Trump's New Tariffs on Steel, Aluminum Won't Help American Manufacturing
And it's not about "fairness." Quite the opposite, actually.

Near the top of an official "fact sheet" distributed by the White House on Tuesday morning, the Trump administration makes clear its rationale for imposing new tariffs on steel and aluminum imports.
The White House claims that "foreign nations have been flooding the United States market with cheap steel and aluminum" and promises that taxes on those imports will restore "fairness" to the markets for steel and aluminum.
That's about as straightforward as it could be: The Trump administration believes cheap imports are a problem and is seeking to artificially raise prices with tariffs.
Is that fair? Steelmakers and aluminum manufacturers might think so, but the potential costs will spread through dozens of downstream industries and could impact the price of goods ranging from beer cans and cars to kitchen gadgets and construction vehicles. Nucor, one of America's largest steelmaking companies, said it would raise prices just hours after the tariffs were announced.
"This is political rent-seeking at its most brazen, and it benefits the few at the expense of the many," is how The Wall Street Journal's editorial board summarized President Donald Trump's latest trade maneuver.
Indeed, tariffs on goods like steel and aluminum expose the nasty tradeoffs that protectionism creates.
The Trump administration tries to frame these tariffs as a way to defend American manufacturing against the perceived threat of cheap foreign goods, but that's not quite accurate. These tariffs will protect American steelmakers and aluminum manufacturers from competition but at the expense of other American manufacturers that buy steel and aluminum to produce finished goods.
Unfortunately, there are a lot more jobs in the latter camp than in the former. According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there are roughly 177 jobs in downstream aluminum-consuming industries for every American job in aluminum manufacturing. Even if tariffs help to goose domestic production in some small way, the losers will overwhelmingly outnumber the winners.
That's exactly what happened the last time the Trump administration imposed these tariffs. The Peterson Institute for International Economics calculated that the costs of Trump's 2018 steel tariffs totaled about $650,000 per job created. If this is an economic development scheme for American manufacturing, it's a pretty terrible one.
Farther downstream, consumers will be hurt too. When Trump hiked tariffs on steel and aluminum imports during his first term, those import duties translated into price increases of 2.4 percent for steel and 1.6 percent for aluminum, according to a 2023 study by the U.S. International Trade Commission.
That might not sound like a lot, but there are several reasons to expect a more significant hit this time around.
For one, Trump is now raising tariffs on both metals to 25 percent. His first-term tariffs were 25 percent on steel but only 10 percent on aluminum.
The impact of the steel and aluminum tariffs imposed during Trump's first term was also blunted by the wide variety of carve-outs and loopholes that the administration created. Companies affected by the tariffs could apply for exemptions—and the process for deciding who got those breaks was, unsurprisingly, opaque and political.
This time around, the White House says there will be no exceptions granted. "No exceptions, no nothing," Trump said from the Oval Office on Monday night as he signed the executive orders implementing the tariffs.
That's more fair, but it also means that downstream industries that use steel and aluminum will face the full brunt of the tariffs—as will American consumers.
Tariffs are still not the magic wand that Trump believes they are, and other countries are already retaliating by raising their own tariffs. As Trump launches into another trade war, the best outcome would be for this to get resolved as quickly as the last one.
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You have no idea what the tariffs will do Boehm. We shall see.
Tariffs have a well-defined trajectory, as shown by history.
* Some industries will be able to raise their prices so American consumers pay more.
* Other industries will have to raise prices because their inputs got more expensive, so once again American consumers will pay more.
* The "protected" industries are by definition less efficient than they could be, and American consumers have already rejected them in favor of better cheaper products, where "better" is an individual consumer choice, or at least would be if government bureaucrats didn't make that choice for them. Thus these inefficient industries will waste resources and raise the price of those resources for other industries, again raising prices for American consumers and reducing opportunities for other more efficient and innovative industries to bring better and cheaper products to markets.
* Jesse will throw out insults, and claim he knows that Trump knows better than 340 million American consumers what is good for them. He sometimes claims he has already refuted all these arguments, yet seems strangely unable to provide any links to past comments showing his refutations.
* And Jesse will once again fail to admit that Trump is an economic ignoramus who think trade deficits can go down while foreign investments go up, when they are the same thing.
