Debating Federally Funded School Lunches on Federally Funded Radio

Yesterday I debated the federal government's new guidelines for school lunches with Margo Wootan of the Center for Science in the Public Interest on Air Talk With Larry Mantle, which is carried by KPCC, an NPR affiliate in Pasadena. The most striking thing to me was Wootan's conviction, which seemed to be shared by Mantle and all of the callers, that if a federal program is popular (or "effective"), it does not matter whether it's authorized by the Constitution.

You can listen to the conversation here.