Trump's Tariffs and John Roberts' Credibility
Learning Resources v. Trump will test both executive power and judicial fidelity.
Tomorrow, President Donald Trump will face the biggest legal test yet of his second term when the U.S. Supreme Court hears oral arguments in Learning Resources v. Trump, the case challenging the president's supposed authority to unilaterally impose tariffs without first receiving explicit authorization from Congress.
But tomorrow's case is also a big test for Chief Justice John Roberts. Just two years ago, Roberts led the Supreme Court in rejecting a similar claim of unilateral executive power by then-President Joe Biden. If Roberts now allows Trump to get away with the same kind of executive overreach that Roberts previously stopped Biden from getting away with, Roberts' credibility as a principled judicial arbiter will be sullied forever.
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When the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in 2023 over Biden's efforts to cancel billions of dollars in federal student loan debt via executive action, the chief justice offered a revealing sneak peek into his thinking.
According to "your view," Roberts told Biden's solicitor general, Elizabeth Prelogar, "the president can act unilaterally" and "there was no role for Congress to play in this either." But "we take very seriously the idea of separation of powers and that power should be divided to prevent its abuse."
In fact, Roberts went on to say, "[I]f you're going to affect the obligations of that many Americans on a subject that's of great controversy…that's something for Congress to act on." And if Congress hasn't "acted on it," the chief justice continued, "then maybe that's a good lesson to say for the president, or the administrative bureaucracy, that maybe that's not something they should undertake on their own."
A few months later, Roberts made the lesson official in his majority opinion, which denied Biden's claims of executive power.
The chief justice now has the same reasons for teaching Trump the same lesson in tomorrow's case. Trump's tariffs also "affect…many Americans on a subject that's of great controversy" and thus also cry out for clear congressional sanction. Indeed, the constitutional authority "to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises," as well as the authority "to regulate Commerce with Foreign nations," all reside exclusively in the hands of Congress because they all appear exclusively in the text of Article I. (The president's limited and enumerated powers are spelled out separately in Article II.)
Yet the act of Congress that Trump has cited in purported support of his tariff regime—the International Emergency Economic Powers Act—makes no mention of the word tariffs, nor does it mention any synonyms for the word tariffs. Contrary to Trump's assertions, Congress has not "acted on it."
In the student loan case, the Biden administration dug up an unrelated federal law, squinted heavily at it, and found a pretext for the president's policy, an unlawful approach that was ultimately struck down by SCOTUS.
The Trump administration is guilty of the same squinting and pretexting here. If the chief justice really does "take very seriously the idea of separation of powers," Trump's tariffs should meet the same demise as Biden's student debt plan. We'll see.
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I still feel like this could go either way. The law in this case is quite broad and has already been used to impose sanctions. The only difference between sanctions and tariffs is the way the revenue is collected. There are penalties for a US business that trades with a sanctioned entity. These eventually end up in the treasury. There are duties to pay for a business trading with a country affected by tariffs, which eventually end up in the treasury. Sanctions compared to tariffs are the greater trade barrier so I would expect the lesser is also permitted under the statute, but we'll see which way it goes.
Last week showed why Damon is wrong on the law. Congress can easily vote down every emergency the president claims with simple majority votes in congress. They just did so last week. That is how the law is set up.
The law explicitly says executive determination, congress can overturn saod declaration. Congress has chosen to do so once. Has not in other cases. That is the law as written. It has bith checks and balances in the law.
Instead Damon and democrats want to change the law from the bench and override presidential determination with judicial. Which is not the law.
Congress can easily vote down every emergency the president claims with simple majority votes in congress
Wrong. Only the senate did. And even if both houses did, it could and would still be vetoed by Trump.
then they override the veto. Republic!
So . . . you hate democracy? This is, literally, the process but you want one man to be able to do it - just not the (current) President?
Sure, I hate democracy.
you want one man to be able to do it
I want who to be able to do what? And what does that have to do with me correcting Jesse's claim that "Congress can easily vote down every emergency the president claims with simple majority votes in congress. They just did so last week,"?
They neither could, nor did they, overturn anything with a simple majority last week.
That will be all the excuse Roberts needs to uphold it.
Face it, you got played by Ds.
DR;dr
More wishcasting?
Isn't that how things come true?
Molly is still a male, Demjeff bigot is still fat, and sarc is still a drunk so doubtful.
And Shrike still fucks small children.
Poor Root. Whats is record now? 0 for million?
Roberts' credibility as a principled judicial arbiter will be sullied forever.
Mission Accomplished: Penaltax
Yeah, that line made me throw up in my mouth a little. Root probably thinks Comey is an in incorruptable protector of the law as well.
lol seriously Damon 2012 called
Shorter Damon "every judge who points out how ignorant me and inferior court judges are is wrong"
'Indeed, the constitutional authority "to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises," as well as the authority "to regulate Commerce with Foreign nations," all reside exclusively in the hands of Congress because they all appear exclusively in the text of Article I.'
What's a "Congress"?
Damon still doesn't realize congress actually passed laws. He thinks that article 2 doesn't exist and doesn't execute passed laws. Yet he also demands judges make determinations for execution of the laws. It's clown world.
You miss the part where the president needs to execute the laws as written.
Yep. Too bad you aren’t capable of understanding the law as written.
