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Section 230

Section 230's Legal Protections for Internet Speech Face New Challenge

This week, senators heard testimony over the foundation for modern online conversations.

J.D. Tuccille | 3.20.2026 7:00 AM

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For 30 years, Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act has protected online speech, shielding platforms from liability for content posted by third parties. Basically, comments sections, discussion boards, and social media are made possible by that law. But Section 230 has long suffered attacks from people who don't like what they see published in the digital world. This week, the U.S. Senate Commerce Committee heard arguments from both those who favor maintaining the current free environment for online speech and those who want to roll it back or outright repeal its protections.

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Section 230 and the Gatekeepers

"It was only a short time ago that speech and newsworthiness was controlled by a handful of TV networks and giant newspaper publishers," Committee Chairman Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas) said in opening comments. "If you held a position they didn't want to print, or wasn't consistent with their political views, it didn't get said. The internet changed that, allowing anyone to bypass these gatekeepers and shape public opinion with their own views."

Cruz gave a brief history of the early legal treatment of online speech and the evolution of what became Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. Before passage of the law, court decisions gave internet platforms a choice between a completely hands-off approach to anything published by users on their sites, or else taking responsibility for all that was posted. That meant leaving even the vilest content up or assuming the impossible task of moderating everything. The new law created a middle ground.

"Congress included Section 230 to ensure that online platforms would not be liable for the illegal speech of another person," Cruz noted.

But Cruz went on to address modern concerns that big tech companies have become "the new speech police"—often in service to government agendas, as we saw under the Biden administration with the suppression of criticism directed at public health policy and discussion of Hunter Biden's laptop.

Cruz has also criticized the Trump administration, particularly Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chairman Brendan Carr, for squeezing disfavored speech through old-fashioned regulatory pressure. He proposed stripping the FCC of some of its authority as a consequence.

But while Cruz acknowledged support in some circles for legislative changes that would target tech firms that many of his allies see as political foes, he came out on the side of maintaining current protections. "I'm concerned that a full repeal or sunset would lead platforms to engage in worse behavior, to engage in more censorship, to protect themselves from litigation," he warned regarding Section 230. In this, Cruz will find plenty of support among free speech advocates.

'The Twenty-Six Words That Created the Internet'

Key language in Section 230 is often described as "the twenty-six words that created the internet." Those words are: "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider."

"Without Section 230, websites would be left with a menu of unattractive options to avoid lawsuits over their users' speech," Aaron Terr of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression wrote in 2023. "Many would likely change their business model and stop hosting user-generated content altogether, creating a scarcity of platforms that sustain our ability to communicate with each other online."

That potential end to hosting user-generated content in the form of comments, discussions, and social media posts lies at the core of Cruz's concern that fear of litigation would fuel greater censorship and return us to the days of gatekeepers controlling which ideas are aired for public debate.

"Section 230 has created space for social movements; enabled platforms to host the speech of activists and organizers; and allowed users and content creators on sites like Instagram, TikTok, and Twitch to reach an audience and make a living," commented Jenna Leventoff, senior policy counsel at the ACLU, after a 2024 House hearing on Section 230. "Platforms must be able to host user speech without the threat of constant lawsuits."

The Cato Institute's David Inserra agrees, writing that "Section 230 is a cornerstone of how online speech works in the United States. It allows websites and platforms to host user-generated content without being legally responsible for everything their users say, while still giving them the freedom to remove content that they and their users may find objectionable."

While skeptics of Section 230 hope that legal changes will rein in tech giants who muzzle some people and ideas on behalf of their own prejudices or their friends in government, Inserra believes the opposite is likely to occur: "Expanding platform liability would entrench large incumbents by raising legal and compliance costs that small and new companies cannot absorb, ultimately reducing competition and innovation."

An Internet Without Section 230 Is One With Less Free-Wheeling Speech

That is, Facebook and Google are in better positions to weather a less-friendly legal environment than are smaller operations that might be more philosophically inclined to host challenges to establishment opinions but would potentially face crippling consequences for doing so in the absence of Section 230.

Senators heard testimony on both sides of the debate, although members of the committee already hold firm opinions on the issue. While Cruz has come out in favor of retaining Section 230's protections for free speech, other members of the committee from both parties strongly disagree. Sens. Marsha Blackburn (R–Tenn.) and Amy Klobuchar (D–Minn.) have both signed on to a bipartisan bill sponsored by Sens. Lindsey Graham (R–S.C.) and Dick Durbin (D–Ill.) that would sunset Section 230.

