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The First Significant Lawsuit Challenging Biden's Student Loan Forgiveness Plan [Updated]
It was filed by Pacific Legal Foundation public interest lawyer Frank Garrison, and includes a novel strategy for getting around the problem of standing.
Earlier today, Pacific Legal Foundation (PLF) public interest lawyer Frank Garrison filed the first meaningful lawsuit challenging President Biden's loan forgiveness plan, which the Congressional Budget Office estimates would cost some $400 billion. PLF, a libertarian-leaning public interest firm that is also my wife's employer, is representing Garrison.
The Biden Administration Office of Legal Counsel argues that the loan forgiveness plan is authorized by a provision of the 2003 HEROES Act, which gives the Secretary of Education the power to "waive or modify" federally funded student debt obligations of borrowers whose ability to pay off the debt has been undermined by a war or national emergency (in this case, the Covid-19 pandemic). For reasons I outlined in a previous post, the Biden plan goes far beyond what the statute authorizes, and is also at odds with the "major questions" doctrine and nondelegation constraints on executive power. The situation is similar to Donald Trump's attempt to use emergency powers to usurp Congress' spending power to divert military funds to build his border wall (which, for the record, I opposed at the time; see here, here, and here). PLF's just-filed complaint on behalf of Garrison advances the statutory authorization, major questions, and nondelegation arguments.
Most interestingly, Garrison has a novel strategy for getting around the problem of standing, which many experts see as the biggest potential obstacle to a successful legal challenge to the loan forgiveness program. As I explained in an earlier post on this issue, current Supreme Court precedent requires plaintiffs in federal cases to prove "standing," which includes demonstrating that they have suffered or are likely to suffer an "injury" because of the law or policy they are challenging. Importantly, that injury cannot be based merely on the plaintiff's status as a taxpayer who will have to bear the fiscal costs of the new government program. The Washington Post has a helpful description of how Garrison can fulfill this requirement:
The argument [made by PLF] is in line with other objections to Biden's plan, but the foundation may have the one thing legal experts said was needed to make a legitimate case: a client with the standing to sue.
Garrison said he has been working toward having his federal student loans canceled through a program that erases the debt of public servants after 10 years of payments and service. Participants in that Public Service Loan Forgiveness program do not have to pay federal or state taxes. However, Biden's plan could result in borrowers in several states, including Indiana [where Garrison lives], being required to pay local tax bills.
The plan would cancel up to $10,000 in federal student loan debt for borrowers who earn less than $125,000 per year, or less than $250,000 for married couples. Those who received Pell Grants, federal aid for lower-income students, could see up to $20,000 in forgiveness.
Since Biden's plan would take effect before Garrison's debt is forgiven through the public service program, Garrison said he expects to pay more than $1,000 in state income taxes for the $20,000 of forgiven debt.
In sum, Garrison qualifies for standing because he (and at least some other participants in the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program) actually stand to lose money as a result of the administration's plan. And that loss is specific to their situation, and not just a result of their general status as federal taxpayers.
This strategy strikes me as sound. It may seem silly that a plaintiff can get standing based on a relatively small financial loss like this one, but taxpayers as a class are not allowed to get it based on the vastly greater fiscal liability Biden's plan saddles them with, collectively. But that kind of silliness is built into the Supreme Court's standing precedents, which allow standing based on even a very small individualized material harm (as little as $1 will suffice!), but deny it even for very large fiscal impacts imposed on taxpayers as a class. If you think this is ridiculous, I agree! In my view, the entire doctrine of standing is extremely dubious, and the Supreme Court should abolish it. But that isn't likely to happen anytime soon.
Under current standing doctrine, it also does not matter if forestalling the relatively small financial loss he stands to suffer is not Garrison and PLF's true motive for bringing the case. Public interest firms and other litigants routinely bring cases whose primary purpose is to set a more general precedent rather than to mitigate the damages suffered by a specific client. When it comes to standing doctrine, the plaintiffs' motives for filing a lawsuit are irrelevant, so long as they do in fact have an "injury" of the right type.
Should the PLF/Garrison lawsuit prevail on the merits, there is likely to be a legal battle over how broad the resulting injunction should be, whether it should be a nationwide injunction against the entire loan cancellation program (as the complaint requests), an injunction limited to a particular geographic area or category of loan recipients (such as people in the same situation as Garrison), or one narrowly focused on Garrison as an individual. In my view, nationwide injunctions are justified in cases like this, where the program being challenged is illegal for reasons that are uniform across the country. But many people - including some conservative judges and legal scholars - disagree.
I expect this will not be the only lawsuit filed against the loan forgiveness program. In an earlier post, I described three other categories of litigants who could get standing to challenge it. We might also see lawsuits by others in the same situation as Garrison.
