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Tariffs

'Fraudulent' Use of Reagan

Plus: Argentine election results, whether Zohran's running mostly on economic issues, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 10.27.2025 9:30 AM

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Don't piss Trump off: On Saturday, President Donald Trump announced an additional 10 percent tariff on all goods imported from Canada because he was angry about the "fraudulent" use of Ronald Reagan's words in an anti-tariff ad produced by the province of Ontario.

Trump: "They cheated on a commercial. Ronald Reagan loved tariffs and they said he didn't. And I guess it was AI or something. They cheated badly. Canada got caught cheating on a commercial. Can you believe it?" pic.twitter.com/3EzUEsDbxW

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 25, 2025

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The commercial in fact used very standard editing, with nothing deceptive that distorted the meaning. All the words were from Reagan's 1987 speech condemning protectionism and advocating free trade:

When someone says, 'Let's impose tariffs on foreign imports,' it looks like they're doing the patriotic thing by protecting American products and jobs. And sometimes for a short while it works—but only for a short time….High tariffs inevitably lead to retaliation by foreign countries and the triggering of fierce trade wars….Then the worst happens: Markets shrink and collapse; businesses and industries shut down; and millions of people lose their jobs.

Throughout the world there's a growing realization that the way to prosperity for all nations is rejecting protectionist legislation and promoting fair and free competition. America's jobs and growth are at stake.

Ontario has now pulled the anti-tariff ad off the air, which strikes me as an odd decision. The damage has already been done, and what's the point in kowtowing? Do they believe he'll keep ratcheting the tariffs up the longer it stays on?

This lays bare what many people have been saying all along: There's not much rhyme or reason to Trump's protectionism. It's not a cohesive economic theory. It's not about shoring up critical American defense capabilities or supply-chain sturdiness in the event of war. It's not about revitalization of the hollowed-out Rust Belt. It's not about trying to get revenue so taxes can be cut (or so the federal government can work its way out of the debt hole). It's about…Trump wanting to impose tariffs, and believing contra all logic and evidence that they're part of the path to prosperity.

Argentina's election: The results are in. President Javier Milei's party, La Libertad Avanza, did very, very well in the midterm elections held yesterday—far better than expected, receiving more than 40 percent of the vote.

The election was widely viewed as a referendum on his progress so far. Argentine voters were deciding whether they wanted to stay the course despite the short-term pain caused by some of the president's attempts to curb inflation and excess government spending.

Consider Bloomberg's illustrative piece on yerba mate, a popular caffeinated Argentine drink (that I happen to drink a lot of). There was a national yerba mate regulatory body, called INYM, created in 2002 in response to a short period of deregulation in which planting limits had been repealed and oversupply had driven prices down, pissing off farmers. It had extensive powers to set prices—until Milei reined it in. The inflation-adjusted cost of the drink then fell.

Now—just like in the early '00s—there's been a political backlash from the growers themselves. The courts have also tried to block Milei's deregulation, but he found a workaround: INYM can't set price controls until its officials are appointed by the federal government, so the federal government is simply choosing not to do so.

Milei is making the correct and prudent long-term decisions, yet it looked for a moment there like he was in danger of facing terrible short-term political consequences for these policies: In Misiones, where Bloomberg interviewed growers, three congressional seats were contested. (His party ended up doing well there, though not as well as it performed nationally.)

All of this just goes to show: Milei's agenda is deeply polarizing.

"A big question in these midterms is whether the voters in traditionally Peronist provinces that swung to Milei two years ago would stay with him," notes Bloomberg. "At Argentina's border, the strong peso and Bolivia's weak currency are fueling a contraband boom in a province that shifted toward Milei in the presidential race. Voters in Salta overwhelmingly elected Milei two years ago, but as businesses close or struggle to compete with half-price products flowing over the border, frustrated voters, including Milei's own supporters, say the illicit trade has never been this bad." (La Libertad Avanza still performed well in Salta.)


Scenes from New York: I agree completely, and also find it somewhat sad that we're already doing the "what worked/what didn't" postgame, since it's such a foregone conclusion that he's going to win.

This entire idea that Zohran ran an economics-centered campaign is a lie cooked up by his last few weeks dodging everything else he's ever said combined with a part of the right who wants to use him as part of their populist economics minus woke thesis. He has placed identity and… https://t.co/lydXY22Qzj

— Inez Stepman ⚪️????⚪️ (@InezFeltscher) October 26, 2025


QUICK HITS

  • "I am not done" in politics, said former Vice President Kamala Harris over the weekend, hinting at the possibility of a 2028 presidential run in an interview with the BBC.
  • "Negotiators have reached a framework of a trade deal to avert additional 100 percent tariffs that President Donald Trump had threatened to impose on imports from China, setting the stage for the U.S. president's highly anticipated meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping on Thursday," reports The Washington Post. 
  • "When betting the NBA, a difference of a single point—say, Vegas has the Miami Heat favored by 3 points, but you think they should be favored by 4—is enough to turn a losing bet into a winning one, or vice versa. But the availability or lack thereof of a LeBron, a Steph, or a Jokic can shift the point spread by 6 points, 8 points, or even more. It is extremely valuable to have inside information about who's actually playing—the sort of info that the alleged conspirators had," writes Nate Silver at Silver Bulletin, in reference to the scandal involving "the mafia, two federal indictments, and the arrest of an NBA player and head coach."
  • "If this president feels that [alleged narcotraffickers are] doing something illegally, then he should be using the Coast Guard," said Sen. Ruben Gallego (D–Ariz.) on Meet the Press, in reference to Trump's strikes against boats in the Caribbean. "If it's an act of war, then you use our military, and then you come and talk to us first. But this is murder. It's sanctioned murder that he is doing." This comes on the heels of Trump ordering the USS Gerald R. Ford carrier strike group to the Caribbean and Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro taunting him, saying "the people of the United States know it, they are inventing a new eternal war."

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  1. Chumby   6 hours ago

    Une Idée

    France, 26/10/25. Antifas attacked a memorial for Lola (12yr old girl murdered by Algerian migrant) but students beat them and the antifas ran away.

    - Live Leak (yup, video there)

    I wonder if Lola debated middle school students.

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    1. Idaho-Bob   6 hours ago

      Retaliatory violence is the only solution.

      I say we run bounties on the characters. $100 for beating a Pikachu. $75 for Sonic.

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      1. Chumby   6 hours ago

        What about the frog? Talking about the costume and not the French.

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        1. Idaho-Bob   5 hours ago

          Not gonna lie, you had me in the first half.

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        2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

          I thought pepe was alt right now.

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          1. Chumby   5 hours ago

            Saw him at one of the organized idea gatherings. He got pepper sprayed.

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            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

              These puns wont have the legs to continue.

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              1. Chumby   4 hours ago

                Think they will croak?

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                1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

                  I toad you no more puns.

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                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

                    Then hop to it.

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                    1. Chumby   2 hours ago

                      Some folks like puns, some don’t, and others are amphibuous about them.

      2. chemjeff radical individualist   4 hours ago

        Wait, is Idaho Bob advocating for violence against political foes? I thought only the left did that!

