Trump's Tariff Tantrum Proves He Shouldn't Have That Power
The Supreme Court is set to hear arguments in November on whether Trump's use of tariffs is constitutional.
President Donald Trump imposed tariffs on nearly every other country earlier this year, seemingly based on little more than his own misunderstanding of how trade works. Officials in the U.S. and Canada recently engaged in negotiations aimed at potentially reducing those rates—until Trump, in a fit of pique, terminated the talks and raised rates further.
As the Supreme Court is set to hear arguments about whether Trump's actions are constitutional, this scenario perfectly illustrates why a president should not have this power.
The government of Ontario started airing a commercial last week that featured audio from a 1987 radio address by then-President Ronald Reagan. "High tariffs inevitably lead to retaliation by foreign countries and the triggering of fierce trade wars," Reagan said, presciently. "Then the worst happens: Markets shrink and collapse; businesses and industries shut down; and millions of people lose their jobs."
Trump took such offense at the ad that he cut off talks with Canada. Ontario agreed to pull the ad from the air this week, but when it aired again Friday night during Game 1 of the World Series, Trump said he would raise tariffs on Canada even further.
"Canada was caught, red handed, putting up a fraudulent advertisement on Ronald Reagan's Speech on Tariffs," Trump posted on Truth Social. "Because of their serious misrepresentation of the facts, and hostile act, I am increasing the Tariff on Canada by 10% over and above what they are paying now."
"They cheated on a commercial," Trump told reporters. "Ronald Reagan loved tariffs, and they said he didn't. And I guess it was AI or something."
To be clear, the ad was neither "fraudulent" nor AI. "The commercial in fact used very standard editing, with nothing deceptive that distorted the meaning," points out Reason's Liz Wolfe. "All the words were from Reagan's 1987 speech condemning protectionism and advocating free trade."
Reagan did impose tariffs and import quotas on certain products during his term, but it seems like a stretch to say he "loved tariffs" considering how warmly he spoke of free trade. In fact, in the radio address which the Ontario ad excerpted, Reagan said that even though he had placed 100 percent duties on electronics from Japan, "imposing such tariffs or trade barriers and restrictions of any kind are steps that I am loath to take."
"Our trade policy rests firmly on the foundation of free and open markets," Reagan said in 1985. "I…recognize the inescapable conclusion that all of history has taught: The freer the flow of world trade, the stronger the tides for human progress and peace among nations."
Even if the ad were completely false, of course, it would be ridiculous to respond to it by hiking duties on Canadian imports and thus raising prices for Americans. But since Trump found the ad personally insulting, he did exactly that. "To be clear, a TV commercial is about to cost American consumers about $50 [billion] because he's mad," posted Flavio Volpe, president of the Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association, a Canadian auto industry group.
This encapsulates a simple truth: No single person should have the unitary authority to impose tariffs on other countries.
The Founders clearly agreed. Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution explicitly delegates "Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises" not to the president, but to Congress. Today, that would mean a majority of 535 lawmakers, instead of a single mercurial individual, must agree to impose or remove tariffs.
Congress delegated many of its constitutional authorities to the president over the course of the 20th century. The 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) gives the president a number of economic powers "to deal with any unusual and extraordinary threat…to the national security, foreign policy, or economy of the United States, if the President declares a national emergency with respect to such threat." Even so, IEEPA never mentioned tariffs, and yet Trump cited the statute to impose tariffs on dozens of other countries, implausibly claiming persistent trade deficits constitute national emergencies.
In November, the U.S. Supreme Court is scheduled to hear arguments in a case brought by small businesses, arguing Trump's use of IEEPA to impose tariffs is unconstitutional. Several organizations, including the Cato Institute, the National Taxpayers Union Foundation (NTUF), and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, have submitted amicus briefs in support of the plaintiffs.
"IEEPA contains no reference to 'tariffs' or 'duties,' and no President had
cited it to impose tariffs in the nearly 50 years since its enactment—until now," the Cato filing argues. "The government's reading of IEEPA not only stretches the text beyond recognition but also undermines the Framers' designs for the separation of powers."
"The boundless authority the government claims under IEEPA would amount to an unconstitutional delegation of Congress's legislative power to the Executive," adds the Chamber of Commerce.
