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The Goat-Sacrificing Prospective Libertarian Party Candidate Talks Sorcery, Eugenics, and the Coming Cataclysm

The chair of the Libertarian Party of Florida resigned, saying prospective L.P. Senate candidate Augustus Sol Invictus "is a fascist" who "wants to start a war."

Augustus Sol Invictus (he acknowledges this is not his birth name) is a Florida lawyer, a former member of a branch of the "Thelemist" religious group Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO) (associated with the doctrines of British mystic Aleister Crowley), and the author of a letter to some of his fellow DePaul University law graduations in 2013 announcing:

Invictus for Senate logoInvictus for Senate logo

I have prophesied for years that I was born for a Great War; that if I did not witness the coming of the Second American Civil War I would begin it myself. Mark well: That day is fast coming upon you. On the New Moon of May, I shall disappear into the Wilderness. I will return bearing Revolution, or I will not return at all.

War Be unto the Ends of the Earth, Augustus Sol Invictus

Mr. Invictus since emerged from the wilderness an announced candidate for federal Senate from Florida under the banner of the Libertarian Party (L.P.), although he has not yet filed the over $10,000 fee or over 100,000 signatures he needs to officially be on the ballot.

On the stump speech video that is front and center on his campaign website, one mostly dedicated to reminding Libertarians that their enemy the state is at war with them, that they have to turn themselves into legitimate threats to the state, Invictus says, among many other interesting things (including references to "more reasonable men, men less insane" than him): "I want you to revolt...I want you to be dangerous...I want each and every one of you to be a legitimate threat...I don't want you to vote so much as I want you to wake up, drop out and tune in, I want you to take LSD and practice sorcery, I want you to listen to trap music and black metal, to learn the law and break it deliberately...to subject yourself to rigorous physical training, treat your body as holy temples" and to take your girlfriends to strip clubs while you seduce the dancers in the back room.

The Senate candidate also says he knows federal agents will be listening and will eventually come to arrest him.

Invictus has also drawn the raised eyebrows of some other Florida Libertarians via an article he wrote while in law school defending and recommending government eugenics programs.

While he officially disavows eugenics as a political project of the U.S. government, and notes he's not campaigning on a eugenics program, he still writes that "in theory, were a State run by a beneficent philosopher-king, and were his edicts carried out by magnanimous servants of the people, then perhaps eugenic measures could work."

For those Libertarians bothered that such thoughts could ever have issued from his pen, even though he does not advocate state-sponsored eugenics as a candidate, Invictus writes that "To circumscribe our freedom of thought because of the delicate sensibilities of suburban paper pushers is the most despicable type of totalitarian tyranny imaginable."

Adrian Wyllie (who ran for governor of Florida last year and got a very high for the L.P. nearly 4 percent, 223,000 or so votes) resigned Thursday from his position as chair of the Libertarian Party of Florida (LPF), because he felt the Party's executive committee was insufficiently willing to speak out publicly against Invictus for what Wyllie considers obvious offenses against libertarianism.

Wyllie made a public announcement of his resignation on his Facebook page:

The legally-changed name he chose for himself is revealing. August Sol Invictus is Latin, and translates to "The Unconquerable Sun God."...

Clearly, this man is the absolute antitheses of a Libertarian. Violent Fascist and Neo-Nazi ideologies are completely incompatible with Libertarian values. As such, I had repeatedly and vocally disavowed him and his followers. I advised the LPF that I would continue to speak out against him, regardless of the consequences.

Wyllie wants it understood that he doesn't think the others on the LPF executive committee were fans or supporters of Invictus, but that they were overly punctilious about how disapproval should be expressed, or when.

"The vast majority of L.P. members and the executive committee recognize that this guy is the antithesis of of a libertarian," Wyllie says. "He is a fascist, violent, wants to start a war, the kind of person we should totally distance ourselves from. The disagreement came about in how we should handle it." (As to the fascist accusation, Invictus's official campaign logo literally contains fasces.)

Exactly the degree to which Wyllie was being prevented by his fellows on the LPF executive committee from speaking out against Invictus is ambiguous, though Wyllie ultimately felt they were not sufficiently alarmed by the threat of Invictus to the Party's image.

Last week Wyllie put forward a motion of no confidence in himself, after telling the executive committee he intended to continue speaking out against Invictus with or without their explicit support. The no confidence vote did not pass. Wyllie resigned anyway, after noting that a near-majority on the executive committee abstained from or ignored the vote; this was not the ringing support he wanted for his condemnation of Invictus.

Indeed, Wyllie's former vice chair, Lynn House, also resigned, not over Invictus per se but over belief that in letting Wyllie speak out against him without explicitly directing him to do so, the executive committee were violating their own bylaws.

Specifically, as House said to me in a written message, "Because 10 members of the EC have voted to support the Chair's position that he may speak for the LPF on matters of his personal opinion without approval from the EC, and in doing so have willfully voted to violate Bylaw provision Article III, Section 3a and Standing Rule Article VIII, Section 1....Bottom line for me was that they defrauded the membership by violating the bylaws," House wrote. Again, violated them by not stopping him from condemning Invictus.

Last night the LPF's executive committee voted on two motions, one to expel Invictus and one to condemn him for certain of his positions. The expulsion vote failed, seven against and five for.

Augustus Invictus/FacebookAugustus Invictus/Facebook

The condemning passed, eight for and five against. Even that condemning was quite legalistic, declaring that the executive committee will if the motion passes issue "a strong single or series of press release that condemns the content of Mr Invictus campaign but not to specify that we do or don't support him." One such press release came out today.

After the vote to bounce him failed, Invictus wrote on his Facebook page that:

I urge both my supporters and my detractors to show good sportsmanship so that we may all work together to grow the Party. If we have cause for celebration it is not for the fact that I have won anything but for the fact that the Executive Committee has done the right thing in refusing to expel a member of the Party without a clear violation of the Non-Aggression Principle.

Florida law allows anyone who is a registered member of a Party (registration is a matter between the voter and the state, not the voter and the Party) to get themselves on the ballot. The L.P. has nothing but the bully pulpit by which to police its candidates. They do have a voluntary certification process to vet candidates, but Invictus has not yet chosen to go through it.

Invictus, in a phone interview last week, thinks Wyllie is pushing religious prejudice against him, seeing his thelemic beliefs as essentially "dark." Wyllie was telling people that Invictus was booted from the OTO for a violent goat sacrifice; Invictus insists they wanted to be separate from him because of the same 2013 letter quoted above. That letter, he says, caused OTO to fear it would "get the FBI called on them" even though Invictus did not talk about OTO or thelema specifically.

Invictus considers himself a solid libertarian, and says while he was more or less raised as one his desire to enter politics was primed by a Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) raid on a pharmacy he used to work at, and a strong desire to see that organization destroyed.

Wyllie says that in a face to face meeting with Invictus at an L.P. meeting last year Invictus reiterated a desire to wage war on humanity. Invictus recalls it differently: "He asked me about certain of my writings, I tried to explain the doctrine of transhumanism, Nietzsche, who thought mankind must be overcome, I don't know, clearly I didn't explain it well. Because [Wyllie] immediately started going around saying I said I wanted to kill every man, woman, and child on earth."

But Invictus does not back down from the general sense of his "war" rhetoric. "There is a cataclysm coming," he tells me. "I don't think I'm the only one who sees it. I might be the only one who talks about it. I think it's disingenuous for people to talk in their living rooms about government collapsing, the possibility of total anarchy, but when someone says it in public it's so terrifying they have to persecute that person."

Invictus grants that "I totally understand I'm an eccentric person, I'm not going to claim to be a normal person." But in the context of running for office, what should be the issue is "my vision for the country and if I'm capable of bringing it about." 

That vision, he insists, is not about "race war" despite Wyllie's accusations that he's deliberately bringing white supremacists into the L.P. Invictus says that these accusations come from his relationship with the white supremacist group American Front, who he has "refused to say are evil people, since they are my friends." Invictus as a lawyer is in the process of defending American Front leader Marcus Faella in his appeal on a domestic terrorism case.

Wyllie thinks other aspects of Invictus' past floating on the Internet will cast bad light on the L.P. if Invictus is their Senate candidate. That includes such audio recordings as "Give Me a War" and "Hades" (that latter labeled an "LSD recording"). Invictus says they are his "poetry readings" and reflect nothing important about his candidacy.

When you interview Senate candidate Invictus, he doesn't talk in the strangely accented declamatory style on those recordings; it's clearly performative. In some of his current official Senate campaign "fireside chats" he sounds somewhere between his normal interview voice and his "poetry" voice and includes lines such as "the success of the American revolution...was predicated on battle and bloodshed...where is your bravery, my fellow Americans? Where is your love of danger?...I see rising a generation of warriors and explorers , cosmonauts and psychonauts, frontiersmen and wild women..."

Beyond things he seems to believe outside the specific context of his campaign, Invictus the candidate has some milder departures from libertarian orthodoxy on things like "energy independence" and the environment. He thinks government action to ensure the former and protect the latter are needed, scoffing at the idea that private tort claims for environmental damage could work; "maybe it would work for rich people, but if an average citizen has his water polluted by a megacorporation, what's he going to do about it?"

Various executive committee members I spoke to since Thursday were unwilling to take the Wyllie tack of just declaring that of course for the sake of political realism if nothing else, the Party must loudly and in every possible way condemn and distance itself from Invictus.

One of the L.P.'s slogans has been "the party of principle" and in many cases LPF executive committee members stuck punctiliously to principle in their stances regarding Invictus.

Karl Dickey, regional representative from region 13 (including Palm Beach County) (who voted no on expulsion, yes on condemnation) says "I would like to see the Party distance itself from Invictus" and that "based on the conference call last night it was clear no one was supporting Invictus who is on the executive committee."

Still, though, "I don’t feel we have any direct evidence that Invictus violated the NAP." The "NAP" is the non-aggression principle, the vow to not initiate violent or coercive force on another, and allows for any and all "thoughtcrime" that doesn't result in actual assault on another's person or property. L.P. members have to vow to follow it, and many in the Party seem to agree with Dickey that nothing short of that should get you booted.

Lynn House, the resigned vice chair, agrees, writing to me that: "I wanted proof that would stand up to the NAP of what Adrian was accusing Augustus....Proof of the NAP violation were weak, either untimely, or vague, or erroneous."