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

          He’s discussing retaliation which is valid as one side, the other side, has already violated the NAP.

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        2. Mother's Lament   3 hours ago

          "DeFeNdInG YoUrSeLf oR fiGhTiNG bAcK iS aDvoCaTinG viOleNcE"

          If you keep killing people you may find that it might not always be easy.

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          1. DesigNate   2 hours ago

            His streak of completely misrepresenting what people post (as though the rest of us can’t see the word “retaliatory”) remains unbroken.

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            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

              I was referring to the "bounty" portion of the comment.

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              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 hours ago

                The bounties on video game characters?

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          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 hours ago

            Still my new favorite.

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    2. Michael Ejercito   5 hours ago

      Antifa was founded by German Communists.

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  2. Fist of Etiquette   6 hours ago

    ...President Donald Trump announced an additional 10 percent tariff on all goods imported from Canada because he was angry about the "fraudulent" use of Ronald Reagan's words in an anti-tariff ad produced by the province of Ontario.

    I miss the good old days when people fought over the right to invoke MLK.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

      Thanks to wokeism is now segregated to the dust bins of history.

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      1. Mother's Lament   3 hours ago

        "I have a dream that my four little children (tied up in my basement) will one day live in a nation where they will be judged by the color of their skin not by the content of their character" - Martin Luther Chemjeff

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    2. Wizzle Bizzle   4 hours ago

      I miss the gold old days when the free market crowd was against tariffs. (At least rhetorically.) I'm glad Liz gets it.

      *This lays bare what many people have been saying all along: There's not much rhyme or reason to Trump's protectionism. It's not a cohesive economic theory. It's not about shoring up critical American defense capabilities or supply-chain sturdiness in the event of war. It's not about revitalization of the hollowed-out Rust Belt. It's not about trying to get revenue so taxes can be cut (or so the federal government can work its way out of the debt hole). It's about…Trump wanting to impose tariffs, and believing contra all logic and evidence that they're part of the path to prosperity.*

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      1. mad.casual   3 hours ago

        I miss the gold old days when the free market crowd was against tariffs.

        *The* Classical Liberals that founded the country, the same one's that did so by throwing the EIC's tea into the harbor to protest The King, did so primarily through tariffs.

        If you want to talk about "borders are just a figment of imagination", then IP is an effective borderless *embargo* enacted by a government on *thoughts*.

        The globohomo order is staked on MMT as birthed by Keynesian economics. The notion that ill-gotten goods should be economically disincentivized is far more libertarian and Austrian school than the status quo by leaps and bounds. A *glance* at the lockdowns, bailouts, and international banking and trade regulations should make it abundantly clear that anyone who thinks tariffs are *the* economic and/or cultural evil we face today is a retard.

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        1. Wizzle Bizzle   3 hours ago

          So tariffs can't also be bad? Particularly when they're implemented with no grand strategy by a single politician who is, at best, erratic?

          Criticizing something that is an obvious clusterfuck doesn't make it "*the* economic and/or cultural evil we face today."

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          1. Dillinger   3 hours ago

            seems foolish to call something an obvious clusterfuck before the moms even hand out orange slices and the goalies are switched out.

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          2. mad.casual   3 hours ago

            Particularly when they're implemented with no grand strategy by a single politician who is, at best, erratic?

            Libertarians for 5 yr. plans?

            He's cut and cut and cut and we're currently in a shutdown. The previous administration appears to have run effectively on autopilot with favorable media coverage. I don't know what your expectations are or were, but even for perfection they seem unrealistic.

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          3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 hours ago

            Allowing one side in a market to have increased powers or ability to manipulate a market is in fact bad.

            This is why we dont pretend to act as if a system is ideal. Redundancy is built into systems for a reason.

            The one sided free market is like letting only criminals have guns.

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      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

        The good old days where people lied about tariffs screaming free market despite the presence of tariffs globally?

        There has never been a zero tariff market. Ever.

        Generally when people scream no tariffs they just mean none for the US. But this creates market advantages and manipulations controlled by foreign actors. This has been discussed for centuries.

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        1. Wizzle Bizzle   3 hours ago

          100%. We've been the world's bitch for generations. It's why many of us gave him a lot of rope to play this out. But every time he does something like this, it becomes increasingly clear he is not fit to wield this power.

          Pity we don't have a functional Congress anymore. A large, deliberative body would at least be less fickle than one guy.

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          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   3 hours ago

            Would it really? They closed down the government because they want to extend temporary subsidies that expired.

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            1. Wizzle Bizzle   3 hours ago

              A FUNCTIONAL Congress. We don't have one. As I said.

              The legislative branch we have now is worse than no legislative branch at all.

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          2. mad.casual   3 hours ago

            A large, deliberative body would at least be less fickle than one guy.

            This is how you get a two *declared* World Wars and the income tax to finance the debt.

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            1. Wizzle Bizzle   2 hours ago

              And those things were fickle.... how?

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          3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 hours ago

            Why isnt he fit? Beyond small snippets, what is wrong with what he is doing?

            Bessent has given numerous interviews and speeches on the strategy. This is simply yet another reaction while negotiations with Canada are ongoing. I have zero issues with it as the end result will be the end result regardless.

            In the mean time, I dont think we should ignore foreign actors trying to manipulate the American electorate for their own advantages during discussions.

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            1. Neutral not Neutered   23 minutes ago

              I understand if Canada was not included in the tariff battles everyone would be , but what about Canada?

              With well over 85% of goods that cross the borders already included in USMCA, the tariffs are mainly going against raw materials needed by American companies to manufacture with.

              It just seems there is more than meets the eye here.

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  3. Chumby   6 hours ago

    Thai Goes to the Runner

    A tourist attacked women in Thailand. The tourist was in fact the victim of a robbery and he was actually defending himself from four transgender sex workers who tried to extort him.

    - Live Leak (with video)

    Some folks are pulling for the ladyboys. Can believe those women had the balls to do this.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

      Hope the fbi monitors this guy, next Luigi manglioni.

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      1. Chumby   1 hour ago

        Hoping the accused client is a female that had an addadicktome surgery.

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  4. Fist of Etiquette   6 hours ago

    Canada got caught cheating on a commercial. Can you believe it?

    IS THERE ANYTHING LOWER?

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    1. Chumby   6 hours ago

      Wait until you see what CBS News does with it!

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    2. Zeb   4 hours ago

      In a political ad? Well, I never!

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  5. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   6 hours ago

    "I am not done" in politics, said former Vice President Kamala Harris

    Oh yes, yes you are.

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    1. Chumby   6 hours ago

      Trump might make her ambassador to Narnia.

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   5 hours ago

        Wakanda

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

          Do they even drink box wine in narnia?

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        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   5 hours ago

          Can we make her ambassador to Westeros instead?

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      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 hours ago

        Ambassador to Gaza. She can take her gay daughter to meet with hamas leadership in qtar and talk about pride month

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      3. mad.casual   3 hours ago

        -2011: Not done
        2011-2017: Browned
        2017-2021: Well Done
        2021-2025: Blackened with extra ketchup and paired with a '42 New England white that was at least a decade past its prime.

