The Democratic Party Is Offering a False Choice Between Socialism and Technocracy
By looking to the past, Democrats could chart a pro-freedom blueprint for their party’s future.
The unity that once held the Democratic Party together has given way to ideological meandering, oscillating between "woke" moralistic left-wing populism and technocratic managerialism. These two impulses now define its fractured identity: the former emerging from the Occupy movement and the momentum of Bernie Sanders' presidential campaigns, the latter from the evolution of the Clinton-era "New Democrat" consensus.
The 2025 elections crystallized the divide through two major victories—socialist outsider Zohran Mamdani in New York City and Virginia Gov. Abigail Spanberger, who's more in line with the neoliberal wing. Each has been called the party's "future," though their wins more clearly reveal how ideologically hollow the party's core has become.
Both models come with glaring weaknesses. Mamdani's democratic socialism—state planning, rent control, punitive taxation, and the belief that "no problem is too large for government to solve"—risks collapsing into familiar 20th-century contradictions. Spanberger's approach, while more viable, offers not innovation but a refined status quo: moderation as technique rather than vision.
Today's Democratic Party is perhaps best understood as a form of managerial politics defined by technocratic drift—what political theorist and National Review editor James Burnham once described as liberalism's postwar move away from core principles toward an administered status quo, bent solely on its own continuation, and a quasi-mystical faith in progress for its own sake. In his 1964 book Suicide of the West, Burnham posited, through a blend of Spenglerian insight and fusionist inclination, that liberalism had surrendered any substantive vision of the good for a belief in a self-perpetuating system of technocratic institutionalism—a system of managed decline that served to rationalize the breakdown of the West's social, political, and economic order through bureaucratic inertia and elite "expert" consensus.
Seen this way, the Democratic Party's factional divide becomes far easier to grasp. The uneasy coexistence of its two camps highlights the vacuum at the party's center: both wings reproduce the twin failures Burnham diagnosed—the abandonment of the West's liberal tradition and the rise of a managerial class devoted less to freedom than to its own survival & a philosophical ethos of cultural self-loathing. And it is because of this phenomenon that, perhaps the answer to the party's present identity crisis lies not in embracing the socialism of Mamdani, nor in doubling down on the status quo of Spanberger, but in its 19th-century historical roots.
Classical Liberalism and the Rise of Bourbon Democracy
As difficult as it might be to conceptualize, the Democratic Party was, for the better part of its early existence, the party of classical liberalism, initially established to carry on the legacy and vision of Thomas Jefferson and the Democratic-Republicans. Although it expressed itself in various ideological manifestations—from Jacksonian populism, to the decentralist constitutionalism of John C. Calhoun, to more traditional strains of classical liberalism—the identity that the early Democratic Party cultivated for itself harkened back to the principles of the founding.
The Civil War era witnessed a major rupture in the Democratic vision of limited government, largely abandoned due to hyper-fractionalization along state lines, dereliction of principle, and the sacrifice of high-mindedness for pragmatism. In the North, the party split between business Democrats who reluctantly backed Abraham Lincoln's effort to preserve the Union and Copperheads who opposed his wartime measures. In the South, Democrats—claiming the legacies of either Andrew Jackson or Calhoun—reframed their identity around defending the slave economy, rationalizing it with the language of localism and limited government, despite its clear contradiction with the party's stated principles of individual liberty.
By the time of Reconstruction, many Democrats—including some in the North—went on to resist civil rights legislation, positioning themselves not as defenders of classical liberalism but as agents of autarkic localism. However, as Reconstruction waned and the excesses of both its reforms and residual wartime centralization became more apparent, the Democratic Party steadily shifted back toward its earlier constitutional commitments. It was in this realignment that the preconditions for classical liberalism's resurgence began to take shape, laying the groundwork for a new movement within the party's fractured ranks.
Colloquially dubbed the "Bourbon Democrats" by their detractors—an allusion to the term used to describe conservative and monarchist political factions in Europe—the Democratic Party's burgeoning classical liberal wing was characterized by its commitment to constitutional restraint, free trade, noninterventionism abroad, and a deep suspicion of state power, believing that the centralization of federal authority, even in the service of benevolent aims, would lead to the inevitable erosion of individual liberty.
The biggest Bourbon victory came with Grover Cleveland's win in the 1884 presidential election, which made the faction the party's dominant force. His 1887 veto of the Texas Seed Bill became its defining manifesto; while acknowledging the plight of drought-stricken farmers, Cleveland refused to make redistribution a federal duty. He declared that "though the people support the Government, the Government should not support the people," and warned that such aid "encourages the expectation of paternal care" and "weakens the sturdiness of our national character," arguing that charity must remain a private moral duty. Far from callousness, this reflected his conviction that compassion is strongest when voluntary—and that a state powerful enough to dispense benevolence is powerful enough to erode self-reliance.
