Why We Went Crazy During COVID Lockdowns
The Things Fell Apart host Jon Ronson explains how a 1988 quack medical concept inspired George Floyd's death in 2020 and how Plandemic is basically a rewrite of Star Wars.
HD DownloadIf we all went a little nuts during the COVID-19 lockdowns, it's absolutely true that some of us—including many of our country's leaders and people in the media—went absolutely batshit crazy, often with disastrous results.
Exactly why that happened is the subject of author Jon Ronson's latest season of Things Fell Apart, a podcast that explores the deep origins of today's culture wars in controversies, panics, and delusions from decades ago.
Reason's Nick Gillespie talked with Ronson about why he believes the creation of a fake medical condition called "excited delirium" in 1988 ultimately led to the death of George Floyd in 2020, how law enforcement fixations on white supremacy warped the investigation into a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, and how the director of the massively influential Plandemic documentaries was actually rewriting the script of Star Wars.
Ronson is best known as the author of The Men Who Stare at Goats, an account of a U.S. Army unit that tried to perfect paranormal powers like walking through walls, and So You've Been Publicly Shamed, which helped define cancel culture just as it was becoming widespread via social media.
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2020 was an insane year no question.
2001 and 2008 were worse, in my opinion. You Peanuts may have a different opinion on that.
I must have missed the month long, country wide rioting that happened in 2001 and 2008.
more like three-four months, at least.
my son and I were attacked for being White in the wrong area (downtown flash BLM mob) looking at city Christmas lights.
fact is, everyone is still terrified they'll be next on the "das racist" hit list. the terror continues to this day.
Who’s this we shit you’re referring to?
Some of us just wanted to be left alone.
Some of us just wanted to be left alone.
There was an agreement to disagree on that...
a podcast that explores the deep origins of today's culture wars in controversies, panics, and delusions from decades ago
Unless the podcast is a parody along the lines of "Fuckin' Republicans have been at it for decades!..." I'm not interested in another center-left take on retconning the last 5 decades.
I must have missed the memo. I didn't agree.
It's OK, the agreement was to disagree.
Yeah, like agreeing to disagree about rape.
I went a little stir-crazy at all the restrictions our local politicians imposed unilaterally, but our state government eventually corrected the issue.
Opposite here on the Left coast. The state imposed all the crazy restrictions while the governor dined with lobbyists at Five Star restaurants, meanwhile the rural counties said "fuck that" and refused to enforce them.
In late 2020 I drove to visit my mom and took her to a steak dinner in a restaurant. It was normal. No one there cared.
“Some of us just wanted to be left alone.”
That’s exactly what drove those people crazy.
I'm still a little shocked and traumatized by how willingly so many people went along with all the insane bullshit.
Same. I had little faith in humanity, but covid taught me most people are either too stupid or too corrupt/complicit for our society to function. It was actually really depressing to have people fall so far below my already low expectations
Thirded.
Motion on the table approved.
So now what?
Never again. Companies are still short on labor. If half of the employees say "fuck you, I'm not complying" and the companies will blink.
If we could test willingness we could stop the blind acceptance.
/bailey
I feel I have a much better understanding of what happened in Italy and Germany in the thirties.
Exactly, who's this "we", kemosabe Nick?
I wanted to be left alone with my civil liberties intact, but instead, I got stuck with one of the bigger (figuratively and literally) Covid dictators who stayed as a Covid dictator longer than most. The contrast between my state (Illinois) and neighboring states (Iowa in particular) couldn't have been starker if you tried.
This is an article. A bit 'too local' I'll admit, but considering we're an epicenter... a ground zero for progressive retardation, it might be worth noting.
Lots of interesting stuff in there. "Hiring Freezes" aren't new in this area. I believe the last time there was a "hiring freeze" (at the county level) they hired more people than ever before. So... when a progressive tells you they're not increasing the payroll, knuckle up, 'cause shit's gonna REALLY get expensive.
Declines in commercial real estate taxes... gee, wonder what might've caused that, Bob?
Go woke go broke?
If I remember... lots of dems spend covid "relief funds" on pay increases. They were warned those funds would go away at some point.
the creation of a fake medical condition called "excited delirium" in 1988 ultimately led to the death of George Floyd in 2020
So Chauvin is innocent and we really need to convict CV Wetli of putting all the drugs in George Floyds' blood!
"We" didn't go crazy. The people in power went crazy.
And as to "Why", well there are myriad reasons, but one of the most important is that the people I would have expected to yell loudest about this bullshit stayed sitting down. And Reason is a prime example of that.
Article after article of ENB saying, "Gosh guys we should just voluntarily mask and quarantine so that they don't have to force us." Bailey telling us how people are doing the "right thing" staying home anyways. Soave criticizing DeSantis for banning state agencies (like schools) from mandating vaccinations and masking. Sullum trying to scold Rand Paul for "overstating" the science against mask mandates.
"We" got into this mess because the people who should have picked liberty every time instead found technicalities and penumbras and exceptions and reasons to instead criticize the people they should have been agreeing with.
Fucking A.
Yes. But they got rid of Orange Man so it was worth it.
I have an alternate theory, which I waffle on believing to various degrees.
Trump scared "classical" politicians precisely because he wasn't one of them. That's what made him so popular. And they tried throwing all sorts of shit against him, and none of it stuck or bothered him.