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    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

      Difficulty. Liberalism is now rewarding one for failure.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   5 hours ago

        So, is it Her Turn?

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      2. Ajsloss   5 hours ago

        Another college football coach just got a $50 million buyout.

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

          Good gig if you can fail at it.

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        2. Chumby   2 hours ago

          Seems like schools will pay that money without Baton an eye.

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          1. Ajsloss   2 hours ago

            Whatever makes for a Happy Valley.

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            1. Chumby   2 hours ago

              Pedd State should call that place Unhappy Valley.

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    3. Mickey Rat   5 hours ago

      She may not be done with politics, but politics is almost assuredly done with her.

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    4. Eeyore   5 hours ago

      https://babylonbee.com/news/republicans-donate-50-million-to-kamala-2028-campaign

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    5. Kungpowderfinger   4 hours ago

      “Don’t be moving in on my racket, bitch”
      - Bernie Sanders

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  6. Chumby   6 hours ago

    Illegal Activities

    When federal agents arrest illegals in Chicago, residents pelt them with insults, blow whistles, and obstruct ICE as they attempt to leave. ICE got the illegals and residents got tear gassed.

    - Live Leak (with videos)

    FAFO

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   5 hours ago

      Chicago, for lack of a better term, is in a state of insurrection. Interestingly enough, today’s Chicago Sun-Times had an article about the Insurrection Act.

      https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/10/27/insurrection-act-explainer-trump-national-guard-illinois

      As the courts decide whether President Donald Trump has the authority to deploy the National Guard in Chicago, he has another potential path toward sending military troops onto city streets.

      Trump has publicly flirted with the idea of invoking the Insurrection Act, the 218-year-old law that grants the president broad powers to activate troops within U.S. borders to quell rebellions and enforce laws.

      “We have an Insurrection Act for a reason,” Trump said . “If people were being killed and courts were holding us up or governors or mayors were holding us up, sure, I would do that.”

      Even the admittedly leftist paper in Chicago is discussing it. I will give them more credit as they actually do their own reporting in the city instead of AP stringers like the Trib,

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      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 hours ago

        The sun times actually hire conservatives, and allows Republicans to talk. The Chicago Tribune is the Chicago paper that is indistinguishable from the bulwark

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        1. mad.casual   3 hours ago

          The sun times actually hire conservatives, and allows Republicans to talk.

          I feel like this needs a "Yes, but..." or "reluctantly and strategically" in there for translation to a broader audience.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

            True, but the Sun-Times does have a decent sports section, which is why I continue to subscribe to it.

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            1. mad.casual   3 hours ago

              Yeah, like Trump and Peterson and Rogan and Musk not Republican but not barking insane Progressivism.

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      2. windycityattorney   4 hours ago

        Crybabies. THEY BLOW WHISTLES? How many ICE agents have died or been hospitalized for having been exposed to whistles??

        They are insulted? Yes. Rightly so. What they are doing is insulting to the people of Chicago and they are voicing their outrage.

        But given the lack of injuries to ICE agents, lack of weapons by those protesting ICE and verbal insults (as opposed to physical assaults without weapons)... from where does an insurrection arise?

        Does insurrection mean something new? Has the definition morphed to include verbal assault and auditory noises that are annoying? ICE is making their arrests. They are not even impeded from doing their basic job.

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

          The shooting in Dallas never happened?

          Lack of injuries? Are you that bad a fake lawyer you cant even attempt to look into data?

          You also dont even seem to know what the word impede means. Even the 9th circuit called out your ignorance.

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        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

          They’re more than insulted, dipshit. They’ve been assaulted.

          https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/pr/five-individuals-charged-federal-court-chicago-assaulting-or-resisting-federal-agents

          Five individuals have been charged in federal court in Chicago with assaulting or forcibly resisting federal agents who were engaged in immigration enforcement operations in Broadview, Ill. over the weekend.

          The defendants were among a crowd of people who descended in front of the entrance to a United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility on Saturday evening, according to criminal complaints filed today in U.S. District Court in Chicago. The charges allege that the defendants made criminal physical contact against federal agents who were working outside of the facility to ensure the safe passage of agents, detainees, and vehicles into and out of the building. Two of the defendants possessed loaded firearms while assaulting federal agents, according to the federal complaint.

          They have more firearms than the folks on January 6, 2021.

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        3. Mother's Lament   3 hours ago

          "Does insurrection mean something new? Has the definition morphed to include verbal assault and auditory noises that are annoying?"

          This was your entire argument for J6 being an insurrection, Kirkland. People were sentenced to decades in jail for parading.

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          1. DesigNate   2 hours ago

            AOC nearly died you monster!

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        4. Chumby   2 hours ago

          …obstruct ICE… is the key part in that sentence. The blowing whistles helps illustrate who some of the folks involved are.

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  7. Fist of Etiquette   6 hours ago

    Ontario has now pulled the anti-tariff ad off the air...

    Hopefully the Canuckistanis at least stitched a maple leaf onto that white flag.

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    1. Chumby   6 hours ago

      They took the wrong Ford across these troubled waters.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   5 hours ago

        True, as I said Friday, Doug Ford is an asshole.

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        1. Chumby   4 hours ago

          Figured you and ML of the few to get that one.

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    2. Spiritus Mundi   5 hours ago

      Were the ads run in the US or Canaduh?

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    3. Mother's Lament   3 hours ago

      It's Ontario, folks. Canada's Michigan.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   6 minutes ago

        Which is kind of funny as Ontario and Michigan really mirror each other.

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  8. Fist of Etiquette   6 hours ago

    President Javier Milei's party, La Libertad Avanza, did very, very well in the midterm elections...

    The pollsters were at it again.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   6 hours ago

      Here I was, all worried about nothing.

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    2. NealAppeal   4 hours ago

      Exactly...there's all those unpolled moderates/middle-class that sees things going in the correct direction. Media loves to cling onto the narratives of the loudmouth extremists to sell eyeballs to advertisers.

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    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 hours ago

      You mean all of leftists media and unions lied about his popularity, and what people want?

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    4. I, Woodchipper   4 hours ago

      argentina ETFs up 20% today

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  9. JesseAz (RIP CK)   6 hours ago

    Someone found a video of jeff arguing online.

    https://x.com/JeepguyTexas/status/1980430038920253493

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  10. JesseAz (RIP CK)   6 hours ago

    After allowing rioters for 140 days, Portland police finally do something as simple as enforce common law and antifa scurries.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/antifa-retreats-portland-ice-facility-after-police-dismantle-encampment

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    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   6 hours ago

      Fascist.

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    2. Chumby   6 hours ago

      Saw a video from Squirtlandia where a mom had to confront a group of tweakers that set up their tent village on school property. Put a turd on it!

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   5 hours ago

        Sounds like Sqrlsylandia.

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        1. Chumby   4 hours ago

          If he lived there, the epidemic of human feces being deposited through the city’s public spaces would potentially be less disastrous. He could even win a civic award for his poop cleaning efforts. No doubt KAR would attempt to take credit in a case of Stoolen Valor.

