Trump Erroneously Thinks Killing Suspected Smugglers Is the Key to Winning the Drug War
Until now, the president concedes, interdiction has been "totally ineffective." Blowing up drug boats won't change that reality.

During a press conference in the Oval Office this week, a reporter asked President Donald Trump about his new policy of summarily executing suspected drug smugglers in the Caribbean Sea, which so far has included five military strikes on speedboats, killing a total of at least 27 people. "Why not have the Coast Guard stop them," as it is "empowered by law to do?" the reporter wondered. That way, he suggested, "you can confirm who's on the boat" and "ensure that they're doing what you suspect."
Trump's answer was not that drug smuggling is tantamount to violent aggression, as he has repeatedly claimed, or that it merits the death penalty, as he has long argued. Nor did he aver that blowing up the boats is consistent with the law of war because the United States is engaged in an "armed conflict" with drug cartels, as the White House recently told Congress. Rather, Trump claimed his literalization of the war on drugs was necessary because the usual interdiction methods have been "totally ineffective" for "30 years."
The latter assessment is accurate; for more than a century, in fact, the government has been trying and failing to prevent politically disfavored intoxicants from reaching American consumers. But Trump is wrong to think that the added deterrent of simply killing people suspected of transporting illegal drugs will finally accomplish that impossible mission, and his overestimation of that policy's benefits is coupled with a disregard for its costs. Ordering the military murder of drug suspects simultaneously corrupts the mission of the armed forces, erasing the traditional distinction between civilians and combatants, and obliterates longstanding principles of criminal justice, dispensing with the need for charges or proof.
Historically, Trump said, 30 percent of illegal drugs imported into the United States would "come in through the seas." Caribbean boats like the ones he is targeting account for a fraction of that fraction. "Despite the Trump administration's portrayal of the Caribbean and Venezuela as a rampant conduit for drugs killing Americans," The New York Times notes, "the vast majority of maritime drug trafficking bound for the United States actually occurs on the Pacific," according to U.S. and United Nations data.
Even in the Caribbean, the impact of Trump's bloodthirsty program has been more subtle and complicated than he suggests. "We've almost totally stopped it by sea now," he declared on Wednesday.
Well, not really. "With the Trump administration cracking down on the U.S. southern border and flooding the Caribbean with military assets, drug traffickers are finding different ways to push drugs from Colombia, the world's largest cocaine producer, to various markets," the Times reports. According to "experts and law enforcement officials," it says, "some smugglers are increasingly using cargo vessels in the Caribbean to hide contraband," which "makes it particularly difficult to detect because the drugs are mixed in with legal goods, such as produce."
In Trinidad and Tobago, "the Trump administration's crackdown in the region has led to a sudden surge in the number of illegal air flights from South America dropping bales of drugs at sea, to be picked by larger vessels." In Jamaica, "anti-narcotics officials say drug dealers are moving drugs in smaller quantities to lessen their loss if their loads are confiscated." According to one of those officials, "we are seeing changes in modus operandi," meaning "more covert means are being used to transship drugs."
Blowing up speedboats in the Caribbean, in short, may affect smuggling patterns, but it cannot reasonably be expected to have a noticeable impact on the supply available to American consumers. Trump is attacking a specific smuggling method, but there are many alternatives, including other sea routes, transportation in vehicles across the southern border, smuggling by air and tunnels, and shipment by mail and courier services.
Because there are so many ways to evade any barriers the government manages to erect, there is only so much that interdiction, no matter how violent, can accomplish. At most, it imposes costs on traffickers that may ultimately be reflected in retail prices. But that strategy is complicated by the fact that illegal drugs acquire most of their value close to the consumer. The cost of replacing seized intercepted shipments is therefore relatively small, a tiny fraction of the "street value" trumpeted by law enforcement agencies. As you get closer to the retail level, the replacement cost rises, but the amount that can be seized at one time falls.
Trump sees no such difficulties, even as he complains that interdiction thus far has been "totally ineffective." As he tells it, blowing up a drug boat reduces the supply to Americans by whatever amount the vessel was carrying. "Every boat that we knock out, we save 25,000 American lives," he averred at the press conference.
