Homegrowns Are Next
Plus: Luigi trial, Polis sucking, tariff polling, and more...

CECOT for citizens: President Donald Trump met with Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele in the Oval Office yesterday and said his innermost thoughts out loud: "Homegrowns are next. The homegrowns. You gotta build about five more places [like the CECOT prison]. It's not big enough."
"Yeah, we've got space," Bukele responded. Administration officials chuckled in the background. "I'm talking about violent people," Trump had said a few minutes earlier. "I'm talking about really bad people."
"We always have to obey the laws, but we also have homegrown criminals that push people into subways, that hit elderly ladies on the back of the head with a baseball bat when they're not looking, that are absolute monsters," said Trump.
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Attorney General Pam Bondi is reportedly considering legal mechanisms by which Trump could send American citizens to El Salvador's infamous Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo.
David Bier, a Cato Institute immigration expert, told NBC News that Trump's comments show how "absolutely critical it is for the courts to put an immediate stop to this extrajudicial imprisonment by foreign proxy."
"U.S. citizens may not be deported to imprisonment abroad. There is no authority for that in any U.S. law," noted Bier. "The U.S. government has already deported someone to this prison illegally and claimed no recourse to get them back, so the courts must shut down this unconstitutional train wreck before U.S. citizens are unlawfully caught up in it."
The Trump administration's CECOT fetish is disturbing. Officials keep visiting it and using it for photo ops, like Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem's little press tour a few weeks ago (which generated lots of social media content for the administration). "If you come to our country illegally, this is one of the consequences you could face," said Noem in a video. "First of all, do not come to our country illegally. You will be removed and you will be prosecuted. But know that this facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that we will use if you commit crimes against the American people."
CECOT keeps prisoners in brutal conditions, with basic medical care and hygiene denied; it faces severe overcrowding. Many of the people imprisoned are the most awful violent criminals, those responsible for El Salvador's decades-long high murder rate, who have brutally ripped families apart and terrorized the communities from which they come. But it's not just violent criminals Bukele has imprisoned: "Cecot houses both convicted criminals and those still going through El Salvador's court system," reports CNN. "With many constitutional rights suspended under El Salvador's years-long state of emergency, some people have been detained by mistake, President Nayib Bukele has admitted; several thousand of them have already been released."
Abrego Garcia still not returned: The Trump administration, having been ordered to "facilitate" the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia by a Supreme Court ruling that upheld a federal district judge's decision, is throwing its hands up in the air and claiming it can't really do anything to free him from CECOT—despite the fact that Bukele was in the Oval Office yesterday. "The question is preposterous. How can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States?" Bukele, seated next to Trump, told reporters yesterday. "I don't have the power to return him to the United States." Bukele is referring to the fact that the Trump administration has designated the MS-13 gang a foreign terrorist organization; never mind the fact that the evidence linking Abrego Garcia to MS-13 has been extraordinarily light, originating from a slapdash police report that appears to rely on some dude in a Home Depot parking lot's claim to cops, and the idea that he's affiliated with the Brentwood, New York, "Western" clique—"a place he has never lived," per the district judge overseeing his case. (Seriously.)
"In a court filing Monday evening, Joseph Mazzara, the acting general counsel for the Department of Homeland Security, said it 'does not have authority to forcibly extract' Abrego Garcia from El Salvador because he is 'in the domestic custody of a foreign sovereign nation,'" per the Associated Press.
It's all pretty nauseating: the idea that the government can admit to "administrative error"—Abrego Garcia had "withholding of removal" status granted to him in 2019, which meant he was not allowed to be deported to his native country, El Salvador, for credible fear of persecution—but can just deport someone to CECOT, the prison full of actual, legitimately murderous gang members, and just choose not to rectify the mistake. Neither Bukele nor Trump seem to be worried by the possibility of a miscarriage of justice; the imprisonment of a seemingly nonviolent man who has a family waiting for him in the U.S., who fear they'll never be able to see him again.
Look, imposing harsh consequences on those who terrorize society, who murder and rape and steal, is fine by me. But callous disregard for due process and for using the courts to actually suss out who is guilty and who is not (and what type of sentence they deserve based on their crimes) is unacceptable. If we choose to ignore our constitutional guarantees of due process, what do we have left?
Trump admin officials who have conceded that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was erroneously removed to El Salvador:
1. Solicitor General John Sauer, in a filing at SCOTUS
2. ICE official Robert Cerna, in a sworn declaration
3. DOJ lawyer Erez Reuveni, in court filings and at a hearing https://t.co/bBJSNXfPbo pic.twitter.com/68iRkVa14s
— Anna Bower (@AnnaBower) April 14, 2025
Bessent: a bright spot? "A lot of people say it and don't really mean it, and I think he means it," Sassan Ghahramani, founder and CEO of SGH Macro Advisers, who has known Scott Bessent for many years, told Politico of the Treasury secretary's belief that federal spending and the debt must be gotten under control. "The primary motivation for Scott to want this job is I think he wants to have a legacy of having improved the debt dynamics of the United States," said another friend.
Politico's Victoria Guida explains the Bessent theory as this: "You cut spending through Congress—meaningfully, which will help cool inflation, but gradually so as not to snuff out growth. You use tax cuts and deregulation to help offset the drag on the economy. And you use tariffs to raise revenue and diversify employment opportunities in the private sector that can be taken by people leaving government jobs." It's anyone's guess as to whether something like this would work—and whether the rest of the Trump administration assents. But attempting to parse Bessent's views, and understand the long game for him, seems worthwhile given the power he's amassed (and the fact that the more I try to understand his counterparts, like trade adviser Peter Navarro and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, the more I want to pull my hair out).
Scenes from New York: "Lawyers for Luigi Mangione asked a federal court on Friday to bar prosecutors from seeking the death penalty against him, arguing that Attorney General Pam Bondi's recently announced decision to do so was 'explicitly and unapologetically political,'" reports The New York Times. Mangione has been charged with the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside the New York Hilton Midtown, which happened this past December.
