The NRA Supports SCOTUS Petitioners Who Lost Their Gun Rights Because of Nonviolent Offenses
The cases give the justices a chance to address a constitutionally dubious policy that disarms peaceful Americans.
After pleading guilty to bank fraud and filing a false income tax return in 2015, Selim Zherka was sentenced to 37 months in federal prison and three years of supervised release, plus fines, restitution, and forfeiture. Although he completed his sentence in May 2020, he is still subject to an additional penalty: He is not allowed to exercise the constitutional right to armed self-defense.
The federal law imposing that disability, Zherka argues in a Supreme Court petition, is unconstitutional as applied to him because his criminal record does not suggest his possession of firearms would pose a danger to public safety. The case gives the Court a chance to ameliorate the injustice caused by an absurdly broad policy that deprives Americans of the right to arms even when they have no history of violence.
Since 1961, that disability has applied to anyone convicted of a crime punishable by more than a year of incarceration, no matter the nature of the offense, how long ago it was committed, or the actual sentence imposed. As I explain in my new book Beyond Control, that category encompasses myriad state and federal offenses that do not involve the use or threat of violence, such as insider trading, food stamp fraud, embezzlement, obstruction of justice, unlawful fish exports, and unauthorized movie recording.
The crime need not be especially serious, let alone violent. While Zherka's offenses involved millions of dollars, Utah social worker Melynda Vincent, who also is asking the Supreme Court to review her case, was convicted of bank fraud in 2008 because she wrote a bad check for $498 at a grocery store.
Although bank fraud can be punished by up to 30 years in prison under federal law, Vincent was sentenced to probation. But 17 years later, she still is not allowed to own a gun or even temporarily possess one.
That ban, according to three federal appeals courts, may be unconstitutional as applied to particular nonviolent offenders. But six other circuit courts have disagreed.
The latter group includes the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit, which last June rejected Zherka's Second Amendment argument. It concluded that disarming him was "consistent with this Nation's historical tradition of firearm regulation"—the constitutional test that the Supreme Court established in 2022.
In reaching that conclusion, the 2nd Circuit relied heavily on early laws that disarmed "religious minorities, political dissenters, Native Americans, and persons of color" because of "a perception that persons in those categories were inherently dangerous or non-law-abiding." Those precedents, it said, showed "legislatures could disarm classes of people that they perceived as dangerous, without any judicial scrutiny of the empirical basis for that perception."
In briefs supporting Zherka and Vincent, the National Rifle Association, the Second Amendment Foundation, and the Firearms Policy Coalition rebut that alarming assessment. They argue that "there is no tradition of disarming peaceable citizens."
Historically, the organizations note, "nonviolent criminals—including nonviolent felons—who did not demonstrate a propensity for violence retained the ability to exercise their right to keep and bear arms." In fact, "some laws expressly allowed or even required them to keep and bear arms" for militia service.
President Donald Trump should have a keen interest in this issue, since he himself lost the right to own firearms as a result of felony convictions involving fraudulent business records. Yet in Vincent's case, the Trump administration argues that the problem is already being addressed by the Justice Department's revival of a moribund relief process for people who can persuade the attorney general that their possession of firearms would not be "dangerous to public safety."
As Zherka's lawyers note, however, that iffy, discretionary process "takes as a given that it was valid to disarm an applicant initially and only asks whether the disarmament should continue." The question for the Supreme Court is whether people should have to beg for the restoration of constitutional rights they lost for no good reason.
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Scumby Chimp-Chump once more slurpports the gun-grabbers!!! Twat an udder slurprise ass usual!
PS, see this in the article...
In reaching that conclusion, the 2nd Circuit relied heavily on early laws that disarmed "religious minorities, political dissenters, Native Americans, and persons of color" because of "a perception that persons in those categories were inherently dangerous or non-law-abiding." Those precedents, it said, showed "legislatures could disarm classes of people that they perceived as dangerous, without any judicial scrutiny of the empirical basis for that perception."
SQRLSY says... ALL registered or even dedicated Demon-Crap and RePoopLicKKKunt voters are obliviously dangerously mentally deranged, and should SNOT be allowed to own or even temporarily handle weapons of ANY kind! Arms are... ONLY for us good Libertarian folks!
Any bets on how many Trump more defenders will proudly display their willful ignorance?
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Retardin' ain't easy!
Sarc swallows all team D’s narratives, amongst other things.
I've got cash sez Long Dong, Mutterkreuz, Gorbasuch, KKKavanaugh et ilkii rule that MAGAts gets guns, heads and unSupreme brown folks not so much. This underscores the crying need for a Reason donations betting app. If the kids at South Park Elementary can have one, why not subscribers?
It would be nice to restore some gun rights for those of us who haven't committed any crimes, violent or non!
Is equality with "mostly peaceful" people too much to ask?
Such as illegal immigrants!
This is rather weird. You do realize you used the word "illegal", right?
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Do I really need to explain why relying on precedents that have all been overturned is insane?
OTOH, it's nice to see the NRA defending anything other than Wayne LaPierre's personal piggy bank.
When the NRA backed Romney over Ron Paul in the primary, it was clear it was more about Wayne rubbing shoulders with the beautiful people at $5k/plate dinners.