That claim is based on a dubious calculation that divides the weight of intercepted drugs by the estimated lethal dose. Trump's logic implies that, by destroying five drug boats, he saved 125,000 lives, which exceeds the annual estimate of drug-related deaths in the United States. This is the same fallacious reasoning on which Attorney General Pam Bondi relied when she absurdly asserted that the Trump administration had "saved…258 million lives" by intercepting shipments of illicit fentanyl.
That is not the only problem with Trump's claim. He referred repeatedly to fentanyl, which accounts for more than two-thirds of drug deaths, implying that was the drug the boats were carrying. "Every boat is saving 25,000 lives," he said. "The boats get hit, and you see that fentanyl all over the ocean." But illicit fentanyl in the United States overwhelmingly travels by land across the border with Mexico, while the Caribbean traffic consists mainly of cocaine. Although "the Caribbean continues to be an important hub for the trafficking of Colombian cocaine, with some of it passing through Venezuela," the Times notes, that country "plays no role in the movement of fentanyl."
Trump's conflation of cocaine with fentanyl does not inspire confidence in his assertion that all of the destroyed boats were in fact carrying drugs, or that all of the people whose deaths he ordered were in fact "narcoterrorists." As Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.) notes, "Coast Guard statistics show that about one in four interdictions finds no drugs," which suggests the potential for lethal error.
Trump himself has repeatedly alluded to that risk. After the first strike, he joked about it: "I think anybody that saw that is going to say, 'I'll take a pass.' I don't even know about fishermen. They may say, 'I'm not getting on the boat. I'm not going to take a chance.'" On Wednesday, Trump again suggested that the threat posed by the boat attacks is not limited to drug smugglers: "I don't know about the fishing industry. If you want to go fishing, a lot of people aren't deciding to even go fishing."
NBC News reports that "Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill have left briefings about the strikes frustrated with the lack of information." Some legislators "have asked for unedited video of the strikes, reflecting the kind of basic information they seek, but the administration has so far refused to provide it."
Lawmakers "are also asking the administration to explain who was killed in the strikes, how they were positively identified as legitimate targets for lethal force, what intelligence indicated that they had possible links to drug trafficking gangs and what information showed that they were heading to the United States with drugs." Even "Republicans who broadly support the attacks and the administration generally" are "concerned about the level of precision of the intelligence used to determine targets and the possibility that an American citizen could be killed in the operations."
These are all good questions. But there is no getting around the uncertainty inherent in killing people "assessed" to be drug smugglers. By treating drug law enforcement as a military matter, Trump avoids the inconvenience of arresting suspects and presenting evidence against them in court. In effect, he is imposing the death penalty, which does not ordinarily apply in drug trafficking cases, without statutory authorization or any semblance of due process. And he is doing all that based on the manifestly mistaken assumption that he has found the key to finally winning the unwinnable war on drugs.
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JS;dr. But I have a question. Jacob has distinguished himself as a radical apologist for the leftist deep state. What makes him or, more to the point, Reason magazine think that anybody gives a shit what this obviously damaged asshole thinks about... well anything? Absolutely every screed he has puked up in the last 9 years is just demented TDS. Now to be fair I haven't waded in to his journalistic cesspool in a couple of years. But judging by the headlines it appears he's really gone off the deep end. Reason obviously doesn't give a shit about it's credibility but I fear that it is only exacerbating Jacob's lunacy to a point of no return. He's been sucking up that fat Koch money for a long time. Surely he could live out his golden years in a comfortable retirement facility.
Have you ever noticed how virtually every article of his is just parroting the NYT?
Not really only because I don’t read his offerings anymore. Given the comments by those that still do, I’m not changing my position on this.
Winning the war on drugs is simple, stop fighting it. End drug prohibition declare victory and move on.
Wow, found the libertarian. In these comments it's like finding Waldo.
Fuck off and stop sockpuppeting, Sarckles.
Yeah, nobody’s ever said to end the drug war in these comments.
Yeah, I'd expect more Libertarians in the comments on a Libertarian news site, seems to be largely Republicans commenting about how much they hate the site, but they keep coming back anyway.
This isn’t a libertarian news site.
Oh my God. And you're a fucking retard as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason_Foundation?wprov=sfla1
Well there it is. The libertarian approved authority: Wikipedia.
Sorry RMac,
CNNerrrMaddowerrrNYTcrap, Wikipedia claims something political so he really burned you.Lol. How quickly the left shows their colors.