"I am extremely pleased that there is such wide and deep bipartisan support for repealing Section 230, which protects social media companies from being sued by the people whose lives they destroy," Graham commented in December. He accused tech firms of "making billions of dollars in advertising revenue off some of the most unsavory content and criminal activity imaginable."

Of course, much of that allegedly objectionable content originates with users, who will be largely silenced in the absence of Section 230. Without the protection of the law, the internet might be a nicer place, but that's only because a great deal of free-wheeling discussion among regular people will be shut down.

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  1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

    "If you held a position they didn't want to print, or wasn't consistent with their political views, it didn't get said. The internet changed that, allowing anyone to bypass these gatekeepers and shape public opinion with their own views."

    Thanks Much to Section 230!!! Long live Section 230!!!

    ALSO note the below!!!

    https://reason.com/2023/01/02/twitter-files-reveal-politicians-officials-evading-the-constitutions-restrictions/?comments=true#comment-9858074
    When, in the USA, we have access to 1.14 billion web sites… Number of web sites today… https://siteefy.com/how-many-websites-are-there/ … I don’t care much about supposed censorshit! We also have phone calls, pamphlets, letters, word of mouth, smoke signals, telegraphs, Morse code, cryptic codes on the back-sides of stop signals, messages on cereal boxes, nano-molecules in your vaccines, tin-foil hats, ESP, clairvoyance, text messages, and… Now I will show my advanced years… EMAILS!!!!
    I wish that the whining crybabies would JUST SHUT UP about HOW horribly bad censorshit is today!!! In the USA at least… We have MORE access to MORE lies, every day! We can freely access more lies than you can shake your dick at!

    1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      Update from 2nd cite above:

      1,354,989,060

      TOTAL WEBSITES

      Currently, there are around 1.4 billion websites in the World

      206,211,019

      ACTIVE WEBSITES

      15% of these websites are active, 85% are inactive

    2. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      You left out carrier pigeons, which ironically has been shown to be faster to move very large data than the internet. A bird with 5 terabytes of microSD cards can do wonders.

      1. Sylvie1   2 months ago

        Within what flight range? Do carrier pigeon relays bring information a distance of, say, 10,000 miles, faster than the internet?

    3. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

      The question is: why do some people think that the First Amendment is a guarantee that YOUR speech and YOUR opinions will (or must) be heard by the public? The Bill of Rights in intended to prevent government from suppressing your opinions under color of the law, not to ensure that any silly opinion you might hold will be heard by anyone else.

      1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

        Yes, this! Truly free speech protects my rights to SNOT listen to (or hear or read) the wind-bags!

  2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    "making billions of dollars in advertising revenue off some of the most unsavory content and criminal activity imaginable."

    Sounds like they are already breaking the law then, Lindsey. If your statement is true - its not - then why not enforce the laws being broken. And really do you expect me to believe advertisers are willing to put their products on a platform showcasing criminal activity? Those same advertisers who pull ads at even the wiff of scandal let alone criminal behavior.

    1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      All true!!!

      With an exception... "...pull ads at even the wiff of scandal let alone criminal behavior."

      EXCEPT if scandals and criminal behavior originate with Dear Deep Orange Caligula-Shitler!!! Do SNOT pull Shitler's ads, or ye swill be sued and regulated out of existence!

  3. John Rohan   2 months ago

    I support Section 230 protections in theory, but it's being misused. Social media companies are trying to have it both ways - they want the protections of a neutral platform, like the telephone company. After all, AT&T can't be sued for slanderous statements sent through their system, and AT&T doesn't police what is said on their phones or text messages.

    By contrast, Facebook, YouTube, Reddit, etc DO police the statements on their platforms. They are acting much more like newspaper editors than the phone company. They ban users, delete comments, shadowban comments, make some comments more difficult to see, and elevate others more prominently. In other words, they have gone from just being a neutral platform to actively participating in the content that people can read. Under those circumstances, they should be ineligible for Section 230 protections.

    1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      That is not a misuse of 230, that is how it was designed. Sites are allowed to have their own content moderation polices as they wish.

      (2) Civil liability No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of—
      (A) any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected; or

      1. John Rohan   2 months ago

        Nope. First of all, that's about restricting posts and comments, yet social media companies actively PROMOTE certain posts and comments to make them more visible.

        Second of all, I certainly understand them restricting illegal material, like child porn or specific threats of violence. But they have gone way beyond that. For example, FB deleted posts and suspended accounts just for people saying covid originated in a Chinese lab. Reddit mods in certain subreddits ban users just for posting in other subreddits that they don't like!