Yet the Bourbon coalition—like all political movements—was not without flaws. Southern Bourbons often paired economic liberalism with policies rooted in racial paternalism and disenfranchisement, helping lay the groundwork for segregation. Even Northern Bourbons, including those morally opposed, conceded to Southern demands, prioritizing coalition unity above all else.
But the Bourbons were a diverse coalition—it included veterans who had fought on both sides of the Civil War—and possessed a clear grasp of the political realities of their time. For them, preserving the Union came first; and in their view, the survival of the body politic—and American liberalism—depended on their electoral success and the implementation of their broader objectives. The results spoke for themselves.
Under Bourbon leadership, Democrats championed sound money, low taxation, and opposition to tariffs, while embracing anti-imperialism, industrialization, immigration expansion, and civil service reform. These policies helped usher in unprecedented economic growth and national reconciliation. In this sense, they remained more faithful to the founding ideals of limited government than any other major U.S. faction of the era. But like all political movements, their dominance would not last.
Progressivism, Populism, and the Rise of the Managerial Elite
The final decade of the Bourbon era brought major internal upheaval. Despite the prosperity of the 1880s and early 1890s, working-class and rural Americans grew disillusioned. Farmers saw the Bourbons' sound-money austerity as suffocating—driving down crop prices and making debt costlier. Working-class voters viewed the party's banker-aligned elites as detached. The Panic of 1893 amplified this, as Cleveland's repeal of silver purchases and reliance on Wall Street fueled charges of abandonment. Bourbon hostility to labor, opposition to antitrust laws, and refusal to adopt immigration restrictions deepened the divide. By 1896, these frustrations ignited a populist revolt, culminating in the rise of William Jennings Bryan, whose "Cross of Gold" crusade broke the Bourbons' hold on the party.
While the Bourbon faction retained some influence—even securing the 1904 presidential nomination—the classical liberal wing soon entered terminal decline as Bryan's populism became the party's dominant ideology. This shift deepened under Woodrow Wilson, who, despite early Bourbon alignment, developed an agenda opposed to their aims that blended technocratic impulses with Progressive policies and parts of Bryan's economic agenda. By World War I, Wilsonian progressivism—marked by central planning, censorship, and liberal internationalism—had redefined the party as a bureaucratic engine of centralized authority, replacing Jeffersonian restraint with managerial ambition. Classical liberalism briefly resurfaced in Republican circles under President Calvin Coolidge, but within the Democratic Party, it had been effectively expunged.
This shift finally solidified with the passing of the New Deal in 1934. Where Democrats like Cleveland had opposed similar relief bills in the past, FDR recast freedom as "freedom from want" and "freedom from fear." He used the language of liberty to justify a permanent federal apparatus and reforms that weakened the old business elite, transferring power to a new managerial class of executives and bureaucrats who increasingly directed American industry—a transformation Burnham termed the "Managerial Revolution" in his 1941 book of the same name.
While FDR's reforms quickly became Democratic orthodoxy, some old-school Democrats resisted his top-down agenda. Former New York Gov. Al Smith, a Bourbon holdover and the party nominee for the 1928 presidential election, denounced the New Deal as a betrayal of the market-friendly platform that had won in 1932. Former U.S. Solicitor General and Ambassador to the United Kingdom John W. Davis, who was ironically once a close ally of Wilson, similarly emerged as a major internal critic, challenging New Deal programs in court and helping organize the Liberty League—a brief anti-New Deal alliance of classical liberals and the Republican Old Right. World War II, which centralized federal power, expanded bureaucracy, and muted dissent, ended this resistance. Postwar prosperity entrenched an administrative state embraced by both parties.
The trajectory set by Wilson and later FDR only accelerated—through Lyndon B. Johnson's Great Society, Jimmy Carter's bureaucratic expansion, Bill Clinton's technocratic makeover, Barack Obama's federally engineered health care state, and Joe Biden's revival of industrial policy. While the faces might have changed, the managerial impulse did not.
The New Bourbon Alternative: A Path Beyond Populism and Technocracy
Today, the Democratic Party's divisions are stark. The left preaches a puritanical moralism of collective virtue through coercion—compulsory redistribution, counterintuitive regulations, and democracy for its own sake—driven by progressive populists and a performative Red Guard pushing "cultural re-education." The center clings to proceduralism, expertise, and technocratic management that promises stability but delivers competence without conviction. One turns democracy into civic purification; the other into a service industry for the professional class. Yet both arise from the same philosophical amnesia—a belief that big government is benevolent if run by the "right people," rooted in the Bryanite–Wilsonian neutering of liberalism, and a fight for a party soul that vanished long ago.
Yet outside this noise lies a longing for a political order that is more limited, restrained, and less messianic. The Republican Party, which once appealed to such concerns, has traded small-government consensus for national populism that serves mainly as a vehicle for MAGA grievance. With the principles of limited government now pushed to the GOP's margins, skepticism of centralized power need not remain a conservative possession. The vacuum created by the Democrats' own drift may offer an opening for those seeking a more restrained politics—to reclaim an older instinct in the party's DNA: distrust of centralized authority, constitutional restraint, and a commitment to civil liberties and progress through markets.
