'Fraudulent' Use of Reagan
Plus: Argentine election results, whether Zohran's running mostly on economic issues, and more...
Don't piss Trump off: On Saturday, President Donald Trump announced an additional 10 percent tariff on all goods imported from Canada because he was angry about the "fraudulent" use of Ronald Reagan's words in an anti-tariff ad produced by the province of Ontario.
Trump: "They cheated on a commercial. Ronald Reagan loved tariffs and they said he didn't. And I guess it was AI or something. They cheated badly. Canada got caught cheating on a commercial. Can you believe it?" pic.twitter.com/3EzUEsDbxW
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 25, 2025
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The commercial in fact used very standard editing, with nothing deceptive that distorted the meaning. All the words were from Reagan's 1987 speech condemning protectionism and advocating free trade:
When someone says, 'Let's impose tariffs on foreign imports,' it looks like they're doing the patriotic thing by protecting American products and jobs. And sometimes for a short while it works—but only for a short time….High tariffs inevitably lead to retaliation by foreign countries and the triggering of fierce trade wars….Then the worst happens: Markets shrink and collapse; businesses and industries shut down; and millions of people lose their jobs.
Throughout the world there's a growing realization that the way to prosperity for all nations is rejecting protectionist legislation and promoting fair and free competition. America's jobs and growth are at stake.
Ontario has now pulled the anti-tariff ad off the air, which strikes me as an odd decision. The damage has already been done, and what's the point in kowtowing? Do they believe he'll keep ratcheting the tariffs up the longer it stays on?
This lays bare what many people have been saying all along: There's not much rhyme or reason to Trump's protectionism. It's not a cohesive economic theory. It's not about shoring up critical American defense capabilities or supply-chain sturdiness in the event of war. It's not about revitalization of the hollowed-out Rust Belt. It's not about trying to get revenue so taxes can be cut (or so the federal government can work its way out of the debt hole). It's about…Trump wanting to impose tariffs, and believing contra all logic and evidence that they're part of the path to prosperity.
Argentina's election: The results are in. President Javier Milei's party, La Libertad Avanza, did very, very well in the midterm elections held yesterday—far better than expected, receiving more than 40 percent of the vote.
The election was widely viewed as a referendum on his progress so far. Argentine voters were deciding whether they wanted to stay the course despite the short-term pain caused by some of the president's attempts to curb inflation and excess government spending.
Consider Bloomberg's illustrative piece on yerba mate, a popular caffeinated Argentine drink (that I happen to drink a lot of). There was a national yerba mate regulatory body, called INYM, created in 2002 in response to a short period of deregulation in which planting limits had been repealed and oversupply had driven prices down, pissing off farmers. It had extensive powers to set prices—until Milei reined it in. The inflation-adjusted cost of the drink then fell.
Now—just like in the early '00s—there's been a political backlash from the growers themselves. The courts have also tried to block Milei's deregulation, but he found a workaround: INYM can't set price controls until its officials are appointed by the federal government, so the federal government is simply choosing not to do so.
Milei is making the correct and prudent long-term decisions, yet it looked for a moment there like he was in danger of facing terrible short-term political consequences for these policies: In Misiones, where Bloomberg interviewed growers, three congressional seats were contested. (His party ended up doing well there, though not as well as it performed nationally.)
All of this just goes to show: Milei's agenda is deeply polarizing.
"A big question in these midterms is whether the voters in traditionally Peronist provinces that swung to Milei two years ago would stay with him," notes Bloomberg. "At Argentina's border, the strong peso and Bolivia's weak currency are fueling a contraband boom in a province that shifted toward Milei in the presidential race. Voters in Salta overwhelmingly elected Milei two years ago, but as businesses close or struggle to compete with half-price products flowing over the border, frustrated voters, including Milei's own supporters, say the illicit trade has never been this bad." (La Libertad Avanza still performed well in Salta.)
Scenes from New York: I agree completely, and also find it somewhat sad that we're already doing the "what worked/what didn't" postgame, since it's such a foregone conclusion that he's going to win.
This entire idea that Zohran ran an economics-centered campaign is a lie cooked up by his last few weeks dodging everything else he's ever said combined with a part of the right who wants to use him as part of their populist economics minus woke thesis. He has placed identity and… https://t.co/lydXY22Qzj
— Inez Stepman ⚪️????⚪️ (@InezFeltscher) October 26, 2025
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- "Negotiators have reached a framework of a trade deal to avert additional 100 percent tariffs that President Donald Trump had threatened to impose on imports from China, setting the stage for the U.S. president's highly anticipated meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping on Thursday," reports The Washington Post.
- "When betting the NBA, a difference of a single point—say, Vegas has the Miami Heat favored by 3 points, but you think they should be favored by 4—is enough to turn a losing bet into a winning one, or vice versa. But the availability or lack thereof of a LeBron, a Steph, or a Jokic can shift the point spread by 6 points, 8 points, or even more. It is extremely valuable to have inside information about who's actually playing—the sort of info that the alleged conspirators had," writes Nate Silver at Silver Bulletin, in reference to the scandal involving "the mafia, two federal indictments, and the arrest of an NBA player and head coach."
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France, 26/10/25. Antifas attacked a memorial for Lola (12yr old girl murdered by Algerian migrant) but students beat them and the antifas ran away.
- Live Leak (yup, video there)
I wonder if Lola debated middle school students.
Retaliatory violence is the only solution.
I say we run bounties on the characters. $100 for beating a Pikachu. $75 for Sonic.
What about the frog? Talking about the costume and not the French.
Not gonna lie, you had me in the first half.
I thought pepe was alt right now.