Char-lez Braden, now acting chair of the FLP, notes that "Libertarians tend to be a very open minded group" with "freedom of speech as a big strong core value" so one might say "some pretty outlandish things and still be libertarian and it will really come down to force and fraud, non-aggression or initiation of aggression" and notes that to some, "even voting is aggression."

Thus, Ken Willey, representing region 5 (including Duval County), voted no on both motions, though he says, "the idea that some of us are OK with [Invictus representing them as a candidate] is completely inaccurate." Still, he thought that even bringing attention to Invictus through condemning him was unwise public relations. (Wyllie says that one of his reasons for quitting was to draw press attention to Invictus and begin the public process of disentangling the L.P.'s reputation from Invictus'.)  Willey thinks no one could seriously see this guy as a real threat to start any war and that now the L.P. is just tagged with another "news of the weird" story about a politician sacrificing a goat.

But even as far as voting to condemn him, the very legalistic Willey tells me that since the LPF have an official process for vetting candidates which Invictus has not gone through, that the only proper time to condemn him is then. 

The LPF has nothing to say about who their candidate is on Florida's ballot. If you are a registered member of a Party and file the proper number of signatures or cash, you are on the ballot. If more than one person does this, then you are on the primary ballot where statewide registered L.P. voters can decide.

As of now, no one else has announced a definite intention to seek the Senate ballot slot except Invictus. Ever since May, a somewhat less outre controversialist, former GOP fixer and author of a book that insists LBJ was responsible for the Kennedy assassination, Roger Stone has been saying he might do so.

Stone tells me last week via email that "I am actively considering [running for Senate with the L.P. in Florida]...I am more likely to run if Clinton  and Bush are the presidential candidates of their parties as the Senate race would be a great forum to expose the two party duopoly in which both parties are the same; endless war, erosion of civil liberties, massive debt, wild spending and a weak dollar."

Stone is aware of the Invictus controversy, and writes that "I find Invictus' views repugnant and not in anyway Libertarian."

If Invictus actually pays his filing fee or collects his 100,000 plus signatures to get on the ballot, and if neither Roger Stone nor anyone else does so, then the Party will be stuck with whatever public relations problem Invictus represents. But as current acting chair (he was only the secretary until both the chair and vice chair resigned last week) Char-lez Braden says, "The laws of the state of Florida do not allow us as a Party to have any control over that."

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  • AlmightyJB||

    2 crazy candidate stories in a row!

  • Austrian Anarchy||

    Sounds like 1988 all over again. Maybe a sprinkling of 1995 too.

  • Coop||

    Here is an article about a former Libertarian Party candidate in Canada who was booted out of the party in September. The guy has been scamming people out of millions of dollars with ponzi schemes and fraud.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/scand.....35700.html

  • DevilDocNowCiv||

    Crazy? Maybe; I agree personally that this guy seems bizarre. But along with that, he's functionally bizarre, and on that note I support the LP's NAP idea. Rather than expel him, I urge all LP'ers to speak out pro or con this guy. I would, as a Floridian Repub who is leaning LP, suggest a draft "oppo template" for editing:
    Augustus associates himself as a friend with overt racists, a white supremacist group. Hispanics have "La Raza," which translates as "The Race." Louis Farrakhan's version of American Islam, "Nation of Islam," is overtly racist against whites (i.e., white devils). I strongly urge LP not to follow these examples. Augie has other issues I disagree with, and I see this as one of his issues that many of us can rally against. If you agree, join me in being "anti Augustus" so as to strongly affirm we are not a Caucasian favoring version of one of the aforementioned racist groups (and any other of his issues you may dislike). I also urge no formal party action against Augustus, because that would be punishing "thought-crime."

  • AlmightyJB||

    Who was the crazy dude used to hang out here with all the caps and bracketing? My memory is shit.

  • Jordan||

    Hercule? He was endearing. This guy is just a nutjob.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I'm pretty sure it was a bot.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Oh, everyone whose truth you don't agree with is a bot. Hercule was as real as it gets.

  • commodious spittoon||

    But was he spectacular?

  • KDN||

    Herc had his own blog. It was enjoyable until it was abandoned and overrun by Indonesian spambots.

  • ||

    Yes, I was thinking we once had a commenter who used that handle, figured it was the same guy.

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  • AlmightyJB||

    Well the hell is Sharon?

  • AlmightyJB||

    Also, Where the hell is Sharon!

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||

    Orbiting Pluto?

  • MJGreen - Docile Citizen||

    You'd call a guy with that logo a fascist!?

  • Austrian Anarchy||

    Well, yea look at the ax handle!

  • Mickey Rat||

    No more than I'd call the House of Representatives a fascist organization.

    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-674218

  • ||

    I'm watching the video, but that thing he's doing with his tongue is almost unbearably annoying. Now I need to hear the rest of this...

  • ||

    Guy is badly contradicting himself. First he says, don't try to get a spot inside of the corrupt 2 party system, then he says infiltrate them. How are you supposed to infiltrate anything from a position on the outside?

  • ||

    Ok, he's a total nutcase. Holy shit, is this guy being paid by democrats to do this or is he just really fucking batshit crazy?

    We need some more radical libertarians in the mold of Adam Kokesh, but this guy is not a libertarian he's just a fucking nutcase.

  • ||

    Strangely, reading his platform, there's pretty much nothing that I don't agree with him on. But when you hear him speak you become aware after a while that something is wrong with this dude.

  • ||

    "I totally understand I'm an eccentric person, I'm not going to claim to be a normal person."

  • ||

    In my humble opinion, there's quite a bit of difference between being eccentric, I mean my father is nothing if not eccentric, or not quite being normal, as a libertarian and software engineer, I can definitely be described as not quite normal, and being an unhinged lunatic, which this guy seems closer to being than either of the former.

  • VicRattlehead||

    Still hes better than the republican or democrat candidates......

  • Chipper Morning Wood||

    I think he might just capture the Florida Man vote.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I found nothing objectionable in his platform either, though on these fora his immigration plank would cause at least 30 to 40% to scream "cosmo!!1!!"

    That having been said, what's the crazy part? I haven't deign to listen to his fireside chats. Hell, as a prepper, while I hope for the best, I'm pretty much with him that I'm going to see the 2nd ACW in my lifetime. If that be madness, then let's make the most of it!

  • ||

    Did you listen to that video? I want you to take LSD and practice sorcery? Really? I mean it's ok if the guy says I don't care if you take LSD and practice sorcery. But I want you to?

    Also, he contradicts himself badly, several times, and otherwise sounds more than a little crazy.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Well, what else are you going to do on LSD other than practice sorcery? Comment here late at night about Throbbing genitalia?

  • sasob||

    Climb out a 20th story window onto the rainbow?

  • gaoxiaen||

    Stare at the sun, of course.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Did you listen to that video?

    No, which might be it. Though taking LSD and practicing sorcery seems to work for AC. And we all love Agile.

    Honestly, I find his defense of eugenics to be more objectionable. Not because of some knee-jerk cry of racism, as he takes great pains to disavow eugenics based on "racial characteristics, sex, and socially unacceptable behavior," but from the fact that I find it odd that someone who presumably understands why command economies don't work can't transfer that understanding to the gene market.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    *watched video*

    "I want you to take your girlfriend to a strip club so you can seduce a dancer in the backroom."

    Vote. Cast.

    Seriously though, I believe the part of his speech where he lists the things he "wants" you to do is not to be taken as literal orders, but rather a metaphorical call to be a freethinker and disruptive to the system.

  • ||

    You should have told me that before I got half of the list checked off. I figure the LSD isn't going to stop until morning so I might as well see how many more I can finish.

  • commodious spittoon||

    The best part has got to be dragging your girlfriend to the strip club. "No, baby, it's okay. I just need to seduce a stripper. Florida Man told me to!"

  • GILMORE™||

    "I believe the part of his speech where he lists the things he "wants" you to do is not to be taken as literal orders, but rather a metaphorical call to be a freethinker and disruptive to the system."

    yes.

    but everything else he says seems to suggest he's a psychopathic morpn

  • SQRLSY One||

    I want you to take LSD and go bat-shit crazy in the loony bin, then have your relatives demand more and more taxpayer $$$$ to take care of you, because you are a VICTIM... If I say you are a victim of yourself, then I am heartlessly "blaming the victim"... Then I am the NAZI, and you-all are the victims... So just shoot me now!

  • ThomasD||

    Advocating for that which you believe or practice is somehow worse than the believing or practicing?

    That idea is as crazy as he is.

  • GILMORE™||

    "Strangely, reading his platform, there's pretty much nothing that I don't agree with him on. "

    I've generally found it easy to separate complete douchebags from their stated beliefs.

    (meaning, i don't blame the beliefs for the douchebag)

    See = Bo

  • commodious spittoon||

    As it happens, I haven't seen a lot of Bo.

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||

    This does not make us sad.

  • Michael||

    Oh, good. I was just beginning to fear that the rest of the country might start to perceive libertarians as generally sane, rational people.

  • Michael||

    Who is he addressing? Why is this in black and white? Also, do I have to watch all twenty minutes of it?

  • AlmightyJB||

    You'll have to ask Judge Napolitano Only he know's those answers for sure.

  • Contrarian P||

    Unfortunately the answers will be in the form of more questions.

  • Tejicano||

    How would you know that? Isn't it possible that he might have found a new way to express himself? Isn't it possible that, with the influence of this nutcase, the judge might break out of that mold?

  • SusanM||

    Well, ya gotta give him points for taking a stereotype and just owning it. Even if it does mean he'll get 0.0000001% of the vote instead of the 0.0000002% he would have otherwise gotten.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Unfortunately. he'll probably pull in more supporters than Rand Paul.

  • SIV||

    Invictus isn't compromising his principles.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Invictus will never achieve as much for liberty as Rand.

  • Chipper Morning Wood||

    You just hate him because he wants to cut nutrient fluid subsidies.

  • ||

    It's also highly likely that Invictus is batshit insane, for what it's worth.

  • SusanM||

    And Paul deserves no less for waffling so badly. If there's any one thing which makes people like The Donald is that he projects an air of absolute certainty and conviction - even when his positions change by the day. This Sol guy may be a raving loony, but he leaves no doubt about where he stands.