"IEEPA invocations have been to sanction, embargo, or freeze assets of foreign governments, terrorist organizations, or hostile nationals as part of foreign policy emergencies," argues NTUF. "That the statute specifically authorizes restrictions on importing and exporting currency or securities, and otherwise freezing or confiscating foreign property, suggests that broad sweeping tariffs on all goods and services are beyond the statute's scope."
These arguments are right about the unconstitutionality of Trump's tariffs. Trump's actions over the past week also provide a practical argument for why the Founders were right not to give that power to a single person.
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Sarc journalism.
President Donald Trump imposed tariffs on nearly every other country earlier this year, seemingly based on little more than his own misunderstanding of how trade works.
C'mon, Joe - You tell us how international trade works. Start by telling me how tariffs on the US are AOK, while the US imposing tariffs is bad shit.
Sarc, you are welcome to join JL.
Start by telling me how tariffs on the US are AOK, while the US imposing tariffs is bad shit.
You mean like Mises and Hayek wrote? There's entire books written about this.
So? That doesn’t mean a moron like Lancaster understands them. And Trump’s tariff strategy is part of a larger pa,n, which is never discussed here.
Now move along. Adults are trying to have a conversation.
The analysis by chosen ignorance seen by joe and qb always amuses me. They've given so many interviews and pushed articles on the strategy, but people refuse to listen. Instead relying on clips by talking head mainstream media.
So? That doesn’t mean a moron like Lancaster understands them.
So? That doesn't mean a moron like the POTUS understands them. Or his minions.
And Trump’s tariff strategy is part of a larger pa,n, which is never discussed here.
As repeated endlessly, the "larger plan" is irrelevant to fundamentals; i.e., taxes raise prices. Always. Forever. Period. Also the plan itself is moronic, again repeated endlessly.
Now move along. Adults are trying to have a conversation.
Adults. Right. Can't wait to see how the "Adults" like AT and Sevo weigh in on this. Such much Adulting going on in these here comments.
Have you checked the September inflation rate, by chance? Or multiple current economic analyses from multiple sources which, almost sorrowfully, admit that tariffs are having little, if any, effect on prices? How about the end of Reagan's speech (completely ignored by Lancaster, btw, what a hack), defending the freedom of presidents to impose tariffs for the good of the nation?
Just go home, you're done.
Democrats also ignore the negative impact of foreign tariffs in US exports, as if exports don’t exist at all.
Funny how you fail to address what I said. Instead you rave. And I’ve never seen you once discuss US exports.
You’re just fixated in hating Trump, getting an extra 5% off on cheap Chinese shot made by slave labor. Which you support.
You mean the tariffs that we control and negatively impact our citizens and businesses vs. the tariffs that other countries control that negatively impact their citizens and businesses?
You seem to he ignorant about what the impact of tariffs are, and who they impact.
Hint: trade deficits don’t matter, but extra costs hurt American businesses and workers.
Just so you can think it out, if raising costs on fast food businesses in California resulted in job losses, what happens when costs are raised on most American businesses?
If they're such a negative impact - why do other countries have them?
And why hasn't it shown up in the data?
So long as they have slaves, why should we care about anything less than maximum profit?
/Whigs
Because the governments there aren't responding to what the people want? They are instead responding to what rent-seeking companies want. They want protectionist tariffs so as to subsidize their bottom lines.
"If socialism is bad, why do other countries have it" would also not be a very good argument for the US to embrace socialism.
In fact, it would be a very bad argument for socialism, just like it's a bad argument for tariffs. The good argument for these tariffs, that Trump himself is abysmal at making consistently, is that the world has been efectively blocking out our products for generations. And that actually reciprocal tariffs, with the actual goal of getting everyone to disarm, would be a huge win for American producers.
But every time he goes off on one of these eleventy million percent increases because someone momentarily ruffled his feathers, Trump makes it look an awful lot like he has no fucking clue what he's doing. Which makes it less likely that his party will remain in power. Which makes it less likely the tariffs will ever achieve that goal (if it is his goal at all).
It would be somewhat acceptable if Trump were in fact trying to use tariffs only as a cudgel to get lower tariffs. I thought that was the case in Trump 1.0.
But in Trump 2.0 he's shown his lack of economic understanding by somehow expecting countries to have even trade (no deficits), which is virtually impossible to manage that level of trade even if we wanted to. It's another form of mercanitlism, which was all but left on the trash heap after Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations. Maybe Trump should read it?
One quibble: as we saw under Biden, Democrats are just fine with tariffs so I bet most of them stay. Especially if they keep bringing in revenue.