* And Jesse's henchmen will add in their own insults. None of them will ever admit Trump is an economic ignoramus, but all will show their membership in the sarcjeff club of refusing to back up any of their assertions with facts or references.
Pro tip: "Pour sarc" is a pour substitute for anything rational. It might be appropriate for sarc when he defends Democrats, even funny the first few times, but if that's all you got, it ain't much. Feel free to continue showcasing how little any of you know about basic Econ 101 definitions.
Sep 16, 2024 — The Biden administration's dramatic hikes for this year include a 100% tariff on electric vehicles, a 25% tariff on lithium-ion EV batteries…..
Did you declare Biden to be an economic ignoramus as well?
Biden is a universal ignoramus.
lol.
Aye. The difference though is that when Reason criticized Biden’s tariffs (and I criticized them in the comments) the Trump defenders were deafeningly silent. They pretended the articles (and comments) didn’t exist. They still do. Not only that but they did not praise Biden for his tariffs. They just said… nothing.
Now though, because those articles (and comments) never existed, their latest ad hominem defense of Trump’s tariffs is “You and Reason never said anything when Biden did it! Nya nya nya you poopy head! I win!”
The difference though is that when Reason criticized Biden’s tariffs (and I criticized them in the comments) the Trump defenders were deafeningly silent.
Both Reason and you only criticized Biden’s tariffs incidentally and after the fact as a response to criticism that Biden's tariffs were being ignored, you hypocrite creep.
Two months after Biden quit? What would have been the point? The one bright spot I thought would happen with Biden winning 2020 was getting rid of Trump's tariffs. He didn't. He doubled down. If you know how to read four year old comments, I'm sure I bitched about it.
You were here four years ago as SGT? I don't remember that. Not saying you weren't, but did you have a different nick?
I believe he was formerly "AaBbCcDdEe." (I known I have that name wrong, but you know who I mean.)
I don’t see any facts or references. Just someone showing their knowledge without feeling the need to post a bunch of links to back it up. And even if links were posted, the aforementioned dickfaces would simply attack the source making it a waste of time.
So other than trying to be popular by attacking me (I say these comments are like middle school because the surest way to popularity is to kick whoever is being ganged up on) and hypocritically doing what you say justifies attacking me, that was a good post.
"So other than trying to be popular by attacking me"
Wait... Is that wrong? Since when?
Also, since everyone is always telling you to "fuck off", does that mean everyone is popular?
He has the sarc victim hood cranked up to 11.
He never answers or responds to any arguments against him. He cries they are attacks lol.
Point me to your rebuttals.
Here's an old favorite of mine. Good times:
sarcasmic
February.7.2021 at 2:27 pm
So there’s a difference between law (what society deems to be wrong) and legislation (rules backed with government force)?
No way!
Mother's Lament
February.7.2021 at 2:50 pm
Yeah, that’s not the definition of “law”, sarc, that’s the definition of immorality.
The definition of law is roughly what you gave for legislation (which you also got wrong). To quote:
“Law is a system of rules created and enforced through social or governmental institutions to regulate behavior,[2][3][4][5]… It has been variously described as a science[6][7] and the art of justice.”
https://reason.com/2021/02/07/the-mushroom-moment-manifesto/#comment-8747992
By the way, you should know by now that being good at politics requires deliberate ignorance of economics, like stick your fingers in your ears and shouting “LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU” deliberate ignorance, and that Trump and his defenders are good at politics.
Hey sarc! Thanks for bringing me up again!
Can you show us the historical correlation between tariffs and your claims? With actual data?
If tariffs are so bad, you must believe other countries tariffs and all those negotiated tariffs are the worst thing ever too right? So how do we end them?
It must be wonderful to live in such a simplified economics first order linear model.
Kaithxbai!
Google can help you find information on the internet. It's a useful tool, you should try it:
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs-trade-war/
https://www.investopedia.com/news/what-are-tariffs-and-how-do-they-affect-you/
If you don't like that, you can ask AI. I used Perplexity.
Direct Impact on Consumer Prices
Increased Costs for Imported Goods: Tariffs directly raise the price of imported goods, as importers typically pass these additional costs onto consumers. For example:
A 25% tariff on steel and aluminum could increase the price of cars by $1,000 to $1,500 per vehicle due to higher material costs1.
