How Tariffs Are Breaking the Manufacturing Industries Trump Says He Wants To Protect
Most imports to the U.S. are raw materials, intermediate parts, or equipment—the stuff that manufacturing firms need to make things.

When President Donald Trump announced a sweeping set of tariffs on nearly all imports, he promised that April 2—what the White House dubbed "Liberation Day"—would "forever be remembered as the day American industry was reborn."
That's not the way Michele Derrigo-Barnes sees it. Trump's tariffs are "killing" small American manufacturers like hers, she tells Reason.
As CEO of Plattco Corporation, a small business that makes industrial valves, Derrigo-Barnes runs the sort of blue-collar industrial production shop that Trump and his allies say they want to help. Instead of being helped, she found herself dealing with fallout from the tariff announcement: canceled orders, higher prices, and enough uncertainty to put on hold a planned expansion of the company's Plattsburgh, New York, manufacturing center on the banks of Lake Champlain.
What would she tell Trump if she got the chance? "Stop the nonsense. We've worked hard to get us to a place where we can perform well and we can take care of our customers, and this is putting that in jeopardy."
The few dozen workers at Derrigo-Barnes' company won't be the only ones in jeopardy if Trump's tariffs remain in place for the long haul. Hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs will be lost and only about a fifth as many created, according to an estimate by investment bank Goldman Sachs. Tariffs create higher prices for inputs, which in turn can reduce sales for manufacturers' outputs, leaving companies worse off. While large companies such as Apple have already successfully lobbied the White House for special treatment, smaller operations such as Plattco have little choice but to eat the costs or pass them along to consumers.
The gap between Trump's and Derrigo-Barnes' understanding of how tariffs affect American businesses is even larger than the gap between D.C. and Lake Champlain. Trump's global trade war has illustrated the folly of central planning, even when carried out by supposed populists who claim to be guided by the best interests of working-class Americans. It has revealed how little the president understands about the economy that he believes he can control, and how his protectionist impulses are hurting the very industries he claims to be helping.
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In an interview with Time to mark his first 100 days back in the Oval Office, the president offered a telling illustration of how he views the American economy.
"We're a department store, a giant department store, the biggest department store in history," Trump said. "Everyone wants to come in and take from us. They're going to come in and they're going to pay a price for taking our treasure, taking our jobs."
There are so, so, so many things wrong with this analogy. America does not resemble a department store. The 170 million people in the U.S. labor force are not the president's employees. It is not the president's job to set prices or decide what can be bought and sold.
But an even more telling and terrible analogy is hidden inside that bizarre conception of how the economy works. Trump seems to be suggesting a successful department store would be one that raises prices without regard for the consequences on its employees or customers. In his version, a store that makes a lot of sales is giving away its "treasure."
Walmart did not become the world's largest retailer by trying to punish its customers or limit sales. The people who run successful businesses understand something that Trump does not: Voluntary trade is a mutually beneficial arrangement. That's true regardless of whether the deal is between a store and its customers or a factory and its suppliers. It's also true even if one of the traders is located abroad.
Trump will fail as the country's department store manager in chief for the same reasons that central planners always fail. It's simply impossible for the White House to understand and manage trillions of dollars in cross-border trade more efficiently than individuals and businesses do. Trump certainly has no clue what equipment the Plattco Corporation needs to build its annual supply of valves, to say nothing of the millions of other transactions that are essential to building cars, appliances, and other gadgets at factories all over America.
In many cases, those transactions involve items that can't be sourced domestically. "Whether it is coffee, bananas, cocoa, minerals or numerous other products, the reality is certain things just can't be produced in the United States," Suzanne P. Clark, president and CEO of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, explained in a statement released in late April, as the organization was urging the White House to grant tariff exemptions for small businesses. "Raising prices on those products will only hurt families struggling to pay their bills."
Trump may fail for new reasons too. The White House has spent weeks pivoting between the claim that tariffs will allow the federal government to collect trillions of dollars in new revenue and the claim they are a negotiating tool to be removed once the other countries have knuckled under. Both cannot be true at once.
There is also an alarming lack of forethought on display. The day the "reciprocal" tariffs were meant to take effect, one week after they were first announced, Trump suddenly announced a three-month pause in their implementation. That decision, according to The Wall Street Journal, was made after Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent cornered Trump while tariff-crazy trade adviser Peter Navarro was temporarily indisposed.
Economic data suggest the tariffs are already discouraging investment and slowing imports. Higher prices and supply shortages loom on the horizon. For businesses that depend on imports, the chaos and uncertainty are creating huge headaches.
Victor Owen Schwartz, the owner of VOS Sections, a New York–based importer and distributor of wines and spirits, says the tariffs have made it impossible for him to plan ahead. (He is also a plaintiff in a lawsuit filed in April that challenges the administration's authority to impose tariffs without congressional approval.)
"Could you imagine if I had a supplier and every time I talk to them, they gave me a different price?" he told Reason in an April interview. "This is the equivalent of that."
And that's no way to run a department store—or a country.
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International trade is essential to American manufacturers like Plattco, whose industrial airlock valves are used by other blue-collar industries, such as mining and shipping operations. About half of the company's 55 employees work in the plant, explains Derrigo-Barnes, while the rest handle sales and overhead.
The products they sell are convenient metaphors for a large swath of American manufacturing in the third decade of the 21st century: advanced pieces of engineering that link other equipment, all working seamlessly to allow the efficient transfer of goods from place to place.
Plattco's valves themselves contain dozens of different parts: a body, an arm, a cover, a seat, a flapper, air cylinders, ball bearings, a shaft, bearings and bearing screws, air hoses, a plug, a rod end, more screws, pins, a link, gaskets, washers, and more. Many of those parts are manufactured abroad, and the final product is assembled at the company's facility in Plattsburgh.
"We do not have the space, the machinery, or the people to be able to meet all of our demand," Derrigo-Barnes explains. Imports help fill the gap, so Plattco can sell more than what it produces domestically. Those extra sales benefit the company's bottom line, pay salaries, and allow more customers to get what they need for their own businesses.
"The only way we would be able to make everything in-house would be millions of dollars of investments, which would take us years and a lot of money," she says. "I understand the philosophy that we want to have everything American-made, but it's not something that anybody is going to be able to just pick up and do tomorrow."
The same is true of America's manufacturing economy as a whole. More than half the imports to the U.S. are raw materials, intermediate parts, or equipment—the stuff that manufacturing firms need to make things—rather than finished goods.
Those imports are essential to American manufacturers—which are flourishing, despite the narrative of doom and decline that many politicians have been pushing. Domestic manufacturing output is higher today than it was in 1994 (when the North American Free Trade Agreement was signed) and higher than it was in 2001 (when China joined the World Trade Organization). Meanwhile, average wages for manufacturing workers (excluding managers) have doubled since 1999, outpacing inflation.