To some, the law is whatever current thing narrative an activist judge supports.
Active judge, authoritarian politician, ingorant prole tehe result is the same.
Indeed, the constitutional authority "to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises," as well as the authority "to regulate Commerce with Foreign nations," all reside exclusively in the hands of Congress because they all appear exclusively in the text of Article I. (The president's limited and enumerated powers are spelled out separately in Article II.)
The Constitution has TDS.
Can congress pass laws, yes or no? You and Damon seem to think no.
Do you believe Congress can pass laws that are in conflict with the constitution or that reapportion it's division of powers without a constitutional amendment?
Hey Drunky, did you get your SNAP benefits?
On Friday, he loaded up on candy so he should be ok for a few more days. Houses giving out candy said he had a spot-on homeless drunk costume.
Roberts will uphold it, for the simple reason that Senate Dems (and R tools) voted to end the emergencies. Political problems have political solutions.
Gotta hand it to team D, they know how to play the long game.
I was shocked to see dem senators not understand they provided the ammo for Roberts to use as justification.
There's nothing shocking about it, this was a calculated gamble to keep tariffs in their back pocket.
D's know that their appeal to the working class (and union members) has slipped to Trump, and they desperately want them back. So they did the song and dance required of their rabid base, knowing full well that they intend on keeping the tariffs in place, and claiming credit for them.
As I said, long game.
They gave Roberts no such thing.
Your’e just too stupid to notice.
You write on legal matters all the time yet can't even present a plausible distinction between these cases!?!
The main distinction is that Biden's student loan forgiveness had a stronger basis in the text of federal law.
Hahahaha!!!!!! You say the most batshit stupid things.
It’s hilarious! We should set your comments to a laugh track.
Adding bongos in your mind helps when reading Molly's delusional posts. It helped Gutfeld get past Kamalamadingdongs word salads.
'...Just two years ago, Roberts led the Supreme Court in rejecting a totally different claim of unilateral executive power by then-President Joe Biden. If Roberts now allows Trump to get away with a totally different kind of executive overreach that Roberts previously stopped Biden from getting away with, Roberts' credibility as someone I like will be sullied forever...'
Fixed for the TDS-addled steaming pile of lying shit.
So if SCOTUS rules against how Damon wants that is proof that SCOTUS is wrong? Or is the proof that because SCOTUS ruled differently in a different case which had different facts and laws involved?
There is no legal basis for SCOTUS to uphold the tariffs. The only question is how beholden they are to Trump. They have ruled for him without legal basis before.
Is that what Maddow told you to say?
>>There is no legal basis
lol there's more legal basis for T than against. start over.
Speaking, reading and typing the words while yet adding your delusional meaning to them still ends in nonsense.
Please do not try again.
If SCOTUS upholds the tariffs by definition there is a legal basis. You may not like their reasoning but that is a fact.
However the fact that SCOTUS ruled against Biden's attempt to dismiss student loan debt is irrelevant in this case. Different laws and different facts means that a different ruling is possible. So simply ruling differently does not mean the decision is wrong nor does it bring Robert's integrity into question and claiming it does without evidence of anything amiss ( other than disagreeing with the ruling) is pure idiocy.
The entire premise is a failure to use logic.
Were the marching orders to fill the media with articles that have at least one mention of 'Robert's credibility' on order to try to apply pressure on the guy?
Because when you post multiple articles with the same talking point . . .
Correct. Recall the recent “jawboning” references as well as the deluge of “JD Vance is wrong” articles. Perhaps also the more common references to other Reason writers attempting to use op-ed pieces as a relevant authority.
He lost all credibility with the "penaltax." He has shown him to be unprincipled and strongly influenced by the political winds. That being said, Root tries to compare apples and oranges and still doesn't build a decent case for his position.
"a similar claim" is not "the same kind of" so you premise-fail a bit.
Will SCOTUS eventually be asked to rule on Government run grocery stores constitutionality?
If Roberts does not side with the communists then for certain he is in Trump's pocket.
I did just learn from the article how to obfuscate the TDS sheeple by comparing apples and oranges.
They were both POTUS so there's two apples. They both had cases go to SCOTUS so there's two oranges.
The issue is Damn somehow managed to turn them both into bananas.
The problem is that Trump can just say "screw you" and do it anyway. The Supreme Court has no way to enforce it's rulings, especially since Congress is asleep at the wheel.
This is the real Constitutional Crisis. Don't need to wait for mid-terms. We already know Trump ignores the courts, including Supreme Court. How much more does it take before we admit that our system of checks and balances is MISSING?
What court rulings has President Trump ignored?
Didn't even read the article.
Fucking repeating the Act Blue (or whoever has been pushing it HARD the last half dozen years) talking point. The leftist bots all over the net have, on and off for close to a decade, been doing their very best to undermine the supreme court's credibility. They're pushing the talking point hard, now, if I can judge by comment sections on random MSN articles or Drudge report headlines, which are a great barometer for what the Soros bots are being told to push.
And, here we are, Reason pushing the exact same wording I've been seeing elsewhere. Pernicious, isn't it? "I'm just asking a question" sort of headlines, but asking the question is meant to sow the seeds of doubt, especially when you get a room full of 50 centers and their semi-professional journolist brethren feeding them headlines like this.
There's a reason I don't read Reason every day anymore. A good reason: Reason is seldom good.