Entirely possible. But I doubt anyone in the modern Democratic party is interested in leaving them in place just for the purpose of reducing tariffs long term. Democrats think all taxes are a good in and of themselves, and they have no negative impact on the economy. As does a chunk of the Republican party, apparently.
“ If they're such a negative impact - why do other countries have them?”
Because they also make bad decisions? You seem to think that if someone does something, that means it’s a good idea. The world doesn’t work that way.
But if you need at least one concrete point, countries whose businesses largely export aren’t hurt as much by tariffs. Countries like the US, whose companies largely import components and raw materials, are.
Understanding what kind of economy your country has helps determine how much damage tariffs do. For a country like the United States, it is a lot of damage. For a country that doesn’t import much, it hurts a lot less.
I see many articles, in my local newspaper and on Reason, about how farmers are hurting from tariffs. Raising they costs for machinery while losing their foreign customers.
China used to buy one of every three soybeans grown in America. Since April? Zero. That’s why Trump wants to bail them out, so people don’t see how bad tariffs and trade wars are.
Cool story bro. You got anymore democrat fan fiction you’d care to puke up for us?
You appear to be unaware of the existence of US exports. Which are negatively impacted by foreign tariffs.
It’s not proof at all.
Well, this article is proof that Lancaster is a democrat shill, and an idiot.
§1702. Presidential authorities
(a) In general
(1) At the times and to the extent specified in section 1701 of this title, the President may, under such regulations as he may prescribe, by means of instructions, licenses, or otherwise-
(A) investigate, regulate, or prohibit-
(i) any transactions in foreign exchange,
(ii) transfers of credit or payments between, by, through, or to any banking institution, to the extent that such transfers or payments involve any interest of any foreign country or a national thereof,
(iii) the importing or exporting of currency or securities,
Good luck arguing that tariffs are not an allowable means of regulating payments to foreign nationals when he has the authority to outright prohibit the payments. Section 1701 grants the power to the President to declare a national emergency regarding a threat to the economy. And these emergencies routine last for years. So it's a big uphill battle to quibble about the definition of "unusual".
Good luck arguing that tariffs are not an allowable means of regulating payments to foreign nationals when he has the authority to outright prohibit the payments.
I think the entire argument will hinge on whether or not the declared emergency (upon which there powers rest) is justifiable as an "unusual and extraordinary threat," and whether or not Congress exceeded it's power to delegate away constitutionally defined powers.
Your last sentence says a lot about everything.
Akchewally - it will first depend on whether declaring emergencies is something the court can review *at all*. And it would be weird if a district court judge could set the condition on which a *national* action could be taken.
Based on recent decisions, the declaration of the president can not be second guessed by an inferior court.
it will first depend on whether declaring emergencies is something the court can review *at all*
True. And also whether the actions taken under the declaration are justifiable.
And it would be weird if a district court judge could set the condition on which a *national* action could be taken.
This why the district court stayed it's own decision awaiting a ruling by the Supreme Court, where it will be heard next month.
Because it's limited to foreign commerce, I suspect they will give congress a lot of leeway to delegate.
So long as there is some mechanism for congress to review and rescind individual actions.
IANAL
"Regulate" is not the same as "impose duties/tariffs on". Words have meaning and it not good constitutional law to transfer a major power of Congress to the president based on one word that does not even name that power.
From a source you would trust: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariff_(regulation)#:~:text=They%20have%20also%20generally%20been,within%20a%20specific%20geographic%20area.
Or perhaps you prefer Yale: https://www.yalejreg.com/nc/tariffs-as-a-means-of-regulating-commerce-by-chad-squitieri/
Oopsies.
Tony is also fond of anything written by CPUSA.
Funny how you never voiced the slightest concern when Biden was levying tariffs.
Lancaster's webzine tantrums prove he shouldn't have the power.
Should we say the same with journalistic and judicial tantrums? Should those people never be listened to or respected again?
I like how you just dance a waltz around the actual argument - the Orange Man, our POTUS, is upset by an AD by an
allycountry we're negotiating trade talks with. Orange Man, our POTUS, then cancels trade talks and imposes 100% percent tariffs on said country. Because he's upset.1. Does Orange Man getting upset (dare I say "triggered" like some insecure college lefty?) actually constitute an "emergency" for leveling tariffs willy nilly?
2. Is it completely OK with you if a Democrat in the White House behave this way?
"...Does Orange Man..."
