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Deportation

Homegrowns Are Next

Plus: Luigi trial, Polis sucking, tariff polling, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 4.15.2025 9:39 AM

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President Trump and El Salvador President Bukele | Ken Cedeno/UPI/Newscom
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CECOT for citizens: President Donald Trump met with Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele in the Oval Office yesterday and said his innermost thoughts out loud: "Homegrowns are next. The homegrowns. You gotta build about five more places [like the CECOT prison]. It's not big enough."

"Yeah, we've got space," Bukele responded. Administration officials chuckled in the background. "I'm talking about violent people," Trump had said a few minutes earlier. "I'm talking about really bad people."

"We always have to obey the laws, but we also have homegrown criminals that push people into subways, that hit elderly ladies on the back of the head with a baseball bat when they're not looking, that are absolute monsters," said Trump.

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Attorney General Pam Bondi is reportedly considering legal mechanisms by which Trump could send American citizens to El Salvador's infamous Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo.

David Bier, a Cato Institute immigration expert, told NBC News that Trump's comments show how "absolutely critical it is for the courts to put an immediate stop to this extrajudicial imprisonment by foreign proxy."

"U.S. citizens may not be deported to imprisonment abroad. There is no authority for that in any U.S. law," noted Bier. "The U.S. government has already deported someone to this prison illegally and claimed no recourse to get them back, so the courts must shut down this unconstitutional train wreck before U.S. citizens are unlawfully caught up in it."

The Trump administration's CECOT fetish is disturbing. Officials keep visiting it and using it for photo ops, like Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem's little press tour a few weeks ago (which generated lots of social media content for the administration). "If you come to our country illegally, this is one of the consequences you could face," said Noem in a video. "First of all, do not come to our country illegally. You will be removed and you will be prosecuted. But know that this facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that we will use if you commit crimes against the American people."

CECOT keeps prisoners in brutal conditions, with basic medical care and hygiene denied; it faces severe overcrowding. Many of the people imprisoned are the most awful violent criminals, those responsible for El Salvador's decades-long high murder rate, who have brutally ripped families apart and terrorized the communities from which they come. But it's not just violent criminals Bukele has imprisoned: "Cecot houses both convicted criminals and those still going through El Salvador's court system," reports CNN. "With many constitutional rights suspended under El Salvador's years-long state of emergency, some people have been detained by mistake, President Nayib Bukele has admitted; several thousand of them have already been released."

Abrego Garcia still not returned: The Trump administration, having been ordered to "facilitate" the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia by a Supreme Court ruling that upheld a federal district judge's decision, is throwing its hands up in the air and claiming it can't really do anything to free him from CECOT—despite the fact that Bukele was in the Oval Office yesterday. "The question is preposterous. How can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States?" Bukele, seated next to Trump, told reporters yesterday. "I don't have the power to return him to the United States." Bukele is referring to the fact that the Trump administration has designated the MS-13 gang a foreign terrorist organization; never mind the fact that the evidence linking Abrego Garcia to MS-13 has been extraordinarily light, originating from a slapdash police report that appears to rely on some dude in a Home Depot parking lot's claim to cops, and the idea that he's affiliated with the Brentwood, New York, "Western" clique—"a place he has never lived," per the district judge overseeing his case. (Seriously.)

"In a court filing Monday evening, Joseph Mazzara, the acting general counsel for the Department of Homeland Security, said it 'does not have authority to forcibly extract' Abrego Garcia from El Salvador because he is 'in the domestic custody of a foreign sovereign nation,'" per the Associated Press.

It's all pretty nauseating: the idea that the government can admit to "administrative error"—Abrego Garcia had "withholding of removal" status granted to him in 2019, which meant he was not allowed to be deported to his native country, El Salvador, for credible fear of persecution—but can just deport someone to CECOT, the prison full of actual, legitimately murderous gang members, and just choose not to rectify the mistake. Neither Bukele nor Trump seem to be worried by the possibility of a miscarriage of justice; the imprisonment of a seemingly nonviolent man who has a family waiting for him in the U.S., who fear they'll never be able to see him again.

Look, imposing harsh consequences on those who terrorize society, who murder and rape and steal, is fine by me. But callous disregard for due process and for using the courts to actually suss out who is guilty and who is not (and what type of sentence they deserve based on their crimes) is unacceptable. If we choose to ignore our constitutional guarantees of due process, what do we have left?

Trump admin officials who have conceded that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was erroneously removed to El Salvador:

1. Solicitor General John Sauer, in a filing at SCOTUS

2. ICE official Robert Cerna, in a sworn declaration

3. DOJ lawyer Erez Reuveni, in court filings and at a hearing https://t.co/bBJSNXfPbo pic.twitter.com/68iRkVa14s

— Anna Bower (@AnnaBower) April 14, 2025

Bessent: a bright spot? "A lot of people say it and don't really mean it, and I think he means it," Sassan Ghahramani, founder and CEO of SGH Macro Advisers, who has known Scott Bessent for many years, told Politico of the Treasury secretary's belief that federal spending and the debt must be gotten under control. "The primary motivation for Scott to want this job is I think he wants to have a legacy of having improved the debt dynamics of the United States," said another friend.

Politico's Victoria Guida explains the Bessent theory as this: "You cut spending through Congress—meaningfully, which will help cool inflation, but gradually so as not to snuff out growth. You use tax cuts and deregulation to help offset the drag on the economy. And you use tariffs to raise revenue and diversify employment opportunities in the private sector that can be taken by people leaving government jobs." It's anyone's guess as to whether something like this would work—and whether the rest of the Trump administration assents. But attempting to parse Bessent's views, and understand the long game for him, seems worthwhile given the power he's amassed (and the fact that the more I try to understand his counterparts, like trade adviser Peter Navarro and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, the more I want to pull my hair out).


Scenes from New York: "Lawyers for Luigi Mangione asked a federal court on Friday to bar prosecutors from seeking the death penalty against him, arguing that Attorney General Pam Bondi's recently announced decision to do so was 'explicitly and unapologetically political,'" reports The New York Times. Mangione has been charged with the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside the New York Hilton Midtown, which happened this past December.

Mangione has become, disturbingly, a bit of a folk hero to broad swaths of the left, including journalist Taylor Lorenz—formerly of The Washington Post and The New York Times—who described the allure as "here's this man who, who's a revolutionary, who's famous, who's handsome, who's young, who's smart—he's a person that seems like a morally good man, which is hard to find." He does not seem morally good to me.

