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Additional Thoughts on the Supreme Court's Covid-19 Mandate Decisions
Assorted observations on yesterday's opinions, what they mean, and what comes next.
The Supreme Court's decisions to stay the Occupational Safety and Health Administration vax-or-test emergency temporary standard yet allow the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services vaccine mandate for covered health care workers to go into force were not particularly surprising. Even though the CMS rule is more stringent in certain respects (in that it does not allow a test-and-mask exception from its vaccination requirement), it was clear from the beginning the OSHA rule represented a more aggressive assertion of agency authority and was thus more legally vulnerable. The Court's 5-4 split on the CMS rule was surprising (at least to me), and gives me reason to wonder whether the vaccine mandate for federal contractors will survive eventual Supreme Court review. Here are a few more observations.
Both decisions relied, in part, on the respective agencies historical practice and understanding of their respective statutory authorities. In the CMS decision, the Court noted the Department of Health and Human Services' "longstanding practice" of imposing conditions on facilities participating Medicare and Medicaid, including conditions that ensure services are provided in a safe and healthy manner. In the OSHA decision, on the other hand, the Court noted that the OSHA ETS was "strikingly unlike the workplace regulations that OSHA has typically imposed." Even when addressing the risk of disease contagion under its broader authority to set permanent workplace standards, OSHA had never sought to enlist employers in pressuring employees to get vaccinated. Under the bloodborne pathogen rule, for instance, OSHA had required employers to make vaccinations available, but did not make them mandatory or otherwise impose additional costs on employees who refused to get vaccinated.
The Court's per curiam opinion in NFIB v. OSHA echoed many of the concerns raised by Chief Justice Roberts at oral argument, particularly the concern that the policy was a White House-driven effort to increase vaccination among the American public, more than an agency-driven effort to enhance workplace safety. While never claiming the Administration's justification for the OSHA ETS were pretextual, the opinion cited Administration statements indicating the rule was more a "public health" measure than a "occupational safety" measure. As the opinion notes, the President himself noted the OSHA rule was part of "a new plan to require more Americans to be vaccinated."
The NFIB v. OSHA opinion referred to the OSHA rule as a "vaccine mandate," even though the rule allowed employers to permit employees to test and mask as an alternative (which is why I try to refer to it as a "vax-or-test" requirement). Interestingly enough, the Court's characterization tracks that offered by OSHA itself, which said its rule required employers to adopt "a mandatory COVID–19
vaccination policy," with an "exception" for those employers who adopt a policy allowing employees to test weekly and wear masks at work. That is, both the OSHA and CMS policies were described by the implementing agencies as imposing vaccination requirements, subject to exceptions, even though the OSHA rule, in practice, gave employers (as opposed to a select group of employees) a ready (if potentially costly) alternative. Did this matter? It is hard to say, but it certainly affected the public framing and debate over the policy.
Justice Gorsuch wrote a separate concurrence in NFIB v. OSHA adopting a more aggressive posture than the Court's per curiam. This separate opinion was only joined by Justices Thomas and Alito, and not by any of the other conservatives. What accounts for the split? One possibility is that the Gorsuch opinion raised constitutional concerns about the breadth of delegation to OSHA that the Court's per curiam largely avoided. While the per curiam's discussion of the major questions doctrine could be understood as reflecting principles of agency law (as in principal-agent relationships and how to construe the scope of delegations from the principal to the agent), Justice Gorsuch framed the doctrine in terms of constitutional avoidance. Wrote Gorsuch: "if the statutory subsection the agency cites really did endow OSHA with the power it asserts, that law would likely constitute an unconstitutional delegation of legislative authority." I suspect the other conservative justices thought such broad pronouncements were unnecessary in this case and that any consideration of constitutional limits on delegation of power to federal agencies should await a case in which the issue is squarely presented.
