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Artificial Intelligence

The Joys of Data Centers: Debunking the Backlash Against the $7 Trillion AI Building Boom

Contrary to the claims of the not-in-my-backyard technophobes, all this growth comes with minimal environmental downsides.

Christian Britschgi | From the April 2026 issue

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An illustration of data center servers in a dream-like environment with clouds and colorful tints | Illustration: Midjourney
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Sen. Bernie Sanders has a problem with data centers. They're just too good.

In a video posted to social media in December 2025, the Vermont independent complained that billionaire tech moguls are reaping huge profits from their data center investments while the technological innovations these facilities power will automate away countless jobs currently done by human workers. He called for a federal moratorium on data center construction to "give democracy a chance to catch up with the transformative changes that we are witnessing."

By 2030, companies are projected to invest as much as $7 trillion on building or updating the boxy, server-filled facilities that keep the digital cloud aloft and train large language models to speak intelligibly. About 40 percent of that spending will happen in America.

Sanders is hardly alone in complaining about America's staggering data center boom.

As 770 data centers enter the development pipeline, a chorus of usual suspects is demanding they be stopped. Environmentalists complain that they are gobbling up virgin land and drinking all of the water. Preservationists say these boxy facilities are ruining the character of local areas. Consumer advocates say their power demands are raising everyone's electricity bills.

In Sanders' case, his complaints about data centers tacitly accept the premises of the people investing huge sums in them: that these facilities will be fabulously profitable investments that spur the development of the innovative, labor-saving technologies of the future. But the socialist senator thinks that's a bad thing. After all, no government bureaucrat has precisely planned where all this economic dynamism will take us.

The rest of us should be able to see the tremendous upsides of the country's data center boom. Advances in artificial intelligence and robotics could liberate humanity from boring, backbreaking labor. The early profits of data center development are a leading indicator of the increasingly productive economy that awaits us in the years to come.

While the rest of the economy wobbles under the weight of trade wars and other forms of government intervention, data center investment is almost exclusively responsible for driving GDP growth.

Contrary to the claims of the not-in-my-backyard technophobes, all this growth comes with minimal environmental downsides. Data centers consume a tiny portion of the nation's water. While they're not the prettiest buildings to look at, they mean less noise, fumes, and traffic than almost any other land use one could care to name.

Their power consumption is gargantuan. But data centers' electricity demands are also driving secondary innovations in the world of energy efficiency and power generation.

In short, it's hard to imagine an industry that gets more juice from the olives it squeezes. Data centers are the silent, uncomplaining Atlas holding our dynamic, tech-driven economy on his mighty shoulders. They don't produce rainbows (yet). But they might as well. We should all stop worrying and learn to love them.

Building Boom and Backlash

The internet isn't a series of tubes. It's a series of warehouses filled with computing equipment in Loudoun County, Virginia.

The suburban jurisdiction just outside the Washington Beltway is home to 200 data center facilities with a physical footprint of 47 million square feet. The wider Northern Virginia region hosts some 13 percent of the entire world's data center capacity, supporting a huge percentage of global internet activity. When Amazon Web Services' data centers in the area experienced a brief disruption in late 2025, everything from Venmo to the British government's tax services went down.

It's fashionable to complain that America is a "build nothing" country. Loudoun County shows how much matter we can add to meatspace when the law allows it.

In 2000, the county's zoning administrator decided to treat data centers as though they were office buildings, meaning they could be built by-right (i.e., without the need for approval from elected officials) in large swaths of the county. That decision made a lot of sense. Data centers are, after all, effectively just office buildings with more computers and fewer windows.

The subsequent boom in data center construction beggars belief.

As an October 2025 county report states, "The rate of data center growth in Loudoun County over the past 20 years has been among the highest of any community in the world, and that rate has accelerated exponentially since 2022." From 2016 through 2020, data centers' square footage in Loudoun more than doubled. From 2020 to 2025, it more than doubled again to today's nearly 50 million square feet. Another 117 new data centers are currently planned to be built in the county.

Predictably, the ground zero of America's data center boom is now the epicenter of the backlash to them. In March 2025, the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors voted to revoke data centers' by-right status in the zoning code. Going forward, new data centers will need individual approval from the Board of Supervisors. (The new rules grandfather in many of the pending data center proposals filed under the old rules.)