Though no longer an organized force, Bourbon sensibilities never fully vanished from the Democratic Party. Even as the faction dissolved, its residues—skepticism of centralized power, constitutional modesty, and confidence in markets—quietly persisted. By the late 20th century, faint echoes of this tradition appeared in figures as different as Larry McDonald on the right and Mike Gravel on the party's left flank, each reflecting a distinct derivative of the old Bourbon ethos. McDonald—who was a close ally and mentor to Ron Paul in Congress—championed constitutionalism, Austrian economics, and rolling back the administrative state, while Gravel embodied anti-expansionism, decentralization, civil liberties, and fiscal restraint. Even Murray Rothbard, though he ultimately abandoned the party, believed for a time that the Democrats might one day rediscover their classical roots. As for today, national figures such as Gov. Jared Polis (D–Colo.), and even heterodox liberals like Andrew Yang, still carry that thread—marked by support for civil liberties, market-friendly instincts, and wariness of bureaucratic intrusion.
Despite the party's broad shift toward expansive government and technocratic management, elements of this older ethos linger in scattered corners of the Democratic thought-ecosystem. Civil libertarians resist surveillance and executive overreach; localist reformers and the remaining Blue Dogs press for decentralization and fiscal restraint; the Abundance movement's supply-side liberalism challenges regulatory sclerosis; and then there are the politically homeless centrists, libertarians, and fusionists—coming not from within the Democratic institutional or ideological apparatus, but from without—who have become alienated by the national populism of the contemporary GOP; they now find themselves in search for a new home that they might help shape. And for outsiders like them, the party's ongoing dissolution—driven in part by those who once professed alignment with their commitments—has turned what was once among the most hostile political terrains for them to navigate into not merely fertile ground for cultivation, but an open invitation for entryism.
Individually, these ideological strands are small. But together they show that the party's older liberal DNA still flickers—never gone, only dispersed. While it's unlikely that the U.S. will ever see the Democrats embrace wholesale libertarianism or traditional laissez faire governance, their identity crisis and fears of authoritarian populism may nudge them to remember that their very party's tradition was built on skepticism of centralized power and the conviction that government must be restrained, not revered. Recognizing the party's earlier successes—most fully realized under the Bourbons—could offer a coherent guiding ethos, not by reviving a bygone era but by adapting its most effective principles to modern realities.
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You wash down your shit sammiches with bourbon?
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You torture and kill the Christian newborns, and then use their blood to wash down Your PervFected Evil-One-Worshitting Rituals and Shituals?
Sorry SSqrlsy, I’m not in the deathcult.
Is this your car?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/194775987@N02/52474593967/
WTF?
LOL! A Melvin-mobile.
One of my better efforts
No, that's Chumby you're responding to. Not KAR or Jeffy.
He’s now broken. Even more so than before.
Good. Please, keep pushing him.
I’m starting to get the feeling you don’t much care for me ML?
Well. Youre pretty boring. Most of us dont.
You get called “that creepy KAR thing” for a reason.
I thought it used turpentine.
ICE ICE Baby
WORST OF THE WORST: ICE Arrests 3,500+ Criminal Aliens in Houston During Democrat-Led Government Shutdown
https://t.me/BellumActaNews/160333
I imagine there is more work to be done in Atlanta, Texas.
I think you mean 3500 future dem voters and family men.
Wonder how upset those 3500 were when they weren’t getting access to SNAP benefits during the shutdown.
Won’t be surprised if some team D legislator proposes a bill to continue to fund benefits to the recently deported.
Some of the, are future Maryland dads!
She’s in A Latte Trouble
Emily Cervantes Ramos (18) decided it was a good idea to throw a drink at a Kannapolis, NC police officer during an "anti ICE" protest.
If they don't like what they're hearing or seeing, you better believe that $7 latte is going airborne.
https://t.me/leaklive/29866
Law enforcement are now being sandwiched between not intervening in free speech and being assaulted by emotionally immature idiots.
Qb and jeff will be here shortly to claim this isnt assault, no big deal, you get used to the violent left.
Won't Jeffy say they should have shot her in the face?
No. She's anti right. Which means infinite due process and prosecutor is Hitler for just asking that question.
Shooting people is only against the right. Equality.
One thing you do get used to is Jesse saying "soon [someone that at some point revealed his narrative as MAGA lies] will be here to say [straw man argument misrepresenting that person's beliefs]."
Do you think what occurred is assault?
Careful. Him and jeff kept screaming felony at the sandwich guy despite charges being a misdemeanor. Any argument to defend leftist activists.
What exactly did I scream about the sandwich guy? I don't recall commenting at all on that.
