainly be alive today if cocaine had been legal.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Damn, you sprechen da truth again!

  • SIV||

    Actually he'd still be dead. Undiagnosed congenital heart defects can easily kill w/o cocaine.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Make it more illegaler.

  • BigT||

    No, heroin is not particularly dangerous if the quality is controlled and known.

  • BigT||

    Some evidence says that chocolate chip cookies are MORE addictive.

  • kibby||

    I'll vouch for that.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    I have 72 bags of chocolate chip cookies in my house right now.

  • kibby||

    Is this an invitation?

  • ||

    Hmm, now I want cookies. Maybe I can get my sister or dad to make some.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Wife bought cookie dough oreos. Must try.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Avoid. Not good. Wrong mix of flavors.

  • playa manhattan||

    It took you 5 minutes to figure that out?

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Hadda get up, get teh cookies, pour teh melk, et one, et a second one to make shoor, post teh comment.

    5 minutes is the best I can do.

  • kibby||

    Making cookies is EASY. Learn to bake & impress your lady friend! I'd have loved it if any of the morons I dated could do something awesome like cook or bake.

  • ||

    I can cook but haven't really tried baking. I've already made her eggplant Parmesan at her place.

  • kibby||

    If you're doing something for Valentine's, definitely bake something cutesy.

  • ||

    Make these.

    Thank me later.

  • Sevo||

    Butter (LOTS), sugar, flour, a bit of vanilla, drop it on a cookie sheet, give it, oh, 15 minutes at 300*
    But I'm married.

  • Killaz||

    Sorry you missed out on me, kibby. I make the kid and wife a batch of cookies once a week. Roll it and refrigerate so she can bake as she pleases.

  • kibby||

    Booo. I'm pretty resigned to my fate of dying alone at this point, so it's okay.

  • Bobarian||

    Shooting up chocolate chips is so inconvenient, though.

  • SweatingGin||

  • BigT||

    the study was on OREOS

  • Bobarian||

    Also, if it's not cut with who knows what.

  • Bam!||

    Wounded Warrior commercial. Because what is The Independents without a guilt trip?

  • Bam!||

    We've had 3 quantitative easings. The cumulative hangover might kill the economy.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    And this is the wishful thinking portion of the Kennedy segment.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    AH! Lou Dobbs.

  • SweatingGin||

    HA! GOT AWAY BEFORE LOU DOBBS!

  • RishJoMo||

    That wiener dude is SUCH a wiener!

    www.Anon-Works.com

  • Bobarian||

    Stream keeps crashing on me.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Uh, there's no live stream. This is total bullshit.

  • Bobarian||

    They seem to be having issues.

  • Bobarian||

    4th time crashed...

    Get your shit together, FBN

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    FIX YOUR BROWSER. That stream was interesting.

  • kibby||

    Oh, good, it's not just me. I thought I was going mad or something.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    IT'S PLAYING NOW.

  • kibby||

    MY SALVATION HAS ARRIVED.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    I was promised a live stream.

  • SweatingGin||

    A month ago, none other than Conan O'Brien exposed the un-independent PR-sponsored propaganda-fest that is the local news mainstream media in America. Well, it's happened again... this time proclaiming "Don't worry... be Happy."

    Link

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Oh man, I thought it was the actor who was in that awful Rosie O'Donnell movie.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    This guy is recommending anyone to go to North Korea. I think I'll pass.

  • kibby||

    Very subtle, Matt.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    He dropped an F-bomb.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Well, sort of a b-bomb.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Oh shit. EPIX3, the Uhura fan dance.

  • kibby||

    & so ends the most exciting part of my day, outside of my advisor trying to get me to apply for the Masters program.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Remain draped in warm safety of academia as long as you can!

  • kibby||

    If I teach the chitlins, my tuition gets waived! It's very tempting, but I'd still need more loans to pay for living expenses.

  • SIV||

    DON'T DO IT!

  • kibby||

    Please back up your argument with rhetorical flourish.

  • ||

    If you don't mind me asking, what's your year and major?

  • kibby||

    I MIND VERY MUCH, SIR. I AM OFFENDED.

    I'm in my last semester as a Classics major with a concentration in Classical Civilization. So mostly I do a lot of nerding out about the fall of the Republic & the rise of the Julio-Claudian dynasty.

  • playa manhattan||

    What school? (So I can judge you)

  • kibby||

    The University of Arizona.

    That bastion of higher learning, you know.

  • Irish||

    At first I thought you said Arizona State and was going to heavily judge you.

    University of Arizona is a bit more high class than that though.

  • kibby||

    It's still pretty low class. The shining beacon that's kept me sane amongst the frat boys & sorority girls is my department & its professors.

  • playa manhattan||

    I would hire people out of ASU's business program.

    IDK much else about the school, other than it's almost as good a place to get an STD as UC Santa Barbara.

  • playa manhattan||

    With a university that large, your education is what you choose it to be.

    In state tuition?

  • kibby||

    I had discount for a year & a half (1200 dollars a semester or something) while I was working, so by the time my schedule wouldn't allow for my job I had instate rates.

    They're still pretty wallet-rapey, though.

  • playa manhattan||

    I went to UC Berkeley for $4200/yr (not counting summer school), without any financial aid. And I'm not that old. I think it is around $17,000 now.

  • kibby||

    How old is "not that old"? Because that seems crazy low to me.

  • playa manhattan||

    Class of 2002. (I was one of those evil frat boys on the 5 year plan)

  • Irish||

    With a university that large, your education is what you choose it to be.

    -Playa manhattan leaned back in his chair and smiled ruefully, as he always did when dispensing life advice to the less philosophical-

    "I'm zen as fuck," Playa manhattan intoned solemnly.

  • playa manhattan||

    I didn't mean to come off as being Bo Cara ish. I blame the delicious Islander IPA that I am enjoying for the first time ever tonight.

    Seriously though, with an undergrad population of around 30,000, you are going to have some dipshits and some geniuses attending...

  • Killaz||

    Nephew just woke me up to show me the haul he took from the Bell's release event at a local store (cool, I was about to get up for a piss, anyway). Six pack of Hops Slam, and another of Two Hearted Ale. I'm having a few of each tomorrow, for sure! Back to bed.

  • ||

    Huh, are you affiliated with any campus libertarian groups like YAL or SFL?

  • kibby||

    I don't even know if we have any. I've always lived off campus & didn't go back to school until I was twenty-four, so I just steered clear of clubs & organizations as a rule.

  • ||

    There's a Young Americans for Liberty group. I was just wondering because I've met UofA students at conferences for YAL and Students for Liberty.

  • Agammamon||

    . . . titled Dear Reader

    THAT"S RACIST!

  • playa manhattan||

    That's lacist!

  • Agammamon||

    Oh you motherpucker.

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