It's understandable why people would rather live next to an open field or a single-family home than a data center. Yet the voluminous press coverage of property owners' complaints about these facilities reveals just how low-impact such centers are, particularly in the context of their overall economic importance.

Neighbors complain that data centers are unsightly. Their white concrete walls produce a glare. The low, constant hum of their generators and cooling equipment, while well within existing noise limits, can annoy human beings and scare away birds. (The hum is anywhere between 40 and 59 decibels, which is a little louder than a library and a little quieter than a pickleball court.)

Anti-growth activists often complain that new residential development generates traffic, strains local schools, and sucks up resources from local budgets. Data centers do not. McKinsey & Company notes in a research brief that large data centers have around 50 permanent workers. These relatively small staffs mean their impacts on roads and schools are minimal.

"My standing joke about data centers is they're a very big building with a very small parking lot," Shane Greenstein, a Harvard professor who studies data centers, told Inside Climate News last year.

Despite the targeted local tax breaks that data centers received, they pay for about 30 percent of Loudoun's local budget. Perhaps there's a case for regulations to mitigate some of the centers' externalities, but they are not smoke-belching factories. Yet data center critics are increasingly winning the local land-use battles. Heatmap News reports that 25 data centers were scrubbed nationwide in response to local opposition in 2025, four times as many as were canceled in 2024. That's evidence of both the demand for more data centers and the regulatory obstacles they're up against.

As the neighbors come out against data centers, people with more global concerns are trying to block them as well.

Power Thirsty

If you were simply reading the headlines, you'd assume that data centers were drinking up most of America's water and polluting whatever they leave behind. That couldn't be further from the truth. Individual facilities are, all things considered, modest drinkers.

"Most data centers use about the same amount of water or less than an average large office building, although a few require substantially more, and some require less than a typical household," notes a research report prepared by the Virginia General Assembly's Joint Legislative Audit and Review Commission. These facilities consume water in two ways: directly, as a means of cooling their equipment, and indirectly, via the water used in generating the power they consume.

Neither makes much of a dent in America's fresh water supply. Data centers' water consumption is a tiny portion of overall U.S. water usage.

Data centers directly consumed 46 million gallons a day in 2023, according to a report produced by researchers at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. Their indirect consumption from the power plants serving them added another 576 million gallons of water consumed daily, for a combined daily total of 625 million.

That's a lot of water. It's also a very small percentage (0.2 percent) of the 322 billion gallons of water that the United States consumes each day.

California's almond industry consumes almost 4.2 billion gallons of water a day, according to the California Water Impact Network. The country's golf courses consume another 1.4 billion gallons a day.

People can, and do, debate the merits of the amount of water that goes to almond milk and putting greens. But neither golf nor almonds were responsible for effectively all of U.S. economic growth this past year.

And the Lawrence Berkeley lab's estimate of data centers using 625 million gallons a day might be an overshot. That figure includes water lost to evaporation from the reservoirs that store water used by hydroelectric power plants, as the engineer Brian Potter has noted in his Construction Physics newsletter. Potter argues that while dams and reservoirs lead to additional evaporation, they also make additional fresh water available for use in drier seasons. That evaporation will also occur regardless of whether reservoir water is used to generate power.

If you exclude that from data centers' consumption, their combined water use falls to a lowly 250 million gallons a day. Despite the panic about the industry's water usage, that's really just a drop in the bucket.

Shocking Consumption

Data centers do use lots of electricity. Existing facilities consume 4 percent of the nation's electricity, and U.S. government estimates predict their share of power usage will hit as high as 12 percent by 2028.

This creates a challenge both for data center operators themselves and for the utility companies that supply them. It has also invited a lot of off-base and bad-faith criticism from data center haters.

Senate Democrats, led by Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.), say data centers are raising everyday consumers' electricity bills. There is some truth to that: Higher demand and stagnant supply will, all else being equal, lead to higher prices. Yet all else isn't equal. Where they're allowed, data center owners are bankrolling the expansion of electrical generation capacity, which often benefits consumers through lower prices.

"States with higher electricity demand growth generally experienced smaller increases in retail prices," the energy industry analyst Marc Oestreich recently noted in Reason. "In some cases, prices declined outright."