  • Cytotoxic||

    This sol guy will never match even Waffler Rand's limited achievements for liberty.

  • AlmightyJB||

    There are plenty of losers that would buy into his bullshit.

  • AlmightyJB||

    There are plenty of losers that would buy into his bullshit.

  • SusanM||

    Whose? Paul, Trump or Sol?

  • AlmightyJB||

    I was talking about Sol but...

  • ||

    I've been posting here for a couple of years that Rand has got to stop pandering so hard to SoCons. But he wouldn't listen even if he would have heard it. Now he's starting to sound a little more Libertarian, but it's probably too late.

  • VicRattlehead||

    Be happy for it, he would have been disastrous for the brand

  • ThomasD||

    Even if 100% of libertarians were to be generally sane rational people this episode does point up the difficulties that certainly would arise under a libertarian 'regime,' as every sort of nut job or head case pushed the NAP to it's sole limit.

  • ||

    I don't want you to vote so much as I want you to wake up, drop out and tune in

    I would like to receive his newsletter, if you know what I mean.

  • ||

    "He asked me about certain of my writings, I tried to explain the doctrine of transhumanism, Nietzsche, who thought mankind must be overcome, I don't know, clearly I didn't explain it well. Because [Wyllie] immediately started going around saying I said I wanted to kill every man, woman, and child on earth."

    Seriously. Newsletter. Now.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Nietzsche huh. So he is the superman. Great.

  • GamerFromJump||

    And the nutbar manages to set back Transhumanists, Libertarians, and Libertarian Transhumanists all at once. Good jorb.

  • AlmightyJB||

    He had me at strip club

  • Chipper Morning Wood||

    but he meant "Florida strip club"

  • ||

    He's running for Senate, but he doesn't want you to vote for him. He wants to infiltrate the 2 party system, but not from the inside. He's cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

  • MJGreen - Docile Citizen||

    I would like to receive his newsletter, if you know what I mean.

    You and your obsession with anal.

  • GILMORE™||

    For those who might need to get their Augustus Sol Invictus greeting-cards out before the holiday season gets started.... this might help a little

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I can't be the only one who sees a resemblance between Sol Invictus and H. P. Lovecraft.

  • ||

    He reminds me of someone, but I can't quite pin it down. Mussolini?

  • lap83||

    Pol Pot?

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||

    He reminds me of someone, but I can't quite pin it down. Mussolini?

    Nope. That's Obama.

    Trains.
    Corporate cronyism.
    Nose up in the air.

    Il Duce redux.

  • Mindyourbusiness||

    The Emporer Norton?

  • Mindyourbusiness||

    Emperor.

    Damn squirrelz.

  • Chipper Morning Wood||

    Lol, spot on. What do you think he named his cat?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I can't be the only one who sees a resemblance between Sol Invictus and H. P. Lovecraft.

  • SIV||

    There goes the Portagee vote

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    The Portagee should have never been put anywhere near clam chowder.

  • greasonable (was sthgrau)||

  • ||

    Good grief I have never heard people of Portuguese heritage referred to as Portagee. My wife has never heard that either and she's a native speaker of the language. I'll have to ask my son in law, he's the languages expert in the family.

  • SIV||

    Fall River, Mass...Rhode Island...Hawaii...

    It's kind of a slur. Also spelled "Portugee"

    H.P. Lovecraft didn't like them much.

  • ||

    Brazilians make fun of the Portuguese also, much like we make fun of Brits and Europeans in general. But they just call them Portuguese. And they do have the jokes that are sort of like the American version of 'Polack' jokes.

  • AlmightyJB||

    I was thinking more along the lines of...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilEkM5xeTGI

  • DEG||

    No, you're not.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Straight out of Dunwich.

  • DEG||

    A few years ago I visited Savannah. Wandering around the city on the edge of the historic district, I saw a woman with eyes like I always pictured the Innsmouth half-breeds having, and she had an upside down cross tattooed on her calf.

  • SIV||

    Plenty of Juju in Savannah.

  • Tejicano||

    I once bought something at a flea market in Tucson, Arizona, I believe it was a lawn tool of some sort, from a guy with a "666" tattooed between his eyes. 666 in a circular shape. It was unnerving just talking to him.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Nothing says fuck it quite like that.

  • ThomasD||

    For a flea market in southern Arizona that display is rather mild.

  • VicRattlehead||

    At least he has the common sense not to run against an Ancient One.
    Cthulhu 2016!!!!

  • AlmightyJB||

  • This Machine Chips Fascists||

    A Thelemite huh? Sounds like a Discordian prankster to me.

  • Chipper Morning Wood||

    Most of the Thelemites I have met were rather mild, pleasant people that would run away from this neo-nazi bullshit pronto. But Thelema does seem to attract the crazy type.

  • AlmightyJB||

    I really hope this guys eventual manifesto is shorter than the Unabombers.

  • Cytotoxic||

    I hope it's shorter than this damn article. Ugh thanks Bailey but the inner workings of the LP are not something I need to here about in detail.

  • ThomasD||

    Thankfully the Unabomber never subjected anyone to meter and rhyme.

  • GILMORE™||

    When you run out of small talk on your first date.... try, Sol Invictus

  • AlmightyJB||

    I usually go a different direction when I run out of small talk.

  • GILMORE™||

    It works better while you're giving a foot-massage

  • AlmightyJB||

    Most things do

  • lap83||

    for some reason the combination of that quote and the cheerleader makes that my favorite someecard ever

  • Ken Shultz||

    Nothing quoted in the post above is any crazier than the insane shit Barack Obama and his progressive supporters say every day about how the economy works.

  • ||

    No, I would agree he's not more batshit crazy than the far left, if as, but when he's claiming to be one of us, that's a problem for me. Also, the batshit crazy left at least try to keep their mask on most of the time, even though they do have a lot of slips. This guy has no filter at all.

  • Ken Shultz||

    But Obama and his progressives supporters aren't the batshit crazy left.

    They're just the left.

    On the subject of how the economy works, middle of the road progressives are crazier than this guy.

  • ||

    Yeah but it doesn't matter as far as getting elected is concerned. You can say dumb shit like 'you didn't build that business' and actually believe it, and still get elected. But saying I want you to take LSD and practice sorcery, listen to black metal and dance naked in the wilderness will totally freak out most people.

  • Ken Shultz||

    "But saying I want you to take LSD and practice sorcery, listen to black metal and dance naked in the wilderness will totally freak out most people."

    And yet all that shit is harmless compared to, say, ObamaCare.

  • ||

    Well, we know this, Ken. But the voting public are pants shitters who freak out as a daily routine.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Well fuck all the pants shitters, and fuck their shitty pants!

  • Gene||

    THIS +1

  • ThomasD||

    In a way it is a mark of how far libertarian principles have come, and how they are perceived. Much like how the left/progressives dressed themselves up as 'liberals' in favor of freedom.

  • DEG||

    I totally understand I'm an eccentric person

    Eccentric person? Understatement of the ... millennia?

  • Hank Phillips||

    This has the odor another Charles Manson/Art Linketter gambit. Back then everyone who tripped ripped celebrities and defenstrated. If true, the GOP could have confirmed Owsley to head the FDA and eliminated all opposition to genocide in Vietnam. When children actually did commit suicide to escape Republican parents, the event was attributed to LSD even when the coroner's report showed the exact opposite was true. Remember the ole National Lampoon lampooning of CREEP?

  • Sevo||

    Where does AC live again?

  • Sevo||

    I keed, in case it's not obvious...

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Lima, OH. He can be vice president.

  • ||

    Lima? No wonder he's all drugged up all the time.

  • VicRattlehead||

    AC would you happen to be a fellow Gomerican?
    Mary McCrabs was in my Boot camp division

  • ||

    I seem to recall Ohio.

  • ||

    Didn't see Playa's response.

    Prick.

  • RAHeinlein||

    Seriously, can't you two get past the lemon-lime controversy and just 7-UP already?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    He's Canadian. He's the one who sucks.

  • Agammamon||

    SEE HIHN! You spent all this time here bitching about woodchipper references and look what snuck in the back door.

  • Agammamon||

    And Reason? 'Snuck' is a real word.

  • ||

    It actually is. It's one of those slang words that has been around for so long that it's now accepted as a real word. Sneaked is the proper past tense of sneak.

  • LynchPin1477||

    I believe it is "snicked" in the back door.

  • Agammamon||

    That's Wolverine's preferred sex act - but the ladies won't let him in.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Are we sure that's not Hihn?

  • Sevo||

    (laughing)

  • Cytotoxic||

    The LP continues to damage libertarianism.

  • This Machine Chips Fascists||

    You have to admit that the LPF central committee is following principles before principals here. Unfortunately that can come off as tedious and tendentious as its opposite.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Fair enough but the LP just seems to attract too many loonies and not provide enough nap time. They also revel in tedious drama.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    Sounds like there's a lot of NAP time, considering the time they spend on it.

  • Hank Phillips||

    Is Ed Clark still around? Surely we can find something other than borrowed republicans and "former" socialists to put before voters.

  • LynchPin1477||

    Which I guess is admirable, but politics is about how other people see you. That doesn't mean you have to betray your principles, but 1) you do need to be mindful of how you package them and 2) there is no libertarian principle that says anyone who wants to can join a private club (in this case the Libertarian Party).

  • ||

    Is there a libertarian principle that says I need to act like a total anti-social ass clown and scare the fuck out of normal people, when my job is to act sane and get elected to help further my principles? I think not.

  • LynchPin1477||

    Perhaps it is just a founding principle of the Florida Libertarian Party.

  • ThomasD||

    Like this guy is going to get 100K signatures.

    He's getting treated to a degree of legitimacy that is wholly unwarranted.

    And for a reason.

  • Hank Phillips||

    You mean, and on account of Reason?

  • Mrs. Lemuel Struthers||

    I like his vest.

  • AlmightyJB||

  • gaoxiaen||

    FOUR CROSSBONES! How cool!

  • ||

    I love his vest!

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I know, right?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    You're just trying to make me jealous. It won't work.

  • GILMORE™||

    Ahem. Waistcoat

  • MJGreen - Docile Citizen||

  • Christophe||

    Sol Invictus for Senator of the Sunshine state? I smell an elaborate troll.