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled slimy pile of lying lefty shit.
"I dislike someone and how they use powers therefore they shouldn't be allowed to use powers" is one hell of a constitutional argument.
Only you would be stupid enough to think that’s what the argument is or dishonest enough to falsely claim that’s what the argument is.
Or both. With paleocons, it’s usually both.
Considering 'president' without just the name 'Trump' didn't come-about until the 2nd paragraph; I'd say he's spot-on.
Another JesseAz strawman.
This encapsulates a simple truth: No single person should have the unitary authority to impose tariffs on other countries.
The Founders clearly agreed.
E.O. Tariffs over 100-years is not a straw-man.
It is exactly what has happened over the last 100-years.
Ok. The argument Jesse is making up in his head is that Joe doesn't like Trump and is only wanting to limit his "powers" because it's Trump. Did you read this thread in the conversation before responding?
Ref; My second post-up
Considering 'president' without just the name 'Trump'...
Perhaps Joe meant Presidents shouldn't have taxing w/o representation powers but that's not how the article was titled / started.
My quote in italics on my post clearly dispute that his stated purpose is just limiting Trump.
Maybe you are unaware of the rules.
If Trump does something terrible, unjust, unlawful or just plain stupid, Democrats did it first.
Criticizing Trump equals defending Democrats.
So if you criticize Trump for anything, you are in fact defending Democrats for doing the same thing.
That’s what most in these comments really believe.
So if you say Trump’s tariffs are a drain on the economy, they see you claiming Biden’s tariffs grew the economy.
And they say his critics are deranged.
Still waiting ............................ (endlessly) for you to criticize Democrats instead of JUST-Trump for legislating E.O. Tariffs.
Self-Projection ... It's all you do; day after day after day.
Democrats are not in power, moron.
Democrats were definitely "in power" when they passed every single E.O. Tariff bill that exists.
Do you criticize Democrats for any of those bills or JUST-Trump?
And if you answer that with any amount of honesty you'd see you're all about WHO not WHAT.
Democrat morons seek to make electric power as illegal as the other looters made acid. Yet they wonder howcum they lost and what it is that made even Trump seem less repellent to close to half of them that bothered to vote.
I'd have more fun watching the looter nazis and looter commies go at it if there were more bloodshed. In Germany in 1931 there were sth like 30 looter parties filling the hospitals and morgues with one another. Today the simpering wimps invade libertarian comments to spit at each other while struggling to evade noticing the unsympathetic libertarians.
Right, right. That settles it.
Found a phrase 11-paragraphs down that addressed 'single person'. Guess it wasn't titled/sub-titled and 10-paragraphs centered on JUST Trump at all! /s
Stop noticing the slant!
“That libertarian slant is leftist because it’s against Trump, and anything against Trump is for Democrats.”
Thought you were smarter than that. My bad. Sorry for overestimating you.
Yes Sarc. Being against Trump who has De-Regulated, Cut-Taxes, Abolishing Agencies, Exited the Paris Accord, Cut the EPA, Exited the W.H.O., cut-spending, lobbies for school-choice etc, etc, etc ... *is* leftist *not* libertarian.
I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you owned the monopoly on making mockingly sarcastic unserious comments from time to time. My bad.
Jesse lacks the intelligence to discuss topics so he attacks people. It’s all he’s got. I’d feel sorry for him if he wasn’t also a lying sack of shit.
Nelson "Only you", "stupid", "dishonest"
You "lacks the intelligence", "all he’s got", "lying sack of shit"
You, "It's Jesse who attacks people."
Leftard Self-Projection. It's all they really have got left.
The Constitution says the Prez is supposed to enforce laws passed by congress and command armed forces. I saw nothing authorizing the guy to meddle in tariffs. Even Hoover had to call Congress into special session to get them to add deadly force to the 1922 tariff act. That took sth like a year.
I cannot take seriously anyone who uses a term such as "tantrum" when discussing policy.
Joe was just having a tantrum as usual. Argument by children.
Even worse is when a politician, including the POTUS, arguably one of, if not THE, most powerful people on P.E., actually throws one. Great optics, wouldn't you say?
Your Case & Point as well as the authors is loud and clear....
Title: Trump's Tariff Tantrum Proves !!!-He-!!! Shouldn't Have That Power.
'HE' as in JUST-Trump shouldn't have that power.
100% TDS.