Mangione has become, disturbingly, a bit of a folk hero to broad swaths of the left, including journalist Taylor Lorenz—formerly of The Washington Post and The New York Times—who described the allure as "here's this man who, who's a revolutionary, who's famous, who's handsome, who's young, who's smart—he's a person that seems like a morally good man, which is hard to find." He does not seem morally good to me.
More background here:
QUICK HITS
- Colorado Gov. Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians, but between his signing of "the toughest gun control regulations in state history" (CBS News) and his disallowing of the expansion of liquor sales to include grocery stores and big-box retailers (The Colorado Sun), he's seeming a bit like a standard Democrat after all. I've never been much of a fan, truth be told, and he's never struck me as the kind of politician who could get any play whatsoever on a national stage.
- Speaking of Democrats who sound a bit like libertarians at times, here's our recent Just Asking Questions episode with Derek Thompson, which is worth your time if you care about whether Democrats can course-correct in any meaningful way:
- "Trump kept pushing buttons until something broke in a way that was obvious enough for even him to notice; hence the rapid-fire policy changes, which reflect panic as much as anything else," writes Nate Silver (JAQ episode here) in a long piece on the four factions of Trump 2.0, and how their different interests are part of what's creating tariff whiplash. "The job of the other factions is to persuade Trump that tariffs like these aren't even in his own best interest, and they're probably right about that: a Conservative Golden Age will be much less likely if Trump's second term is primarily defined by economic turmoil. But good luck trying to persuade him after years of kissing his butt."
- All about how fruitcake became big in space, from one of my favorite bakers, Bronwen Wyatt.
- Ha:
Bukele dresses like the manager of a Zara in the valley who asks 19 year olds at the food court if they've ever considered modeling pic.twitter.com/0UMrFUQo3W
— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) April 14, 2025
- Wow:
Wow. Tariffs have moved ahead of immigration as a top concern to American voters, per a new survey from @EchelonInsights. pic.twitter.com/ZaR1D8rW4f
— John W Lettieri (@LettieriDC) April 14, 2025
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Homegrowns are next. The homegrowns. You gotta build about five more places [like the CECOT prison]. It's not big enough.
Bring the imprisoning industry back to America.
Wrong place
Off-shoring American jobs... jeez I wish he'd make up his mind.
The prisoners will pay a tariff, so it’s all good.
Like with prisoner exchanges with Russia?
If we had tariffs we would have had a better deal than one global arms merchant for one old wnba player.
She can dunk!
*could
Hadn't in years.
Also waiting for the WNBA racism articles after for the 2nd year in a row a white woman went 1st overall.
So, once we're deporting homegrown criminals do the immigration experts shut up or is this the sort of situation where, suddenly, there are no sides and it's about who is an expert and who's not.
the quicker we get to Death Race the better idc where it takes place.
Make Alcatraz Great Again
"We always have to obey the laws, but we also have homegrown criminals that push people into subways, that hit elderly ladies on the back of the head with a baseball bat when they're not looking, that are absolute monsters," said Trump.
Can we finally address the problem of old ladies not keeping their heads on a swivel?
But what if you have flashbacks to your T-ball days and that head on a swivel is just so triggering?
What do the voices in your head tell you to do?
Murder my parents so I can buy explosives with their money and blow up Trump.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/wisconsin-teen-accused-of-murdering-parents-as-part-of-plot-to-assassinate-trump?author=Leif+Le+Mahieu&category=News&elementPosition=8&row=3&rowHeadline=Latest+News&rowType=Vertical+Carousel&title=Wisconsin+Teen+Accused+Of+Murdering+Parents+As+Part+Of+Plot+To+Assassinate+Trump
Solid planning.
I'm thinking this young individual never would have been very successful at anything.
I don't know, they only speak Spanish.
Damn. Immigrants doing the thinking Americans won't do.
Sounds like we might need to find your t-ball coach and deport him.
my first baseball coach did federal time for corruption lol.
I've seen this movie. But it was with hockey.
it was in New Orleans ... most people did federal time for corruption
Attorney General Pam Bondi is reportedly considering legal mechanisms by which Trump could send American citizens to El Salvador's infamous Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo.
I remember the days when "reportedly" meant something.
It is hard for today's low skilled 'reports' to use according to anonymous sources. 'Reportly' is way fewer key strokes.
And even fewer efforts to find and confirm an actual source.
"Lies" uses even fewer - - - - - - - -
“Some might say” is my personal favorite.
It means the same thing it's always meant: that's what's being reported by the media, which makes it more accurate than the truth.
MSNBC said something so the something becomes truth.
Look at how right they were about all those anti trump stories like Russia, fine good people, and loser soldiers.
"reportedly" means "I'm going to make up something and try to pawn it off as a rumor".
And it helps to use the word "literal". Like "reportedly, Trump is literally Hitler!"
Are they giving out free lobotomies to journalists nowadays?
I thought that was a job requirement.
U.S. citizens may not be deported to imprisonment abroad.
Not without obtaining a Real ID first, they can't.
Been wondering if black people are not going to be able to go on airplanes since they have SO MUCH DIFFICULTY getting an id?
They also don't know how to get on the internet
Not enough wifi in the slave quarters?
Or what a computer is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL25XyLL_lY
Domestic flights still dont require any ID. But you'll get extra screening without it.
I'm not seeing that. I just searched and the results all said domestic flights too will require a Real ID.
They also can't masterbate using pornhub if they live in Utah.
What makes it real? Is the fake ID in the room with us right now?
You degenerate scum celebrate murderers and punish normal people then get all shocked when the consequences aren't a warm hug? GFY you evil narcissistic nihilists. You deserve every bit of the world you wish on others and you deserve to get it good and hard.
"Bukele dresses like the manager of a Zara in the valley who asks 19 year olds at the food court if they’ve ever considered modeling"
"Ha Ha!
El Salvador's president's suit are hickish, and not as fancy as mine, nor as dreamy as Zelenskyy's Lulu lemon battlewear."
What about Kid Rock's Canadian tuxedo?
That's formal wear up here.