The fact that six justices were unwilling to read the OSH Act as authorizing this standard, and relied upon major questions considerations to do so, is likely bad news for the Environmental Protection Agency in West Virginia v. EPA, which the Court will hear next month. That case concerns the scope of EPA authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions from power plants, and tees up the major questions doctrine even more directly than did NFIB v. OSHA. If six justices do not think the OSH Act authorizes OSHA to push vaccination on large employers, I think it quite unlikely there will be five willing to uphold the D.C. Circuit's broad construction of EPA's authority under Section 111 of the Clean Air Act. [For more on the potential implications for WV v. EPA, see Dan Farber's comments on Legal Planet.]
As both cases involved stay requests, each case returns to the lower courts for further consideration. Given the language and reasoning of NFIB v. OSHA, the OSHA rule is effectively done, but that does not mean that OSHA can do nothing to address the spread of Covid-19 in the workplace. The Court's opinion goes out of its way to note that OSHA retains the authority to regulate workplace conditions that pose a particular danger of spread. The problem here is that OSHA did not do that with its ETS. Whether the rule applied was determined by the number of employee's on a firm's payroll, not the number of people in a shared workplace, in regular or prolonged contact, or anything else tied to the risk of spread in a given workplace. Thus OSHA was in the position of arguing that its rule was "necessary" to address the "grave danger" of Covid-19 among a 102-person salesforce working at distributed locations with relatively little close contact with one another, but was not "necessary" for a firm with 98 employees on a single shoproom floor.
It is also worth noting that OSHA's authority to adopt permanent standards after notice-and-comment is broader than its authority to adopt emergency temporary standards. So I would not be surprised were OSHA to release a new rule this spring focused on those working conditions in which Covid-19 is likely to pose the greatest risk, and such a rule might well survive judicial review.
One remaining question for the CMS rule will be whether it can apply to all covered facilities. As the Court noted in a footnote to Biden v. Missouri, the statutory language that most clearly supports the vaccine requirement does not apply to some types of facilities covered by the rule, such as end-stage renal disease clinics and home infusion therapy suppliers. This might be the seed for an as-applied challenge, but any such challenge is unlikely to have a major impact. Employees at such facilities represent less than three percent of those covered by the vaccine requirement, and (as the Court noted) the regulation has an express severability provision, so any problem here could not be used to take down the entire rule. For this reason, the Court concluded, there was "no reason to let the infusion-clinic tail wag the hospital dog."
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I have always wondered, but have not see (in my recollection) whether the mandate would have applied to federal workers.
And, if so, could refuse-nicks be summarily fired? Or would that have to go through a grievance process?
I thought federal employees were covered by Executive Order 14943, but they were outside the ambit of OSHA: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/09/14/2021-19927/requiring-coronavirus-disease-2019-vaccination-for-federal-employees
There was some argument whether USPS employees were covered by either one. I recall the answer being that they were covered by one, but I don't recall which.
Can't condition funds for Sanctuary Cities.
Can condition funds for emergency experimental medical treatments.
There are 2 issues here.
1. Conditions on grants to states are addressed by a different standard from private businesses. Because states have sovereignty that they give up when accepting federal money conditionally, the condition has to be explicit. This isn’t the case where private businesses are involved. For private businesses the standard is generally lower.
2. The question of whether statute authorizes a regulation is specific to the language of each statute and regulation, and factors like whether the regulation is consistent with the agency’s regilatory history or other historical understandings is also relevant. This means each question is decided separately on its own measure. Saying that one regulation is authorized by its statute while a different regulation is not is not being inconsistent. Indeed, that happened here. The Medicare regulation was found authorized by its statute, while the OSHA regulation was found not authorized by its.
Why are you dignifying with a response a comment by someone who calls vaccination "emergency experimental medical treatments"?
The biggest issue is this. We're a democracy. Broad, sweeping new decisions like this should be (and indeed need to be) discussed and passed into law by Congress, and signed into law by the President.
They shouldn't be pushed into service by an obscure provision of administrative law that has never previously been even anticipated to be used like this, making a run around the end of the democratic process.