It's true that manufacturing employment has declined in recent decades. In fact, the decline isn't even all that recent—the raw number of U.S. manufacturing jobs dropped steadily from the late 1970s through the early 2010s, due to a combination of factors including automation, outsourcing, and the simple fact that fewer Americans want factory jobs when higher paying, less backbreaking work is available. The number of manufacturing jobs has been increasing over the past decade, but tariff advocates don't want to talk about that either.
Higher tariffs on raw materials and component parts will put all of those positive trends at risk.
The "reciprocal" tariffs that Trump unveiled on April 2 would, if they're fully implemented, reduce the economy by about 0.8 percent and cost an estimated 671,000 jobs, according to an analysis by the Tax Foundation. A constant flurry of changes, pauses, and exemptions makes the damage hard to predict, though. They may have been amended, postponed, reimplemented, reconfigured, or canceled entirely by the time you are reading this—it is impossible to know what the White House will decide on a whim.
In its April survey of manufacturers, the New York Federal Reserve reported "a level of pessimism that has only occurred a handful of times in the history of the survey." In the section of the report dealing with what the Federal Reserve calls "forward-looking indicators"—that is, what businesses expect the next six months to look like—the results were particularly grim. Manufacturers expected to see fewer orders, longer delivery times, declining inventories, and lower levels of employment. About the only lines pointed upward were their expectations for prices, which tariffs will inflate.
In a separate survey of manufacturers by the Institute for Supply Management, responses to the tariffs were overwhelmingly negative. "Tariff whiplash is causing us major issues with customers," including fewer orders, one machinery firm reported. (Businesses that respond to the survey are kept anonymous.) "There is a lot of concern about the inflationary impacts from tariffs in our industry. Domestic producers are charging more for everything because they can," said a fabricated metal producer. Overall, the institute concluded that "demand and production retreated and destaffing continued, as panelists' companies responded to an unknown economic environment."
Looking ahead, Trump's tariffs will increase American manufacturers' costs by 5 percent to 15 percent, an April analysis by Goldman Sachs concluded. As supply chains shift in response, American manufacturers could add about 100,000 jobs, the same study found—but those gains would be swamped by an estimated 500,000 jobs lost in other industries due to higher costs throughout the supply chain.
By mid-April, those job losses were already starting. Mack Trucks, a century-old Pennsylvania-based manufacturer of big rigs and other heavy-duty vehicles, announced plans for up to 350 layoffs. A company spokesperson said the decision was driven by "market uncertainty about freight rates and demand" and "the impact of tariffs."
The outcry from manufacturers inverts the traditional model for understanding how protectionist policies get enacted. Historically, tariffs would be sought by domestic producers who want protection from foreign competition.
What's happening now is different. Trump is forcing his tariffs on American companies that, by and large, were not asking for them, do not want them, and are now begging the White House for exemptions from them.
"Many manufacturers in the United States already operate with thin margins," Jay Timmons, head of the National Association of Manufacturers, noted in a statement about Trump's tariff announcement. "The high costs of new tariffs threaten investment, jobs, supply chains and, in turn, America's ability to outcompete other nations and lead as the preeminent manufacturing superpower."
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Trump does not seem to be listening. Asked in that same Time interview whether he'd be pleased if tariff rates of 20 percent or more lasted for five years or longer, the president said he would consider that outcome a "total victory."
Perhaps Trump should have tried running a department store or a factory before deciding he could centrally plan the entire economy from the Oval Office.
Amid the shifting, contradictory justifications for the trade war emanating from the White House, bear in mind that Trump's fantastical beliefs about tariffs are deeply held. He will be one of the last people in the country to accept reality, long after rising prices, slower growth, increased job losses, and a sagging stock market have convinced the rest of America that high tariffs are a mistake.
Trump's tariffs, like all policies, must be judged by their results and not their intentions. The president is not guiding a rebirth of American industry. He is overseeing a ritual sacrifice to the false god of central planning.
This article originally appeared in print under the headline "Made in America, Broken by Trump."
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The republicans are toast.
You.
Are.
Full
Of.
Shit.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Great comeback!!
Why do ignorant lefty shits take handles which are lies about their supposed intelligence?
The Average Dude and 5:56 are Shrike or Sarc samefagging their own socks.
They’re both huge fags, so that makes sense.
He didn’t need to do much. 5.56 is a leftist retard.
Like you.
The whole reason something is called U.S. Manufacturing is that it is manufactured in the USA.
Which means Tariffs would have nothing to do with it.
Endless indoctrinated lies into sheeple minds.
Raw materials, fuckwit. Plus a million other reasons why trying to be self-sufficient in manufacturing is incredibly stupid – not to mention, requiring the kind of coercion you supposedly oppose.
If there is one thing the US isnt known for it for sure isn’t the amount of raw resources in the country.
Fucking dumbass shrike.
There are goods and raw materials that aren’t found in America. Plus there are parts used by American manufacturers that are cheaper to source overseas than produce in-house.
Your ignorance about supply chains is as vast and deep as your ignorance about economics.
Nelson keeps saying things that are really simple and really dumb. That’s the level of his arguments.
Be specific. The article doesn’t discuss.
And which parts? Because a lot of the price delta in manufacturing is price delta in regulation, not labor.
But please continue to prove your ignorance buddy. Please tell me about manufacturing supply chains. Your experience reading about it on MSNBC at Starbucks. Not like I’m in the industry lol.
He has no idea. He just repeats what MSNBC says.
“ Be specific. The article doesn’t discuss.”
Do you like to cook? Vanilla is just one of the common spices that don’t grow domestically. Do you like coffee? Also doesn’t grow in the US (except Hawaii). How about a nice dessert? Chocolate is another. Maybe a nice banana split on a hot summer day? Nope, bananas don’t grow here, either. Maybe you’d like a nice silk shirt? Nope. Or some of the various minerals necessary for semiconductors? Nope. Hell, the semiconductors themselves, used in almost anything with a computer? Nope.
I know you have that dangerous combination of vast ignorance, small intellect, and an unshakable faith in the fringiest of ideologies, but try to find out what the world is really like rather than taking anything ZeroHedge and Breitbart say as gospel.
“ And which parts? Because a lot of the price delta in manufacturing is price delta in regulation, not labor”
This is yet another idiotic belief you hold. Labor in places like Vietnam, India, and Indonesia are 1/10 what they are in the US. Literally the largest single input to production cost is labor and it costs 10x as much here.
Even the most deranged anti-regulation zealot has never pegged regulations as a 10x cost multiplier.
Are there unnecessary and ridiculous regulations? Absolutely. There are many. But they don’t hold a candle to the difference in costs between US labor and foreign labor. And, I will note, the quality standards are exactly the same, so there’s no QC advantage in the US.
“ Please tell me about manufacturing supply chains.”
Why? It’s never done any good. I have made numerous detailed posts pointing out how ignorant you are about something that I did for over a decade, but you still say the intellectual equivalent of “Nuh-uh!”. I have a LOT of experience in this field. I have no idea what you do for a living, but it is clearly not something that requires any knowledge of economics, budgeting, comparative financial advantage, or heavy thinking.
“ Not like I’m in the industry lol.”
You aren’t. There is no way someone as ignorant as you about the most basic aspects of international supply chains has any job in wholesale manufacturing.
