ICE Retracts Threat To Stop Illegal 'Ideas' at the Border
The pro-censorship post was quite the Freudian slip from the Trump administration.

The Trump administration insists that its crackdown on pro-Palestinian students is not an attack on freedom of thought. "This is not about free speech. This is about people that don't have a right to be in the United States to begin with," Secretary of State Marco Rubio said in defense of detaining Columbia University protest spokesman Mahmoud Khalil in March.
But on Thursday, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) said that its job was to stop ideas along with people. "If it crosses the U.S. border illegally, it's our job to stop it. People. Money. Products. Ideas," said the since-deleted social media graphic.
After the statement sparked an uproar, ICE quickly claimed that it was a mistake. "That post was sent without proper approval and should never have been shared," ICE Media Operations Unit Chief Mike Alvarez tells Reason via email. "'Ideas' should have said 'intellectual property.'"
Mistake or not, the post reflects the Trump administration's philosophy that free speech stops at the border. The same day as the ICE post, the Department of Homeland Security announced that it would begin screening foreign students' and immigrants' social media accounts for "antisemitic ideologies" or "terrorist sympathizers."
A couple of days before, the State Department submitted its memo on Khalil's detention to the courts. Although Rubio concedes in the memo that student activism is "otherwise lawful," he argues that the presence of anti-Israel student protesters "undermines U.S. policy to combat anti-Semitism around the world and in the United States."
In other words, it is about free speech. By removing foreigners based on the content of their words, the Trump administration is hoping to change, by force, the range of ideas that Americans can hear. ICE's graphic was a more honest restatement of the position the administration has spent the past few months dancing around.
Decades ago, the Supreme Court ruled that part of free speech is letting Americans hear ideas that they're interested in hearing, even from foreigners. In 1964, Congress ordered the postmaster general to search mail from abroad and detain material that lawmakers deemed "communist political propaganda." The next year, in Lamont v. Postmaster General, the Supreme Court unanimously struck down the law, after an American publisher sued for his right to receive Chinese publications.
Justice William O. Douglas argued in the case that "to control the flow of ideas to the public" would be inherently "at war with the 'uninhibited, robust, and wide-open' debate and discussion that are contemplated by the First Amendment."
The National Coalition Against Censorship, an alliance of nonprofits that includes the American Civil Liberties Union and Association of American Publishers, channeled Douglas in its response to the ICE post.
"No idea is illegal. It is breathtakingly absurd and outrageous to even suggest that ideas need to be policed. And that the promise of the First Amendment—the freedom to think freely—is the bedrock of American values. This post subverts everything our constitution stands for," the coalition wrote.
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Trump has good intentions and the only wrongthink he's trying to criminalize is wrong to think. So that makes it ok. Besides, Democrats did it first.
"nonthink" would a good way to describe 99% of your posts since the election.
Sarcasmic is accurately-honestly speaking the unvarnished TRUTH about what the unthinking emotional tribalistic FEELERS really feelz around here! If the foo shits, wear shit!
Yes, I know, sob-sob, the unvarnished TRUTH can hurt the feelz of the Precious PervFected Darlings! My sobs are with You, Precious One!
More nonthink.
I belong to the data-driven tribe of truth and benevolence, which spans fractions of ALL other tribes, butt clearly does NOT include YOUR Perfectly UGLY (malevolent, narcissistic, power-addicted, self-righteous) ass.
You resent the hell out of the fact that many other people are flat-out, better, more honest people than you are, right? More “live and let live”, and WAAAY less authoritarian?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-love-and-war/201706/why-some-people-resent-do-gooders
From the conclusion to the above…
“These findings suggest that we don’t need to downplay personal triumphs to avoid negative social consequences, as long as we make it clear that we don’t look down on others as a result.”
SQRLSY back here now… So, I do NOT want you to feel BAD about YOU being an authorShitarian asshole, and me NOT being one! PLEASE feel GOOD about you being an evil, lying asshole! You do NOT need to push me (or other REAL lovers of personal liberty) down, so that you can feel better about being an asshole! EVERYONE ADORES you for being that asshole that you are, because, well, because you are YOU! FEEL that self-esteem, now!
"I belong to the
databooze-driven tribe"Fixed.
You belong to the Jesus-killing, Gandhi-killing, MLK-killing Uber-Tribalist-Tribe, and are apparently PROUD of shit!
Mission accomplished! I’ve now shown yet AGAIN that the hordes of small-minded “conservatives” here on these comment pages are intellectually, morally, and spiritually bankrupt! For lack of ANY factual or logical and benevolent-minded response, they variously resort to endlessly repeated lies, grade-school-level vapid insults, and even stoop so low as to encourage the smarter and more benevolent posters to commit suicide! They are indeed vapid and vile vipers!
I for one can’t STAND the idea that a casual reader here of a libertarian news and commenting site would read the vapid and vile comments, and conclude, “Oh, so THAT’s what libertarians are all about!” No, it’s just that REAL libertarians (and VERY few others) still believe in free speech, so the troglodytes come HERE, where their vile lies & vapid insults will NOT be taken down!