        1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

          https://futurism.com/the-byte/twitter-suspending-more-people TWITTER UNDER "FREE SPEECH ABSOLUTIST" ELON MUSK IS ACTUALLY SUSPENDING WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN BEFORE. . .Twitter-in-the-Shitter under Elon Musk of the Elongated Tusk now follows in the shit-steps of “Parler”!!! Twat and UDDER slurprise!!! Parler censors liberals per Techdirt https://www.techdirt.com/2020/06/29/as-predicted-parler-is-banning-users-it-doesnt-like/

          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/04/parler-shuts-down-as-new-owner-says-conservative-platform-needs-big-revamp/

          Parler shuts down as new owner says conservative platform needs big revamp
          Parler sold to firm that says conservative Twitter clone isn't a "viable business."

          The free market has spoken, and says that shit doesn’t like cuntsorevaturd CensorShit either!!! Are You Deeply and PervFectly Butt-Hurt? If so… Start up Your Own PervFect web shit-site!

      2. Rick James   2 months ago

        That is not a misuse of 230, that is how it was designed. Sites are allowed to have their own content moderation polices as they wish.

        The first amendment gives them the right to make the content moderation decisions they wish. Section 230 gives them immunity from ANY moderation decision they make, no matter the circumstances or whether it violates a contract between themselves and a user.

        1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

          Ask for Your money back, then!!! All $0,000,000.00 of shit! THAT is your solution, SNOT running and cry-babying to Government Almighty to provide YOU Your PervFected right to SUE people who have taken NOTHING from You! Courts and suits use force and the threats of force, ya know, and cost me & the other taxpayers LOTS and SLUTS of money!!!

          1. Rick James   2 months ago

            Ask for Your money back, then!!!

            That's LITERALLY what's happening and the platform is immune from lawsuit. Or are you so retarded that in your aggressively stupid world it's 2004, you still have a MySpace account and you haven't heard of monetized accounts, revenue sharing or Patreon, GoFundMe, Stripe or any of the other systems where platforms are either middle men between transactions or literally pay their users for their content?

            Jesus H. Keerist you can't be this stupid?

            1. Rick James   2 months ago

              No, actually you are this retarded. Carry on, it's hilarious. Post another graph showing how the most vulnerable unvaccinated demographic's median age was 127 years old.

              1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

                PLEASE find for the readers, a case where a PAYING customer of an internet site SUED for verifiable financial damages (due to breech of contract), and was turned BACK from the courts!

                Otherwise this is just money-hungry LEECHES suing and suing and suing, hoping to get Government Almighty to enrich themselves, through the courts!

                Poor baby... Go ahead and post some highly racist murder-for-hire posts on tReason.cum, the blame tReason for these posts, and get RICH-RICH-RICH, when they take DOWN Your PervFected posts!!! Ca-ching, all of the way to the bank, cry-baby!!!

                Hey, radical idea here... How about we let tReason.cum own THEIR own web site, and tell the cry-babies to FUCK RIGHT OFF!!!!

                My web site, my rules... Pretty simple!

                1. Rick James   2 months ago

                  PLEASE find for the readers, a case where a PAYING customer of an internet site SUED for verifiable financial damages (due to breech of contract), and was turned BACK from the courts!

                  I... um... *facepalm*

                  1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

                    Like I said.

                  2. SQRLSY   2 months ago

                    I... um... CUN'T DO THAT SHIT, 'cause such cases... Do SNOT exist!!!

                2. Sylvie1   2 months ago

                  Alex Berenson's suit against Twitter, dismissed despite clear and convincing evidence of economic damages, due to Section 230's protection of Twitter.

                  1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

                    https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=Alex+Berenson%27s+suit+against+Twitter%2c&mid=AAB6E1D1D7C9300363C4AAB6E1D1D7C9300363C4&FORM=VIRE
                    suit against Biden, SNOT against Twitter... Twat do you have, really?

                    1. Rick James   2 months ago

                      A quick google search will show you numerous lawsuits against Youtube and Google for people being kicked off their platforms or demonetized, all rejected because of section 230. You can argue whether or not the lawsuits would have won or not, but if you have revenue streams that come directly from the platform and that platform demonetizes or bans you, the idea that a user can't petition the courts for breach of contract vis-a-vis TOS violations due to moderation decisions that violated said TOS is so jaw-droppingly retarded from a libertarian standpoint that I'm not sure how I can educate you on this subject, especially because section 230 is absolutely clear in what its purpose is.