Is it as stupid as being 100% reliant on a chink who says he wants you dead?
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
You’re so cool.
You’re such a steaming pile of lefty shit.
Lay off the kiddie porn Shrike. You’re getting dumber by the day.
Not shrike, you fuckwit.
Companies get relief from tariff if they move production to America.
Raising tariffs and lowering corporate taxes is the incentive. It worked for others which caused the US to hemorrhage production overseas. The idea of being paper shufflers and letting others make what is necessary has proven a failure with Covid. Attacking the raw materials is less advantageous but this part is for fast revenue intake.
“ It worked for others which caused the US to hemorrhage production overseas.”
The reason production went overseas is because labor there (roughly 50% of production costs) is 1/10 what it is here. The landed cost of goods produced overseas is lower than the cost of production domestically by a large margin. If you cut every single regulation that exists, it still wouldn’t make production in America cheaper. If you also cut corporate taxes to zero on top of that, it still wouldn’t make it worthwhile. Plus cutting those taxes would add more deficit to the US budget.
“ The idea of being paper shufflers and letting others make what is necessary has proven a failure with Covid.”
How, exactly, was it “proven a failure”?
“ Attacking the raw materials is less advantageous but this part is for fast revenue intake.”
And every dollar that goes into the government’s pocket comes from American consumers. The companies aren’t going to take a loss on their sales, they’ll just raise prices. They’ll make about the same amount, but we’ll all pay a lot more.
And here Nelson keeps pushing the well known narrative as truth without bothering to do any inspection of his claims. A claim resting on the belief the majority cost of goods is labor, it is not.
Nelson, have you dont a single job that produces anything?
And then this repeated false claim:
And every dollar that goes into the government’s pocket comes from American consumers.
PPI and CPI laugh at you. Even the Atl Fed admitted consumers only saw 5% of the tariffs increases in the first term. But you repeat this known lie as truth. Why? You like proving your inability to learn?
As I have pointed out to you (repeatedly), the price increases won’t show up until the products enter the country and are charged the tariff. That is 90-120 days after the order was placed. Once those items make it onto the shelves, the companies will either have to raise prices or sell everything at a loss. The fact that you think that an added cost to a company doesn’t effect the price they place on that item is proof that you don’t understand the most basic economic equation: sale price – cost = profit. If you increase the price, there is no way to prevent loss of profits except to raise the price.
You seem to think that products just magically appear in a warehouse in the US immediately after they are ordered. News flash: it takes months for those things to be made and shipped. 90-120 days. That’s when you will see the price increases (or shortages, or both), when those products enter the country and have the added cost of the tariffs slapped on them.
The additional aspect of your ignorance is that to reverse shortages will also take 90-120 days. It’s like trying to stop a moving train: it takes a long time for the brakes to actually stop the train, then it takes a whole lot more time to get it back up to speed.
Instant production isn’t a thing.
50% is labor!?!?!?
LOLWUT?
Obviously someone else who has never worked in mass produced goods. That is pretty standard for factory costs. That’s what determines the price the factory charges for you to secure production at their facility.
It’s probably less for specialty products, since if you need custom molds or processes you have to buy those yourself, so the percentage that is labor would drop. Some of those molds cost a small fortune.
According to Trump and his defenders, economists like Adam Smith and Milton Friedman were leftists for promoting the idea of comparative advantage and opportunity cost. Economics is leftist as is anyone who promotes it. These people are willfully ignorant and proud of it.
Nelson summarized….
– US corporate taxes GOOD.
– Foreign import taxes BAD.
Do you people work for Foreign special interest groups or what?
Why would they do that? It would take years to build enough capacity to onshore all that production and by then the tariffs will have wrecked things so badly the tariff-lovers won’t be back in power for decades. Since building a new factory takes 3-5 years and costs millions, it’s better for the companies that can afford it to wait out the stupidity.
Plus, those factories will just go out of business as soon as the tariffs disappear. So where is the advantage for a company to take on long-term debt to boost production in America? Why would they saddle themselves with a decade or so of debt when they know that as soon as this idiot leaves the White House, tariffs will disappear?
How much of US industry do you think comes from overseas? Probably think it is 100% based on your ignorance.
I never said anything of the sort. It depends on the industry and the product, doesn’t it? I know that you desperately want to reduce everything to an all/nothing, good/bad, Trump/evil dichotomy. But only children think the world works like that.
Cars, for example? Tesla has the highest percentage of American-made components. Depending on the model, that number is between 45% and 70%. If you are actually interested in reducing your level of ignorance, here is a detailed article about the supply chain involved in an iPhone, which incidentally emphasizes how dumb Trump is to think that making iPhones here would be such a win for American manufacturing:
https://www.supplychain247.com/article/apple-iphone-global-supply-chain-where-parts-are-manufactured
How much do you think you can ‘import’.
Without making anything of value to pay for those imports?
It’s a recipe for bankruptcy and despair as-if that wasn’t exactly what the US is going through.
The US taxation code has to be FAIR between the two markets. NOT 0% for dependency and as high as 85% for self-sustaining. Otherwise you end up being entirely nothing but a liability to the world. Which is precisely about where the US is going.
The idiots where those who setup Foreign special interest laws for Foreign markets in the first place. Tax-Exempt. Subsidized Shipping, etc, etc… and created an imbalance so large it literally about killed US productivity all together.
Raw materials are a national security issue. Not one country ever won a war because they had a gold standard. Not one country will ever win a war because they have a strategic reserve of Bitcoin. Or a money system based on banks.
The North won the Civil War because they could produce lumber, iron, oats, leather, beef, wheat, wool, etc and turn them into something useful. After the war, unsurprisingly, the US decided that the $300 men like JP Morgan were the real heroes – so turned the greenback into gold rather than those real commodities (not coincidentally also produced by the soldiers who served rather than those who didn’t).
The Great Depression ended because starting in May 1938 the US started stockpiling strategic materials. That jacked up prices and got people back to work in mines, forests, and farms. Those stockpiles were also the basis of Lend-Lease.
Obviously that is done by monetizing them not by tariffs. But DeRps (and Reason) can’t comprehend anything other than a corrupt way of doing things and they never will.
Raw materials are a national security issue. Not one country ever won a war because they had a gold standard. Not one country will ever win a war because they have a strategic reserve of Bitcoin. Or a money system based on banks.
You stupid pile of shit, the Allies won WWII with a near zero access to rubber. I know your mommy told you that you were smart, but she lied, asshole.
Non-optional, existential, wars are simply economic competitions; nothing else matters. The competitor which delivers and uses the most effective materiel to the front lines wins, being the one which also prevents the enemy from doing so.
Nothing else matters; not the fighting spirit of the troops, their dedication to the Fuhrer, or Hirohito, nor any other bullshit; all falls before gunpowder, lead, steel and nuclear weapons.
Lol.
Actual data shows manufacturing is not decreasing but actually up. But keep going Eric. You’re doing great.
Hey Eric, why not follow up on your last car prices article?