  • GILMORE™||

    OT =

    For the people who are sci-fi types... I watched "Interstellar" last night.

    Short summary = it seems like a movie to make dumb people feel smart. ooh, relativity. yes, very interesting.

    yet the big brains don't bother to survey the places they're planning to land before planting their spacecraft in the path of a 2,000ft tidal-wave ...

    (which - hey, look = science! - would have drained water towards itself from many many miles ahead of its path... because that's how waves work, scientists)

    ... and have brilliant A-I possessing, super-mobile robots... yet utilize sociopathic lying loners as their long-term "Space Explorers", because hey! plot device.

    in short, sometimes directors try to make "smart" movies and simply reveal how dumb they are. Lesson = movies are Entertainment, Dumbass. Which is why Inception was awesome, and this thing sucks balls.

  • ||

    I was very disappointed by Interstellar. Oblivion and even Prometheus are better SciFi. Prometheus is a far superior movie for visuals compared to Interstellar, which I always heard was the strong point for Interstellar.

  • Cytotoxic||

    "Oblivion and even Prometheus are better SciFi. "

    Oh no they are not. Oblivion was stupid and Prometheus was even stupider. Prometheus RUINED the Alien franchise.

  • ||

    In my opinion, yes they are. Prometheus is far superior on visuals, and Oblivion was a far superior movie story wise.

  • Caress of Woodchipper||

    Oblivion? Not perfect, not great, but damn decent enough.

    Prometheus? Nothing redeeming. Watching it drunk out of my mind and barely able to focus I still knew what was going to happen next. Right up to the woman aborting the alien.

    Also, sound effect for the rolling saucer is used all over the place

  • Cytotoxic||

    "the woman aborting the alien."

    That was the one awesome part.

    Oblivion could have been a good movie if it had stuck to its original premise but the writers just had to take a Shamylan on the script and put in a 'twist'. And again, gigantic plot holes ex: "Why does Sally have the ability to read Jack’s mind but mistakes a big old black man (Beech) in the pod for Julia, a small young Russian woman."

    http://www.filmmakingreview.co.....-oblivion/

    Also: where did they find another pod to put Julia in while Harper took Beech with him to the Tet?

  • Caress of Woodchipper||

    Okay, that's a lot of plot holes in Oblivion, some really bad. Not as good as I was thinking. I may have suspended disbelief too much.

    At least it's wasn't Prometheus.

  • Cytotoxic||

    True that.

  • GILMORE™||

    The fact that the movie setup took 40 minutes is one reason for the abysmal failure of the movie.

    If the first 1/3 of your "Epic Sci-Fi Movie" is nothing but cornfields and exposition, you probably need to re-work the fucking script. That, or the remainder better be a roller-coaster of action-orgasms and clever plot-reversals.

    Also, there's just some fundamental motivational/plot problems

    The Plan-A/Plan-B issue they set up construes this "operation: save human race" as an entirely either-or mission. Either save the existing people OR establish future colony.

    Doesn't make any sense except for the purpose of merely setting up the "philosophy debate-in-space!"-scene where people disagree about the A or B choice. That doesn't strike me as thoughtful NASA mission-planning. You don't plausibly shoot people through a wormhole with the fate of the human race in their hands with the orders... "just wing it from there".

    Never mind the whole "Chick has secret love for space-scientists we never see" side-plot that creates the basis for that debate.

    Then you get the Matt Damon-effect. Which obviates everything else that happened in the film.

    Everything could have gone *swimmingly* up until they met him.... and then BOOM = disaster, because "crazy astronaut"

    God it was so dumb.

  • LynchPin1477||

    Oh, there were so many plot holes. As already mentioned, a blight that kills every crop on Earth seems pretty far fetched. If I were a botanist I'd be spraying blight on every crop I can get my hands on for as many generations as possible in order to breed a resistant strain.

    And then there was the idea that they've been training for years to go on this humanity-saving mission, but they'll totally just swap out the pilot because some guy that the professor once knew got a message.

    Then Matthew McConaughey is all like, "I can't go, I have kids", and about 30 seconds later is like "OK, cool, let me just go grab my duffle bag".

    And I love how NO ONE thinks to look for poor Anne Hathaway or anyone else from the mission even though humanity has mastered interplanetary space flight and colonization for like 30-40 years.

    The visuals were cool, though.

  • GILMORE™||

    "a blight that kills every crop on Earth seems pretty far fetched."

    No kidding. But! I believe in sci-fi stories, the *premise* is OK when its irrational.

    Its a given. Assumed. Deus Ex Machina. Doesn't need explaining. Everything that flows from there, however, *needs to be logical*. Which is the basic trade-off of sci-fi =

    "WHAT IF?"... is the premise....no matter how crazy...

    then the resultant plot is, "Well, here's an interesting logical way science could deal with that..."

    Completely agree about the whole "how NASA re-discovers their old pilot" thing. It was a waste of time. If he was the Top Gun of space-travel, then you'd think NASA might still have his phone number. And then there's the utter lack of conflict between 'staying vs. going' while on Earth, but once in Space OMG "AH MISS MAH KIDS WAHHHHH"

  • Cytotoxic||

    "once in Space OMG "AH MISS MAH KIDS WAHHHHH""

    That's a little unfair he did have that whole time dilation event and got all those messages at once.

  • Cytotoxic||

    "The Plan-A/Plan-B issue they set up construes this "operation: save human race" as an entirely either-or mission. Either save the existing people OR establish future colony.

    Doesn't make any sense"

    I thought they explained it well enough. They had one plan to move the human race by solving some crazy ass gravity equation, and if it didn't work out, then they'd rely on the clone settlement. That part was okay. Other parts...not so much.

  • Quincy.||

    yet the big brains don't bother to survey the places they're planning to land before planting their spacecraft in the path of a 2,000ft tidal-wave

    That made me push STOP, EJECT. The planet is orbiting a black hole, for fuck's sake!

  • ||

    Yeah, that was big time stupid.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Yeah. Even if it doesn't have tsunamis and is perfectly habitable, the time dilation makes it a terrible place to settle.

  • Quincy.||

    the time dilation makes it a terrible place to settle.

    Why? Getting killed by flood waters seems a worse death than being chronologically out of sync with Earth.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Because once you're there, the universe is moving and dying A LOT faster around you. Humanity goes forward in slow motion compared to the rest of the universe.

  • gaoxiaen||

    It would make astronomy more interesting.

  • GILMORE™||

    I really think they just did that because someone was like, "Wouldn't a huge tidal wave be cool"?

    ...and they were like, "we're halfway through the movie and no one has died".

    It was need for "pacing" and "artificial drama" interfering with the scientific integrity of the plot.

    If they really only needed to peek down on the planet for a second, they could have stayed in orbit while dropping the robot. But nooooooooo we needed a tidal wave to kill the beardo.

  • Quincy.||

    The lesson is: Don't do stupid shit on an "I fucking love science" movie.

  • Cytotoxic||

    You make some good points but Interstellar still had its strong points. It went real loopy towards the end. I don't think the AI-possessing robots were as good at exploring as people, and they had no way of knowing that Damon's character would turn out the way he did. Isolation drove him mad.

  • GILMORE™||

    What were the 'Strong Points' again?

  • Caress of Woodchipper||

    You could pretend the cylinder habitat at the end was Freeside?

  • GILMORE™||

    I was more gratified to learn that people had copious Beer Rations during their space travel

  • Caress of Woodchipper||

    Goddamn it, I think I'm out of beer rations

  • Cytotoxic||

    The robot, the falling into the black hole, Matt Damon going crazy and destroying himself, space flight

  • GILMORE™||

    I asked about the *Strong Points*

  • Crusty Juggler||

    Jessica Chastain and her little chin cleft.

  • GILMORE™||

    She is a handsome lass

  • Cytotoxic||

    THOSE ARE STRONG STFU

  • GILMORE™||

    "space flight" and "robots"....

    ..... are things you consider exceptionally executed elements of the film?

    hmmmmm

    and.... Matt Damon's Academy Award-winning performance of...a Super-Scientist who turns out to be an irrational plot-forwarding-moron?

    He's one of the dumbest, worst executed characters in the history of film. They spend half the film building him up, Third-Man-Style, as 'the reason for this whole program'...

    .... only to have him devolve into a petty egomaniac willing to murder everyone ...despite supposedly having been desperate for human-contact only 2 scenes earlier.

    Please, explain how these are "strong points".

  • Cytotoxic||

    You're not being clever. The robot in InterStellar was awesome and funny while that robot you linked to had downs syndrome and was typically awful for its era of film-making.

    "He's one of the dumbest, worst executed characters in the history of film. They spend half the film building him up, Third-Man-Style, as 'the reason for this whole program'...

    .... only to have him devolve into a petty egomaniac willing to murder everyone ...despite supposedly having been desperate for human-contact only 2 scenes earlier."

    You missed the boat by a light-year on this one. Yes, he was built up: the point was that he let everyone down. He's an allusion to Dr. Mann of hockey-stick fame. Behind his thin rationalizations for killing everyone, his real motivation is that he just wants to get back home at all costs.

  • GILMORE™||

    Aside from saying "the robot was funny"... (and i can only assume you mean the dialogue...because the Lincoln-logs mechanical execution was retarded) ...

    ....you're not telling me anything about why "funny robot" does anything for the clusterfuck of a plot. Its just window dressing.

    Your comments on matt damon's role aren't any different. Yes, the "father of the space exploration program" wants to go home. we know. We pointed out how this is extremely stupid and makes everything else in the film even more pointless. Because even if everything was fine and dandy, you'd still have had retardo-Damon prepared to blow up the human race because he had cabin fever.

  • GILMORE™||

    scratch that = i don't care. thanks

  • Caress of Woodchipper||

    I *wanted* to like Interstellar!

    Tried to!

    It's just dumb, though. And too much M. Night Shamalwhatever-esque. Oooh, a twist!

    But hey, at least it gets a 6 minutes puff-piece on Proletariat Radio about "Hey, look how accurate the blackhole physics are! This is what a blackhole really would look like!! We asked physicists!"

  • ||

    Really? You drive your ship straight into a blackhole and survive that? I seriously doubt that any astrophysicists would tell you that.