How does that compare to fancy dress in Alaska (new Carhartts--no duct tape)?
The Canadian tuxedo is C-suite Toronto. Clean new Carhartts is Edmonton evening wear.
Full Fond Du Lac: Wader overalls, no shirt.
That's fancier dress than the Fond Du Lac that I know: https://www.fonddulac.ca/
Kid Rock does hail from the eleventh province.
Michigan: Lower Canadia
But with more guns.
He grew up about 45 minutes from where I live. Can confirm.
Lots of guns! Pew pew.
The selectively-contextually-oblivious boomer fashion take is hilarious the other way as well.
Managing retail while "prospecting 19 yr. old models" is hilariously disreputable all the way down to the point that even people who dress similarly should be embarrassed.
Anybody dressed like him needs to get a real, respectable job like producing "Cuties"-style content for Netflix or leasing a Bop House to underage OF models.
Remember, this is the "Diversity is our strength.", "Borders and gender are social constructs.", "We're enlightened *and* tolerant." progressive/civil libertarians playing up this abjectly retarded kayfabe.
LOL:
You mean he's dressed like Harry Sisson?
The Trump administration's CECOT fetish is disturbing.
This is the fucked up shit you get when you let the other side get away with its fucked up shit for years. Those pendulum swings have to get momentum from somewhere.
I don't know how bad it is in the US, but up here Trudeau pulled a California, stopped charging people and emptied the jails of every violent offender, and ordinary citizens have been terrorized for the past two years. Trump's talk is what I hear from everyone right now.
Violent criminals have more rights than common citizens. Especially truckers.
And the swing back is going to be doosie after the first Trump admin response (fairly typical) begot Biden's response.
Somehow you’re forgetting the entire eight years of the corrupt Obama administration.
Obama was pretty typical too when it came to immigration - within Overton. Kids in cages and higher number of deports than Bush. Biden is the outlier.
As Tyler durden said to his mild mannered corporate bot alter ego toward the end of Fight Club: “Take some responsibility!”
For the open borders crowd that would require backing away from the self serving virtue signaling, and yeah, no, that ain’t gonna happen. Haha.
You know who else does some Polis sucking?
ENB?
KMW?
Jeff was pretty special yesterday.
is it possible to ... feel rage through a screen?
Jeffy sure seems to express rage through the screen enough.
Rage eating for sure.
The Jacket certainly swallows Polis' baby batter.
The Trump administration, having been ordered to "facilitate" the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia by a Supreme Court ruling that upheld a federal district judge's decision, is throwing its hands up in the air and claiming it can't really do anything to free him from CECOT...
You bitch when we tariff countries onto submission, you bitch when we don't tariff countries into submission. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS.
Does Liz think we're going to send special forces into El Salvador to recover...an El Salvadoran citizen?
No matter how much she bitches, Trump COMPLETELY abided by the court order.
In a court filing Monday evening, Joseph Mazzara, the acting general counsel for the Department of Homeland Security, said it 'does not have authority to forcibly extract' Abrego Garcia from El Salvador...
How far U.S. special forces have fallen.
"U.S. citizens may not be deported to imprisonment abroad. There is no authority for that in any U.S. law," noted Bier. "The U.S. government has already deported someone to this prison illegally and claimed no recourse to get them back, so the courts must shut down this unconstitutional train wreck before U.S. citizens are unlawfully caught up in it."
Why not reconsider exile for most serious but not capital offenses? Is it more libertarian (and reasonable) to lock people up for a few years?
Worked for Polanski, maybe not so much for the victims though. Would mostly depend on where they are exiled to pass muster here.
Would mostly depend on where they are exiled to pass muster here.
Define 'here'. Not Iran, Myanmar, Azerbaijan, Venezuela, or Philadelphia.
That depends on the definition of define.
Channeling your inner Slick Willie?
Greenland. Can't you all see it. And send those who don't or won't live as civilized human beings The drug addicts who wander the streets. It is the only practical thing to do to solve those lying flat. No one working wants to keep paying for it. Greenland can be nice for a couple of weeks of the year. I hear.
Just a bit.
It’s an ancient solution. The Romans used to exile people for x number of years.
absolutely critical it is for the courts to put an immediate stop to this extrajudicial imprisonment by foreign proxy
El Salvador imprisoning one of its own citizens is now extrajudicial imprisonment by foreign proxy.
We have reached peak stupid here at Reeeeason.
They sadly don't even see how ridiculous they sound.
Keep pointing it out, they had no issue with the abuses against J6 non violent protestors. Year in jail without a hearing. Kept in isolation. 9-0 USSC ruling against the charges Garland chose to use.
They care for the out group illegals and gang members more so that citizens. And they claim morality for that.
Well, Reason has always supported illegals over Americans. That is just their brand.
Peak stupid? I'll take that bet.
So, if Reason wasn't soooo stupid, they would be CLAMORING to outsource the torture of USA citizens? Without the ability to fix mistaken convictions? How evil can You get?
You sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevaturd people rant and rave for always MORE punishment for poor people here and abroad! STOP, Ye PervFectly say, STOP allowing dirt-poor people abroad to make dirt-poor wages… Which pay they are happy to get… Making clothes and toys etc. for Americans. Jobs which can NEVER be affordably brought back here to the USA, if we are honest about shit!
Meanwhile we ALSO punish hard-working poor people in the USA by preventing them from buying affordable clothes-toys etc.!
ALSO meanwhile, the prices of fashionable dresses for Trump’s Queen Spermy Daniels and His-Her matching Harem and Wives and Daughters and Ex-Wives and VAST flocks of sheep, goats, donkeys, horses, llamas, geese, and hamsters… These dresses becum more expensive, butt for Donald and RICH Trumpanzees, this merely multiplies the “conspicuous cuntsumption” value of said dresses!
PUNISHING all of the world’s poor is GREAT for red-meat scape-goat “American” values!
Butt then when we OUTSOURCE the torture chambers and "Gulag Archipelagos" of the world to third-world nations… To HELL with “good jerbs for Good American prison slave-drivers and torture-chamber experts”… then Ye PervFected sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevaturds are ALL on board with shit!!!