More background here:


QUICK HITS

  • Colorado Gov. Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians, but between his signing of "the toughest gun control regulations in state history" (CBS News) and his disallowing of the expansion of liquor sales to include grocery stores and big-box retailers (The Colorado Sun), he's seeming a bit like a standard Democrat after all. I've never been much of a fan, truth be told, and he's never struck me as the kind of politician who could get any play whatsoever on a national stage.
  • Speaking of Democrats who sound a bit like libertarians at times, here's our recent Just Asking Questions episode with Derek Thompson, which is worth your time if you care about whether Democrats can course-correct in any meaningful way:

  • "Trump kept pushing buttons until something broke in a way that was obvious enough for even him to notice; hence the rapid-fire policy changes, which reflect panic as much as anything else," writes Nate Silver (JAQ episode here) in a long piece on the four factions of Trump 2.0, and how their different interests are part of what's creating tariff whiplash. "The job of the other factions is to persuade Trump that tariffs like these aren't even in his own best interest, and they're probably right about that: a Conservative Golden Age will be much less likely if Trump's second term is primarily defined by economic turmoil. But good luck trying to persuade him after years of kissing his butt."
  • All about how fruitcake became big in space, from one of my favorite bakers, Bronwen Wyatt.
  • Ha:

Bukele dresses like the manager of a Zara in the valley who asks 19 year olds at the food court if they've ever considered modeling pic.twitter.com/0UMrFUQo3W

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) April 14, 2025

  • Wow:

Wow. Tariffs have moved ahead of immigration as a top concern to American voters, per a new survey from @EchelonInsights. pic.twitter.com/ZaR1D8rW4f

— John W Lettieri (@LettieriDC) April 14, 2025

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    Homegrowns are next. The homegrowns. You gotta build about five more places [like the CECOT prison]. It's not big enough.

    Bring the imprisoning industry back to America.

    1. Social Justice is neither   4 months ago

      Wrong place

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   4 months ago

      Off-shoring American jobs... jeez I wish he'd make up his mind.

      1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   4 months ago

        The prisoners will pay a tariff, so it’s all good.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

          Like with prisoner exchanges with Russia?

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

            If we had tariffs we would have had a better deal than one global arms merchant for one old wnba player.

            1. Ajsloss   4 months ago

              She can dunk!

              1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

                *could

                Hadn't in years.

                Also waiting for the WNBA racism articles after for the 2nd year in a row a white woman went 1st overall.

    3. mad.casual   4 months ago

      So, once we're deporting homegrown criminals do the immigration experts shut up or is this the sort of situation where, suddenly, there are no sides and it's about who is an expert and who's not.

      1. Dillinger   4 months ago

        the quicker we get to Death Race the better idc where it takes place.

    4. Fats of Fury   4 months ago

      Make Alcatraz Great Again

  2. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    "We always have to obey the laws, but we also have homegrown criminals that push people into subways, that hit elderly ladies on the back of the head with a baseball bat when they're not looking, that are absolute monsters," said Trump.

    Can we finally address the problem of old ladies not keeping their heads on a swivel?

    1. Social Justice is neither   4 months ago

      But what if you have flashbacks to your T-ball days and that head on a swivel is just so triggering?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

        What do the voices in your head tell you to do?

        1. Randy Sax   4 months ago

          Murder my parents so I can buy explosives with their money and blow up Trump.

          https://www.dailywire.com/news/wisconsin-teen-accused-of-murdering-parents-as-part-of-plot-to-assassinate-trump?author=Leif+Le+Mahieu&category=News&elementPosition=8&row=3&rowHeadline=Latest+News&rowType=Vertical+Carousel&title=Wisconsin+Teen+Accused+Of+Murdering+Parents+As+Part+Of+Plot+To+Assassinate+Trump

          1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   4 months ago

            Solid planning.

          2. Eeyore   4 months ago

            I'm thinking this young individual never would have been very successful at anything.

        2. Longtobefree   4 months ago

          I don't know, they only speak Spanish.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

            Damn. Immigrants doing the thinking Americans won't do.

      2. mad.casual   4 months ago

        Sounds like we might need to find your t-ball coach and deport him.

        1. Dillinger   4 months ago

          my first baseball coach did federal time for corruption lol.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

            I've seen this movie. But it was with hockey.

            1. Dillinger   4 months ago

              it was in New Orleans ... most people did federal time for corruption

  3. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    Attorney General Pam Bondi is reportedly considering legal mechanisms by which Trump could send American citizens to El Salvador's infamous Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo.

    I remember the days when "reportedly" meant something.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   4 months ago

      It is hard for today's low skilled 'reports' to use according to anonymous sources. 'Reportly' is way fewer key strokes.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

        And even fewer efforts to find and confirm an actual source.

      2. Longtobefree   4 months ago

        "Lies" uses even fewer - - - - - - - -

      3. Don't get eliminated(Don't forget to eat your penguin meat)   4 months ago

        “Some might say” is my personal favorite.

    2. Moonrocks   4 months ago

      It means the same thing it's always meant: that's what's being reported by the media, which makes it more accurate than the truth.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

        MSNBC said something so the something becomes truth.

        Look at how right they were about all those anti trump stories like Russia, fine good people, and loser soldiers.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   4 months ago

      "reportedly" means "I'm going to make up something and try to pawn it off as a rumor".

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

        And it helps to use the word "literal". Like "reportedly, Trump is literally Hitler!"

    4. Eeyore   4 months ago

      Are they giving out free lobotomies to journalists nowadays?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

        I thought that was a job requirement.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    U.S. citizens may not be deported to imprisonment abroad.

    Not without obtaining a Real ID first, they can't.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   4 months ago

      Been wondering if black people are not going to be able to go on airplanes since they have SO MUCH DIFFICULTY getting an id?

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 months ago

        They also don't know how to get on the internet

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

          Not enough wifi in the slave quarters?

        2. Randy Sax   4 months ago

          Or what a computer is.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL25XyLL_lY

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

        Domestic flights still dont require any ID. But you'll get extra screening without it.

        1. Jefferson Paul   4 months ago

          I'm not seeing that. I just searched and the results all said domestic flights too will require a Real ID.

      3. Eeyore   4 months ago

        They also can't masterbate using pornhub if they live in Utah.

    2. Eeyore   4 months ago

      What makes it real? Is the fake ID in the room with us right now?

  5. Social Justice is neither   4 months ago

    You degenerate scum celebrate murderers and punish normal people then get all shocked when the consequences aren't a warm hug? GFY you evil narcissistic nihilists. You deserve every bit of the world you wish on others and you deserve to get it good and hard.

  6. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

    "Bukele dresses like the manager of a Zara in the valley who asks 19 year olds at the food court if they’ve ever considered modeling"

    "Ha Ha!
    El Salvador's president's suit are hickish, and not as fancy as mine, nor as dreamy as Zelenskyy's Lulu lemon battlewear."

    1. Randy Sax   4 months ago

      What about Kid Rock's Canadian tuxedo?

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

        That's formal wear up here.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

          How does that compare to fancy dress in Alaska (new Carhartts--no duct tape)?

          1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

            The Canadian tuxedo is C-suite Toronto. Clean new Carhartts is Edmonton evening wear.

            1. Randy Sax   4 months ago

              Full Fond Du Lac: Wader overalls, no shirt.

              1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

                That's fancier dress than the Fond Du Lac that I know: https://www.fonddulac.ca/

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

          Kid Rock does hail from the eleventh province.

          1. VinniUSMC   4 months ago

            Michigan: Lower Canadia

            1. Randy Sax   4 months ago

              But with more guns.

