Whoops—Ohio Accidentally Excludes Most Major Porn Platforms From Anti-Porn Law
Ohio lawmakers set out to block minors from viewing online porn. They messed up.
Remember when people used to say "Epic FAIL"? I'm sorry, but there's no other way to describe Ohio's new age verification law, which took effect on September 30.
A variation on a mandate that's been sweeping U.S. statehouses, this law requires online platforms offering "material harmful to juveniles"—by which authorities mean porn—to check photo IDs or use "transactional data" (such as mortgage, education, and employment records) to verify that all visitors are adults.
But lawmakers have written the law in such a way that it excludes most major porn publishing platforms.
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"This is why you don't rush [age verification] bills into an omnibus," commented the Free Speech Coalition's Mike Stabile on Bluesky.
Ohio Republican lawmakers introduced a standalone age verification bill back in February, but it languished in a House committee. A similar bill introduced in 2024 also failed to advance out of committee.
The version that wound up passing this year did so as part of the state's omnibus budget legislation (House Bill 96). This massive measure—more than 3,000 pages—includes a provision that any organization that "disseminates, provides, exhibits, or presents any material or performance that is obscene or harmful to juveniles on the internet" must verify that anyone attempting to view that material is at least 18 years old.
The bill also states that such organizations must "utilize a geofence system maintained and monitored by a licensed location-based technology provider to dynamically monitor the geolocation of persons."
Existing Ohio law defines material harmful to juveniles as "any material or performance describing or representing nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, or sado-masochistic abuse" that "appeals to the prurient interest of juveniles in sex," is "patently offensive to prevailing standards in the adult community as a whole with respect to what is suitable for juveniles," and "lacks serious literary, artistic, political, and scientific value for juveniles."
Under the new law, online distributors of "material harmful to juveniles" that don't comply with the age check requirement could face civil actions initiated by Ohio's attorney general.
Supporters of the law portrayed it as a way to stop young Ohioans from being able to access online porn entirely. But the biggest purveyors of online porn—including Pornhub and similar platforms, which allow users to upload as well as view content—seem to be exempt from the law.
Among the organizations exempted from age verification requirements are providers of "an interactive computer service," which is defined by Ohio lawmakers as having the same meaning as it does under federal law.
The federal law that defines "interactive computer service"—Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act—says it "means any information service, system, or access software provider that provides or enables computer access by multiple users to a computer server, including specifically a service or system that provides access to the Internet and such systems operated or services offered by libraries or educational institutions."
That's a bit of a mouthful, but we have decades of jurisprudence parsing that definition. And it basically means any platform where third parties can create accounts and can generate content, from social media sites to dating apps, message boards, classified ads, search engines, comment sections, and much more.
Platforms like Pornhub unambiguously fall within this category.
In fact, Pornhub is not blocking Ohio users as it has in most other states with age verification laws for online porn, because its parent company, Aylo, does not believe the law applies to it.
"As a provider of an 'interactive computer service' as defined under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, it is our understanding that we are not subject to the obligations under section 1349.10 of the Ohio Revised Code regarding mandated age verification for the 'interactive computer services' we provide, such as Pornhub," Aylo told Mashable.
I'm assuming that the exclusion of Pornhub was not intentional, given the way this law's supporters talked about it as a shield against Ohio minors being able to see any sexually oriented material online. One of the law's biggest proponents, state Rep. Josh Williams (R–Sylvania), has talked about how it would not ensnare social media platforms even though they may contain porn, so perhaps the exclusion of interactive computer services was intended for that purpose. But most major web-porn access points, including OnlyFans and webcamming platforms, also fall under the definition of interactive computer service.
I doubt this will be the end of the story. Perhaps Ohio lawmakers will amend the exceptions—although that may prove a bit difficult to do on its own, since the state was having trouble moving forward with a standalone age verification law. Or perhaps the Ohio Attorney General will be foolish enough to challenge the idea that Pornhub is an "interactive computer service."
For now, though, we can add this to ever-crowded annals of "lawmakers trying to regulate tech and the internet without understanding tech and the internet."
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Online porn consumers were about to beat the system, amongst other things.
The law should have stopped a few strokes earlier.
Pr0n addicts were pulling for a happy ending.
They don't beat around the bush.
Authorities were trying to yank these websites iff the internet.
Or parents could take responsibility for their children and leave everybody else of it. That could happen, too.
By that logic, brick-and-mortar porn stores should not be required to require ID from customers.
What about checking the ID of members?
Checking the birth date on a drivers' license in person is entirely different from collecting and storing personal info online.
Except that the way to check ID today is to scan it. Which is storing the information.
Cite?
I've never had nor seen someone digitally scan an ID for any in-person transaction. They do a quick look at the birth date and might glance at the picture.
It’s done at some grocers for alcohol sales. They scan the license instead of just looking at the date.
In IL for online tobacco and in person THC/CBD sales scanning the ID barcode is required (even to enter the premises) and, in a twist only retards can't comprehend, storing the personal information is forbidden.
But again, we're literally talking about the depths of stupidity of people who are OK with private retailers taking your birth date off of a GOVERNMENT-ISSUED ID but are worried about the government otherwise attaining the information contained in a GOVERNMENT-ISSUED ID... and ONLY when it comes to sexualizing children.
Nice strawman, mad.casual, though it does seem out of place for you.