In fact, data centers are ideal customers for utility grids because their power consumption is predictable and steady. Their demand doesn't surge on hot days, as when everyone in an apartment building turns on their air conditioners. This is why utility companies with power to spare often actively court data centers to move into the areas they serve.

More often than not, the obstacles to supplying data centers' power demands are political, not economic.

Voluminous state and federal regulations can make it difficult to build new power plants, sources of renewable energy, and transmission lines. A key component of the much-in-vogue "abundance agenda" is making it easier to do these things.

If Warren is worried about data centers driving up electricity prices, she should tell the Sierra Club, Earthjustice, and all the other environmental groups she normally agrees with to quit filing lawsuits that attempt to stop new power generation capacity.

Meanwhile, data center companies' demand is also pushing out the innovative frontier of power generation.

In the past few years, startups like Last Energy have attempted to revolutionize the nuclear power industry by designing and building modular nuclear reactors that can serve as a dedicated, emissionless source of off-grid power for data centers.

Another company, Deep Fission, plans on installing small nuclear reactors at the bottom of deep, narrow tunnels, where the free bedrock can serve the same function as expensive surface containment buildings.

These efforts are in their early days. A major barrier to fast rollout is—surprise—federal regulation. Licensing applications run more than 10,000 pages, and annual reactor operating fees can cost millions of dollars.

If We Let Them

Sanders' demand for a federal moratorium on data centers is radical. It's also unpopular. Many liberal Democrats declined to endorse it. When asked by Politico about Sanders' moratorium proposal, even Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D–Texas) said artificial intelligence could " bring real economic opportunity to Texas."

Voters themselves aren't too agitated about data centers one way or another. When polled by Navigator Research in December 2025, 58 percent of respondents said they'd heard either a little or nothing about new data center construction. Most respondents did not have clear views on whether data centers are good or bad.

Even so, a data center moratorium wouldn't be an entirely unprecedented intrusion of federal regulation into local land-use decisions.

The federal 1996 Telecommunications Act preempted local governments' ability to use their zoning codes to block cellphone towers. Without that top-down deregulation, much of the modern information economy probably would not exist today.

Sanders' call for a nationwide moratorium does make one wonder if we still have it in us to keep government out of the way of new and dynamic industries.

Peter Thiel's famous quip that we wanted flying cars but got 140 characters—a reference to Twitter's original character limit per post—was meant to highlight how the tech economy had exploded while our ability to improve the physical world had stagnated. The fight over data centers illustrates that this is a false dichotomy. We need computing equipment for AI to detect cancer early, write your emails, decode scrolls charred by Mount Vesuvius, help you plan dinner, guide driverless cars, and so much more. That computing equipment needs to live somewhere. That somewhere is data centers.

Contra their critics, big boxy buildings with servers inside produce vanishingly few externalities. Their water consumption is modest, their emissions are negligible, and their aesthetic merits are a matter of personal taste. Their power demands are considerable, but also eminently serviceable.

On the other side of the ledger, their economic benefits are hard to overstate. A bright future of AI-supported innovations in safety, health, and convenience is only realizable if we get out of the way of data center construction.

The question isn't whether data centers are a good thing. It's whether we'll let them be good at scale.

We don't know the answer to that question. There are certainly powerful forces arrayed behind data centers' steady expansion.

Large tech companies obviously view them as profitable investments. The Trump administration's interest in winning the "AI race" with China has seen it issue a number of executive orders that attempt to ease the regulatory burden on the industry. But tech is not particularly popular on the left or the right. People's irritation at their own smartphone use has snowballed into a wider bipartisan assault on the industry. In this environment, overheated worries about data centers' water and power bills are just another excuse to beat up on the Mark Zuckerbergs and Jeff Bezoses of the world.

The same zoning laws that dictate whether homeowners can add a pool house or open a home-based business also give the neighbors an effective veto over new data centers and the techno-optimist future they power. When it comes to questions of who's allowed to build what and where, the real enemies of the future are often local planning boards who don't trouble themselves with global concerns.

It needn't be this way. Data centers will do good things for us, if only we'd let them.

This article originally appeared in print under the headline "The Joys of Data Centers."

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  1. MasterThief   5 days ago

    You are not debunking shit for the people who live where they're slamming these in. We see the negative impacts. Urbanites only see how it benefits them.

