Trump's Plan To Fight Illegal Drugs With Punitive Tariffs Makes No Sense
If stopping drugs from entering the country is as straightforward as the president-elect implies, why didn't he do it during his first term?

President-elect Donald Trump says the special tariffs he has threatened to impose on goods imported from China, Canada, and Mexico are aimed at stopping illegal drugs from entering the United States. The federal government has been trying and failing to do that for more than a century, and there is no reason to think this puzzling tactic will be any more successful.
Trump complains that Canada and Mexico are not doing enough to prevent drugs from crossing the northern and southern borders. "Drugs are pouring in at levels never seen before, 10 times what we had," he told Kristen Welker on Meet the Press last Sunday, explaining the rationale for the punitive tariffs. "They're just pouring in. We can't have open borders."
Last month, Trump said he would encourage Canada and Mexico to crack down on those borders by imposing a 25 percent tariff on "ALL products coming into the United States." He said the tariffs, which he plans to impose on his first day in office, "will remain in effect until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!"
If stopping the flow of illegal drugs is as straightforward as Trump implies, one might wonder, why didn't he do that during his first term? "I'm going to create borders," he promised during his 2016 campaign. "No drugs are coming in. We're gonna build a wall. You know what I'm talking about. You have confidence in me. Believe me, I will solve the problem."
Trump did not, in fact, solve the problem. According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the annual number of drug-related deaths in the United States rose by 44 percent between 2016 and Trump's last year in office.
As drug warriors have been discovering since Congress banned nonmedical use of opiates and cocaine in 1914, prohibition creates a strong financial incentive to evade any obstacles that the government manages to erect between suppliers and consumers. That problem is compounded in the case of fentanyl, which is cheap to produce and highly potent, making it possible to smuggle large numbers of doses in small packages.
"At present," the Congressional Research Service (CRS) noted last March, "most U.S.-destined illicit fentanyl appears to be produced clandestinely in Mexico, using chemical precursors from China." Although "some fentanyl precursors are subject to international controls," the report explains, "others may be produced and exported legally from certain countries, including China. Mexican customs officials reportedly have struggled to detect the illicit diversion of these chemicals."
Mexican drug cartels "move illicit fentanyl into the United States, primarily across the southwestern border, often in passenger vehicles," the CRS reports. "The U.S.
Department of Homeland Security asserts that 90% of [seized] fentanyl is interdicted at ports of entry, often in vehicles driven by U.S. citizens. A primary challenge for both
Mexican and U.S. officials charged with stopping the fentanyl flow is that [the cartels] can meet U.S. demand with a relatively small amount."
Finding those small amounts among the hundreds of thousands of cars and trucks that cross into the United States from Canada and Mexico each day is a daunting task. Even attempting it in a serious way would impose intolerable burdens on international travel and trade. And although vehicular transportation across the southern border currently seems to be the main route for fentanyl, that is not the only option. Fentanyl also enters the United States by mail, and it is impossible to intercept all of those shipments, especially given their small size and the enormous volume of packages.
Even if the U.S. "managed to stop 100 percent of direct [fentanyl] sales to the US, enterprising dealers [would] simply sell into nations such as the UK, repackage the product, and then resell it into the US," economist Roger Bate noted in a 2018 American Enterprise Institute report. "Intercepting all packages from the UK and other EU nations to the US will not be possible." And "whether or not drugs are available to the general public via the mail," Bate added, "drug dealers have domestic production and overland and sea routes and other courier services that deliver the product to the US."
In March 2021, two months after Trump left office, the Drug Enforcement Administration reported that "availability and use of cheap and highly potent fentanyl has increased." It also noted that methamphetamine's "purity and potency remain high while prices remain low" and that "availability of cocaine throughout the United States remains steady."
That was after Trump had four years to deliver on his promise that "no drugs" would be "coming in" during his administration. Yet he now claims that Mexican and Canadian officials could accomplish what he manifestly failed to do if only they tried harder.