Twat exactly ARE yer “principles” anyway, besides POWER and PUNISHMENT?
Reason hardest hit:
Latest Harvard Harris poll shows OVERWHELMING support for Trump policies:
74% for deporting illegals
70% for closing the border
69% for DOGE
65% to ban trans men from girl sports
57% for ending foreign aid
57% for reciprocal tariffs
53% for Alaska drilling
Say a prayer for poor Sarcasmic.
65% to ban trans men from girl sports
Don't those bigots know that's all subjective? -chemjeff
Who cast these opinions/votes?
[mezzo-soprano shrieks] She did! She did! [Tone sinks to falsetto bass] He did! He did!
I'm going to presume I missed the ads from the DNC encouraging the cross-dressing husbands of oppressive, conservative TERF wives to secretly vote in favor of trans men in women's sports.
Hell, I'm shocked the WNBA has not tried to get trannies into their sport.
Outside chance it might become watchable.
The coach of my alma mater's womens' basketball team, Dawn Staley, supports trannies in womens' sports. I hope to see the Lady Gamecocks play a team with 2 or so trannies and get curb-stomped. She will then bitch and moan on the unfairness.
You want more "women" with cocks to join the Lady Gamecocks?
Sorry, I'm showing squirlsy level of maturity, but the lame joke presented itself and I couldn't resist.
Very much so. Given that they cannot beat the not-good-at-all men's Cocks team, trannies would run roughshod on them.
Just for the record, there is no such thing as 'trans men'.
They are men.
True, they can't deal with reality, but they are still men, and always will be.
I'm still confused. I thought trans men were born women and trans women were born men.
The official nomenclature for the left is that trans men were born female (or "assigned female at birth") who now identify as men. You were correct; the X post is actually referring to "trans women." The poll question says something like "students who were born male..."
No such thing as chicks with dicks, only dudes with tits.
There are also guys with pies.
Eunuchs and Newnucks.
Sure. A prayer for Sarcasmic:
Our Father, please take pity on your village idiot, Sarc. He knows not how to use debate terminology, unknowing as he is about tu quoque, ad hominem, strawmen, and false equivalencies. Please show him the way to the light (beer). Amen
Harvard is usually around +8 dems too.
"With many constitutional rights suspended under El Salvador's years-long state of emergency, some people have been detained by mistake, President Nayib Bukele has admitted; several thousand of them have already been released."
You know which other countries have fucked with people by declaring states of emergency?
Illinois, California, Minnesota, New York…
I will take "violation of Constitutional rights" over "Being murdered routinely".
Like it or not, he has improved El Salvador exponentially.
"here's this man who, who's a revolutionary, who's famous, who's handsome, who's young, who's smart—he's a person that seems like a morally good man, which is hard to find."
Why's it always ladies that have the biggest murder boner?
Because murderers tend to dress fashionably?
Bitches be crazy?
Bitches be crazy.
They are the prime demographic for the A&E murder shows.
While they claim they want beta cuck democrat eapist male feminists, evolution still prefers they want strong men. This is their out while being virtuous demanding the cucks.
They want both. They want a bull to father the child and a nice steer to raise it.
Men have a different but similar strategy where they want to spread their seed by inseminating as many random whores as they can and leaving them to fate, and at the same time investing their time and energy into raising one select female's offspring.
Society has put a penalty on the male dual strategy with child support, but there's nothing to penalize women for theirs.
Posted yesterday under Bernie at Coachella...
https://www.sfgate.com/sf-culture/article/calif-punk-stalwarts-army-of-luigis-coachella-20274319.php
California punk rockers call for an 'army of Luigis' during brash Coachella set
Shortly after ending a blistering rendition of “Coup D’Etat” during their Coachella set, Circle Jerks frontman Keith Morris made a clarification to the moshing crowd. Although that last song ended with the words “kill all,” he made a point to say that the band does not condone what it describes, including kidnapping government leaders for ransom and leading a coup. “That song, that last line, ends with ‘kill all.’ That’s a pretty f—king ugly statement,” Morris said. “In ugly times. Do not think that we encourage that.”
Then, Morris went in a different direction. “What we do encourage — what would be totally f—king happening — would be an army of Luigis,” he said, in reference to Luigi Mangione, who is currently facing both federal and New York state charges for the alleged killing of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson late last year.
Needz more meteors.
Morally good except for being judge, jury and executioner of a man whi was judged to be evil because he was CEO od a health insurance company.
"Revolutionary" and "good morals" rarely go together.
He's not even that revolutionary either. It's an opinion from the singular "perennially trapped in her own head Black Mirror-style" stupid cat lady, Taylor Lorenz.
Unless his goal was to revolutionize the way insurance executives think about personal security, he didn't do dick.
That murder is a coward and an idiot.
He's a coward because he assassinated someone by shooting them in the back and didn't have the courage to face them and look them in the eye. What a little pussy coward this twat is.
He's an idiot because during the whole time between the assassination and when he got caught he held onto all of the evidence to convict him. Any mouth breather with half a brain would have ditched all of the evidence and maybe tried to do an appearance change and lay low. No, this rocket scientist went to a friggin' McDonald's carrying all of the evidence needed to convict him. Smooth brained progressive idiot.
Anyone elevating this criminal needs to be tuned out or incessantly mocked for being abjectly stupid for endorsing an assassin. So I guess for these people, assassination is the new "it" thing. I hope it backfires on all of them.
He didn't think anybody would even care to look for him.
+1 Your average gangster rapper is more heroically and intelligently revolutionary.
I'm not convinced he did it. The whole situation seemed so prepared.
Let's see how his trial pans out. Without knowing all of the evidence against him, the things that have been currently shared aren't looking good for him.
But I'm always interested in a good conspiracy theory; care to share more?
The evidence is too pat. And then they find him just waiting, conveniently with everything they need to identify him? Also, there are multiple pictures, supposedly of him, but questionable in my opinion. I think he was set up as the fall guy, whether he pulled the trigger or not.