Saw him at one of the organized idea gatherings. He got pepper sprayed.
These puns wont have the legs to continue.
Think they will croak?
I toad you no more puns.
Then hop to it.
Some folks like puns, some don’t, and others are amphibuous about them.
Wait, is Idaho Bob advocating for violence against political foes? I thought only the left did that!
He’s discussing retaliation which is valid as one side, the other side, has already violated the NAP.
"DeFeNdInG YoUrSeLf oR fiGhTiNG bAcK iS aDvoCaTinG viOleNcE"
If you keep killing people you may find that it might not always be easy.
His streak of completely misrepresenting what people post (as though the rest of us can’t see the word “retaliatory”) remains unbroken.
I was referring to the "bounty" portion of the comment.
The bounties on video game characters?
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Still my new favorite.
Antifa was founded by German Communists.
...President Donald Trump announced an additional 10 percent tariff on all goods imported from Canada because he was angry about the "fraudulent" use of Ronald Reagan's words in an anti-tariff ad produced by the province of Ontario.
I miss the good old days when people fought over the right to invoke MLK.
Thanks to wokeism is now segregated to the dust bins of history.
"I have a dream that my four little children (tied up in my basement) will one day live in a nation where they will be judged by the color of their skin not by the content of their character" - Martin Luther Chemjeff
I miss the gold old days when the free market crowd was against tariffs. (At least rhetorically.) I'm glad Liz gets it.
*This lays bare what many people have been saying all along: There's not much rhyme or reason to Trump's protectionism. It's not a cohesive economic theory. It's not about shoring up critical American defense capabilities or supply-chain sturdiness in the event of war. It's not about revitalization of the hollowed-out Rust Belt. It's not about trying to get revenue so taxes can be cut (or so the federal government can work its way out of the debt hole). It's about…Trump wanting to impose tariffs, and believing contra all logic and evidence that they're part of the path to prosperity.*
I miss the gold old days when the free market crowd was against tariffs.
*The* Classical Liberals that founded the country, the same one's that did so by throwing the EIC's tea into the harbor to protest The King, did so primarily through tariffs.
If you want to talk about "borders are just a figment of imagination", then IP is an effective borderless *embargo* enacted by a government on *thoughts*.
The globohomo order is staked on MMT as birthed by Keynesian economics. The notion that ill-gotten goods should be economically disincentivized is far more libertarian and Austrian school than the status quo by leaps and bounds. A *glance* at the lockdowns, bailouts, and international banking and trade regulations should make it abundantly clear that anyone who thinks tariffs are *the* economic and/or cultural evil we face today is a retard.
So tariffs can't also be bad? Particularly when they're implemented with no grand strategy by a single politician who is, at best, erratic?
Criticizing something that is an obvious clusterfuck doesn't make it "*the* economic and/or cultural evil we face today."
seems foolish to call something an obvious clusterfuck before the moms even hand out orange slices and the goalies are switched out.
Particularly when they're implemented with no grand strategy by a single politician who is, at best, erratic?
Libertarians for 5 yr. plans?
He's cut and cut and cut and we're currently in a shutdown. The previous administration appears to have run effectively on autopilot with favorable media coverage. I don't know what your expectations are or were, but even for perfection they seem unrealistic.
Allowing one side in a market to have increased powers or ability to manipulate a market is in fact bad.
This is why we dont pretend to act as if a system is ideal. Redundancy is built into systems for a reason.
The one sided free market is like letting only criminals have guns.
The good old days where people lied about tariffs screaming free market despite the presence of tariffs globally?
There has never been a zero tariff market. Ever.
Generally when people scream no tariffs they just mean none for the US. But this creates market advantages and manipulations controlled by foreign actors. This has been discussed for centuries.
100%. We've been the world's bitch for generations. It's why many of us gave him a lot of rope to play this out. But every time he does something like this, it becomes increasingly clear he is not fit to wield this power.
Pity we don't have a functional Congress anymore. A large, deliberative body would at least be less fickle than one guy.
Would it really? They closed down the government because they want to extend temporary subsidies that expired.
A FUNCTIONAL Congress. We don't have one. As I said.
The legislative branch we have now is worse than no legislative branch at all.
A large, deliberative body would at least be less fickle than one guy.
This is how you get a two *declared* World Wars and the income tax to finance the debt.
And those things were fickle.... how?
Why isnt he fit? Beyond small snippets, what is wrong with what he is doing?
Bessent has given numerous interviews and speeches on the strategy. This is simply yet another reaction while negotiations with Canada are ongoing. I have zero issues with it as the end result will be the end result regardless.
In the mean time, I dont think we should ignore foreign actors trying to manipulate the American electorate for their own advantages during discussions.
I understand if Canada was not included in the tariff battles everyone would be , but what about Canada?
With well over 85% of goods that cross the borders already included in USMCA, the tariffs are mainly going against raw materials needed by American companies to manufacture with.
It just seems there is more than meets the eye here.
Thai Goes to the Runner
A tourist attacked women in Thailand. The tourist was in fact the victim of a robbery and he was actually defending himself from four transgender sex workers who tried to extort him.
- Live Leak (with video)
Some folks are pulling for the ladyboys. Can believe those women had the balls to do this.
Hope the fbi monitors this guy, next Luigi manglioni.
Hoping the accused client is a female that had an addadicktome surgery.
Canada got caught cheating on a commercial. Can you believe it?
IS THERE ANYTHING LOWER?
Wait until you see what CBS News does with it!
In a political ad? Well, I never!
"I am not done" in politics, said former Vice President Kamala Harris
Oh yes, yes you are.
Trump might make her ambassador to Narnia.
