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Baude on Trump v. Wilcox: "Predictable and Reasonable"
A defense of the Supreme Court's decision to let President Trump remove members of the NLRB and MSPB.
Yesterday, by a vote of 6-3, the Supreme Court stayed district court orders blocking President Trump from removing members of the Gwynne Wilcox from the National Labor Relations Board and Cathy Harris from the Merit Systems Protection Board. As I noted before, this case targeted Humphrey's Executor and had the potential to effectively eliminate independent regulatory agencies as a category.
In today' New York Times, Will Baude has an op-ed largely defending the Court's order as both "predictable and reasonable" that largely captures my views on the subject (thus freeing me from writing a longer blog post on the case). He writes:
We have plenty of things to worry about in constitutional law today. But those worried about how the court will confront the unprecedented and sometimes unlawful actions of the Trump administration should save their outrage for other cases.
In the two cases here, the court held that the president was likely to prevail in his unitary executive claim, that the administration was unduly harmed by allowing the officials to keep their offices while the case was pending, and that this reasoning would not imperil the independence of the Federal Reserve. It did all of this in an emergency order, rather than waiting for the issues to arrive on the court's regular docket.
All four of these things are noteworthy and provoked a powerful dissent by Justice Elena Kagan. But in this particular case, all four can be justified.
It was reasonable for the Court to conclude that the NLRB and MSPB are more like the Consumer Financial Protection Board than they are like the 1930s Federal Trade Commission, and thus limitations on presidential removal of board members conflicted with Seila Law and should not be saved by Humphrey's Executor. Indeed, it is not clear the current FTC would qualify. The "quasi-legislative" functions of the FTC the Court considered important in Humphrey's were the FTC's responsibilities for assisting and informing Congress, not promulgating regulations.
But what about the Federal Reserve? Baude writes:
The court's declaration that the Federal Reserve is different also has a plausible basis. In the decades after the nation's founding, practice and precedent firmly established the constitutionality of the Bank of the United States, which operated as a corporation with some independence from the president. This suggests that monetary policy is not necessarily executive power. While the Federal Reserve today does many things beyond its core mission of monetary policy, the court would have several options for preserving at least some independent functions for the Federal Reserve.
I would go a little further and note that all the Court said in its order is that allowing the removal of NLRB and MSPB members does not "necessarily" mean that members of the Federal Reserve Board are also removable. It is simply a separate question, and it may well be the case that the Fed's primary responsibilities (monetary policy) can be insulated from executive control, whereas some of its regulatory functions cannot. Those are all questions courts can sort out another day.
More Baude:
Officially, the court was careful not to completely prejudge the legal issues, nor to state definitively that previous precedents about independent agencies would be narrowed or overruled. It made an honest judgment about the likelihood of success on the merits, as the law calls for.
Even if it had gone further and made such definitive statements, this is not the kind of case where that should especially concern us. It is bad when the emergency docket forces the justices to quickly take positions on tough issues that they have not had time to consider carefully. But the unitary executive question has been before the court multiple times in recent cases, with extensive briefing and argument. All of the justices have thought carefully about the legal issues and made up their minds about most of them.
The president's ruinous tariffs, purported cancellation of birthright citizenship, renditions to foreign prisons and retaliations against his political opponents all raise far graver constitutional problems than the court's ultimately unsurprising order in these cases. We should focus our concern there.
That seems right to me.
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Sure, why would Americans have to worry about the President being able to ignore the constraints on his powers that Congress has seen fit to include in legislation? It's not as if the constitution gives one of them the job of making laws and the other one the job of implementing them. And what harm could possibly come from Donald Trump having unfettered power over the executive branch?
Sure, why would Americans have to worry about Congress being able to ignore the constraints on its powers that We the People have seen fit to include in the Constitution? It's not as if the constitution gives one of them the job of making laws and the other one the job of implementing them. And what harm could possibly come from the chief Executive having unfettered power over the executive branch?
There is no constraint in the Constitution on Congress making laws that regulate removal, or any other presidential power - except the veto, which is itself part of the legislative process. We the People are free, through our representatives, to make any limitation on how the law gets executed that in our judgment makes the country a better place.
As to your second point, when the King had unfettered power over those who executed the law in his name, it was bad. It's in the Declaration, in fact.
While there's an argument to be made that Congress is higher in power than the Executive, in the Constitution, they are both still the ultimate in their own domains.
If we take the view that Congress can simply write a law that the Executive do what they tell him to do, then the Executive role is just a sham. Why even bother voting for the President? It's like saying that Congress could write a law that invalidates portions of the Constitution. Just because they write it and pass it, that doesn't make it a valid use of their powers. Not all laws get to be laws.
The Supreme Court has generally held that there are constraints that Congress can put on the Executive and his workers. They've also said that there are some realms where they can't.