Did it? Yes. On his own? Unlikely.
Fair
I think it is funny that his lawyers think Bondi stating she will be seeking the death penalty should be forbidden because it is political.
Tucker: Chicks love a guy who's rebellious. You should try and act rebellious to impress them.
Caboose: Power to the people! The working man needs to rise up and overthrow their bourgeoisie oppressors!
Tucker: I said 'rebellious', not 'revolutionary'.
Even John Wayne Gacy had female Pen pals.
It's all pretty nauseating: the idea that the government can admit to "administrative error..."
Authorities admitting a mistake. This is more than most Americans get from federal prosecutors. I love that the press is focusing on this one injustice while roundly ignoring - if not cheering - the countless other
Meh. Fuck it.
Not one judge admitted their mistake using the law scotus ruled invalid for j6. Most doubled down and said the 20 year threat didn't effect the plea agreements.
Boasberg was one of those judges, specifically. Reason has never had an issue with him.
Shouldn't be too hard to admit the mistake of deporting him to the wrong country. Pick him up in El Salvadore and drop him off in one of the other countries accepting 3rd country deportees, or bring him back and hold him in Gitmo until Dems can find the "due process" needed to release him. Dude was here illegally, violated terms of his asylum process, had deportation orders, and was a "fugitive" from those standing deportation order. Removing him from the US was not a mistake, sending him to the one country immigration judge who ordered his deportation said not to send him to was.
Removing him from the US was not a mistake, sending him to the one country immigration judge who ordered his deportation said not to send him to was.
Was it? This looks to me like Trump testing the waters, seeing if he can get away with defying judges, and seeing if his cult will defend him. So far so good.
More guesswork on your part.
Like the illegal defied his final deportation orders? Like the judge defying SCOTUS?
I do love watching you call others in a cult while crying like a leftist bitch for pointing out you're a Democrat.
"seeing if he can get away with defying judge"
Sarc's been warning about this since January. One day, Sarckles, one day.
And the years prior he demanded illegals ignore judges and laws because they were immoral ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"You cut spending through Congress—meaningfully, which will help cool inflation, but gradually so as not to snuff out growth. You use tax cuts and deregulation to help offset the drag on the economy. And you use tariffs to raise revenue and diversify employment opportunities in the private sector that can be taken by people leaving government jobs."
He used the t word.
'Colorado Gov. Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians, but between his signing of "the toughest gun control regulations in state history" (CBS News) and his disallowing of the expansion of liquor sales to include grocery stores and big-box retailers (The Colorado Sun), he's seeming a bit like a standard Democrat after all. I've never been much of a fan, truth be told, and he's never struck me as the kind of politician who could get any play whatsoever on a national stage.'
But in the unstoppable trend of the californication of Colorado, Polis provided a few brief moments of delay. Whoever comes next (Sen. Non-entity Bennett?) will likely be much worse.
What you call delay i call cover. He was always incrementally going California.
If claiming to be libertarian got him a "free" 1% bump in the vote, it was worth it for him to make the claims.
Lawyers for Luigi Mangione asked a federal court on Friday to bar prosecutors from seeking the death penalty against him, arguing that Attorney General Pam Bondi's recently announced decision to do so was 'explicitly and unapologetically political'...
Lol. Like the death penalty's use was ever anything but.
Was the death penalty Luigi impliment Ed political?
They caught someone outside of UHC campus yesterday trying for Luigi 2.
Meh. Sequels are never as good.
His outrage is likely in another castle anyways.
He also murdered a guy in public on camera in what was CLEARLY first degree murder.
If she was not seeking the death penalty, I'd be irate.
I don’t want him to get the death penalty but only because it will a. turn him into a martyr and b. while he is waiting for all his appeals he will be held in solitary. I want him to get a good long sentence in general population…a nice lookin young fella like him will have a gay ol time in gen pop. By the time he gets out I am bettin he won’t have as many women fawning over him. Also what is Stanning?
Taylor Lorenz—formerly of The Washington Post and The New York Times—who described the allure as "here's this man who, who's a revolutionary, who's famous, who's handsome, who's young, who's smart—he's a person that seems like a morally good man, which is hard to find." He does not seem morally good to me.
A morally good man because he shot a rich guy in the back. These same people wanted Rittenhouse sent to Gitmo for defending himself.
We are getting so close.
Rittenhouse killed violent rioters, and violent rioters are their heroes.
They do not have the same outrage against the McMichaels.
Hell, he had the kind of trigger discipline we would KILL for cops to have. He did not hit anybody who was NOT actively attacking him.
Him being not guilty sucked - sarcasmic
If we choose to ignore our constitutional guarantees of due process, what do we have left?
Which due process guarantees are we ignoring? The judge who ordered him deported, which he ignored for several months, or the Resist! judge who use the "Honey, get muh pearls" clause to stay the deportion to *checks notes* only El Salvador, but still ordered deported?
Months? Almost 6 years.
"The job of the other factions is to persuade Trump that tariffs like these aren't even in his own best interest, and they're probably right about that: a Conservative Golden Age will be much less likely if Trump's second term is primarily defined by economic turmoil. But good luck trying to persuade him after years of kissing his butt."
If only they could be like Democrats, and install a senile old man, who provides cover for a barely-hidden cabal of motivated experts and college interns.
Can we have a discussion about how the economy, but not the government, should work practically no matter which buttons which President pushes or is that in "We don't talk about that." pocket alongside the "We funded a global pandemic *and* a kleptocracy that blew up NATO infrastructure... and we may've brainwashed and castrated some children."?
Reading the chain of tweets about Trump's physical results was hilarious, so many diagnoses of dementia and claims of quackery on the part of the physician. The same people who said Biden was perfectly fine and "the best version of Biden" whom interns could not keep up with...
“Trust the experts “!
The Democrat's support was never real. It was all stolen from taxpayers.
USAID: David Hogg’s gun control group had a drastic collapse in donations via ActBlue immediately following Trump’s closure of USAID. As a result, March for Our Lives has had to layoff almost all of its staff.