At most I would have said it was unworthy of prosecution, certainly unworthy of a SWAT raid and the original felony assault charges that failed the grand jury. The jury nullification verdict was a reasonable response to the attempted special treatment for elite government agents.
So when mayo is sprayed all over your face, you will lick it up and say TY? Or will you want to have the mayo sprayer charged for assault? Even if you only got a little on your shirt?
Yes.
It is not, however, an assault that would likely be prosecuted if it occurred to you or me.
If it occurred in the presence of an LEO and recorded on video as what happened in that in incident?
I think it depends if it was a hot or iced latte.
Since the officer did not appear to be in any pain, I'm guessing it was iced. In that case, it would likely result in an arrest with charges later dropped if it occurred in a domestic incident.
In Washington State it would still be misdemeanor assault (4th degree). Which would likely result in a fine and maybe a little community service, assuming no priors.
That seems appropriate.
And when it’s directed towards law enforcement, some minimum jail time must be involved. Now democrats think it’s ok to throw things at cops whenever they want.
They must be disabused of that notion, painfully. It’s the only way democrats ever learn anything.
The Under Shaker?
Funeral turn-up: Twerking for the departed.
A woman wearing Kansas City Chiefs apparel has received widespread criticism after a viral video showed her twerking in front of an open casket at what appears to be a funeral.
https://t.me/leaklive/29858
Not a tight end.
I assumed it was AI or staged.
My kind of place, “show me” a better funeral.
Finnigans wake?
They best not spill a 40 on the dearly departed.
“Pouring out a forty? Rape!”
- sarc
The only way Sarc would pour out a forty would be into his mouth.
Invadey Haiti?
Two Texans reportedly had some wild plan to invade a Haitian island, kill all the men, and enslave the women as concubines/employees in their sex tourism concept. Or some stupidity like that. They have been arrested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRwBXSnHNrA&list=
I heard that those 2 Texan men thought that they were Elon Musk, gathering a large Elongated-Tusk-style harem to make more babies for them, and Trump and the ghost of Epstein, all cumbined!!!
(Sad to say, all of THAT shit is reserved for the rich and powerful!)
I heard that…
The voices in your head are not a valid source of information, but they are potentially as credible as Bluesky.
Your Magic Tinfoil Mind-Reading Hate-Hat is SNOT a valid source of information either, Scumby! Just 'cause Elon Musk calls people "pedos" without ANY evidence, does SNOT mean that PervFected YOU should do the same shit, either!
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Location, location, location!
Why are you against open borders?
The real choice per most of reason is socialism by abundance.
21 states are fighting to keep giving immigrants good stamps.
https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/states-push-back-exclusion-noncitizens-snap
Wait. What?!?! I thought only domestics were getting benefits.
That is also true. You must master Cognitive Dissonance to be a lefty.
noncitizens who are permanent residents
Speaking of cognitive dissonance. You just hate humans.
Pro-Trump propaganda "news" outlet run by John F. Solomon.... yeah, trustworthy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Solomon_(political_commentator)
https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.bentley_media_group_llc.f30a9bc76f9df3fd337eff6c64194d69.html
The letter is linked in the article:
https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/attachments/press-docs/2025.11.19%20-%20Letter%20to%20USDA%20re%20Non%20Citizen%20Guidance%20SIGNED.pdf
End all taxpayer funding of imports. Then sunset the govt taking the fruits of others’ labor then gifting it away.
Poor angry democrat baby.
Why do all liberals try this retarded ad hominem attack?
New claims are our saying the reason the pallisades burned down is a California employee told firefighters they couldn't create fire lines in certain areas in order to protect plants.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/11/did-ca-park-official-of-limit-firefighting-efforts-to-contain-palisades-blaze-to-protect-native-plants/
Irony. Plants were destroyed by fire.
There are ostensibly native plants all over Cali. Next fire should be allowed scorch the rest of the state.
You’re in for some real laughs if you look into how California manages their forests wrt wildfire prevention.
Also firefighters called in a small brush fire and we're told to ignore it
Trump warned about this and they laughed at him.
Can we finally just get rid of the democrats? It’s completely absurd that we tolerate their existence.
Last week the Minneapolis police chief made the mistake of talking about east African gangs in the city. Yesterday he was properly scolded and apologized.
End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
BREAKING: MPD Police Chief O’Hara asks for forgiveness for exposing the reality of Somali criminal activity in Minneapolis
Video
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1991678468959129940
All rapefugee gangs are equal, but some rapefugee gangs are more equal than others
When speaking the truth becomes an offense, a society is doomed.
It is just the red guard playbook at this point.
Noticing intensifies.
If you want a civilization that is capable of advancement and peace, the number of Muslims that should be allowed is 0
Good news is that Somalis are apparently now deportable, with Trump revoking their Temporary Protected Status. Done after it turned out that Somalis were involved in monumental levels of welfare fraud. Apparently, their MN remittances from the welfare fraud were a significant revenue source for the entire country.