From a structural standpoint, I don't think there's anything wrong or unfair about that. It relies on us having good and wise judges, who are free of influence, to ensure that meaningful and well-selected boundaries have been chosen.
I'd view that as the larger target to focus on.
"If we take the view that Congress can simply write a law that the Executive do what they tell him to do?"
To be the executive is inherently to be subservient to the legislature. Law (not necessarily written law) controls everything we do, whether we're private individuals or public officials. What I'm saying is straight out of the introduction of Blackstone's Commentaries.
What's more, the modern understanding seems to be that the people are supposed to elect 535 masters and then disappear for two years. But that doesn't reflect the proper (framing era) conception of the relationship between the legislature and the people. We're always deciding things through our representative institutions. Congress is supposed to be the nation gathered in one room. It's an agent.
We split sovereignty, so not everything is decided by the people of the nation. But if something is decided by them, it is presumably within the power of Congress to regulate. You'd need to find a clause that says that it isn't.
"Why even bother voting for the President?"
1. We're not supposed to, actually. The EC does. Caesarism terrified both the framers and anti-federalists.
2. Why vote for sheriff? Or prosecutor? Or county judge? Because we want to control who's doing the job. Not because we want him to be able to be beyond the control of the laws.
I'm still trying to figure out italics, I apologize.
Leaving the EC aside, executive candidates are discernible from one another by attributes such as, "energy and dispatch," as Hamilton put it. It may please the jointly sovereign electorate to judge one presidential candidate better endowed with such executive attributes than another.
That question is for the people alone to decide. Even their own Constitution cannot properly constrain them from exercise of that power. Thus, neither can the Court. See founder James Wilson, on the subject of the limits of, "positive institutions," among which he numbers the Constitution itself.
When Biden fired Trump appointees, the narrative was, "Biden purging government of Trump loyalists." When Trump fires Biden appointees, the narrative is, "Trump politicizing the government."
These are ultimately personnel decisions, and it is hardly a controversial notion that any President should get to pick his own advisers and aides in carrying out his policies, as opposed to being forced to have advisers and aides actively undermining his policies.
When did Biden fire people without cause who the law said could only be fired for cause?
We're not talking about advisors or aides, though, now are we?
Biden v Spicer
You're welcome! The more you know!
These are ultimately personnel decisions, and it is hardly a controversial notion that any President should get to pick his own advisers and aides in carrying out his policies,
Any such notion depends on an assumption not in evidence—that the policies in question are properly powers of the presidency, instead of powers of Congress. Many of Trump's executive orders purport to overturn Congressional policies and powers, including some which are not to be questioned, such as those implicated by the power of the purse.
Thus, the first question for a court to decide is which kind of policy or power is implicated in the case before it, executive or congressional.
As I noted in the other thread, is this just a drafting guide for Congress? Can it set up any agency like the Fed and claim that it is now independent and exempt from Selia Law?
Or is "monetary policy" a talisman?
Article I, Section 8, Clause 5:
[The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures; . . .
Congress has the power of the purse and the framers of the constitution were well aware of the link between poor fiscal policy and inflation. Congress alone controls monetary policy. There are several very good papers about the differential inflation in the colonies around the 1770 and the depreciation of their various monies (I would have to dig these up).
The power to coin money made it into the Constitution to enforce some fiscal prudence among the states (also ergo: state level balanced budgets). The history and text of the Constitution are very clear.
Now: even supposing the Federal Reserve is an executive agency, they are required to follow the money policy set by Congress by the 1977 amendment to the Federal Reserve Act, to promote maximum employment and stable prices. They do this through interest rates. Reasonable people can debate whether this is the right mechanism (Volker tried targeting the money supply, that proved ineffective).
I could be persuaded that the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) is an "enforcement" committee, more like an executive agency--provided they are following the monetary policy mandated by congress.
You are correct, but I don't see the point. Congress has the power to pass laws on monetary policy or the price of a drink at a national park snack bar. The executive makes sure those things happen.
This sophistry over why the Fed is different has yet to be plausibly stated other than to rephrase what the Fed does.
The difference here is that Congress has been given the explicit power over money, not merely to pass laws about money, and that takes precedence over any implicit or general power a president has as head of the Executive. Hence it is a legitimate constitutional exception.
I'm not seeing the distinction. Congress exercises its power by passing laws and in no other way.
That's begging the question.
According to the actual text, Congress has general legislative powers, but S8 specifically gives them some additional powers. I grant it is commonly interpreted that to the president is delegated to the power to execute the laws that Congress passes, but the text is at variance with that in some specific cases. The wording of S8 undermines unitary executive theory. The most reasonable interpretation is that for these powers, Congress retains control over the process and the executive is bound by how Congress wishes its powers to be exercised. As I said, I grant this is not how things are normally understood.