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    1. Incunabulum   5 days ago

      'Net benefit' - so shit up and take it.

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    2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   5 days ago

      All the turds that write for Reason live in the beltway and NYC. They are totally out of touch with what actual Americans want.

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      1. Scott Free2016   4 days ago

        This. A thousand times this.

        Reason Staff "I'm a Libertarian so I don't believe in all this big government stuff. Well yes, I do live in a big city and benefit every day from the high taxes charged to others and high police presence that makes this city and its massive set of government give aways work."

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        1. sad_angels_fan   3 days ago

          The problem isn't with the datacenters, it's the policies that already regulate everything around it and have created all of the moral hazards in the world when it comes to regulations in zoning, electricity allocation, the speed and scale of building, and even the fact that they have to be located in the US instead of, as the industry have been for years, moving slowly north into unpopulated areas and allow for cheaper cooling, less fire hazard, and renewable energy. There's infrastructure out there in places that are perfectly suited for expansion. They need space for bare metal, look at the likes of Hetzner and OVH and see where they've built their datacenters. Iceland has a niche in server rentals. Even Ukraine, war and all, is still a decent place to rent a server. I even have servers in countries that don't exist and until a few days ago, Lebanon and Iran (except for sanctions) were options. But we don't need to go that exotic, Finland, Sweden, Canada, Iceland are all perfectly fine places for datacenters that are comparatively sparse in population, have the infrastructure and room to expand, the workforce able to attend to them, so why are we building in America?

          Because nationalistic fear mongering and both parties seem to be in a race to the bottom in making America shittier again. This isn't about chips (although even that is really the same thing, China purged their military leadership and is a total mess. Anyone want to buy a condo on the 38th floor with a view for the same price it was purchased for 20 years ago in Suzhou? It's on a subway station, attached to a Shangri-La Hotel and the facilities too, and even has a parking spot, and taking into inflation and depreciation I'm simply glad that it was paid for since I can't take out a mortgage in China. That's the state of the economy on the top side, the rest is a much bigger mess). But because we elected a president who doesn't understand that a trade deficit is a difference between two balances and not an actual balance that exists, doesn't seem to get that trading money for goods and services doesn't mean that you get to keep the goods and services but also deserve the money back, and thinks that Americans want to go back to building crappy cars and appliances at prices that the workers now won't be able to afford, and then one who basically believes the same thing in industrial policy, and then the first idiot alienated all of our neighbors for no good reason, we're now stuck building domestic. Server rental prices even went up because of this (and inflation). I'm glad I pre-pay years at a time because some have doubled in price without specs going up. Vast.ai only has a slight price advantage over AWS . Two years ago they were 10x cheaper. This is all result of policy. We ran out of IPv4s (in the US, and the EU). I have subnet originally assigned to Central America that I "own", and there are idiots out there yelling at me for hoarding IPs when really, the original system of assigning subnets was basically a quasi-state enterprise that's extremely inefficient and the secondary market is a very efficient solution to that that sprung up on its own. But if neither the old nor the young understand what markets do and the value of trade, well, we're fucked either way, datacenters or windfarms.

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    3. Sir Chips Alot   4 days ago

      what is stopping you from buying the land and doing what you want with it?

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  2. Incunabulum   5 days ago

    >Advances in artificial intelligence and robotics could liberate humanity from boring, backbreaking labor.

    You know that 'increasingly productive' just means 'fewer people' and the first on the chopping block will be writers?

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   5 days ago

      We don't really need AI to replace Reason editors. A room full of monkeys with typewriters would produce better content.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 days ago

        I see you've read reddit threads.

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        1. Gaear Grimsrud   5 days ago

          Regrettably.

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      2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   5 days ago

        Have the monkeys sit there and fling their shit at each other and record it. Then use AI to analyze the videos, and translate them into Reason articles.

        The quality will an improvement over what we currently see.

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    2. Juliana Frink   5 days ago

      "You know that 'increasingly productive' just means 'fewer people' and the first on the chopping block will be writers?"

      Producers of anti anti Globalist Fascist propaganda will appeal to their overlords for continued support. When that fails they will beg...

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  3. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   5 days ago

    Stop paying attention to Bernie sanders.