  • LynchPin1477||

    You could survive crossing the event horizon, absolutely. The deadly part of a black hole at that point is tidal force, but for very massive black holes it is low at the event horizon. Stellar mass black holes would actually kill you, though.

    As for everything that happens inside the black hole...

  • ||

    You will get crushed into oblivion before you get inside the blackhole, so it doesn't matter what happens inside, you'll be dead.

  • LynchPin1477||

    No, you won't. When you are falling you are in...free fall. Literally. A free-falling body feels no force..

    The tidal forces could cause spashettification but around supermassive black holes the differential force of gravity between your head and feet is small enough that you could survive.

  • ||

    As Spaghetti you?

  • LynchPin1477||

    I'm more of a bucatini guy.

    Back on the topic of black holes, if the black hole is rotating it literally drags spacetime around with it (the effect is called frame dragging). Since spacetime will be rotating faster at your feet than at your head, not only will you spaghettified, but you'll also be twisted, as if the black hole were a fork and you were a delicious ball of pasta.

    Astronomers come up with a lot of ideas during dinner.

  • Cytotoxic||

    I've heard speculation that the black hole will spit you out into the 'other end'.

  • Agammamon||

    There's not a lot for an astronomer to do while waiting for the camera to finish an exposure.

  • GILMORE™||

    "You drive your ship straight into a blackhole and survive that?"

    And then you discover "Love is a force like gravity and transcends time and space".

    makes total sense. also, Divorce is like anti-matter and stuff.

  • ||

    Yeah, astrophysicists are always talking about that, it's totally true stuff, just like man made global warming. Ok, it's a lot more crazy than that, I admit.

  • Caress of Woodchipper||

    To be fair, the piece was mostly about how the black hole looked from outside.

    But it was obviously a sponsored story, on whatever program it was. Talk about a movie and claim it has real science.

    Oh, and there was nothing redeeming about Prometheus

  • ||

    The visuals in Prometheus are great. So for me, that's something redeeming. The ship in the movie is fucking awesome.

  • LynchPin1477||

    Kip Thorne, who is a brilliant relativist (the general kind) consulted on fair amount of the science, and the visuals actually were accurate (they used the real general relativistic equations to do the rendering). So there was a lot of accurate science in it.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Another problem I had with that movie was the whole 'fungus is eating our atmosphere and crops' plot device thing. Pretty sure it would be less work and a surer bet to just genetically modify the hell out of your crops instead of going to space through a wormhole.

  • ||

    GMOs BAD!

  • Austrian Anarchy||

    So they killed Monsanto and this is the future we got. Thanks concern trolls!

  • Crusty Juggler||

    it seems like a movie to make dumb people feel smart. ooh, relativity. yes, very interesting.


    Did you just call me dumb?
  • Crusty Juggler||

    Apparently I am. :(

  • AlmightyJB||

    Crusty, you're not dumb. You're just a terrible person:)

  • Crusty Juggler||

    How dare you!

    Also, how did you find out?

  • AlmightyJB||

    Take's one to know one:)

  • SIV||

    Inception blew dead dog dicks.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Congrats, you have shit taste in movies.

  • Overt||

    yet the big brains don't bother to survey the places they're planning to land before planting their spacecraft in the path of a 2,000ft tidal-wave ...

    They did survey it. The problem was that the "Survey Team" sent one "good" message (which was reflected multiple times, appearing to be a repeating good message) prior to being killed by the tidal wave. Due to relativity, this happening in a couple hours was decades to us. The point is that relativity would have made this impossible to observe from a survey mission. Spend a month looking down there and all you would see is a large bulge of water standing in place.

    (which - hey, look = science! - would have drained water towards itself from many many miles ahead of its path... because that's how waves work, scientists)

    It wasn't a wave though. It was a tide. A big bulge of water moving around the planet along with the gravitational pull of the black hole.

    All that said, I didn't think the movie was that great. It was your standard post-modern trope- the greatest thing to fear is ourselves. I knew that dude was going to go crazy the minute they showed him.

  • GILMORE™||

    "It wasn't a wave though. It was a tide."

    Fair point. However its even worse then because that should have been entirely predictable once they observed the surface and were in its time-scale.

    the whole way that segment was treated kind of popped the balloon of how 'serious' the movie was treating the science part of the science-fiction. Basically, everyone was retarded. They just wasted 28 years fucking around for no result...which they probably could have determined with a quick fly-by. The matt damon sequence elevated it to full-retard.

    In fact, the largest criticism is that the movie is @#$(&*%@# 3 hours long, and the "essential plot elements" are so few and far between that much of the movie is just filller for a thin plot core.

    In fact most of the ending is unnecessary because 'after saving the human race'.... well, there's the messy fact that poor anne hathaway was completely disregarded. Whoops! no one bothered to check on her despite her believing she's the last steward of humanity.

  • ThomasD||

    I thought it had potential, with plenty of dramatic elements and (potentially) thought provoking themes. But it needed way more fleshing out and better storycraft.

    Rather than a three hour movie it could have made a very decent miniseries.

  • LynchPin1477||

    THIS IS WHY THERE ARE NO LIBERTARIAN...anyones

    /sad trombone

  • LynchPin1477||

    and to take your girlfriends to strip clubs while you seduce the dancers in the back room

    And TIWTANLW.

  • AlmightyJB||

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    After my wife got her epidural, we watched that in the hospital. The laughing helped with the labor.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Nice:) Yeah, that's a classic.

  • Number.6||

    We watched "The Meaning of Life". Some of the nursing staff were appalled.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "...were a State run by a beneficent philosopher-king, and were his edicts carried out by magnanimous servants of the people, then perhaps eugenic measures could work."

    He offers the world ORDER!

  • ||

    You know who else offered the world order?

  • Quincy.||

    The Marquis de Condorcet?

  • Rhywun||

    Bernard Sumner, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris, and Gillian Gilbert?

  • Pan Zagloba||

    God dammit, shall we never be rid of the Curse of Utilitarianism?!

    Fucking hell, people, Crime and Punishment, demolishing of that horrible, anti-human philosophy, was written 150 years ago.

  • LynchPin1477||

    the Executive Committee has done the right thing in refusing to expel a member of the Party without a clear violation of the Non-Aggression Principle

    Free association, how does it fucking work?

  • ||

    It really makes me laugh when this guy says that people 'have to' listen to him because he has a law degree and lots of bucks. Um, sorry to disappoint you libertarian guy, but no they don't and I doubt that they will, for any longer than it takes to figure out you're a nutcase.

  • Steve G||

    Oh great, the lightbringer is gonna bring "impassioned speech", part duh direct to Roseburg, OR.

  • Caress of Woodchipper||

    I saw the former Florida LP chair speak at a Bitcoin conference when he was running for Florida Gov. Can't remember exactly what it was, but something about him struck me as a bit off/crazy. I want to say it may have been a "no driver license" thing (that's on the membership application for the LP, right? No violence, and no driver license?)

  • ||

    http://mashable.com/2015/10/05.....FdFyR5BSq9

    Can you be liberal AND eat Chick-fil-A?

    Yes. Someone seriously asked this.

  • ||

    I don't know how that is surprising. These are people who are waiting to be told what to think and then thinking accordingly. If their masters have not answered that question, then how are they supposed to know?

  • AlmightyJB||

    Everyone want's to be a blogger, but not everyone has something interesting to say.

  • ||

    And Salon and New Republic writers are out to prove that, as long as it takes rambling on about nothing.

  • lap83||

    homophobic/misogynistic chicken

    I'm familiar with the homophobic thing, but what is supposed to be misogynistic about Chik Fil A?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    but what is supposed to be misogynistic about Chik Fil A?


    Their humiliation of female bovines.

  • AlmightyJB||

    chick

  • Tejicano||

    Aaahhh...

  • SIV||

    You missed the better Mashable story:

    COTTON PONY EXTINCTION!

  • AlmightyJB||

    no.

  • Bradley Strider||

    I'd support a goat-sacrificing pagan over Roger Stone in a heartbeat. Where do I sign the petition?

  • Juvenile Bluster||

    This insane piece of shit is going to destroy the Florida LP.

    I may take my ballot into the restroom next year and wipe my ass with it. It'd be better than anybody on the ballot.

  • AlmightyJB||

    We have touchscreen

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Good. The poop will stand out more with the backlight.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • ||

    Hey HM, have you ever played any of the space flight games? I'm looking at Elite Dangerous, but I have zero experience with that type of game. It looks cool, but I'm not sure if I would like it or have to buy a HOTAS so play it. I'm bored.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Hey HM, have you ever played any of the space flight games?

    The only recent one I've played was X Rebirth, which was a huge disappointment...but back in the day I loved the Wing Commander series and Descent. Elite reminds me of Wing Commander: Privateer, which was an fun game. Do you like dogfighting? That's what I find fun about these games.

  • ||

    X Rebirth to me, looks like the best one. But the reviews are still pretty terrible. I haven't played any of that genre and I'm just sort of burnt and want to try something new. I've been playing RPGs and FPS games for so many years.

    I can't really answer the question of if I like dogfighting since I've never tried it. I have zero experience in any type of game that might require a flight stick or HOTAS setup. The fighting does look cool in Elite, but the things that have me interested are exploration and trading, with some fighting to escape boredom. The game is still fairly new and unexplored, so it's probably a good time to get in before too many people do. I was looking at Star Citizen, but the development is very slow and it's crazy what they are asking for an alpha game.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Well, keep in mind that many of the negative reviews of X Rebirth stem from a) past quality of the previous games in the series, b) Day 1 the game was basically broken until they released a patch.

    I view Star Citizen the same way as I do as an investment in a timeshare development in a Florida swamp somewhere. You can pick up a basic flight stick pretty cheap and if you like it, upgrade to a Saitek setup. I did a lot of regular flight simming (GA and combat) so I already have a flight stick, throttle, and rudders lying around.

    I see they are still selling used Microsoft Sidewinders for 18 bucks.

    Still, if you're looking for exploration and trading, I've heard good things about this game...and it's free.

  • ||

    Thanks, I'll check out the Ascent game, I haven't look at that one yet. Maybe since it's free, I can get a feel of the genre.

