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The Trump EPA's Plan to End Greenhouse Gas Emission Regulation from Stationary Sources
Instead of making a headlong rush at the endangerment finding, the Administration is adopting a more targeted deregulatory strategy.
A draft of the Environmental Protection Agency's proposed regulation to undo the Biden Administration's regulations governing greenhouse gas emissions from power plants is undergoing White House review. If finalized, this rule would end EPA regulation of greenhouse gases from power plants, and put on ice greenhouse gas regulation of other stationary sources under the Clean Air Act.
The EPA is not seeking to undo the Biden power plant rules by challenging the EPA's 2009 endangerment finding. Though urged by some, this would have been foolhardy. Rather, according to this New York Times report, the EPA appears to be taking a more strategic approach along the lines of what I suggested in this post last week.
From the NYT story:
In its proposed regulation, the agency argued that carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from power plants that burn fossil fuels "do not contribute significantly to dangerous pollution" or to climate change because they are a small and declining share of global emissions. Eliminating those emissions would have no meaningful effect on public health and welfare, the agency said.
The key word in the statutory language is "significantly." The EPA is not claiming that climate change does not pose a threat, nor is the EPA claiming that greenhouse gases do not contribute to climate change. Rather, the EPA is saying that fossil fuel-fired power plants in the United States to not contribute "significantly" to global greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere.
In proposing to lift regulations on power plants, the E.P.A. points to the fact that the U.S. share of global power sector emissions represented about 3 percent of worldwide greenhouse gases in 2022, down from 5.5 percent in 2005. So, it argued, even if American power plants erased all their greenhouse gases from the power sector, the risk to public health would not be "meaningfully" improved.
As global climate change is a global concern--and is driven by global concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, it does not matter that power plants are a large share of domestic emissions. And, as U.S. emissions decline as a share of global emissions, the significance of domestic power plants will decline over time.
If the EPA goes ahead with this approach, the final rule will certainly be challenged. A key question in such litigation will be whether reviewing courts accept the EPA's definition of what it means for a category of sources to contribute "significantly" to a type of air pollution. Absent Chevron deference the EPA's interpretation of the the statutory language will not carry much wait, but courts may be convinced that this is nonetheless a question upon which courts should respect agency expertise and accommodate the EPA Administrator's exercise of discretion. But as noted above (and as I told the Times), if the EPA is successful with such a rule, it will effectively end the regulation of greenhouse gases from stationary sources under Section 111 of the Clean Air Act.
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Wait. So power plant emissions are down since 2005. Isn't part of that reduction due to the regulations in place? And since the power companies want the regulations lifted, we know that as soon as they are the emissions will go up again.
And what kind of argument is "We only produce 3% of the emissions, so we can let them go up?" What's the threshold? 5%? so should every country that produces less than 5% just not worry about it?
This is nonsense.
"We put up a traffic light at that dangerous intersection, and accidents there are way down. So I guess we don't need the traffic light any more." Reminds me a bit of Shelby County logic.
The decline in U.S. power sector emissions over the last 20 years is largely due to the massive transition from coal fueled generation to natural gas fueled generation that happened in the wake of the fracking revolution.
Over that period coal fueled generation was cut by more than 65% while natural gas fueled generation grew by nearly 150%.
And coal production increased through 2008 and so we it was actually Wyoming coal that undermined the WV coal industry…so do MAGA propose a tariff on Wyoming coal and natural gas?? Wyoming Republicans did vote for Lizard Cheney in November 2020. 😉
In Mass v EPA, the Supreme Court made it clear that scientific evidence is not the basis of court rulings. That makes their decisions just bias, feelings, cultural beliefs, fleeting moods, hanger, self interest, affiliated party interest. The Supreme Court rejected critical thinking, science, and logic. Its decisions are worthless garbage.
Isn't it the elected branches' job to make value judgements on, among other things, scientific findings?
Why would courts reverse that any more than any other value judgements? It isn't the court's job to substitute its own policy for that of the political branches.
It isn't the court's job to substitute its own policy for that of the political branches.
Greetings, Mr Ambassador. There are many customs on this planet that will surprise you.
The EPA cannot regulate greenhouse gas emissions because it’s not part of their mission statement because nobody has ever proven that greenhouse gas emissions harm humans or the environment. Congress would have to pass legislation to allow the federal government to regulate greenhouse gas emissions.
Fracking for the win:
2023 Source__Million KWH__Million metric tn CO2__lbs CO2 per KWH
Coal 675,115 709 2.31
Natural gas 1,806,063 790 0.96
Petroleum 16,233 16 2.46
In 2005 Coal was 1992 GWH, Natural Gas was 638, so coal went from 3x the KWH output of gas to 1/3 the output, and gas puts out almost 60% less CO2 per kwh.