              1. Don't get eliminated(Don't forget to eat your penguin meat)   4 months ago

                He grew up about 45 minutes from where I live. Can confirm.

              2. VinniUSMC   4 months ago

                Lots of guns! Pew pew.

    2. mad.casual   4 months ago

      The selectively-contextually-oblivious boomer fashion take is hilarious the other way as well.

      Managing retail while "prospecting 19 yr. old models" is hilariously disreputable all the way down to the point that even people who dress similarly should be embarrassed.

      Anybody dressed like him needs to get a real, respectable job like producing "Cuties"-style content for Netflix or leasing a Bop House to underage OF models.

      Remember, this is the "Diversity is our strength.", "Borders and gender are social constructs.", "We're enlightened *and* tolerant." progressive/civil libertarians playing up this abjectly retarded kayfabe.

    3. mad.casual   4 months ago

      LOL:

      You mean he's dressed like Harry Sisson?

  7. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    The Trump administration's CECOT fetish is disturbing.

    This is the fucked up shit you get when you let the other side get away with its fucked up shit for years. Those pendulum swings have to get momentum from somewhere.

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

      I don't know how bad it is in the US, but up here Trudeau pulled a California, stopped charging people and emptied the jails of every violent offender, and ordinary citizens have been terrorized for the past two years. Trump's talk is what I hear from everyone right now.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

        Violent criminals have more rights than common citizens. Especially truckers.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   4 months ago

      And the swing back is going to be doosie after the first Trump admin response (fairly typical) begot Biden's response.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

        Somehow you’re forgetting the entire eight years of the corrupt Obama administration.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   4 months ago

          Obama was pretty typical too when it came to immigration - within Overton. Kids in cages and higher number of deports than Bush. Biden is the outlier.

    3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 months ago

      As Tyler durden said to his mild mannered corporate bot alter ego toward the end of Fight Club: “Take some responsibility!”

      For the open borders crowd that would require backing away from the self serving virtue signaling, and yeah, no, that ain’t gonna happen. Haha.

  8. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

    You know who else does some Polis sucking?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

      ENB?
      KMW?

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

        Jeff was pretty special yesterday.

        1. Dillinger   4 months ago

          is it possible to ... feel rage through a screen?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

            Jeffy sure seems to express rage through the screen enough.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

              Rage eating for sure.

    2. damikesc   4 months ago

      The Jacket certainly swallows Polis' baby batter.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    The Trump administration, having been ordered to "facilitate" the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia by a Supreme Court ruling that upheld a federal district judge's decision, is throwing its hands up in the air and claiming it can't really do anything to free him from CECOT...

    You bitch when we tariff countries onto submission, you bitch when we don't tariff countries into submission. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS.

    1. damikesc   4 months ago

      Does Liz think we're going to send special forces into El Salvador to recover...an El Salvadoran citizen?

      No matter how much she bitches, Trump COMPLETELY abided by the court order.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    In a court filing Monday evening, Joseph Mazzara, the acting general counsel for the Department of Homeland Security, said it 'does not have authority to forcibly extract' Abrego Garcia from El Salvador...

    How far U.S. special forces have fallen.

  11. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

    "U.S. citizens may not be deported to imprisonment abroad. There is no authority for that in any U.S. law," noted Bier. "The U.S. government has already deported someone to this prison illegally and claimed no recourse to get them back, so the courts must shut down this unconstitutional train wreck before U.S. citizens are unlawfully caught up in it."

    Why not reconsider exile for most serious but not capital offenses? Is it more libertarian (and reasonable) to lock people up for a few years?

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   4 months ago

      Worked for Polanski, maybe not so much for the victims though. Would mostly depend on where they are exiled to pass muster here.

      1. mad.casual   4 months ago

        Would mostly depend on where they are exiled to pass muster here.

        Define 'here'. Not Iran, Myanmar, Azerbaijan, Venezuela, or Philadelphia.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   4 months ago

          That depends on the definition of define.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

            Channeling your inner Slick Willie?

            1. rbike   4 months ago

              Greenland. Can't you all see it. And send those who don't or won't live as civilized human beings The drug addicts who wander the streets. It is the only practical thing to do to solve those lying flat. No one working wants to keep paying for it. Greenland can be nice for a couple of weeks of the year. I hear.

            2. Sometimes a Great Notion   4 months ago

              Just a bit.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

      It’s an ancient solution. The Romans used to exile people for x number of years.

  12. Spiritus Mundi   4 months ago

    absolutely critical it is for the courts to put an immediate stop to this extrajudicial imprisonment by foreign proxy

    El Salvador imprisoning one of its own citizens is now extrajudicial imprisonment by foreign proxy.
    We have reached peak stupid here at Reeeeason.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

      They sadly don't even see how ridiculous they sound.

      Keep pointing it out, they had no issue with the abuses against J6 non violent protestors. Year in jail without a hearing. Kept in isolation. 9-0 USSC ruling against the charges Garland chose to use.

      They care for the out group illegals and gang members more so that citizens. And they claim morality for that.

      1. damikesc   4 months ago

        Well, Reason has always supported illegals over Americans. That is just their brand.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

      Peak stupid? I'll take that bet.

    3. SQRLSY   4 months ago

      So, if Reason wasn't soooo stupid, they would be CLAMORING to outsource the torture of USA citizens? Without the ability to fix mistaken convictions? How evil can You get?

      You sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevaturd people rant and rave for always MORE punishment for poor people here and abroad! STOP, Ye PervFectly say, STOP allowing dirt-poor people abroad to make dirt-poor wages… Which pay they are happy to get… Making clothes and toys etc. for Americans. Jobs which can NEVER be affordably brought back here to the USA, if we are honest about shit!

      Meanwhile we ALSO punish hard-working poor people in the USA by preventing them from buying affordable clothes-toys etc.!

      ALSO meanwhile, the prices of fashionable dresses for Trump’s Queen Spermy Daniels and His-Her matching Harem and Wives and Daughters and Ex-Wives and VAST flocks of sheep, goats, donkeys, horses, llamas, geese, and hamsters… These dresses becum more expensive, butt for Donald and RICH Trumpanzees, this merely multiplies the “conspicuous cuntsumption” value of said dresses!

      PUNISHING all of the world’s poor is GREAT for red-meat scape-goat “American” values!

      Butt then when we OUTSOURCE the torture chambers and "Gulag Archipelagos" of the world to third-world nations… To HELL with “good jerbs for Good American prison slave-drivers and torture-chamber experts”… then Ye PervFected sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevaturds are ALL on board with shit!!!

      Twat exactly ARE yer “principles” anyway, besides POWER and PUNISHMENT?

  13. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

    Reason hardest hit:

    Latest Harvard Harris poll shows OVERWHELMING support for Trump policies:

    74% for deporting illegals
    70% for closing the border
    69% for DOGE
    65% to ban trans men from girl sports
    57% for ending foreign aid
    57% for reciprocal tariffs
    53% for Alaska drilling

    Say a prayer for poor Sarcasmic.

