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Mike Johnson Wants To Spare ICE the Hassle of Getting the Right Warrant Before Forcibly Entering a Home

Here's a quick reminder of what the Fourth Amendment has to say about that.

Damon Root | 2.5.2026 7:00 AM

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"Imagine if we had to go through the process of getting a judicial warrant."

Those are the complaining words of Speaker of the House Mike Johnson (R–La.), who was voicing his support for the actions of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which now claims that its agents have the right to forcibly enter private homes without first obtaining a warrant signed by a judge. According to ICE, its agents may forcibly enter homes in certain immigration enforcement contexts based merely on a so-called "administrative warrant," which is not actually a warrant at all, but is rather just a piece of paper signed by someone in the executive branch.

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To fully appreciate the inherent lawlessness of the Johnson view, simply replace the phrase "getting a judicial warrant" with any constitutional requirement that you like in the above-quoted statement. For example:

  • "Imagine if we had to go through the process of guaranteeing freedom of speech."
  • "Imagine if we had to go through the process of respecting the right to keep and bear arms."
  • "Imagine if we had to go through the process of paying just compensation when private property is taken for a public use."

You get the idea.

When a government mouthpiece complains that it would be too difficult to follow the commands of the Constitution in a given context, that's a dead giveaway that the government is already violating (or planning to violate) the commands of the Constitution in that context.

The principle that law enforcement must generally obtain a judicial warrant before entering a home is well-established in Fourth Amendment caselaw. In California v. Lange (2019), for example, the U.S. Supreme Court declared, "we are not eager—more the reverse—to print a new permission slip for entering the home without a warrant." At issue in that case was a decision by the California Court of Appeals which said that a police officer may always enter a suspect's home without a judicial warrant if the officer is in "hot pursuit" of the suspect and has probable cause to believe that the suspect has committed a misdemeanor.

But the Supreme Court overturned that lower court ruling because it violated the Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure. "When the totality of circumstances shows an emergency—such as imminent harm to others," the Court said, "the police may act without waiting." But "when the nature of the crime, the nature of the flight, and surrounding facts present no such exigency," the decision held, "officers must respect the sanctity of the home—which means they must get a warrant." Indeed, the opinion stated, "when the officer has time to get a warrant, he must do so—even though the misdemeanant fled."

The Lange decision also contained a helpful reminder of the warrant requirement's deep roots in Anglo-American jurisprudence by quoting from a venerable British common law judgment:

"To enter a man's house" without a proper warrant, Lord Chief Justice Pratt proclaimed in 1763, is to attack "the liberty of the subject" and "destroy the liberty of the kingdom." That was the idea behind the Fourth Amendment.

Which brings us back to Johnson, who whined, "imagine if we had to go through the process of getting a judicial warrant."

But if an ICE agent has the time to obtain a piece of paper signed by a superior in the executive branch before heading out to bust down somebody's front door, then that agent also has the time to obtain a real warrant signed by an actual judge. As the Supreme Court instructed in Lange, "when the officer has time to get a warrant, he must do so." The "sanctity of the home" demands it under our Constitution.

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Damon Root is a senior editor at Reason and the author of A Glorious Liberty: Frederick Douglass and the Fight for an Antislavery Constitution (Potomac Books). His next book, Emancipation War: The Fall of Slavery and the Coming of the Thirteenth Amendment (Potomac Books), will be published in June 2026.

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  1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

    Good article, well written, thanks!

    However, twat about warrants for entering privately-owned businesses ass well? I don't know HOW many times I have read of ICE goons and intestinal tapeworms, liver flukes, brain worms, Gestapo, STASI, KGB, and Ice StormBahnFarter-Fuhrer Barbie storming (off-limits to you and me for casually sauntering around everywhere in) meatpacking plants, cunt-struction sites, factories, hospitals, schools, etc., interfering with the peaceful business of businesses etc.... Feeding, sheltering, healing, educating, and clothing us. This shit, just like home invasions, should STOP, in the absence of warrants!

    UP with the (productive and peaceful) illegal sub-humans, and DOWN with the Storm-ICE-Farter-Fuhrers!!!

  2. SQRLSY   2 months ago

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26876168-leaders-jeffries-and-schumer-to-speaker-johnson-and-leader-thune-2/

    We believe Congress needs to enact the following guardrails:

    1. Targeted Enforcement – DHS officers cannot enter private property without a judicial warrant. End indiscriminate arrests and improve warrant procedures and standards.Require verification that a person is not a U.S. citizen before holding them in immigration detention.

    2. No Masks – Prohibit ICE and immigration enforcement agents from wearing face coverings.

    3. Require ID – Require DHS officers conducting immigration enforcement to display their agency, unique ID number and last name. Require them to verbalize their ID number and last name if asked.