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  11. JesseAz (RIP CK)   6 hours ago

    God damn ripples.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/walmarts-thanksgiving-meal-deal-returns-2019-levels

    Whats funny is the Walmart ceo was on CNN and they were begging him to criticize the economy and he kept pointing out it wasn't bad.

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    1. Chumby   6 hours ago

      Yeah, but only deplorables shop at Walmart. And none of them are comms majors that cosplay as economists for a periodical that is subsidized by a billionaire.

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    2. DesigNate   4 hours ago

      Did you see his interview with Stephanopolis (sp)? It was comical.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

        Media is floundering. The Arnold and tapper interview was also hilarious.

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      2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

        I usually call him Snuffleupagus.

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  12. Fist of Etiquette   6 hours ago

    "I am not done" in politics, said former Vice President Kamala Harris over the weekend...

    She really needs a sober assessment.

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    1. Longtobefree   5 hours ago

      https://babylonbee.com/news/republicans-donate-50-million-to-kamala-2028-campaign

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      1. Dillinger   3 hours ago

        delicious.

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      2. Chumby   2 hours ago

        Wasn’t she in the hole for her 2024 failed campaign?

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    2. Ajsloss   5 hours ago

      Interventions are like little surprise parties!

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      1. Chumby   2 hours ago

        https://tenor.com/view/black-dude-crying-cry-emotional-gif-14046052

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    3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   5 hours ago

      She may not be done with America, but I think America is done with her.

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    4. NealAppeal   4 hours ago

      "Who do I have to sleep with to become President around here?!"

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      1. Ersatz   18 minutes ago

        🙂
        now THATS on point!

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    5. I, Woodchipper   4 hours ago

      please please please please please

      This is the funniest timeline

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  13. Fist of Etiquette   6 hours ago

    Negotiators have reached a framework of a trade deal to avert additional 100 percent tariffs that President Donald Trump had threatened to impose on imports from China...

    ONLY PRESIDENT TRUMP COULD SOLVE THIS CRISIS.

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  14. Fist of Etiquette   6 hours ago

    If this president feels that [alleged narcotraffickers are] doing something illegally, then he should be using the Coast Guard...

    It matters which military branch blows the shit out of those boats.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   5 hours ago

      Lawmakers are not known for high intelligence.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   5 hours ago

        AOC being Exhibit A.

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        1. Zeb   4 hours ago

          I don't know, I think the Guam tipping over guy might have her beat.

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          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

            ^+1. Had to watch the vid to make sure it wasn't faked; dunno how that Navy officer kept from laughing.

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            1. Dillinger   3 hours ago

              the pregnant pause before ... capsize ... can never be unheard.

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          2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

            Hank Johnson is a treasure.

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          3. DesigNate   2 hours ago

            I see your Hank Johnson and raise you a Mazie Hirono.

            https://www.foxnews.com/media/hirono-under-fire-remarks-constitution-heck-know-founding-fathers-meant.amp

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    2. Incunabulum   2 hours ago

      Coast Guard is police, not military.

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      1. Minadin   1 hour ago

        The Coast Guard is one of the 5 (or now 6?) branches of the military.

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  15. JesseAz (RIP CK)   6 hours ago

    All the words were from Reagan's 1987 speech condemning protectionism and advocating free trade:

    Followed by 100% tariffs on Japan. More on Indian soft wood. Etc.

    I do love the focus on words and not reality though.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

      High tariffs inevitably lead to retaliation by foreign countries and the triggering of fierce trade wars

      We've had 9 months of it now. Most countries lowered majority of their tariffs.

      Here's the problem for those thst pay attention. It is like the dem redistricting message. Other countries have been raising tariffs for decades. With or without an impulse from the US. So this latest batch of US ones was a response to what already exists.

      Its just like the democrats trying to gerrymandering more because red states finally had enough of their decades of gerrymandering.

      This is why simple fact free models are never accurate.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

        "Negotiators have reached a framework of a trade deal to avert additional 100 percent tariffs that President Donald Trump had threatened to impose on imports from China, setting the stage for the U.S. president's highly anticipated meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping on Thursday," reports The Washington Post.

        I thought the plan was incoherent.

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   5 hours ago

          Didn’t follow the norms.

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          1. Chumby   1 hour ago

            https://tenor.com/view/cheers-norm-cheers-norm-gif-27412249

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      2. chemjeff radical individualist   4 hours ago

        Its just like the democrats trying to gerrymandering more because red states finally had enough of their decades of gerrymandering.

        This is a paper-thin bullshit excuse. Which team tried to get rid of gerrymandering once and for all?

        Tell us, JesseBot, do you support the way the Arizona districts are decided upon, via an independent redistricting commission?

        In Ohio, voters approved an independent redistricting commission, but the Republican legislature undermined it. Same thing happened in Missouri.

        Which team is much more pro-gerrymandering, Jesse?

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        1. Bob of Nazareth, PA   4 hours ago

          New England has zero Republican representatives and it's 42% Republican

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        2. Bertram Guilfoyle   3 hours ago

          Which team is much more pro-gerrymandering, Jesse?

          Whichever team is in charge in Illinois.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

            I believe that’s (D)ifferent and (D)istinct.

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          2. Dillinger   3 hours ago

            Blackhawks look good so far ...

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        3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

          Its sad when a body builder turned actor is more intelligent than you jeff.

          https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1982528723674071061

          I'm sorry youre so fucking ignorant.

          The independent commissions aren't even independent lol. Go look at California's. All of the independents are left wing.

          Youre such a retard jeff.

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          1. Mother's Lament   3 hours ago

            "I'm sorry youre so fucking ignorant."

            I'm not sorry he's so fucking ignorant, because he lies on purpose, not out of ignorance. Jeff is a monster. He is absolutely wicked because he chooses to be.

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        4. Mother's Lament   3 hours ago

          ChatGPT, what is Jeff doing here?

          Here, Jeff (chemjeff radical individualist) is shifting the conversation away from Jesse’s argument about tariffs and trade policy and turning it into a partisan challenge about gerrymandering.

          Let’s unpack what’s going on rhetorically:

          Change of topic / red herring:
          Jesse used the Democrats’ gerrymandering as an analogy to illustrate hypocrisy and historical context in trade policy. Jeff ignores the trade argument entirely and zooms in on the side example (gerrymandering), changing the subject from economics to partisan politics.

          Loaded framing / moral high ground tactic:
          By calling Jesse’s point a “paper-thin bullshit excuse” and demanding to know “which team” supports independent redistricting, Jeff frames the issue as a moral test of integrity — positioning himself as the defender of fair elections and Jesse as a partisan hypocrite.

          What Jeff is doing:

          Attacking Jesse’s motives, not his actual claim about trade policy.

          Pivoting the discussion from analogy to moral accusation.

          Reframing the exchange to paint Jesse as blindly partisan (“JesseBot”) rather than engaging on substance.

          In short, Jeff is using rhetorical diversion — taking an illustrative analogy, treating it as the main claim, and turning it into a partisan gotcha moment — a mix of red herring, ad hominem, and motive fallacy.