Tariffs on Chinese goods, such as toys and electronics, could lead to price increases of up to 56% for some products3.
Higher Prices for Everyday Items: Tariffs on goods from countries like Canada and Mexico can raise the cost of food (e.g., vegetables and prepared foods) and other essentials. For instance:
A 25% tariff on Canadian oil could increase gasoline and diesel prices in the U.S., particularly in regions reliant on Canadian imports23.
Indirect Effects
Inflationary Pressure: Tariffs contribute to overall inflation by increasing production costs for goods that rely on imported components. Estimates suggest that new tariffs could add 0.4 to 0.8 percentage points to core inflation, depending on their scope15.
Impact on Domestic Prices: Even U.S.-made products can become more expensive as domestic manufacturers raise their prices to match higher costs for imported alternatives15.
Holy fuck man. You literally posted a paper that relief on the words "could" to help defend the claims lol.
God damn you fucks are retarded.
I'm asking for historical data, not projections or claims retard.
Even AI can figure it out.
I don't think there is much hope for you. If you don't understand that tariffs raise prices -- their stated goal -- then there's probably not a lot of common ground for us to debate.
Because AI has made life so easy, I went ahead and did more "research" for you against my better judgement. All claims have references, which I unfortunately can't copy for you. But it did take about 1 minute to search this on Perplexity. Here you go:
There is substantial historical evidence from Donald Trump's first administration (2017–2021) that tariffs led to price increases for American consumers. Here are key examples:
Price Increases Due to Tariffs
Washing Machines:
A 50% tariff on washing machines in 2018 caused prices to rise by approximately 12%, or $86 per unit. This resulted in an additional $1.5 billion in annual costs for U.S. consumers13.
Steel and Aluminum:
Tariffs on steel and aluminum raised their average prices in the U.S. by 2.4% and 1.6%, respectively7.
The steel tariffs also contributed to higher costs for manufacturers reliant on steel, which were often passed on to consumers3.
Chinese Goods:
Tariffs on Chinese imports, including consumer electronics and manufacturing components, increased prices by 10% to 30%, roughly equivalent to the tariff rates themselves3.
A Goldman Sachs analysis in 2019 found that the Consumer Price Index (CPI) for tariffed goods rose significantly compared to a declining CPI for non-tariffed goods3.
General Consumer Impact:
Studies estimated that Trump's tariffs reduced aggregate U.S. real income by $1.4 billion per month and added $3.2 billion per month in consumer costs by late 20183.
The Tax Foundation found that the tariffs effectively offset the benefits of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act for most households, with middle-income families facing annual losses of $1,700 to $3,90013.
Broader Economic Effects
Inflationary Pressures: Although tariffs were not the sole driver of inflation, they contributed to higher prices for specific goods, which rippled through supply chains57.
Manufacturing Sector: Tariffs led to decreased employment in manufacturing, with a study estimating a 0.6% reduction in jobs (about 75,000 fewer positions) due to higher input costs3.
These findings illustrate how tariffs during Trump's first administration directly increased prices for various goods and imposed significant economic costs on American households and businesses.
CNBC summary of the Goldman Sachs report is probably the biggest bang for your buck if you only have time for 1 source. Not that I expect you to read it.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/13/this-chart-from-goldman-sachs-shows-tariffs-are-raising-prices-for-consumers-and-it-could-get-worse.html
Amazing how all of those large tariff amounts only raised prices by a small amount. Of course this is less than the estimated regulatory costs from bidens regulatory changes.
You refuted your own first post BTW. Fucking hilarious.
Your study is also falsely using the word directly, as you are citing an advocacy group if you follow who the AI is quoting. A group who held the assumptions that regulatory policy and supply disruption didn't account for the raised costs.
So you refuted your own initial post. Then used an advocacy group who used an assumption tariffs were the primary cost driver while ignoring other cost inputs.
Good work buddy.
Tariffs can raise costs. It isn't 1:1. They are also a fraction of the regulatory growth in the country. But you idiots fail to actually understand the issue.
