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Court Can Order Vaccination of Children When Divorced Parents Disagree
From Burch v. Lipscomb, decided yesterday by the Kentucky Court of Appeals (Judge Glenn Acree, joined by Judges Susanne Cetrulo and Jeff Taylor):
Danielle Burch … objected to vaccinating her children based on her religious convictions, while joint custodian Paul Lipscomb … desired that his children be vaccinated….
The parties divorced on June 15, 2018. In accordance with the decree of dissolution, they share joint custody and equal timesharing of their two minor children, aged eight and six. Throughout their marriage, and through the divorce proceedings, the parties agreed to decline required immunizations for their children on religious grounds. They had executed affidavits in New York and Georgia declining vaccinations for their children on religious grounds. On October 12, 2018, after their divorce, both parties executed the Commonwealth of Kentucky's form for declining immunizations on religious grounds.
However, two years later, on June 30, 2020, Father filed a motion for an order permitting him to vaccinate the children. Mother objected, and a hearing was conducted by the Anderson Family Court to resolve the question.
At the hearing, Father testified that he originally agreed not to vaccinate the children because he was leaving for deployment with the military and was unable to meet with the pediatrician. He thought there was an understanding the parties would just delay the vaccines. But, after he finished his military service, he began discussions with Mother regarding vaccinations for the children.
Father stated that when he signed the vaccination declination affidavit he had doubts about the development of certain vaccines by use of aborted fetal cells. Now he believes the use of aborted fetal cells is so far removed from the process of developing vaccines that his concerns no longer exist. He believes it is appropriate to vaccinate the children. He wants to follow the advice of the children's pediatrician to vaccinate.
Mother vehemently objects. She argues doing so violates her firmly held religious convictions opposing the use of aborted fetal cells in the manufacture and design of the vaccines…. Mother argues there was an understanding between her and Father that the children should not be vaccinated and produced multiple documents the parties signed to that effect.
The family court found it was in the children's best interest to be vaccinated. It reasoned that, on balance, the children's health and welfare outweighed the religious beliefs of one parent. The court ordered that the parties consult with the pediatrician to craft a "catch-up" schedule bringing the children current on vaccinations and other immunizations, or, if the parties were able, to agree to alternative vaccines that could potentially be utilized that do not use aborted fetal cells in their development and design….
Citing Kentucky law, Mother argues the family court cannot order "immunization[s] of any child whose parents or guardian are opposed to medical immunization against disease, and who object by a written sworn statement … based on religious grounds[.]" However, Father responds that the statute refers to the plural "parents," not the singular. He therefore argues that when one parent objects, and the other parent does not, the court must decide. We agree because this is in harmony with our family law jurisprudence.
Jurisprudence in this area already takes into account the constitutionally protected rights of parents to raise their children free of undue governmental interference. The cautions and generally applicable safeguards of that jurisprudence embrace Mother's specific claim under the First Amendment to the federal Constitution….
The starting point is that these constitutionally protected "right[s] and liberty interest[s] necessarily exist coterminously, and jointly, in two people—the child's mother and the child's father." Here, we have an impasse between Mother and Father and our jurisprudence addresses such circumstances.
"[A] family court properly exercising its jurisdiction has the inherent ability to 'break the tie' when joint custodians cannot agree." Furthermore, once the courts are involved, "equal decision-making power is not required for joint custody, and parties or trial courts are free to vest greater authority in one parent even under a joint custody arrangement." …
The family court … conduct[ed] the hearing as required, heard testimony from both Mother and Father, and found that it would be in the children's best interest to be vaccinated in accordance with their pediatrician's recommendations and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines. The family court noted that the health and welfare of the children is this "[c]ourt's priority even when balanced against the proclaimed religious beliefs of one parent."
Under analogous circumstances involving First Amendment objections by one parent, this Court reached the same conclusion. Young v. Holmes, 295 S.W.3d 144 (Ky. App. 2009). In Young, as in this case, the family court made an informed decision after a hearing that was based on the children's best interest. We cannot say the family court's factual findings lacked the support of substantial evidence, and we cannot conclude that it made any legal error in reaching its decision….