Wiki. Which is now listing cbs and Bari Weiss as right wing. Fucking hilarious.
North Korea calls themselves democratic.
Antifa calls themselves anti fascist.
Youre a fucking moron.
The Reason Institute is a tax write-off for Koch. Nobody reads their shit. It's descent into leftist propaganda mirrors the ACLU.
"...Oh my God. And you're a fucking retard as well..."
And then links to WIKI!?
Fuck off and die, shitstain.
Sevo, wouldn't it be _nicer_ if substituted private hand-flapping and vocalizations for repeating the same insults when you feel the need for stimming and self-soothing?
As the now gone Diane Reynolds, god rest her soul, used to say, don't get Sevo killed new guy.
He’s Rick James bitch!
Ha!
The leftists here always get big mad when their takeover is stymied.
You and your allies aren't libertarian. Your soros acolytes wrapped in libertarian costumes. But your principles always break down when forced to give a reasoned argument.
To you libertarianism is freedom from responsibility, if on the left. Fuck the damage that comes out of it.
The NAP isnt a freedom from consequence.
SOROS! DRINK!
Does Lying Jeffy think this is convincing?
I think it is funny.
Your horrible sense of humor is well established.
Sarc is way ahead of you.
Collectivists Undercover Cosplaying Liberal Libertines
CUCLLS
I coined this!
Now I have to steal it and use it inappropriately.
I guess that the non-libertarian Trump supporters (an oxymoron) are still getting free access. I don't know why they don't go to Breitbart and similar sites where the editorial content is a better match for their feelings and intellects.
Some come here because they are paid to push right-wing narratives.
Some come here deliberately to troll and bait people into arguing with them.
Some come here because they have a seriously fucked up view of liberty - more of a privilege than a birthright, and they think that is how all should view liberty.
Excuse me, I tried to remove "(an oxymoron)", which did not match the "non-" that I added but did not hit Edit in time.
Excused, it's difficult keeping multiple accounts straight when responding to yourself.
Holy fuck. And we found the retard. You are quite retarded. This is, after all, a libertarian website, shit for brains.
The libertarians disagree. Some of the editors trend libertarian on an issue or possibly more than one, but otherwise trend libertine to progressive. And the TDS going around their office (and cocktail parties) has affected most. Stossel is immune and Wolfe might just have a few sniffles.
Stossel is immune because he doesn't reside in Reason's offices. He merely sends his articles in from elsewhere and thus avoids the contagion.
You're not libertarian. You're a right-wing authoritarian bootlicker.
Why don't you tell us all again about so-called "rapefugees", or tell us what you really think about the LGBTQ community.
You and your ilk aren't in favor of liberty for liberty's sake. You view liberty as a privilege for those who are moral in your view.
Demjeff racial collectivist, keep seething and raging. It is hilarious. 🙂
- Chumby the little L libertarian
Scumby the Chimp-Chump has NOTHING other than empty-headed insults, with which to defend shit's hatred, AuthorShitarianism, and TotalShitarianism! Oh, and Scumby the Chimp-Chump has "I didn't read that" as shit's MOIST powerful "argument"!
Haven't seen you around Special guy/gal/it but I admire your strategy. Calling people retards is a sure fire way to win converts to your brilliant political philosophy.
Shut up shrike, you ignorant slut.
Precisely. The only reason that blowing up boats will have no effect is that US drug policy makes it far too profitable for aspiring traffickers to just walk away. They realize they could die, and they take the risk, because there's just so much money out there for the taking.
This is the only sensible way.
Then it becomes the war on the non drug using population as seen in many dem run areas.
I'd agree with you when drug addicts are held to their crimes and aren't a violent risk for normals. Or at least let normals protect themselves.
But the calls for legalization always come with creation of open air drug dens and even government enabling addiction through welfare and needles.
Not decriminalized, legalized, like you can buy it at Walmart legal.
That would be a good outcome .... for some. But, for certain, hundreds of thousands would die from fentanyl poisoning over the coming years. You can't just end the war, you have to put in place a program of legalization and quality control. Kids won't die if they know that the pill they are taking is only enough for one evening, unless of course they intentionally take more. But that's on them.
I'm not really up on how well Oregon and Portugal have done with their experiments, but I've heard that they have been less than successful. Learn what NOT to do from them.