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  4. JFree   5 days ago

    But the socialist senator thinks that's a bad thing. After all, no government bureaucrat has precisely planned where all this economic dynamism will take us.

    The internet isn't a series of tubes. It's a series of warehouses filled with computing equipment in Loudoun County, Virginia. The suburban jurisdiction just outside the Washington Beltway is home to 200 data center facilities with a physical footprint of 47 million square feet. The wider Northern Virginia region hosts some 13 percent of the entire world's data center capacity, supporting a huge percentage of global internet activity.

    So Loudoun County is the new libertopia with little/no govt nearby planning where all this will take us.

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    1. JFree   5 days ago

      Where they're allowed, data center owners are bankrolling the expansion of electrical generation capacity, which often benefits consumers through lower prices.

      So Loudoun County must be the freaky fracking hub of energy booms now. Whoops. Loudoun County produces 4.6 terawatt-hours of electricity from 1 NG-driven plant (maybe 2). That equals 15.8 million MMBTU's. Loudoun County consumes 36 million MMBTU's - so they are producing 44% of the electricity they consume - and burdening 56% of that demand on somewhere else - both on the energy production AND the distribution of that energy to Loudoun County via an antique grid that can't even deliver newer energy.

      No worries though - Loudoun County is, via its residents who commute to DC to work in the libertopia there, advocating a big hairy audacious goal (BHAG - ain't my acronym - wonder why Loudoun Country loves acronyms) for the federal government to subsidize the changeover of much of the US electricity transmission grid from HVAC (currently 99% of the US grid) to HVDC (the mechanism that can deliver renewables, storage, and long-distance efficiently)

      So - golly Loudoun County is sucking really hard on every public teat in the vicinity - and calling that 'bankrolling'. And they obviously intend somewhere else to produce all the pollution/energy with no control themselves over its use - and be, economically, a commodity colony of the hub - while they control whatever the data centers will produce.

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      1. Neutral not Neutered   5 days ago

        The democrat model for decades.

        Just as they sent manufacturing to China so they could feign lowered emissions while China triples there's making the world's shit. And the products quality dropped while the price stayed close to the same making globalists massive profits.

        They want everyone else to do their bidding while producing nothing then taking all the credit and the profit.

        The gov should not pay for grids, the fucking electricity companies should.

        The democrat fascism is in everyone's faces yet the people are gaslit by the democrats though the media telling the world their political enemies (conservatives) are fascists, racists, deplorable, uneducated.

        How could the world become so stupid, naive and gullible? It didn't. The media enabled leadership to become this corrupt and the fascism grew with it...

        America thinks it is not a socialist county?

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        1. JFree   5 days ago

          The gov should not pay for grids, the fucking electricity companies should.

          Aah - the completely fucking useless anarcho-corporate-libertarian notion. Electricity is infrastructure in a modern economy. Same as roads and mobile communications and such. Each of those require some element of eminent domain for land - which means at minimum some element of state level intervention - which means at some element of state level financing - which means at some level that voters need to exercise governance in order to enforce accountability.

          The libertarian - or neoliberal - approach is always pure cronyist corruption accompanied by a lot of handwaving and some Nicene Creed about the Market as God so therefore no 'governance' is wanted.

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  5. creech   5 days ago

    People don't care about the data center national consumption of water or electricity. They care about the impact on same that the proposed center in their neighborhood will have. Maybe the solution for many proposed centers is recirculation of cooling water and on site generation of electricity?

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    1. JFree   5 days ago

      I don't know about the water stuff - but the electricity/energy solution is to allow for - and even encourage - the migration of people from where they currently live with the shit-ton of subsidies/distortion that keep them immobile where they are. To areas that allow truly local production of electricity. For fuel-based that means local production of the fuel itself. For non-fuel based that means those areas that have a surplus of wind/solar/geo/hydro etc

      The grid itself has got to be turned into a marginal 'arbitrage'/regulator of electricity/energy prices. Where TRUE comparative advantage can occur within the US. Not a centralized planning model imposed by the metropole upon its colony (flyover country).

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      1. Rick James   5 days ago

        The grid itself has got to be turned into a marginal 'arbitrage'/regulator of electricity/energy prices. Where TRUE comparative advantage can occur within the US. Not a centralized planning model imposed by the metropole upon its colony (flyover country).