What term would you prefer? Fit of pique? Hysteria? Apoplexy?
"Triggered"
And the rest of the non-MAGA world can not take seriously a president who has tantrums. Do you have a term you like better?
Non-MAGA's legislated the tantrums into E.O.
Does the "Pen & Desk" all the sudden skip your selective memory?
You imagine MG has memory? That single brain-cell asswipe?
The word tantrum is appropriate when discussing the crybaby in chief.
Sarc doesn't attack people. Only Jesse does! /s
Has Satan had Trump's baby yet?
The reality is we should not be looking to SCOTUS to stop the goofy tariff policies of the Trump administration. That work should really be done by Congress. If the President thinks that tariffs are needed he should be asking Congress. I suspect that Republicans in Congress want no part in imposing tariffs and so they simply let the President impose them.
Your damn right they don't want the heat. I am close enough to Iowa to read or get suggested articles about the Iowa farmers plight right now. Iowa is obviously a huge soybean growing region. Welp, they lost about 1/3rd or more of their market in retaliation for Trump's tariffs imposed on China.
BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE: he also slapped tariffs on Canada which is the main source of the raw materials that go into the fertilizer they spray on their fields to grow the soybeans. AND THEN also tariffs on steel and aluminum that go into all their farm equipment to harvest and store and then move the crops to market.
It's like Trump wants them to fail. BUT WAIT the farmers have federal insurance to help. But no, they can't access the regional field offices because DOGE either closed them OR due to the shutdown, they are furloughed indefinitely.
The point is; come spring, if you want to buy repossessed farm land at auction, there is likely to be a lot for sale in the MAGA proud state of Iowa.
Now, let me tell you a little story about beef...
Tariffs are all about picking winners. Nobody wants to talk about all of the losers along the way. In most cases the suffering is worse than whatever benefit the rent-seekers think they will get. It's exactly why central planning doesn't work. Even if you could gather all of the information to make a rational decision, there is too much corruption in lobbying for your own benefit at the expense of your customers.
Steel industry wants protection from foreign steel, so we tariff foreign steel. Countless industries that manufacture steel components suffer because the price of steel goes up.
Cattle ranchers want protection, so we tariff foreign beef. Consumers suffer as beef prices skyrocket.
We don't like China because we have a trade imbalance so we tariff all of their exports. It turns out they import a whole lot of soybeans and believe in tit-for-tat game theory. So our farmers suffer as they lose access to that market.
Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Unfortunately anybody who had a passing grade in Econ 101 would have been able to predict these outcomes, but as Reagan actually said, "When someone says, 'Let's impose tariffs on foreign imports,' it looks like they're doing the patriotic thing by protecting American products and jobs," and that's all the bought-and-paid for politicians care about.
Precisely so. But as you may be able to tell from some of the responses, cultists believe in faith-based economics, not to mention that they think Trump is a macroeconomic genius.
Unfortunately it didn't start with the Trump cult. GW Bush pretty much embraced central planning in economics during his presidency. Ever since then, it's hard to tell the Republicans from the Democrats on economic policy with the noted exception of R's wanting to cut taxes.
Take for example GW Bush's own tariffs (although more targeted than Trump's) or both Bush and Trump's inclinations to take equity stakes in private companies. Not to mention Bush's quote which was something like, "in order to save the free market we have to abandon free market principles," or some such nonsense.
Unfortunately it started with Democrats UN-Constitutional legislation (E.O. Tariffs).
Unfortunately it started with Democrats [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism] creating a massive DEBT.
Unfortunately it started with Coastal [D]emocrats insisting their goods didn't need taxed at all (0%) while domestic needed to be taxed 80%.
Predictably pushing all USA manufacturing abroad.
The question isn't about whether Democrats are for free markets or not. They obviously aren't. The problem is that Republicans are supposed to be the party of economic liberty. They often say the right things and then do what the Democrats do. This behavior has started, arguably, under GH-W Bush and accelerated with the 2 more recent Republican presidents.
The [D] [Na]tional So[zi]alist DEBT is why Republicans cannot support as much free-market as you wish they would.
Bills have to be paid.
And it is entirely dishonest to pretend Trump DIDN'T do Tax-Cuts, De-Regulated and altogether supported free-markets as best he could honorably do without just ignoring the MASSIVE DEBT.
The demented rantings of Joe Lancaster prove he is a TDS-addled lying pile of slimy shit who should fuck off and die.