Wakanda
Do they even drink box wine in narnia?
Can we make her ambassador to Westeros instead?
Ambassador to Gaza. She can take her gay daughter to meet with hamas leadership in qtar and talk about pride month
-2011: Not done
2011-2017: Browned
2017-2021: Well Done
2021-2025: Blackened with extra ketchup and paired with a '42 New England white that was at least a decade past its prime.
Difficulty. Liberalism is now rewarding one for failure.
So, is it Her Turn?
Another college football coach just got a $50 million buyout.
Good gig if you can fail at it.
Seems like schools will pay that money without Baton an eye.
Whatever makes for a Happy Valley.
Pedd State should call that place Unhappy Valley.
She may not be done with politics, but politics is almost assuredly done with her.
https://babylonbee.com/news/republicans-donate-50-million-to-kamala-2028-campaign
“Don’t be moving in on my racket, bitch”
- Bernie Sanders
Illegal Activities
When federal agents arrest illegals in Chicago, residents pelt them with insults, blow whistles, and obstruct ICE as they attempt to leave. ICE got the illegals and residents got tear gassed.
- Live Leak (with videos)
FAFO
Chicago, for lack of a better term, is in a state of insurrection. Interestingly enough, today’s Chicago Sun-Times had an article about the Insurrection Act.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/10/27/insurrection-act-explainer-trump-national-guard-illinois
Even the admittedly leftist paper in Chicago is discussing it. I will give them more credit as they actually do their own reporting in the city instead of AP stringers like the Trib,
The sun times actually hire conservatives, and allows Republicans to talk. The Chicago Tribune is the Chicago paper that is indistinguishable from the bulwark
The sun times actually hire conservatives, and allows Republicans to talk.
I feel like this needs a "Yes, but..." or "reluctantly and strategically" in there for translation to a broader audience.
True, but the Sun-Times does have a decent sports section, which is why I continue to subscribe to it.
Yeah, like Trump and Peterson and Rogan and Musk not Republican but not barking insane Progressivism.
Crybabies. THEY BLOW WHISTLES? How many ICE agents have died or been hospitalized for having been exposed to whistles??
They are insulted? Yes. Rightly so. What they are doing is insulting to the people of Chicago and they are voicing their outrage.
But given the lack of injuries to ICE agents, lack of weapons by those protesting ICE and verbal insults (as opposed to physical assaults without weapons)... from where does an insurrection arise?
Does insurrection mean something new? Has the definition morphed to include verbal assault and auditory noises that are annoying? ICE is making their arrests. They are not even impeded from doing their basic job.
The shooting in Dallas never happened?
Lack of injuries? Are you that bad a fake lawyer you cant even attempt to look into data?
You also dont even seem to know what the word impede means. Even the 9th circuit called out your ignorance.
They’re more than insulted, dipshit. They’ve been assaulted.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/pr/five-individuals-charged-federal-court-chicago-assaulting-or-resisting-federal-agents
They have more firearms than the folks on January 6, 2021.
"Does insurrection mean something new? Has the definition morphed to include verbal assault and auditory noises that are annoying?"
This was your entire argument for J6 being an insurrection, Kirkland. People were sentenced to decades in jail for parading.
AOC nearly died you monster!
…obstruct ICE… is the key part in that sentence. The blowing whistles helps illustrate who some of the folks involved are.
Ontario has now pulled the anti-tariff ad off the air...
Hopefully the Canuckistanis at least stitched a maple leaf onto that white flag.
They took the wrong Ford across these troubled waters.
True, as I said Friday, Doug Ford is an asshole.
Figured you and ML of the few to get that one.
Were the ads run in the US or Canaduh?
It's Ontario, folks. Canada's Michigan.
Which is kind of funny as Ontario and Michigan really mirror each other.
President Javier Milei's party, La Libertad Avanza, did very, very well in the midterm elections...
The pollsters were at it again.
Here I was, all worried about nothing.
Exactly...there's all those unpolled moderates/middle-class that sees things going in the correct direction. Media loves to cling onto the narratives of the loudmouth extremists to sell eyeballs to advertisers.
You mean all of leftists media and unions lied about his popularity, and what people want?
argentina ETFs up 20% today
Someone found a video of jeff arguing online.
https://x.com/JeepguyTexas/status/1980430038920253493
After allowing rioters for 140 days, Portland police finally do something as simple as enforce common law and antifa scurries.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/antifa-retreats-portland-ice-facility-after-police-dismantle-encampment
Fascist.
Saw a video from Squirtlandia where a mom had to confront a group of tweakers that set up their tent village on school property. Put a turd on it!
Sounds like Sqrlsylandia.
If he lived there, the epidemic of human feces being deposited through the city’s public spaces would potentially be less disastrous. He could even win a civic award for his poop cleaning efforts. No doubt KAR would attempt to take credit in a case of Stoolen Valor.
God damn ripples.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/walmarts-thanksgiving-meal-deal-returns-2019-levels
Whats funny is the Walmart ceo was on CNN and they were begging him to criticize the economy and he kept pointing out it wasn't bad.
Yeah, but only deplorables shop at Walmart. And none of them are comms majors that cosplay as economists for a periodical that is subsidized by a billionaire.
Did you see his interview with Stephanopolis (sp)? It was comical.
Media is floundering. The Arnold and tapper interview was also hilarious.
I usually call him Snuffleupagus.
"I am not done" in politics, said former Vice President Kamala Harris over the weekend...
She really needs a sober assessment.
https://babylonbee.com/news/republicans-donate-50-million-to-kamala-2028-campaign
delicious.
Wasn’t she in the hole for her 2024 failed campaign?