No, the nonsense is the anthropogenic global warming scam. One need not be a scientist to know that when people lie to support their cause, it is because they are pounding the table instead of facts or the law.
* Polar bears are thriving.
* Arctic summer sea ice has not disappeared.
* Snow has not disappeared.
* The Antarctic polar cap is stable.
* The Greenland ice cap is stable.
Among the dumber lies is the frauds who measured how much Greenland surface ice melted during the day and screamed "Wolf!", neglecting to mention that it all froze again overnight. When that is the kind of facts they back up their alarmism with, they have nothing on their side.
The most expensive fraud was Bush’s belief in some notion of North American Peak Fossil Fuel…that cost us $3 trillion and 4500 Gold Stars in Iraq. Tillerson also invested XOM’s windfall profits into Qatar’s LNG infrastructure instead of investing it into America. Nothing the Green Movement could ever do could compete with that level of stupidity.
One need not be a scientist to know that when people lie to support their cause, it is because they are pounding the table instead of facts or the law.
Congratulations on the self-own
No. US power plant emissions were already on the way down long before the EPA's "endangerment" finding. Unless you think regulations can act backwards in time, the regulations could not have been the driving factor.
Ok, Rossami.
But then why the push to eliminate the regulations if they are not a binding constraint on emissions?
Bernard makes the libertarian case for keeping meaningless regulations.
I'm not making a case for meaningless regulations at all. Not close. If they do nothing then sure, go ahead and get rid of them. I don't care. (Nor, btw, am I a libertarian.)
What I am questioning is whether they are meaningless. Now maybe Rossami is right and they don't do anything and never really did. But I'm still left with my question unanswered (LoB tried, but I don't quite follow his point.) Why would power companies expend lobbying effort and money and political pull to get the regulations removed if they were just empty words on a pieces of paper?
Rossami makes the point that emissions were declining well before the endangerment finding. Does that mean they wouldn't have plateaued at higher than the current level?
Believe it or not, I'm actually looking for information here.
Saving the often substantial overhead of demonstrating to the satisfaction of the relevant bereaucritters that the standards you already had in place fall on the good side of their impenetrable regulatory thicket, for starters.
Oh, those regulations are very binding - they're just ineffective. They're also expensive, inhibit innovation and are generally bad policy.
All I know is your argument at the world level is nonsense.
China and India have DRASTICALLY increased coal use and we throw billions and billions away ---what can I compare it to...Maybe giving a known serial murderer a traffic violation ticket
CHINA
China doubles down on coal with rapid roll-out of new railway track to the world’s largest deposit
257km line from Zhundong open pit to Urumqi will increase the mine’s transport capacity to more than 100 million tonnes a year
China's growing use of coal including the LONGEST coal transporting railway - which carries 200 MILLION tons of fossil fuel 1,141 MILES annually - draws pundit outrage as western nations spend BILLIONS to push citizens to reduce carbon footprint
A Scottish journalist highlighted the incongruity between the green initiatives coming from Western countries and those coming from China
China is responsible for 33 percent of the world's greenhouse gas, but continues to power itself by coal and establish itself as a global superpower
In the US, the Biden Administration continues to propose tens of billions of dollars be allocated to green initiatives that may or may not be effective
INDIA
India doubles new coal fired power capacity in 2023
India to Increase Domestic Coal Production by 42% over 5 Years
IER
April 15, 2025
IF YOU CAN'T BEAR TO THINK THIS IS TRUE, at least admit that to yourself. What is nonsense to me is thinking any answer to your problem is an answer at all
Isn't it great that US climate change policy turns on a dime every four years? Unitary Executive FTW!
Biden made us energy dominant with a big assist from Putin…and Republicans threw a tantrum the entire time. I don’t know who’s dumber…Democrats that oppose fracking or Republicans that oppose helping Ukraine??
we were never energy dominant and Biden would gave given our whole national energy security to China
===>BLM proposes opening 31M acres of public land to solar development
The updated Western Solar Plan proposal expands potential development by 9 million acres beyond the agency’s original proposal
=====> China dominates the global solar panel supply chain, controlling more than 80% of the manufacturing capacity for polysilicon, wafers, cells, and modules.
=====> FINALLY Rogue communication devices found in Chinese solar power inverters
By Sarah Mcfarlane
May 14, 2025
No, that's how governments work when they hold elections. There are two ways to fix this.
* Cut government power waaaaay waay back.
* Stop holding elections.