    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   4 months ago

      65% to ban trans men from girl sports

      Don't those bigots know that's all subjective? -chemjeff

      1. mad.casual   4 months ago

        Who cast these opinions/votes?

        [mezzo-soprano shrieks] She did! She did! [Tone sinks to falsetto bass] He did! He did!

        I'm going to presume I missed the ads from the DNC encouraging the cross-dressing husbands of oppressive, conservative TERF wives to secretly vote in favor of trans men in women's sports.

        1. damikesc   4 months ago

          Hell, I'm shocked the WNBA has not tried to get trannies into their sport.

          Outside chance it might become watchable.

          The coach of my alma mater's womens' basketball team, Dawn Staley, supports trannies in womens' sports. I hope to see the Lady Gamecocks play a team with 2 or so trannies and get curb-stomped. She will then bitch and moan on the unfairness.

          1. Jefferson Paul   4 months ago

            You want more "women" with cocks to join the Lady Gamecocks?

            Sorry, I'm showing squirlsy level of maturity, but the lame joke presented itself and I couldn't resist.

            1. damikesc   4 months ago

              Very much so. Given that they cannot beat the not-good-at-all men's Cocks team, trannies would run roughshod on them.

    2. Longtobefree   4 months ago

      Just for the record, there is no such thing as 'trans men'.
      They are men.
      True, they can't deal with reality, but they are still men, and always will be.

      1. Eeyore   4 months ago

        I'm still confused. I thought trans men were born women and trans women were born men.

        1. Jefferson Paul   4 months ago

          The official nomenclature for the left is that trans men were born female (or "assigned female at birth") who now identify as men. You were correct; the X post is actually referring to "trans women." The poll question says something like "students who were born male..."

      2. Randy Sax   4 months ago

        No such thing as chicks with dicks, only dudes with tits.

        1. Eeyore   4 months ago

          There are also guys with pies.

      3. Fats of Fury   4 months ago

        Eunuchs and Newnucks.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

      Sure. A prayer for Sarcasmic:

      Our Father, please take pity on your village idiot, Sarc. He knows not how to use debate terminology, unknowing as he is about tu quoque, ad hominem, strawmen, and false equivalencies. Please show him the way to the light (beer). Amen

    4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

      Harvard is usually around +8 dems too.

  14. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

    "With many constitutional rights suspended under El Salvador's years-long state of emergency, some people have been detained by mistake, President Nayib Bukele has admitted; several thousand of them have already been released."

    You know which other countries have fucked with people by declaring states of emergency?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

      Illinois, California, Minnesota, New York…

    2. damikesc   4 months ago

      I will take "violation of Constitutional rights" over "Being murdered routinely".

      Like it or not, he has improved El Salvador exponentially.

  15. Randy Sax   4 months ago

    "here's this man who, who's a revolutionary, who's famous, who's handsome, who's young, who's smart—he's a person that seems like a morally good man, which is hard to find."

    Why's it always ladies that have the biggest murder boner?

    1. Moonrocks   4 months ago

      Because murderers tend to dress fashionably?

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 months ago

      Bitches be crazy?

    3. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

      Bitches be crazy.

    4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

      They are the prime demographic for the A&E murder shows.

      While they claim they want beta cuck democrat eapist male feminists, evolution still prefers they want strong men. This is their out while being virtuous demanding the cucks.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

        They want both. They want a bull to father the child and a nice steer to raise it.

        Men have a different but similar strategy where they want to spread their seed by inseminating as many random whores as they can and leaving them to fate, and at the same time investing their time and energy into raising one select female's offspring.

        Society has put a penalty on the male dual strategy with child support, but there's nothing to penalize women for theirs.

    5. Medulla Oblongata   4 months ago

      Posted yesterday under Bernie at Coachella...

      https://www.sfgate.com/sf-culture/article/calif-punk-stalwarts-army-of-luigis-coachella-20274319.php

      California punk rockers call for an 'army of Luigis' during brash Coachella set

      Shortly after ending a blistering rendition of “Coup D’Etat” during their Coachella set, Circle Jerks frontman Keith Morris made a clarification to the moshing crowd. Although that last song ended with the words “kill all,” he made a point to say that the band does not condone what it describes, including kidnapping government leaders for ransom and leading a coup. “That song, that last line, ends with ‘kill all.’ That’s a pretty f—king ugly statement,” Morris said. “In ugly times. Do not think that we encourage that.”

      Then, Morris went in a different direction. “What we do encourage — what would be totally f—king happening — would be an army of Luigis,” he said, in reference to Luigi Mangione, who is currently facing both federal and New York state charges for the alleged killing of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson late last year.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

        Needz more meteors.

    6. Mickey Rat   4 months ago

      Morally good except for being judge, jury and executioner of a man whi was judged to be evil because he was CEO od a health insurance company.

      "Revolutionary" and "good morals" rarely go together.

      1. mad.casual   4 months ago

        He's not even that revolutionary either. It's an opinion from the singular "perennially trapped in her own head Black Mirror-style" stupid cat lady, Taylor Lorenz.

        Unless his goal was to revolutionize the way insurance executives think about personal security, he didn't do dick.

    7. шинка   4 months ago

      That murder is a coward and an idiot.

      He's a coward because he assassinated someone by shooting them in the back and didn't have the courage to face them and look them in the eye. What a little pussy coward this twat is.

      He's an idiot because during the whole time between the assassination and when he got caught he held onto all of the evidence to convict him. Any mouth breather with half a brain would have ditched all of the evidence and maybe tried to do an appearance change and lay low. No, this rocket scientist went to a friggin' McDonald's carrying all of the evidence needed to convict him. Smooth brained progressive idiot.

      Anyone elevating this criminal needs to be tuned out or incessantly mocked for being abjectly stupid for endorsing an assassin. So I guess for these people, assassination is the new "it" thing. I hope it backfires on all of them.

      1. VinniUSMC   4 months ago

        He didn't think anybody would even care to look for him.

      2. mad.casual   4 months ago

        +1 Your average gangster rapper is more heroically and intelligently revolutionary.

      3. Uilleam   4 months ago

        I'm not convinced he did it. The whole situation seemed so prepared.

        1. шинка   4 months ago

          Let's see how his trial pans out. Without knowing all of the evidence against him, the things that have been currently shared aren't looking good for him.

          But I'm always interested in a good conspiracy theory; care to share more?

          1. Uilleam   4 months ago

            The evidence is too pat. And then they find him just waiting, conveniently with everything they need to identify him? Also, there are multiple pictures, supposedly of him, but questionable in my opinion. I think he was set up as the fall guy, whether he pulled the trigger or not.

        2. VinniUSMC   4 months ago

          Did it? Yes. On his own? Unlikely.

          1. Uilleam   4 months ago

            Fair

      4. damikesc   4 months ago

        I think it is funny that his lawyers think Bondi stating she will be seeking the death penalty should be forbidden because it is political.