Funny how all of those NGO's are just Democratic entities laundering money.
But sending an illegal back to his home country is the worst thing ever.
Funny how Reason hasn't written a single article about how all of those NGO's are laundering USAID money.
Makes me wonder who's funding this shit.
Ol' Koch found a way to save a buck.
Well they didn't ask Congress.
Why would reason be opposed to Marxist laundering money?
Makes you wonder how they really hit their fundraising goals the last decade or so.
They didn't.
https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/830885411
And how NGO leaders and staff are all spouses and kids of government officials, including judges.
"The Democrat's support was never real. It was all stolen from taxpayers."
Any time a democrat opens his/her trap from now until eternity, this needs to be the first response from any sane person.
They were millions in the hole well before USAID funding cut off. Was a scam on his part the whole way.
Abrego Garcia still not returned
It's pretty wild that the biggest story of the week is how we're not sending the army to break a Salvadorian man out of a Salvadorian prison and smuggle him into the US to live without legal residency.
I loved Miller pointing out that, best case scenario --- he STILL is not coming here. He would STILL go elsewhere.
"Colorado Gov. Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians"
Reason liberaltarians, maybe...
Well, he is Governor McDreamy to most of them, including Sullum, Boehm, KMW, etc.
What reason libritarians?
You misspelled "libertinians".
Liberal-tarians?
Colorado Gov. Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians...
But not all, and we're finding out why now.
Two outcomes from the new laws. Which violate Section 242 of Title 18.
1. Someone who needs a firearm for self defense won't be able to get it in time and will lose their life.
2. Someone dedicated to a mass murder will attend the required firearm training. Actually aquire some skills and will be much more successful killing many more people than they would have without the training.
Trump kept pushing buttons until something broke in a way that was obvious enough for even him to notice; hence the rapid-fire policy changes, which reflect panic as much as anything else...
Mandates can be a heady elixir.
As I indicated above, all the pod-sleeping, cricket-eating, child-castrating, pipeline-exploding, vaccinating policy was going great until the man elected to press all the buttons labeled "Do not touch." pressed "the one button" (but not the *The Button*) that shouldn't be pressed.
"Bukele dresses like the manager of a Zara in the valley who asks 19 year olds at the food court if they’ve ever considered modeling
But asking a US Senator to *not* wear sweats to the Senate floor was some huge offensive thing.
Fashion police are very fickle..
Reason Magazine should be renamed "Sneer Magazine".
Their essence is adolescence.
He looks more like a henchman from a show like Burn Notice or Blacklist.
I fucking loved Burn Notice, even if it was so over the top.
Wow. Tariffs have moved ahead of immigration as a top concern to American voters...
Corporate journalism, you haven't lost your touch.
That's because illegal immigration is down 95% already. It's less of a concern now.
Only leftists complain about higher prices.
Great point sarc. You win the thread.
Can you point out the higher prices?
Why are you ignoring the 1.5T in domestic investment.
I get you being homeless makes you pro welfare, but why do you never consider costs to taxpayers for shipping jobs overseas?
I bet I can also go into any thread on inflation the last 4 years, actual inflation over 20%, and find no complaints from you. I can also post your comments defending payments to illegals raising housing prices.
So your complaint rings hollow.
Sarc can’t remember his latest lie.
Alcohol tends to do that when one imbibes mass quantities of it.
Your trolling is pathetic, Sarc.
No, Sarc, leftists complain about any prices, since anything they consider important is a human right and should be free.
Earth-based Human Skeptic in 2022 - "BIDENFLATION IS KILLING AMERICA!!!"
Earth-based Human Skeptic in 2025 - "SHUT UP ABOUT HIGHER PRICES!!!"
Do you have a citation? Or projecting your own hypocrisy again?
Want me to go to some prior inflation threads and see your criticisms?
I can post your government funded housing for illegals doesn't cause inflation if you want.
You won again sarc!
So now you’re trying out your false equivalencies on other commenters here?
I'll take "shit Sarcasmic just made up" for a thousand, Alex.
There could be a week of episodes using just that category.
Shit, that could be a two-week Tournament of Retards by itself.
Are you going for peak retard?
Team Chemjeff still has a lot of vandalizing, burning and terrorizing to do:
TESLA OUTSOLD THE NEXT 10 EV BRANDS COMBINED IN Q1 2025
Tesla remained far ahead of the competition in Q1 2025, selling 128,100 EVs — more than the next 10 brands combined.
The Model Y and Model 3 continued to lead the charts, showing Tesla’s strong grip on the U.S. electric vehicle market.
Overall, EV sales in the U.S. grew to nearly 300,000 units, with Tesla driving the momentum forward.
Was Tesla dominating more than that last year, in Q1 2024? That would be a better metric than just citing that Tesla is dominating right now. It would show what effect all the hate for Elon is having.
Terrifs are the biggest concern? Wow it's almost like the mainstream media and big tech intentionally push things to promote anti American propaganda
Oddly enough, trumps numbers have gone up since the tariffs started. So not sure what they mean about concern.
Had a work meeting today, the 401K manager got on his knees and cried, begging us not to pull out.
That's what she said
Are "terrifs" a tax on goods sold by TERFs? Better buy your copies of Harry Potter before they go into effect, I guess.
Arsonist who lit Governor's house sounds like MAGA nut that posts here:
A post from January 2021 says in part, “Biden supporters shouldn’t exist. Where were you his first run? Well aware of the trash he is.” Another post from the same month reads in part, “RIP Joe Biden….. Whoops that’s in May, #notmypresidenteither”
....
In September 2021, Balmer posted a meme criticizing Biden’s handling of the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. The meme shows Biden in a car with text that reads, “Get in, loser. We’re leaving Afghanistan.” The next image shows Biden appearing to drive off with text that says “*Drives off without you*”
....