        This sounds like Enron's business plan.

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        1. JFree   5 days ago

          Enron's fraud was using Special Purpose Entities to move debt and losses off its balance sheet. Thus enabling shareholders to get a Ponzi image of financial health until it all exploded.

          Same thing is happening with the Mag7 and their capital investment in AI. Won't end happy.

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          1. Rick James   5 days ago

            You're talking about the fraud, I was talking about the actual legitimate business plan from the 1980s.

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            1. JFree   5 days ago

              Well you could say the same for any arbitrage that occurs because we now have interstates - and before that railroads.The Rust Belt became the industrial heartland because it was where coal and iron could be cheaply moved and turned into steel in multiple places and then turned into various manufactured goods based on a local labor market in small towns based on the local college/trade school.

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      2. charliehall   4 days ago

        "To areas that allow truly local production of electricity. "

        The federal government is interfering with that because Trump hates Hates HATES green energy.

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    2. charliehall   4 days ago

      No water shortage in the Eastern US. Especially in Loudon County. It adjoins about 40 miles of the Potomac River, which has never gone dry. The Potomac River supplies most of its drinking water. The big user of water in the Western US, which does have water shortages, is agriculture, which has never been willing to pay anything close to a market price for the water it uses.

      And the data centers are one reason by the property tax rate in Loudon is $.805 per $100. Pretty low compared to most other places. It helps that Virginia has county-wide school districts, unlike most states.

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  6. Liberty_Belle   5 days ago

    This is going to be a knife fight over who can consume all the water while the rest of us die off.

    Who will be the winner ? Data Centers or Nestle Corp ?

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   5 days ago

      They could use all that water from the melting glaciers you are always crying over.

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      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   5 days ago

        Or his tears.

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    2. Neutral not Neutered   5 days ago

      Nestle sold out of water long ago

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    3. Incunabulum   5 days ago

      Nestle doesn't consume the water - they just want to own all of it to sell to others.

      So Nestle will sell their water to the data centers.

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  7. Spiritus Mundi   5 days ago

    While they're not the prettiest buildings to look at, they mean less noise, fumes, and traffic than almost any other land use one could care to name.

    Farmland
    Pastureland
    Cemetary
    Park
    Environmental easement
    Wetlands
    Timber lot/tract
    Hunting lodge

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    1. Incunabulum   5 days ago

      You can't talk about that to someone who's frame of reference is 'dense urban core'.

      If there isn't a road to it, lined with shops, then it may as well be Mars.

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      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   5 days ago

        Britches is the kind of guy I see on the car forums who pontificates that no one really needs a truck because he doesn’t see drivers of trucks pulling trailers 24/7.

        I hate people like that.

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    2. MasterThief   5 days ago

      Sounds like all the things they are eminent domaining in our area for data centers and solar farms.

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  8. Lester75   5 days ago

    The DCs should build their own mini nukes and pay for any infrastructure they need. Whatever needs to be done to keep rates from inflating. The average electricity user should not subsidize these places.

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    1. Neutral not Neutered   5 days ago

      The electricity companies, like the oil and gas industry, the insurance industry and others are glad to have the gov come in and force the price of products to climb.

      Since Covid the supply and demand market has been flipped to don't plant that field so their is less product, if someone asks say it's because of the human caused climate change, and then double the sell price.

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    2. charliehall   4 days ago

      No subsidies. Most states have deregulated electricity supply. But the states and federal government also make it hard to add to the supply. Trump's attempts to kill green energy projects are the worst example of this but local NIMBYs are also to blame.

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      1. NealAppeal   4 days ago

        Green energy.. what every data center wants...an expensive, intermittent, unreliable power source.

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        1. charliehall   3 days ago

          Wind and solar are less expensive than coal or nuclear. In much of the country they are quite reliable. And it is possible to store energy:

          https://www.dominionenergy.com/about/making-energy/hydroelectric-power-facilities/bath-county-pumped-storage-station

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          1. NealAppeal   3 days ago

            But wind and solar are intermittent and unreliable. To solve that you need storage, which is extremely expensive. Coal and nuclear are expensive because they have been regulated out of affordability.

            Pumped storage only works where you have a place to store it, drop it, and send it up again...and you need water, which isn't abundant everywhere.