    4. Protect Sensitive Locations – Prohibit funds from being used to conduct enforcement near sensitive locations, including medical facilities, schools, child-care facilities,churches, polling places, courts, etc.

    5. Stop Racial Profiling – Prohibit DHS officers from conducting stops, questioning and searches based on an individual’s presence at certain locations, their job, their spoken language and accent or their race and ethnicity.

    6. Uphold Use of Force Standards – Place into law a reasonable use of force policy,expand training and require certification of officers. In the case of an incident, the officer must be removed from the field until an investigation is conducted.

    7. Ensure State and Local Coordination and Oversight – Preserve the ability of State and local jurisdictions to investigate and prosecute potential crimes and use of excessive force incidents. Require that evidence is preserved and shared with jurisdictions. Require the consent of States and localities to conduct large-scale operations outside of targeted immigration enforcement.

    8. Build Safeguards into the System – Make clear that all buildings where people are detained must abide by the same basic detention standards that require immediate access to a person’s attorney to prevent citizen arrests or detention. Allow states to sue DHS for violations of all requirements. Prohibit limitations on Member visits to ICE facilities regardless of how those facilities are funded.

    9. Body Cameras for Accountability, Not Tracking – Require use of body-worn cameras when interacting with the public and mandate requirements for the storage and access of footage. Prohibit tracking, creating or maintaining databases of individuals participating in First Amendment activities.

    10. No Paramilitary Police – Regulate and standardize the type of uniforms and equipment DHS officers carry during enforcement operations to bring them in line with civil enforcement.

    SQRLSY cumments, I suppose I might, at times, be a commie-pinko Demon-Crap agitator, butt I emphatically agree with ALL of the above, and more anti-ICE-goons sentiments!

  3. mad.casual   2 months ago

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    So, they have a warrant, and an order from a judge, which is more than what's required by the 4A for citizens and, despite the fact that large swaths of the activist judiciary keep issuing orders *for the country* well outside their various purviews, you want extra-special due process for immigrants *and* you want to give it to the judiciary?

    And you're doing it in solidarity with the brownshirts and checkpoint Charlies setting up roadblocks in defiance against their own (socially) democratic government?

    And you're third party?

    It would probably be more convenient, not to mention open and honest, if you just used words like 'Gesinnungsjustiz' and 'gesundes Volksempfinden' more openly.

    1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      Shorter Casually Mad: Big Daddy, please stomp all over ALL of us with Your PervFected Blood-stained Jackboots, 'cause we MUST, at ALL costs, PUNISH-PUNISH-PUNISH the illegal sub-humans!

    2. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

      When the Constitution says "judge", it means an Article III judge, nominated by the President and approved by the Senate. Not some "administrative law judge" who is employed at will by the same agency doing the investigation and prosecution.

      Why are you so focused on increasing government power and decreasing personal liberty?

      1. SRG2   2 months ago

        Yeah, but that requires knowledge of the original version of the BoR, not the Trumpist revision.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Shrike loves arguing from ignorance pretending his is educated. Administrative warrants have been a thing since the start.

          1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

            Murder has been a thing from the start, too. Theft and aggressive violence, too. Does that justify ANY of shit?

          2. Nelson   2 months ago

            But they don’t satisfy the requirements of the Constitution. The fact that two things have the same name doesn’t mean the have the same powers.

          3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            Yes, he is a slimy pile of shit, ain't he? Don't ever forget that the asswipe supports gov't murder of un-armed:

            SRG2 12/23/23
            “Then strode in St Ashli, clad in a gown of white samite and basking in celestial radiance, walking calmly and quietly through the halls of Congress as police ushered her through doors they held open for her, before being cruelly martyred for her beliefs by a Soros-backed special forces officer with a Barrett 0.50 rifle equipped with dum-dum bullets.”

            Hey, SRG? Fuck off and die. Soon. Your family will thank you

        2. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

          Got news for ya, buddy. The Supreme Court and legislators have been amending the Constitution by reinterpretation since the beginning. If you think Trump is the virgin innovator in that regard, you've got TDSMax.

          1. SRG2   2 months ago

            Oh, I agree he's by no means the only innovator. He's just the most conspicuous current instance - and the most uncritically followed, though that absurd and dangerous decision in Trump v US is still the worst of the newer "re-readings".

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

              "...and the most uncritically followed..."

              Thanks for a totally worthless opinion, TDS-addled steaming pile of lying shit.

            2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              Poor shrike. He thinks the law os what soros desires instead of what it is.

            3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

              Just stick with your kiddie porn Shrike. You’re just cunting things up again.

              1. SRG2   2 months ago

                Fuck off you lying cunt. I'm not shrike, and you know that, but you can't help lying.