    This is the HOTAS that I was looking at, less than $50:

    Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X Flight Stick

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    It seems like that would be uncomfortable to use as HOTAS usually is set up where you can have stick on the right side of your keyboard and the throttle on the left at shoulder length apart. That seems like you'd have to scrunch up your shoulders a bit, which could get uncomfortable for long periods of time.

    You can actually get one of these used for the same price.

  • ||

    That actually splits apart. If you look at it, you can see that it's not a solid unit. The contours fit together, but it's two separate pieces.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    'Ah, I see,' said the blind man to his deaf wife.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Star Citizen has been the subject of a lot of controversy lately. Spoiler: it's never getting made.

  • ||

    You mean never getting released? It already has some content. Release is supposed to be late 2016, but there's plenty of skepticism about that.

  • Cytotoxic||

    There's some content, and about 8 million dollars left of the original 90 million dollars according to anonymous sources. They guy behind it is way to ambitious, is probably a terrible boss, has inflicted too much feature creep on his project, and is probably running out of money.

  • ||

    This is why I have, at least for now, stopped backing early access games.

    They want $80 for the smallest entry level version of the game. No way.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Stop backing early access and stop pre-ordering. Pre-ordering = you deserve to be robbed.

  • MJGreen - Docile Citizen||

    Privateer is one of the best games ever. I bought it a while back from GOG, but it's kinda pointless until I buy a joystick.

  • ||

    Looks extremely dated. I'm sort of a graphics whore.

  • Number.6||

    State of the art, back in the day.

    Shame the storyline was so lame at the end.

  • lap83||

    A quick search shows he has kids, so that's probably the real reason he's at the store and knows about it. But I prefer to think he's a Pokemon Master

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Who can resist wanting to be the very best, like no one ever was?

  • ||

    Which is superior, Pokeman Master, or Brony Master?

  • lap83||

    Pokemon Master, at least he has the potential to be an adult someday

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Especially considering we live in a world where this exists.

  • ||

    Very disturbing, lol.

  • Quincy.||

    Pikachu is a CIA plant?

  • Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)||

    I would shit my pants if I had to face off against Winston Zedmore with a store-bought deck

    See, you can find some wisdom on Youtube, if you look long enough.

  • The Grinch||

    The OTO are a bunch of pussies. For real devil-worshiping debauchery, the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn is where it's at.

  • ||

    Golden Dawn.. that sounds familiar.. aren't they Greek? So Satanist AssSex fanatics who like Mexicans?

  • The Grinch||

    Surprisingly close.

  • jdgalt||

    This is why the LP is a dead end. Until it has leadership willing to purge kooks, it will never get anywhere.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    I don't think Florida law allows that sort of purging.

    They can disavow him and publicize the disavowal, and I think they've kind of done that.

  • ||

    You can't really purge kooks, but you could stop them from becoming party leadership. Only Democrats can get away with not doing that since they have the full support of the media. But we're supposed to be the party of reason and logic, not the right wing version of the Democrats.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    I bet Mr. Invictus is kicking himself for not running as a Democrat.

    Imagine the headlines: "Religion-based attacks on candidate raise concerns about separation of church and state."

  • AlmightyJB||

    I actually would not be surprised to find out the guy was a DHS plant. I think they are usually are more discreet with their entrapment schemes though. They seem to be getting more bold with everything else so why not with setting people up.

  • ||

    Or a Democrat or even Republican establishment plant.

  • PapayaSF||

    If he's not a plant to them, he's a gift to them.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    "...he has not yet filed the over $10,000 fee or over 100,000 signatures he needs to officially be on the ballot."

    When I first read that, I thought it meant that he had to submit both the filing fee *and* the signatures, but hasn't done either one yet. Ballotpedia makes clear that candidates have the option of paying the filing fee *or* getting the signatures.

  • Brian Doherty||

    That's why the word "or" is in the sentence.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    Has anyone linked to this yet?

  • ||

    Not one of his better tunes from the Randy Rhoads days. I personally like Over the Mountain and Flying High Again, two of my favorites, both from Diary of a Madman.

  • Rhywun||

    I only have Blizzard of Ozz and I still love it the way you can only love an album you played the absolute shit out of when you were 14. Sounds like I should get the 2nd album?

  • ||

    You definitely should. If I am remembering correctly, a couple of tunes I like from Blizzard are 'I don't know' and 'Goodbye to Romance'. Is that right?

    I love the guitar solo on Over the Mountain, totally fucking badass, if you've never heard that you need too, classic Rhoads.

  • Rhywun||

    Yeah those are on Blizzard. Crazy Train is my favorite - amazing.

  • AlmightyJB||

    I remember listening to Blizzard and the long keyboard section was on and my mom's like who is that, I really like that.? I said that's Ozzy, she like no it isn't. Ok mom.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Yeah, Over the Mountain kicks ass. I love all things Ozzy. I have the Randy Rhodes tribute CD which is awesome.

  • AlmightyJB||

    I love Crowley. I used to play Blizzard of Oz non-stop.

  • american socialist||

    I like him-- although I think he would be a bad choice for an acid trip partner. as for his rhetoric... Eh... It's about 12% crazier than a moderate right-winger and 6% less crazy than the right-wing fringe. In other words,.. A bridge builder... between the Glenn beck and Alex jones' constituencies.

  • Rhywun||

    OT: To anyone who doubts the uniqueness of our little community here... I direct you to the comment section of a magazine I actually respect. The commenters, not so much. I disagree with the tone of this article but at least it's argued in good faith. The mag is full of so-cons so I expect this sort of thing. But the comments... holy hell.

  • ||

    I post often at WaPo. Not as much as here. The most amusing thing about that experience to me, is that most of the conservatives attack me because they think I'm a liberal, and most of the leftists attack me because they think I'm a conservative. The inability of both sides there to think outside of the box is amazing in a sad way.

  • Rhywun||

    City Journal is weird because most of the writers lean libertarian and/or conservative but all the commenters are like leftists' worst nightmares of right-wing kooks.

  • ||

    Lol, I'm going to check it out.

  • ||

    I think I know this Juggler dude.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Yeah, that's pretty funny:)

  • Rhywun||

    OMG I just went back and saws Jug's devious handiwork. Bravo.

  • Rhywun||

    BTW I put my real name there by mistake - I am "Patrick".

  • AlmightyJB||

    St. Patrick?

  • Rhywun||

    I ain't no saint.

  • lap83||

    Patrick Bateman?

  • Number.6||

    Patrick Starfish?

  • ||

    You do have to admit that this comment is at least funny:

    On a sunny day, the Irish LGBT community may swell to, what, .005% of the total population? Still, according to the dictates of progressive SJW knee-jerks, the tiniest minority can overpower the largest majority. Before long we'll have Left-handed Irish LGBT Dwarfs Who Survived Hurricane Katrina demanding their own segment of the parade

  • Rhywun||

    It's an Irish parade, so "total population" doesn't matter. Also, the gays weren't denied due to numbers, they were denied because being gay is against god or something.

  • ||

    This is the part I'm talking about being funny:

    Before long we'll have Left-handed Irish LGBT Dwarfs Who Survived Hurricane Katrina demanding their own segment of the parade

    Classic libertarian style sarcasm.

  • Rhywun||

    Well, it's sarcasm, I'll give you that.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    most of the conservatives attack me because they think I'm a liberal, and most of the leftists attack me because they think I'm a conservative

    What about those of us who just think you are a douche-nozzle?

  • ||

    That would just be you and no one cares what you say, dipshit. You still mad because of that last debate that I publicly embarrassed you in? Is it that I posted that video of you licking Hillary's cankles, or is it that I came to Dogdick and there were no bands of Christians roaming the streets looking for another chance to buttrape the Shreek?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    You've never been to Dogdick, GA. Don't lie to me. Everyone here is armed and we shoot you Yankees on sight.

  • ||

    I'm not a Yankee, dipshit. You're really slipping.

  • Tejicano||

    A buttplug calling somebody a douche-nozzle.... is this the 21st century replacement for the old pot/kettle thing?

  • PapayaSF||

    I laughed.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    What did you expect from the home of Heather Mac Donald?

  • Rhywun||

    Well, that's not entirely fair because they do have a variety of viewpoints and she happens to fill the cop-sucking slot. She's actually good on culture war stuff - kind of like a sane Ann Coulter.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    There is a classic liberal site where the comment section is actually sane with very little of the dickishness and TEAM RED! bravado we see here.

    http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/

    We’re an online journal of politics and foreign affairs analysis. For the most part, our views are Classical Liberal: a strong belief in free trade, limited government, and respect for human rights. We aim to have informed, polite conversation about the issues which we find interesting.

    It is like a Seinfeld bizarro world comparing this site/comments and the one above.

  • fuckyougotmine||

    I love Reason's comment sections, they remind me of 4chan's /b/ only more pathetic and ridiculous.

  • ||

    There is no cheer leading for Team Red here. Only in your head. Holy moly, why do you keep to this notion?

  • ||

    Look at that. So our new troll is actually Tony, Shreek's lover. I called it first.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    You're full of shit, Rufus.

  • ||

    Right, and fuckyougotmine is not your lover, Tony. Sure, whatever.

  • ||

    I'm full of shit?

    I'M FULL OF SHIT?

    You keep coming here talking about how the folks here pull for Team Red when you know that's false.

    Bah.

    Why bother?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    It's no secret that you French Canadians always vote Republican.

  • ||

    Now you're just being deliberately Californian.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    You're an idiot, Rufus.

    You don't even notice how anyone who is critical of the GOP is called a "troll" here (like me).

  • ||

    If that were the case, everyone here would be called a troll.

  • Contrarian P||

    You're a troll because you do nothing but post garbage about how everything Obama does is wonderful and how George Bush is inexplicably to blame for all things wrong with the world. It really does get tiresome. You're pretty much a one issue poster. Obama good/Bush bad. Just about everyone here thinks they both sucks. And that's why you're a troll.

  • ||

    Don't forget, Christians are also to blame for all the world's ills, along with Bush. But that's pretty much it, outside of a little Warren Buffet worship.

    He loves Hillary also, he's just ashamed to admit it right now. But if the Hildabeast gets the nomination, he'll go full in cankle licking mode, guaranteed.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    You're full of shit too. Obama is hardly a libertarian but he is much more of one than any GOPer rival of his.

    This TEAM RED! worship here needs to end.