Interventions are like little surprise parties!
https://tenor.com/view/black-dude-crying-cry-emotional-gif-14046052
She may not be done with America, but I think America is done with her.
"Who do I have to sleep with to become President around here?!"
🙂
now THATS on point!
please please please please please
This is the funniest timeline
Negotiators have reached a framework of a trade deal to avert additional 100 percent tariffs that President Donald Trump had threatened to impose on imports from China...
ONLY PRESIDENT TRUMP COULD SOLVE THIS CRISIS.
If this president feels that [alleged narcotraffickers are] doing something illegally, then he should be using the Coast Guard...
It matters which military branch blows the shit out of those boats.
Lawmakers are not known for high intelligence.
AOC being Exhibit A.
I don't know, I think the Guam tipping over guy might have her beat.
^+1. Had to watch the vid to make sure it wasn't faked; dunno how that Navy officer kept from laughing.
the pregnant pause before ... capsize ... can never be unheard.
Hank Johnson is a treasure.
I see your Hank Johnson and raise you a Mazie Hirono.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/hirono-under-fire-remarks-constitution-heck-know-founding-fathers-meant.amp
Coast Guard is police, not military.
The Coast Guard is one of the 5 (or now 6?) branches of the military.
All the words were from Reagan's 1987 speech condemning protectionism and advocating free trade:
Followed by 100% tariffs on Japan. More on Indian soft wood. Etc.
I do love the focus on words and not reality though.
High tariffs inevitably lead to retaliation by foreign countries and the triggering of fierce trade wars
We've had 9 months of it now. Most countries lowered majority of their tariffs.
Here's the problem for those thst pay attention. It is like the dem redistricting message. Other countries have been raising tariffs for decades. With or without an impulse from the US. So this latest batch of US ones was a response to what already exists.
Its just like the democrats trying to gerrymandering more because red states finally had enough of their decades of gerrymandering.
This is why simple fact free models are never accurate.
"Negotiators have reached a framework of a trade deal to avert additional 100 percent tariffs that President Donald Trump had threatened to impose on imports from China, setting the stage for the U.S. president's highly anticipated meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping on Thursday," reports The Washington Post.
I thought the plan was incoherent.
Didn’t follow the norms.
https://tenor.com/view/cheers-norm-cheers-norm-gif-27412249
Its just like the democrats trying to gerrymandering more because red states finally had enough of their decades of gerrymandering.
This is a paper-thin bullshit excuse. Which team tried to get rid of gerrymandering once and for all?
Tell us, JesseBot, do you support the way the Arizona districts are decided upon, via an independent redistricting commission?
In Ohio, voters approved an independent redistricting commission, but the Republican legislature undermined it. Same thing happened in Missouri.
Which team is much more pro-gerrymandering, Jesse?
New England has zero Republican representatives and it's 42% Republican
Which team is much more pro-gerrymandering, Jesse?
Whichever team is in charge in Illinois.
I believe that’s (D)ifferent and (D)istinct.
Blackhawks look good so far ...
Its sad when a body builder turned actor is more intelligent than you jeff.
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1982528723674071061
I'm sorry youre so fucking ignorant.
The independent commissions aren't even independent lol. Go look at California's. All of the independents are left wing.
Youre such a retard jeff.
"I'm sorry youre so fucking ignorant."
I'm not sorry he's so fucking ignorant, because he lies on purpose, not out of ignorance. Jeff is a monster. He is absolutely wicked because he chooses to be.
ChatGPT, what is Jeff doing here?
Here, Jeff (chemjeff radical individualist) is shifting the conversation away from Jesse’s argument about tariffs and trade policy and turning it into a partisan challenge about gerrymandering.
Let’s unpack what’s going on rhetorically:
Change of topic / red herring:
Jesse used the Democrats’ gerrymandering as an analogy to illustrate hypocrisy and historical context in trade policy. Jeff ignores the trade argument entirely and zooms in on the side example (gerrymandering), changing the subject from economics to partisan politics.
Loaded framing / moral high ground tactic:
By calling Jesse’s point a “paper-thin bullshit excuse” and demanding to know “which team” supports independent redistricting, Jeff frames the issue as a moral test of integrity — positioning himself as the defender of fair elections and Jesse as a partisan hypocrite.
What Jeff is doing:
Attacking Jesse’s motives, not his actual claim about trade policy.
Pivoting the discussion from analogy to moral accusation.
Reframing the exchange to paint Jesse as blindly partisan (“JesseBot”) rather than engaging on substance.
In short, Jeff is using rhetorical diversion — taking an illustrative analogy, treating it as the main claim, and turning it into a partisan gotcha moment — a mix of red herring, ad hominem, and motive fallacy.
#facts
Every time you do this, you reveal (1) that you know how to rig chatbots to give you the answer that you want (not hard to do), and (2) you are just here for the taunting and the baiting and the trolling, not for the conversing.
Right. And you’re here for conversing? I smell something, and I think it’s bullshit. You don’t converse, Jeffy, you lecture like a pompous old professor.
“Which team tried to get rid of gerrymandering once and for all?”
Neither.
“Which team is much more pro-gerrymandering, Jesse?”
Democrats. History didn’t start last year Jeff.
Neither.
That's not true.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text
Go to Section 2401.
Democrats. History didn’t start last year Jeff.
Well of course we are talking about the current moment. Of course in the past both teams were fully in favor of gerrymandering. But only one team has begun to realize that it is a problem and it needs to be reined in. It doesn't mean they are perfect or that they are not hypocrites on some level. It does mean that they have at least acknowledged that it is a problem and is trying to do something about it, unlike the other team which doesn't even think it is a problem.