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        First, as indicated and repeated now because apparently you can't read, show me where the word "judge" appears in:

        The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

        Second, '"When the Constitution says "judge", it means "an Article III judge, nominated by the President and approved by the Senate."' there are multiple uses of the *J*udge in The Constitution where this is clearly not the case.

        Section. 5.
        Each House shall be the Judge an Article III judge, nominated by the President and approved by the Senate... of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business

        See, the substitution doesn't even make sense on a conceptual level. So, either it was a *second* oversight after leaving the word "judge" entirely out of the 4A or you're full of shit.

        Third, Article VI. The judges, the Article III as-consented-by-the-Senate kind, are bound by The Constitution as well. Issuance of directives outside their jurisdiction is a more clear violation of it than what Johnson and Trump are asserting. What the 4A *does* say is "supported by *O*ath or affirmation". A duly-appointed Article III judge who otherwise voids their *O*ath in violation of Article VI is, again, also voiding the 4A just as much, if not more than Trump and Johnson. This would be one thing if it were a one-off district court judge in some niche decision on a narrow abortion case in one of the nine circuits or one of the 50 states, but as I indicated that's not what we have here. We have a Gesinnungsjustiz, or ideological judiciary aligned with Volksempfinden, or populist activism. A wholesale replacement of the rule of law with rather literal street justice.

        Fourth, I've written no law. Moreover, unlike you, I haven't substituted or just assumed words or even whole definitions and concepts into parts of The Constitution where they specifically don't appear and don't make sense. Moreover, not done so specifically in the service of some sort of Marxist "everyone on the planet gets a vote and free healthcare courtesy of the US Gov't per The Constitution" charade.

        I freely admit, maybe Congress and/or Senate fucked up. Maybe the 4A *should* say "warrant issued by an Article III, Senate-consented judge", but it doesn't. Maybe they should be more exacting about which judges get appointed and removing them for violating their Article VI oaths while still issuing orders and warrants. Maybe Congress/The Senate shouldn't have specifically delegated the administrative powers to these agencies under The Executive. But they did.

        Crying "Nuh uh! The Constitution says different!" *now* when it clearly doesn't isn't just not helping your case, it makes you look like just another "laws for thee, but not for me" authoritarian.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Inferior court judges were created by article 1 laws. Just like article 2 judges were in regards to the INA. Maybe we should treat inferiorncourt judges with the same contempt the left does immigration judges.

          1. mad.casual   2 months ago

            The first standards for citizenship had residency requirements and were affirmed by local judges. As indicated, I could understand repealing legislation to get back to the point where judges in CA and NY can deign people citizens and judges in TX and AZ can tell illegal immigrants to fuck right the hell off, but with Governor Walz wrapped up in it and the judiciary openly spitting on law-abiding American citizens, their oaths to uphold The Constitution, in compliance with Article VI, don't mean shit. Fuck 'em.

        2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          "or you're full of shit."

          Ding ding ding!

        3. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          First, as indicated and repeated now because apparently you can't read, show me where the word "judge" appears in...

          Not there, but here:
          Johnson v. United States (1948)

          The point of the Fourth Amendment, which often is not
          grasped by zealous officers, is not that it denies law enforcement the support of the usual inferences which reasonable men draw from evidence. Its protection consists in requiring that those inferences be drawn by a neutral and detached magistrate instead of being judged by the officer engaged in the often competitive enterprise of ferreting out crime...
          ...When the right of privacy must reasonably yield to the right of search is, as a rule, to be decided by a judicial officer, not by a policeman or government enforcement agent.

    3. SRG2   2 months ago

      Brownshirts were a government paramilitary force. Calling the anti-ICE protestors the new brownshirts instead of ICE is slightly odd, not least because you'd obviously have supported the original brownshirts, so why attach the term to a modern group you don' support?

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        They’re connected to people in government in Minnesota, they set up checkpoints, and they’re using intimidation tactics for political purposes.

        1. Nelson   2 months ago

          You’re claiming they’re part of the Minnesota government? Or is this just typical guilt-by-association vibes from the hard right?

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.

            1. Nelson   2 months ago

              I notice you didn’t answer my question. Probably because your post tried to insinuate a tangible connection between the most extreme anti-ICE protesters and the Minnesota government, which is ludicrous.

              It’s guilt by association with partisan bias mixed in.

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Thanks shrike. More ignorant maddow bullshit.

        1. Nelson   2 months ago

          What is your obsession with Rachel Maddow?

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            It’s the bullshit you leftists all gobble up.

      3. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

        The Brownshirts existed before the Nazis came to power. They were NOT a government paramilitary force.

        1. SRG2   2 months ago

          They became one and stop being such a douche.

          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

            You lost.