In addition to citing the 2003 HEROES Act as authorization for the loan cancellation policy, the Biden Administration could also potentially rely on a provision of the 1965 Higher Education Act. I criticized that theory here.
Today's filing is probably just the beginning of what is likely to be a prolonged legal battle over the legality of Biden's massive loan forgiveness plan.
NOTE: As indicated above, the Pacific Legal Foundation - the public interest firm litigating this case - is my wife's employer, as well as Garrison's. She, however, is not involved in litigating this specific case. I myself have played a minor, unpaid role in urging PLF to take on this issue, and sharing my ideas about the case with them. Garrison's novel strategy for gaining standing was not my idea, however.
Those inclined to claim that I am only interested in this case because of narrow self-interest should note that I also was an active opponent of Donald Trump's similar abuse of power in the border wall funding diversion policy and that, as a university professor, I actually stand to benefit if Biden's policy goes forward. For fairly obvious reasons, universities - and their faculty - are likely beneficiaries of loan forgiveness policies that essentially subsidize the consumption of our services.
UPDATE: It may be worth noting that, as the complaint explains (see pg. 7), Garrison is part of a group of 8 million borrowers for whom loan forgiveness under the administration plan will be automatic. So he cannot avoid it merely by choosing not to apply for it.
UPDATE 2: It turns out there was an earlier lawsuit challenging the loan forgiveness program, filed by an Oregon resident. This lawsuit has little or no chance of getting to merits, because, among other things, the plaintiff has no chance of getting standing. Nonetheless, it did come earlier than the PLF case, and I have adjusted the title of this post accordingly.
UPDATE 3: Since I wrote the above post, the White House has said there will be an opt out from loan forgiveness for any otherwise eligible borrowers who want it. However, the administration has not actually put forward any opt-out plan for the 8 million , or explained how it will work. When and if the administration puts out an actual opt out plan, we will know more about whether it can defeat standing in this case, or not.
UPDATE 4 (September 30, 2022): I have addressed more recent developments in this case in a follow-up post here. Since I wrote the above, another important lawsuit challenging the loan forgiveness policy was filed by six state governments. Their lawsuit has a stronger basis for standing than that filed by PLF. I discuss the state lawsuit here.
UPDATE 5: Oliver Dunford of the Pacific Legal Foundation reminds me that PLF filed an amicus brief supporting one of the lawsuits challenging Trump's border wall diversion, and thus - to their credit - has taken a consistent position on these sorts of issues, regardless of the partisan valence of the particular program in question.
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Biden's proposed plan is wrong on its face and has nothing to do with any other President's abuse of executive action.
” Why spoil the beauty of the thing with legality?” from THE WIND AND THE LION (1975).
How does a voluntary program create an injury?
That's what I'm not getting either. As long as you can opt out, then I am not seeing the harm. (eg, People who win large-but-useless (for them) prizes at charity raffles, on game shows, etc., routinely decline the prizes, due to the desire to avoid having to pay taxes on that would-be second/superfluous washer & dryer set).
Hopefully, Ilya (or others with knowledge) will respond to you here, explaining what you and I are missing. We're obviously not the first people to raise this issue, so it's impossible to believe that the PLF simply overlooked it.
Happens all the time with the HGTV home giveaway. Last time I looked, literally none of the winners took the house because they lacked the liquid funds to pay the taxes they would owe.
The king must be allowed to impose his will without resistance!! Unless the king is of the other party. Fuck that guy.
Prof. Somin specifically explained that. At length.
Michael,
Do you mind explaining? (Seriously; no snark intended.) I simply do not see where Ilya explained it.
If you or I can opt out, then I am not seeing the individual harm. If the named plaintiff chooses to opt out, then (1) he loses the benefit of the loan forgiveness, BUT (2) he then suffers no harm, since there will, of course, be no state or local taxes due, as he has no gained income and therefore has no additional taxes due. What am I (and others) missing?
Being forced to opt out is an injury. Probably less of one than having to pay extra taxes, but an injury none the less.
Are you a lawyer?
Do you have a college degree? A legitimate degree . . . backwater religious schooling at a fourth-tier yahoo factory does not count.
Trifles and minor inconveniences are not sufficient injuries to create standing. There's a Latin phrase about it and everything. The opt-out process would have to be truly byzantine or cost money before a court is likely to consider it as judiciable.
Not quite.
The Little Sisters of the Poor case is a representative example. All they had to do to avoid being forced to cover procedures they disagreed with was "sign a form." A version of an "opt-out". They disagreed with signing the form.
They still had standing.
"If you or I can opt out"
I suppose the question is, what exactly is required to opt out? Right now, it's automatically opt in for people in his situation, and pro-active work is required to opt out. If it requires time and/or money (electricity, stamps, etc) in order to opt out, that is a form of damages as well.