Again, look at what happened in Ohio and Missouri. In both states, redistricting reform was passed via referendum, and then was either undermined or completely overturned by the Republican legislatures.
they have at least acknowledged that it is a problem and is trying to do something about it
They could start in Illinois, no?
That's the thing. What retaliation? Other countries already have massively high terrifs on us goods. Some in excess of 400%. The US going from 20% to 50% is not the stretch reason thinks it is
This lays bare what many people have been saying all along: There's not much rhyme or reason to Trump's protectionism. It's not a cohesive economic theory.
Bessent has given very clear statements and plans for these if you actually cared to understand it.
It had extensive powers to set prices—until Milei reined it in. The inflation-adjusted cost of the drink then fell.
Eric is angry at you. Only tariffs adjust prices.
Followed by 100% tariffs on Japan
Actually it was preceded by tariffs on select Japanese electronics. Reagan enacted those tariffs April 17, 1987; the speech was made April 25, 1987.
The point of Reagan's speech was to clarify the special and limited circumstances and goals he intended with those tariffs and that he was not starting a trade war or broad tariff policy. Reagan says “Now, imposing such tariffs or trade barriers and restrictions of any kind are steps that I am loath to take.”
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-claims-that-a-canadian-ad-was-misleading-about-reagans-tariff-warning
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/reagan-1987-address-was-defence-free-fair-trade-2025-10-24/
I could get a Katana in purple. nobody wanted Harleys.
Might have helped if the commercial clarified that - which is the core problem with Trump - rather than just strike an anti-tsriff note.
"It is extremely valuable to have inside information about who's actually playing—the sort of info that the alleged conspirators had," writes Nate Silver"
No shit Nate. You must be a Vegas Sharpe with insight like that.
He predicted the Obama win!
Why does anyone give Nate Silver the time of day? He’s about as retarded as Matt Yglesias.
He's like statistics equivalent to Bill Nye of climate science, Neil DeGrasse Tyson of astrophysics, and Mike Masnick of technology. The surface level scratching charlatans that make their "expertise" palatable for unquestioning rubes.
Bill nye literally made up results.
And modified experiments that have the opposite results of what he was claiming. It is hilarious.
But this is murder. It's sanctioned murder that he is doing....
I thought it was unsanctioned murder. We need Congress to sanction it.
If it is sanctioned, it can't be murder.
Do try to keep up.
...it's such a foregone conclusion that he's going to win...
It is. Reap the benefits of uncontrolled immigrantion Liz.
And New Yorkers deserve every bit of the destruction and pain he is going to bring.
The communism concerns me less than the Islamism. NYC soon to be London.
Brooklynstan. Allah ackbah, mudderfuckah.
Remember the car commercial from the seventies?
"You asked for it, you got it!"
Hakeen Jeffries on CNBC stumbled into this exchange:
"What you're asking Republicans to do when they control the White House, Senate and House is what the Democrats could not do when you controlled all 3 heads of government!"
"The 3 year setup for the expiration of the credits was put in when you controlled the White House, House and Senate."
"This is a setup of your own creation! Now you want the Republicans to do something you didn't do when you were in power?"
Hakeen Jeffries is, to speak plainly, a fucking idiot.
Temu sombrero.
Oh yeah?
Then how come he is running the country, and you aren't?
What did you expect when you got your Chinese-knockoff Obama from Dollar General?
Fuller quotes:
"What you're asking Republicans to do when they control the White House, Senate, and House is effectively what the Democrats could not do when they controlled all 3 of those heads of government themselves. [...]
"The three-year setup for the expiration of these [Obamacare] credits was intentionally put in. It was put in when you controlled the White House, the House, and the Senate. You couldn’t get it passed for longer. And so, this is a set-up, kind of, of your own creation, that you all couldn’t extend beyond that. Now you want the Republicans to do something you didn’t do when you were in power?
He did do some very profound finger and hand motions, though. Plus, he looked very stern and serious.
"..."I am not done" in politics, said former Vice President Kamala Harris..."
Stick a fork in it.
Many other things have been stuck in it, so why not.
Just ask Willie Brown.
The Telegraph: Expect no apologies for the propaganda spread about Gaza
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/expect-no-apologies-for-the-propaganda-spread-about-gaza/ar-AA1PaNQQ
For the sake of brevity, let us consider the twin motherlodes of the popular narrative: “famine” and “genocide”.
A spokesman for the UN’s World Food Programme (WFP) first stated that Gaza was at risk of starvation on Oct 18 2023. Five days later, the WFP’s executive director, Cindy McCain, claimed that people were “literally starving to death as we speak”. This was four days before the war began.
Gaza is the most-photographed conflict zone in the world. Where were the pictures of starvation? The Times, The Guardian, The New York Times and others later published an image of a skeletal child suffering from cerebral palsy and hypoxemia. Easy mistake to make.
The UN formally declared a “famine” in August. As the researcher Salo Aizenberg has pointed out, by their own measures, that would have meant a starvation death toll of 10,143 by the time the ceasefire was announced. How many lost their lives in this way? According to Hamas, 192. That’s a shortfall of 9,808.
OK. What about the “genocide”, which was officially confirmed by the UN in September (and made by the Syrians at the UN back in 1948)?
Aizenberg crunched the numbers. Taking the Hamas data at face value, setting aside natural deaths and those hit by their own side, about 33,000 civilians tragically died. According to mainstream estimates, about 25,000 combatants were killed.