"While it's unlikely that the U.S. will ever see the Democrats embrace wholesale libertarianism or traditional laissez faire governance, their identity crisis and fears of authoritarian populism may nudge them to remember that their very party's tradition was built on skepticism of centralized power and the conviction that government must be restrained, not revered."
I would not recommend holding your breath for this to develop.
Reason will never understand the left has always loved big government as long as they own the levers. They have only ever been against republican presidents.
"...fears of authoritarian populism..."
But they sure loves them some tyranny of the majority when they manage to fool enough of the populace to vote them into power; they sure loves them some mob rule when they have captured the faintest majority anywhere; they loves them some anarcho tyranny when all else fails and they need to terrorize the populace into submission.
"...Remember their very party's tradition..."??? Motherfuckers can't even remember far back as JFK.
Why the fuck is Reason so invested in rehabilitating these AUTHORITARIAN assholes?
Because there are no enemies to the left but a ton to the right? /s
Because cocktail parties are more fun than church picnics?
Juliana, follow the money.
Dude is a retard hoping the party of slavery and societal control will embrace personal freedom.
While it's unlikely that the U.S. will ever see the Democrats embrace wholesale libertarianism or traditional laissez faire governance, their identity crisis and fears of authoritarian populism may nudge them to remember that…
Please stop, Democrats in fear of authoritarian populism? You’re fucking killing me
I would absolutely recomend the staff of reason hold their breath till this occures
" . . . Democrats could chart a pro-freedom blueprint for their party’s future."
Freedom? Democrats don't want that concept to flourish.
From real, actual, "I literally own you" slavery through the great society to almost fully federally run health care, the democrats have never seen a restriction on individual liberty they didn't embrace.
Dave Smith is now going down the fuentes/Owen's rabbit hole.
https://x.com/ComicDaveSmith/status/1992242270981202141
In the other article, SSqrlsy is letting Sullum into his
rabbitsquirrel hole.SQRLSY has let a lot of men into his squirrel hole.
Also, am I the only only one that thinks SQRLSY is the product of a drunken Hutt fucking an old garbage can?
If the Macrons put a legit hit on her, that would indeed be fucking wild. That’s a big if though.
What's funny is that Owens is crazy but Fuentes is not. I mean he's a massive asshole, but he's sane.
he is pure troll and i wouldnt be surprised to see him totally switch sides at the appropriate moment
-only in it for the outrage clicks
[hmmm not sure what 'the other side' of crazy provocation would be.. its not like his 'i love stalin' comments are right wing]
> oscillating between "woke" moralistic left-wing populism and technocratic managerialism
This is a weird take. The Ds are not moving between two different things, these are sides of the same coin.
They justify fake science to defend their moralistoc views. See transgenderism.
Everything is a weapon to a leftist. No consistency. Reason refuses to see this.
The dems have always been the party of totalitarianism. To say otherwise shows how stupid you are
Bill Maher had a pretty good rant about socialism and how it always fails, addressed to those in the Dem party who love Mamdami. Everyone thinks he is being red-pilled and yet he - no matter how crazy they get - will always and only vote D. He is trying to reform them or at least get them to hide their crazy policies better... get elected ... and then release the hounds.
Someone should have challenged him after his rant - What are the policies of the Ds that make them soooo much more acceptible than the Rs are not that same socialist magical thinking that you just ranted about??
Bill M. would vote Republican if they would put forth a centrist candidate that doesn't believe that every sperm is sacred, pot is a gateway drug to heroin and the U.S. should be a Christian theocracy.
no R wants a theocracy, half the dems put blacks in jail for pot whenever they couldn't just enslave them with 'free money', the only thing left is yes, Rs are against sacrifice to Molech. [your framing it as every sperm is sacred is gaslighting... its abortion all the way not contraception] You got them there... and although Bill is anti-religion - he does have a soft spot for molech... er , i mean 'reproductive rights'
He pretends not to be a team player but he is Team D all the way.
thats why he's fighting to make them not be insane. The fact that he still votes for them even though he knows they're insane proves this.
They certainly can no longer run on a "Peace and Order" platform.
Scenes from Nueva York
The Bronx DA released shocking video of a citywide robbery spree tied to a 16-year-old migrant believed to be part of the ruthless Trinitarios street gang.
He’s been arrested — but he’s only one out of the Trinitarios members operating across the city. This is the same gang linked to the shooting of a Border Patrol agent just a few months ago.
https://t.me/leaklive/29867
This mostly peaceful immigrant deserves extra helpings of due process.
Deport the banditocito and his los padres.
Its only a handful of robberies. You get used to it. Make them citizens.
Probably needed to commit the robberies while Trump shutdown the federal govt and wealth redistribution spigot was closed.