Assume you can opt out. The process for doing that is important. When opting out will you have to acknowledge the underlying debt first? There are many people who are contesting their loans and there amounts. By having to acknowledge the debt when opting out equates to a right given up - the right to contest the debt itself.
I don't know how the opt out provision will be written but this is important.
To a person or individual who is contesting the debt overall to then not contest the write off of the debt, that individual, depending upon the state they live in, now faces a tax consequence of say $1,000.00. That is a big deal because where one is already pressed to avoid collection activities on even a disputed loan, a tax liability is extremely difficult to avoid/contest and as it comes with State Powers to lien property and levy without having to first resort to judicial process.
So there are real consequences to this forgiveness which do translate to standing depending upon your state (i.e. Arizona, California, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia, and
Wisconsin).
I suppose it comes down to the opt out process. Frankly, it is annoying that you have to opt out of something you don't want to begin with.
Taxable income accrues when the debt is forgiven. The debt was forgiven when Biden signed the order.
"The debt was forgiven when Biden signed the order."
Wrong. Borrowers will have the opportunity to opt out if they don't want their loans forgiven.
"That just leaves state taxability as a potential problem in a handful of states. The U.S. Department of Education decided to adopt an opt-out process for automatic student loan forgiveness to address this potential concern. Borrowers are notified that their loans will be discharged automatically unless they exercise their right to opt out of the forgiveness." https://thecollegeinvestor.com/38236/is-automatic-student-loan-forgiveness-legal/
Discharge of debt income occurs when the debt is discharged ie the effective date of the discharge.
Section 108(f) has a temporary provision that student debt forgiven from 2021 to 2025 is excluded from income for federal income tax purposes. Most state income tax laws follow federal law with modifications. Unless a state has a modification specifically to include income excluded under 108, then the student loan forgiveness will also be excluded for state income tax.
Even though the student loan is excluded from income, various tax attributes will be reduced such as any net operating loss carryover, capital loss carryover, tax credits and depreciable basis in trade or business property. For the vast majority tax individuals with student debt forgiveness, the reduction of tax attributes will be very few with the possible exception of capital loss carryovers (most of which will be incurred in 2022 thanks to the collapse of the stock market)
explain what you mean by voluntary.
Do you mean that a person could still pay a debt which is forgiven?
But if it is forgiven, there is no debt to pay. Of coue\rse anyone may voluntarily send a check to the IRS. Is that what you mean?
No, he means that someone can say, "No thank you. I don't want my debt forgiven," and then it won't be forgiven.
It's probably a bit more work than that.
That's the hidden burden in "opt out" systems. The government knows it's more work for people to "opt out," so some people won't do it. That work on its own creates a burden, and some people may object do doing such work.
Not really sure it matters, I think Biden will drop the program like a hot rock after the Democrats take a drubbing in about 6 weeks. And this lawsuit or another will provide the excuse.
Then they will come up with an excuse to blame the GOP, and hope that pays dividends in the next election.
It was all an an election ploy and its not going to pay off, so I doubt they will continue the charade if there is no payoff, especially if there might be a payoff in the future by pulling the rug out and blaming someone else.
Really? Voluntary for who? Maybe define your term?
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Here just to watch those who hated Trump’s manipulative defend the Biden manipulation. And those who defended Trump’s bs rip on Biden’s.
Both were flagrantly illegal, but when the King is wearing their colors nobody cares.
Bevis,
I take it that you have an answer to Sarcastro's earlier question? Can you post it?--If S is confused, and if I'm also confused; then it's reasonable to assume that many others feel the same. Your input would be helpful.
Actually SM, I do have an answer (i think). The taxable income comes when the debt is “forgiven”, not when it’s acted on. So people who have debt will be considered to save $10 or $20k of income due to debt forgiveness in 2022, regardless of when they apply. For state tax purposes.
And of course some states will try to forgive those taxes and some will vigorously pursue them. And there’s the matter of forgiving federal taxes on income for a specific group of relatively wealthy people. There’s gonna be unfairness everywhere you look which is a strange look for an administration that always blabbers about equity.
And it’s like a Full Employment for Lawyers order.
I don't think that's how income is calculated - it's comes from actual realized income, not formalistic theoretical income.
Forgiven debt is taxable income under section 61 of the IRC, unless excluded under section 108. Section 108(f) is a provision effective for years 2021-2025 which excludes from income student loan forgiveness.
Sarcastro’s question has nothing to do with the legality of this program, it has to do with standing of an individual plaintiff. Even if no one has standing, this is a blatantly illegal program which squanders billions of the taxpayers’ money. And Bevis is exactly right — the partisans on both sides will defend their own guy and excoriate the other guy.
SM - I’m sorry I don’t have an answer to that question. Maybe this suit will fail.
I’m here to watch the partisans fail to impose standards and adherence to the rules on their side. Once we’ve done that for a while we’ll convey a meeting to try to figure out why our political system is so broken.