    And the idiocy is that you all know that the GOP has disappointed you time and time again yet you say "this time will be different" while Rand Paul circles the toilet at 2%.

    Leave the GOP Plantation, dude!

    Just leave it.

    You will feel better.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Cool progjection story bro

  • Contrarian P||

    Obama is not a libertarian. He is pretty much the antithesis of everything libertarian. I'm not saying the GOP rivals are any better. No, they're just as bad. But his whole presidency has been one continuous battering to the genitals of any libertarians who actually believed his campaign bullshit. Note again: none of his Republican rivals are any better. Can you comprehend that? Just because someone trashes Obama doesn't mean they're in favor of Republicans. See how that works?

  • ||

    Yeah, he just bombed a hospital to prove it. I'm convinced, Cap'n Murderdone is soooo libertarian.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Here - look at the real classic liberal web site I linked above when McCarthy admitted Benghazi was just a political witch hunt:

    Comment:

    It’s a good time to remind ourselves that when the Democrats took over Congress in 2006, they did not start investigating the Iraq War, or reopened the 9/11 reports, or went hard after torture, or made a fuss about the tens of millions of emails that the WH “lost.” But remember kids: both parties are the same!

    Highly-rated. Helpful or Unhelpful: Thumb up 72 Thumb down 1

    Of course the 72 'thumbs up' is acknowledgement that Dems fight the GOP like pussies (which is true) while the GOP lie like thieves for political gain.

  • MJGreen - Docile Citizen||

    Good lord you're tiresome. What are you doing with your life?

  • Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)||

    Coke?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    He's running out of ways to do it. Mucus membranes: gone.

    He either smokes it or butt chugs it.

  • Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)||

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    "Are you my mom?"

    "No Buttplug, I hate you!".

  • LynchPin1477||

    I'll readily admit that the Republicans had extra motivation to go after Hillary for political reasons.

    Doesn't make the email stuff any less illegal or awful.

    I wish the Democrats had gone after more Republicans from the Bush years, especially on the torture and warrantless wire tapping. And I wish Republicans had gone after Clapper and the Obama admin on the NSA stuff.

    There are plenty of criminals in both parties and if it takes political motivation to flush them out, so be it.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Yours is actually a rational comment, Lynchpin. Are you sure you belong here?

    Democrats are pussies. They should have impeached all the Bushpigs when they had the political power.

    DOG knows the GOP would have since they impeached over a blowjob from a chunky intern.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Clinton lost his law license because he got a blowjob?

    Are you sure you're not a partisan liar?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    No, Clinton got impeached over a blowjob.

    A liberal gentleman wouldn't ratfuck another over a BJ. But I forget - you're a partisan fucking GOP ratfuck hack.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I can't decide if you're stupid or a liar. I'm leaning towards a combination of both.
    Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. But you already knew that.

  • Contrarian P||

    Impeached Bush for what exactly? I couldn't stand his presidency, but what was it he did that was illegal? Look, Clinton lied under oath. Spin it however you want, but he perjured himself. Was it enough to warrant impeachment? That's debatable, but he did perjure himself. It wasn't over "a blowjob". It's because he lied his ass off trying to cover up an affair so he didn't get embarrassed. Quit trying to revise history already.

  • Contrarian P||

    No kidding. The Bush White House had plenty of bad actors but the Obama administration, despite all the rhetoric, pretty much gave them all a pass as soon as the turnover happened.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    OK, so gay organizations get to march in the New York St. Patrick's Day parade.

    But there's still one Irish parade which, to my knowledge, still doesn't let gay groups in.

    But I'm sure the marchers are easygoing types who would cheerfully welcome a contingent from the Orange and Pink Paraders, with their signs reading "Hurrah for gay King Billy!"

  • Rhywun||

    I'm not even going to pretend to understand any of the intricacies going on in that hellhole.

  • ||

    Who cares what parade they march in. Why do they get to dictate the colors of the parade? It's an Irish parade, right? So it's always been green. Do heterosexuals march in a parade and tell the parade organizers that the parade has to be changed from green to another color?

  • Notorious UGCC||

    I think the dispute is over whether gay groups get to march under their own gay banners.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    The pink and orange remark is me joking about a gay group trolling the Orange parade on July 12.

  • Cytotoxic||

    That is one awesomely hugs bonfire!

  • Brian||

    Shouldn't someone be along to mention how libertarians don't self-identify, or something, and how it's all our fault?

  • Quincy.||

    INVICTUS 2016!

  • fuckyougotmine||

    This guy sounds pretty mainstream for a glibertarian.

  • ||

    Yabba-dabba-doo.

    Yabba-dabba-doo.

    Yabba-dabba-doo.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I was just thinking that the quality of our trolls has gone downhill lately.

    Go on...

  • ||

    It's Tony.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    No, it's Mary. Tony is out and proud about being a combative Team Blue shill.

  • ||

    It left a remark in another thread that sounded too much like Tony, I'm almost sure.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I take it the PhD program isn't going well for that thing.

  • ||

    You sound...disappointed.

  • ||

    Right Tony, shut the fuck up. Go get a job at Burger King like I told you to do, they hire the retarded, and stop annoying everyone.

  • PapayaSF||

    He can't. The minimum wage is already too high to hiring that quality of employee. It just doesn't make economic sense.

  • Notorious UGCC||

    "He asked me about certain of my writings, I tried to explain the doctrine of transhumanism, Nietzsche, who thought mankind must be overcome, I don't know, clearly I didn't explain it well."

    Could *anyone*?

  • AlmightyJB||

  • AlmightyJB||

  • sasob||

    The Senate candidate also says he knows federal agents will be listening and will eventually come to arrest him.

    More likely men in white coats.

  • Austrian Anarchy||

    Just saw that Jobs movie. Was too softball for that dick.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Was it interesting at all?

  • Austrian Anarchy||

    It was the CNN documentary.

    Yes, it was somewhat interesting. It did cover some new-to-me total bullshit on his part, which seemed to be whenever he was speaking or just awake. I must have forgotten about all the back-dated stocks and options stuff.

    Something else I forgot was how he screwed Woz on Breakout when they were at Atari.

    No, he was not shown in a good light at all, which was still much too good for him.

  • ||

    Leftists seem to worship the guy. I guess they give a special break to certain capitalists who run Chinese sweat shops.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I liked Steve Jobs. Great capitalist, liberal - and not a redneck conservative asshole.

  • Sevo||

    "I liked Steve Jobs. Great capitalist, liberal - and not a redneck conservative asshole."

    You would. He was a hypocritical piece of crap who (fortunately) had advisers who kept him from screwing up too badly.
    By dint of luck, he timed the market for stylish e-toys, but remained a new-age idjit who died from his stupidity.
    Right up your alley, turd.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Jobs did some innovative stuff during his first stint at Apple. During his second stint, as far as I can tell, all he did was rip off ideas from other companies and turn into over-priced hipster shitware and blatantly aimed his computers at people who were fucking clueless at operating a computer. "I like it because it just works! Uh oh, it's not working time to go to idiot remediation the Apple store.

  • GamerFromJump||

    I'm in the camp of liking the devices (especially iPod Classic), but I wouldn't buy a computer from them on a bet. I might take one free, and then put Win10 or Linux on it.

  • lap83||

    Jobs was a poser. He didn't even write code

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    You don't have to write code to be a great capitalist.

    See Warren Buffet or George Soros.

  • ||

    Buttplug is worshipping his crony heroes again. Don't worry, Shreek, you can lick those cankles, I know you want to.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    OMG! Buffett and Soros aren't TEAM RED! assholes!

    I am sorry I admire their genius!

    Forgive me, Oh TEAM RED ASSHOLE TYPE!

  • Cytotoxic||

    Your persecution complex and ability to look into the minds of others rivals that of John. Maybe you're the same person.

  • ||

    Funny that, neither did Suckerberg.

  • lap83||

    Dammit, it's a Silicon Valley reference

  • ||

    Hyperion|10.5.15 @ 10:47PM|#|–|filternamelinkcustom

    Leftists seem to worship the guy.

    Palin's Buttplug|10.5.15 @ 10:57PM|#|–|filternamelinkcustom

    I liked Steve Jobs


    Wow, I am truly schocked.

  • Sevo||

    Palin's Buttplug|10.5.15 @ 10:57PM|#|–|filternamelinkcustom
    "I liked Steve Jobs"

    Maybe turd will contract cancer and chase new age cures! The world would be better off.

  • Austrian Anarchy||

    All you have to be is barefoot and smelly for that crowd. Say you dropped acid and they think you are a god.

  • MJGreen - Docile Citizen||

    The drama or the documentary? The documentary is pretty negative.

  • aldousd666||

    He's talking in parables. He says eugenics could work if you have Plato in charge, note that he's not actually campaigning on the platform of Plato. It's a satirical comment, and definitely not appropriately labelled for... well, anyone who doesn't recognize his sense of humor. Anyway, I couldn't vote for the guy because he'll be SO misunderstood and SO taken out of context that people, if they actually listened to the things he said, misunderstanding, would probably end up killing people in his name. That WOULD be nuts.

  • ||

    There's no excuse for supporting Eugenics. And today, it is not even a viable option to cure hereditary diseases and other things he is talking about when the technology to do so is so close to becoming reality.

  • Cytotoxic||

    "There's no excuse for supporting Eugenics."

    With enough knowledge, and on a strictly voluntary basis, we probably could breed a better human. But right now eugenics is pure pseudo-science, and the tech you mention will allow us to build better humans without breeding them in. CRISPR-CAS doesn't need multiple generations. Hell, with a good enough delivery vehicle, it won't need any.

  • ||

    DNA editing is fine as long as it's what the individual wants. Trying to kill off 'undesirables' and selectively breed humans like cattle is beyond immoral.

  • Cytotoxic||

    There's nothing moral about carrying a defective fetus to term. That's just putting a burden on the parents. Getting rid of it and replacing it with a better fetus is good for the parents, and if the problem was genetic, helps the genetics of humanity.

    Actually it would even be a good idea to eliminate fetus's containing a bad recessive allele like those for muscular dystrophy, even if it's recessive and the fetus is heterozygous. That will get us closer to eliminating that disease.

  • lap83||

    Never have kids

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I don't think that's an issue. Sexual reproduction is out of the question.