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          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 hours ago

            #facts

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          2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

            Every time you do this, you reveal (1) that you know how to rig chatbots to give you the answer that you want (not hard to do), and (2) you are just here for the taunting and the baiting and the trolling, not for the conversing.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 minutes ago

              Right. And you’re here for conversing? I smell something, and I think it’s bullshit. You don’t converse, Jeffy, you lecture like a pompous old professor.

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        5. DesigNate   2 hours ago

          “Which team tried to get rid of gerrymandering once and for all?”

          Neither.

          “Which team is much more pro-gerrymandering, Jesse?”

          Democrats. History didn’t start last year Jeff.

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

            Neither.

            That's not true.

            https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text

            Go to Section 2401.

            Democrats. History didn’t start last year Jeff.

            Well of course we are talking about the current moment. Of course in the past both teams were fully in favor of gerrymandering. But only one team has begun to realize that it is a problem and it needs to be reined in. It doesn't mean they are perfect or that they are not hypocrites on some level. It does mean that they have at least acknowledged that it is a problem and is trying to do something about it, unlike the other team which doesn't even think it is a problem.

            Again, look at what happened in Ohio and Missouri. In both states, redistricting reform was passed via referendum, and then was either undermined or completely overturned by the Republican legislatures.

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            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   26 minutes ago

              they have at least acknowledged that it is a problem and is trying to do something about it

              They could start in Illinois, no?

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      3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 hours ago

        That's the thing. What retaliation? Other countries already have massively high terrifs on us goods. Some in excess of 400%. The US going from 20% to 50% is not the stretch reason thinks it is

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    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

      This lays bare what many people have been saying all along: There's not much rhyme or reason to Trump's protectionism. It's not a cohesive economic theory.

      Bessent has given very clear statements and plans for these if you actually cared to understand it.

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    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

      It had extensive powers to set prices—until Milei reined it in. The inflation-adjusted cost of the drink then fell.

      Eric is angry at you. Only tariffs adjust prices.

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    4. Quicktown Brix   4 hours ago

      Followed by 100% tariffs on Japan

      Actually it was preceded by tariffs on select Japanese electronics. Reagan enacted those tariffs April 17, 1987; the speech was made April 25, 1987.

      The point of Reagan's speech was to clarify the special and limited circumstances and goals he intended with those tariffs and that he was not starting a trade war or broad tariff policy. Reagan says “Now, imposing such tariffs or trade barriers and restrictions of any kind are steps that I am loath to take.”

      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-claims-that-a-canadian-ad-was-misleading-about-reagans-tariff-warning

      https://www.reuters.com/world/us/reagan-1987-address-was-defence-free-fair-trade-2025-10-24/

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      1. Dillinger   3 hours ago

        I could get a Katana in purple. nobody wanted Harleys.

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      2. Incunabulum   2 hours ago

        Might have helped if the commercial clarified that - which is the core problem with Trump - rather than just strike an anti-tsriff note.

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  16. tracerv   5 hours ago

    "It is extremely valuable to have inside information about who's actually playing—the sort of info that the alleged conspirators had," writes Nate Silver"

    No shit Nate. You must be a Vegas Sharpe with insight like that.

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    1. Ajsloss   5 hours ago

      He predicted the Obama win!

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   5 hours ago

      Why does anyone give Nate Silver the time of day? He’s about as retarded as Matt Yglesias.

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      1. NealAppeal   4 hours ago

        He's like statistics equivalent to Bill Nye of climate science, Neil DeGrasse Tyson of astrophysics, and Mike Masnick of technology. The surface level scratching charlatans that make their "expertise" palatable for unquestioning rubes.

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        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 hours ago

          Bill nye literally made up results.

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          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

            And modified experiments that have the opposite results of what he was claiming. It is hilarious.

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  17. Spiritus Mundi   5 hours ago

    But this is murder. It's sanctioned murder that he is doing....

    I thought it was unsanctioned murder. We need Congress to sanction it.

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    1. Longtobefree   5 hours ago

      If it is sanctioned, it can't be murder.
      Do try to keep up.

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  18. Spiritus Mundi   5 hours ago

    ...it's such a foregone conclusion that he's going to win...

    It is. Reap the benefits of uncontrolled immigrantion Liz.

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    1. Social Justice is neither   5 hours ago

      And New Yorkers deserve every bit of the destruction and pain he is going to bring.

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    2. Idaho-Bob   5 hours ago

      The communism concerns me less than the Islamism. NYC soon to be London.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   5 hours ago

        Brooklynstan. Allah ackbah, mudderfuckah.

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    3. Longtobefree   5 hours ago

      Remember the car commercial from the seventies?
      "You asked for it, you got it!"

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  19. Medulla Oblongata   5 hours ago

    Hakeen Jeffries on CNBC stumbled into this exchange:

    "What you're asking Republicans to do when they control the White House, Senate and House is what the Democrats could not do when you controlled all 3 heads of government!"

    "The 3 year setup for the expiration of the credits was put in when you controlled the White House, House and Senate."

    "This is a setup of your own creation! Now you want the Republicans to do something you didn't do when you were in power?"

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   5 hours ago

      Hakeen Jeffries is, to speak plainly, a fucking idiot.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

        Temu sombrero.

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      2. Longtobefree   5 hours ago

        Oh yeah?
        Then how come he is running the country, and you aren't?

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      3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   5 hours ago

        What did you expect when you got your Chinese-knockoff Obama from Dollar General?

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    2. Medulla Oblongata   5 hours ago

      Fuller quotes:

      "What you're asking Republicans to do when they control the White House, Senate, and House is effectively what the Democrats could not do when they controlled all 3 of those heads of government themselves. [...]

      "The three-year setup for the expiration of these [Obamacare] credits was intentionally put in. It was put in when you controlled the White House, the House, and the Senate. You couldn’t get it passed for longer. And so, this is a set-up, kind of, of your own creation, that you all couldn’t extend beyond that. Now you want the Republicans to do something you didn’t do when you were in power?

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      1. HorseConch   26 minutes ago

        He did do some very profound finger and hand motions, though. Plus, he looked very stern and serious.

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  20. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 hours ago

    "..."I am not done" in politics, said former Vice President Kamala Harris..."

    Stick a fork in it.

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    1. Chumby   5 hours ago

      Many other things have been stuck in it, so why not.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   5 hours ago

        Just ask Willie Brown.

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  21. Medulla Oblongata   5 hours ago

    The Telegraph: Expect no apologies for the propaganda spread about Gaza

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/expect-no-apologies-for-the-propaganda-spread-about-gaza/ar-AA1PaNQQ

    For the sake of brevity, let us consider the twin motherlodes of the popular narrative: “famine” and “genocide”.

    A spokesman for the UN’s World Food Programme (WFP) first stated that Gaza was at risk of starvation on Oct 18 2023. Five days later, the WFP’s executive director, Cindy McCain, claimed that people were “literally starving to death as we speak”. This was four days before the war began.