Who exactly are you talking about? Trump forgave student loans (see https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2019/11/23/student-loan-forgiveness-trump-veterans/?sh=4b101fd71a4e) and doing so was popular across the board. I don't recall anyone opposing it. Your histrionic rhetoric about this is completely baseless.
For veterans with severe disabilities. It’s almost exactly the same thing.
You defend this and you shook with anger when Trump pulled his illegal stunt. You know what that makes you, don’t you?
I did nothing of the sort. I supported loan forgiveness when Trump did it (one of the very few decent things he did), and I supported it when Biden did it (also one of the relatively few decent things he's done). And, for what it's worth, the overwhelming majority of people are with me on this. Your talk of student loan forgiveness being some dictatorial crushing of resistance are the ravings of a madman.
You’re a drama king or queen.
Where did I say anything about crushing resistance?
Biden did something he couldn’t do without a bill from congress. Trump did too as to his precious wall. Notice you haven’t discussed your thoughts about that one.
"Where did I say anything about crushing resistance?"
Right here: "The king must be allowed to impose his will without resistance!! Unless the king is of the other party. Fuck that guy."
And the reason I haven't discussed the wall is that its utterly irrelevant. If you're going to charge someone with hypocrisy for supporting Biden doing loan forgiveness, the proper comparator would be the time Trump did loan forgiveness, not when he did something else completely unrelated to loan forgiveness.
Alright. The comparison is major policy changes without necessary congressional approval. The fact that you are favorably inclined toward one doesn’t matter. Your blessing doesn’t matter.
And you’re intentionally avoiding the wall bs because you’re trying to hide your hypocrisy. You don’t care about rules. You just want to win.
And saying someone is acting like a king has nothing to do with crushing anyone.
You don’t argue very honestly, huh?
Your assertion that further congressional approval beyond the heroes act is needed is question-begging. Your charge of hypocrisy assumes that all agree with you on that question.
I, for one, do not agree. And that has nothing to do with my views on the wisdom of the policy.
"You’re a drama king or queen"
She always has been one for the Left
Sure, everybody loves welfare, even welfare for the rich. That's why your side loves paid parental leave so much.
I mean, yes, unironically. I do support universal welfare programs to cover the basics without means testing. If that results in Elon Musk being sent a $250 child care check every month, so be it (it will come back in taxes anyway). And of course, I, like over 70% of the country, support paid parental leave.
But what all this has to do with a student loan forgiveness program (which IS means tested, by the way) is . . , what exactly??
Are you for real? = I do support universal welfare programs to cover the basics without means testing. If that results in Elon Musk being sent a $250 child care check every month, so be it (it will come back in taxes anyway).
Seriously, where does UBI (as you articulate it with no means testing whatsoever) work anywhere in the world today? North Korea?
"According to reporting from Politico, the U.S. Department of Education suspended hundreds of millions of dollars of automatic student loan forgiveness for veterans with severe disabilities."
that criteria met the requirements for forgiveness
Read your own article doofus.
What Trump did was remove redtape from an existing discharge program. Because the government sucks at everything, he was just trying to make it suck a little less.
That's not at all similar to what Biden and only complete nimrod know-nothings thinks they are.
There was also an opt-out option from the beginning, and it was very clearly communicated from the beginning. Know-nothing is being generous when describing this level if bias and ignorance.
Arguing that a program that makes you only $19,000 better off instead of $20,000 somehow creates an "injury in fact" certainly is . . . "novel." I'll give Somin that. Mostly because it's too stupid for someone to have tried before.
I still don't see how they get around the Clapper rule that a plaintiff can't manufacture their own injury to create standing. If Mr. Garrison wishes to avoid the $1,000 Indiana tax, he can simply not sign up the loan forgiveness program.
Injury is laughable in this context. The purpose was to stop a million pissants from tying up every law in court, not to stop concerned citizens from making the government justify the president cavalierly spending more dollars than WWII, pre-inflation.
"Where's the controversy? Pay no attention to that small moon about to ram into Earth."
My bad, I forgot about the "policies Krayt really doesn't like" exception to the taxpayer standing bar.
It's really sad that you rely so much on the "due to a technicality, nobody can actually sue over this act that every serious person recognizes as blatantly illegal" argument.
Do you have a cite to a single serious person who thinks it is “blatantly illegal.” I’ve not seen one. Much as I disagree with him, I would acknowledge Somin is a serious person, but I don’t think he’s said there is anything blatant about it, but rather that it’s a tough case.
And my complaint is why the hell the president spending $400 billion on his own whim "is a tough case" for lawsuit for legal review!
It's a grotesque misuse of the concept to even suggest it is reasonable to disallow it.
I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what this policy is. The president is not spending a dime, let alone $400 billion. Maybe if you learned the basics of what the policy does, you wouldn't be so angry about it.