Then along came COVID, some idiots discovered they could shut down economies and political enemies with emergency decrees, and Trump (a) didn't care, and (b) couldn't do anything about it. Suddenly they had something to beat Trump with, regardless of how stupid it was.
I'd still really like to know exactly who it was who suckered Trump into going against his natural instincts and agreeing to wreck the country..... and his presidency right along with it.
It's the most obvious and important question about his presidency that hasn't been answered, and yet it seems like nobody in tge mainstream has the balls to ask or is even all that interested in finding out.
Fauci and Brix were at the head of it. Fauci did it in part to misdirect from his own misuse of funds at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
Fauci should've been investigated prior to 2019 and fired for his gain-of-function research funding.
Fauci should have been fired long before that for his handling of AIDS.
It is definitely suspect that he was covering up the GOF research, a strong motivator for him. And the whole world, including the massive majority of the press, were nuts, so he got cover. He’s a bureaucrat who survived in his job 40 years longer than he should have, he knows to never let a crisis go to waste.
Do you all remember the clickbait hype sites all reporting people just walking down the street in China and falling over dead? Tabloid nonsense in the before times, considering the ACTUAL death rate from the ‘rona, but it was how the mainstream press reported it as well. The health agencies should have been providing data to counter it, instead, when the Imperial College came out with their preposterous models they took numbers like that as gospel and fed the press hungry for shocking headlines. Such great fodder for power hungry autocrats looking for cover.
America's governors wrecked the economy. They issued orders to close businesses and restrict public activity.
So they were acting like dictators?
yes , The wicked witch of Michigan band buying seeds from the store, but ok'd online sales and alcohol.
My governor made it so small businesses could not open but walmart and lowes could operate
Just another transfer of wealth.
I'm glad we also had Tony and crew championing that whole era on the boards and trying to discredit anyone who questioned logic of these moves.
kind of amazing that while businesses and churches were the victims of this insanity, it was totally fine for a bunch of psychos to engage in violent "protests" for months at a time.
the COVID anarcho-tyranny was applicable only against a segment of the population with the wrong skin tone and politics. just like the Jan 6th prosecution and the miscarriage of justice against Officer Derek Chauvin.
We should all be grateful all those politicians who shut down businesses still got paid their inflated salaries while millions of people went into bankruptcy, their 401ks and lost their jobs.
Otherwise those oppressive fascist pigs in power might not be able to afford their third vacation home in the Bahamas.
Every time I can't go to the pub that had to close (after over 20 years) or the chinese place that had to sell at a steep discount (after 30 years) I get extra bitter. Places I've visited my whole adult life, thriving businesses, and the owners didn't even get to sell them at market value to fund their retirements. Just close, or sell for the price of a used oven.
God help the poor landlords who couldn't evict non-paying tenants from their granny flats. Or the folks whose stores had to close while the Wal Mart and Amazon were doing record business.
I suffer the same. My social life has never recovered, both from favorite spots being forced out of business, and my not wanting to associate with some people anymore because they turned out to be fascists just below the skin.
The last part kills me extra. I used to do a lot in the local music scene, and I still do symphony and opera shows. They made the summer festival so political and uncomfortable I stopped attending (after many, many years of regular attendance), the opera made attending such an ordeal the first two seasons back half their subscribers quit, the symphony was pushing masks -- at the OUTDOOR venue -- and checking vaccine cards a full year after the cat was out of the bag on vaccines not preventing transmission.
Even politics aside, the entire vibe of a lot of events is worse. Nobody dresses for the classical stuff, and there's something missing from the rock shows that I can't put my finger on.
That doesn't say anything for people who were (are still) wearing masks with their noses hanging out. Their choice, but I see it like the "I am stupid" sign in a Jeff Foxworthy comedy routine.
Let's see.
Some Machiavellian types schemed to use a pandemic to advance political and ideological goals, which in the near term focused on defeating Trump. Did they go crazy?
Many sycophants jumped on the manipulation band wagon for their own reasons, expecting some how to gain. Did they go crazy?
Lots of people, including (unapproved) experts, spoke out in denial and lived as free as they could. Did they go crazy?
Hordes of progressives and establishment liberals acted totally bat shit insane. Did they go crazy--or were they already crazy?
Did they go crazy–or were they already crazy?
They were revealed to be crazy in an eye-opening way that can't be unseen.
At least one of us did not go crazy.
Silly ass decrees and regulations were just ignored.
I went to church every Sunday because the pastor was not intimidated by mutterings from government officials. The only significant impact to me was the gym closed, so I lost access to a really good workout and had to make do with exercise bands and dumbbells and a bit of walking.
Then the state government came to its senses and told the feds to perform an anatomically inconvenient act, and things reopened and all was well except for the small businesses that were executed.
I live in south dakota. I kept delivering newspapers and dealing with businesses on their terms. Want me to wear a mask, ok. Dont care, ok. We didn't go crazy. We wondered what the fuck was going on in the big cities.
Ronson's deferential treatment of gatekeeper news media concerns me. He welcomes lack of control for his documentaries but won't rely on himself to parse fact from fiction when offered multiple news sources. He prefers traditional media with "standards" and arbiters of truth, in other words, gatekeepers. I now doubt his research for his podcast.