The intelligent, well-informed, and benevolent members of tribes have ALWAYS been feared and resented by those who are made to look relatively worse (often FAR worse), as compared to the advanced ones. Especially when the advanced ones denigrate tribalism. The advanced ones DARE to openly mock “MY Tribe’s lies leading to violence against your tribe GOOD! Your tribe’s lies leading to violence against MY Tribe BAD! VERY bad!” And then that’s when the Jesus-killers, Mahatma Gandhi-killers, Martin Luther King Jr.-killers, etc., unsheath their long knives!
“Do-gooder derogation” (look it up) is a socio-biologically programmed instinct. SOME of us are ethically advanced enough to overcome it, using benevolence and free will! For details, see http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/ and http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/ .
In conclusion, troglodytes, thanks for helping me to prove my points!
Then they crucified Jesus, 'cause Jesus made them look bad! ALSO because Jesus made them look bad FOR THEIR STUPID, HIDE-BOUND TRIBALISM! "The parable of the Good Samaritan" was VERY pointed, because the Samaritans were of the WRONG tribe, in the eyes of "Good Jews" of the day.
Instead of KILLING Jesus, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., etc., we’d be better off VOTING for these kinds of people! But we will NOT, ’cause they Hurt Our Precious Baby Feelings, by giving tribalism and do-gooder derogation the disrespect that they (we self-righteous tribalists) SOOO thoroughly deserve!
Kamala, is that you?
No, it's your conscience. Do you even know who I am any more?
Bertie oughtta know about that subject...
Stolen IP = speech? Fuck off.
Was going to say this. Reason is now just Marxists simps.
Get a load of the white supremacists in that photo!
The black poster children of white supremacy.
Isn't this the same rag that kept saying Biden's censorship wasn't censorship because it was private companies doing so? Then it wasn't censorship because the government wasn't doing anything, it was just government people making suggestions in their capacity as private citizens? How many times did ENB report breathlessly on her skedaddle from Twitter once Musk bought it and exposed the censorship? Mastodon, Bluesky at least, but never Rumble or Truth Social, oh no.
Yah, I'm not going to put much credence in your sudden come-to-Jesus free speech moment.
Mastodon, Bluesky at least
And Threads.
How dare they report on the information that they had at the time and then change their minds when new facts came to light?
They were supposed to believe the conspiracy theories from the beginning. The only thing worse than someone who doesn't believe a conspiracy theory is someone who changes their mind when it turns out to be true.
This is not an accurate characterization of what happened.
Sarc doesn’t even know what he said five minutes ago.
You should see him praising democrats as the party of liberty and economics earlier.
Not even close.
You were given the facts for years. They were not new.
But this attitude does explain why you're against audits and investigations. From SSA audits to vote audits.
You demand to live in ignorance so your Psaki formed narratives are never harmed.
I don't remember that. I do remember Republicans pushing to end Sect 230 prior to Biden taking office because Twitter wasn't "true diversity" and them pushing the private company line. Granted there could be some overlap there.
For Example:
The new Congress needs to investigate and find out. Twitter is exempt from liability as a "publisher" because it is allegedly "a forum for a true diversity of political discourse." That does not appear to be accurate.
— Josh Hawley (@HawleyMO) November 27, 2018
That's considerably different from politicians and their staffers pointing to specific messages and laying heavy hints that there will be hearings and anti-trust prosecution if that message remains visible much longer.
Trust in Trump, who will FIX all this “Government Almighty pressures on social media” for us!
The Market Has Spoken! Go to Parler!
Parler layoffs, https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/01/parler-reportedly-axed-most-of-its-staff-after-ending-deal-to-sell-to-kanye-west/#:~:text=Parler's%20owner%20laid%20off%20most,according%20to%20The%20Verge's%20sources.
Parler owner laid off 75% of staff and has only 20 employees left, report says
Parler reportedly laid off staff and execs after ending deal to sell to Kanye West.
Failure of Trump Truth Social https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/09/10/truth-social-flop-says-about-trump-00055977
What the Truth Social Flop Says About Trump
He’s a bad businessman who has worn out his meme.
https://futurism.com/the-byte/twitter-suspending-more-people TWITTER UNDER "FREE SPEECH ABSOLUTIST" ELON MUSK IS ACTUALLY SUSPENDING WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN BEFORE. . .Twitter-in-the-Shitter under Elon Musk of the Elongated Tusk now follows in the shit-steps of “Parler”!!! Twat and UDDER slurprise!!! Parler censors liberals per Techdirt https://www.techdirt.com/2020/06/29/as-predicted-parler-is-banning-users-it-doesnt-like/
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/04/parler-shuts-down-as-new-owner-says-conservative-platform-needs-big-revamp/
Parler shuts down as new owner says conservative platform needs big revamp
Parler sold to firm that says conservative Twitter clone isn't a "viable business."