And it was not done "on a whim." He specifically ran on the promise of forgiving student loans and won.
No. He is currently eligible to have $20,000 forgiven without having to pay state income tax under a different program that is tax free in his state. If (and this is the big if), the mere entrance of the Biden order forgives that $20,000 and he can't opt out, then he is worse off by the amount of the tax he now has to pay -- $1,000 in taxes vs. $0 in taxes.
What I don't understand is how his debt is forgiven if he doesn't apply for the forgiveness, i.e., he elects not to opt-in to the program.
" He is currently eligible to have $20,000 forgiven without having to pay state income tax under a different program that is tax free in his state."
Ok, this makes sense if it's true, though I doubt that such a program exists. If he's referring to PSLF or something like that, he'll still pay way more than $1,000.
"What I don’t understand is how his debt is forgiven if he doesn’t apply for the forgiveness, i.e., he elects not to opt-in to the program."
This is the rub, I think. My understanding is that he has the opportunity to opt out, as discussed here: https://thecollegeinvestor.com/38236/is-automatic-student-loan-forgiveness-legal/
“I doubt such a program exists
He represented that as a fact in his filing. Are you saying that you think his lawyer lied about a very public fact to a court? Sure, that’s what happened.
He alleged that he participates in the PSLF program. That program still requires a monthly payment, usually several hundred dollars.
My point is that he will pay more than $1,000 in those monthly payments. I doubt that his lawyer alleged otherwise, but if he did, then yes, he lied.
See below.
Read again. It doesn't make him better off at all, because his loans are already going to be forgiven under PSLF.
Except that he will still end up paying more under PSLF than $1,000 before his loans are forgiven.
Given that he expects to have an outstanding balance forgiven under PSLF, he will pay the same amount in loan payments under PSLF, regardless of whether the forgiven balance is $1 or $1,000,000.
Assuming further that the forgiven balance is equal to or greater $20,000, the Biden forgiveness will have no effect on the amount of loan payments made. But it will cause him to pay more tax if the Biden forgiveness is taxable while the PSLF forgiveness is not.
Except that that’s not how PSLF works, at all. If his balance goes down, his monthly payments go down. If his savings are greater than $1,000, I don’t see how he has standing.
But regardless, he loses for that alternative reason that the program is voluntary, and a plaintiff cannot manufacture standing by inflicting injury on himself. If he wants to avoid the $1000 tax payment, he can decline loan forgiveness. Simple.
Wrong. It's exactly how PSLF works.
There is no repayment plan where monthly payments go down as balance goes down.
PSLF itself has no bearing on payment amounts. It is just a forgiveness program that wipes out all remaining debt after 120 qualifying monthly payments. These "payments" can be as low as zero dollars under an income driven repayment plan (IDR) and they still count. (If your work doesn't count as "public service," all federal student loans are forgivable in the same way, but after 20 or 25 years of qualifying payments instead of 10 years).
Qualifying payments are just payments under a repayment plan. Repayment plans include standard 10 year schedules, or a few different IDR plans. It is just based on your income. Total annual payments are set at 10-15% of "discretionary income," which means AGI in excess of 1.5x the poverty level for the family size.
I agree the ability to opt out poses a challenge to standing here.
I'm not sure the "opt out" clause is an issue for standing.
Requiring a person to "opt out" requires work and affirmative action on their part, with potentially fiscal resources required as well in order to "opt out". Notably, when Little Sisters of the Poor objected to the "opt out" paperwork in the Obamacare contraception cases, it still went forward.
But to put it in more concrete terms, imagine instead of this program, Biden wrote an executive order that said "The FBI and Treasury department is hereby ordered to seize $1,000 from every American's bank account". No legal justification used, no law passed, just something blatantly illegal. There would be no question in such a case that there were damages. Now imagine the same but Biden puts an "opt out" clause in, where if people file the proper paperwork (defined by the administration, still not by law), then the Treasury department wouldn't seize their money.
Would anyone have "standing" in such a case? Or is the argument made that when your money is seized (again, illegally) "well you should've opted out".
The only rule of standing is: the court wants to hear it.
You're right, of course. But the plaintiff still needs some sort of pretense in order to give the court cover. Novel strategies are so much the norm nowadays because plaintiffs know, if the subject matter has conservative appeal, that any crazy theory of standing will work.
The feds need to get out of the education business completely and absolutely.
Good luck with persuading anyone beyond a narrow fringe of disaffected, antisocial, anti-government cranks to support that.
Most Americans like a modern, educated, successful society. If you don't think so, you're probably spending your time with worthless, obsolete losers.
I think the problem here is one of basic economics. If there exists an essentially endless supply of money for something, in this case student tuition assistance, costs will rise exponentially to take in that money. Eliminate Federal tuition assistance and loans, and a college education will become much more affordable to far more people who have the potential and desire but not the means.