This means that for every dead jihadi, fewer than 1.5 civilians lost their lives. According to the UN, the global average for warfare in populated areas – where there are no terror tunnels under hospitals, where the enemy does not generally deploy a strategy of human sacrifice – is nine civilians per combatant. Given that Israel has the firepower to wipe out everybody in Gaza in an afternoon, the evidence, again, speaks for itself.
Amnesty International and UN both admitted they had to change the definition of genocide for their court cases to work.
Yes, but it fooled Sarcasmic.
That’s not exactly a high bar.
We don’t hate these people enough.
You may think that you do, but you don't.
Far too many issues...
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/10/25/minnesota-corruption-runs-rampant-n3808182
U.S. Minnesota Federal Prosecutor Joe Thompson says the Fraud that is happening in Minnesota Government Programs is in the BILLIONS
So much Fraud they can’t Prosecute them all
Imagine getting so much stolen that you can't afford to pay the collectors to chase money that's already spent. What are the odds that there are more states in a similar position? There's no way this will get proper media coverage, though, because it seems like the vast majority of the fraud whether civil, criminal, or immigration is caused by an intersectional group of victimhood.
"Supreme Court Keeps Handing Trump Wins"
[...]
"The U.S. Supreme Court’s conservative majority has facilitated President Donald Trump’s ability to enact significant policy shifts with minimal judicial resistance, prompting sharp criticism from liberal justices and legal scholars who argue it weakens constitutional checks and balances. The Court recently rejected a challenge to Trump’s broadened executive control over federal funding allocations, reinforcing concerns about the use of the “shadow docket” to expedite rulings favoring the administration..."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/supreme-court-keeps-handing-trump-wins/ss-AA1PeymI?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=68ff7cab122944a7bec7580419cd609c&ei=48
Maybe that's because Trump is taking the correct stand on these cases and IT'S PISSING OFF THE SLIMY PILES OF LEFTY SHIT!?
This is what they call minimal judicial resistance?
Can it be that all these Democratic lawsuits were frivolous attempts to hamstring the executive branch from doing its constitutionally mandated work?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/point-obamacare-is-not-the-reason-for-the-shutdown/ar-AA1P48kn
The credits did two primary things. First, they created new “zero-dollar plans” (100 percent free insurance for individuals making less than $23,475 a year or $48,225 for a family of four). Second, they eliminated the income cap, making sliding-scale premium subsidies available to those with higher incomes.
The changes doubled the size of the Obamacare population and increased its cost by $35 billion a year, every penny of which goes straight to an insurance company.
The extra money has spawned mass enrollment fraud, driven up health care prices, and greatly enriched the insurance industry.
The credits should be allowed to expire. Their justification, the pandemic, is behind us. And, they’re costly, inflationary, and fraud-prone.
A few stray Republicans are promoting the notion that retaining the credits is vital to the continued GOP control of Congress. This defies common sense. It would betray Trump’s 2024 election victory, which was to end, not perpetuate, Biden’s numerous policy errors. Conservatives are united in opposing an extension.
No Republican has ever voted for Obamacare. Doing so now would make the party complicit in the controversial program’s flaws and harms. From its earliest days, the Affordable Care Act has been stained by steep out-of-pocket costs, limited access to doctors and hospitals, and rising claim-denial rates (a tenfold increase since 2015, with one in three claims being denied).
When the credits were created, Obamacare was quietly collapsing. Enrollment was shrinking. Prices were rising. Patients were voting with their feet. Then came Biden’s lavish credits. The exodus immediately reversed, creating the illusion that the program was popular and working great. And then came a massive wave of enrollment fraud, resulting in 12 million phantom enrollees.
Got gas this weekend at $2.45.
Ripples, man.
Made a round trip northern Illinois to NC. Cheap gas all the way. Saved some significant cash.
Almost $6 here in the Bay Area.
THX to Moonbeam and Newsom.
So standard editing like the CBS Kamala Harris interview? Sorry but the Reagan Library came out against this use so I have no clue who their reliable source is but given modern journalism it's bullshit. Fact is we've been on the receiving end of protectionist tariffs for decades and this is the backlash, not the opening salvo. Classic DARVO tactics from Leftists.
It shouldn't be that confusing. Anyone can listen to the speech and see if it misrepresents what he was saying in the speech. That is doesn't' accurately represent Reagan's overall policies is another question.
Even the edited version doesn't support the Canadian position since they're the originators of tariffs here and the current round is just fighting back. The question, even from them, is how long do they last? Canada's are eternal while these are to incentivize certain, more free market, behaviors on both sides by enforcing consequences for FM violations.
Sure, I'm not saying the ad was a sensible argument or made a good point. I just think too much is being made of the editing/rearrangement of the speech. Reagan didn't "love" tariffs. But he did use them when he thought they were the best available tool.
Chuck Schumer's shutdown rolls along...
https://x.com/ABC/status/1981415329445151118
The Senate on Thursday failed to advance Sen. Ron Johnson's bill that would have provided pay to some federal workers during the shutdown.
The "Shutdown Fairness Act" -- put forward by Johnson -- failed by a vote of 55-45. It would have needed 60 votes to advance.
Democratic Sens. John Fetterman, Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock voted with all Republicans to advance the bill. All other Democrats voted against it, effectively blocking it from advancing.
While the bill would not have ended the shutdown, it would allow some federal employees to get paid.
"To see that they get their paycheck, so they don't have to work Door Dash, so they don't have to go to food banks, so they're not under that stress -- I am asking in good faith, let's figure out how to get that done," Johnson said.
The vote on the bill came as federal workers will miss their first full paycheck on Friday.