            1. SRG2   2 months ago

              Hardly. The SA were a government paramilitary force once the Nazis assumed power, and remained thus despite ups and downs for a few years thereafter - including carrying out Kristallnacht. One has to be pretty stupid to think that just because they didn't start out as government paramilitary, they couldn't later become one. And you're pretty stupid, so that checks.

              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                So they started put as antifa tou say? Promoted by a smaller party in government you say?

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            "...stop being such a douche..."

            Look in a mirror, fuckwit.

      4. damikesc   2 months ago

        The brownshirts were originally NOT a government anything. They were part of the Nazi Party, just as the anti-ICE goons are part of the Democrat Party.

    4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      Did I miss the Reason article about the checkpoints?

    5. Nelson   2 months ago

      “ an order from a judge”

      No, they don’t. Executive branch administrative judges don’t count. You need a Judicial branch judge.

      The Executive branch doesn’t have unchecked power, it can (and should) be restrained by the other two branches through Constitutional checks and balances. That’s how our government was designed and how freedom and liberty is protected from the government.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        No, you do not. Judges have precisely zero voice in immigration cases. Hate to break it to you. It has ALWAYS been an exclusively executive branch function.

        1. SRG2   2 months ago

          What a stupid and ignorant comment. Your reading would give the Executive unlimited authority over all aspects of immigration. The Executive has the power to execute and enforce immigration law. They do not make their own laws, they cannot violate existing immigration law, and if they attempt to do either, the judiciary has the power to tell them to stop.

          1. damikesc   2 months ago

            The executive has all the authority given by legislation passed by Congress. Executive handles all of the immigration policies and nobody else does.

            Once the INA was not held unconstitutional, the courts are, at best, superfluous.

          2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            Its not his reading. It is Congress and SCOTUS reading dumbfuck.

        2. JFree   2 months ago

          Immigration judges are NOT Article 3 judges. They are purely executive branch. Here are their specific authorities

          They have ZERO authority to review immigration law, violate someone's constitutional rights without a real judge's due process, etc. Entry into someone's home or private property is a 4th Amendment violation. THAT is why ICE is busy fucking around with people - citizens or not - on the street. And because very very few people really understand how to protect their rights on public property, that is what enables ICE to go fascist and paramilitary.

          The idea of an quasi-judicial process within the executive branch is an excellent idea. Hayek recognized the failure of the US constitution to deal with administrative state excesses. The solution he posited was called rechtsttaat (which was developed in the 1830's - principles outlined here).

          The crappy cobble-together approach we use is Chevron deference. What is not funny at all is that the clowns who support bureaucratic overreach into fascism (as applied to someone who looks alien) are exactly the ones who oppose Chevron deference (if the admin state is impinging on those who look like me).

          1. damikesc   2 months ago

            The EXECUTIVE BRANCH RUNS IMMIGRATION. End of story. The judicial branch did not deem the INA unconstitutional, so there input ends with that.

            The judicial branch has zero say in the process, from start to finish.

            1. JFree   2 months ago

              You are simply a fascist then. The Constitution does not allow constitutional rights to be violated simply because some bureaucrat says 'immigration - and you can't tell me the limits of immigration'.

              1. damikesc   2 months ago

                If abiding by law is fascism, then guilty as charged.

                Take up your beef with the judges who did not strike down the INA.

                You seem to think "due process" is a specific thing. It is not. Due process is the process due PER THE LEGISLATION. Courts do not have a place in all things, hate to break it to you.

                1. JFree   2 months ago

                  Where EXACTLY in the INA does it specify that immigration judges (or other provisions of that law) can issue arrest warrants that extend to private property?

                  And due process is a VERY specific thing. It does not arise from legislation. It arises from the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. The legislature does not define due process and cannot do so constitutionally. Otherwise you are simply asserting that the Bill of Rights is simply whatever the legislature says it is.

                  1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                    You are free to read the INA. But you choose ignorance instead.

              2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                I like how retards like jewfree call those who understand the realities of our system fascists as they demand everyone else explicitly follow their incorrect views of the system.

        3. Nelson   2 months ago

          “ No, you do not. Judges have precisely zero voice in immigration cases.”

          Besides the fact that that isn’t true at all, we aren’t talking about immigration cases. We’re talking about search warrants, which immigration judges don’t have the authority to issue.

          “ It has ALWAYS been an exclusively executive branch function.”

          And yet there have ALWAYS been cases heard by Article III judges regarding immigration. Virtually nothing in American government is imminent from one, if not both, of the other branches.

          And, again, your point (while wrong) isn’t relevant to whether search warrants require an Article III judges to issue it. Which it does.