Gun Owners of America is more loyal to 2A.
Honestly, if I'd known that back when Bush banned the importation of a rifle I was about to buy, I'd have given the money I'd saved up for it to GOA instead of getting that NRA life membership. The NRA has been a big disappointment.
You know, they actually tried joining the Heller case to sabotage it, not to advance it, thinking that if an actual 2nd amendment case did make it to the Supreme court, we'd lose. Their being part of this challenge actually worries me a bit.
ICE is illegally targeting persons of color.
bank fraud ... insider trading, food stamp fraud, embezzlement, obstruction of justice, unlawful fish exports, and unauthorized movie recording
Such an odd definition of "peaceful."
Not odd at all. "Peaceful" is not a word identical to "law-abiding". "Peaceful" means non-violent. That is, no use of force. What unlawful force was used in the case of fish exports or movie recording?
I didn't say it was identical to law-abiding.
But if you think stealing from people is an act of peace, then you're just rationalizing criminal behavior because you like criminal behavior.
There are two major offenses against other people: force and fraud. Neither are peaceful. Similarly, crimes that hinder society's ability to function also aren't peaceful. Heck, if I scream in your face obscenities - I've not engaged in anything violent, but I'm sure not doing anything peaceful, am I.
Seems you share the odd definition that Reason is using.
Nazi, caudillo fascist and MAGAt collectivists have odd notions of what constitutes "LAW." But peace hippies and libertarians are at the top of their list of things to ban, arrest, jail and shoot.
Non-violent and law-abiding the not the same.
Altruist Totalitarian defines nonwhite, jewish and latino as "violent."
No sale.
Permanently suspending some or all of a person's liberties as a result of a felony conviction is entirely consistent with the nation's history and traditions of criminal sentencing, and there's no reason to single out gun rights as special. Deprivation of liberty is perfectly fine if due process of law was observed.
Now, if you want to argue that such liberty suspensions extending beyond the custodial sentence are exercises of the general police power, and thus any Federal prohibition on felons possessing firearms must be restricted to places where it is allowed to exercise the general police power as if it were a state? Now, that I'll buy.
Exile is better.
Fine. Exile Trump.
Sorry, no. If permanently losing your gun rights were part of the individualized sentence for your particular crime, you might be on stronger ground. As a blanket rule exercised without thought, discretion or meaningful opportunity to appeal? Just no. Deprivation of rights for criminals is something that historically happened while they are incarcerated, not forever after.
"Permanently suspending some or all of a person's liberties as a result of a felony conviction is entirely consistent with the nation's history and traditions of criminal sentencing,"
Sure, but that was back when only the very worst crimes were "felonies". Back at the founding a felony conviction potentially carried the death penalty, so permanent loss of a civil liberty was regarded as a LESSER penalty.
Now that almost every crime is a felony, even crimes that wouldn't have BEEN crimes in that era, that sort of reasoning becomes questionable.
And, as Rossami points out, normally you only lost your civil rights while incarcerated. When released, you got them back.
In fact, I suspect the opportunity to strip people of their right to keep and bear arms has been a major contributor to "felony inflation".
Most states take away your right to vote if you have been convicted of any felony.
Are you really going to try to argue that the Congress that enacted the death penalty for "making, altering, forging or counterfeiting any certificate, indent, or other public security of the United States . . . with intention to defraud any person" (Crimes Act of 1790) would think bank fraud was not a serious crime?
The line between history-and-tradition "real" felonies and modern "inflated" felonies is not effectively drawn by the violent/nonviolent distinction, and while this guy is on the nonviolent side of the one distinction, he is also on the yes-a-real-felony side of the other.
As far as "normally you only lost your civil rights while incarcerated", I will point to the example of lifetime felon disenfranchisement, which was generally accepted from the Founding all the way into the 20th Century, and specifically authorized in the Reconstruction Amendments. And pointing back up to the "serious crime" issue, forgery (for purposes of fraud) was one of the specific crimes most often listed as grounds for disenfranchisement in the time between the Founding and the Civil War.
'The case gives the Court a chance to ameliorate the injustice caused by an absurdly broad policy that deprives Americans of the right to arms even when they have no history of violence.'
How about the injustice caused by absurdly broad, and intrusive, policies that deprive Americans of the right to arms because Democrats don't like guns (and don't like armed people who might not comply)?
How many Democrats have disarmed their security details?
Democrats don't dislike guns. They love guns... in the hands of people they control.
What Democrats don't like is people they do not control having guns.
It is not about guns. It is about control.
A non-violent offense is not necessarily a "peaceful" offense. White collar criminals have destroyed lives, ruined people by taking everything they have, driving them into penury and despair.
I really couldn't care less if they retain second amendment rights.
That's not what 'peaceful' means.
I reject your definition. The peace of peoples lives has been destroyed by financial ruin.
I'm tired of policies that show more compassion to criminals than victims.
Could this decision allow MJ and psilocybin users to not lose their 2A rights?
Nope. Hippies busted for hemp seeds in the sixties who fled on the realization that Ku-Klux madmen had preempted Texas state & local governments are to this day listed as felonious by Trump monkeys. Trade and production--by Christian National Socialist lights--are felonies unless bribed for or protected by Soft Machine remoras and lampreys.