TDS is a mental illness characterized by believing anything Trump says and defending everything he does. Facts, truth, legality, morality, and what they stood for yesterday are not relevant. Many with TDS falsely accuse others of doing what they are actually doing.
"Many with TDS falsely accuse others of doing what they are actually doing."
...and nothing says that more-so than passing E.O. Legislation, using it for 100-years and then crying 'Trump'.
I repeat, being accused of TDS by a cultist is like being accused of HDS by a Scientologist
I repeat: Being a TDS-addled slimy pile of lying shit causes TDS-addled slimy piles of lying shit to accuse others of the mental illness, TDS-addled slimy pile of lying shit.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
I repeat, being accused of being a cultist by a "TDS [WE] Identify-as RULES leftard" is literally getting accused by the very source of cult building.
It’s like being accused of being baptized by a born-again.
Truth.
Yes, interesting crowd of Trumpists seem drawn here today, parroting echo-chamber talking points while demonstrating little awareness that countering evidence exists. Mostly, it's simple vandalism, the equivalent of gang-tagging, of spray-painting graffiti on somebody else's wall to try to virtue-signal other members of their gang.
But like you, I appreciate their excellent examples of Trump Derangement Syndrome, typified by lack of logic, self-awareness, self-control, and shame; and display of the emotionally obsessive resentment, envy, greed, fear, and rage that drives the Trump base. The most virulent strain of TDS (as demonstrated by a number of commenters) primarily infects those susceptible because of a preexisting condition: a potentially deadly combination of unjustified moral superiority and entirely justified insecurity.
This TDS, in its final stages, drives its victims to the characteristic lust—horrific yet cartoonish—for a Caudillo, a Strong Man leader, someone powerful to validate the greed, bullying, sexual abuse, racism, and xenophobia they once felt they had to suppress in front of others (what St. Augustine called the libido dominante (or lust to dominate—the downfall of The City of Man).
TDS-infected as it is with a strain of Trump’s inherent narcissistic solipsism, we're not going to win over a Trump base incapable of considering anything in terms beyond, does it make me feel bad?
What we will do is eventually work through and fix those flaws in our particular flavor of constitutional representative democracy that are preventing the will of the consistent majority of Americans—We the People rejecting the future Trump stands for—to be accurately expressed in the principles and practices of our government.
Truth.
Countering evidence the Democrats legislation is UN-Constitution.
All leftards know how to do is Self-Project / Blame-Shift.
Which is precisely why they all think Gov-Guns needs to take care of them.
They can't be held responsible for anything they do.
This shit reads like the sour droppings of a transsexual Kirkland. Congratulations.
Purple Martin, your post is more substantive than most. I suggest expanding it to include examples and reworking it into an editorial to submit to _Reason_ or some other publication.
Trump's imposing tariffs on Canada in response to the ad is of course petty, vindictive and unconstitutional, and hence will be applauded by the usual suspects.
I wonder whether SC is going to cut the baby in half by saying that Trump lacks the authority but that couldn't have been known for sure before their ruling and so all payments made prior to the decision cannot be refunded.
Democrats legislating E.O. Tarrifs is of course petty, vindictive and unconstitutional, and hence will be applauded by the usual suspects.
Until all of the sudden one day 'Trump' orders them and all the Democrats cry like babies.
YES. SCOTUS absolutely should rule every E.O. Tariff legislation that Demon-rats wrote/passed UN-Constitutional as well as practically every legislation Democrats have wrote/passed because UN-Constitutional is about all they know how to do.
Only surpassed by their ability to Self-Project all their UN-Constitutional sh*t onto the other side.
When Democrats tax businesses it hurts the economy.
When Trump taxes businesses it makes us rich.
The effect of taxes is determined by who imposes them. See?
When Trump taxes imports and tax-cuts domestic it hurt the economy.
When Biden taxes imports and proposes domestic tax-increases it makes us rich!
Funny how ^that^ is what is seen from you leftards everyday.
Tariffs are taxes on businesses that import stuff. Period. That’s all they are. Do you understand that or not?
By the way Reason was plenty critical of Biden’s tariffs. You don’t remember because you ignore articles that contradict your idiotic belief that anyone who criticizes Trump is a leftist. You pretend they don’t exist. But that doesn’t make it so.
And when all else fails... You can always resort, again, to making-up imaginary straw-men and what they believe so you can defeat that.