It's an element of fundamental good governance to do things the "right" way and erodes the system of government to do it the "run around" way.
If this is what the Supreme Court thought, they should have ruled thus.
They did not, and this ruling provides little guidance and is bad.
This is exactly what the Court said—some just refuse to hear it.
The Court said: “This may or may not be good policy; we don’t decide that. All we decide is that Congress never gave OSHA the right to do this.” That is a fancy way of saying: “hint hint: get Congress to say it, and you are good.”
The same thing is going to be said in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health: “This may or may not be good policy, it’s not our place to decide. The people decide by what they put in the Constitution. It’s nthere.
"The biggest issue is this. We're a democracy."
Oh, wow. We're a democracy? Who knew! Perhaps you can point me to the part of the Constitution that established a democracy. All I can find in there is some mumbo jumbo about guaranteeing a republican form of government. ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
I find myself concluding that the Court's holding in NFIB v. OSHA ends up being a bit of nose-cutting-to-spite-facing. Since it would seem that a far more burdensome and unpleasant rule, designed to squarely address the workplace hazards posed by contagious diseases like COVID, should pass muster under its reasoning. That is - why couldn't Biden refashion the rule so that it's a mask-and-test-and-ventilate rule, applicable in scenarios where there is a reasonable risk of contagion - with an exception applicable to anyone who (on their own volition) had been fully vaccinated?
Would these obnoxious anti-vaxxers prefer that? Nose jabs every few days, masks at all times, and mandated workplace equipment?
Personally, I don't see the step from the NFIB v. OSHA to the EPA case. Certainly, a Court keen on making "major questions" a real sword against disfavored regulation is likely to invoke it, when it comes to carbon dioxide emissions. But the "major questions" problem for the vaccine mandate is different from the "major questions" problem for the regulation of carbon dioxide emissions. In the former, we're talking about using OSHA as a tool to achieve a broader health policy goal which normally would seem to be beyond OSHA's mandate. But a carbon dioxide emissions rule is squarely focused on what the EPA was intended to do, which was to regulate emissions that could "endanger public health or welfare."
So let's take it a step further. Should OSHA have regulations stating that when someone is sick (regardless of disease) that they should be barred from the workplace? Where do you draw the line?
Common colds? Hangovers?
This was overreach from the start.
The "line" to draw is to be found in OSHA itself. The question is what constitutes a sufficient danger in the workplace. Maybe a hungover pilot shouldn't be flying your plane. Maybe a nurse with the flu shouldn't be helping your elderly mother in a residential care facility.
That is, after all, the Supreme Court's point - you can't implement a vaccine mandate as a workplace regulation. You need to craft something commensurate to the workplace risk. There are situations where a hangover or a cold won't matter. But then there are situations where they could definitely make a difference.
You show your boss in the way you state your question - are all the people hesitant to get vaxxed obnoxious political opponents to you? Of course not. I’ve known a couple of people who were hesitant over a reasonable concern. You’re attributing the characteristics of the noisy few to the entire group, which is shallow thinking and is the biggest reason for the political hatred between the heavily politicized people out there.
That said, yeah, it looks as if a more specifically tailored law would be ok. Too bad workplace safety wasn’t the objective of this regulation. The administration admitted - arrogantly not thinking about what they were saying publicly - that this was a path around Congress to force more people to get vaxxed. OSHA was the tool, not the purpose.
At this point, with the pandemic starting to become endemic, there’s no point in this crap anymore.
Bias. Fucking autocorrect.
Do you think this doesn't betray its own bias?
The only reasonable objection I've seen to getting the vaccine is that it can often put someone out of commission for a day or two with COVID-like symptoms. That can be hard to accommodate for some workers, parents, and other caregivers. But most of the other usual "excuses" don't hold up to any kind of scrutiny, and are offered in bad faith to justify an objection to vaccine mandates.
At this point, with the pandemic starting to become endemic, there’s no point in this crap anymore.