    8. mad.casual   4 months ago

      Tucker: Chicks love a guy who's rebellious. You should try and act rebellious to impress them.
      Caboose: Power to the people! The working man needs to rise up and overthrow their bourgeoisie oppressors!
      Tucker: I said 'rebellious', not 'revolutionary'.

    9. Fats of Fury   4 months ago

      Even John Wayne Gacy had female Pen pals.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    It's all pretty nauseating: the idea that the government can admit to "administrative error..."

    Authorities admitting a mistake. This is more than most Americans get from federal prosecutors. I love that the press is focusing on this one injustice while roundly ignoring - if not cheering - the countless other

    Meh. Fuck it.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

      Not one judge admitted their mistake using the law scotus ruled invalid for j6. Most doubled down and said the 20 year threat didn't effect the plea agreements.

      1. damikesc   4 months ago

        Boasberg was one of those judges, specifically. Reason has never had an issue with him.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   4 months ago

      Shouldn't be too hard to admit the mistake of deporting him to the wrong country. Pick him up in El Salvadore and drop him off in one of the other countries accepting 3rd country deportees, or bring him back and hold him in Gitmo until Dems can find the "due process" needed to release him. Dude was here illegally, violated terms of his asylum process, had deportation orders, and was a "fugitive" from those standing deportation order. Removing him from the US was not a mistake, sending him to the one country immigration judge who ordered his deportation said not to send him to was.

      1. sarcasmic   4 months ago

        Removing him from the US was not a mistake, sending him to the one country immigration judge who ordered his deportation said not to send him to was.

        Was it? This looks to me like Trump testing the waters, seeing if he can get away with defying judges, and seeing if his cult will defend him. So far so good.

        1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   4 months ago

          More guesswork on your part.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

          Like the illegal defied his final deportation orders? Like the judge defying SCOTUS?

          I do love watching you call others in a cult while crying like a leftist bitch for pointing out you're a Democrat.

        3. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

          "seeing if he can get away with defying judge"

          Sarc's been warning about this since January. One day, Sarckles, one day.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

            And the years prior he demanded illegals ignore judges and laws because they were immoral ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  17. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    "You cut spending through Congress—meaningfully, which will help cool inflation, but gradually so as not to snuff out growth. You use tax cuts and deregulation to help offset the drag on the economy. And you use tariffs to raise revenue and diversify employment opportunities in the private sector that can be taken by people leaving government jobs."

    He used the t word.

  18. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

    'Colorado Gov. Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians, but between his signing of "the toughest gun control regulations in state history" (CBS News) and his disallowing of the expansion of liquor sales to include grocery stores and big-box retailers (The Colorado Sun), he's seeming a bit like a standard Democrat after all. I've never been much of a fan, truth be told, and he's never struck me as the kind of politician who could get any play whatsoever on a national stage.'

    But in the unstoppable trend of the californication of Colorado, Polis provided a few brief moments of delay. Whoever comes next (Sen. Non-entity Bennett?) will likely be much worse.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

      What you call delay i call cover. He was always incrementally going California.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   4 months ago

        If claiming to be libertarian got him a "free" 1% bump in the vote, it was worth it for him to make the claims.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    Lawyers for Luigi Mangione asked a federal court on Friday to bar prosecutors from seeking the death penalty against him, arguing that Attorney General Pam Bondi's recently announced decision to do so was 'explicitly and unapologetically political'...

    Lol. Like the death penalty's use was ever anything but.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 months ago

      Was the death penalty Luigi impliment Ed political?

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

        They caught someone outside of UHC campus yesterday trying for Luigi 2.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

          Meh. Sequels are never as good.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

            His outrage is likely in another castle anyways.

    2. damikesc   4 months ago

      He also murdered a guy in public on camera in what was CLEARLY first degree murder.

      If she was not seeking the death penalty, I'd be irate.

      1. Rockstevo   4 months ago

        I don’t want him to get the death penalty but only because it will a. turn him into a martyr and b. while he is waiting for all his appeals he will be held in solitary. I want him to get a good long sentence in general population…a nice lookin young fella like him will have a gay ol time in gen pop. By the time he gets out I am bettin he won’t have as many women fawning over him. Also what is Stanning?

  20. Idaho-Bob   4 months ago

    Taylor Lorenz—formerly of The Washington Post and The New York Times—who described the allure as "here's this man who, who's a revolutionary, who's famous, who's handsome, who's young, who's smart—he's a person that seems like a morally good man, which is hard to find." He does not seem morally good to me.

    A morally good man because he shot a rich guy in the back. These same people wanted Rittenhouse sent to Gitmo for defending himself.

    We are getting so close.

    1. Michael Ejercito   4 months ago

      Rittenhouse killed violent rioters, and violent rioters are their heroes.

      They do not have the same outrage against the McMichaels.

      1. damikesc   4 months ago

        Hell, he had the kind of trigger discipline we would KILL for cops to have. He did not hit anybody who was NOT actively attacking him.

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

      Him being not guilty sucked - sarcasmic

  21. Spiritus Mundi   4 months ago

    If we choose to ignore our constitutional guarantees of due process, what do we have left?

    Which due process guarantees are we ignoring? The judge who ordered him deported, which he ignored for several months, or the Resist! judge who use the "Honey, get muh pearls" clause to stay the deportion to *checks notes* only El Salvador, but still ordered deported?

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

      Months? Almost 6 years.

  22. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

    "The job of the other factions is to persuade Trump that tariffs like these aren't even in his own best interest, and they're probably right about that: a Conservative Golden Age will be much less likely if Trump's second term is primarily defined by economic turmoil. But good luck trying to persuade him after years of kissing his butt."

    If only they could be like Democrats, and install a senile old man, who provides cover for a barely-hidden cabal of motivated experts and college interns.

    1. mad.casual   4 months ago

      Can we have a discussion about how the economy, but not the government, should work practically no matter which buttons which President pushes or is that in "We don't talk about that." pocket alongside the "We funded a global pandemic *and* a kleptocracy that blew up NATO infrastructure... and we may've brainwashed and castrated some children."?

    2. Medulla Oblongata   4 months ago

      Reading the chain of tweets about Trump's physical results was hilarious, so many diagnoses of dementia and claims of quackery on the part of the physician. The same people who said Biden was perfectly fine and "the best version of Biden" whom interns could not keep up with...

      1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   4 months ago

        “Trust the experts “!

  23. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

    The Democrat's support was never real. It was all stolen from taxpayers.

    USAID: David Hogg’s gun control group had a drastic collapse in donations via ActBlue immediately following Trump’s closure of USAID. As a result, March for Our Lives has had to layoff almost all of its staff.

    1. Idaho-Bob   4 months ago

      Funny how all of those NGO's are just Democratic entities laundering money.

      But sending an illegal back to his home country is the worst thing ever.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

        Funny how Reason hasn't written a single article about how all of those NGO's are laundering USAID money.

        1. Idaho-Bob   4 months ago

          Makes me wonder who's funding this shit.

          Ol' Koch found a way to save a buck.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

          Well they didn't ask Congress.

        3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 months ago

          Why would reason be opposed to Marxist laundering money?