In June 2022, Balmer shared on Facebook what appears to be a photo of a needlepoint illustration of a flaming Molotov cocktail – the same weapon authorities say he used to start the fires at Shapiro’s residence.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/14/politics/cody-balmer-shapiro-arson-suspect-invs/index.html
We get more info about a dude who set a small fire than we did about a Blackrock employee who shot a presidential candidate (and ex-president) while campaigning.
But, but...He shared memes about Joe and Hunter!!!
Somehow you managed to miss where this guy is a socialist.
turd lies; it's what turd does.
turd lies; it's what turd does.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
*Progressive who was mad Biden wasn't socialist enough*
CNN: "History of criticizing Biden"
Buttplug: "hE wAs mAgA"
Gee, molotovs are used by a certain political persuasion.
It ain't the Right.
I'm still waiting on confirmation that he donated to ActBlue to determine that he was a conservative.
The Trump administration, having been ordered to "facilitate" the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia by a Supreme Court ruling that upheld a federal district judge's decision
Liz. Please be better than your coworkers. This remains false no matter how many times you guys say it. The order was to facilitate his release, not return.
This makes you look so dishonest.
It's all pretty nauseating: the idea that the government can admit to "administrative error"—Abrego Garcia had "withholding of removal" status granted to him in 2019, which meant he was not allowed to be deported to his native country, El Salvador, for credible fear of persecution—
The gang he claimed to be in fear from, 18th street gang, no longer exists. What fear is remaining? Why can't you admit he was ordered deported?
Why can't you ask yourself how a judge can deny his asylum claims and at the same time add this condition. Do you think that is a power of the judicial branch?
Pretty safe in El Salvador I hear now. Not sure why but it appears safer than most US cities. I would visit.
Maybe Liz is the one writer that KMW actually edits?
Nah. This time it is blue bubble bias.
It was difficult to find the original 2019 court orders yesterday. Finally had to go to will Chamberlain. Every fucking story about this straight up lies about those orders. Virtually all also lie about the SCOTUS ruling.
I've also noticed in the media many headlines that "unintentionally" imply he was a US citizen. Even the one linked in the article above lists him as a "Maryland man."
Look, imposing harsh consequences on those who terrorize society, who murder and rape and steal, is fine by me. But callous disregard for due process and for using the courts to actually suss out who is guilty and who is not (and what type of sentence they deserve based on their crimes) is unacceptable.
He had due process. Twice. Stop with your lying bullshit Liz. Read the original court documents from 2019.
https://x.com/willchamberlain/status/1907126470721318969
This is starting to get to "he said Nazi's were fine people!" levels of mass gaslighting by the MSM.
It seems they feel like they can plug their ears and just keep repeating the mantra of "innocent US citizen father!" they will manifest it into reality.
Free Media put out an excellent video a week or so ago, and Amber listed the court cases and evidence against this guy.
https://youtu.be/81s7qkfwTZo?si=U1YNXqBWF0PxALM-
Not a single other Reason article about Garcia lists any of this. It's disappointing that Reason's journalism is becoming so shallow.
Colorado Gov. Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians, but between his signing of "the toughest gun control regulations in state history" (CBS News) and his disallowing of the expansion of liquor sales to include grocery stores and big-box retailers (The Colorado Sun), he's seeming a bit like a standard Democrat after all. I've never been much of a fan, truth be told
Gillespie and Welch are down in the parking lot angrily letting the air out of Liz's tires.
I think it's like people were supposed to like John McCain because he didn't get along with his party — or with anybody else AIUI.
i'm sorry but Nate Silver does not know a single damn thing about what is going on behind the scenes with Trump and his circle and the tariff discussions.
^This.
That, and Nate Silver is kind of a retard.
Nate Silver is starting to have a similar schtick to the Big Short guy. Got something right at one point, and now coasts on that success indefinitely.
Bessent: a bright spot? "A lot of people say it and don't really mean it, and I think he means it," Sassan Ghahramani, founder and CEO of SGH Macro Advisers, who has known Scott Bessent for many years, told Politico of the Treasury secretary's belief that federal spending and the debt must be gotten under control. "The primary motivation for Scott to want this job is I think he wants to have a legacy of having improved the debt dynamics of the United States," said another friend.
Poor Shrike. He initially praised Bessent but has had to turn against him after his pay masters went negative.
Liar. Just yesterday I posted Bessent is the "only adult in the room" bit.
This is a historically bad cabinet.
Try reading the posts you respond to.
When has he ever done that? He doesn't even read his own links.
The liar said I "turned against Bessent".
On the contrary I support him more than ever. He is the only adult in the room.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
No, Turd, you’re the liar here, as usual.
turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
How does it compare to the prior cabinet?
Speaking of Democrats who sound a bit like libertarians at times, here's our recent Just Asking Questions episode with Derek Thompson, which is worth your time if you care about whether Democrats can course-correct in any meaningful way:
They can't. Frankenstein monster is already awake.
What they will do is lie about their goals like Jeff does.
Why is Nate Silver so popular with you guys?
He’s as retarded as they are.
girl crush. only possible answer.
Same reason they loved Fauci.
Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians... he's never struck me as the kind of politician who could get any play whatsoever on a national stage.
He could get some horseplay with Chase, maybe.
"Bukele dresses like the manager of a Zara in the valley who asks 19 year olds at the food court if they’ve ever considered modeling."
Zara/Food Court = Mall
The Valley = California
They still have malls in California? That 19 y.o.'s go to? How 1996, it's like a cave man diorama!
See above, he totally needs to update his sensibilities and get a much more respectable line-of-work fashion like whatever the guys sexually liberating 19 yr. olds to work in a cam house or starting an OMing cult are wearing.
Can anyone here explain what the problem is supposed to be when there's someone who was legally deportable from the USA but was accidentally deported instead of someone else and is now legally residing in another country that doesn't want to release him? If he were brought to the USA, his residing here would be illegal, but he's perfectly legal residing where he is now, so...? It's like the dentist accidentally took out one bad tooth when a different one was expected to be extracted, no? It's not like the patient is worse off without that tooth, and it's not like there's anything else to be done with that tooth.
The error is he was supposed to be deported, just not to El Salvador due to a gang that no longer exists.