The free market has spoken, and says that shit doesn’t like cuntsorevaturd CensorShit either!!! IF you Are Deeply and PervFectly Butt-Hurt? If so… Start up Your Own PervFect web shit-site!
I don't remember that.
Did a bowling ball land on your head or something?
Robby started the "Private Universities" as part of "to be sure"ing the shutdown of conservative speakers on campus... like the same Private Universities (some of which were public, many of which grew their endowments while using Federal Student loans to hire DEI administrators like Claudine "I am not a
crookplagiarist." Gay) that perpetrated Title IX show trials were some bastion of liberal thought. The infection spread to Shackford and ENB parroting Masnick and "The 1A of the internet" and "Twenty-six words that created the internet."Again, I and several others have pointed out that the literal text of Section 230 is an overt (religious reference passed into law and) call for censorship and that if you go back in this magazine's history far enough, it was actively opposed (alongside NN) until the Late Obama/Early Trump Administration.
Did you develop amnesia for the 'Antifa doesn't elect a board or carry membership cards, so they're really more of an idea than a criminal organization the FBI could/should investigate.' too?
Reason is now a zero credibility publication. They exist solely to advance globalist Neo Marxist narratives at the behest of patrons like Koch.
I remember someone calling it nothing but a bedtime story.
>The pro-censorship post was quite the Freudian slip from the Trump administration.
I wonder what was going on in 2008.
If we are going to let millions of people stream into this country, we should make some sort of effort to select for the ones that believe in freedom and limited self-government, not communism or jihadism or what have you.
Domestically, of course, the government can't punish or discriminate against citizens for pro-communist speech or whatever. But that's not the case for foreigners with respect to discretionary immigration privileges.
That's "if." Of course, we can just altogether stop letting millions of people pour into the country. A pause might make sense.
A pause makes total sense. Thanks to the democrats.
"No idea is illegal. It is breathtakingly absurd and outrageous to even suggest that ideas need to be policed. And that the promise of the First Amendment—the freedom to think freely—is the bedrock of American values. This post subverts everything our constitution stands for," the coalition wrote.
Douglass Mackey says, "Hi." you mendacious fuckwads.
If no idea is illegal then the idea that there are ideas that are illegal is legal. And people said Skydaddy worshipers were the stupid ones.
Ideological tests at the border make perfect sense to preserving what your country believes.
For fucks sake, progressivism couldn't have gained a foothold in the US if we had been way more selective after Marx.
Yes, it took us until 1924 to do anything about the flood of immigrants with un-American ideas coming in. If the immigration acts of the 1920s hadn't been passed, the USA would have been another socialist shithole by the 1960s.
Why stop at the border?
"Preserving what your country believes" is surely important enough to enforce inside the country itself!
Thanks to Marxist filth like you, McCarthyism is coming back.
Yes, of course, and there are many ways to do that. One effective way that has recently been abandoned is through public education. Today, the schools have been taken over by an anti-American faction. Another recently debased program was the Boy Scouts.
And what if I thought not arresting people for attending Church services in their car was important to preserving what this country believes?
Makes it kinda seem like, in reality, shipping people out is the last means of preserving anything before the shooting starts and smug retards like yourself who don't have the first fucking clue about beliefs or preservation are, one way or the other, practically lining up against the wall to be shot.
US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit - 643 F.2d 38 (2d Cir. 1981) Argued June 16, 1980. Decided Feb. 9, 1981 that narcs can grab and frogmarch you into prison for quinine! The stuff that cures malaria! Malaria cases promptly increased worldwide. The reasoning was that you could take a non-addictive stimulant that the government calls a narcotic and cut it with harmless quinine--which amounts to conspiratorial thoughtcrime. Amazing they didn't ban the water bartenders used to cut whiskey when prohibition was in full swing.
A foreigner's right to free speech and their right to remain in our country are two separate issues. The deportees in the news lately are not being prosecuted for their speech. They are only having their status as welcome visitors revoked. They have no right to that status.
Moreover, Reason and The Media has a demonstrated habit of conflating looting, arson, and murder as a mostly peaceful exchange of ideas.
1A limits government. It doesn't "give rights".
Thanks non sequitur.
9A actually limits government.
On the count of three everyone say “Fascist!”
"Everyone who knows COBOL is dead"
What, then, of SNOBOL? Reason contributor Petr Beckmann wrote code in that.
again, if Trump must mirror ICE and vice versa , why go back and forth as it suits your biased and illogical reporting ? Yes, even I --more Libertarian than you --- do not want anti-Americans to come into the country.
Credible Thoughtcrime Review transcript.
ICE: 'How many fingers, Winston?'
Smith: 'Five! Five! Five!'
ICE: 'No, Winston, that is no use. You are lying. You still think there are four. How many fingers, please?'
Smith: 'Four! Five! Four! Anything you like. Only stop it, stop the pain!
Anti-semitic ideas, WHEREVER in the world expressed, are against US law.