        4. Social Justice is neither   4 months ago

          Makes you wonder how they really hit their fundraising goals the last decade or so.

          1. Medulla Oblongata   4 months ago

            They didn't.

            https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/830885411

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

        And how NGO leaders and staff are all spouses and kids of government officials, including judges.

    2. Juliana Frink   4 months ago

      "The Democrat's support was never real. It was all stolen from taxpayers."

      Any time a democrat opens his/her trap from now until eternity, this needs to be the first response from any sane person.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   4 months ago

      They were millions in the hole well before USAID funding cut off. Was a scam on his part the whole way.

  24. Moonrocks   4 months ago

    Abrego Garcia still not returned

    It's pretty wild that the biggest story of the week is how we're not sending the army to break a Salvadorian man out of a Salvadorian prison and smuggle him into the US to live without legal residency.

    1. damikesc   4 months ago

      I loved Miller pointing out that, best case scenario --- he STILL is not coming here. He would STILL go elsewhere.

  25. Medulla Oblongata   4 months ago

    "Colorado Gov. Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians"

    Reason liberaltarians, maybe...

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

      Well, he is Governor McDreamy to most of them, including Sullum, Boehm, KMW, etc.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 months ago

      What reason libritarians?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

        You misspelled "libertinians".

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

          Liberal-tarians?

  26. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    Colorado Gov. Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians...

    But not all, and we're finding out why now.

    1. Eeyore   4 months ago

      Two outcomes from the new laws. Which violate Section 242 of Title 18.

      1. Someone who needs a firearm for self defense won't be able to get it in time and will lose their life.

      2. Someone dedicated to a mass murder will attend the required firearm training. Actually aquire some skills and will be much more successful killing many more people than they would have without the training.

  27. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    Trump kept pushing buttons until something broke in a way that was obvious enough for even him to notice; hence the rapid-fire policy changes, which reflect panic as much as anything else...

    Mandates can be a heady elixir.

    1. mad.casual   4 months ago

      As I indicated above, all the pod-sleeping, cricket-eating, child-castrating, pipeline-exploding, vaccinating policy was going great until the man elected to press all the buttons labeled "Do not touch." pressed "the one button" (but not the *The Button*) that shouldn't be pressed.

  28. Medulla Oblongata   4 months ago

    "Bukele dresses like the manager of a Zara in the valley who asks 19 year olds at the food court if they’ve ever considered modeling

    But asking a US Senator to *not* wear sweats to the Senate floor was some huge offensive thing.

    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   4 months ago

      Fashion police are very fickle..

    2. Juliana Frink   4 months ago

      Reason Magazine should be renamed "Sneer Magazine".

      Their essence is adolescence.

    3. Super Scary   4 months ago

      He looks more like a henchman from a show like Burn Notice or Blacklist.

      1. Jefferson Paul   4 months ago

        I fucking loved Burn Notice, even if it was so over the top.

  29. Fist of Etiquette   4 months ago

    Wow. Tariffs have moved ahead of immigration as a top concern to American voters...

    Corporate journalism, you haven't lost your touch.

    1. Minadin   4 months ago

      That's because illegal immigration is down 95% already. It's less of a concern now.

    2. sarcasmic   4 months ago

      Only leftists complain about higher prices.

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   4 months ago

        Great point sarc. You win the thread.

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

        Can you point out the higher prices?

        Why are you ignoring the 1.5T in domestic investment.

        I get you being homeless makes you pro welfare, but why do you never consider costs to taxpayers for shipping jobs overseas?

        I bet I can also go into any thread on inflation the last 4 years, actual inflation over 20%, and find no complaints from you. I can also post your comments defending payments to illegals raising housing prices.

        So your complaint rings hollow.

        1. VULGAR MADMAN   4 months ago

          Sarc can’t remember his latest lie.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

            Alcohol tends to do that when one imbibes mass quantities of it.

      3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

        Your trolling is pathetic, Sarc.

      4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

        No, Sarc, leftists complain about any prices, since anything they consider important is a human right and should be free.

        1. sarcasmic   4 months ago

          Earth-based Human Skeptic in 2022 - "BIDENFLATION IS KILLING AMERICA!!!"

          Earth-based Human Skeptic in 2025 - "SHUT UP ABOUT HIGHER PRICES!!!"

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

            Do you have a citation? Or projecting your own hypocrisy again?

            Want me to go to some prior inflation threads and see your criticisms?

            I can post your government funded housing for illegals doesn't cause inflation if you want.

          2. Bertram Guilfoyle   4 months ago

            You won again sarc!

          3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

            So now you’re trying out your false equivalencies on other commenters here?

          4. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

            I'll take "shit Sarcasmic just made up" for a thousand, Alex.

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   4 months ago

              There could be a week of episodes using just that category.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

                Shit, that could be a two-week Tournament of Retards by itself.

          5. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 months ago

            Are you going for peak retard?

  30. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

    Team Chemjeff still has a lot of vandalizing, burning and terrorizing to do:

    TESLA OUTSOLD THE NEXT 10 EV BRANDS COMBINED IN Q1 2025

    Tesla remained far ahead of the competition in Q1 2025, selling 128,100 EVs — more than the next 10 brands combined.

    The Model Y and Model 3 continued to lead the charts, showing Tesla’s strong grip on the U.S. electric vehicle market.

    Overall, EV sales in the U.S. grew to nearly 300,000 units, with Tesla driving the momentum forward.

    1. Jefferson Paul   4 months ago

      Was Tesla dominating more than that last year, in Q1 2024? That would be a better metric than just citing that Tesla is dominating right now. It would show what effect all the hate for Elon is having.

  31. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 months ago

    Terrifs are the biggest concern? Wow it's almost like the mainstream media and big tech intentionally push things to promote anti American propaganda

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

      Oddly enough, trumps numbers have gone up since the tariffs started. So not sure what they mean about concern.

      1. Randy Sax   4 months ago

        Had a work meeting today, the 401K manager got on his knees and cried, begging us not to pull out.

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 months ago

          That's what she said

    2. Jefferson Paul   4 months ago

      Are "terrifs" a tax on goods sold by TERFs? Better buy your copies of Harry Potter before they go into effect, I guess.

  32. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   4 months ago

    Arsonist who lit Governor's house sounds like MAGA nut that posts here:

    A post from January 2021 says in part, “Biden supporters shouldn’t exist. Where were you his first run? Well aware of the trash he is.” Another post from the same month reads in part, “RIP Joe Biden….. Whoops that’s in May, #notmypresidenteither”
    ....
    In September 2021, Balmer posted a meme criticizing Biden’s handling of the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. The meme shows Biden in a car with text that reads, “Get in, loser. We’re leaving Afghanistan.” The next image shows Biden appearing to drive off with text that says “*Drives off without you*”
    ....
    In June 2022, Balmer shared on Facebook what appears to be a photo of a needlepoint illustration of a flaming Molotov cocktail – the same weapon authorities say he used to start the fires at Shapiro’s residence.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/14/politics/cody-balmer-shapiro-arson-suspect-invs/index.html

    1. Idaho-Bob   4 months ago

      We get more info about a dude who set a small fire than we did about a Blackrock employee who shot a presidential candidate (and ex-president) while campaigning.