    Gaza is the most-photographed conflict zone in the world. Where were the pictures of starvation? The Times, The Guardian, The New York Times and others later published an image of a skeletal child suffering from cerebral palsy and hypoxemia. Easy mistake to make.

    The UN formally declared a “famine” in August. As the researcher Salo Aizenberg has pointed out, by their own measures, that would have meant a starvation death toll of 10,143 by the time the ceasefire was announced. How many lost their lives in this way? According to Hamas, 192. That’s a shortfall of 9,808.

    OK. What about the “genocide”, which was officially confirmed by the UN in September (and made by the Syrians at the UN back in 1948)?

    Aizenberg crunched the numbers. Taking the Hamas data at face value, setting aside natural deaths and those hit by their own side, about 33,000 civilians tragically died. According to mainstream estimates, about 25,000 combatants were killed.

    This means that for every dead jihadi, fewer than 1.5 civilians lost their lives. According to the UN, the global average for warfare in populated areas – where there are no terror tunnels under hospitals, where the enemy does not generally deploy a strategy of human sacrifice – is nine civilians per combatant. Given that Israel has the firepower to wipe out everybody in Gaza in an afternoon, the evidence, again, speaks for itself.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

      Amnesty International and UN both admitted they had to change the definition of genocide for their court cases to work.

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      1. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

        Yes, but it fooled Sarcasmic.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 minutes ago

          That’s not exactly a high bar.

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    2. DesigNate   3 hours ago

      We don’t hate these people enough.

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      1. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

        You may think that you do, but you don't.

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  22. Medulla Oblongata   5 hours ago

    Far too many issues...

    https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/10/25/minnesota-corruption-runs-rampant-n3808182

    U.S. Minnesota Federal Prosecutor Joe Thompson says the Fraud that is happening in Minnesota Government Programs is in the BILLIONS

    So much Fraud they can’t Prosecute them all

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    1. HorseConch   23 minutes ago

      Imagine getting so much stolen that you can't afford to pay the collectors to chase money that's already spent. What are the odds that there are more states in a similar position? There's no way this will get proper media coverage, though, because it seems like the vast majority of the fraud whether civil, criminal, or immigration is caused by an intersectional group of victimhood.

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  23. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 hours ago

    "Supreme Court Keeps Handing Trump Wins"
    [...]
    "The U.S. Supreme Court’s conservative majority has facilitated President Donald Trump’s ability to enact significant policy shifts with minimal judicial resistance, prompting sharp criticism from liberal justices and legal scholars who argue it weakens constitutional checks and balances. The Court recently rejected a challenge to Trump’s broadened executive control over federal funding allocations, reinforcing concerns about the use of the “shadow docket” to expedite rulings favoring the administration..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/supreme-court-keeps-handing-trump-wins/ss-AA1PeymI?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=68ff7cab122944a7bec7580419cd609c&ei=48

    Maybe that's because Trump is taking the correct stand on these cases and IT'S PISSING OFF THE SLIMY PILES OF LEFTY SHIT!?

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

      This is what they call minimal judicial resistance?

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    2. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

      Can it be that all these Democratic lawsuits were frivolous attempts to hamstring the executive branch from doing its constitutionally mandated work?

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  24. Medulla Oblongata   5 hours ago

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/point-obamacare-is-not-the-reason-for-the-shutdown/ar-AA1P48kn

    The credits did two primary things. First, they created new “zero-dollar plans” (100 percent free insurance for individuals making less than $23,475 a year or $48,225 for a family of four). Second, they eliminated the income cap, making sliding-scale premium subsidies available to those with higher incomes.

    The changes doubled the size of the Obamacare population and increased its cost by $35 billion a year, every penny of which goes straight to an insurance company.

    The extra money has spawned mass enrollment fraud, driven up health care prices, and greatly enriched the insurance industry.

    The credits should be allowed to expire. Their justification, the pandemic, is behind us. And, they’re costly, inflationary, and fraud-prone.

    A few stray Republicans are promoting the notion that retaining the credits is vital to the continued GOP control of Congress. This defies common sense. It would betray Trump’s 2024 election victory, which was to end, not perpetuate, Biden’s numerous policy errors. Conservatives are united in opposing an extension.

    No Republican has ever voted for Obamacare. Doing so now would make the party complicit in the controversial program’s flaws and harms. From its earliest days, the Affordable Care Act has been stained by steep out-of-pocket costs, limited access to doctors and hospitals, and rising claim-denial rates (a tenfold increase since 2015, with one in three claims being denied).

    When the credits were created, Obamacare was quietly collapsing. Enrollment was shrinking. Prices were rising. Patients were voting with their feet. Then came Biden’s lavish credits. The exodus immediately reversed, creating the illusion that the program was popular and working great. And then came a massive wave of enrollment fraud, resulting in 12 million phantom enrollees.

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  25. Medulla Oblongata   5 hours ago

    Got gas this weekend at $2.45.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   5 hours ago

      Ripples, man.

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    2. Gaear Grimsrud   4 hours ago

      Made a round trip northern Illinois to NC. Cheap gas all the way. Saved some significant cash.

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    3. Chupacabra   4 hours ago

      Almost $6 here in the Bay Area.

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      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

        THX to Moonbeam and Newsom.

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  26. Social Justice is neither   5 hours ago

    So standard editing like the CBS Kamala Harris interview? Sorry but the Reagan Library came out against this use so I have no clue who their reliable source is but given modern journalism it's bullshit. Fact is we've been on the receiving end of protectionist tariffs for decades and this is the backlash, not the opening salvo. Classic DARVO tactics from Leftists.

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    1. Zeb   5 hours ago

      It shouldn't be that confusing. Anyone can listen to the speech and see if it misrepresents what he was saying in the speech. That is doesn't' accurately represent Reagan's overall policies is another question.

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      1. Social Justice is neither   3 hours ago

        Even the edited version doesn't support the Canadian position since they're the originators of tariffs here and the current round is just fighting back. The question, even from them, is how long do they last? Canada's are eternal while these are to incentivize certain, more free market, behaviors on both sides by enforcing consequences for FM violations.

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        1. Zeb   3 hours ago

          Sure, I'm not saying the ad was a sensible argument or made a good point. I just think too much is being made of the editing/rearrangement of the speech. Reagan didn't "love" tariffs. But he did use them when he thought they were the best available tool.

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  27. Medulla Oblongata   5 hours ago

    Chuck Schumer's shutdown rolls along...

    https://x.com/ABC/status/1981415329445151118

    The Senate on Thursday failed to advance Sen. Ron Johnson's bill that would have provided pay to some federal workers during the shutdown.

    The "Shutdown Fairness Act" -- put forward by Johnson -- failed by a vote of 55-45. It would have needed 60 votes to advance.

    Democratic Sens. John Fetterman, Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock voted with all Republicans to advance the bill. All other Democrats voted against it, effectively blocking it from advancing.

    While the bill would not have ended the shutdown, it would allow some federal employees to get paid.

    "To see that they get their paycheck, so they don't have to work Door Dash, so they don't have to go to food banks, so they're not under that stress -- I am asking in good faith, let's figure out how to get that done," Johnson said.