    6. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Root dishonestly claims that the 4th requires a judicial warrant which it does not. He also claims that an administrative warrant is just a scrawl on the back of an envelope that can be created by anyone. Also false. Congress created immigration law and specifically empowered the executive to enforce it outside the jurisdiction of title 3 judges. Administrative warrants are not search warrants. They authorise the detention and deportation of individuals who have defied a final order of deportation, functionally an arrest warrant for a fugitive. This is a legal process that fully satisfies required due process.

      1. Nelson   2 months ago

        “ Root dishonestly claims that the 4th requires a judicial warrant which it does not.”

        Except, of course, it does.

        Johnson v. United States (1948):
        “When the right of privacy must reasonably yield to the right of search is, as a rule, to be decided by a judicial officer, not by a policeman or government enforcement agent”

        “ He also claims that an administrative warrant is just a scrawl on the back of an envelope that can be created by anyone.”

        He doesn’t. He said, “but is rather just a piece of paper signed by someone in the executive branch.”

        It’s like when Roger Goddell was judging whether or not a fine or suspension was justified or not. When the people deciding whether or not to violate a Constitutional right are the same people who want to violate a Constitutional right, the conclusion is foregone.

        “ Administrative warrants are not search warrants.”

        Yes, that is exactly the point, genius. They don’t authorize entry into a private residence. To do so would violate the Fourth Amendment.

        “ They authorise the detention and deportation of individuals who have defied a final order of deportation, functionally an arrest warrant for a fugitive.”

        Arrest warrants also don’t authorize entry into a private residence. To do so would violate the Fourth Amendment.

        “ This is a legal process that fully satisfies required due process.”

        For deportation. Not for entering a home. To do so would violate the Fourth Amendment.

  4. SQRLSY   2 months ago

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/02/ammon-bundy-trump-ice/685849/ Right-wing agitator Amon Bundy calls it right on immigration and government abuses. . .OK, here’s his essay. . .. https://www.peoplesrights.ws/asset/news/a3a48d43-411d-448c-a5e0-4c91ac739ab4/the-stranger-2922.pdf

    1. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

      That was a great essay, thanks for sharing.

      1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

        Thank you for the thank you!

        As an aspiring REAL libertarian, I have sympathized with rural westerners (like Amos) who have gotten abused by heavy-handed feds and their ownershit of an unGodly large percentage of land out west.

        However, I've been suspicious of right-wing rural people, after reading of the abuses by such people in Texas in the 1990s... Setting up their own "courts", and writing themselves "writs" to award themselves other people's property!

        So I was delighted to see that Amos is on the RIGHT side of immigration etc., and also from a Christian perspective! I have known more than a few right-wingers who claim to be Good Christians, sometimes more than just nominally, but they sure do love to hate that them thar illegal sub-humans!

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        That was an ignorant post, Retard. Please STFU.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Hes from Chicago. Being retarded is built in.

  5. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    Here's a quick reminder of what the Fourth Amendment has to say about that.

    Yes, let us next look into the Open Fields Doctrine, expounded out of thin air by the Supreme Court in Hester v. United States (1924), ruling that fields around a house are not listed in "persons, houses, papers, and effects", and so not protected. It comes up regularly in allowing government agents to set up cameras on private property as long as they are in the "open fields" surrounding a house, and criminally prosecute the property owners who remove said cameras. One recent example was wardens who put a camera on a bear to collect evidence showing the people who owned a 112-acre forest were illegally feeding the bears (https://reason.com/2025/12/31/if-you-give-a-bear-a-badge-will-it-respect-your-rights/).

    The Supreme Court made up the Third Party Doctrine in United States v. Miller (1976) and Smith v. Maryland (1979), ruling that information turned over to a third party, such as cell phone location and telephone and bank records, is not protected by the Fourth Amendment. Funnily enough, banks and other institutions held such information even back in 1787, yet it took nearly 200 years to realize that the Founders and Framers had never realized that the 4th Amendment didn't protect them from search and seizure without a warrant and probable cause.

    Wiretapping to the extent of recording who you talk with and for how long is like the addresses on an envelope, and not protected either.

    Tell us again how well-defined the 4th Amendment is. Hint: the 4th Amendment doesn't say squat. The Supreme Court does its speaking, and they always reinterpret it in the government's favor.

    1. Nelson   2 months ago

      You understand that interpreting the Constitution is literally the job of the Supreme Court, right?

      “ Tell us again how well-defined the 4th Amendment is.”

      Very. There have been cases and precedents on the Fourth Amendment since the founding of the country. Literally.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

        You understand that reinterpreting the 4th Amendment to NOT protect open fields was a travesty of backdoor amendment? No, of course you don't.

        Anything that malleable is NOT well-defined.

    2. Dillinger   2 months ago

      >>always reinterpret it in the government's favor.

      always.

  6. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 months ago

    Apparently they don't teach logical fallacies wherever Damon went to school.