Why would I care if people killed themselves with drugs if they were legal? I don't care now. Just repeal all the laws criminalizing drugs. In Libertopia quality is privately certified or you can buy uncertified.
Well, it worked in Viet Nam.
Declare victory in the face of obvious evidence otherwise, and go home.
Sure, a few million died, but they weren't ours.
We got peace with honor. Cronkite declared it.
The mission was to defend South Vietnam which we did. It didn't fall until 2 years after we left.
South Vietnam fell because Democrats reneged on our agreement to replace bullet for bullet, vehicle for vehicle, etc they had to use to defend themselves from North Vietnam.
I agree; HOWEVER,
That works when and if and only if, other people are NOT held accountable for the decisions of drug users.
As long as remedying their bad decisions is my problem, NFW. If we use it as a new form of Darwinism, I am ALL IN.
And also stop devoting government/taxpayers money to treating ODs. Let them be free to do what they want, and if that's sliding into death on a high, let them.
I dont agree with unilaterally bombing people that may (most likely) or may not be smuggling drugs.
But Sullum saying that blowing up drug boats won't stop drug boats is just stupid.
They’ll use mules, submarines, and planesshould boats no longer be a profitable means of transportation.
I don’t agree with liquidating drug smugglers. TdA is bad for other reasons, but not a fan of the drug war.
Admiralty law is complicated. Trump's idea of simplifying it is an executive order or decision document to sink vessels that satisfy a signature algorithm first, and not ask questions later.
The trouble is that such targeting criteria may invite strikes on classes of vessels widely and reasonably suspected of carrying drug traffickers .
Once all boats chasing fish between Mar A Lago and Tobago are fair game how many shady characters boarding on a Saturday night will it take to make the Staten Island or Chappaquidick Ferry a prime Hellfire missile target?
So far Ted Kennedy has killed more people in Chappaquiddick than Trump.
I'm still waiting for proof, any proof, that these boats were smuggling drugs.
"Oh come on. The White House Press Secretary said so. How much more proof do you need?" --JesseBot
Yeah! When the Dominican Republic said that they helped the US Navy retrieve 377 packages of cocaine from the attacks, they were totally making it up.
Trump probably forced them to say it, and you can't trust Dominicans... and how do we know they were the real Dominican Republic. Did anyone see its notarized drivers license?
Wait, you are citing the AP? How can you possibly believe their reporting? They are leftwing propaganda, right???
I seem to recall you claim that they were being paid by USAID to push government propaganda, right? How do we know that AP isn't being paid to push government propaganda again? Huh????
And I also note that you missed the whole point of my comment, which was to mock JesseBot for unquestioningly believing most if not all claims that this administration makes. Gee I wonder why you would try to divert the topic.
Jeff and shrike rely on ignorance to make arguments.
Well, they've got good inventory on both!
Even when I agree with you on a general topic you still have to lie. Sad.
Mockery isn't a lie. It's mockery.
Also, weird how you claim to "agree with me on a general topic" yet still find room to (falsely) criticize me, yet how many times have your pals like JesseBot lied yet you hardly ever see fit to criticize them?
Could it be that you are just full of shit instead?
I think it's definitely possible. But in this country, at least up until now, we don't execute people for things that are possible, ore even likely. We used to be better than that. This is why Derek Chauvin is in prison.
Because an addict died from an OD?
Complained about breathing in the cruiser. Forced himself out.
Lungs 3x normal weight, sign of OD.
Amount of drugs in his system.
You just love your political heads on a pike.
Hey retard, you have the proof from the amount of drugs recovered. The DR has posted it.
Your continued reliance on ignorance is not an argument.
I'm so sorry your search engine is broken.
When it gets fixed, you can find proof enough in pictures of the drugs that were among the debris.
Further, you may have a near fatal case of TDS, but assuming Trump just says 'shoot any boat at all' suggests you're not really smart.
Pretty certain there are some pretty reliable profiles of the smugglers/boats/routes/etc and that they are visually confirmed,
(And not "YOU", LTBF.)
The president has zero authority under any law to attack a boat of another nation that we are not at war with.
You tell president jefferson!
"Trump Erroneously Thinks Killing Suspected Smugglers Is the Key to Winning the Drug War"
That "erroneously" is doing a hell of a lot of heavy lifting, Jacob.