The flu is endemic. We use vaccines to deal with it. So, agreed, let's follow the "endemic" approach.
Do you think this doesn't betray its own bias?
The only bias it betrays is a bias against simple-minded generalization of the sort you're making.
The flu is endemic. We use vaccines to deal with it.
I missed the executive order mandating influenza vaccinations for private business employees. Can you link to it?
No, it betrays a bias of credulity towards objections to the vaccine that are not reasonable. There is nothing "simple-minded" about my conclusion that most anti-vaxxers are being unreasonable. There are few good reasons not to get vaccinated against COVID, just like there are few good reasons not to get vaccinated against the flu.
Is there a reason that would be relevant?
I'm not talking about some universe where the federal government mandates flu vaccines. I'm talking about how we actually try to fight the flu every season, which is: doctors tell their patients to get vaccinated, we try to make it as easy as possible to get vaccinated, and certain employers (healthcare, residential facilities, etc.) require their employees to get vaccinated. Saying that "COVID is endemic now" doesn't imply: "Now we can ignore vaccinations just like we usually do for endemic diseases." No, it means, "Given that it's endemic, it makes sense that we address it the same way we treat another contagious, endemic, and unpleasant disease that we all know about and that kills thousands of people every year." Which is, you know, a multifaceted and broad-based effort to get people to vaccinate themselves.
No, it betrays a bias of credulity towards objections to the vaccine that are not reasonable.
Given that he didn't cite any specific objection, but you did cite at least one that you consider reasonable (though there are certainly others), it's pretty clear here that you're just making things up to argue against.
Is there a reason that would be relevant?
I'm not talking about some universe where the federal government mandates flu vaccines.
So...you don't see the relevance of a federal vaccine mandate in the context of a discussion about a case about a federal vaccine mandate?
I have been on the internet long enough to recognize a trollish dodge when I see one. He didn't say anything specific about the "reasonable concern" because he didn't want to be forced to acknowledge that the "reasonable concerns" in question might not have been, in fact, all that reasonable. He's setting up precisely the objection you're lodging here. So, I'm not concerned.
Almost all anti-vaxxers are nutters. It's one thing to be against mandates. But you can be anti-mandate while being pro-vaxx.
I don't see how it's relevant to the actual point I was making, which you can find by reading the thread.
Simon, you're ignoring Congress. Remember them? The folks that make the laws? The Senate passed a law in early December forbidding the OSHA mandate. Had no chance of getting past the House or Biden, of course, but is a clear signal that Congress would not approve the mandate.
Given that, the SC has no business approving it. Unless you advocating just dropping down to two branches......
Um, that's not how it works. Either the Occupational Health and Safety Act, passed a half century ago, authorizes the mandate or it doesn't. If it does, it doesn't matter whether today's Congress "would" approve it. If it doesn't, it also doesn't matter whether today's Congress "would" approve it.
We might ask how the Congress that actually did enact the law would have interpreted it. We don't care what some other Congress might hypothetically do if the law didn’t exist and they were asked to enact it.
"If it does, it doesn't matter whether today's Congress "would" approve it."
No, but it does matter if today's Congress would disapprove of it.
https://regulatorystudies.columbian.gwu.edu/congressional-review-act
The Senate resolution was passed under the Congressional Review Act.
Had the House approved the resolution, the OSHA mandate would have been voided and OSHA would be barred from issuing a substantially similar regulation in the future.
The CRA lets Congress veto any regulation by any agency.
Well, no, it doesn't. Not even a tiny bit. It does matter if today's Congress does disapprove of it — not "would" — and the president agrees. A CRA resolution is subject to bicameralism and presentment just like any other law. One not voted for by both Houses of Congress and signed by the president¹ has exactly the same legal force as a tweet by the brand manager at Arby's does.
¹Yeah, if he vetoes it and they override his veto, that counts too.
I have been on the internet long enough to recognize a trollish dodge when I see one.