Trump also faults China for its lack of diligence. "I have had many talks with China about the massive amounts of drugs, in particular Fentanyl, being sent into the United States," he said on the same day that he announced the 25 percent tariff on goods imported from Canada and Mexico. "But to no avail. Representatives of China told me that they would institute their maximum penalty, that of death, for any drug dealers caught doing this but, unfortunately, they never followed through, and drugs are pouring into our Country, mostly through Mexico, at levels never seen before. Until such time as they stop, we will be charging China an additional 10% Tariff, above any additional Tariffs, on all of their many products coming into the United States of America."
Trump is enthusiastic about killing drug dealers, a position he has had trouble reconciling with his intermittent complaints about excessively harsh U.S. drug penalties. As Trump himself has admiringly noted, the Chinese government has already deemed fentanyl-related crimes worthy of death. "In China, unlike in our country, the highest level of crime is very, very high," Trump said in 2019. "You pay the ultimate price. So I appreciate that very much."
Contrary to what Trump implied, U.S. law does authorize the execution of drug traffickers in certain circumstances. Drug offenders eligible for the death penalty include leaders of criminal enterprises that sell 60,000 kilograms of marijuana, 60 kilograms of heroin, 17 kilograms of crack cocaine, or 600 grams of LSD.
That provision has been on the books since 1994, but it has never been carried out. It probably never will, since it seems to be unconstitutional under a 2008 decision in which the Supreme Court said the Eighth Amendment requires that the death penalty be reserved for "crimes that take the life of the victim." While deadly violence committed "in aid of racketeering activity" or "during and in relation to any…drug trafficking crime" would qualify for that description, nonviolent drug distribution seemingly would not.
China, by contrast, does periodically execute people for nonviolent drug offenses (and a long list of other crimes). If it did so more often, Trump seems to think, the flow of fentanyl into America would "stop." That assumption is hard to credit given the economics of prohibition, which creates a "risk premium" that is demonstrably large enough to compensate for the chance that any given trafficker will be apprehended and punished.
Even if severe legal penalties were enough to deter all Chinese suppliers of fentanyl precursors, that would not be the end of the story. As The New York Times recently noted, Mexican cartels already have a backup plan: They are recruiting "chemistry students studying at Mexican universities" so they can "synthesize the chemical compounds, known as precursors, that are essential to making fentanyl, freeing them from having to import those raw materials from China."
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Pushing the Mexican goverment for working with the cartels and the Chinese doesn't make sence.
Sullum you are an idiot. All parties pushing fentanal into us deserve to be punished.
Sullum is either a psychopath or he's doing Brown Envelope jobs for Charles Koch.
Can’t it be both?
Do the brown envelopes contain psychedelics or a more white powder substance?
Trump is enthusiastic about killing drug dealers, a position he has had trouble reconciling with his intermittent complaints about excessively harsh U.S. drug penalties.
Remember when he praised the president of the Philippines for sanctioning the
extrajudicial killingmurder of suspected drug dealers and his defenders swooned?I wonder if he'll try to do that here with illegals.
I wonder if he’s just going to start killing everybody!
This game is easy.
Fuck them all to death.
That's twat Trump already tried to do with Spermy Daniels, and just LOOK at twat shit got for Trump!!!
Time for some new material, buddy.
Ass soon ass Trump gets Himself a NEW hooker (that we know about), I'll get right on that shit!
Yer Momma is easy!!!
Remember when Sarcasmic sanctioned the murder of an unarmed protester by a cop?
The same Sarcasmic who hates cops?
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Refute it, bitch!
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I back the blue when they’re right. In this case, as you very well know, the cop didn’t know she was unarmed and from his vantage point he couldn’t see the crowd. He just saw someone crawling through a smashed barricade while hearing chaos on the police radio. So based upon what he knew based upon what he could see and hear, he did what he thought was right.