Because there are so many ways to evade any barriers the government manages to erect, there is only so much that interdiction, no matter how violent, can accomplish.
Just as true for people crossing borders as it is for drugs crossing borders.
I think it's fantastic how Trump got you Democrats defending the cartels and their drug boats in the public's eyes. Amazing stuff.
I'm not defending cartels and drug boats. That's you and your team and everyone else who wants to keep drug prohibition going. You all are the reason why drug lords are so rich, because you insist on maintaining this black market for them. If it were up to me, all of the drug lords and cartels would either go out of business or convert into respectable enterprises because they would be selling a legal product in an open marketplace.
Same goes for your team's war on illegal labor. YOU and your team are the reason why coyotes get rich smuggling people across the border. YOU and your team are the reason why poor immigrants are exploited and harmed by disreputable smugglers, because you create the market for them to exist in with your insane border restrictionism.
How dare you have laws against egalitarianism!
/Jeffy
Yes we know, the phrase "all men are created equal" is now considered "woke nonsense".
Tell me again, when our constitution extended to all humans, in both time directions?
Are "all men created equal" in terms of their natural rights? Yes or no?
NO!
That line is in reference to human dignity, based entirely on a biblical notion of the fact that God loves us in spite of our sins:
Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
I'm sorry that you cannot separate rights from dignity.
Okay, so you believe not all people are equal in terms of their natural rights.
Who has more natural rights than others, what are they, and why?
Reminder: Natural rights are rights that we have by virtue of our birth. They are not civil rights like the right to vote.
You have as many rights as you vote (with your feet or wallet) to have.
So we only have the rights that we are able to obtain by our own actions? Is that what you are saying?
If a thief beats me up and steals my money, then it was because I never really had the right to that money in the first place because I was unable to prevent that money from being stolen from me?
So we only have the rights that we are able to obtain by our own actions?
Or the actions of your given governance.
So government grants natural rights?
I suppose you think that all men are created equal" means you can live in my house rent free.
Equal rights, not equal stuff. If you want to cross my border, give me a good reason why I would want you one my side.
And if you want to deregulate drugs and immigration, I'll consider it. I'll consider it right after you acknowledge my freedom to not pay taxes or follow regulations that I don't like.
I also note:
defending the cartels and their drug boats in the public's eyes
That's all you really care about, isn't it? That the public thinks Trump's opposition is "defending cartels", even if it's not true? That is what your team is reduced to - lust for power, and manipulating narratives in order to maintain that power. Who cares about facts or data or reality, all that matters is power and propaganda.
20% issue. Jeff defends it.
Criminals. Jeff defends it.
You, above:
I'd agree with you when drug addicts are held to their crimes and aren't a violent risk for normals. Or at least let normals protect themselves.
This is how you view liberty - as something that only "normals" are entitled to.
Keep pushing. We are directly over the target.
You know this is a Libertarian news outlet, yeah? I think most Libertarians would be opposed to due process violations. I would seriously question if somebody were actually a Libertarian if they were okay with this.
You must be new here.
Mother's Lament is a social conservative troll. To him, liberty is only for the "good people".
Sorry new guy. Reason hasn't been libertarian for a very long time.
It might be Libertarian but not libertarian.
thaddeusk, many of the commenters are not [L|l]ibertarian. However, according to Biasly.com, _Reason_ has “a monthly print and digital circulation of over 50,000 as well as 4 million website visits a month”. Compared to those numbers, the commenters are few, and our efforts are almost a private vice. The subscribers and donors, including me, tend to be libertarians.
If I didn’t know better this comment would make me think Lying Jeffy is paid to come here and advocate for open borders.
Could just be a push to get millions of undocumented and questionably documented boys into the nation. You do the math.
Well it is the Marxist position. Why wouldn't he?
I advocate for libertarian ideals.
If anyone is paid to come here, it's people like Jesse and ML. Frankly I don't think Jesse has a real job other than to post here and read right-wing news sources.
Frankly I don't think
On this, I concur.
libertarian =/= anarchy. Your position on borders is de facto anarchy (note, not chaos, but the elimination of hierarchy).
Ruined some perfectly good cocaine. The Fatass Fascist is the ultimate drug warrior. Donnie should have just slapped some of his tariffs on the product.