                      For the last fucking time, the First Amendment is the First Amendment of the internet... you don't need a special blanket civil immunity clause in a law literally designed to ban 'lewd and lascivious or otherwise objectionable content on behalf of the government' that covers Mike Masnick, Elizabeth Nolan Brown, Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg, but not Random House, Penguin or Playboy.

                    2. Rick James   2 months ago

                      We know what kind of libertarian you are.

                    3. SQRLSY   2 months ago

                      So Rick James did... "A quick google search", butt can SNOT be bothered to cite ONE SINGLE CLEAR-CUT CASE... where a PAYING customer of an internet site SUED for verifiable financial damages (due to breech of contract), and was turned BACK from the courts!

                      Gee, I wonder why THAT is? In a nation and time where everyone loves to sue everyone at the drop of a hat... So long as they or their supporters and slurporters have some MONEY to spare, and judges and lawyers LOVE to milk shit all, with endless lawsuits... You REALLY expect us to BLEEEEEVE that there are endless VICTIMS of tons of verifiable losses, due to BREECH OF CONTRACT (a quite verifiable thing) by web site owners, and NO ONE wants to sue? CITATIONS PLEASE, liar!!!!

                      (Your whining is pathetic and baseless!!!)

            2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              It’s even stupider than that.

        2. mad.casual   2 months ago

          SSDD - The 1A is *supposed* to prevent Congress from passing a law regulating speech. The 'right to petition' guarantees that the people are owed at least some means of arbitration. Standing on soap box shouting at Congress (or the POTUS) waiting for 2 yrs. for an election to come around to maybe fix things isn't sufficient. Congress doesn't owe anyone a speedy trial. Section 230 specifically reverses the 1A on both points in favor of (some) social media platforms (sometimes).

          Specifically, the courts are supposed to hear the cases and the hearing is designed to avoid Tuccille's false dichotomy I mention below. Congress passes the law and that's the law. The Judicial branch is where it comes to "Maybe you're 0, 1... 10... 50... 66... 99, 100% liable. Maybe that other decision is completely inapplicable in this situation. Maybe that other district got it wrong. Maybe this precedent is perfectly apt." Murder is against the law, but if you're being harassed and assaulted and your response causes a death, maybe you didn't commit a murder.

          This is why Compuserve, who was leasing infrastructure to insurance providers who were leasing extra compute time to BBS hosts that Compuserve never even spoke to was found to be in no way liable for the speech and Prodigy, who was favorably defending illegal trade practices at the executive level via a shadow moderation system was found liable.

          And that's why, anti-liberty, anti-law, anti-1A "libertarians" at Reason have to continue to entirely omit the actual facts and history to arrive at the conclusion that protects their position as fanatic ideologues and party propagandists.

      3. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

        Section 230 was supposed to provide protection for light moderation, i.e. to be able to edit out obvious criminal or obscene content without incurring liability for the remaining content. The previous law only allowed only for no moderation for no liability, or heavy moderation with liability. What we have gotten is heavy moderation without liability which has maximized the freedom of speech for the corporate owners of the platforms while minimizing the free speech rights of users and content creators.

    2. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      So go start a social media company that doesn't do those things.
      You have no case.

      1. John Rohan   2 months ago

        How does that have anything to do with my point?

        I didn't say what they were doing was good or bad per se - just that they were acting way beyond anything that could be described as a neutral platform for the purposes of protections from lawsuits.

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Can you name other industries that have these extra legal protections for their actions?

        Or the ability to change terms of a contract on a whim?

        1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

          So file a lawsuit of contract violation.
          That is for the justice system to resolve not put Government Nannies in charge of it.

          1. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

            The courts have been using Section 230 to throw out such lawsuits. This has been a problem with the legislation as written and the lazy way the courts have applied the law.

            1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

              Do you think Biden and Democrats are going to 'apply' it any better?

              The worst possible outcome is to allow the executive to charge media outlets willy-nilly for what it does/doesn't want to see. If it finds illegal activity it can charge the person not the outlet. The hierarchy (outlet-only) lawsuit literally ensures government controlled media/press.

          2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            It’s amazing how much leftist discourse consists of pretending not to understand what’s plainly being said, thus making discourse impossible.

            1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

              It’s amazing how Penguin Poop whines like a cry-baby because MANY people (SNOT just "left-tits") have caught onto the plainly spoken LIES by the advocates of Government Almighty censorShit, whether it be done plainly, or under the guise of privately initiated ENDLESS BUTT BASELESS LAWSUITS in the courts of Government Almighty!!!