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  9. Rick James   5 days ago

    Um, after Reason stepped into an 'agree to disagree' disposition on "Climate Change", I'm terribly afraid that the critics of datacenters (based on your own wishy-washy position) is, "they're correct".

    You can't take the "It's happening but it's not quiet as bad as you say if we employ more testing" position, and then get surprised when one industry threatens to expand energy usage by eleventy-trillion percent and then be shocked when the people who've been saying "it's happening" get upset. Your only chance is to realize and admit that it's not happening, full stop-- and then you have a stronger argument.

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  10. Rick James   5 days ago

    I don't know what the answer is, and I'm always skeptical of a top-down, governmental solution, but goddamnit, the Norwegians are at least aware of the problem.

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  11. middlefinger   5 days ago

    It’s hilarious when 98~ percent of tech billionaires fund socialists (Democrats) campaigns, then throw a fit when they do socialism.

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  12. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 days ago

    'Sen. Bernie Sanders has a problem with data centers. They're just too good.'

    Yup, nobody needs 23 kinds of data.

    'He called for a federal moratorium on data center construction to "give democracy a chance to catch up with the transformative changes that we are witnessing."'

    And by "democracy" Bernie means government control of business and finance.

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    1. charliehall   4 days ago

      Bernie Sanders was Mayor of a city that has long had a government monopoly on electricity.

      https://www.burlingtonelectric.com/

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  13. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 days ago

    Geez, I don't see much libertarian thinking in most of these comments. What happened to the free market approach to commerce? WTF is all this whining about "our" electricity?

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    1. charliehall   4 days ago

      A lot of electricity is generated by government agencies. And all major water projects are government run. If agricultural users had to pay a market price for water most of them would go out of business immediately. But the agriculture lobby is too powerful.

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  14. 9f5c84a   4 days ago

    It would be nice if the growing need for more and more electricity wouldn’t be hamstrung by you know who wants to get rid of renewable energy development which will help keeping prices down. If every new data center had solar panels on the roof and a wind farm on the property that would be helpful in reducing their demands on the existing grid. Of course it's not enough to cover all their electricity needs, but it would help kickstart the creation of microgrids in this country, something that is sorely needed.

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    1. Mickey Rat   4 days ago

      "... renewable energy development which will help keeping prices down."

      Ha! That is funny.

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      1. charliehall   4 days ago

        Increasing supply reduces prices. Economics 101. Trump flunked it and so did you.

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        1. Mickey Rat   3 days ago

          It does not if the cost of building and operational maintenance is not supported at the lower price point. "Renewables" tend to be inefficient on a cost to benefit basis, as well as unreliably available at peak usage times.

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          1. charliehall   3 days ago

            And that is up to the private business building the energy projects to judge that, not Big Government advocates like you. Are you a Marxist?

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    2. Rick James   4 days ago

      <i.It would be nice if the growing need for more and more electricity wouldn’t be hamstrung by you know who wants to get rid of renewable energy development which will help keeping prices down.

      Sad trumpet.

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      1. Rick James   4 days ago

        Oh and *clears throat* Europe.

        *drops microphone*

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  15. charliehall   4 days ago

    Left wing activists are trying to kill energy projects that would help to power data centers.

    So is Donald Trump.

    A plague on both their houses!

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  16. Scott Free2016   4 days ago

    In Michigan one of the issues I hear is that instead of going into some area abandoned by the auto industry, cleaning it up and putting in a data center...which would be near utilities, roads, workers, etc....they are going out to a grassy field or quiet wood or farmers field in the country to cement it over.

    And of course it will require massive government subsidies.
    And of course they have donated significantly to the Governor and her friends.

    It's another one of those, "if it really is needed, why does it need so much government help?"

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    1. charliehall   3 days ago

      Data centers don't require many on site workers. They don't require subsidies. They need government help to overrule the Big Government NIMBYs who are nowadays mostly Republicans. Land costs are generally lower than in urban areas as are property taxes. Farmers whose livelihoods have been destroyed by Trump's trade wars are often happy to sell. And why would they donate to the MAGA movement that is trying to destroy them, as evidenced by the comments here?

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  17. charliehall   3 days ago

    Fascinating that on a Libertarian site there is so much desire to use Big Government to prevent data centers from being built.

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