      But, but...He shared memes about Joe and Hunter!!!

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

      Somehow you managed to miss where this guy is a socialist.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 months ago

        turd lies; it's what turd does.

      2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

        turd lies; it's what turd does.

    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 months ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    4. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

      *Progressive who was mad Biden wasn't socialist enough*

      CNN: "History of criticizing Biden"

      Buttplug: "hE wAs mAgA"

    5. damikesc   4 months ago

      Gee, molotovs are used by a certain political persuasion.

      It ain't the Right.

    6. Jefferson Paul   4 months ago

      I'm still waiting on confirmation that he donated to ActBlue to determine that he was a conservative.

  33. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

    The Trump administration, having been ordered to "facilitate" the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia by a Supreme Court ruling that upheld a federal district judge's decision

    Liz. Please be better than your coworkers. This remains false no matter how many times you guys say it. The order was to facilitate his release, not return.

    This makes you look so dishonest.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

      It's all pretty nauseating: the idea that the government can admit to "administrative error"—Abrego Garcia had "withholding of removal" status granted to him in 2019, which meant he was not allowed to be deported to his native country, El Salvador, for credible fear of persecution—

      The gang he claimed to be in fear from, 18th street gang, no longer exists. What fear is remaining? Why can't you admit he was ordered deported?

      Why can't you ask yourself how a judge can deny his asylum claims and at the same time add this condition. Do you think that is a power of the judicial branch?

      1. rbike   4 months ago

        Pretty safe in El Salvador I hear now. Not sure why but it appears safer than most US cities. I would visit.

    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

      Maybe Liz is the one writer that KMW actually edits?

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

        Nah. This time it is blue bubble bias.

        It was difficult to find the original 2019 court orders yesterday. Finally had to go to will Chamberlain. Every fucking story about this straight up lies about those orders. Virtually all also lie about the SCOTUS ruling.

        1. Jefferson Paul   4 months ago

          I've also noticed in the media many headlines that "unintentionally" imply he was a US citizen. Even the one linked in the article above lists him as a "Maryland man."

    3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

      Look, imposing harsh consequences on those who terrorize society, who murder and rape and steal, is fine by me. But callous disregard for due process and for using the courts to actually suss out who is guilty and who is not (and what type of sentence they deserve based on their crimes) is unacceptable.

      He had due process. Twice. Stop with your lying bullshit Liz. Read the original court documents from 2019.

      https://x.com/willchamberlain/status/1907126470721318969

      1. Mike Parsons   4 months ago

        This is starting to get to "he said Nazi's were fine people!" levels of mass gaslighting by the MSM.

        It seems they feel like they can plug their ears and just keep repeating the mantra of "innocent US citizen father!" they will manifest it into reality.

    4. шинка   4 months ago

      Free Media put out an excellent video a week or so ago, and Amber listed the court cases and evidence against this guy.

      https://youtu.be/81s7qkfwTZo?si=U1YNXqBWF0PxALM-

      Not a single other Reason article about Garcia lists any of this. It's disappointing that Reason's journalism is becoming so shallow.

  34. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   4 months ago

    Colorado Gov. Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians, but between his signing of "the toughest gun control regulations in state history" (CBS News) and his disallowing of the expansion of liquor sales to include grocery stores and big-box retailers (The Colorado Sun), he's seeming a bit like a standard Democrat after all. I've never been much of a fan, truth be told

    Gillespie and Welch are down in the parking lot angrily letting the air out of Liz's tires.

    1. Roberta   4 months ago

      I think it's like people were supposed to like John McCain because he didn't get along with his party — or with anybody else AIUI.

  35. I, Woodchipper   4 months ago

    i'm sorry but Nate Silver does not know a single damn thing about what is going on behind the scenes with Trump and his circle and the tariff discussions.

    1. Use the Schwartz   4 months ago

      ^This.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

      That, and Nate Silver is kind of a retard.

    3. Mike Parsons   4 months ago

      Nate Silver is starting to have a similar schtick to the Big Short guy. Got something right at one point, and now coasts on that success indefinitely.

  36. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

    Bessent: a bright spot? "A lot of people say it and don't really mean it, and I think he means it," Sassan Ghahramani, founder and CEO of SGH Macro Advisers, who has known Scott Bessent for many years, told Politico of the Treasury secretary's belief that federal spending and the debt must be gotten under control. "The primary motivation for Scott to want this job is I think he wants to have a legacy of having improved the debt dynamics of the United States," said another friend.

    Poor Shrike. He initially praised Bessent but has had to turn against him after his pay masters went negative.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   4 months ago

      Liar. Just yesterday I posted Bessent is the "only adult in the room" bit.

      This is a historically bad cabinet.

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   4 months ago

        Try reading the posts you respond to.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

          When has he ever done that? He doesn't even read his own links.

        2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   4 months ago

          The liar said I "turned against Bessent".

          On the contrary I support him more than ever. He is the only adult in the room.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 months ago

            turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

        No, Turd, you’re the liar here, as usual.

      3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 months ago

        turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      4. damikesc   4 months ago

        How does it compare to the prior cabinet?

  37. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

    Speaking of Democrats who sound a bit like libertarians at times, here's our recent Just Asking Questions episode with Derek Thompson, which is worth your time if you care about whether Democrats can course-correct in any meaningful way:

    They can't. Frankenstein monster is already awake.

    What they will do is lie about their goals like Jeff does.

  38. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

    Why is Nate Silver so popular with you guys?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   4 months ago

      He’s as retarded as they are.

    2. Dillinger   4 months ago

      girl crush. only possible answer.

    3. Social Justice is neither   4 months ago

      Same reason they loved Fauci.

  39. Ajsloss   4 months ago

    Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians... he's never struck me as the kind of politician who could get any play whatsoever on a national stage.

    He could get some horseplay with Chase, maybe.

  40. Use the Schwartz   4 months ago

    "Bukele dresses like the manager of a Zara in the valley who asks 19 year olds at the food court if they’ve ever considered modeling."

    Zara/Food Court = Mall
    The Valley = California

    They still have malls in California? That 19 y.o.'s go to? How 1996, it's like a cave man diorama!

    1. mad.casual   4 months ago

      See above, he totally needs to update his sensibilities and get a much more respectable line-of-work fashion like whatever the guys sexually liberating 19 yr. olds to work in a cam house or starting an OMing cult are wearing.

  41. Roberta   4 months ago

    Can anyone here explain what the problem is supposed to be when there's someone who was legally deportable from the USA but was accidentally deported instead of someone else and is now legally residing in another country that doesn't want to release him? If he were brought to the USA, his residing here would be illegal, but he's perfectly legal residing where he is now, so...? It's like the dentist accidentally took out one bad tooth when a different one was expected to be extracted, no? It's not like the patient is worse off without that tooth, and it's not like there's anything else to be done with that tooth.