The data that shows a clear increase in CPI of tariffed goods between 2018-2020 and a clear decline in non-tariffed goods is about as telling as it can get. That data was sourced from dept of commerce and labor.
Why are you bringing up regulatory growth? Do you really think I'm going to argue FOR regulations?
Tariffs can raise costs. It isn't 1:1
Good, you admit it. And who said it was 1:1? Or were you just trying to shift the goalposts?
Great summary. You forgot the inevitable "Biden did it" response. Don't look at me was generous to remind you.
sarcjeff club of refusing to back up any of their assertions with facts or references.
Oh screw you. I provide tons of facts and references, far more than most around here, and unlike Jesse, they tend to be *reliable* references, not right-wing trash from places like ZeroHedge or Twitter.
No. You post a bunch of assertions and then when your challenged for proof you post a ActBlue smear as the citation... Although you will change it up sometimes, and post an ActBlue smear and then when your challenged for proof you'll make a bunch of assertions.
History tells us, in spades, twat tariffs swill do!!! They dish out SWILL to us all, except for the Special Few!!!
https://reason.com/2020/01/22/trump-campaigned-on-saving-factory-jobs-but-u-s-manufacturing-just-went-through-a-year-long-recession/
Clear-cut case below, showing the UTTER FAILURE of protectionism in general, and Trumpist protectionism specifically:
Meanwhile in the real world…
https://reason.com/2019/04/22/trumps-washing-machine-tariffs-cleaned-out-consumers/
Trump’s Washing Machine Tariffs Cleaned Out Consumers
A new report finds the tariffs raised $82 million for the U.S. Treasury but ended up increasing costs for consumers by about $1.2 billion.
PROTECTIONISM DOESN’T WORK!!! DUH!!!
Protect American washing-machine makers from Chinese competition? The FIRST thing that American washing-machine makers do, is jack UP their prices… AND the prices of dryers to boot, too! To SOAK the hell out of all of us consumers!!!
From the above-linked Reason article about washing machines…
“All told, those tariffs raised about $82 million for the U.S. Treasury but ended up increasing costs for consumers by about $1.2 billion during 2018 … (deleted). Although the trade policy did cause some manufacturers to shift production from overseas to the United States in an effort to avoid the new tariffs, the 1,800 jobs created by Trump’s washing machine tariffs cost consumers an estimated $820,000 per job.”
Summary: Nickels and dimes to the USA treasury; boatloads of pain for consumers. USA jobs created? Yes, at GREAT expense! Putting these 1.8 K workers on a super-generous welfare program would have been WAY better for all the rest of us! Plus, you know the WORKERS don’t make super-huge bucks (no $820,000 per job for THEM); the goodies flow to the EXECUTIVES at the top of the washing-machine companies! The same ones who play golf with The Donald, and join him for gang-banging Spermy Daniels! Essentially at our expense!
Washing machines are still stupid expensive thanks to those tariffs that Biden didn’t take down.
Hint, it’s not the tariffs. It’s the other, efficiency requirements Biden did that make washing machines more expensive.
Both stg and sarc will continue to ignore the regulatory scheme is far worse than the proposed tariffs while also ignoring foreign actors tariffs or other anti market actions as bad.
It is amazing.
No one ignores regulations.
You just say that as a distraction.
Yes regulations have a cost.
Doesn’t mean tariffs don’t.
And...tariffs are regulations. They require paperwork, inspectors, accountants, lawyers and tax agents. A tariff broker charge is about $200 ‐ $400 per filing. They slow down freight and delays cost businesses money.
Boehm, has anyone ever told you that you are a fucking retard? The reason behind tariffs for goods such as these, steel and aluminum, is to make it more attractive to bring those industries back here. They are strategically important (ironic for you considering that you like to vote strategically) to national security. We shouldn’t rely on China for steel needed for tanks or aluminum needed for drones and planes. You and your fucking ilk have, for decades, promoted offshoring these out of places like the rust belt so you can pad your dividends and watch your investment in the stock market go up. Fuck you for what you’ve done to the rust belt.
It's hard to decide which of Eric's characteristics I like the least: His stupidity, his bias, or his lack of identifiable talent. He is the reason the word "retard" has regained momentum.
Really, would you spend millions of dollars opening an aluminum processing facility based on these tariffs, knowing the next administration may just remove them?