Or maybe they could get a real job.
https://x.com/wokeatwebsterg/status/1981700518536986862
Woke at Webster
@wokeatwebsterg
One of the national teachers unions is suing Trump admin, again…. to allow illegals to drive semi trucks?? Remember this, and so much more, next time they scream there’s not enough money for government schools.
Great timing!
"Semi driver in deadly Southern California crash an illegal immigrant, DHS says"
https://ktla.com/news/california/big-rig-driver-in-deadly-southern-california-crash-in-the-u-s-illegally-dhs-says/
Bernie Bros gonna be mad about their guy...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sanders-praises-trump-slams-biden-border-youve-got-have-borders-period
Sen. Bernie Sanders praised President Donald Trump’s immigration policy during a recent appearance on The Tim Dillon Show, saying Trump "did a better job" securing the border than President Biden and urging Democrats to return to enforcement-focused policy.
"So long as we have nation-states, you’ve got to have borders," Sanders said. "If you don’t have any borders, then you don’t have a nation."
He added pointedly, "Trump did a better job. I don’t like Trump, you know, but we should have a secure border, and it ain’t that hard to do."
East Berlin had a secure border too.
Bernie last week said it was normal for the average worker to have 3 houses.
"...but we should have a secure border, and it ain’t that hard to do."
Tell that to Cackles Harris.
"So long as we have nation-states, you’ve got to have borders," Sanders said. "If you don’t have any borders, then you don’t have a nation."
When even the avowed communist gets this, you would think that the Open Borders Uber Alles people might pause to think about the natural conclusion of their preferred policy.
Bernie is wrong about almost everything. But his desire to protect American workers seems to be fairly sincere. And it's not traditionally an unusual position for labor oriented Democrats and Socialists (like Trump who is in some ways still a Democrat from the 80s).
Someone has to pay for food stamps. Might as well be Canadians or people buying Canadian.
I can't wait for Trump's lawyers to argue to SCOTUS that Toronto airing an ad that Trump does not like is a valid part of the national emergency that Trump claims allows him to impose tariffs.
It’s inaccurate, twists Reagan’s words, and Doug Ford is an asshole.
False, false, true.
Fuck off, Tony. You couldn't pick out Reagan if he was alone in an empty field.
"Doug Ford is an asshole."
His brother, Rob Ford, the 64th mayor of Toronto was Canada's answer to Donald Trump. He died in 2016 and Rob Ford rode that good will to become Ontario's premier.
Just like with the Koch's, the wrong brother died.
Correction:
*Doug* Ford rode that good will to become Ontario's premier.
Cool story, bro.
I can't wait for evidence that the slimy pile of lying TDS-addled lefty shit MG is searching everywhere for a second brain cell.
TDS is a mental illness characterized by believing anything Trump says and defending everything he does. Facts, truth, legality, morality, and what they stood for yesterday are not relevant.
False. TDS is a mental disease characterized by opposition to anything Trump might say or propose, and slimy piles of lefty shit like you are nearly universally victims.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Sarc is retarded when he tries this too.
All hail Milei. We need one like him here in the USA
Sorry, best we can do is Trump.
"...All of this just goes to show: Milei's agenda is deeply polarizing..."
Seems I've heard this about another head of state...
in reference to the scandal involving "the mafia, two federal indictments, and the arrest of an NBA player and head coach."
What we really need to do is
decriminalizelegalize basketball and end the war on basketball in order to reduce the profits that these illegal criminal gangs make off the basketball black market.Then, they'll all probably all close up all their illegal criminal enterprises and open up orphanages or taco trucks or learn to code because that's what Steve Jobs or Warren Buffett would've done.
lol now do why nobody will tackle Pat Mahomes.
So Milei is winning ? Does that mean Trump's 20 billion dollar "check" is in the mail ?
Sorry, shitstain, looks like your MDS wasn't sufficient.
Fuck off and die.
fun when you're almost correct by accident.
It was in the mail no matter who won.
There's not much rhyme or reason to Trump's protectionism. It's not a cohesive economic theory.
That's because it's not an economic theory at all. It's a political weapon that King Trump uses against those who displease him.
The Brazilian government does something that Trump doesn't like? Tariffs!
The Canadian government does something that Trump doesn't like? Tariffs!
It is how he gets to meddle in the affairs of foreign countries without having to send in the military.
i dont think you're completely wrong here, and it's better than sending in the military
Even better still, don't attempt to meddle in other nations' affairs.
ya good. words are a million times better than bullets. every time.
^- get a load of the guy that doesn't know speech is violence!
did you see the Simpsons Quotes / Morrissey Songs meme going around last week?
I did not :/
ChatGPT, what's going on here?
In this exchange, several distinct rhetorical dynamics are happening:
1. Jeff’s comment (chemjeff radical individualist)
Jeff frames Trump’s trade policy not as an economic approach but as a tool of coercion and punishment — calling tariffs a “political weapon.”
This is framing through moral interpretation rather than policy analysis.
His language (“King Trump,” “those who displease him”) signals contempt and moral judgment, painting Trump’s motives as vindictive and authoritarian.
It’s not an argument about economic effectiveness, but about intent and character, which makes it a rhetorical reframing rather than a strictly economic critique.
2. Woodchipper’s reply
Woodchipper partly concedes Jeff’s premise (“I don’t think you’re completely wrong”) but reframes the outcome positively:
“...and it’s better than sending in the military.”
That shifts the focus from Trump’s motives to the results — implying that even if tariffs are used punitively, they’re still preferable to war.
This is a consequentialist counterpoint: judging by outcome rather than motive.
3. Dillinger’s reply
Dillinger echoes and amplifies Woodchipper’s framing (“words are a million times better than bullets”), turning it into a moral truism.