    1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      Do you recall the awesome enchanter named “Tim”, in “Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail”? The one who could “summon fire without flint or tinder”? Well, you remind me of Tim… You are an enchanter who can summon persuasion without facts or logic!

      So I discussed your awesome talents with some dear personal friends on the Reason staff… Accordingly…

      Reason staff has asked me to convey the following message to you:

      Hi Fantastically Talented Author:

      Obviously, you are a silver-tongued orator, and you also know how to translate your spectacular talents to the written word! We at Reason have need for writers like you, who have near-magical persuasive powers, without having to write at great, tedious length, or resorting to boring facts and citations.

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    2. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      Apparently Up-Chuckles The Piggish Snark, protected from His Own PervFectly EVIL thoughts by His Magic Underwear, thinks and stinks that REAL logic is ass follows:

      Jesus Christ HATED the illegal sub-humans, so we should hate them too!!!

    3. Nelson   2 months ago

      What fallacy, exactly, do you think is happening here?

  7. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

    Getting a warrant from a judge is not so quick and easy when the judiciary is openly in a state of rebellion.

    1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      Open rebellion against EVIL storm-troopers is a damned fine thing!!! The tree of liberty grows better when it is fed the blood of tyrants, from time to time!

    2. SRG2   2 months ago

      Did nasty judiciary hurt poor VD? There, there. Daddy Donald will make those nasty judiciary go away.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Please tell us shrike why administrative warrants as outlined in law are wrong. Im sire you have some maddow bullshit you can share.

        Everything the soros left does is meant to cripple enforcement of millions of criminals who crossed illegally. You dont believe in a legal system. You believe in an ends by any means necessary. What a good little socialist.

        1. Nelson   2 months ago

          “ why administrative warrants as outlined in law are wrong”

          They aren’t wrong. They merely aren’t sufficient to overcome the Fourth Amendment.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      +1 Warrants shall issue upon probable cause by Oath or affirmation from judges who repeatedly rule that peaceful citizens need FIODs and CCWs just to carry but that illegal immigrants literally shooting at people in the street don't? Fuck those traitors.

    4. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      Getting a warrant from a judge is not so quick and easy when the judiciary is openly in a state of rebellion.M/i>

      How do you determine who is "in rebellion" when 2 co-equal branches are in opposition?

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        What 2 co-equal branches are in opposition here?

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          sigh

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        When one is (attempting to) enforce the law and the other is supporting lefty mobs.
        See how easy that is, asshole?

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          I see how easy it is to make shit up, I guess.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            I see how easy it is to lie when YOU are called on your bullshit, asswipe.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              Are you even reading these comments?

    5. Nelson   2 months ago

      “ when the judiciary is openly in a state of rebellion.”

      No, that’s not hyperbolic at all.

    6. Lester75   2 months ago

      Including lots of judges appointed by Republicans like the one who used to clerk for Scalia.
      Nope, the judiciary is not in a state of rebellion. The executive branch is in a state of rebellion against the constitution.

      1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

        We need a laughing face emoji here.

  8. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    "Imagine if we had to go through the process of guaranteeing freedom of speech."

    Like saying killing babies is wrong if you happen to be outside an infant abattoir?

    "Imagine if we had to go through the process of respecting the right to keep and bear arms."

    Like paying hundred of dollars in background check and license fees?

    "Imagine if we had to go through the process of paying just compensation when private property is taken for a public use."

    Like with asset forfeiture?

    Good job of rebutting yourself.

  9. Nelson   2 months ago

    Are we at the point now where Republicans have stopped even pretending they respect the Constitution?

    1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

      Can you name any point in US history, before which any politicians respected the Constitution? Remember: John Adams, second President, threw newspaper editors and publishers in jail just seven years after the First Amendment was ratified, and I doubt he was the first.

      1. Murray Rothtard   2 months ago

        Calvin Coolidge was pretty good

      2. Nelson   2 months ago

        Whatabout is a tired tactic. Just because other people have ignored the Constitution doesn’t make it a good thing.

        Call me crazy, but I think ignoring the Constitution is a bad thing and that, by openly advocating for it, Republicans are doing a bad thing.

        But if you’re comfortable with authoritarianism, don’t bitch when the shoe is on the other foot.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

          Call me a language purist, but you implied a change in attitude, when there has been none.

          1. 5Arete22   2 months ago

            SGT, I think that the change that Nelson was implying was not in behavior but in "pretending". Nelson was asking whether Republicans have become less hypocritical about their lack of respect for the federal constitution.

    2. 5Arete22   2 months ago

      Nelson, Trump does not respect the federal constitution. His supporters follow their Leader. Therefore, to the degree that Republicans = Trumpists, Republicans do not respect the federal constitution.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        Folks, 5Arete22 is a TDS-addled steaming pile of lying shit who, obviously, lies.
        Fuck off and die, asswipe.