The deportation order is 5+years old and El Salvador has changed. Best case based on today he should be deported but free, worst case he's deported and sent to the very jail the gang is currently incarcerated in.
The order was also asinine as El Salvador was HIS home country. It is THE place he should return to.
I've said here several times in the last few years that we will eventually need concentration camps for the hundreds of thousands of feral thugs infesting our cities, if we want to create safe and civilized conditions for urban residents, and prevent their chaos and violence from spreading into decent neighborhoods. We're far past the point where standard law enforcement and correctional institutions can address the problem. I'd rather the facilities be here than offshored, but at least we're making a start.
"withholding of removal" status
Withholding of removal, to where? The only "wrongdoing" here is that he was sent to El Salvador. Sounds like his BS asylum claim was revoked.
He never had asylum. The judge denied his asylum.
He had an order "withholding removal to El Salvador". Maybe not asylum, but same BS either way.
seeking the death penalty against him ... was 'explicitly and unapologetically political,'
Yes, politically motivated death penalty, for his politically motivated act of terrorism. Which should earn him a swift, nationally televised firing squad.
>>The Trump administration, having been ordered to "facilitate" the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia by a Supreme Court ruling that upheld a federal district judge's decision
we gotta do this again today with the staff?
>>"The primary motivation for Scott to want this job is I think he wants to have a legacy of having improved the debt dynamics of the United States," said another friend.
he looks/sounds entirely more interested in the fix than the legacy.
Apropos of nothing above...but seems shrewd. Probably a lot better idea than calling beer drinkers "out of touch" and "fratty" and trying to get a femboy to sell beer.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/twinkies-new-owner-courts-a-novel-group-of-snackers-stoners-d3868528?mod=hp_minor_pos1
Twinkies’ New Owner Courts a Novel Group of Snackers: Stoners
J.M. Smucker is hoping to boost sales of Hostess snacks by connecting them to modern cultural moments, like 4/20 cannabis celebrations
J.M. Smucker is sending a “Munchie Mobile” on a road trip leading up to the unofficial holiday of cannabis on April 20 to promote Hostess brands like Twinkies, Ding Dongs and Donettes.
Hostess maybe wasn’t quite as relevant or had gotten a little tired from a brand standpoint,” said Smucker Chief Marketing Officer Gail Hollander, adding that Twinkie the Kid is alive but “taking a siesta.”
Part of the strategy includes moving Hostess closer to popular culture, including 4/20 celebrations, Hollander said.
The Munchie Mobile truck over the next few weeks will hand out free snacks outside cannabis dispensaries in New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maryland and New Jersey every day at 4:20 p.m., eventually parking for six hours in Brooklyn, N.Y., on 4/20 itself.
>>a Novel Group of Snackers: Stoners
novel is not the correct descriptor here, WSJ.
>>Colorado Gov. Jared Polis gets an awful lot of fanfare from some libertarians
just Reason. idk if that counts anymore
>>which is worth your time if you care about whether Democrats can course-correct in any meaningful way
does anyone care whether those freaks ever show their faces again?
Democrats? Course correct??????
No. Just no. They have departed reality a long time ago. And even if they suddenly renounce their totalitarian impulse, you can be sure they're lying. We won't be that easily deceived.
But then, maybe a new generation of democrats, someday, could conceivably discover the libertarian values which stand in total opposition to their current platform - let's say in another 30 or 40 years - then perhaps there will be hope for them. But let them COMPETE with any other major party to see who can be the most libertarian.
And, by the way, why is Reason suddenly so interested in democrats course correcting anyway? I say let the fuckers die on all those cratered hills they so pathetically cling to.
>>why is Reason suddenly so interested in democrats course correcting anyway?
Soros bought the Kochs. no reports on whether he bought the cokes.
Clown show alert:
"Joe Biden will speak about Social Security in his return to the national stage"
[...]
"Former President Joe Biden returns to the national stage Tuesday to elevate liberal concerns that President Donald Trump's agenda is threatening the health of Social Security."
His handlers hope he delivers at least a sentence on the subject before wandering off.
>>writes Nate Silver
nope.
>>Lawyers for Luigi Mangione asked a federal court on Friday to bar prosecutors from seeking the death penalty against him
I will never support state-sanctioned killing but this case makes me consider an exception
>>Mangione has become, disturbingly, a bit of a folk hero to broad swaths of the left
ya you guys didn't even get to Stabby McTrackstar down here in Frisco yet.
"if you care about whether Democrats can course-correct in any meaningful way"
No, I don't care if they can course correct and no, I don't think they can course correct. The only thing that can possibly make any difference in the course American society has been taking would be eliminating the two-party system with extreme prejudice. No, I don't think that's going to happen either - since not even "Reason" or the Libertarian Party or Cato or the Institute for Justice is fighting for it "it any meaningful way." Armchair libertarians ...
"explicitly and unapologetically political"
Heaven forfend that any prosecutor anywhere in the United States would prosecute based on a political point of view! Where would the United States end up if officials weaponized the law?! Gosh!
"It's all pretty nauseating: the idea that the government can admit to "administrative error"—Abrego Garcia had "withholding of removal" status granted to him in 2019, which meant he was not allowed to be deported to his native country, El Salvador, for credible fear of persecution—but can just deport someone to CECOT, the prison full of actual, legitimately murderous gang members, and just choose not to rectify the mistake. Neither Bukele nor Trump seem to be worried by the possibility of a miscarriage of justice; the imprisonment of a seemingly nonviolent man who has a family waiting for him in the U.S., who fear they'll never be able to see him again."
Citizen of El Salvador.
Currently held in El Salvador.
What the hell should we be doing?
The courts refused to hear the cases between the states in regards to the 2020 election but WILL chime in on this bullshit? Fuck 'em.
I'm glad Bukele laughed at Collins for the asinine question. Trump abided by the laughable court order. It is over.
Get. The. Fuck. Over. It.
God, I love ya Ben, but Zelensky's been rocking a T-shirt for years now - soldier cosplay.