You certainly seem to be an expert on the use of trollish rhetoric, I'l give you that.
He didn't say anything specific about the "reasonable concern" because he didn't want to be forced to acknowledge that the "reasonable concerns" in question might not have been
So in spite of later noting that you're "not a mind reader" you're claiming to be one here. Which is it?
He's setting up precisely the objection you're lodging here.
I didn't lodge any objection to anything. Are you having an argument with the voices in your head?
Almost all anti-vaxxers are nutters. It's one thing to be against mandates. But you can be anti-mandate while being pro-vaxx.
That's precisely the sort of simple-mindedness that I was referring to. First off, the issue is not being "pro-vaxx" or "anti-vaxx" in general. The issue is in fact vaxx mandates. And having reservations about new vaccines based on a relatively novel medical technology (I'm well familiar with the history of mRNA vaccine research, so don't feel the need to educate me or anyone else on it) is far from "unreasonable". It is MORE than reasonable to factor that into the risk calculus of a personal decision on whether or not to receive a treatment, and in fact it would be irrational to ignore it. And given the number of unknowns involved there is going to be some amount of blind estimation of the risk probabilities involved. (For the record, my wife and I are both fully vaccinated and even boosted, as the totality of all risk factors favored it in our case, but that would not be the case for everyone). As such, it is quite reasonable for some to conclude that, for them, the risks involved favor avoiding the vaccine, even if only until more data on its effects becomes available.
I don't see how it's relevant to the actual point I was making
Then it would appear that whatever point you think you're making is what is irrelevant to a discussion of federal vaccine mandates...which is what this is.
And yet you're able to offer no rational basis for such reservations, apart from pointing to the mere novelty of the technology. If you can offer some explanation, based on the mechanism of an actual mRNA vaccine, for thinking that they could plausibly cause deleterious effects that are not fully or properly understood yet, then I might be persuaded that it would be "reasonable," at least, to consider those unknown but possible effects.
But as it stands, mere novelty and the unknown is not enough. It is always going to be the case, in any year T, that we don't know what the effects of the vaccines will be in year T+1. You have to have some kind of plausible, rational basis for the concern, in order for that concern to be properly rational. Otherwise it's like refusing to eat GMO produce. "But it has pig DNA in it!" And? Connect the novelty to what you think could happen, or GTFO.
"And yet you're able to offer no rational basis for such reservations"
"The technology is new and hasn't been sufficiently tested" is a perfectly rational basis for such reservations.
And yet you're able to offer no rational basis for such reservations, apart from pointing to the mere novelty of the technology.
If you're so cognitively feeble that you're unable to grasp the rational basis for concerns regarding an unproven medical technology then I recommend you find some responsible and reasonably intelligent adult to make all of your decisions for you.
If you can offer some explanation, based on the mechanism of an actual mRNA vaccine, for thinking that they could plausibly cause deleterious effects that are not fully or properly understood yet, then I might be persuaded that it would be "reasonable," at least, to consider those unknown but possible effects.
But as it stands, mere novelty and the unknown is not enough.
You should sit down and write a strongly worded letter to the FDA chiding them for their irrational regulations requiring so much time and money be spent by pharmaceutical companies on testing new drugs to assure their safety and efficacy.
The childish idiocy of your argument cannot be overstated.
Except vaccines don't "deal with" the flu. They don't get rid of it, they don't create herd immunity, and even if every single person was forcefully given it, it wouldn't "deal with" the flu.
I don't know what you think the flu vaccine does, then.
I don't know what you think the flu vaccine does, then.
The things you don't know would appear to be legion. What do YOU think influenza vaccines do?
Since I'm not a mind reader, and I doubt that tkamenick has that many thoughts to know about in the first place, I don't see how this follows.
Are you an algorithm? It seems like you're just responding to keywords with petty insults.