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/06/business/car-prices-steady-despite-tariffs-cost
Why are wholesale prices down?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/05/15/ppi-report-wholesale-cost-drop-april-inflation/83650842007/
Why is inflation slowing?
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/13/economy/us-cpi-consumer-inflation-april
You would think after being wrong for months you would look at the data instead of economic apocalypse narratives from corporate media.
Oh it’s because bohem is a Marxist fag.
Yes. Yes he is.
Confirmation Bias (Pronounced “con·fir·ma·tion bi·as”) – It’s not just a way of life for sycophants.. it’s also a lifeline.
You are the proof
Yes, CNN and USAToday are well known for confirming pro-Trump policy bias. Derp
Okay. This has to be a sarc sock. Calls actual data confirmation bias lol.
Have there been any signs of drunk posting? That’s a dead giveaway.
The obsession with being thought of as “smart” gives it away too.
Stupid piles of lefty shit (pronounced “stupid piles of lefty shit”) – is just a way for Stupid piles of lefty shit to prove to be stupid piles of lefty shit.
Thank your for doing so. And, please, make your family proud and your dog happy: Fuck off and die.
But also make sure I’m the only one to know where they stuffed your remains in the ground. I’d really not prefer to stand in line to piss on your grave, slimy pile of lefty shit.
If Boehm had any ethics he’d be embarrassed.
“ Lol.
Actual data shows manufacturing is not decreasing but actually up. But keep going Eric. You’re doing great.”
Maybe you should read the article? He literally wrote that:
“ Domestic manufacturing output is higher today than it was in 1994 (when the North American Free Trade Agreement was signed) and higher than it was in 2001 (when China joined the World Trade Organization). Meanwhile, average wages for manufacturing workers (excluding managers) have doubled since 1999, outpacing inflation.
It’s true that manufacturing employment has declined in recent decades. In fact, the decline isn’t even all that recent—the raw number of U.S. manufacturing jobs dropped steadily from the late 1970s through the early 2010s, due to a combination of factors including automation, outsourcing, and the simple fact that fewer Americans want factory jobs when higher paying, less backbreaking work is available. The number of manufacturing jobs has been increasing over the past decade, but tariff advocates don’t want to talk about that either.”
You can’t even get it right when the information is literally right in front of you.
Jesus Nelson. Everything you do here is to prove you’re a fucking idiot.
So is your claim the manufacturing industry isn’t breaking now? Youre disagreeing with Boehm? Lol.
God damn you’re a fool.
I never said the US manufacturing sector is breaking. I said production of mass market goods costs too much in America for companies to efficiently manufacture them here.
There is a vibrant US manufacturing industry, but it is more custom and specialty products (which involve expensive machinery and/or molds regardless of where it is produced), products that need a quick turnaround (the largest disadvantage to overseas production is the 3-4 month lead times), products for smaller companies that don’t hit minimums for overseas mass market factories, and products that need vibrant IP protections that are found in developed countries.
For example, my company had two distinct categories of products. Our mass market products were all produced in China (and later Vietnam and India, a move that I was a part of assessing and implementing). The retail unit price of those ranged from $5-$100 and none of them had any technology that wasn’t readily available worldwide. Our net margins ran roughly 70%. Our technical products were all produced in Italy (it was an Italian company). The retail unit price of those ran around $700 and that had a lot of proprietary IP. Our net margins ran roughly 10% (which is terrible), but our IP is still unique to our company and still leads the market. And I retired almost a decade ago.
Try to understand the details of what people say, rather than trying to reduce it to a caricature. There is a difference between mass market products, where orders run in the tens to hundreds of thousands of units per order, and specialty or IP-heavy products, where the orders are much smaller. There are a variety of reasons why domestic manufacturing for some products is desirable, but margins and profits aren’t it.
Correct, Biden did a great job reshoring jobs. Just keep in mind Biden was using subsidies because tariffs harm the poor pathetic peasants like you.
I can’t imagine being poor in America…that’s why I tip 25% so you people keep working instead of starting a revolution. If you are a good little worker and keep back-sass to a minimum I will even pay for your medicine so you don’t have a heart attack. 😉
New rule: people who get government handouts or subsidized paychecks have to write thank you notes to people who pay taxes and buy stuff at market prices.
We are a consumer spending economy…if poor people don’t buy crap nobody will make any money. Who do you think shops at Walmart and eats at McDonalds and drives crappy Fords and pays for utilities??
People who know how to stay wealthy?
You have a poor persons imagination of how a rich person should live.
I’m worth $2 million which is at the low end of wealth for my peer group. I support Medicaid expansion because I know my wealth could be easily wiped out by a health issue whereas my friend that is a partner at a law firm will make a million dollars a year until he dies…he pays for his health care out of pocket and then gets reimbursed. He has no problem paying $200k for an emergency surgery. His primary residence costs $10k a month and he “owns” it.
You’re likely on welfare and don’t tip at all. That’s typical of your kind.
LMFAO…
STEALING harms the poor
…but STEALING from ? for corporations/subsidies is A-Okay! /s
Do you have trouble tying your shoes too?
Fuck off and die, asshole.
All these Trump led, not judge led, constitutional crisis unfolded on Friday.
Molly and Charlie swore Trump was ignoring the constitution and committing crimes. Let’s see what scotus says…
Freedom of speech ignore by not giving AP total access. Scotus says….. not the first amendment.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/06/associated-press-ban-trump-white-house-00393216
Molly and Charlie say DOGE is unconstitutional and criminal for auditing SSA and reviewing files with PPI. SCOTUS says…. not a crime or unconstitutional.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-rules-doge-can-access-social-security-information
Good work professors. Youre doing great.
Speaking if judges. One has stranded 6 illegal criminals and DHS agents in a small African naval base due to his illegal order not to house criminal illegal aliens in foreign countries despite the law allowing 3rd party deportation when countries refuse repatriation. The list of crimes for these wonderful illegals…
Enrique Arias Hierro, a Cuban national, who was convicted in 1999 of attempted second-degree murder and robbery and in 2007 for kidnapping, robbery and impersonating a police officer, earning him a 15-year prison sentence.
Jose Manuel Rodriguez-Quinones, another Cuban national convicted in 2008 of arson and cocaine trafficking; in 2020 of illegal possession of a firearm; and in 2022 of attempted first-degree murder, earning him a four-year prison sentence.
Thongxay Nilakout, a Laotian national, who was convicted in 1995 for the first-degree murder of a German tourist in California — and sentenced to life in prison without parole.
Jesus Munoz-Gutierrez, a citizen of Mexico, who was convicted in 2005 of second-degree murder for stabbing his then-roommate with a knife and later sentenced to 25 years in prison.
Kyaw Mya, of Myanmar, who was convicted in 2019 for repeatedly sexually assaulting a minor from 2011 to 2017 starting when the victim was 7 years old. Mya was later sentenced to 10 years in prison.
Nyo Myint, also of Myanmar, who was convicted in 2020 of first-degree sexual assault involving a victim mentally and physically incapable of resisting. He was sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Tuan Thanh Phan, of Vietnam, who was convicted in 2001 of first-degree murder after he “randomly” discharged a firearm into a crowd following a gang dispute and later sentenced to 22 years in prison.