That’s where codifying these by Congress comes into play.
Japan just agreed to a huge investment in the steel companies.
This would be the US Steel acquisition by Nippon Steel, the one that your team is trying to block? Man you really are dishonest.
"[Nippon's] going to be doing something very exciting about U.S. Steel. They'll be looking at an investment rather than a purchase. U.S. Steel is a very important company to us. It was the greatest company in the world for 15 years, many years ago, 80 years ago. And we didn't want to see that leave. And it wouldn't actually leave. But the concept, psychologically, not good. So they've agreed to invest heavily in U.S. Steel as opposed to own it, and that sounds very exciting."
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economic ignoramusTrumpIf the government is demanding domestic steel and aluminum for military purposes, why does that mean *everyone* must have domestic steel and aluminum? I really don't care if my can of soda was manufactured in the USA or in Canada.
If this were really about military supply chains, then there is a much easier solution that doesn't require imposing tariffs on all steel and all aluminum: the DoD can just require their contractors to produce their equipment with only domestically sourced materials. They already do that with all sorts of equipment already.
Difficult to do when they went out of business.
Name the sources the DoD could use, Jeffy.
https://www.alcoa.com/global/en/who-we-are/locations
Three facilities that make aluminum in the US.
https://www.ussteel.com/about-us/locations
Lots and lots of steel mills owned by US Steel, even in the US.
And by the way, the government already has a system in place for domestic manufacturing of sensitive military equipment such as nuclear bomb parts. Look up Honeywell and National Nuclear Security Administration. If you are THAT concerned about domestic supply chains for military equipment, the government could just replicate and expand this SAME model but to cover all military contracting. Not necessary to demand that EVERYONE use domestic steel and aluminum even for just ordinary soda cans.
Your links don’t exist. That means you never post links. And you’re a poopy head. I win.
When have you ever posted a link as a citation, Sarckles? I can't think of a single time you've ever done that.
Thanks!
Sad to say, Trumpaloos are impervious to facts and logic... "Feelz" and "self RIGHTeousness" runs their days and, for the rest of us, ruins our days...
When your economic theory was the primary driver of the supply chain disruption and assumed costs during covid... and you still push your economic theory... you may be a Boehm (or sarc or STG)
Every Boehm article is like deja vu all over again.
It sure ain’t deja vu of learning basic economics, because anyone who defends tariffs doesn’t know dick about the subject.
Sarc, has anyone ever told you you’re a drunk fucking retard? If not, then here’s your chance.
That might not sound like a lot
Because less than a 3% increase in cost is on par with "normal" inflation.
IOW, they had next to no effect on prices.
You mean they double inflation. Add math to the list of things one must be deliberately ignorant of to defend Trump.
Considering their lack of condemnation for Biden’s tariffs, do you think it’s possible they agree with the policy and not the person?
There was tons of condemnation of Biden’s tariffs. You ignoring it doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. Just makes you a true Trump defender.
Also it should be pointed out that Biden’s tariffs, like Trump’s first term tariffs, were targeted. That’s not the same as blanket tariffs.
Finally, lying and attacking people for their supposed lack of criticism of Biden’s tariffs does not refute the fact that three plus three is six.
Cite the articles with links, Sarc.
No you, sealion.
That's not how sealioning works, dork.
Reading your reply, I thought maybe I was wrong (it’s been known to happen) so I went back through the archive. About 400 articles that mentioned tariffs from 02/21 to 11/24. On the handful I clicked on, comments were relatively low, with the usual tariff defenders notably absent in many. I did click on one where Jesse was going after Biden, but because of his follow through/threat posed, not attacking the tariffs themselves.
I’ll admit I don’t go into every thread and there may be weeks between my visits here at times, so maybe they condemned them in unrelated articles. But even upthread you acknowledged that they didn’t really comment on those Biden articles (making it hard to praise OR condemn them).
(Link to the one thread: https://reason.com/2024/10/15/bidens-top-trade-official-just-admitted-tariffs-havent-changed-chinas-behavior/?comments=true#comment-10761070)
The Trump defenders believe those articles don’t exist because they ignored them. So they are telling the “truth” when they say Reason never criticized Biden’s tariffs, because that’s what they really believe.