No one is afraid of the government getting the information from stored ID verification for porn. People are, validly, concerned about data breaches by non-government, nefarious actors. You know, the one's that are more likely to perpetrate identity theft and credit card fraud.
Or for anything flammable (lighters and fuel), huffable (spray paints and solvents), or vandalism tools (paints and markers).
Must be a regional thing. Neither I nor anyone I know has ever been carded for any of those things.
Sudafed, on the other hand...
I've never had nor seen someone digitally scan an ID for any in-person transaction.
So you aren't even aware of the surveillance state when it comes to firearm or even ammo sales or transfers, alcohol or tobacco sales, edibles, car rentals, signing up for a credit card or phone service or even an email account or any of a dozen or more *other* restricted items... you're only aware and concerned about being surveilled when it applies to selling porn to minors.
I wish I could say I was surprised.
Non sequitur. Disingenuous effort to ad hominem. No argument in place.
You know damned full well that is a different kettle of fish.
I have never had my ID scanned for any of those transactions.
Wow. What a fucking stupid leap of logic, non sequitur, and ad hominem.
I replied only to Incunabulum's claim that in-person ID checking is done by scanning the ID. And I pointed out that I have never seen nor heard of anyone else experiencing that.
There is nothing in anything I have written on this topic that could imply my position on it (re: age verification for online porn access) and even less that you could use to accurately infer my position.
Wish I could say... meh, no I don't. I don't fucking care if you're surprised, or not, by the things you make up in your head.
It's done all the time for a variety of "adults only" products. Do you live in western Nebraska or something?
Nope, don't live in Nebraska. Still never had nor seen nor heard of anyone getting their ID scanned for a basic in-person, age-verification until Incunabulum mentioned it.
Which was my point.
Ctrl+f 'storing': 3 results.
Just because you fervently wish for porn producers and payment processors to be storing your information and that the law would make them do so, does not mean they are storing your information nor required to.
As with ENB, one would wonder why you are being so dishonest.
I routinely send my kids to the gas station to fetch me beer, cigs, and the latest copy of Juggs.
Just like my pappy before me.
My parents didn't smoke or drink, but I remember my friends being sent to the store with a note from Mom to buy beer and smokes.
We should, then, do away with all laws involving gun control. Let you be responsible for yourself and leave everybody else out of it.
Yes. We should.
Because every single one of them is an explicit violation of the Constitution.
As are all 'obscenity laws'.
no one cares
The federal law that defines "interactive computer service"—Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act—says it "means any information service, system, or access software provider that provides or enables computer access by multiple users to a computer server, including specifically a service or system that provides access to the Internet and such systems operated or services offered by libraries or educational institutions."
Section 230? You mean the one that explicitly says it doesn't preempt criminal law and prevents states from pursuing civil, but not criminal liability? Even at that, the Section 230 that by your own retarded precepts *didn't* protect backpage.com? That Section 230?
It's almost like you don't have the least fucking clue what the law means or intends to mean and are simply grasping at straws.
Platforms like Pornhub unambiguously fall within this category.
As you selectively quoted it, no-shit murder-for-hire advertising sites would fall within the "any platform where third parties can create accounts and can generate content, from social media sites to dating apps, message boards, classified ads, search engines, comment sections" category.
Which is why the actual law, if you ever bothered to read it, specifically doesn't exempt federal and local crimes (making it ultimately redundant at best and at worst, an implicit second-take end-around the 1A).
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Would the content creators be accountable under the law?
Don't give them ideas.
You say that like it's not common knowledge Joe Camel was sued and litigated out of existence by Janet Mangini and the FTC, 40-some attorney's general, *and* Congress and The Clinton Administration 30-some years ago.
Once again, "Operation Chokepoint" is a relatively new feature, but everything else in the "modern anti-porn crusade" is exceedingly tame even compared to the anti-smoking and prohibition crusades. Even Comstock was pretty tame.
ENB, or anyone here: why is pornography a good thing?
Don't dodge the question. Your reply should start with "Pornography is a good thing because..."
Pornography is a good thing because it provides physical pleasure to the viewer, of whom a subset get the additional physical pleasure of masturbation, or even fewer, actual sex with another human while both watch porn. It also provides freedom for both the producer and consumer of pornography.
This is COMPLETELY separate from assessing whether these benefits outweigh the negatives. I am sure you could list a lot as all of us could.
So, "provides physical pleasure" necessarily equals "is a good thing?"
Also, would you say the same thing about child pornography? It does the exact same thing you described, you realize. Is it also a good thing, for the same reasons?
If you want to argue that physical pleasure is not a good thing.....go ahead, I guess. Ascetic?
Yes child pornography provides physical pleasure. It is FAR FAR FAR outweighed by the negatives of child pornography (to the child, to society) which is why I included the second paragraph.
What about artificially generated child porn that does not involve taking advantage of any actual child? As computer generated imagery advances, the law will have to wrestle with this.
Yes child pornography provides physical pleasure.
Which you said is a good thing.
So child porn, in your view is a good thing - because it provides physical pleasure. This is completely separate from assessing benefits vs negatives.
At its core, by your argument, you're saying child porn is a good thing inherently. Because your definition of "good" is based on "provides physical pleasure." Which you admitted child porn does.
Mayhaps you'd like to rethink that definition?