Dian Peter Domach, the only Sudanese national in the group, who was convicted in 2014 of armed robbery and sentenced to 14 years in prison.
Good work judge.
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/06/06/a-federal-judge-just-stranded-ice-agents-overseas-in-hellish-conditions-n2190105
The type of hard working immigrants the US deserves.
Five posts in thirty minutes, three of which are just copypasta unrelated to the article. A sad sad life you obviously have.
Completely topped by the sad sad life of resorting to nothing but personal attacks when a leftards BS gets proven wrong.
It’s another one of Sarcasmic’s sockpuppets. I guess he’s sober enough to remember some passwords right now.
Lol.
Here Scott admits to being a retarded one finger typer who takes 6 minutes per post apparently.
Scott also admits he has the reading comprehension of a retarded one finger typer as 3 of the post directly address Boehms idiocy and reliance on narratives. So my ratio is more than yours buddy.
Scottie isn’t a smart person.
His posts are fine. But yours have offered nothing of value. As you are of no value.
I suggest suicide.
Remember when you wept for Elian Gonzalez?? And now you apparently don’t want Cubans coming here because they are criminals?!? Such a head scratcher. 😉
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Cubans are pussies…we must treat them like babies because they can’t fight for their freedom like we expect every other country to do. What’s weird is letting foreign pussies set policy…I still can’t believe we did that for decades with Cuban “exiles”?!? Trump finally bullied the GOP to come to its senses and now Lil’ Marco has even fallen in line.
There are so, so, so many things wrong with this analogy. America does not resemble a department store.
It sure as fuck does resemble a department store. The largest employers now are: WalMart, Amazon (which means warehouse, drivers – not their HQ type jobs), UPS, Home Depot, Target, Kroger, Starbucks, Marriott. This does not include the shit ton of employees of franchises – like McDonalds, 7-Eleven, Pizza Hut, Subway, Taco Bell, Ace Hardware, Maaco, Jiffy Lube – who quite deliberately present to customers AS IF they are employees of the name on the franchise door – some of whom would be on that list of largest employers if they were actually that.
What do they have in common? No jobs that are worth a shit. No increase in pay for increases in productivity. No career ladder worth a shit. If those are the major employers in a town (and commuter suburbs are often that) a kids ONLY chance at a better job is to go to college and network into an entirely different employer that doesn’t even hire from the companies above for their entry level. If a mid-career person from a real company loses their job – in a town where those above are the only jobs – then there is no network either so the only advice is ‘go deep into debt and learn to code’. A new young immigrant from a shithole country will have more experience having seen real work being done around them – even if they weren’t undercutting the pay as well – so of course America is still a better place for immigrants than for young people born here.
You want to know why populism appeals? Because that above is PRECISELY the shit that most of America resembles.
At least some of the businesses promote from within. And since states like mine have ridiculous minimum wage laws, there is no room for raises at lower levels of employment because of democrat cause wage compression.
You should really educate yourself. I don’t have time to straighten you out on everything. But if you’re struggling this hard, swallow your pride, admit you don’t know what you’re talking about, and I will see what I can do for you.
It’s ok to ask for help.
The largest employer is the U.S. government.
Well golly. When the alternative is Walmart Amazon and Starbucks, maybe that’s one reason ‘libertarian’ doesn’t sell as well as ideologues think it should.
Course Rs want that too. Best way to get volunteer mercenaries for permawar is to have alternatives of crappy jobs or jail (which is also bigger ’employer’ than any of above)
America…brought to you by the Bush family. Oops.
It wasn’t much better in 2000. The largest employers then were: WalMart (by a long long way), GM, McDonalds, UPS, Ford, GE, Sears, IBM, Kroger, JC Penney
All of those manufacturers had been on borrowed time for over a decade re manufacturing employment in the US. That is inevitable when the reserve currency is in a floating exchange rate system. That requires trade deficits to supply currency – which squeezes manufacturing since their export opportunities diminish. It rewards finance (the creator of the reserve currency) and retail (the venue for consumption of imports). Retail can create jobs but always crappy ones where productivity never results in pay increases. Finance quickly eliminated job creation via ATM’s (which eliminated a lot of crappy jobs) and by eliminating productive lending (why lend money to expand production if it can’t be exported? – instead lending is to increase asset prices)
That process didn’t start in 2000. It started in 1980 Im sure you don’t really give a shit about why that happens because your sole interest is being a partisan tool.
And don’t even get me started on how fucking stupid this libertarian obsession with tariffs is. IT’S THE PERMANENT TRADE DEFICITS you twit. Even an article that could have some promise talking about a small manufacturer and global supply chains can’t even mention the real issue. Because there is nothing in your sack of shit philosophy that even understands that. Just like Trump.
And don’t even get anyone started on how fucking stupid you are.
I try to straighten him out, but it doesn’t do much good.
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TARIFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can he stop being a dictator already.
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/dhs-secretary-noem-ends-controversial-and-costly-quiet-skies-program
The actual data indicates that manufacturing is doing quite well. But Drumph and tariffs!! STFU Boehm.
So true. Anecdotes prove nothing. They’re just leftist lies.
What does the data say sarc?
As I pointed out to Jesse above, he said exactly that in the article.
No honest person gives a shit about anything lying Jesse says. If he’s not lying he’s spreading the lies of others. And any “facts” he shares are cherry picked and full of omissions. If he was a prosecutor he’d have a reputation for withholding and planting evidence.
They should probably hire an editor to make sure the headlines aren’t so ridiculous then…
So you agree the headline is bullshit and the claim is bullshit? Lol.
Nuance just isn’t a part of your world, is it? The US manufacturing industry is more specialized and relies on more components from overseas. The added costs that tariffs on those inputs cause result in smaller margins or higher prices.
It’s not that US manufacturing is broken. It’s that the equilibrium that existed before, where US production was growing, is ring wrecked by tariffs. The hit to margins and profits can have very detrimental effects on the sector.
And it’s a completely self-inflicted wound.
wonder why there is no discussion of the impact of all the regulations which drive up the costs of US manufacturers?
Because Reason is leftist. They just want cheap shit. They don’t understand that high taxes are what makes a nation wealthy.
Ideas™ !
Really, really stupid ideas.
“ wonder why there is no discussion of the impact of all the regulations which drive up the costs of US manufacturers?”
They do, and that is discussed often here. The problem is it isn’t nearly enough to make the cost of mass production here competitive with overseas.
There’s a very simple way to compare how much it costs to make something overseas and compare it, directly, to how much it costs to make it here:
“What Is Landed Cost?
Landed cost is the entire cost of bringing a product from its origin to its destination. It encompasses more than the cost of purchase.
This total cost covers:
Product cost: Cost paid to the supplier.
Shipping charges: Freight, handling, and delivery charges.
Customs duties and taxes: Tariffs on imports and local taxes.
Insurance: Against loss or damage in transit.