What a scumbag and hypocrite he is.
Hypocrisy and supporting dem controlled state aparatuses is his super power.
He's a troll. Sarc didn't give a care about what he was saying, he just wants everyone's attention so he says stupid shit.
What facts did I get wrong?
The cop didn't know she was unarmed and he did what he thought was right?
Sure those are facts.
Now apply those same facts to say the Tamir Rice murder. Would you justify that too? Hey the cop didn't know the kid didn't have a gun and he just did what he thought was right.
You can't be this far gone are you? You can use your facts to justify any murder or beatdown or SWAT by any cop ever.
You've lost your principles over your hatred of random people on the internet.
Cite he ever had principles?
The most amusing part is this officer had multiple citations for bad behavior. But sarc has to defend a blind, yes blind, shoot into a crowd without IDing a weapon. That's how far gone sarc is.
And as you infer he has attacked every BLM anti cop narrative from Rice to Floyd.
Meanwhile he was against Rittenhouse being found not guilty and won't say a word against the charging of Penny.
So you’ve got nothing but lies and attacks. Must be a day that ends in ‘y’.
Lol where is the lie?
Saw this when the browser logged me out.
That is verbatim what Jesse says after a comment full of lies.
Regardless you were already muted under a different name. If I cared I could go back into the archives, muting and unmuting you, to see what other names you use. That’s how ML discovered I was being socked, and then he lied about it for a long time. But I’ve got a life. Bye.
You just proved my points.
You're a sad man.
Run away you lying little fuck.
You were never spoofed. You were shitfaced and being a retard, and then when you sobered up slightly you got embarrassed and tried to blame it on somebody impersonating you.
How pathetic can one loser possibly be.
Dear Reason, when are you gonna make commenting privileges commensurate with buying a subscription? The day you do that is the day you will get a penny+ from me so that there might, once again. be smart people here instead of Jesse and his sockos, shitting up the place.
Lol. Alberto the sock. Guessing shrike.
What a fucking dumbass.
There's only 3 people who rush to defend the idiotic statements of sarc. Which one are you alberto?
Bananas, I don’t know whose sock you are but you’re already on mute, and staying that way. Fuck off.
POST THE LIST!
Since you're on the list... =*(
POST THE LIST SARC!!!
I made the list after responding to him 3 times I think. What a coward he is! Comes here and attacks people everyday and runs away when challenged.
Yup, nailed it
Welcome to the club!
We look forward to receiving your check for the membership fees.
Welcome to the club, and tell me about it. LOL!
"What a coward he is! Comes here and attacks people everyday and runs away when challenged."
Sarckles loves throwing punches but the second someone punches back he's all aggrieved and plays the victim.
Fuck you. I'm nobody's sock. I tried to honestly engage you once and you called me an idiot. You have zero interest in an honest discussion. I pity you. You are so far gone it's pathetically sad. Go suck on some more cop cock pal.
Don't pity him, he ain't worth it.
He's definitely not worth pity. He and Jeffy are the most hypocritical commenters here.
POST THE LIST!
Where do we start, drunken one?
why didn't [Trump] do it during his first term?
This is the stupidest argument one could make, so I'm not surprised to see Sullum making it.
It's his third anti trump rage article in 24 hours. Dude is on a bender that would even make sarc ask what the fuck his problem is.
And Your PervFected logical and data-driven refutation of the article is... ????
Grade-school insults do NOT count with logical and data-driven people! Did You PervFectly KNOW that?)
See, I think Sullum saw what I commented in his last post, about how tariffs can be used for reasons that are not economic. And I referenced the drug issue and the border. This was his.....meandering response.
TDS turns his writing into blather. Sullum is capable of better.
Sullum defines better as writing for Wapo or DailyBeast.
He's auditioning for The Atlantic right now.
Auditioning....or transitioning?