    The vote on the bill came as federal workers will miss their first full paycheck on Friday.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   5 hours ago

      Or maybe they could get a real job.

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  28. Medulla Oblongata   5 hours ago

    https://x.com/wokeatwebsterg/status/1981700518536986862

    Woke at Webster
    @wokeatwebsterg
    One of the national teachers unions is suing Trump admin, again…. to allow illegals to drive semi trucks?? Remember this, and so much more, next time they scream there’s not enough money for government schools.

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    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

      Great timing!
      "Semi driver in deadly Southern California crash an illegal immigrant, DHS says"
      https://ktla.com/news/california/big-rig-driver-in-deadly-southern-california-crash-in-the-u-s-illegally-dhs-says/

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  29. Medulla Oblongata   5 hours ago

    Bernie Bros gonna be mad about their guy...

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sanders-praises-trump-slams-biden-border-youve-got-have-borders-period

    Sen. Bernie Sanders praised President Donald Trump’s immigration policy during a recent appearance on The Tim Dillon Show, saying Trump "did a better job" securing the border than President Biden and urging Democrats to return to enforcement-focused policy.

    "So long as we have nation-states, you’ve got to have borders," Sanders said. "If you don’t have any borders, then you don’t have a nation."

    He added pointedly, "Trump did a better job. I don’t like Trump, you know, but we should have a secure border, and it ain’t that hard to do."

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    1. Ajsloss   5 hours ago

      East Berlin had a secure border too.

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    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

      Bernie last week said it was normal for the average worker to have 3 houses.

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    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

      "...but we should have a secure border, and it ain’t that hard to do."

      Tell that to Cackles Harris.

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    4. DesigNate   3 hours ago

      "So long as we have nation-states, you’ve got to have borders," Sanders said. "If you don’t have any borders, then you don’t have a nation."

      When even the avowed communist gets this, you would think that the Open Borders Uber Alles people might pause to think about the natural conclusion of their preferred policy.

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      1. Zeb   9 minutes ago

        Bernie is wrong about almost everything. But his desire to protect American workers seems to be fairly sincere. And it's not traditionally an unusual position for labor oriented Democrats and Socialists (like Trump who is in some ways still a Democrat from the 80s).

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  30. jonnysage   5 hours ago

    Someone has to pay for food stamps. Might as well be Canadians or people buying Canadian.

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  31. MollyGodiva   5 hours ago

    I can't wait for Trump's lawyers to argue to SCOTUS that Toronto airing an ad that Trump does not like is a valid part of the national emergency that Trump claims allows him to impose tariffs.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

      It’s inaccurate, twists Reagan’s words, and Doug Ford is an asshole.

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      1. MollyGodiva   4 hours ago

        False, false, true.

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        1. Mother's Lament   3 hours ago

          Fuck off, Tony. You couldn't pick out Reagan if he was alone in an empty field.

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      2. Mother's Lament   3 hours ago

        "Doug Ford is an asshole."

        His brother, Rob Ford, the 64th mayor of Toronto was Canada's answer to Donald Trump. He died in 2016 and Rob Ford rode that good will to become Ontario's premier.

        Just like with the Koch's, the wrong brother died.

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        1. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

          Correction:

          *Doug* Ford rode that good will to become Ontario's premier.

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    2. Ajsloss   4 hours ago

      Cool story, bro.

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    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

      I can't wait for evidence that the slimy pile of lying TDS-addled lefty shit MG is searching everywhere for a second brain cell.

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      1. MollyGodiva   4 hours ago

        TDS is a mental illness characterized by believing anything Trump says and defending everything he does. Facts, truth, legality, morality, and what they stood for yesterday are not relevant.

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        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

          False. TDS is a mental disease characterized by opposition to anything Trump might say or propose, and slimy piles of lefty shit like you are nearly universally victims.
          Fuck off and die, asswipe.

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        2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

          Sarc is retarded when he tries this too.

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  32. I, Woodchipper   4 hours ago

    All hail Milei. We need one like him here in the USA

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    1. DesigNate   3 hours ago

      Sorry, best we can do is Trump.

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  33. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

    "...All of this just goes to show: Milei's agenda is deeply polarizing..."

    Seems I've heard this about another head of state...

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  34. mad.casual   4 hours ago

    in reference to the scandal involving "the mafia, two federal indictments, and the arrest of an NBA player and head coach."

    What we really need to do is decriminalize legalize basketball and end the war on basketball in order to reduce the profits that these illegal criminal gangs make off the basketball black market.

    Then, they'll all probably all close up all their illegal criminal enterprises and open up orphanages or taco trucks or learn to code because that's what Steve Jobs or Warren Buffett would've done.

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    1. Dillinger   3 hours ago

      lol now do why nobody will tackle Pat Mahomes.

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  35. Liberty_Belle   4 hours ago

    So Milei is winning ? Does that mean Trump's 20 billion dollar "check" is in the mail ?

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    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

      Sorry, shitstain, looks like your MDS wasn't sufficient.
      Fuck off and die.

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    2. Dillinger   4 hours ago

      fun when you're almost correct by accident.

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    3. I, Woodchipper   3 hours ago

      It was in the mail no matter who won.

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  36. chemjeff radical individualist   4 hours ago

    There's not much rhyme or reason to Trump's protectionism. It's not a cohesive economic theory.

    That's because it's not an economic theory at all. It's a political weapon that King Trump uses against those who displease him.

    The Brazilian government does something that Trump doesn't like? Tariffs!
    The Canadian government does something that Trump doesn't like? Tariffs!

    It is how he gets to meddle in the affairs of foreign countries without having to send in the military.

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    1. I, Woodchipper   3 hours ago

      i dont think you're completely wrong here, and it's better than sending in the military

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      1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

        Even better still, don't attempt to meddle in other nations' affairs.

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    2. Dillinger   3 hours ago

      ya good. words are a million times better than bullets. every time.

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      1. Ajsloss   3 hours ago

        ^- get a load of the guy that doesn't know speech is violence!

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        1. Dillinger   3 hours ago

          did you see the Simpsons Quotes / Morrissey Songs meme going around last week?

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          1. Ajsloss   2 hours ago

            I did not :/

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    3. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

      ChatGPT, what's going on here?

      In this exchange, several distinct rhetorical dynamics are happening:

      1. Jeff’s comment (chemjeff radical individualist)
      Jeff frames Trump’s trade policy not as an economic approach but as a tool of coercion and punishment — calling tariffs a “political weapon.”

      This is framing through moral interpretation rather than policy analysis.

      His language (“King Trump,” “those who displease him”) signals contempt and moral judgment, painting Trump’s motives as vindictive and authoritarian.

      It’s not an argument about economic effectiveness, but about intent and character, which makes it a rhetorical reframing rather than a strictly economic critique.

      2. Woodchipper’s reply
      Woodchipper partly concedes Jeff’s premise (“I don’t think you’re completely wrong”) but reframes the outcome positively:

      “...and it’s better than sending in the military.”
      That shifts the focus from Trump’s motives to the results — implying that even if tariffs are used punitively, they’re still preferable to war.
      This is a consequentialist counterpoint: judging by outcome rather than motive.