    1. Social Justice is neither   4 months ago

      The error is he was supposed to be deported, just not to El Salvador due to a gang that no longer exists.

      The deportation order is 5+years old and El Salvador has changed. Best case based on today he should be deported but free, worst case he's deported and sent to the very jail the gang is currently incarcerated in.

      1. damikesc   4 months ago

        The order was also asinine as El Salvador was HIS home country. It is THE place he should return to.

  42. Vernon Depner   4 months ago

    I've said here several times in the last few years that we will eventually need concentration camps for the hundreds of thousands of feral thugs infesting our cities, if we want to create safe and civilized conditions for urban residents, and prevent their chaos and violence from spreading into decent neighborhoods. We're far past the point where standard law enforcement and correctional institutions can address the problem. I'd rather the facilities be here than offshored, but at least we're making a start.

  43. VinniUSMC   4 months ago

    "withholding of removal" status

    Withholding of removal, to where? The only "wrongdoing" here is that he was sent to El Salvador. Sounds like his BS asylum claim was revoked.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   4 months ago

      He never had asylum. The judge denied his asylum.

      1. VinniUSMC   4 months ago

        He had an order "withholding removal to El Salvador". Maybe not asylum, but same BS either way.

  44. VinniUSMC   4 months ago

    seeking the death penalty against him ... was 'explicitly and unapologetically political,'

    Yes, politically motivated death penalty, for his politically motivated act of terrorism. Which should earn him a swift, nationally televised firing squad.

  45. Dillinger   4 months ago

    >>The Trump administration, having been ordered to "facilitate" the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia by a Supreme Court ruling that upheld a federal district judge's decision

    we gotta do this again today with the staff?

  46. Dillinger   4 months ago

    >>"The primary motivation for Scott to want this job is I think he wants to have a legacy of having improved the debt dynamics of the United States," said another friend.

    he looks/sounds entirely more interested in the fix than the legacy.

  47. Medulla Oblongata   4 months ago

    Apropos of nothing above...but seems shrewd. Probably a lot better idea than calling beer drinkers "out of touch" and "fratty" and trying to get a femboy to sell beer.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/twinkies-new-owner-courts-a-novel-group-of-snackers-stoners-d3868528?mod=hp_minor_pos1

    Twinkies’ New Owner Courts a Novel Group of Snackers: Stoners
    J.M. Smucker is hoping to boost sales of Hostess snacks by connecting them to modern cultural moments, like 4/20 cannabis celebrations

    J.M. Smucker is sending a “Munchie Mobile” on a road trip leading up to the unofficial holiday of cannabis on April 20 to promote Hostess brands like Twinkies, Ding Dongs and Donettes.

    Hostess maybe wasn’t quite as relevant or had gotten a little tired from a brand standpoint,” said Smucker Chief Marketing Officer Gail Hollander, adding that Twinkie the Kid is alive but “taking a siesta.”

    Part of the strategy includes moving Hostess closer to popular culture, including 4/20 celebrations, Hollander said.

    The Munchie Mobile truck over the next few weeks will hand out free snacks outside cannabis dispensaries in New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maryland and New Jersey every day at 4:20 p.m., eventually parking for six hours in Brooklyn, N.Y., on 4/20 itself.

    1. Dillinger   4 months ago

      >>a Novel Group of Snackers: Stoners

      novel is not the correct descriptor here, WSJ.

  48. Dillinger   4 months ago

    >>Colorado Gov. Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians

    just Reason. idk if that counts anymore

  49. Dillinger   4 months ago

    >>which is worth your time if you care about whether Democrats can course-correct in any meaningful way

    does anyone care whether those freaks ever show their faces again?

    1. Juliana Frink   4 months ago

      Democrats? Course correct??????

      No. Just no. They have departed reality a long time ago. And even if they suddenly renounce their totalitarian impulse, you can be sure they're lying. We won't be that easily deceived.

      But then, maybe a new generation of democrats, someday, could conceivably discover the libertarian values which stand in total opposition to their current platform - let's say in another 30 or 40 years - then perhaps there will be hope for them. But let them COMPETE with any other major party to see who can be the most libertarian.

      And, by the way, why is Reason suddenly so interested in democrats course correcting anyway? I say let the fuckers die on all those cratered hills they so pathetically cling to.

      1. Dillinger   4 months ago

        >>why is Reason suddenly so interested in democrats course correcting anyway?

        Soros bought the Kochs. no reports on whether he bought the cokes.

  50. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 months ago

    Clown show alert:

    "Joe Biden will speak about Social Security in his return to the national stage"
    [...]
    "Former President Joe Biden returns to the national stage Tuesday to elevate liberal concerns that President Donald Trump's agenda is threatening the health of Social Security."

    His handlers hope he delivers at least a sentence on the subject before wandering off.

  51. Dillinger   4 months ago

    >>writes Nate Silver

    nope.

  52. Dillinger   4 months ago

    >>Lawyers for Luigi Mangione asked a federal court on Friday to bar prosecutors from seeking the death penalty against him

    I will never support state-sanctioned killing but this case makes me consider an exception

  53. Dillinger   4 months ago

    >>Mangione has become, disturbingly, a bit of a folk hero to broad swaths of the left

    ya you guys didn't even get to Stabby McTrackstar down here in Frisco yet.

  54. MWAocdoc   4 months ago

    "if you care about whether Democrats can course-correct in any meaningful way"

    No, I don't care if they can course correct and no, I don't think they can course correct. The only thing that can possibly make any difference in the course American society has been taking would be eliminating the two-party system with extreme prejudice. No, I don't think that's going to happen either - since not even "Reason" or the Libertarian Party or Cato or the Institute for Justice is fighting for it "it any meaningful way." Armchair libertarians ...

  55. MWAocdoc   4 months ago

    "explicitly and unapologetically political"

    Heaven forfend that any prosecutor anywhere in the United States would prosecute based on a political point of view! Where would the United States end up if officials weaponized the law?! Gosh!

  56. damikesc   4 months ago

    "It's all pretty nauseating: the idea that the government can admit to "administrative error"—Abrego Garcia had "withholding of removal" status granted to him in 2019, which meant he was not allowed to be deported to his native country, El Salvador, for credible fear of persecution—but can just deport someone to CECOT, the prison full of actual, legitimately murderous gang members, and just choose not to rectify the mistake. Neither Bukele nor Trump seem to be worried by the possibility of a miscarriage of justice; the imprisonment of a seemingly nonviolent man who has a family waiting for him in the U.S., who fear they'll never be able to see him again."

    Citizen of El Salvador.
    Currently held in El Salvador.

    What the hell should we be doing?

    The courts refused to hear the cases between the states in regards to the 2020 election but WILL chime in on this bullshit? Fuck 'em.

    I'm glad Bukele laughed at Collins for the asinine question. Trump abided by the laughable court order. It is over.

    Get. The. Fuck. Over. It.

  57. Incunabulum   4 months ago

    God, I love ya Ben, but Zelensky's been rocking a T-shirt for years now - soldier cosplay.

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