Additional fees: Inspection, documentation, and port fees.”
https://www.dripcapital.com/en-us/resources/blog/landed-cost
How much in regulations did your hero Biden add to regulatory costs Nelson?
Your assertion that 5T in regulatory costs have a smaller effect than an estimated 200B in tariffs is wild.
The fact is you are a globalist. Make domestic goods expensive, export US dollars globally. The same failed system we’ve had for decades. And you demand to keep it. Like a good leftist.
I didn’t think Biden was a particularly good President. You are projecting opinions onto me again that I have never held.
If you want to talk about regulatory costs, try to be honest. First, $5 trillion is ridiculous. Second, eliminating all regulation is insane. While there are plenty of unnecessary and excessive regulations (just look at the nuclear power industry for prime examples), the added profits that eliminating them would provide don’t offset the added cost that tariffs impose.
Your loaded “globalist” accusation is nonsense. I don’t care where things are made or who makes them. Efficiency and production costs are what makes everything less expensive, from cars to houses to groceries to clothes. If that efficiency could be achieved by producing things domestically, I would love it.
But we are the wealthiest country in the world with a high cost of living and a workforce that won’t accept the wages that it would take to make that happen. I’m perfectly fine with having our companies make more money and hire more people in the US to help run the company by having production happen overseas. I don’t think that making things cost more is a good idea for consumers.
The difference between us is I care about results. I care about the impact on Americans as a whole. You have some emotional attachment to domestic production. I care about domestic prosperity, which means having high-wage jobs and cheaper products for Americans. If that requires overseas production, so be it. I don’t think that reducing American prosperity is justified by feelings and emotions like you do.
“ The same failed system we’ve had for decades. And you demand to keep it”
You mean the “failed system” that has made us the richest and most powerful nation in the world? Yeah, why would I want to keep doing something so successful?
I care about results. You care about feelings.
often discussed here? where? companies look to off shore to save money. Labor costs are small in comparison to all the regulations and red tape imposed by government. That is the problem which needs to be addressed.
You’ll find approximately zero people here who will say regulations are fine and not to be worried about. That’s a red herring used by liars who want to distract from the costs and effects of the import taxes being unconstitutionally imposed by their god emperor Trump.
“ Labor costs are small in comparison to all the regulations and red tape imposed by government”
If you believe that, you are clueless.
Lies. Everyone knows that taxes make a nation prosper. Especially import taxes. The more expensive imports are, the stronger a nation becomes. Prosperity does not come from specialization and comparative advantage. No it comes from self sufficiency. Wealth is not measured in stuff. That’s stupid. Money is wealth. So fuck tReason and their leftist bullshit. They just want cheap shit. Taxes are how we become wealthy. The higher the better.
Poor sarcbot.
Also don’t forget – They (i.e. other countries) do it (i.e. tariffs) to US… so we Must do it (i.e. reciprocal) to THEM!! Didn’t we all learn this sound way of thinking in our fourth grade school yards??
Agreed. Reason Sucks. Buncha lefty retards. And all those intellects and thinkers – whatta they know?
So true. When other countries have high taxes on imports it’s not fair. Not only that, but it makes them richer. If we are going to compete with the rest of the world we need high taxes too. Or they will win.
Ah yes, the timeless wisdom of bending over farther while other nations economically assrape you — all in the name of appearing “grownup.” Remarkable how many self-proclaimed adults seem to believe that sovereign nations should operate on the moral code of a preschool sharing circle.
Let’s be clear: tariff wars are not some childish tit-for-tat. They’re tools — imperfect, yes, but sometimes necessary — for defending national interests in a global system where everyone else is already playing hardball. When another country imposes tariffs on your exports, fails to open its markets, or manipulates currency, failing to respond isn’t high-minded restraint. It’s abdication.
But no, please — tell me more about how reciprocal policy is just “schoolyard logic.” You know who else believes in reciprocity? Every functioning state in history. Only in certain oxygen-starved corners of the internet do people pretend that economic self-defense is somehow brutish or beneath us.
And your beloved “intellects and thinkers” that we’re supposedly sneering at? It’s not the real thinkers who are the issue — it’s the self-declared intellectuals and credential-waving midwits who parrot half-digested theories they barely understand, using them as fig leaves for cowardice, inertia, and smug posturing. Disregarding them isn’t anti-intellectualism — it’s a rejection of pretentious mediocrity masquerading as wisdom.
So spare us the faux-sophistication. A nation under a continuous economic attack that refuses to respond out of some misplaced sense of moral superiority isn’t being wise — it’s being ass raped while congratulating itself for being virtuous. And its citizens pay the price for that pose.
You two are genuinely the biggest retards ever to post.
*unmutes the bad faith Canadian*
I never said tariffs aren’t good politics. They are however terrible economics.
As far as your lie about every functioning state having reciprocal tariffs goes, two counter examples are the US and the UK after WWII.
Back on mute you go you lying sack of Canadian shit.
You dont mute anybody nor argue in good faith.
If tariffs are terrible economics why do you support foreign tariffs buddy?
What’s funny is the post ww2 tariffs have been explained to you dozens of times already but you can’t make it past your bumper sticker.
LOL @ “ummute”
You never muted anyone, you retarded attention whore.
Anyhoo… your invocation of the post-WWII U.S. and U.K. as “counterexamples” to reciprocal tariffs is, at best, an ill-informed misapplication of history and, more likely, a bad-faith attempt to derail the discussion with contextually irrelevant trivia.
Yes, it’s technically true that the United States and the United Kingdom pursued non-reciprocal trade policies after WWII. But to present that as a rebuttal to modern reciprocal tariffs is deeply misleading. The postwar period was a unique historical moment — marked by U.S. economic hegemony, the urgent need to rebuild war-ravaged allies, and a broader geopolitical strategy to contain communism and stabilize the global order. Generous trade access and the Marshall Plan weren’t normal policy; they were exceptional acts of statecraft made possible by overwhelming U.S. dominance.
To pretend that this is somehow equivalent to the dynamics of today’s global trade system — with China, the EU, or any other major economic rival — is either staggeringly naïve or willfully dishonest.
No one is arguing that reciprocal tariffs are always optimal in every scenario. But the notion that “all functioning states” must use reciprocal tariffs doesn’t require every country to practice them all the time in every era — just that reciprocal leverage is a basic and often necessary tool in trade relations. That’s true today in ways it wasn’t in 1947. Comparing the Marshall Plan to modern trade disputes is like comparing CPR to a boxing match because both involve contact.
If you’re going to invent arguments, at least put some effort into making them relevant.
Uh, oh. Sarc unshunned you. Only to reshun you.
Nobody is ever actually muted because Sarcasmic is a giant attention whore and wants guaranteed replies good or bad, which is the whole reason why he trolls.
Normally he just use a sockpuppet to defend himself, but I guess this time he was defending his “honour”.
Sarc samefagging lol.
It’s to be expected, as Sarc is a huge fag.
For months you’ve demanded the 2017 tax cuts to expire. 3.8T over 10. What effect does that have buddy?
Sad.