Well, it seems to me that the flu vaccine helps to prevent infection during flu season, and helps to mitigate symptoms where infection occurs. Broadly speaking, this helps to reduce community transmission and lost productivity due to sick-outs. That seems to be about the best we can hope for, given the way that the flu evolves, our ability to develop vaccines to address it, and the rates of vaccination we can achieve through purely voluntary mechanisms.
Now tkamenick was making the point that flu vaccines don't help us to achieve "herd immunity" from the flu, which was part of the hope with the COVID vaccines, at least back when we were focused on OG COVID. As we can now see, that hope was overly optimistic; it didn't anticipate the amount of vaccine resistance there would be, it was based on observed transmission rates that have since been exceeded by Delta and now Omicron, and the worldwide vaccine rollout all but ensures that we'll be dealing with COVID for a long, long time, if not the rest of our lives. But that doesn't mean that vaccines aren't how we "deal with" the flu, or how we'll likely want to "deal with" COVID going forward.
Since I'm not a mind reader
And yet you claimed to be one upthread.
and I doubt that tkamenick has that many thoughts to know about in the first place
That bit of ad hominem snark is pretty funny given that you immediately follow it with...
Are you an algorithm? It seems like you're just responding to keywords with petty insults.
So we can add clumsy hypocrisy to your list of negative character traits.
Now tkamenick was making the point that flu vaccines don't help us to achieve "herd immunity" from the flu
And he was right.
...when we were focused on OG COVID. As we can now see, that hope was overly optimistic; it didn't anticipate the amount of vaccine resistance there would be
~90% of Australia's population is fully vaccinated, and yet they're currently averaging well over 71,000 new infections every day, or a rate of ~277/100K of population. Contrast that with the U.S. where the daily rate of new infections is ~196/100K of population, in spite of a vaccination rate of just under 80%. While there are quite a few other variables involved, your assertion that the goal of herd immunity via vaccine was thwarted by vaccine resistance does not hold water.
You also don't seem to understand that the purpose of vaccines like those against various influenza strains is not herd immunity (which is not possible, for several reasons), but rather reducing the odds of serious impacts on the individuals receiving the vaccines.
"While there are quite a few other variables involved, your assertion that the goal of herd immunity via vaccine was thwarted by vaccine resistance does not hold water."
The idea was to get herd immunity against OG Covid, not against Omicron. (This is not some nuance I'm adding to SimonP's post, just a point that you're ignoring.)
"You also don't seem to understand that the purpose of vaccines like those against various influenza strains is not herd immunity (which is not possible, for several reasons), but rather reducing the odds of serious impacts on the individuals receiving the vaccines."
Seems like a weird thing to say since he just wrote about the main put of the flu vaccine to be exactly this.
The idea was to get herd immunity against OG Covid, not against Omicron. (This is not some nuance I'm adding to SimonP's post, just a point that you're ignoring.)
I'm not ignoring anything, nor did I say anything about which variant(s) anyone intended to achieve herd immunity against. There is no indication that immunization was ever going to achieve that against any of the variants.
Seems like a weird thing to say since he just wrote about the main put of the flu vaccine to be exactly this.
Uh, no...that's quite the opposite of what he's been claiming. You seem to be as lost as he is with regard to the subject at hand, which is general vaccination mandates.
I didn't blame anti-vaxxers for the inability to achieve herd immunity. What I said was that the original COVID "herd immunity" threshold everyone was gunning for was predicated upon a transmission rate that could be kept down with mitigation measures and an assumption that infections+vaccinations would get immunity up high enough to stop the disease.
What happened? Well, we started the vaccine rollout in the last days of the Trump administration, but after Biden was inaugurated the political valences switched - at least for Republicans. That slowed uptake. Then Delta emerged, which was more transmissible than OG COVID and could apparently be transmitted by people who had been fully vaccinated. This pushed the required "herd immunity" threshold pretty high. Meanwhile mitigation measures were being phased out, increasing transmission rates due to more social mixing. And then just recently came Omicron, which can evade our existing vaccines and is even more transmissible than Delta. Aside from the history in the U.S., the emergence of Delta and Omicron overseas also demonstrates the point that herd immunity would have been hard to achieve in any single country, anyway - the virus continues to evolve elsewhere, where it's thriving.