I'm consistent =)
I dislike protectionism but have no issue with retaliatory or behavioral tariffs as I've been consistent on for over a decade.
You can see I'm not defending the US Steel tariffs.
Most I've done is noted supply chain risk costs and Japan investing in US companies.
It is more like:
2021-2025:
Biden imposes tariffs.
Reason criticizes the tariffs.
The usual tariff-supporting morons say nothing. And in other articles, they scream WHY DO REASON SUPPORT BIDEN?
2025-onwards:
Trump imposes tariffs.
Reason criticizes the tariffs.
The usual tariff-supporting morons scream WHY DO REASON HATE TRUMP????
It is not about policy, it is only about team.
Say Boehm, Trump sure does talk a mean tariff game, but since he always fails to deliver on them in the end, which makes me wonder if there has there been anything else going on lately?
How about that DOGE everyone has been talking about?
Have they discovered any government malfeasance worth mentioning in a libertarian magazine?
Reason has been mum on it, so I guess no, huh?
Reason is not a libertarian magazine. It's Salon with guns. Try Spiked or something similar.
Wonder how much those 80% Domestic Taxes are helping (or won't be helping) American Manufacturing.
I don't know except that it's less than domestic taxes + tariffs.
Indeed. The very difference between a Biden Tariff and a Trump Tariff.
Trump Cut Domestic Taxes. Biden didn't.
Tariffs are domestic taxes. They are just another tax on domestic businesses.
I still haven’t figured out why Trump defenders understand that when Democrats raise taxes on businesses the result is higher prices, but when Trump does it it doesn’t.
"80% Domestic Taxes are helping (or won't be helping) American Manufacturing"
The subject is "Domestic Taxes" on "American Manufacturing"
Do you really think your ignorance and stupidity makes a point?
You’re the one who refuses to learn anything about Economics because it contradicts Trump.
So you are in no position to call me ignorant or stupid.
I am completely in position.
Import business =/= American manufacturing
Next up - 100% tariffs on Canadian vehicles. Goodbye GM and Ford. Tesla will be scooping them up for pennies on the dollar.
Just ~80% where Domestic Manufacturing Sits would be fine.
Don't like it ... STOP spending.
Just don't pretend that there is anything fair about FOREIGN manufacturing getting tax-exempt protections while insisting domestic manufacturing pays for everything.
Tariffs are taxes. Increasing tariffs is a tax increase on Americans. The end goal is to transfer wealth from the consumers to the mega-corporations. Basically MAGA 101.
It's worse than that, it's a direct transfer to government. I can't believe we have to defend why raising taxes is bad -- on a libertarian website.
Tell us how much you love those Tax-Cuts.
In the face of $36T debt ... Did you really think both imports and domestic could be ZERO-Tax?
I find it so hilarious leftards want a BIG fat Government stealing everyone's money and somehow think all that stolen money isn't going to just end right back up in the "the mega-corporations" hands.
What are you going to spend all that STOLEN money on? Something "the mega-corporations" created? So really; all you're doing is "armed-theft" (Gov-Gun) STEALING what people *EARN* and giving it to "the mega-corporations.
THINK for a change leftards.
The only humanitarian purpose 'Guns' (Gov-Guns) can provide is to ensure Individual Liberty and Justice for all.
That's about as straightforward as it could be: The Trump administration believes cheap imports are a problem and is seeking to artificially raise prices with tariffs.
Don't ever complain to me about slavery or child labor or minimum wages or maximum work weeks or collective bargaining or environmentalism or DEI/CRT/ESG or anything even remotely associated with ANY of them ever again, Eric.
You have officially surrendered ANY credibility you have on any of those subjects. If you even utter a word on the subject, you're an automatic hypocrite.
A whole pile of faith-based economic bullshit in evidence here.
"Trump did it" so it will work wonders for the US economy, despite Trump's macroeconomic illiteracy, matched by that of his supporters here, and vast amount of economic evidence and theory to the contrary. The tariffs are stupid, as are the people who support them.
Taking the STUPID out of your comment....
...Socialist SPENDING is stupid, as are the people who support it.
Fuckwit, we're talking about tariffs here. BTW spending kept growing under Trump first time around - but you don't care.