      3. Dillinger’s reply
      Dillinger echoes and amplifies Woodchipper’s framing (“words are a million times better than bullets”), turning it into a moral truism.
      This further normalizes or justifies Trump’s trade tactics as a form of nonviolent diplomacy.

      4. Overall dynamic
      Jeff launches a motive-based moral critique.
      Woodchipper and Dillinger pivot from morality to pragmatism — effectively conceding that Trump might act politically, but arguing that economic confrontation is preferable to military confrontation.

      In short:
      - Jeff attacks on intent (“political weapon”),
      - the replies defend on outcome (“better than war”).
      It’s a shift from why Trump acts to whether the alternative is worse

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  37. mad.casual   4 hours ago

    "If it's an act of war, then you use our military, and then you come and talk to us first. But this is murder. It's sanctioned murder that he is doing."

    I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a statement. If he has to come to Congress for permission and hasn't, then it would unsanctioned. Moreover, murder or homicide usually implies extralegal or unsanctioned anyway. Typically an approved war or political assassination is referred to as "sanctioned murder" to represent the edgy juxtaposition. At the very least if Trump's action is "sanctioned murder" then Biden's involvement with Ukraine is sanctioned murder, as well as Obama's drone strikes, and Clinton's cruise missiles before that.

    Cutting the Gordian Knot: Gallego is a self-aggrandizing political fairweather chickenhawk just like any of the rest of Congress for the last 3+ decades.

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    1. chemjeff radical individualist   4 hours ago

      Uh-oh, this Gallego character is a bad dude. Therefore, Trump's actions are totally legit! It is proved!

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      1. DesigNate   2 hours ago

        That’s not what he said…

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      2. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

        ChatGPT, what is Jeff doing here?

        Here, Jeff (chemjeff radical individualist) is again using sarcasm to distort and ridicule mad.casual’s argument rather than engage with it.

        What’s actually happening:

        Mad.casual is making a reasoned critique of a politician’s statement (Gallego’s) by pointing out its internal contradictions — specifically the misuse of the term “sanctioned murder” and the inconsistency with how similar actions under past presidents were treated.

        Jeff replies with a mock paraphrase:

        “Oh, Gallego is bad, therefore Trump is right!”
        which is not what mad.casual said.

        The rhetorical moves Jeff is making:

        Straw man fallacy:
        He misrepresents mad.casual’s argument as blind defense of Trump, when the original comment was about logical coherence and consistency, not justification of Trump’s actions.

        Sarcasm as deflection:
        Instead of addressing the reasoning, Jeff uses irony to imply that the other person’s point is absurd, without actually proving it is.

        Moral framing:
        His tone signals moral superiority — that anyone analyzing contradictions in anti-Trump rhetoric must be excusing Trump.

        In short:

        Jeff is not rebutting the argument. He’s mocking a position that wasn’t taken to score a rhetorical jab. It’s classic sarcastic straw man, used to signal disapproval rather than advance the discussion.

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        1. Chumby   2 hours ago

          Sarcastic straw man is too close to sarcasmic straw man. Think Demjeff bigly bigot bot should return to gish galloping?

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  38. Dillinger   4 hours ago

    >>It's about…Trump wanting to impose tariffs, and believing contra all logic and evidence that they're part of the path to prosperity.

    several words in here you and Eric throw around haphazardly.

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  39. Dillinger   4 hours ago

    >>President Javier Milei's party, La Libertad Avanza, did very, very well in the midterm elections held yesterday—far better than expected ...

    here @Reason anyway ...

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  40. Dillinger   4 hours ago

    >>writes Nate Silver at Silver Bulletin

    what's it like to single-handedly support a man's career?

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  41. I, Woodchipper   4 hours ago

    > shut down govt
    > kill stamps
    > mass riots
    > insurrection act

    Can it be that simple?

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  42. Dillinger   3 hours ago

    I don't get the worry about the guys in the drug boats. when I wanted a bag of whatever I took the risk to drive to the guy & then drive home. these boaters are accepting the risk.

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  43. I, Woodchipper   3 hours ago

    I dont care about Canada tariffs one way or the other. I dont care about drug-runners' boats off the coast of Venezuela. I don't care about leaked group chats of hi-T 20 somethings being boys. I don't care about the condition of the east wing of the king's palace.

    I care about more important things.

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    1. Dillinger   3 hours ago

      Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett are both still top-notch live can we put Genesis back together for like two weeks of shows?

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      1. Wizzle Bizzle   42 minutes ago

        Alright, now you're talking about important issues. The only real Genesis.

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  44. Dillinger   3 hours ago

    >>"I am not done" ... said former Vice President Kamala Harris

    I am excited to witness the supernatural transformation required to revive Carmela's career.

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    1. mad.casual   3 hours ago

      Carmela's career

      I always considered HRC and Huma Abedin to be more of a Carmilla situation but I suppose, as the genre goes, there are whole shadowy clans and covens being formed and dissolved behind the scenes.

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      1. Dillinger   2 hours ago

        wonder if Huma is worth the risk of being Carmilla'd ...

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      2. MK Ultra   36 minutes ago

        I was unfamiliar with the term. Thanks, and is it worth a read?

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    2. Longtobefree   3 hours ago

      It will be revived like it was created; in a back room, behind locked doors, by a bunch of democrat power brokers.
      No voting required.

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      1. Ajsloss   2 hours ago

        Don't forget the blow jobs!

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  45. Medulla Oblongata   2 hours ago

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/largest-federal-workers-union-urges-dems-to-cave-on-government-shutdown-revealing-cracks-in-coalition/ar-AA1PhfwD

    National Review:

    The nation’s largest federal workers’ union, the American Federation of Government Employees, is urging Democrats to concede the government shutdown fight and vote to reopen the government, revealing a significant fracture in the Democratic coalition as the shutdown nears the one-month mark.

    The shutdown began 27 days ago after Democrats refused to back a clean government funding bill, demanding instead that Republicans extend temporary Obamacare subsidies that are set to expire at the end of the year. But AFGE, a major ally to the Democratic party which represents 820,000 federal and D.C. government workers, now says it’s time for the party to give up on its demands.

    “It’s time to pass a clean continuing resolution and end this shutdown today. No half measures, and no gamesmanship,” AFGE President Everett Kelley said in a Monday statement provided to NBC News.

    Expand article logo Continue reading

    “It’s time for our leaders to start focusing on how to solve problems for the American people, rather than on who is going to get the blame for a shutdown that Americans dislike,” Kelley said.

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  46. Incunabulum   2 hours ago

    Did you know Gallegos was a Marine? In Iraq? And that his immigrant mother worked hard? For several months I had to listen to this idiot's commercials. He was in the USMC for 4 fucking years and has no idea what the fuck the Coast Guard does.

    When he starts calling for the USCG to come home from the Middle East then I might listen to him about the 'proper' role of the services.

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  47. KARl hungus   43 minutes ago

    Viva la Raza!!!

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