Out of curiosity I went back and counted the number of articles by Sullum where Trump is mentioned in the headlines since July 1 of this year. The count now stands at 40 and does not include articles that Sullum wrote that included Trump but was not mentioned in the headlines. That is obsessive. I would not be surprised if the total hits 50 by the end of the year.
Careful. Sullum will take it as a challenge.
Will nobody at Reason intervene here?
Yes, it’s time for Sullum to be involuntary committed to a mental institution.
Sure… All of those who disagree with MEEEE are… Mentally ILL!!! YES, this! Good authoritarians KNOW this already!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
All of the GOOD totalitarians KNOW that those who oppose totalitarianism are mentally ill, for sure!!!
Wait, you call yourself Sqrlsy, but you're not mentally ill?
The Church of SQRLS is the Church of Scienfoologists Questing for Religious Liberty, Sincerely.
Does PervFected You Know ANYTHING?!!??!
I even offered to match donations.
The American opium industry needs a boost.
Or a bump.
You could put the military doing full body cavity searches on every street corner in America and still the drugs would get through. Maybe try keeping drugs out of the nation's prisons as practice. Haha, won't work, the War on Drugs is a farce.
Nominalis, Thank You!!!
"Maybe try keeping drugs out of the nation's prisons as practice."
Good point, I have made it myself, from time to time!!! And... I do NOT want the USA to become a giant outdoor prison (more than shit is already) for this FUTILE effort!
The US hasn't won a war since September 1945.
Either Trump doesn’t understand this, which is likely, or he does and knows the conditions are impossible to meet. Either way the result will be higher prices for years if he gets his way.
Lol this place is better than The Bee.
The "funniest" (funny if shit were SNOT so UDDERLY sad) shit is that the cummenters here sincerely BLEEVE all of their Trump-Worshitting Sacred Thoughts!
Yes, and it's remarkable that some of the funniest commentors here weren't even trying to be funny!
Sqrlsy's trying.
But yeah, HO2, GMO turducken, trunkbears, apologetic rapists, the list and a half-million dollar Airbnb were definitely unintentional.
Doc is one of them too. He just screams xenophobia in immigration articles and doesn't want to tire his little fingers out writing an intelligent argument lol. Look at the other thread.
Wait until you see the king of protracted pedantry, chemjeff retarded statist.
Twat are Ye PervFectly saying? People that can rattle off lots of facts and data-driven logic, at length, to justify their positions are retarded? And the spouters of grade-school insults here are the TRULY Trumpishly smart ones?
Sure, twatever Ye PervFectly say...
So ... let me see if I have this straight: the war on drugs is a massive failure and has actually been perversely encouraging the violence and profitability of dangerous narcotics in the United States so Trump wants to expand the failure by using other massively failed tactics - such as tariffs - to further boomerang the damage on the American people and American society including his own supporters? Did I miss anything? So, when I support open borders and letting drug addicts overdose and die to their hearts' content, I'm being unAmerican and standing in the way of Making America Great Again?
You're ignoring how your prayers for open borders contribute to the issue. Your demands if no deportation even for criminals.
Not much you get right.
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Hamsterdam is the only answer to this.
Combined with actually prosecuting theft.
Junkies can do all the drugs they want as long as they leave me alone and I can go shopping without having to ring a bell to have a clerk with a key have to open up a glass window.
You can't possibly be this obtuse, Sullum. I can only assume you are being disingenuous to count coup and grind an axe. Yes, in trade and economics terms, tariffs are basically an indirect tax on your own people. Yes, as a rule, tariffs are badwrongfun. But Trump is a one-trick pony and if you haven't copped to his game by now there is no hope for you. We've been watching him do this in business since the 80's, and in politics for a decade now. He knows Canada and Mexico are in a very weak position when negotiating with the US and that tit-for-tat tariffs will hit their economies much harder than they will hit ours. The threat of tariffs on Mexico with a reference to the cartels and border is a signal of what he's really after. It's not about the trade. Its about coercing cooperation on his signature security issue and associated promises. He wants to show success at the border. Trumps singular tactic is to make over-the-top threats, put his interlocutor on their back foot, and exact concessions and favorable terms. You have to know what he's after. In this case, its all about forcing the Mexican government to cooperate on the border and the cartels. Will it work? I have no idea. But, what I do know, is that you know less about how Trump works than he does about how tariffs work.