    3. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

      Newspaper editors and news interview broadcast producers should not be sued for what their guests say either. This is, or should be, a general principle. If CBS News chooses not to broadcast a comment made by someone they interviewed, or DOES broadcast a nasty comment made by someone they interviewed, they should not be sued for it.

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

        Like Fox News?

  4. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    Key language in Section 230 is often described as "the twenty-six words that created the internet."

    Tim Berners-Lee holding on line three - - - - - - - -

  5. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    Yes. There isn't a single reason to repeal Section 230.
    There is a plethora of reasons to impeach congressmen using US letter heads to censor.
    Blame-Shifting will end up doing the exact opposite of what people think it'll accomplish.

    1. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

      In fact there is a plethora of reasons to extend the principle of Section 230 to the entire First Amendment universe.

  6. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    "Without Section 230, websites would be left with a menu of unattractive options to avoid lawsuits over their users' speech"

    Is it only me, or does anyone else see the real problem here: "lawsuits over users' speech?" The problem is LAWSUITS! Not speech or the platforms used by speakers. If the government had not provided "space" for the proliferation of nuisance and deep-pockets lawsuits in the first place, regulations to protect platforms would never have been needed. A simple generic law that confirms that judges must throw out ALL lawsuits alleging harm from speech without a clear showing that the defendant personally (not the newspaper, broadcaster or media platform) defamed the plaintiff under the general legal definition of libel, slander and defamation of character, would be all that would be needed. If judges could throw out such lawsuits for not meeting the minimum criteria up front, the Social Media Platform Formerly Known as Twitter would not need Section 230.

    1. Rick James   2 months ago

      Yes, you see the problem. Reason has been mischaracterizing what section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is and does since just shortly after it was passed when just before it was passed it was a threat to free speech.

      The ONLY 'good" thing section 230 does is from section 1 which gives them immunity from criminal speech their users post-- even though that 'criminal' speech was merely lewd or lascivious.

  7. Rick James   2 months ago

    Section 230 does not protect internet speech. The first amendment protects internet speech. Section 230 gives immunity from criminal posts of their users and civil liability protections for moderation decisions taken "in good faith" for the screening and blocking of objectionable material.

  8. mad.casual   2 months ago

    Before passage of the law, court decisions gave internet platforms a choice between a completely hands-off approach to anything published by users on their sites, or else taking responsibility for all that was posted. That meant leaving even the vilest content up or assuming the impossible task of moderating everything. The new law created a middle ground.

    This is an astoundingly unreasonable false choice for a journalist to present.

    There are hundreds of different models for moderation dating back to the origin of print media. No court ever said "Either moderate everything or moderate nothing." they specifically said, "If you aren't even aware of the speech on your platform second or third-hand as a service provider, you aren't liable. If you aren't just aware of moderation, aren't just actively engaged in moderation, but are performing moderation behind the scenes in violation of the stated rules and/or TOS at the executive level, you're liable for the speech you directly removed. You're just crafting your preferred message with users as raw material."

    1. Ersatz   2 months ago

      but are performing moderation behind the scenes in violation of the stated rules and/or TOS at the executive level, you're liable for the speech you directly removed. You're just crafting your preferred message with users as raw material." <<THIS

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        And this is consistent across industries and how it has always been.

        If you buy marble from a quarry, sculpt a giant dong out of it, put it in front of your kid's elementary school and get sued, the quarry isn't responsible.

        If you go to the quarry, explain that you're putting up a giant dong statue in front of your kid's elementary school and they say, "That sounds like a great idea! Please accept this free hunk of marble as a donation." they may be liable.

        If you go to a quarry and talk about making a giant marble dong and the owner says, "That's a great idea! We commission you to build one in front of the local grade school. We'll even donate the marble." it's *likely* they're liable.

        And any given court in the land is relatively free to decide anywhere between 0% and 100% liable in any case and generally disregard any other court or district's previous verdict because *this* giant marble dong is a work of art whereas all the other giant marble dongs are just pornographic smut.

        Section 230 is completely backwards of all of it because dishonest Marxists want to play retard, but only in their favor.

    2. Rick James   2 months ago

      That meant leaving even the vilest content up or assuming the impossible task of moderating everything. The new law created a middle ground.

      What's especially dumb about it is... the platforms literally do moderate everything. It's almost as if Tucille hasn't paid attention to anything coming out of Silicon Valley over the last 10 years.