Never-mind how the DEBT got so important in Reason articles when Biden/Democrats were proposing Tax-Increases huh? Have I biased missed all the DEBT articles lately?
Do you understand that tariffs are taxes that domestic companies must pay to the federal government before taking possession of imported goods?
Yes or no.
For example a domestic company imports $100,000 worth of widgets from China and there is a 100% tariff on Chinese goods. They pay $100,000 to the company in China which then ships the goods. The goods arrive and are put into a bonded location. In order to take possession of them the domestic company must pay another $100,000 to the federal government.
Do you understand this, yes or no?
EVERY-BODY F'EN UNDERSTANDS THAT YOU IGNORANT D*PSHIT...
They only reason you pretend anyone doesn't is to create something to defeat in your own head.
EVERY-BODY F'EN UNDERSTANDS THAT YOU IGNORANT D*PSHIT...
No, not everybody does. Many people believe that when Trump says he's going to make China pay with tariffs, that China is paying the tariffs. Sometimes I think Trump believes that, depending upon who he is talking to.
Ok. So you finally admit that tariffs are domestic taxes imposed by the domestic government on domestic businesses.
Can we agree that taxing businesses is a drag on the economy? When Democrats do it it's a drag on the economy. I think we can agree on that. What makes tariffs any different? They're just another tax on businesses. When Democrats raise taxes on businesses, companies do some combination of cutting staff, cutting shareholder profits, and raising prices. So the people who pay are workers, people with a 401K, and customers. Guess who pays when Trump imposes tariffs? Did you guess workers, people with a 401K, and customers? If so, good job.
So if you understand all of this, why do you defend tariffs? The only difference between them and other business taxes is who is imposing them. That's it.
Do you not understand that when your goods have Tariffs placed upon them it abstractly costs you (china) by having less-competitive goods?
Do you not understand that taxes on imported goods =/= taxes on domestic made goods?
If you understand all of this, why do you keep trying to discard the obvious with deceptive =/= literals?
The only difference between them, beyond imported vs. domestic-made, is....
one was at 0% while the other is at 80%
And that obvious UNFAIR 'planned' targeted-tax discrepancy you're trying to maintain by the obvious fact you can't praise Trumps domestic tax-cuts and spending-cuts.
Leftards are UPSET....
That it is...................... Make America Great Again!
Instead of................... Make Foreigners Great Again!
...because they are [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s] who "conquer and consume" others greener-pastures instead of "earn" what they "get/want".
I’ll take that as an emphatic no. No, you do not understand.
Yes I understand how protectionism works. I also understand who pays for it and who the taxes hurt. You don’t.
Yes I understand that tariffs are not taxes on domestic goods. I also understand who pays for them and who those taxes hurt. You don’t.
Or you do and don’t care. Well, I do.
Doesn’t matter who does it.
I opposed Biden’s tariffs. You were silent. Why is that? If you opposed them then in principle you’d have to oppose Trump’s tariffs. Can’t do that. If you support them then you’re supporting a Democrat. Can’t do that. That’s deranged.
That’s determining right and wrong based upon who, not what.
Principals, not principles.
"I opposed Biden’s tariffs. You were silent."
Because (0% vs. 80%) is not fair tax-policy.
You're are literally proving I'm not about WHO here.
And I did curse Biden & [D]s trying to increase domestic taxes.
And literally pointed out to you the difference between the two.
Yet here you are insisting Trump Tariffs are UN-Constitutional while not saying a word about Biden's Tariffs being UN-Constitutional (or the 100-years prior).
You are exactly WHO not WHAT with only Self-Projection trying to save you.
Plus your imaginary straw-man that you get state exactly what it believes. (which is completely opposite of reality)
You tell 'em, Sarc!
Whatever it takes to keep people from paying attention to those libertarian spoiler voters behind the curtain, right?
I find the headline of this article rude and infantilizing of our president. Reading the article as a whole it doesn’t get better. Is TDS so entrenched at Reason that you can’t even write an objective article? No need to answer, it’s self evident.
Perhaps if the president didn’t act like an infant people wouldn’t compare him to one.
rude and infantilizing of our president.
What did you think of the Trump video showing him shitting on No Kings demonstrators?
The "#NOT [OUR] KING" demonstrators?
Pretty patriotic because a KING is the last thing the USA needs.
Contrary to all the KING legislation the [D]emon-stators wrote/passed.
Pretty patriotic because a KING is the last thing the USA needs.