Fly the Friendly Skies
Two foreign pilots flew their Cessna dangerously close to boats on Horsetooth Resevoir in Colorado but then regretted thier decision when they crashed the plane. The FBI got involved and there's more to this wild story than you've probably heard.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbIaoYb_TU&pp=
Mostly peaceful jihadists?
I see you watch Pilot Debrief too.
So youre saying they said they were sorry? Amnesty!
12 of us in the comments since 2015: Uh, socialism is on the rise and coming!
Reason 2025: Whoa, what's up with this cuckoo bananas resurgence of socialism?!
Hell, since the 90s we've been warning of it in universities. Reason: "ignore it, it will stay on campus."
“We sure hope the Democrats don’t succumb to it’s temptation!”
“12 of us in the comments since 2015: Uh, socialism is on the rise and coming!”
Most of what you Trump defenders call socialism isn’t socialism. Kind of like how Bernie Sanders says Nordic countries are socialist when they are not.
“Reason 2025: Whoa, what's up with this cuckoo bananas resurgence of socialism?”
Yeah, like actual socialism. Not what you guys and Sanders ignorantly call socialism.
I’ll give you a clue. Capitalist economy with a social safety net is not socialism. Criticism of Trump is not socialism. Government grocery stores are.
Reminder. Sarc is literally ignorant on political science.
https://reason.com/2023/12/12/texas-abortion-law-test/?comments=true#comment-10354105
And now he is defending taking taxpayer money to give to others.
Fuck off slaver!
Sarc has finally admitted he’s even further left than Bernie!
"Bourbon sensibilities never fully vanished from the Democratic Party. Even as the faction dissolved, its residues—skepticism of centralized power, constitutional modesty, and confidence in markets—quietly persisted."
Oh, for fucks sake. There is no continuing thread running through either party from 200 years ago. The parties have essentially swapped platforms between one another multiple times based on era, circumstances and vote seeking. Hell, the 2025 GOP is only about 50% compatible with Reagan's party, while the 2025 DNC is about 2% compatible with Bill Clinton's.
Actually curious as to what you think is largely incompatible with the 80s?
Tariffs: both used them, Reagan did make the "right comments" while quietly doing them.
Immigration: with the 86 amnesty Reagan demanded no more, stronger border security
Healthcare: market, not government based approach.
Welfare: reform it
South America: multiple uses of military for both.
Drugs: both against
Judiciary: both originalist preferences and fixing the courts.
Uh, Reagan did nothing to reform the UAW/New Deal Democrat crafted health care system that was making manufacturing more expensive in America. And Bush could have implemented tariffs in 2002 when we were hemorrhaging manufacturing jobs to China but he chose not to…but now you support tariffs when we’ve been adding manufacturing jobs since 2010?? Why didn’t you support tariffs in 2002??
Dude, so many strawman arguments used by Trump defenders are premised on Democrats being a bunch of Jim Crow racists who wish blacks were still on plantations.
You’re taking their arguments away you big meanie pants.
Are you getting dumber?
Please explain DEI. Please explain open calls for racial segregation.
And what fucking strawman arguments?
More projection by sarcles.
Our resident Drunk Democrat Defender has drunkenly staggered into action and is again defending his fellow democrats.
"By looking to the past, Democrats could chart a pro-freedom blueprint for their party’s future."
Perhaps 1860? 1944? 1965? Somehow, I get the impression you voted 'reluctantly and strategically' for droolin' Joe and you have a raging case of TDS, causing you to be a lying pile of shit.
Choice between socialism or technocracy - except socialism is predicated on rule-by-experts. I mean, how can you have socialism if you don't, at minimum, have a large cadre of *planners* to manage the economy?
Socialism is just one form of technocracy, not an alternative to it.
Here's a new term for most of you, and might explain a few Indic things. Found it via X: https://x.com/XJosh/status/1992348701793349827?s=20
Izzat.
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/the-india-menace.174997/page-1253#post-23043218
India? Izzat the nation with all those scammer call centers and the festival where they play in cow manure?
Yes, and they get pissy if you expose the cow shit festival and scammy call centers.
Maybe those libertarians inclined to political action should start entering Democratic primaries to "get the word out?"
So today Musk turned on a location indicator for all X accounts and we learned that all the:
Palestinian accounts
Pro DNC accounts
Groyper accounts
Anti Trump "conservative" accounts
Anti Israel MAGA accounts
MAGA "Civil War" accounts
Native American accounts
Are all located in Pakistan.
And a shitload of the clickbait accounts are located in…
Drum roll, please!
India!
Yup. But the Pakistan ones are more likely to be CIA.
Tulsi still has a lot of housecleaning to do. They should put her in a French maid outfit.
Remember when Trump appointed Rodentstain?? And remember when Barr took pEestain off the board?? Good times for the Deep State. 😉
No. In fact, I have no idea what the fuck you're babbling about. Trump appointed Epstein to fucking what?
And what the hell does that have to do with the odds that you're a Pakistani bot account going up 1000%?