Trump has even said in multiple interviews that tariffs would be lowered for any country that lowered theirs.
But the idiot "libertarians" here think liberty is a one way street. They defend against any response to anyone who violates the NAP first. They always demand no response.
He has also said that tariffs by themselves are wonderful, that they are needed to revive manufacturing, and promised blanket tariffs on all imports.
Which is it, because all of that directly conflicts with what you say.
You still seem to fail to understand the difference between punitive, strategic, and other types of tariffs.
Jacob Sullum must be trying to get a job on whatever MSNBC calls itself now.
Trump isn't even president yet and already Mexico has stopped at least 2 of the cartel funded human caravans heading through Mexico trying to get to the border before the inaugeration. Tariffs will not be necessary.
It isn't a magic cure for the drug problem but it reduces the chaos at our southern border so that the cartels don't have the camoflage and border patrol has a better chance of having their attention where it belongs. It also reduces the astronomical profits of the cartels and reduces the numbers of people lost into the slave trade existing here.
Sullum, I do think you have probably passed your interview. Rachel Maddow is panic packing anyway. They will need someone to fill her spot.
Getting a job at MSNBC these days is like getting a job at Kmart
"Jacob Sullum must be trying to get a job on whatever MSNBC calls itself now."
The funniest karma in the universe would have Elon Musk buy it the day after Jake gets hired.
No, he's trying to get a job on The View.
"Rachel Maddow is panic packing anyway. They will need someone to fill her spot."
Nobody can plug the hole in that dyke.
"If stopping the flow of illegal drugs is as straightforward as Trump implies, one might wonder, why didn't he do that during his first term?"
Who wants to tell him?
OK, challenge accepted.
Sullum, Two plus two is four.
It is never five, it is never three, it is never all of those at once.
You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.
Believe it or not, American presidents slap tariffs on imports. Guess how many foreign leaders visited Obama begging them not to slap tariffs on their exports? What's changed?
Fun fact - other countries tariff the heck out of our exports. Fun fact 2 - they need us way more than we need them. They need us for commerce, military assistance, tech and energy.
In 2007, I would have said Trump's approach was overkill. Now I don't care. Trudeau is an asshat and Mexico is a narco state. Japan wouldn't allow a migrant boat to reach korea every single freaking year. This is not how allies behave.
I live in the state with the most immigrants. It's the most expensive state to live in. Reason scaremongers readers every day on the high cost of living under Trumpariff that has already occurred. Enough already.
Fun fact: Blanket protective tariffs like what Trump wants haven’t happened since Smoot Hawley.
Fun fact: Economists warned that Smoot Hawley would be a disaster.
Fun fact: Politicians ignored the economists, and Smoot Hawley was a disaster on a global scale.
Fun fact: Economists are saying the same thing about Trump’s proposed tariffs.
Fun fact: Politicians and their defenders are ignoring economists.
What do you think will happen next?
It will be different this time!
Fuck off and die, Sullum.
The federal government has been trying and failing to do that for more than a century
Maybe if the federal government hadn't been deeply involved in the heroin and cocaine businesses for most of that time, it would have worked better.
Sullum & Boehm endlessly. Tariffs, Tariffs, Tariffs, Tariffs.......
The humorous side is that's the only Anti-Trump subject they can dig up.
Huh?
So, according to the article, most fentanyl in the US drug trade is being made in Mexico from Chinese-provided chemicals and smuggled into the US.
Trump is telling Mexico and China that if they don't take steps to prevent that, he'll tariff them.
What, exactly, doesn't make sense here?