I question President's Biden actions and would like a more comprehensive plan to address postsecondary education debt. That said I do see the debt forgiveness as being popular, especially with young people. Many programs do or have existed that have helped older Americans, I think many young people see this as helping their age group and so see debt forgiveness as their share of the pie.
I think you are therefore correct that resistance to college debt forgiveness may be as popular as repealing Roe.
I was referring to the dumbasses who want government to abandon education.
Opponents of America's system of public education are un-American, lousy people.
Mr. Bumble: "The *feds* need to get out of the education business completely and absolutely."
Rev: "I was referring to the dumbasses who want government to abandon education."
Your reading skills suck. Probably worth remembering the next time you think of referring to others as dumbasses.
I only stated my opinion and am not trying to convince anyone.
I didn't know that you were plugged in to the opinions of most Americans but our current society hardly seems modern, educated or successful.
Being modern would indicate a society that was providing basic needs (like reliable power and a health establishment that actually provide accurate information) instead of brownouts and blackouts and promoted false information about a novel disease.
Being educated does not mean spending large sums of money for a degree and working as a bartender before managing to get elected to congress.
Being a successful society is not one in which the ruling political party works to cast political opponents as "semi-facists".
This country was modern, educated and successful long before the Department of Education came along, rising from a mostly rural, agricultural state to become the most successful and powerful country on Earth, but since the 70s has been moving backward.
" our current society hardly seems modern, educated or successful "
The opinion of disaffected, un-American dumbasses who deserve everything they have suffered and what is still to come in the culture war.
I'll take "What are 3 things the people in government can't achieve for $1000, Alex".
This is why modern, better Americans are marginalizing, rejecting, and replacing people like you.
Maybe you should buy a small, off-the-grid cabin in some desolate, can't-keep-up state and mutter about 'all of this damned progress, science, reason, diversity, education and inclusiveness' as much as you like until . . . well, you know.
Until you get mugged by some Diverse then slip on some classic Democrat street shit and then wait 20 hours in a government ER?
Cultural enrichment!
For profit colleges wouldn't exist without government money in play. That's probably better for everyone;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJl0XuDKSjc
This is NOT "loan forgiveness" as the corporate owned, democrat controlled, liberal media is trying to spin your daily propaganda. This is a BAILOUT for indoctrination centers that have historically bilked hundreds of thousands of young people out of money in the form of a "loan" to finance their continued operations.
If this was any other corporation or industry, the left would object to the predatory practices and taxpayer funded subsidy. However, since these are wholly owned subsidiaries of the party they see no problem in bilking the taxpayer to fund their existence.
What people miss is that student debt forgiveness was already passed by Congress. Trillions are already written into law.
Yes, the whole program is just highway robbery - trillions of dollars taken from the American people and funneled straight into the coffers of leftist academia.
Time to end the sham and close up leftist indoctrination centers. They can compete on the open market if their services are so valuable, or as good as liberals like to suggest the political indoctrination services are to the general public.
People like you can rant and sputter, and people like the Volokh Conspirators can complain a bit more coherently and nip at the mainstream's ankles and heels, as much as you like, but better Americans will continue to kick your asses at the marketplace of ideas and shape our national progress against your stale, bigoted, ugly, unpopular preferences.
Conservative-controlled campuses are, in general, unfit to be mentioned in the same sentence as our strongest research and teaching institutions, many of which are magnificent public institutions.
They ought to be even more magnificent after sucking down trillions of tax dollars.
How many ways is this dumb? "Corporate owned" media? As opposed to what? Were you under the impression that Fox, OANN, and Newsmax were organized as sole proprietorships?
Also, were you under the impression that student loan payments were paid to universities? They're not. So how does it "bail out" universities?
Useless strawman attack followed by a thorough failure to understand how the student loan system works and encourages a certain type of consumer behavior via public subsidy and coercion.
Got anything real or do you want to finally just leave the adult stuff up to us adults?
Prof. Somin, you shouldn't have quoted the Washington Post story in such detail while leaving out the 2 paragraphs that call the standing theory into question:
'When asked about the lawsuit Tuesday, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters that “anyone who does not want to get debt relief can opt out.”'
'The vast majority of eligible borrowers will have to apply for debt cancellation when the Education Department releases the form next month. About 8 million people, whose income information is already with the department, may receive automatic relief. But they don’t have to accept it.'
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If Mr. Garrison doesn't want to take the money, he won't have any increase in taxable income.
"can opt out."
In other words, POTUS can force a positive action on citizens.
Mr Garrison prefers to stay in and litigate. That is also his right.
Antisocial jerks on the wrong side of history and the losing side of the culture war have rights, too.
Not in federal court, it isn't.