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At least with divorce, the children aren't exposed to the traumatic experience of quarreling parents!
Jeebus this guy is actually full Schafly.
I decline the compliment, I'm not worthy of comparison with Mrs. Schlafly.
Thank G_d for a sensible judge.
The difference between physicians and lawyers (judges) is that physicians don't think we're lawyers
The judges decision was not that of a physician but a prudential decision as required by law.
Your objection would apply no matter what the judge decided.
Exactly.
The child's pediatrician says the child should be vaccinated. Why should the judge play doctor and override him then?
The pediatrician is not up to date on the science
Children have an extremely low risk with covid
It’s estimated that somewhere between 40-60% of kids already have exposed and/or infected with covid.
While the risk of adverse reactions to the vaccine are extremely low, the risk of adverse reaction to covid is also extremely low for children
We know at this point that natural immunity provides a much broader protection from future infection ( the vaccines only create a partial immune response instead of the broader body immune response)
In summary - vaccinating children is based on an unrealistic fear instead of a rational assessment of the risk from covid
Given the timing of this issue (such as the multiple statements of the parents before they got divorced in 2018), their objection to vaccines had nothing to do with the COVID vaccines.
Joe,
You are the one either not up on the science or misinterpret the science. The children may usually not get very sick, but they are contagious like any other infected person.
The welfare of the child comes first in divorce actions
I am well aware of the current state of the science. That the child is vaxed or unvaxed, he remains potentially infectious, so that should not enter into the equation.
It defies any rational assessment of the risk of covid to vaccinate children, at least with the current 3 vaccines. When a vaccine is developed that works longer ths. 6 months,then ut will become logical to vaccinate children.
Um, no one mentioned COVID19. That's not the issue.
The children have had no vaccinations at all.
Three cheers for the Free Exercise Clause, but "religious liberty" protests are way out of control in the United States.
The First Amendment and RFRA protect religious exercise. #TheReligiousWhite, longtime enemies of the Establishment Clause, have declared that because Jesus directs their every step, EVERYTHING they do is "religious exercise."
Baking a cake...Sure!
Arranging flowers...Sure!
Setting up websites...Sure!
Determining whether couples satisfy government requirements to be foster parents...Sure!
Refusing to conduct the funeral and cremation of a man who prepaid for these services while alive, upon learning he died of AIDS-related ailments...Sure!
Ejecting a women from a taxpayer-funded homeless shelter upon learning she had had an abortion years beforehand...Sure!
These are dangerous days, especially given the most big-mouthed "religious liberty" protestors have abandoned critical thinking and put full faith in their charismatic leader who lies (and lies about his lies) and shouts, "Lügenpresse! Lügenpresse!" to silence dissent and energize his true believers' binary, Manichean thinking.
No, the judge is not required by law to break the tie whenever there is a dispute. The judge could say that he does not have the jurisdiction to micromanage the parents.
Then he will have abdicated his responsibility to the child.
The judge certainly does have jurisdiction to make the decision. If you disagree please cite the appropriate family law statute for Kentucky
The judge may not be required to break every tie between the parents, but he certainly has the authority to do so when the parents bring the dispute to him.
There was a doofus commenter here a few years ago (shocker, I know) who came up with a similar nonsensical argument about a divorced parent dispute over — I'm pretty sure it was — whether to homeschool the kid. He sounded a lot like Roger S does now, though I can't swear it's the same person.
He thought that if two divorced parents couldn't agree about a decision like that, a judge couldn't/shouldn't intervene even if the parents asked the judge to. He never actually explained how that would work — whether the father would send the kid to public school on the days when he had the kid, and the mother would keep the kid home on the days when she had the kid; or whether the mother and father should just fight a duel; or something else.