So I'm not solely blaming the anti-vaxxers for failing to reach herd immunity. Certainly, they prevented us from hitting the 70% immunity threshold as quickly as we might have been able to do, had they been more reasonable. But it seems unlikely that even getting there quickly would have done much for us, in the long run, besides saving some lives.
As for the flu vaccine, I quite clearly noted that mitigating flu symptoms among infected people was part of the point of the annual flu vaccine. And, while herd immunity is not part of the goal of the campaign (for several reasons), limiting transmission certainly is. That's why it's mandated in much of the healthcare industry.
But that's all beside the point. I didn't come here to say anything about COVID anti-vaxxers or the flu vaccine. I came here to sarcastically note that the "win" the anti-vaxx mandate crowd achieved in NFIB v. OSHA is technically not what it seems.
But that's all beside the point. I didn't come here to say anything about COVID anti-vaxxers or the flu vaccine.
And yet....
I don’t think that would be acceptable under the OSHA decision. What they said is that OSHA could regulate when workplace-specific conditions make employees more susceptible to infection than the general public. This might occur if the workplace was crowded with people close together, air was poorly ventillated, or other conditions where the workplace itself facilitates the spread of the disease. If that occurs, OSHA could create rules forbidding or ameliorating those conditions.
I don’t think your hypothetical fits that rule.
You're saying that the Court would uphold an OSHA regulation mandating reduced capacity, social distancing, and physical barriers to prevent contagion, but not wearing masks? That seems like an arbitrary distinction.
I agree that the Court's reasoning would require a rule that is more sensitive to the dynamics of infection than Biden's OSHA rule was. It seems likely that an employer that can address contagion risk through measures that eliminate the risk without masking/testing - e.g., working from home, physically separating employees, adding ventilation - couldn't be required to also require its employees to mask/test regularly. But I don't see how the Court's reasoning could be read to preclude any mandates applicable to a person's body, in situations where the physical environment cannot be changed (e.g., a small, crowded restaurant).
the per curium opinion
The regulation must be authorized by statute
The dissent
The regulation is valid as long as the statute doesnt prohibit the regulation.
Lost by the dissent is Congress makes law, not the executive branch.
Neither the majority nor the dissent said ths.
The majority said specific authorization is only needed for major questions, otherwise we still defer to the agency.
The dissent said we always use Chevron deference, thst is, we always defer to the agency when the authorizing statute is ambiguous. But there still has to be a statutory basis for authority. The statute has to at least arguably authorize the regulation as a reasonable construction of the statute. That’s very different from saying all regulations are permitted unless a statute specifically forbids them.
Lost by the dissent is Congress makes law, not the executive branch.
Given Sotomayor's clueless comments/questions it would appear that a great deal was lost on the dissent...or at least her portion of it.
In the upcoming Clean Air Act case, I thought _Massachusetts v. EPA_ already said that CO2 was a pollutant that the agency was obliged to regulate under preexisting statutory authority.
Are you willing to support President Desantis to declare an emergency and start governing through the administrative state?
I see two consequences to the decision:
1. The Major Questions doctrine is now clearly established as a stand-alone rule rather than a mere exception to Chevron deference. In order to give administrative agencies authority over Major Questions, Congress must give that grant plainly.
2. The Court’s 3-3-3 split is even more clearly established. The 3 Justices on the Court’s right seek to revisit not just questions of administrative delegation but questions of federal authority, perhaps seeking to revisit cases like Raich v. Ashcroft and narrow the federal government’s current near-pllice powers. They are also aggressive about it, looking to make their mark even when not strictly necessary to decide the case before them. The 3 middle justices may have some skepticism about administrative delegation, but seem to agree wirh Scalia’s concurrence in Raich that for better or worse it’s too late to undo expansive federal government.