“Trump’s tariffs, like all policies, must be judged by their results and not their intentions.”
I guess Boehm doesn’t want to take his own advice and admit that the tariffs haven’t been in force for even three months yet. Nor will he tell the truth and admit that 99% of industry hasn’t yet encountered one that wasn’t in place during the Biden junta.
This man is a gaslighting swine.
He also can’t admit supply chain shifts and onshoring of industry through domestic investments are already happening.
Boehm is anti American, and a moron. I’m sick of seeing my country slip away because of leftist filth like him.
Maybe forced, permanent exile to someplace like Somalia is on order.
Almost everything of significance that’s sold in this country is made outside of America. Reason often has to interview small family wineries, crib makers, and valve companies that hire “dozens” of workers because they can’t actually find many big domestic manufacturing that should be impacted by tariffs. The hikes in raw material cost maybe end up costing more Chinese jobs than any job lost here.
There has not been shortages or life breaking price hikes. There could be if the trade stalemate continues. But in the end, companies bear and endure, consumers pay the price, and we move on. Trump already collected billions in new tariffs. We’d love to see fast food companies just leave CA in protest of all their targeted regulation and wage hikes – in reality, they need their market.
Trump could theoretically sign new trade deals. Maybe it’s only a little better than the status quo and wasn’t worth the trouble. That’s better than nothing. But there’s no escape from Marxist rule. I can’t escape from CA cost of living, which now include 68 cent tax on gas. They came this close to getting rid of gas powered things used at home. The 100 dollar I might have saved on a new washer sans Trump tariff would last less than a day here.
Bottom line – we’ll save money under Tariff obsessed Trump compared to President democrat. If you wanted someone like Trump but without his bad parts, you should taken advantage of a window when the GOP was leaning libertarianish instead making immigration a wedge issue. I’m not risking total annihilation and Jews getting burned in the streets in the holy name of free trade. No.
Great point. There’s nothing at all Marxist about disappearing people off the street and denying them due process while the government manages the economy. And that’s a whole lot better than DEI.
You probably said that when children were dying on the streets in Seattle’s autonomous zone and were fire bombing federal buildings in Portland during your mostly peaceful protests too.
Sorry to disappoint, but I never promoted or defended those things.
Nobody has been “disappeared off the streets”…
Sure they have. For example the guy who was sent to the torture prison in defiance of a court order was. His wife only knew he’d been disappeared when she saw him being loaded onto a plane on tv. Who knows about the others on the plane. Then there was the student who was snatched off the street. They can’t be the only ones. And we don’t know the full extent because that’s what “disappeared” means. And it’s all ok because Marxists did it first, right? When Trump and his defenders celebrate using the tactics of their enemies, they become what they hate.
Unmarked vans!
Torture prisons!
“Disappeared off the streets” implies they just bagged and tagged him on some random street corner instead of picking him up outside of his work. I’ll have to refresh my memory on the student, but if you’re talking about that douchebag wannabe Nazi, I’m pretty sure that was also a routine ICE pickup and not some unmarked van under the highway scenario. And I’d also argue that disappearing someone means no one knows of their whereabouts, whereas we all have known within 24 hours of these apprehensions.
Maybe I’m being autistic here, but there’s no reason to use the ridiculous inflammatory language the talking heads use to try and emotionally manipulate people.
Grabbing people sans warrants, depriving them of due process, and sending them to foreign torture prisons counts as “disappearing” to me.
At least in the case of Garcia, he had a final deportation order. No warrant necessary and honestly should have deported post haste way back in 2021 when it was issued.
The only place they screwed up was sending him back to El Salvador instead of a 3rd country or showing the “threat” in El Salvador was effectively null.
WalMart. At one time said 100% American. But investigations found it was importing from sweatshops. Overnight it became lowest prices guaranteed. With sanctions on China for the abhorrent, disgusting, Tienanmen Square atrocities WalMart lobbied to remove the sanctions as part of it’s reworking of it’s business plan. 100% imports of the cheapest made products on earth and the sale price set just a couple pennies below higher quality products imported and sold elsewhere and of course far far lower priced than high quality American made products. Sorry not sorry for Walmart one bit.
>”but it’s not something that anybody is going to be able to just pick up and do tomorrow.”
No, it’s not. And we don’t expect you to.
But it took two generations to get to the point where you can only source materials from overseas – everyone was fine with that matter the CO sequences to others. It was, as Reason likes to say about illegal immigration, a *net positive*.
“ No, it’s not. And we don’t expect you to.”
And yet the tariffs will disappear. Maybe tomorrow (if Trump is feeling like Forcing Free Trade Trump that day) or after he leaves office (because this will end very badly for the GOP), but these tariffs will exist for a maximum of just under four years. Many companies can wait, especially given the time and cost of expanding manufacturing capacity here.
This stupidity doesn’t have a generation. It doesn’t even have a decade. That’s because the fundamentals make it cheaper to mass produce products overseas. Without artificial costs forced on companies, it will never be cheaper to make things here than overseas. And as countries become more costly (like China), there are always a new country available (like Vietnam, India, and Indonesia). That will never stop. There will never be a scenario where American labor is cost-effective for mass production.
but these tariffs will exist for a maximum of just under four years
As the Biden administration so aptly demonstrated, you’re wrong.
It is politically toxic for democrats to repeal tariffs, they cannot win back working class voters.
Why would they get rid of them? They don’t care about free trade.
Ok.
Nothing in your post has anything to do with what I wrote, but ok. I mean, I never said anything about the merits of shipping manufacturing overseas – only that they were all fine with the negative consequences as long as they affected other people and not them. As long as, for them, it was a ‘net positive’ and fuck anyone who had to deal with the negatives.
Its the same policy they hold for illegal immigration – its a ‘net positive’ as long as the illegal immigrants are somewhere far away working in the fields or properly vetted so they can come wipe their arses.
You claimed that it took two generations to get where we are today, then attributed it to some vague, nefarious “they only care when it affects them” accusation.
You are involving feelings in something that is completely emotion-free. Efficiency doesn’t care if you would prefer the world were different. If there were merely a few points difference between overseas and domestic production, then preferences would be relevant. But there isn’t, so they aren’t.
Would I love to see American production be competitive with Vietnam, India, and Indonesia? Sure. Do I want our wealth and standard of living to drop so far that American labor would be competitive with those places? Absolutely not.
You want us to be as wealthy and powerful as we are today, but have workers who will work for the same wages as in developing nations. That is impossible. Literally our wealth as a nation makes it impossible to find workers who will work for those wages. You can’t have both, and I choose wealth and power with overseas production over poverty and weakness with domestic production.
Will you quit being a self proclaimed journalist when this statement is proven wrong?
“He will be one of the last people in the country to accept reality, long after rising prices, slower growth, increased job losses, and a sagging stock market have convinced the rest of America that high tariffs are a mistake.”
I think that’s what it will take. The ideologues take their opinions and fuck off and journalism which reports on the facts, the circumstances and what occurred and leaving the opinions to the reader returns…
Instead of being helped, she found herself dealing with fallout from the tariff announcement: canceled orders, higher prices, and enough uncertainty to put on hold a planned expansion of the company
Why?