“They should put her in a French maid outfit”
An excellent policy idea. You should be an adviser to Trump. He can appreciate good ideas like that.
Some were in Poland, Britain, and Africa.
SSqrlsy likes X (formerly Twitter) before Musk purchased it.
https://x.com/micah_erfan/status/1992432290618912844
says...
This is total armageddon for the online right.
It’s looking like half of their large accounts were foreigners posing as Americans all along.
I don’t have X. It is for broken boomers.
You don't have X, nor XX, nor XY... Ye are a PervFectly sexless AI spam-bot, a demon, or a Lizard Person, I am snot sure which... Maybe somehow all 3 cumbined?
Ok there, biologist. What is a woman?
Yes, I can easily see that a PervFectly sexless AI spam-bot, a demon, or a Lizard Person would SNOT know twat a woman is!
Is THAT why Ye have PervFectly enslaved that harem of blow-up dolls of various sexes and species in Your Mamma's DeBased Basement? And HOW do Ye and AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian PUNISH them all?
See you are still incapable of answering.
I COULD answer if I wanted to... Butt from a long, sad history with PervFected You, I know that Ye are SOOOOO PervFectly full of Yourself and of Shit, that there is NO room in there for ANY more data, knowledge, or wisdom!!!
What is a woman?
Since Ye have NEVER successfully met a woman, I have ZERO chances of explaining to YOU! Have ye ever tried to explain "blue" to a totally blind person?
Go Ye PervFectly BACK to Your PervFected, Infected harem of blow-up dolls in Your Mamma's debased basement!!!
That's a lot of cope because Micah needs to ask himself "What's a VPN?"
Oh wait, it looks like he knows after all: https://x.com/Ecsullie/status/1992585188816433327/photo/1
He has a VPN account set to the US. He's another Pakistan based glowie.
Sqrlsy will always be a sucker. Every - single - time.
SQRLSY should be sealed in a barrel of white phosphorus.
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The rabid squirrel is enraged! So many grey boxes! Better seal it up in a phosphorus barrel right away.
READ your fucking link, stupid Marxist Moose-Mammary Necrophiliac DEATH LOVER!!! Evil-One worshitter!!! Data may not be accurate, some people's systems auto-used re-directing VPNs, etc.
Has shit EVER occurred to Your PervFected TINY so-called "brain" ass well, THIS? Anti-totalShitarian people here in the USA legitimately FEAR the Dear Orange Caligula that You are somewhat insulated from? Dear Orange Caligula threatens the "Canschluss" to cum up there & invade Inner Islamic Canuckistanistanistanistanistan, butt YOU don't care; He might FINALLY cum up there and grab Your PervFected, Infected Pussy, ass You PervFectly LUST for, You Canada-Traitor and QUISLING!!! Butt I digress...
USA opponents of Dear Orange Caligula use VPNs to at least try a TINY BIT to hide from the Dear Orange Caligula whose junta might otherwise steal their "Magic Papers" and ship them off to El Salvador to be tortured without trial or ANY basic fact-finding!
Lazy, crazy bitches are TOO lazy to provide links!!!
Elon Musk's X platform has recently rolled out a new feature called "About this account," which reveals the location of user accounts based on their IP address. This feature has inadvertently exposed several high-profile accounts, including those associated with political movements, as being based overseas, such as Turkey and South Asia. The feature aims to enhance transparency and help users verify the authenticity of accounts, especially during political events and discussions. However, it has faced criticism for inaccuracies, leading to a temporary removal of the feature to address these issues. (So says AI prelude).
X rolls out location feature, unmasking MAGA accounts as foreign-based
Story by Adam Schrader
Democratic influencer Harry Sisson shared a thread in which he posted screenshots of the new location data for several major MAGA accounts, beginning with the account Red Pilled Nurse -- whose account is based in Europe.
An account dedicated to commentary on White House "border czar" Tom Homan showed that it, too, was based in Europe while the account "MAGA Nadine" was shown to be based in Morocco.
Other countries represented in Sisson's analysis include Bangladesh, Nigeria, Macedonia, and Russia.
Sqrlsy says... MAGA-maggots are guilty too!!! Twat an UDDER slurprise!!!
PS... "Nov. 23 (UPI) -- Elon Musk's social media company X on Friday rolled out a new feature that shows where accounts are based, which has inadvertently unmasked a number of MAGA accounts as foreign-based."
It also unmasked a far larger number of Democrats as Pakistanis and Chinese. Neat how your propaganda rag somehow forgot to mention that little fact?
Kind of like how 95% of the recent Epstein files revealees turned out to be Democrats.