        1. 5Arete22   2 months ago

          Sevo, do not despair! Remember:
          Substitute _private_ hand flapping and vocalizations when you feel the urge for repetitive coprolalia.

      2. damikesc   2 months ago

        Tell me more about the Democrats noted love of the Constitution.

        1. Nelson   2 months ago

          Whatabout, eh?

      3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Scotus has upheld the INA retard.

        It is you and other reddit leftists who argue from ignorance and demand your ignorant views be the law.

        1. Nelson   2 months ago

          And what does that have to do with invading homes without a valid search warrant?

      4. psmoot   2 months ago

        I sort of remember some ICE official making a similar statement after Good was killed. He groused that it would be burdensome to have an investigation _every_time_ an officer used their gun.

        Cry me an ocean, then do your job.

    3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      They’re the only ones who do respect the constitution. Democrats are outright traitors.

  10. JFree   2 months ago

    Maybe Mike Johnson should do the job he is paid to do and that he swears an oath of office to. Pass a law ensuring there is no confusion re ICE executing that law.

    If his imagination is truly constitutional, passing that law will immediately force any legal challenge to the Supreme Court and in turn force the judiciary to settle the issue quickly everywhere.

    Of course if his imagination is unconstitutional, the SC will rule that he has the constitutional comprehension of an ostrich. Raising questions as to why Congress administers the oath of office to someone whose brain is smaller than his nostrils. Or why voters elect same.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      The only confusion is from the ignorant left who cant read the INA or the judicial review it has already had. The irony of mentioning the SC which has ruled on the issue is amazing though.

      The law being executed has already been passed and upheld retard.

      1. Nelson   2 months ago

        If you really don’t understand that the INA doesn’t authorize Article II administrative judges to issue warrants to enter private residences, you are either too biased to think or too stupid to understand.

        I’m going with both.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Maybe JFucked should fuck off and die.

  11. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    The correct warrant is the ine prescribed by law in the INA and upheld by scotus and appeals. Administrative warrants.

    Damon, it becomes clearer by the day why you never practiced.

    1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      SCOTUS has made it clear that only judicial warrants are valid for entering a house.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        That is, as usual, false.

        Care to guess who runs all tax courts? Hint: It is the IRS.

      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Stfu commie scum.

      3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        This is once again false. There are many conditions a house can be entered without an article 3 warrant.

      4. LIBtranslator   2 months ago

        Um... SCOTUS made it clear that stock dividends are NOT taxable as income, 16A be hanged! Look up Eisner v Macomber. The looter parties simply alternate packing the courts with both variants of altruist totalitarian (egged on by 2% communist and fascist party spoiler votes). The result is "that was then" rulings by baboons in black gowns. Ronnie and Nancy's racial purity prohibitionist court struck down the Pollock v Farmer's Loan by drooling that state and muni bearer bonds MUST be banned or jack-looted!

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          That’s not what that ruling says. The ruling decided that unrealized gains are not taxable. The government can, and does, tax dividend INCOME.

          Hank, you can’t even get this right. Time to turn up the morphine drip.

    2. Nelson   2 months ago

      “ The correct warrant is the ine prescribed by law in the INA and upheld by scotus and appeals. Administrative warrants.”

      Article II administrative warrants for deportation don’t authorize entry into private residences. That has never been a power for anyone but Article III judges.

      Allowing violations of Constitutional rights requires a real judge, not at-will employees of the Executive branch.

  12. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

    But who needs a process at all when you're letting in millions of alien I Vader's, right Damon. Fuck you and your Antifa stormtrooper buddies in the neck with a rusty knife. You leftist cunts created this problem and now you're whining that your mess is being cleaned up by others.

  13. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>"Imagine if we had to go through the process of getting a judicial warrant."

    lol I see I'm incorrect on the other thread. chemjeff isn't a (D) senator. chemjeff is Damon

  14. JFree   2 months ago

    This, along with the federalizing of elections, is all laying the ground for Bannon's idea of stationing ICE goons at polling stations on election day. The goal is to detain anyone (in neighborhoods with mostly non-white registered voters - spec non-white urban blue districts in red states so that Senate/Gov races are affected) who doesn't have ICE's idea of 'citizenship papers on their person' until their 'identity is verified' (after the election passes and their vote no longer can be cast). If enough citizens are detained in particular neighborhoods, then Trump will declare martial law and send in troops to violate posse comitatus and invalidate elections. If citizens whine about that - eat lead.