This illustrates the problems with national injunctions pretty well. For the vast majority of student loans, there will be no case or controversy about the legality of the program, and thus no basis for the courts to grant relief.
As others have noted the opt out presents a difficulty.
Would a plaintiff that doesn't qualify for the Biden forgiveness have standing?
Another route could be injury by contributing to rising tuition costs. As Somin notes, "For fairly obvious reasons, universities—and their faculty—are likely beneficiaries of loan forgiveness policies that essentially subsidize the consumption of our services."
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That is precisely why tuition costs have skyrocketed over the last 30-40 years. The extensive amount of funding available for education - always meant to subsidize the education industrial complex,
Look at something like Khan Academy.
Educational credentials could be offered at less than 1/10th the price, with all of the same or better verification that hard subject material was learned.
Other countries do this, in fact.
The people who decry the US healthcare system should look at the even worse value-for-money proposition of the US postsecondary education system. (And arguably the whole thing, not just postsecondary.)
If that is true, why don't conservatives -- instead of incessantly whimpering about how bad Ivy League, land grant, and other liberal-libertarian mainstream schools are -- build some strong, inexpensive schools for profit, civic value, and some sorely needed talking points in the culture war?
Instead, conservatives operate innumerable shitty, nonsense-teaching, censorship-shackled schools with low reputations, downscale students, unaccomplished faculties, and sketchy accreditation. Why?
(Conservatives know the answer. They just don't have the character to acknowledge it.)
Bari Weiss and others are doing exactly that, Arthur. Stay tuned. = If that is true, why don’t conservatives — instead of incessantly whimpering about how bad Ivy League, land grant, and other liberal-libertarian mainstream schools are — build some strong, inexpensive schools for profit, civic value, and some sorely needed talking points in the culture war?
It will take time. Mostly, the time will be taken up getting accreditation.
Would you favor a change in the federal student loan program making colleges pay for defaulted loans?
The higher education system operates on credentialism, and is more interested in credentialism and signaling than education.
With these hierarchies predating the founding of the nation, institutions can comfortably cling to their monopolized corners of the prestige credential market for a very long time, even if they are hollow shells that have been skin suited by out of touch radical leftists.
Like anyone else, institutions of higher education will charge the maximum price they can get for their product or service. Unlimited federal money disguised as "loans" that don't require repayment allows them to charge 10x what could be charged for a piece of paper and some learning of information that is all publicly available. It's certainly possible, with today's technology, to return to a time like the boomers had in one specific way, where a student pays for tuition with a summer's wages.
I'm not focused on conservative vs liberal here, just commenting on the economics. The solution to this problem is really simple. The only way to stop giving academia trillions of federal tax dollars is to stop giving academia trillions of federal tax dollars. There's really nothing else to do about it.
“You wasted $150,000 on an education you coulda got for $1.50 in late fees at the public library.” -- Good Will Hunting
I hope you aren’t advocating White Supremicist testing regimes.
Obviously testing for comprehension and knowledge retention is a non starter.
"For fairly obvious reasons, universities—and their faculty—are likely beneficiaries of loan forgiveness policies that essentially subsidize the consumption of our services."
Maybe it benefits universities in the short term but I don't see how it benefits faculty (unless it's not a research institution).
"The situation is similar to Donald Trump's attempt to use emergency powers to usurp Congress' spending power to divert military funds to build his border wall "
As I recall, Trump pursued the border wall as illegal immigration was peaking, (Though admittedly far below the levels the Biden administration has since engineered.) which was widely seen as an emergency by people who didn't favor open borders. I can see, though, why you'd not consider something you wanted an emergency, no matter how man people opposed it.
And he spent the military money on a classic military use, defensive border fortifications, perfectly related to the declared emergency. So, I think he actually was in a pretty solid position as far as the National Emergencies Act, which leaves deciding whether an emergency exists up to the President, not random law professors. (Which is not to defend the NEA, which I think should be repealed, or at least vastly modified.)
On that basis, of course, Biden is just as entitled to declare Covid a national emergency even as life returns to normal, as stupid as that may be. But paying off student loans doesn't seem to fit into the terms of the NEA, even it isn't THAT stupid.
Yes, but Somin cares more about open borders than logic.
“Indiana [where Garrison lives].”
So there actually might be some jurisdictional discovery on this.
In response to tweets that point out that his PLF page only recently updated his office location from DC to Indiana, PLF indicated that he moved to Indiana in February. He also apparently only recently updated his LinkedIn, (unclear if he ever updated his Twitter location, I only saw screenshots of that that can’t be way-backed) A few clever commenters noted that his office location on the Indiana attorney rolls was not updated to an Indiana address.