  • SIV||

    What Hyperion says

  • GamerFromJump||

    Eugenics is unacceptable, genetics should be actively pursued.

    Doctor: Hmm, it looks like your child has a gene for MS.

    Parent: Oh no, what do we do?

    Doctor: No problem; a simple gene typo, easy fix. Here's the readout; Gene Repair is down the hall.

  • PapayaSF||

    I disagree. There's nothing inherently immoral in wanting people to be smarter, healthier, stronger, more attractive, or exhibit any such positive quality. And there's nothing immoral in wanting less of the opposite of those things. There's a lot of distance, and many options, in between those desires and involuntary sterilization and death camps. Eugenics makes a lot of sense, but that's not an endorsement of anything involuntary.

  • aldousd666||

    He isn't supporting eugenics. You totally missed my point. He said "IF" you have a philosopher king, which is NOT what he is supporting. It was a joke that only people who have read the same literature (and understood it) would get. Your comment is a perfect illustration of what I mean by people would misinterpret him, and it would be a disaster.

  • aldousd666||

    He isn't supporting eugenics. You totally missed my point. He said "IF" you have a philosopher king, which is NOT what he is supporting. It was a joke that only people who have read the same literature (and understood it) would get. Your comment is a perfect illustration of what I mean by people would misinterpret him, and it would be a disaster.

  • hurts_donut||

    All this talk about goat sorcery is getting me super wet.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Well, no one's topping that. Good night.

  • ||

    Yeah the perv cake has changed hands again. I don't want the perv cake, you never know where it's been.

  • Number.6||

    Everyone wants perv cake ... etc

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • ||

    Ok, you just had to start this,didn't you?

    Walk like and Egyptian

  • ||

    'an'

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    That song would never be made in today's PC climate.

    P.S. Would bang present day Suzanna Hoffs.

  • SIV||

    Absolutely

  • SIV||

  • GILMORE™||

    I met Andre Williams during Mardi Gras in like 1995. Corner of ...(checks map) ...Decatur and Esplanade, across from the Louisiana Music factory.

    I only recognized him because I'd seen him open for John Spencer Blues Explosion in NY, doing this song. And then i saw him about a week later getting photographed with the band in Madison Square.

    He was wearing a white and gold satin jacket which said, "ANDRE WILLIAMS, PUSSY KING" or something like that, so, even if i had no idea who he was, that would probably have made an impression. I said hello, and he offered me a royal tip of the hat. He was a man who understood fashion.

  • GILMORE™||

    *footnote =

    that was the "Now I got worry" era... where i think andre williams did 1 or 2 tracks with them.

    but the Blues Explosion continued to do stuff with Andre Williams for another few years. e.g. "The Black Godfather".

  • SIV||

    Last time I saw John Spencer it was back in the day

  • GILMORE™||

    I'd never seen boss hogg or pussy galore

    I always liked that strain of NY rock. It seemed like the east coast answer to the Minutemen. Or a less self-important response to Fugazi. Just "real rock & roll".... but with a sense of humor instead of anal-retentiveness.

  • GILMORE™||

    Although maybe i'm mixing him up with the RL Burnside collaboration

    I know Andre toured with JSBX, whereas i think RL recorded a bunch of tunes with them

  • Lungshot||

    So! The GOP has Trump! Nanny nanny boo boo.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    You must worship the Trump. You must get on your hands and knees and thank Gawd that the Trump will save you from the hordes of Mexicans and Liberals assaulting America.

    DO IT NOW!

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    How much coke tonight? Be honest. Just a little bump?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I wish I had some good yayo.

  • hurts_donut||

    What does rubbing it on your teeth and gums do?

  • hurts_donut||

    How about Trump coming out with this:

    http://news.antiwar.com/2015/0.....ver-syria/

    He's an asshole but he comes out with a lot of reasonable positions.

  • Hank Phillips||

    Compared to machine Republicans, yeah. Trump and Mrs Clinton look pretty good compared to asset-forfeiture Prohibitionists. When was the last time you missed the Whig Party? Too bad voters dissatisfied with ku-klux bigots and People's State dems will never find out about genuine libertarian candidates at this rate. Reason clearly has nobody better to write about than Lyndon LaRouche and Ross Perot clones.

  • Almanian - just Almanian||

    Well, this guy's really gonna help the brand, amirite?

  • hurts_donut||

    Oh for sure. A goat fucking sorcerer that wants to toe tag a bunch of jugheads should boost the brand quite a bit.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Everybody's callin' the shooter in Oregon a libertarian. The libertarian moment!

    Rand Paul is polling at less than 1%.

    Our brand is already shit.

    If it weren't for Gillespie and Postrel, it might be even worse, but I'm not sure a goat sacrificing, Satanic, wilderness gamboling nudist can hurt the brand any more at this point.

    He's flogging a deal mule.

  • Sevo||

    Well, the D's just manage to have the issue ignored:
    "Trump in '04: 'I probably identify more as Democrat'"
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/21/.....index.html

  • JeremyR||

    Yeah, a guy who does a Fonz impression really helps the cause.

    And is Postrel ever do anything except write a column two-three times a year? She's pretty much invisible in a sea of liberal pundits.

  • Coop||

    Here is an article about a former Libertarian Party candidate in Canada who was booted out of the party in September. The guy has been scamming people out of millions of dollars with ponzi schemes and fraud.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/scand.....35700.html

  • Sevo||

    OT
    Weren't 'stakeholder' holdings in evil korpurashuns supposed to make them all warm and fuzzy?

    "The dramatic return of Mr. Piëch,78-years-old and one of Volkswagen’s largest shareholders, was a turnaround from his sudden resignation as chairman of the supervisory board in April. He was forced to step down when representatives of the Prime Minister of the state of Lower Saxony, which holds 20% of Volkswagen’s voting stock, and powerful labor representatives on the board blocked Mr. Piëch’s attempt to oust Mr. Winterkorn.
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/at.....1444064101

    It's corporate machinations like Fortune used to cover before it went crony (remember when it blew the whistle on Enron?).
    Regardless, the supposedly 'enlightened' members of the board had zero effect on the issue.

  • hurts_donut||

    Everybody has a sad story on The Voice. What if someone was a good singer and wasn't involved in an airplane crash or something. They're fucked.

  • SIV||

  • PapayaSF||

    So now the Libertarians are beclowned. I guess it was inevitable. Dems and Reps have been going through their own hilarious contortions this election cycle, so why not Libertarians, too?

    Of course this will be seized upon by the Left and large elements of the Right as Proving What We've Always Said About Libertarians... *SIGH*

    Signing off, but here's a good debunking of that Missed Connection I posted recently. Sorry about that! A bunch of people sent me this story by a B-52 pilot who was going to commit suicide out of guilt for bombing Vietnamese, but a beautiful woman saved his life by having coffee with him. Well, it didn’t happen. They never met. This is poorly written fiction.

  • Coop||

    Here is an article about a former Libertarian Party candidate in Canada who was booted out of the party in September. The guy has been scamming people out of millions of dollars with ponzi schemes and fraud.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/scand.....35700.html

  • Dilligaf||

    Thread TLDR;maybe manana-ish. Will nominate for "Award for best libertarian trolling 2015"

  • Chrxtoph3r||

    "Augustus Sol Invictus"

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    "Last night the LPF's executive committee voted on two motions, one to expel Invictus and one to condemn him for certain of his positions. The expulsion vote failed, seven against and five for."

    The expulsion vote FAILED?!?!?!

    ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL!!!

    "Exactly the degree to which Wyllie was being prevented by his fellows on the LPF executive committee from speaking out against Invictus is ambiguous, though Wyllie ultimately felt they were not sufficiently alarmed by the threat of Invictus to the Party's image."

    WTF???

    THEY VOTED TO NOT EXPEL HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    To WHAT degree, precisely, do you NOT expel a White Supremacist from your ranks before he collapses your entire agenda?!?!?!

    To the degree that you vote to NOT exclude him!

    This is NOT a question of competence or qualifications.

    This vote was one of support for the man's political ideology!

    Call it 'procedural' issues all you want...

  • Hank Phillips||

    Why didn't Wylie cream the Republican infiltrator in open debate?

  • simplybe||

    Well I learned one thing form this article. Only the well off or well connected can run for office. One would think a 100,000 signatures would be enough to have right to run for office in this FREE country of ours. Seems the richer you are the more free you are. I am 68 and this country sure has change. The Russians have troops in 2 countries and they are Satan incarnate. We have troops in 150 countries and we think we are the good guys.

  • SimonJester||

    Please see Notorious's comment above. The word "or" means something. You can pay the 10k, or get the sigs, you don't need both.

  • Hank Phillips||

    Whaddayamean "we," paleface? All over South America communists are elected to office on the strength of hopes that they will NOT help God's Own Prohibitionists in Amerika send death squads to torch their huts and shoot their children and dogs. Nobody even remembers the Soviets where the average age of the population is the same as it was in the US in 1930.

  • MattFC||

    It's shit like this that will continue to relegate LP to

  • MattFC||

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  • Coop||

    Here is an article about a former Libertarian Party candidate in Canada who was booted out of the party in September. The guy has been scamming people out of millions of dollars with ponzi schemes and fraud.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/scand.....35700.html

  • Hank Phillips||

    See how hard it is to come up with vote-getting candidates? The supply of whack-job escapees from fanatical cults and collectivist groupthink way exceeds demand. For each one of these Reason could at least showcase one effective candidate representing the party platform in the public eye. Wait... I just noticed the article is written by one of the antiabortion mystical infiltrators. That does explain things pretty neatly. Gemeinnutz vor Eigennutz, volkegnosse.

  • Hank Phillips||

    So Reason is finally taking time out from brushing of antichoice republican faces Trumped full of sand to talk about a "libertarian candidate"--a bloodthirsty nihilist infiltrator. Good work, guys! Why not interview the old commie anarchists who infiltrated us back in the 80s? Texas has over a hundred exemplary libertarian candidates working to lower taxes and repeal nationalsocialist religious laws. These candidates routinely bitch-slap the DemoGOP with vote counts in excess of 6%. So Reason has no space to devote to their campaigns? It wasn't like this when Poole was editor.

  • Jane C||

    Until I read the names Wylie and House, I thought this was an Onion article.

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