You have made quite clear which one you prefer.
Allow me to quote Sec. of Agriculture Brooke Rollins on the topic:
“We’re not doing that climate change, you know, crud, anymore.”
And I do not believe there has been any reversal of the course on the recession of the endangerment finding. It took Obama's EPA 9 months to put that ridiculousness in place. It can be rescinded within the same time frame at the very least.
This is a textbook example of where no deference is due. The EPA is suddenly shifting its position based not on any expertise but solely on the new political priorities of a new administration.
The law needs to have a consistent meaning across administrations.
I would argue that the prior reversal (where the EPA suddenly discovered that CO2 was a covered "pollutant") was the decision that deserved no deference. If Congress wanted to declare CO2 a pollutant, they had multiple opportunities. They refused - repeatedly. It took an overreaching executive exercising political priorities to ram that policy through.
Was that actually sudden?
A fairly fast 9 month process for the finding by the Obama administration. It can and should be rescinded in about half the time.
If that’s so, can you explain why this Administration is choosing to leave the previous finding that it is a pollutant undisturbed, as Professor Addler explains in his post? If the Administration had any confidence the previous finding was mere politics, don’t you think it would have gone the path of undoing it?
Apparently this is just the quicker option, due to insane legal procedures that render such findings largely irreversible.
As has been previously mentioned THERE IS NO LAW.
The EPA was created under NEPA. You can look it up.
The Endangerment Finding is not a statute, little communist girl that never smiled.
Says every criminal everywhere. No law, no crime. Classic criminal attitude.
Absent Chevron deference the EPA's interpretation of the the statutory language will not carry much wait . . .
Nonsense. In environmental cases, to create wait is the right-wing majority's principal tool.
And, of course, it’s urgent to reduce CO2 from US, and only US sources, by an insignificant amount, while it skyrockets around the world, with China, for example, opening a new coal powered plant weekly, on average.
Of course, the “Endangerment” finding was based on sciency cargo cult religion. It’s built on computer models that run hot, and don’t adequately forecast or hindcast, using heavily massaged, inherently inaccurate, input values, with zero transparency as to how they were massaged.
Most of the CO2 in the Troposphere comes from the 2.3lbs per day each Human exhales, multiply that by 8 Billion and it adds up. Putin invading You-Crane has been the best thing for the Environment since the Ear-Ron/Ear-Rack Wah. Human CO2 Production is directly proportional to ones weight (3ml/kg/min if you want to get exact) so every one of you fat (redacteds) is just making it worse, Christ Christy is the problem(o), not my Corvette.
Frank
Frank, CO2 is not the problem at all
Statement of Patrick Moore, Ph.D.
Before the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, Subcommittee on
Oversight
February 25, 2014
“Natural Resource Adaptation: Protecting ecosystems and economies
Moore was a co-founder of Greenpeace and the only academic there.
Patrick Moore: Global warming poses little threat
There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO{-2}) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years.
attended the University of British Columbia, where he obtained a B.Sc. in Forest Biology in 1969, and a Ph.D. in 1974.
Why should I believe you over him?
Moore is not a climate scientist. Why should I believe him over actual climate scientists?
Climate scientist? Like Michael Mann? Hockey Stick, anyone?
There are considerably more than just one climate scientist, fuckwit.
Good Point - Michael Mann demonstrated that he was a serial liar through out the Cei/NR/simberg/Styen litigation. Why would anyone trust his professional work when he displayed such poor personal ethics with his serial lying?
You got the Ass-Burgers too? wouldn't recognize sarcasm if it slapped you in the face? Have narrowly focused interests that you insist on boring others with? (Mine is how in the 1970's, you'd constantly hear broadcasters talk about how well the light hitting Oriole Shortstop Mark Belanger hit against Fire-baller Nolan Ryan, even remember someone saying Belanger had a home run off "the Express", of course in the 1970's AlGore hadn't invented the Internets, even the Sporting News Annual Baseball Almanac didn't break stats down that far, so you couldn't really check it out.
Turns out Belanger was 11 for 45 (.244) lifetime against Ryan, no Homers, OPS of .624 (admittedly slightly better than Belanger's .228/.589 career line)
Strange thing is Belanger went from 0 homers in 1973 to 5 in 1974 playing the same number of games, PED's????*, heck, he only hit 20 his entire career
Frank
* Just joking, Boog Powell used to joke they could slide Belanger in through the mail slot. Skinny guy, nicknamed "the Blade", only "PED" he used was a pack of Luckys a day, sadly, died of Lung Cancer age 54, that fatty Boog Powell still around at 83
Hopefully the new rule succeeds!