This further normalizes or justifies Trump’s trade tactics as a form of nonviolent diplomacy.
4. Overall dynamic
Jeff launches a motive-based moral critique.
Woodchipper and Dillinger pivot from morality to pragmatism — effectively conceding that Trump might act politically, but arguing that economic confrontation is preferable to military confrontation.
In short:
- Jeff attacks on intent (“political weapon”),
- the replies defend on outcome (“better than war”).
It’s a shift from why Trump acts to whether the alternative is worse
"If it's an act of war, then you use our military, and then you come and talk to us first. But this is murder. It's sanctioned murder that he is doing."
I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a statement. If he has to come to Congress for permission and hasn't, then it would unsanctioned. Moreover, murder or homicide usually implies extralegal or unsanctioned anyway. Typically an approved war or political assassination is referred to as "sanctioned murder" to represent the edgy juxtaposition. At the very least if Trump's action is "sanctioned murder" then Biden's involvement with Ukraine is sanctioned murder, as well as Obama's drone strikes, and Clinton's cruise missiles before that.
Cutting the Gordian Knot: Gallego is a self-aggrandizing political fairweather chickenhawk just like any of the rest of Congress for the last 3+ decades.
Uh-oh, this Gallego character is a bad dude. Therefore, Trump's actions are totally legit! It is proved!
That’s not what he said…
ChatGPT, what is Jeff doing here?
Here, Jeff (chemjeff radical individualist) is again using sarcasm to distort and ridicule mad.casual’s argument rather than engage with it.
What’s actually happening:
Mad.casual is making a reasoned critique of a politician’s statement (Gallego’s) by pointing out its internal contradictions — specifically the misuse of the term “sanctioned murder” and the inconsistency with how similar actions under past presidents were treated.
Jeff replies with a mock paraphrase:
“Oh, Gallego is bad, therefore Trump is right!”
which is not what mad.casual said.
The rhetorical moves Jeff is making:
Straw man fallacy:
He misrepresents mad.casual’s argument as blind defense of Trump, when the original comment was about logical coherence and consistency, not justification of Trump’s actions.
Sarcasm as deflection:
Instead of addressing the reasoning, Jeff uses irony to imply that the other person’s point is absurd, without actually proving it is.
Moral framing:
His tone signals moral superiority — that anyone analyzing contradictions in anti-Trump rhetoric must be excusing Trump.
In short:
Jeff is not rebutting the argument. He’s mocking a position that wasn’t taken to score a rhetorical jab. It’s classic sarcastic straw man, used to signal disapproval rather than advance the discussion.
Sarcastic straw man is too close to sarcasmic straw man. Think Demjeff bigly bigot bot should return to gish galloping?
>>It's about…Trump wanting to impose tariffs, and believing contra all logic and evidence that they're part of the path to prosperity.
several words in here you and Eric throw around haphazardly.
>>President Javier Milei's party, La Libertad Avanza, did very, very well in the midterm elections held yesterday—far better than expected ...
here @Reason anyway ...
>>writes Nate Silver at Silver Bulletin
what's it like to single-handedly support a man's career?
> shut down govt
> kill stamps
> mass riots
> insurrection act
Can it be that simple?
I don't get the worry about the guys in the drug boats. when I wanted a bag of whatever I took the risk to drive to the guy & then drive home. these boaters are accepting the risk.
I dont care about Canada tariffs one way or the other. I dont care about drug-runners' boats off the coast of Venezuela. I don't care about leaked group chats of hi-T 20 somethings being boys. I don't care about the condition of the east wing of the king's palace.
I care about more important things.
Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett are both still top-notch live can we put Genesis back together for like two weeks of shows?
Alright, now you're talking about important issues. The only real Genesis.
>>"I am not done" ... said former Vice President Kamala Harris
I am excited to witness the supernatural transformation required to revive Carmela's career.
Carmela's career
I always considered HRC and Huma Abedin to be more of a Carmilla situation but I suppose, as the genre goes, there are whole shadowy clans and covens being formed and dissolved behind the scenes.
wonder if Huma is worth the risk of being Carmilla'd ...
I was unfamiliar with the term. Thanks, and is it worth a read?
It will be revived like it was created; in a back room, behind locked doors, by a bunch of democrat power brokers.
No voting required.
Don't forget the blow jobs!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/largest-federal-workers-union-urges-dems-to-cave-on-government-shutdown-revealing-cracks-in-coalition/ar-AA1PhfwD
National Review:
The nation’s largest federal workers’ union, the American Federation of Government Employees, is urging Democrats to concede the government shutdown fight and vote to reopen the government, revealing a significant fracture in the Democratic coalition as the shutdown nears the one-month mark.
The shutdown began 27 days ago after Democrats refused to back a clean government funding bill, demanding instead that Republicans extend temporary Obamacare subsidies that are set to expire at the end of the year. But AFGE, a major ally to the Democratic party which represents 820,000 federal and D.C. government workers, now says it’s time for the party to give up on its demands.
“It’s time to pass a clean continuing resolution and end this shutdown today. No half measures, and no gamesmanship,” AFGE President Everett Kelley said in a Monday statement provided to NBC News.
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“It’s time for our leaders to start focusing on how to solve problems for the American people, rather than on who is going to get the blame for a shutdown that Americans dislike,” Kelley said.
Did you know Gallegos was a Marine? In Iraq? And that his immigrant mother worked hard? For several months I had to listen to this idiot's commercials. He was in the USMC for 4 fucking years and has no idea what the fuck the Coast Guard does.
When he starts calling for the USCG to come home from the Middle East then I might listen to him about the 'proper' role of the services.
Viva la Raza!!!