Imagine you have an in-house messenger service for special mail and the firm specifies that the messenger service's job is to deliver special mail. Case 1: the firm rules are that all special mail is to be handed to the messenger, who has the responsibility to deliver it. Case 2: the firm rules are that all special mail is to be handed to the messenger who is to deliver it according to the instructions received from the person who mails it. The two cases are clearly not the same.
Again, I can be persuaded that the FOMC is an executive function, except that the President (Treasury) cannot set rates wherever they want just as they cant spend whatever they want. By setting interest rates, they de facto set inflation and therefore tax rates. If they were to set rates to zero today, inflation would explode.
If the FOMC becomes an executive agency, Congress will have to come up with a more definitive rule for interest rates. (Google Taylor rule)--the existing Federal Reserve Act would be an impermissible delegation of authority.
It is not a Constitutional exception. It is an explicitly stated power of Congress, not of the President.
Whether or not the Court's obiter dicta on the Federal Reserve was "plausible" or "reasonable", it was not relevant to the case at hand. I suspect it was just an advisory opinion directed at Trump, who has at times made noise about firing the chairman and maintaining more direct control over the Fed. I believe Ttump has the power to do so, as would, of course, any future President, be he a Democrat, Republican, or otherwise. The views of the extent of presidential power from some of the co-bloggers here, not to mention the commentariat, seem to vary depending on their level of approval they hold for whoever the current President happens to be.
The unified executive theory is fascist bullshit that has no textual basis in the Constitution while there are textual reasons that it is wrong. Fuck SCOTUS for helping Trump become a dictator. Government agencies need stability and professionals, not political lackeys.
Government agencies need stability and professionals, not political lackeys.
As long as people question the competence of professionals, there will always be people who will purport to solve that by hiring incompetent but loyal amateurs
You wouldn't recognize a real fascist if one was throwing you into an oven.
Your belief that among government, the people with power over us, must be a class of "professionals" and "experts" who are unaccountable to the great unwashed masses and their chosen representatives is closer to "fascist bullshit" than the unambiguous words about executive power in the Constitution.
(As authoritarian and anti-democratic as your notion is, people might actually but what you're trying to sell if the "experts" and "professionals" had, by and large, not exhibited such an incredible degree of incompetence the last few decades, seemingly increasing exponentially in recent years, but that is a debate for another day.)
This! Thank you.
Fascists were certainly not fans of a civil service with some independence based in adherence to standards of professionalism. They were very big on allegiance to the Party and its leader.
Your belief that among government, the people with power over us, must be a class of "professionals" and "experts" who are unaccountable to the great unwashed masses and their chosen representatives is closer to "fascist bullshit" than the unambiguous words about executive power in the Constitution
F.D. Wolf — Your argument amounts to insistence that "unambiguous," executive power gets Court deference, while, "unambiguous," legislative power can pound sand. That is not American constitutionalism.
"The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America." Article II, 1.1.
"he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed"
Explicit enumerated duty to execute the law overrides the generic preamble statement you quoted. That line does not mean the President is above the law.
He executes as the law bids him, with the tools the law allows him.
True, that's there, and very relevant.
But, on the other hand, "the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments." I think this implies the President doesn't necessarily have every inferior officer in the executive branch serving at his pleasure.
If you are worried about the size and scope of the President's power then the solution is to reduce the size and scope of the executive branch.
Or the President could follow the law. What a novel concept.
Sorry, Kazinski was right the first time.
Your problem here is that Trump is somewhat following the law. The law that delegated these decisions to the executive. As the appeals courts are slowly sorting out in his favor.
You don't get to have this authority delegated, then try and pretend that judges can prevent it being used in ways liberals don't like.
Delegated defeasibly. The Constitution is unclear about removal, but early presidents successfully asserted an implied authority to remove. That doesn't mean law can't regulate removal, and laws have been passed that have.
As for the authority to direct people, the president has that if delegated by statute. E.g. the acts creating Sec of Foreign Affairs and Sec of War gave the president authority to direct. Other Acts contain no such language, including those creating Treasury and the AG.
Not fascist. Not bullshit. Literally the first sentence of Article II.
It's Congress that has enabled Trump to be a "dictator", by it's delegating authority to the executive branch since the New Deal (or should I say the Wilson administration?)
If anything, some of us who believe in limited government have wanted SCOTUS to reign that in, but have been ridiculed for asserting the "ridiculous" major question and non-delegation doctrines...by people like you. Because you wanted the right people to be able to make our society more equitable, without interference. Expert management class! Never considering what might happen when it was controlled by people you disagree with.
Look in the mirror. Go fuck yourself!
MaddogEngineer — Your insistence is that the Constitution dictates certain policy outcomes, which happen to be the ones you prefer. American constitutionalism insists the contrary—that the jointly sovereign people remain at liberty to establish any kind of government it takes, by any means they can manage, to achieve the government outcomes they jointly prefer. In that power, the people are not constrained even by their own Constitution. The government is not sovereign, the Constitution itself is not sovereign, the People are sovereign.