It’s true he also has an Indiana area code phone number and with remote work these days it’s totally possible to live in Indiana but have a DC office as the primary point of contact.
https://courtapps.in.gov/rollofattorneys/attorney/b2349dbf-158b-e611-80ce-005056b35fe5?FirstName=Frank&LastName=Garrison&OrderBy=0&Page=1
But he appeared to use this number on a filing from
When he definitely lived in DC:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/16/16-1466/20250/20171115144145308_16-1466%20tsac%20Cato%20Institute.pdf
Which isn’t surprising because it’s pretty common for people’s original area codes to follow them around now.
Anyway, idk if he lives there or not, but before getting to the constitutional issues the government might be asking for his utility bills.
Indiana is one of those states that requires people to file and pay state income tax if they have any income from Indiana: https://www.in.gov/dor/news-media-and-publications/tax-talk/indiana-individual-income-tax-tips-for-nonresidents/
Well his PLF salary isn’t from Indiana. So he would need to demonstrate residence instead, and indeed that’s what his complaint TRO declaration states. And I think there might be some questions on that given it appears to be a very recent change.
I find it hard to believe that PLF would be so sloppy and unethical as to lie about him having moved to Indiana in February.
But there's another problem for Garrison: what was he doing before February? He's not admitted to the bar in DC or Virginia. UPL?
Smartest comment you've ever made.
"Since I wrote the above post, the White House has said there will be an opt out from loan forgiveness for any otherwise eligible borrowers who want it."
Well, if they can illegally extend loan forgiveness, I suppose nothing stops them from illegally allowing people to opt out of the illegal forgiveness. Once you decide you're not bound by the terms of the law, you're operating outside the lines anyway.
Assuming for the sake of argument that the loan forgiveness is illegal, why on earth is it illegal to allow an opt out? That does not make sense at all. You think an opt out adds to the illegality?
Based on my understanding of the facts, I don't think it is. Garrison does not qualify for standing because his claim is not ripe. Garrison's argument is that he is in a program that will lead to tax-free debt forgiveness, whereas this one is not tax-free. But the key words there are "will lead to." He's not eligible for tax-free debt forgiveness now, and he might not be; that depends on events that may or may not happen over the next several years.
Why can’t he opt out? If he opts out, won’t he retain eligibility for his prefered, non-locally-taxable forgiveness program, and hence remain uninjured?
I mean it’s a nice injury on paper. But is there really an actual injury here?
Does he even have to opt out? Doesn’t the program require you to apply?
Did you bother to read the post (or the linked lawsuit)?
Ok, it was updated.
Assuming that’s so, why couldn’t he get all the relief he is entitled to by obtaining a right to opt out? Why does what happens to other people affect him in any individual way? Why in the world would have standing to go beyond a simple opt-out and invalidate the program as a whole for everyone?
You’re confusing the question of standing with the issue of remedy. If the program harms him, he has standing to challenge it. The appropriate remedy for that harm is a separate question.
However, the government has now confirmed that he can opt-out also — https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1575289694362935298 — which blows up PLF’s too-clever-by-half entire argument.
Sure, but what if he cannot in good conscience file opt-out paperwork due to his sincere religious beliefs?
Taxing someone at a higher rate in no way prohibits the exercise of religious beliefs. As Professor Somin poimts out, the amount of money involved is relatively small. And religious believers hace to pay more as a consequence of following their faith all the time.
Jews can’t get sales taxes struck down because kosher meat is more expensive, thereby subjecting them to higher taxes. People can’t get out of taxes by claiming a religious objection to filing Form 1040.
Crediting them for accurate math (against my better judgment) I still think $1,000 to save $20,000 plus interest is a pretty good deal. But then again, I hate freedom and love tyranny so take that with a grain of salt.
My father always said that where the highest law enforcement failed with Al Capone the tax people got him completely.
Biden was bottom 10 of his law school class but I'm still surprised that he didn't see the automatic tax rules that his forgiveness brings into effect. Lazy and stupid as he has been in the many years I"ve followed him.
"Since I wrote the above post, the White House has said there will be an opt out from loan forgiveness for any otherwise eligible borrowers who want it. However, the administration has not actually put forward any opt-out plan for the 8 million , or explained how it will work. When and if the administration puts out an actual opt out plan, we will know more about whether it can defeat standing in this case, or not."
This is not entirely accurate. The White House also said that they have already affirmatively opted the plaintiff out from the forgiveness program. There's no argument that he still has standing because he is no longer in the program and does not even have to affirmatively opt out to avoid harm. So, even if other similarly situated persons might still have standing, this plaintiff is certainly not one of them. We don't need to wait for anything to know that.
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In the discussion of this program in Congress a representative noted that they had thousands of dollars in Student Loan debt that could be forgiven by the Student Loan Forgiveness Plan.
My question is, Could the forgiveness of a representative's student loan be seen as additional compensation for Congress?
Especially if the plan eliminates the taxability of forgiveness of a Federal and State level.