In what world is Corpulent Caligula a libertarian?
You were banned for posting a link to child porn.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
turd, the TDS-addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
"Corpulent Caligula" indeed! Winner, winner, chicken dinner!!!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/republicans-becoming-party-big-government-121954676.html
Republicans have become the party of Big Government.
Originally in Bloomberg.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
Young Republicans admit “I love Hitler” in private.
Mother Lament rejoices.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
turd, the TDS-addled shit-stain of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
It's all bullshit as much as Bitcunt. Trump doesn't care about drugs, he's been a coke head all his life. At least, as it is rare, PBS's Newshour had the courage last night pointing out Trumps ambitions as President mostly to serve only the ambitions of the 12 tribes of Israel. All the wars in the middle east, Killing Goyim babies and destroying Gaza, putting a Jew to lead Syria, making a deal with Jewish lead Hezbollah was just making sure that all eastern Mediterranean Gas patch profited only the tribes. Now, wait for Ebola to decimate Turkish Cyprus, as International Courts have repeatedly adjudicated them the patch's majority ownership, and a Lebanese port style explosion in the port of turkey and the job is done. From PBS: For Venezuela, who has nationalized the biggest nearest to the southern hemisphere natural oil well sitting in the sovereign waters of the Caribbean sea, it's regime change. The B-52 spectacle yesterday, and the Nobel Peace Prize to Machado to Oust Maduro, privatize everything, are all tools to provoke regime change so the "tribes" can use corporate ownership to get their hands on this oil. Just think how fat the Mossad and CIA cooperated to make a Coup d'État in Bolivia to oust Morales just to have Elon "scent of a skunk" Musk tribal member steal the Lithium rich resources.
Trump provokes with a "little help from his Zionist friends" and stimulates the Ukraine/Russia war to get to Ukraine's rare earth metals rich land and by the same token weakens Russia so the Tribes can get to all the Oil and other resources of the the North Pole, also threatens Denmark for the same ambitions... what kind of drawing Musk one make for people to "Woke" up. If your not a descendant of the Tribes.... In Vitro Fertilization by "Jewish sperm only" apartheid laws will take care of you...
Do liberals just make shit up on anything? He doesn't even drink lol. His kids are normal as compared to your hero Biden's.
And why are you all fucking antisemetic?
"It's all bullshit as much as Bitcunt."
Naah. It's all about lying piles of lefty shit known as Denys Picard.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Kinda weird the new commenters showing up on this thread. We've got the self proclaimed libertarians and the anti semites. Do you all have a secret handshake?
Denys Picard, your simulation of schizophrenia is not bad but also is not convincing. I suggest looking up the psychological jargon phrase "looseness of association". To the degree you that you exhibit it, your writing flows naturally, but you should allow your imagination to run freer as you transition from one phrase to the next to give the full schizophrenic flavour. I also suggest that you take your simulation somewhere else.
If they wait until the drug smuggler is attending a wedding and then drone bomb the wedding - that is ok right? Even the Democrats thought droning weddings was ok when Obama was in office.
That was (D)ifferent
Donnie just commuted the sentence of his fellow POS George Santos.
Party loyalty is the most important thing to Republicans.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
Does the aversion therapy use large caliber weapons? Asking for a friend who knows turd.
I don’t think there is a cure. Iirc, in Canada and possibly other places they castrate pedophiles like him to reduce the surges of urges.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
BTW, did you see turd whining about the Biden crew handing out "get out of jail free" cards?
Me, neither, but remember, turd lies. It's what turd does.
What do you expect? He pardoned Charles Kushner AND made him the ambassador to France. That dude is a huge pile of human garbage. Also pardoned people who assaulted and murdered police officers.
I don't think any president should be pardoning anybody, really. If there's something wrong with the verdict, it should go through the proper judicial processes to be resolved. That's why we have appeals.
Yeah and then he pardoned his entire family including his son who posted videos of himself smoking crack and fucking Russian prostitutes. Oh wait. That was the good president.
Gaear Grimsrud, Biden and Trump are both bad by both libertarian and good-government standards. Their misuses of the pardon power are examples.
But 'both sides', right, infantile thinker? Thinking is really HARD, and making distinctions is tough when you can just stuff your fingers in your ears and claim moral superiority as a result of imbecility.
