Soho Forum Debate: Gene Epstein vs. David Friedman on the Nonaggression Principle
Economists Gene Epstein and David Friedman debated how best to persuade people to become libertarians at the Porcupine Freedom Festival.
HD DownloadOn June 23, at the Porcupine Freedom Festival ("PorcFest") in Lancaster, New Hampshire, economists David Friedman and Gene Epstein debated the resolution: "The right way to persuade people of libertarianism is by showing them that its outcomes are superior by their standards, without any resort to the flawed nonaggression principle."
Taking the affirmative, Friedman reviewed key arguments set forth in his 1973 book, The Machinery of Freedom: Guide to a Radical Capitalism. He sees the nonaggression principle, or NAP, as incoherent and unnecessary for convincing nonlibertarians to accept libertarian solutions to societal problems.
Taking the negative, Epstein argued that what he prefers to call the zero-aggression principle, or ZAP, often plays an essential role in defending the libertarian case for reform, pointing to the case for abolishing drug laws and tariffs.
The debate was moderated by PorcFest organizer Dennis Pratt.
- Editing: John Osterhoudt
- Camera: Chris Silk
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Let me repeat a point I keep making about these debate posts. Why are there always two of them? The comment section is obviously a toilet for any debate about those debates, but splitting the same damn thing into two articles just renders the whole thing – who gives a shit.
Maybe if you learned how to discern your strongly held feelings from actual facts, you might find these discussions more productive?
One of these days you'll argue against what someone says instead of who they are as a person.
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You know who doesn't? You.
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How does the non-aggression principle deal with this?
https://thefederalist.com/2023/07/04/the-u-n-is-planning-to-seize-global-emergency-powers-with-bidens-support/
The emergency platform proposal might be the biggest attempted power grab in the history of the United Nations, but as shocking as it is, it pales in comparison to the Biden administration’s treatment of this extremist proposal.
Rather than assert America’s independence and sovereignty, the White House has expressed its support for the emergency platform. U.S. Ambassador Chris Lu noted in at least two March 2022 speeches that the Biden administration backs the emergency platform, along with numerous other proposals included in “Our Common Agenda.”
The emergency platform would centralize an immense amount of power and influence, giving the United Nations greater control over the lives of Americans than it has ever had before. And rather than stand up for Americans’ rights, President Biden has already agreed to sell us out.
When i was about 8 there was an older guy that would bully and knock me down at the bus top at times. I convinced him of the value of NAP. I hit him across the back with my baseball bat.
Jeff was trying to convince me the other day that the NAP means people need to shut up and bite the pillow, or they're aggressing their attackers. Particularly when the Brave and Stunning are hitting on your kids.
I remember that. A reminder: Pedo Jeffy does not consider lewd sexual contact with minors to be assault.
https://reason.com/2023/06/26/federal-judge-blocks-floridas-anti-drag-law/?comments=true#comment-10127667
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Step 1 to convincing someone to be a libertarian: isolate them from libertarians until after they're pot-committed. Meeting the crowd you're trying to pull them into is a surefire way to keep them from converting.
One important way to persuade people to libertarianism is to inform them that the corporatists and pro-grooming libertine staff at Reason aren’t libertarians.
If you pay any attention to the comments, besides being really stupid you'd know that libertarians don't exist. In the political world there are Trump Republicans and leftists. If you don't support Trump then you're a leftist. That's all there is to it.
Amirite?
Boring.
Some of the Trump Republicans claim to be the true libertarians, some don’t bother with that fig leaf.
In the last two years I’ve seen you and sarcasmic argue and cover for internet censorship, mask and vaccine mandates, Covid internment camps, government regulation, alphabet agencies illegal spying, political deplatforming, NATO expansion and international sanctions.
Maybe you two guys shouldn’t be deciding who’s libertarian or not.
Amirite?
No.
Seriously though, I think a way to convince people to support libertarianism is to simply ask them who would do a better job of running their life, themselves or some busybody. Funny thing though, I've spoken with plenty of people who really do believe that busybodies should run the lives of others. Not their lives of course. They figure that because they agree with the busybodies, they will get left alone. The trick is convincing them that they will only be left alone for so long.
"simply ask them who would do a better job of running their life, themselves or some busybody."
Literally anyone could do a better job of running Sarcasmic's life than Sarcasmic.
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I used to work with this bull dike cook.
So one day one of the guys asks how I like the job, and I say it’s fine except for the lesbian midget who can’t keep her personal life to herself. Well this 4’10” woman steps out from behind the cooler and says “I’m gonna get you fired!”
I get hauled into the office. They say I called her a dike.
It is like Hunter Biden is behind sarc’s steering wheel.
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