Has shit EVER occurred to Your PervFected TINY so-called "brain" ass well, THIS? Anti-totalShitarian people here in the USA legitimately FEAR the Dear Orange Caligula that You are somewhat insulated from? Dear Orange Caligula threatens the "Canschluss" to cum up there & invade Inner Islamic Canuckistanistanistanistanistan, butt YOU don't care; He might FINALLY cum up there and grab Your PervFected, Infected Pussy, ass You PervFectly LUST for, You Canada-Traitor and QUISLING!!! Butt I digress...
USA opponents of Dear Orange Caligula use VPNs to at least try a TINY BIT to hide from the Dear Orange Caligula whose junta might otherwise steal their "Magic Papers" and ship them off to El Salvador to be tortured without trial or ANY basic fact-finding!
Twat is the excuse of the RePoopLicKKKunts who did the same? How many RePoopLicKKKunts stand in danger of having their "Magic Papers" stolen, etc, by Dear Orange Caligula? Or killed with no warning and no trial, while travelling peacefully at sea?
"Kind of like how 95% of the recent Epstein files revealees turned out to be Democrats."
Kind of like 99% of LYING assholes WHO ARE TOO EVIL AND STUPID TO EVEN TRY TO FIND A LINK TO PROVE THEIR SHIT ('cause they know that they are just making shit up and lying) turn out to be Servants, Serpents, and Slurp-Pants of the Evil One? And death-worshitting LOVERS OF SUICIDE ass well?
Just get rid of the democrats. We can start with SQRLSY’s execution. Its very existence is an insult to God’s creation.
And I say that as an agnostic.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/top-maga-influencers-accidentally-unmasked-as-foreign-actors/
Top MAGA Influencers Accidentally Unmasked as Foreign Trolls
Drone strikes.
Blacken the sky.
Violence and PUNISHMENT (of EVERYONE except for AT!). THIS will fix EVERYTHING, given that videos of the punishments are sent to AT, for PervFected Shit to enjoy shit!
I mean, I don't really care if I get the videos - I'll just accept the job getting done.
(But send me the videos, I want to make them my screensaver.)
...
What would moderation as vision be like, or about?
Unless you are in one of their favored demographic groups, Democrats have zero interest in fewer rules and regulations. This article was a waste of my time.
But maybe in 80 years they will change.
If we’re is still a democrat party in 2928 we’re doing it wrong.
No more democrat party.
No more Marxists.
LMAO... "Democrats who reluctantly backed [R]Abraham Lincoln"
Who identified as [R]epublicans?
The amount of pure-BS/Lies the left tries to advertise is absurd.
Course; What would anyone expect from the party of [WE] Identify-as gets to *STEAL*?
Liars, Scammers, 'Gun'-Power Hungry criminal minds refusing to *EARN* what they expect.
It's no wonder 70%+ of the prison population registers as [D].
"Democrats who reluctantly backed Abraham Lincoln's effort to preserve the Union"
Not reluctant! Stephen A. Douglas was upset that Lincoln wasn't doing enough to forcibly keep the South in line!
"Who identified as [R]epublicans?"
Not Douglas. He lived and died as a pro Union Democrat.
Freedom comes from republicans, not your kind.
There is no Democrat Party.
There is only the Socialist Party.
They keep using words like "democratic," but they don't know the meaning. And they don't care anymore. They're not even bothering to put on the mask.
It’s time to get rid of the democrat party and confine their leadership, operatives, and those who finance them. Pending treason tribunals.
Big fan of Spanberger. Mamdani is evil.
MAGA is too stupid to be able to tell the difference between them.
Mamdani is of you. You made him happen. Are you too stupid to understand even that?
I disagree with the premise.
First I disagree that Mamdani is socialist in any way outside of the way Gen Z uses "socialism" to actually mean social democracy, after years of Republicans and libertarians calling things like universal healthcare "socialism".
Mamdani is not about to go shut down Wall Street lmao. Progressive taxes and rent control has always been a thing in NYC, and free buses is not a particularly radical idea. There are already "free" buses for schoolchildren, the disabled and the elderly.
Secondly, "technocracy" is a bit of a straw man. I mean MAGA is letting Palantir take over everything, but nobody's calling them a technocracy? Democrats are much more prone to wanting to restrict state use of AI before it gets out of control. Both sides claim they want to use technology to make government more efficient and less wasteful. Is that a bad thing? It all depends on how it is implemented.
It sounds like you are setting up a false dilemma of two strawmanned ideas, both of which are actually quite reasonable and practical when stripped of the weighted language, and especially compared to the alternative Republicans are offering of "arbitrary personality cult fascism" or "theocratic neoconservatism." Let's not forget that the libertarians in the GOP like Rand Paul and Thomas Massie are called RINOs and traitors by party leadership for having any semblance of small government values.
Liberalism didn't change, it was abandoned. If skunks started calling themselves cats, would you say that cats had become stinky? No. When the people who you claim were "Liberals" ceased to adhere to Liberal ideals, they ceased being Liberal.
I'm pretty sure that liberal is the most abused word in the English language, having been turned completely around to mean the exact opposite of its original meaning.