Grow up, or fuck off and die; the world will thank you.
Sevo, should President Trump have pardoned Ronald Colton McAbee, who was convicted of six felonies for his actions at the U.S. Capitol riot on 6 January 2021?
From https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/tennessee-man-sentenced-prison-multiple-felony-charges-related-jan-6-capitol-breach:
…McAbee wore the reinforced brass knuckle gloves that his associate had ordered for him…a Metropolitan Police Department officer positioned toward the opening of the Archway was knocked to the ground, kicked, and stripped of his baton by other rioters…After the officer was knocked to the ground, McAbee stepped into the Archway, grabbed the officer's leg, and pulled him further toward the crowd. When a second MPD officer stepped off the police line to assist the downed officer, McAbee...swung his arms and hands towards the officer's head and torso. McAbee made contact with the officer and was wearing the reinforced knuckle gloves at the time of the assault… McAbee then returned his attention to the downed officer and lifted him by the torso and shoulders. As a result, McAbee and the officer slid down a set of steps, with McAbee falling on top of the officer. The two landed in the crowd, where McAbee held the officer down while other rioters assailed the officer for over 20 seconds before the officer was finally able to get up and work his way back to the Archway. The officer sustained physical injuries, including a head laceration, concussion, elbow injury, bruising, and bodily abrasions….
when the far left Democrat cultist Autopen did it, it was good. But now a normal president is doing it, it is bad.
I think if nothing else, we can all agree that blowing up the drug boats is - regardless of its efficacy - cool as all get out and twice as fun to watch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgnCWxssbzQ
Tell me you can't watch that on repeat all night long and consider it an evening well spent.
KA-PLEW! KA-PLOW! KA-BLOOIE!
Every time those boats explode I laugh and clap like a child at peek-a-boo.
Shorter AT. “ Fuck the NAP. Let’s kill people”
Language.
Also, those deaths were 100% preventable. All one has to do - like so many normal people all over the world do - is get up in the morning and think, "I'm not going to be drug running bad guy today."
There's more involved here.
The drug-runners are now being threatened by US intel and ammo; they were formerly threatened by only their competitors.
Now they are ALL being threatened.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
All of the KA made me sentimental for Adam West. An artist and a great American.
Update on the 13-year-old boy who was kidnapped by ICE and transported from Massachusetts to Virginia without the parents knowing:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/police-chief-blows-ice-barbie-105158529.html
Turns out, there was no gun at all. It was totally made up by the government propagandists.
Also:
Oh. So the boy had a "rap sheet" that not even local law enforcement was willing to mention. Maybe the whole "rap sheet" thing was made up too.
That was posted in the original Reason article comments. Turns out he did have a large knife and had been arrested by the local police for threatening another student at his school. Time to deport the entire family.
So, this supposed little-l libertarian wants to deport a boy and his whole family because the kid was merely arrested for a crime, even though none of the charges against him have been proven in any objective manner.
Tell us all how much of a super-duper libertarian you are.
The wealth of evidence says they need to go and it looks like that is in play. They violated their contract to remain here due to him again violating the NAP. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.
You mean, the "contract" which completely obliterates any notion of freedom of association? Weird how a small-l libertarian demands the enforcement of a contract which consists of the state violating the natural rights of citizens as well as immigrants.
If they didn’t like the terms, they shouldn’t have accepted it. It is that simple. They violated it when he violated the NAP.
The contract itself is bullshit. No small-l libertarian would defend a contract "offered" by the state (which has the monopoly on the legal use of violence) which demanded that individuals surrender their natural rights.
You’re an irrelevant authority defending a party that violated the NAP attempting to unilaterally renegotiate a contract they violated.
The contract itself is bullshit and illegitimate. Again, from a small-l libertarian perspective. The state is demanding that individuals surrender their natural rights in order to enter. That is not in the proper purview of the state to demand.
You are defending a bullshit contract. But you know this and don't care, because you aren't a small-l libertarian, you're just a troll.
He violated the NAP which has consequences per the contract they agreed to.
I can’t wait for Autumn’s “pulling at the heartstrings” article when they get deported.
You are a prince replying to the grey boxes; my tolerance has shrunk. Probably the TDS-addled lying pile of slimy shit MG next.
due to him again violating the NAP
Where has this been proven in any objective manner? All we have is the state claiming that he violated the NAP. But did he really? Weird how a small-l libertarian takes the side of the state against the individual.