What slave labor was she relying on?
Psst — we know they’re costly. But tell us why they’re costlier than income or excise taxes. Or than excessive fees for federal services such as patent issuance or the postal monopoly. Fedgov has lots of ways to pick our pockets, yet this is a special hobby horse of HyR since Trump’s been trying to shift the burden onto imports.
What the heck, I just paid a hefty premium and bought less than I wanted of (imported) D’Gari gelatine dessert powders because they come in some flavors to be made with milk, which Jell-o, Royal, and the like don’t have. Will it induce an American manufacturer to make similar flavors? I don’t see it happening.
Sure, I know you can make Jell-o with milk instead of water, but their flavors just aren’t made to mix like that. Actually the ones D’Gari has to make with water taste mostly better than the American brands too, but it’s not worth it at these after-tariff prices.
Will it induce an American manufacturer to make similar flavors? I don’t see it happening.
Maybe they need more of a market than just you. Or, perhaps you should take your production to wherever there IS a market for it.
This is the stupidity of Reason’s overall stance on the subject. They keep complaining about these niche markets. There is just such a First World Problems entitled arrogance to it all.
The question you’re asking is, “Why can’t I get my cheap milk jello?” The question you should be asking is, “How do I and everyone else get screwed by me getting my cheap milk jello.” But that requires a degree of introspection that extends beyond one’s immediate concerns, doesn’t it.
Maybe you don’t care. In which case, at least cop to that. Announce that America and its taxpayers should take it on the chin so that your goofy little milk jello hobby can be slightly cheaper. At least that’d be honest.
“Trump may fail for new reasons too. The White House has spent weeks pivoting between the claim that tariffs will allow the federal government to collect trillions of dollars in new revenue and the claim they are a negotiating tool to be removed once the other countries have knuckled under. Both cannot be true at once.
Both things CAN be true. We will get tariff income from countries that don’t play ball, and tariffs will be removed from the ones who do. It doesn’t surprise me that Boehm can think past a false binary choice. He’s kind of stupid, and a leftist zealot,
And it appears the tariffs will generate significant revenue:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/06/04/trumps-tariffs-would-cut-budget-deficits-by-2-8-trillion-cbo-says/
FTA:
“The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects that recent U.S. tariff increases will reduce federal deficits by $2.8 trillion over the next decade, primarily through increased customs revenue and lower interest payments on federal debt—more than enough to offset the projected cost of President Donald Trump’s proposed tax cut bill.”
So it looks like we can in fact have it both ways.
“We will get tariff income from countries that don’t play ball”
Well, that is pretty cool. I wasn’t aware that Trump’s tariffs had changed from billing the importer to billing the exporter. Does the 82nd Airborne get sent in to collect from any deadbeats?
But tell us why they’re costlier than income or excise taxes. Or than excessive fees for federal services such as patent issuance or the postal monopoly.
I wonder about the costs of the “postal monopoly”. Out of curiosity, I thought that I’d check prices. A 2 lb package in a box no larger than one cubic foot in size, no additional services or insurance; For the same starting and delivery zip codes to a residential address, 3 day delivery or less, FedEx was $32.93, UPS was $20.40, and USPS was $16.00.
Even the overnight envelope delivery seemed less between USPS and FedEx.
Maybe you will different results if you try this for yourself, or you pick different locations. But maybe it is worth examining your assumptions.
This is why usps loses money. Their pricing matrix is totally stupid.
Perhaps that’s true. Although, the USPS is governed by a commission as a quasi-independent agency, but it still has to abide by laws passed by Congress to determine what its rates are. If it is totally stupid, then it is up to Congress to fix that.
Besides, the other thing that is relevant is that the USPS exists as a public service. That means that it is supposed to deliver mail and packages to Americans even if it isn’t profitable to do that. We’ve had government postal service since before we declared independence.
Also, wasn’t it Kevin Costner that showed us how important the mail is?
^ This slimy pile of lefty shit promotes murder by government and ask the flaming asshole about “due process”:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?…”
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Well, that and the fact that they are required by law to deliver to rural areas that are ruinously expensive to service. If they were able to drop the unprofitable routes, they would be profitable. But they can’t, so they aren’t. And never can be.
^ This slimy pile of lefty shit promotes murder by government and ask the flaming asshole about “due process”:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?…”
Fuck off and die, shit-stain.
“But tell us why they’re costlier than income or excise taxes.”
Comparative advantage and opportunity cost. Tariffs incentivize companies to engage in industry that is cheaper to import at the expense of not engaging in industry that is cheaper to produce domestically.
Econ 101.
Domestic Taxes, Over-Regulation and Self-Entitled ‘Gun’ packing employees incentivize companies to engage in foreign industry because … even with the added costs of shipping it 1/2 way around the world the 0% Taxes, Less-Regulation and ‘Gun’ enslaved population pays for the extra costs to ship it 1/2 way around the world.
Not-Retarded Econ 101.
Seriously, what the fuck are you even talking about with ‘govguns’? Am I the only one that reads your posts and wonder what the fuck you are smoking? Are you just some 2nd a wingnut or ‘all taxes are theft’ dipshit? I can’t tell.
The only tool that makes government unique from any run-of the mill business/organization is having the monopoly of ‘Gun’ Force.
Using that Gov – “‘Gun’ Force” to forcefully TAKE $ from the people that the US Constitution (Supreme Law and very definition of what a USA is) doesn’t authorize is a criminal act.
The US Constitution was written in details to the ends that the Gov-Guns purpose was to defend Individual Liberty and ensure Justice for all.
There is no difference between UN-Constitutional (i.e. *ILLEGAL*) Taxing, Regulation and Entitlements and a [WE] Identify-as gang running around the country packing ‘Guns’ against the people and STEALING from them in their own self-interest because that is *EXACTLY* what it is.
It’s not white-washed of being criminal simply because the [WE] Identify-as gang identifies as ‘government’ because the USA has a law that sits above ‘government’.
So YES; Taxation that is unlawful by the very Supreme Law (the peoples law over their government) is nothing but criminal ‘armed-theft’.
Only ‘dipshits’ think just because a group of people (politicians) identify as ‘government’ automatically makes them pure/godly and pretends they can’t violate or commit crimes against the people.
Or summarized:
As I’ve said before and I’ll say again….
What to do when the nations Gov-Guns ends up working for criminals.
…instead of working to defend Individual Liberty and ensure Justice for all?
And yet you favour policies which run counter to individual liberty, you monomaniacal hypocrite.
He has said on several occasions that he knows nothing about economics and refuses to learn because the subject is leftist. He’s a willful idiot.
‘Hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs will be lost and only about a fifth as many created, according to an estimate by investment bank Goldman Sachs.’
Goldman Sachs? How retarded (and coopted) do you have to be to trust them?
Greedy capitalist’s wanting to keep their money instead of handing it over to the federal government. Don’t they know that Trump is taking their money to save America… like every other asshole politician before him.