Isn't it trivially obvious that both China and Mexico can take some steps that reduce the amount of precursor chemicals that are shipped to Mexico, and Mexico can take some steps against the local manufacture and export of fentanyl? Isn't it similarly trivially obvious that tariffs would be a cost to Mexico and China, and accordingly they have an incentive to do take some of those steps?
Obviously, there's limits to how much effort the Chinese and Mexicans will spend on avoiding tariffs, and limits to how much effect those efforts will have. It is entirely possible that the threat of tariffs would be better employed to win different policy concessions, or that the use of tariff threats will have costs on the US that exceed the benefits.
But the tactic makes perfect sense.
The flaw in that is that there is no "Mexico" any more. The crime cartels are fully in charge now, and the "government" is just a window display.
They are recruiting "chemistry students studying at Mexican universities" so they can "synthesize the chemical compounds, known as precursors, that are essential to making fentanyl, freeing them from having to import those raw materials from China."
So we're finally getting to "organized crime is successful because it's organized"?
About time you figured out the mobs game, you're only a century late.
Trump is enthusiastic about killing drug dealers
So are most Americans.
Leftist politicians aren't. They want to emote with the drug dealers, and understand their root causes.
Or just give them a license and tax them ...
Sullum is slimy pile of TDS addled pile of shit who needs to fuck off and die.
And, yes, asshole, I would gladly tell you that to your face.
It's time to end drug prohibition.
Let me guess" we will use YOUR idea of what is and isn't a drug, and YOUR idea of what control is. How did I know? Must be a genius ---- or maybe just logical
No, just apply the NAP, all actions are allowed except those involving coercion.
Define 'drug' , define 'prohibition'
THOUGHT SO 🙂
Does it make any sense that someone who is for NO drug control complains about how drug control should be done 🙂
Like telling your 99-year old grandmother that you don't think she needs to quit smoking because the link to decreased longevity has not been proved. I will pass on this article.
Maybe a 'Gun' isn't the proper tool to be used for persuasion.
Funny how everyone wants to soft-core the tool of government just to get their dictator ways.
JS;dr
Same.
JS;dr
Typical 'reason' strawman. It's not a tariff on fentanyl, you morons, it's a club to get Mexico to control the border and China to stop the flow of precursors -- as you plainly admit in the article. And what does the death penalty have to do with tariffs? The real solution is for libbertarians to stop smoking fentanyl.
Another excellent column by Sallum that is immediately dismissed by the fake libertarian MAGA scum that have invaded this website. These statist clowns get easily triggered at the first sight of a columnist not sucking dear leader Trump’s dick.
As I implored you folks the other day, please leave this website. You’re not wanted here!
Once again, good job Jacob!
Sullum is the last person I would ever walk into a complex or difficult negotiation with. Trump's tactics make perfect sense for anyone who has ever had to leverage an outcome in a negotiation with someone who doesn't want to do what you are asking. Sullum's thinking is very short-game and linear in formation and lacks imagination. That, or he is so monomaniacally focused on criticizing his bete noir, Trump, that he disingenuously ignores the obvious. When you need to lever an entrenched interlocutor, you pick their maximum pain point, especially when it's an area in which you have all the advantages, and you push hard. Beyond that, we also want to renegotiate NAFTA, so this is a dual-purpose lever. Mexico doesn't have the political desire to secure its borders with the US or move against the cartels, and Canada simply doesn't want to spend money on them. This hits both where they live in a sphere they are dependent on the US in and in which we can sustain the fight much longer than they can. If they give Trump what he wants on border and drug enforcement he can dial it back a little, get some improved trade terms, and call it a win. There is a clear logic to the strategy. Whether you love or hate Trump's bully-boy tactics and sophomoric mouth, and whether you feel comfortable dealing with long-term partners and allies in such a brusque and aggressive fashion or not, saying it "makes no sense" makes you look foolish and small-minded.