All we have is the Everett police, the Everett police chief, the student that reported the crime, the Everett mayor, the ICE agents, the ICE PIO, the mother not refuting it, and the lawyer working with the family for several years not denying it and reportedly side-stepped it when asked by CNN. I know, paper thin.
All we have is an ACCUSATION that has not been proved by any objective standard. It is telling that you consider an ACCUSATION by an agent of the state to be definitive proof of a NAP violation. Tell me, how many small-l libertarians would accept that?
According to you, didn't Biden's DOJ ACCUSE many parents of violating the NAP against school boards? Why didn't you demand that they be summarily punished for their crimes?
There is a wealth of evidence you choose to ignore that the NAP violated.
Parents criticizing a school board they are forced to fund ≠ threatening a child while carrying a deadly weapon with priors that the mother and family lawyer refused to refute. But in your team D protection mind, BoAf SiDeZ.
The only proof that any of us have that this child threatened anyone, or has a "rap sheet", is the word of the police. For a small-l libertarian, you sure are a good little statist bootlicker.
Hopefully they do better when they are returned home. Maybe the kid can do something positive later in life there in Brasil.
wow are you a low IQ brainwashed far left Democrat cultist.....wow.
"Until now, the president concedes, interdiction has been "totally ineffective." Blowing up drug boats won't change that reality."
I guarantee you no one is using the drugs that are at the bottom of the sea.
That part is effective.
More "violent assault" against ICE:
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/feds-attorneys-spar-over-15-year-old-detained-by-u-s-immigration-officers/3839147/
And after ICE detained the teenager?
Difficulty: the teenager is not an illegal immigrant, he's a US citizen.
Nothing says liberty like the president executing criminals on the high seas. Only thing better would be his personal police force executing criminals on the street. And it’s only a matter of time. Baby steps. First troops in the capital, then in cities. Ignore the courts one decision at a time. Get the base whipped up into a murderous frenzy. Sow more hatred. Start with illegals. Declare drugs to be a state of emergency. All the while chanting Babbitt slogans. His defenders will be begging for blood.
Apparently, there were some survivors from the most recent attack, who were picked up by the US Navy. Will they be repatriated? Will they be given a fair trial? Will they be sent to Gitmo to rot? Will they be sent to CECOT to be tortured? Maybe they will be just "disappeared"? In Trump's America, any of those is a likely possibility.
when the failed Obozo did it, you were happy. Of course, now when a normal President does it, it is bad.
That's right folks: if you participate in a rally opposing King Trump, that means you must hate America, and/or are a communist, and/or are a terrorist.
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/mike-johnson-doesnt-hold-back-as-he-slams-no-kings-rally-we-call-it-the-hate-america-rally/
“Let’s see who shows up for that. I bet ya see pro-Hamas supporters, I bet you you see Antifa-types, I bet ya see the Marxists in full display. The people who don’t want to stand and defend the foundational truths of this republic.”
That's right - if you are opposed to the notion of an American King, you don't want to stand for the "foundational truths of the republic".
Well, will he be wrong?
The Left is all for those types of people.
The one communist present justifies calling all of the Left "commies", just as the one Nazi present justifies calling all of the Right "Nazis". Fair?
Let's assume so.
I don't care.
Oh I know.
Oh look. Legal immigrant is permitted to exercise his rights, Team Red has a sad.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna238157
I think this is called "indoctrination".
Pete Hegseth's 'warrior ethos' speech is now mandatory viewing for the entire US military
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pete-hegseths-warrior-ethos-speech-213915079.html
Oh, for the love of - sweet, sweet Jacob, and many of you here: Do none of you realize that this is less about "war on drugs" and more about crippling the finances of someone whose name is the same as a dark cigar? Or is your TDS so severe you can't see this? Where are most of the bombed boats coming from? Why is 10% of our Naval force parked in the Caribbean?
News feed and missed the link:
Seems the USN sunk a sub in the Caribbean; who, outside of the USN, would be operating a sub in that region?
Trump is exerting a - for now - limited measure of control. And until someone figures out how to convince Twenty Percent of the US population to stop smoking and snorting that crap, that's the best we can hope for.