It was interesting on a different thread to see Paul Alan Levy and Bruce Hayden commenting. I remember when Bruce used to comment regularly and much of the commentariat during the pre-WaPo VC days. I'm kinda stunned that the commentariat on VC is as good as it is (if not as good as it used to be) when I foolishly click on comments on other Reason posts.
"a judge couldn't/shouldn't intervene even if the parents asked the judge to"
Usually it is just one parent who is asking the judge. If both parents agree to defer to some other authority, it is easier to just find some private arbiter.
In this case, it is probably Kentucky law that only one parent is needed to authorize a vaccine. If so, the dad can just vaccinate on his time, and no court order is needed.
Then if the father takes the kids to get the vaccine while he has the kids, the court can't micromanage to stop him from doing that.
But how does that work in practice? If parent 1 wants to get the shot (or whatever else) and parent 2 doesn't, then either the judge permits it to happen or else forbids parent 1. There is no "refusing to decide" -- if it's not forbidden by the court then it's gonna be parent 1 that 'wins' this one.
That's what makes these things so awful.
The judge should not have the responsibility of weighing the value of a CDC recommendation against the religious rights of a parent. Kentucky has laws about that, and the judge could let those laws apply, without injecting his own personal medical and religious opinions.
"judge should not have the responsibility of weighing "
Says you, but he does have it.
The objection applies if the judge makes a medical decision that is way way way out of his expertise. As the judge did in this case. The objection would not apply if the judge declined to make a medical/religious decision.
Roger,
The simple fact is walking away from stating a decision is deciding.
Otherwise we have the situation that farfalone describes. When the dad has the kid, he takes the kid to be vaccinated.
Bad? If yes, then the judge decided for the mom.
If okay, the the judge was neutral, but he did abdicate his responsibility to put the welfare of the child first. You may disagree with the CDC, but theirs is and will be viewed as a medically competent opinion. Moreover, in this case the mom has raised NO medical objections, just her religious blah-blah.
The objection applies if the judge makes a medical decision that is way way way out of his expertise.
But he didn't. He didn't make a medical decision at all.
There seems to have been no dispute about medical matters whatsoever. The mother's objections were based on her religious beliefs, not on any claim that the vaccines would be harmful.
Bernard11 says the judge made a religious decision, not a medical decision, when he ordered the parents to obey the CDC vaccine recommendation.
The court found "the children's health and welfare outweighed the religious beliefs of one parent."
The Kentucky legislature weighed these things when it adopted its system of school requirements, permissions, and exemptions. This judge was just applying his prejudices to be a petty dictator.
No. I didn't say the judge made a religious decision.
The judge did not order the parents to obey the CDC recommendations.
My post above is obviously incorrect - apologies for the error.
Roger, your focus on the CDC suggests that you are inappropriately inserting politics into this matter. The parents' objections to vaccination were documented even before they got divorced - that that was in 2018. This case has nothing to do with covid vaccinations. That makes it a very conventional pediatrician's recommendation, not something coming from a bureaucratic agency that's squandering its credibility.
The most important point is that we should all hope these children overcomes the problems associated with having a loser for a mother.
Good luck, children! Leave Kentucky (and your mother) behind the day you graduate from high school, and pursue legitimate education, economic opportunity, reason, and modernity elsewhere.
Seems like a classic divorce manipulation by one parent of the other ... the family court only went along with it because the judge approves of the position.
Once the matter was brought to family court, the judge had ti render some decision. His obligation was to consider the welfare of the child first. You might not have read that the judge suggested that a vaccine might be used that eliminated the mom's objection. You might not have noticed that he relied on the recommendation of the child's pediatrician.
Your complaint seems to be based on your no liking the ruling rather than on the facts presented and the options suggested.
I read both ... did the judge ask the child's priest?
Who cares?
Besides if he did ask an RC priest the answer would have been "Vaccinate the kid."
Look, if you don't want judges to get involved in your parenting, don't get divorced. When you involve the courts in it by getting divorced, then you have judges getting involved. The judge had to make a decision here because the parents brought the dispute for him. If the parents are equally divided, then the best interest of the child prevails.