So you support demonstrations against having a king, right?
I support REPEALING Democrats KING (E.O. Tariff) legislation.
I don't support TDS hypocrites who are upset their KING didn't get elected.
AI Harry Sisson getting shit on is always going to be funny.
Masked and butthurt Christian National Socialist sockpuppet detected... Somebody break out the butthurt salve.
Trump tariffs are a counterpoint to offshoring of labor, manufacturing, and capital investment to our largest enemy, China. It is anti-globalism, an America-first policy, which is the mandate wave he rode to victory. Provide a better solution to the hollowing out of American middle class, you f***ing stupid libs, otherwise, stfu.
I take it you're unfamiliar with economics, in particular, the idea of comparative advantage. You also appear to be unaware of how strong the US's manufacturing and agricultural sectors are - and have been for a while.
Imposing tariffs is basically getting Americans to subsidise or protect inefficient domestic industries while, owing to tit-for-tat, penalising efficient export-orientated US industries.
And erecting trade barriers will leave the US behind in economic development - not exactly what American-firsters want, I think. Or maybe they do, Maybe they'd rather a lower standard of living with more people employed in manual labour, in factories, etc., just to stick it to those nasty globalists.
BTW 49.8% is not a mandate wave.
LMAO... Are you completely oblivious to the USA subsidizing shipping on imports? (via the UPU)
Is there any topic out there the left can 'own' up to what they're doing instead of constantly trying to flip-it-upside-down?
Surely 0%-taxed (imports) must be subsidizing 80%-taxed (domestic) in the land where 0>80. No wonder math has to be racist. It's the only-way to explain how $ZERO is subsiding anything.
“Surely 0%-taxed (imports) must be subsidizing 80%-taxed (domestic) in the land where 0>80. No wonder math has to be racist. It's the only-way to explain how $ZERO is subsiding anything.”
What the fuck does that mean?
Is there anyone fluent in Retard who can translate that into English?
Nobody can translate Leftards into comprehensible English.
Comprehensible and Leftard are complete opposites.
As stated ... "explain how $ZERO is subsiding anything"
Give it up. The more you shout the more demented and incoherent you sound - bad grammar and punctuation included. Just calorie-free word salad. Content-free gibberish. Intelligence-free pyschobabble.
Doesn't have to be this way. You can learn and change. Always remember that.
When every logical-point has failed them and their self-projection has been called-out ....
There's always personal attacks for the WIN!
...because that's how "[WE] Identify-as RULES" gangsters roll.
TJJ2000 emulates President Trump. However, I think that the President lacks the capacity to change.
Wherein you do not address my argument at all, because you can't, either because you're ignorant or stupid, Note: incoherent garbage is not an argument.
You tell me which part you don't understand and I'll explain it.
Much of that is in Smith's book way older'n the Constitution. Smith also made an exception for defense-related production to justify his backing the Acts of Navigation. Most of what Jesus looters the Don panders to do is declare SOME production and trade a felony and get gendarmes to gun people down. Much of this initiation of force is in the tariff acts. Hoover's 1930 tariff changed few rates up or down, but made shoot-to-kill with immunity from prosecution official government policy. THAT, not the schedules, brought Crash, Depression and War.
"Our trade policy rests firmly on the foundation of free and open markets," Reagan said in 1985.
Does China's? Or does their trade policy rest firmly on the foundation of slavery, theft of intellectual property, and getting people addicted to fentanyl?
Even so, IEEPA never mentioned tariffs, and yet Trump cited the statute to impose tariffs on dozens of other countries, implausibly claiming persistent trade deficits constitute national emergencies.
Odd how you ignored his other valid claims under 19 USC.
Doesn't just have to be an emergency there, Joey.
Canadian news is full of the Reagan speech. That Republican dissed tariff protectionism in April, then screeched JUST SAY NO, ZERO TOLERANCE, PEE IN THE CUP OR BE FIRED, and gleefully signed the 1986 anti-drug-abuse act which led straight to the 1987 Crash. Grunts with guns invaded and looted South America for straying from gin and cigarettes. Texas Totalitarians scribbled up even worse laws and set up fake banks to launder money. Finally they invaded Panama because production and trade there were crimes by Yew Ess Kleptocracy laws. Then everyone acted surprised when Brazil crashed with Weimar hyperinflation!
*invests another $10K in REYN*
The President should not be able to unilaterally raise taxes.