The question of what constitutes a “major question” is still unsettled. These cases may give it some clarity. Being inside or outside an agency’s history of regulation is clearly a factor. But it still pretty much means whatever a majority of the Justices feel really strongly about.
"The question of what constitutes a “major question” is still unsettled."
Yep. As is the case of what constitutes an "emergency". Remember all the caterwauling when Trump diverted emergency money to his wall against the express wishes of Congress.
The line between the balance of power among the branches is always gonna be fuzzy.
As I was reading yesterday's opinions, I could not help but be reminded a bit of Justice Jackson's concurrence in Youngstown. In analyzing a very broad grant of authority in the OSHA case akin to the president's constitutional commander in chief powers, it probably didn't help the administration was acting in the context of Congressional silence at best, or congressional nonacquiescence (a la the senate resolution) at worst.
You mean Gorsuch, Alito and Thomas don't think unelected Bureaucrats can't just mandate away civil rights willy nilly. Imagine that
What civil right?
I think there’s an additional consequence separare from my comment above. The dissent articulated the traditional view favoring the administrative state. Apolitical career experts dedicated to the public interest are better able to determine what’s best for the public than the uneducaated demos and their representatives. For this reason, a system where Comgress passes vague, nice-sounding ststutes and regulators make all the real decisions represents a positive good.
The majority tended to move things towards the opposite view, that having unelected bureaucrats make tbe big decisions is not such a positive good. The concurrence put this far more strongly, saying that regulatory discretion should be disfavored and cabined sharply.
But all 6 members of the majority seem to take the view that gushing, glowing praise for the virtues of having experts decide matters expertly without interference from the ignorant hoi polloi, seems to be to be a think of the past.
Having un-elected bureaucrats who are unanswerable to anyone is never a good thing.
Or have you forgotten about Fauci already?
That could easily be argued the other way. There’s a reason why the US has seen higher death rates than Western industrial countries that listened to their health experts, and states within the US thst followed health expert guidance tended to have lower death rates than states that didn’t. One could argue that a lot of unnecessary deaths maybe isn’t such a good thing as all that.
I feel like this development is the sort of thing only a law professor could love.
I work in a highly regulated area. My bread and butter is a body of regulation and sub-regulatory guidance that could run afoul of an aggressive "major questions" doctrine and other recently-expressed skepticism over rulemaking via sub-regulatory guidance. And maybe a pseudo-libertarian looks at all of that unaccountable rulemaking and says - good! Toss it all out!
But where does that leave us? That leaves us with the bare text of a statute, which would then have to be interpreted and applied somehow. By whom? According to what standard? There's a key concept at the core of what I do that would be blown completely apart if this 3+3 combo spent some time looking at it directly. No one would know exactly the extent of their potential liabilities, or even their responsibilities, under the statute, if that linchpin were removed.
And I have to wonder if much of the regulated sectors of our economy aren't in a very similar boat.
I think the other question I'm concerned about is - okay, fine, the Court cuts back administrative power. But will states be able to step in? It seems to me that the Court may put is in an untenable situation where the agencies can't regulate without statutory approval, but Congress doesn't pass statutes any more, and then preemption is used to block states from trying to bring some sanity to the picture. So, something like: the EPA can't govern carbon emissions without Congress saying so; Congress never says so; and California can't govern carbon emissions because the EPA preempts state law on the subject (or the Dormant Commerce Clause is invoked to stop it).
I just don't know where the rule of law is going from here.
You seem too thoughtful.
" The Court's 5-4 split on the CMS rule was surprising (at least to me), "
Clingers gonna cling, Prof. Adler.
I encourage you to get off the clown car before the predictable trainwreck occurs -- the next stage of the culture war -- and everyone associated with the clingerverse is shunned by educated, relevant, mainstream, modern American society. You deserve better, I think. I also believe you could be a good influence on mainstream debates.
But not if you stick with the clingers.