      I'm shocked the people literally believe that because of section 230, all the social media companies are just hip-swiveling, let-it-all-hang-out forums where anything goes, sex work is work, and promethean transformations are the order of the day.

  9. DRM   2 months ago

    Section 230 does not protect speech, it protects censorship. As your own article goes on to claim!

    Seriously, let us assume that you were accurate when you write that under pre-Section 230 standards, "That meant leaving even the vilest content up or assuming the impossible task of moderating everything."

    Well, then. If moderating everything is impossible, then instead platforms would have to leave "even the vilest content up". Which is to say, allow truly unlimited free speech.

    But, in fact, all repealing Section 230 would do is subject computer information providers to the very same Smith v. California (1959) standards that for decades governed, and which still govern, libraries, newsstands, bookstores, video rental places, and cable TV systems.

    Or, to put it another way, repealing Section 230 would subject computer information service providers to the very same standards of liability in general that they already have for copyright violations and child sexual abuse material.

    1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      So you believe government should censor all libraries, newstands, bookstores, video rental places and sexual material?

      Isn't that exactly what you just said?
      Maybe people can have a 'CHOICE' instead? If you don't want to see the smut; don't go into a smut store?

      1. DRM   2 months ago

        You know, you really, really should pass a fourth grade reading class before you resume commenting on the Internet.

        The statement that computer information service providers should be held to the very same liability standards for content that currently apply (and have for the last seven decades applied) to libraries, newsstands, bookstores, video rental places, and cable TV systems is not a call to censor anybody. Calling for the law to be changed to treat social media companies as the legal equals of bookstores is not calling for government censorship of bookstores.

        The statement that computer information service providers should be held liable for illegal content they serve to the same degree that they are already held liable when that content fits two specific categories of illegality is not a comment in any way on what sort of content should be illegal.

        To again try to drive the point through your osmium-dense skull into your CTE-victim brain:

        If Section 230 is so vitally important for free speech, why aren't its advocates demanding it be extended to libraries, newsstands, bookstores, video rental places, and cable TV systems?

        If liability for user content is so dangerous to social media, why aren't Section 230 advocates demanding its liability protections be extended to cases of distributing material that infringes copyright?

        1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

          And which part of that addresses exactly what I just said? Libraries and Newsstands already exercise Section 230 protections because what kind of moron would sue the Library because someone put their playboy on the shelf? The person who left it there is the person who would be charged and they would only be charged if it was moderated by said library. As would be nuns leaving bibles on the shelves at a smut outlet.

          It's not only bloody stupid (blame-shifting) to charge the 'outlet' it literally sets up a path to gov demand the content.

          1. DRM   2 months ago

            No, libraries and newsstands do not have Section 230 protections, you ignorant baboon. That's the whole point. They only have perfectly normal First Amendment protections under Smith v. California (1959) -- the exact same ones that computer information service providers were explicitly held to have in Cubby v. CompuServe (1991), five years before Section 230 was enacted, and which they'd still have after repeal of Section 230.

            Section 230 does not protect anyone from liability for unknowingly spreading illegal third-party material. When someone claims it does, they are lying their fucking ass off. The Constitution already does that, and did so three decades before Tim Berners-Lee invented HTML. The passage of Section 230 did not create that protection, and the repeal of Section 230 cannot in any way remove that Constitutional protection.

            If you want to honestly argue against the repeal of Section 230, you can't assert that it protects the same behaviors that would be legal for a bookstore, library, or newsstand, because those behaviors would be protected by the First Amendment even if Section 230 were repealed. To honestly advocate for keeping Section 230, you have to come up with examples of conduct that would be illegal for brick-and-mortar distributors, and argue that social media sites should be allowed to do those otherwise-illegal activities anyway.

            1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

              No. If you want to honestly argue to repeal Section 230 you have to assert the reason for its repeal as it was painfully made obvious by your first comment how Gov, "should censor all libraries, newstands, bookstores, video rental places and sexual material".

              You're chasing your own tail here.

  10. BigFish92672   2 months ago

    Social media that blocks purely political speech should lose Sec 230 protection. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander

    1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      Section 230 doesn't say libel, defamation and fraudulent lies are protected.
      All it says is those lies must be charged to the person who actually made them.
      Granite 90% of the time it is the media outlet.
      Section 230 doesn't protect that what-so-ever.

    2. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      People who eat meat shouldn't be allowed to own pets! Their "fur babies" should be cunt-fist-tated, roasted, and eaten! Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander!!!

      ('Cause Power Pigs SAID so!!!)

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