    1. n00bdragon   2 months ago

      Honestly, I have no idea what their fucking plan is. If there is, it's a very stupid one. It literally doesn't matter what ICE tries to pull in Minnesota. Trump is going to lose Team R that state so unbelievably hard that Republicans are already dropping out of the 2026 mid terms. If you wanted to try and scam the election, you'd pull this sort of shit in a swing state, not a hard blue state like Minnesota.

      I don't think ICE operations in Minneapolis are part of any greater plan. If they actually wanted to hunt down non-white people they'd do it in the southwest states which mostly flop Republican. They do it in Minnesota because that's far away from Team R and the Trump Cult has been trained to believe that LiBeRaLs aren't really part of America and undeserving of the basic rights that this country is built upon.

      1. JFree   2 months ago

        If you wanted to try and scam the election, you'd pull this sort of shit in a swing state, not a hard blue state like Minnesota.

        It's still a long way from the election. Regardless of their plan, then it makes sense that it would start in a smaller blue state without much media - only moving to purple once the thugs get practiced.

        If the focus was illegals, then the cities would have a lot of illegals. Seattle, Denver, Boston, and the DC area - moving to Atlanta, Charlotte, Philadelphia, Las Vegas as they get practice and can move to purplish states.

        Minneapolis ain't that. There are very few illegals there, not even a lot of foreign-born legal migrants, and the population overall hasn't changed much since 1970. So there is no reasonableness to the notion that this is focused on illegals.

        The focus is on citizens - and presumably non-white based on the particulars of how ICE is approaching people on the street with their thuggish 'papers please or else'.

        So you take a guess - why else are they focusing on places with few illegals with street practices that round up non-white citizens who aren't carrying passports or birth certificates on them?

        1. Lester75   2 months ago

          Most of those cities you listed don't have a lot of illegals percentage wise. The biggest concentration of illegals are in Texas, California, Florida, and Nevada. Nevada would be a good choice if they are looking to practice thuggery and pick up more illegal aliens in a purple state. MN is a good place to harass citizens who aren't white because they really stand out in that mostly-lily-white state.

          If you really want to sweep up a lot of illegal aliens you raid meat-processing plants in Texas, farms in California or hotels in Florida. However, Trump has friends in those industries. Miller would rather make his quotas while pissing off people that aren't going to vote Republican. Even Texas doesn't want it's cities swarmed by thousands of poorly trained ICE agents.

          1. LIBtranslator   2 months ago

            Invading Grand Goblin Greg's Gilead of Texas just might work some Darwinian selection on them thar gICEtapo Yankees. It would at least prove more entertaining than videos of them gunning down unarmed women and skinny nurses with no palpable opposition.

      2. LIBtranslator   2 months ago

        There was a time when Republican three-party probability math caused them to drop out of Ohio races in fear of prohibition party spoiler vote drubbings. Republicans groveled and bragged that they had robbed and murdered lustily against Beelzebubba's Beer--"Trust Us," they begged. This inspired the Uranium Savages to record that album live at Soap Creek Saloon in Austin (Texas, not Minnesota). See John Sherman's memoirs.

  15. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

    Look folks. If an officer suspects you of doing something wrong, it's probably because you're guilty of something. Better just do what the officer tells you to do. If the officer says he has to go in your house to search it, then just comply. If you refuse, and insist on this technicality like a 'warrant', you are just making the officer's job harder, and the officer might just shoot you, and it would be your own fault for not doing what the good kindly officer told you to do. Besides, the officer is just doing his job to stop crime. Why would you be opposed to that? Are you pro-crime or something?

    1. LIBtranslator   2 months ago

      This sums up the results of voting Jesus Nazi to pass trade, ethnic and postal laws to importune blacks and hippies, then after the Crash and Depression, voting Communist to ban electricity, take-home pay and national defense--but KEEPING and adding to the Jesus Nazi laws already passed by the other looters. That's reprisal!

  16. CharlieG   2 months ago

    Damon, do me a favor, read the first seven words of the US Constitution and tell me who it pertains to.

    1. LIBtranslator   2 months ago

      According to Lysander Spooner, it was to the signers then living...

  17. RickAbrams   2 months ago

    Warrants waste ICE's time. These hovels are not castles; they often are crummy apartments. Besides ICE does not know that the person lives in the home into which he ran or where he/she is staying. ICE has the right to find the person and beat the truth out of him or her. That way Trump will make American safe again.

    1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      How very fascist of you.

      1. LIBtranslator   2 months ago

        Actually, Christian National Socialists were the ones breaking windows & kicking in doors looking for Juden--and the guns Juden were not allowed--as of the day after their own Charlie Kirk got shot in a Paris embassy. GOP migration planks are likewise similar and Herbert Hoover's migration orders as of 13MAY1931, a month before he and Harry Anslinger fastened insane drug regulations on Germany using the League of Nations as catspaw.

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