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Free Trade

Return of the 'Tariff Man'

Plus: Are tariffs inflationary, RIP to a giant of the free market movement, and more...

Eric Boehm | 11.26.2024 9:30 AM

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Donald Trump with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Mexician President Enrique Pena Neto at the signing of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) in 2018. (Ron Przysucha/ZUMA Press/Newscom)

Okay, so we're doing this. President-elect Donald Trump says in no uncertain terms that he'll seek to raise taxes on imports immediately after taking the oath of office.

"On January 20, as one of my many first executive orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% tariff on ALL products coming into the United States," Trump posted Monday night on Truth Social.

In the statement, Trump said the tariffs would be issued in response to "thousands of people…pouring through" the border from America's two neighbors, and that the tariffs would remain in effect until Mexico and Canada take steps to stop the flow of drugs and migrants. "Until such time as they do, it's time for them to pay a very big price," Trump concluded.

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In a separate post, Trump pledged 10 percent tariffs on all imports from China—to be added on top of the tariffs he'd already hiked during his first term

One might object to the idea that it makes any sense at all to solve the issue of undocumented border crossings with tariffs (it doesn't), or address the flow of illegal drugs with taxes on legally imported goods (it really doesn't). Even so, the most striking thing about Monday's announcement is that Trump seemingly still does not understand it will be Americans who will foot the bill for any new tariffs.

The threatened tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico would be a $210 billion tax increase. Imposing them would mean higher prices for many fresh fruits and vegetables currently imported from Mexico, and higher prices for crude oil imported from Canada, among other things.

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Good thing Americans aren't too sensitive about prices at the grocery store or gas pump right now!

What about the USMCA? The new tariffs would probably violate the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), the trade deal Trump negotiated during his first term. Breaking the agreement would likely set off a continent-wide trade war that jeopardizes $1.5 trillion in annual trade, The Washington Post reports.

"If Trump follows through with imposing immediate and unilateral tariffs, this would mean 'going nuclear' on USMCA," Alberto Villarreal, managing director of Nepanoa, a consulting firm that helps companies manage cross-border trade, told The Wall Street Journal.

Already trying to explain away price hikes. Scott Bessent, Trump's pick to be Treasury Secretary, is trying to get ahead of the tariff news cycle. In an interview on Saturday, he claimed that new tariffs wouldn't trigger a return to higher inflation. "Tariffs can't be inflationary because if the price of one thing goes up—unless you give people more money—then they have less money to spend on the other thing, so there is no inflation," Bessent told Larry Kudlow.

In the strictest sense of the words, Bessent is right about inflation, which is always a monetary phenomenon. Tariffs operate in the realm of fiscal policy, but the outcome will look pretty similar.

Think about it like this. There are two ways for consumers' purchasing power to decline. One way is for the dollar to become less valuable, so that you have to spend more dollars to buy the same amount of goods. That's inflation, and anyone who has been to the grocery store in the past few years is familiar with it.

The second way is for the goods themselves to become more costly, which is what happens when tariffs are imposed. The end result is the same: You have to spend more dollars to buy the same amount of stuff as before. And economists are already warning that tariffs will cause prices to rise, particularly at the grocery store.

In essence, Bessent is saying that Americans won't get poorer because of inflation, but that they will get poorer ("they have less money to spend") because the Trump administration is determined to raise taxes on a lot of the things Americans buy. That might be a meaningful distinction in an economics class, but I doubt the difference will matter much to consumers already fed up with years of price increases. Good luck, babe!

Is it all a bluff? Tariffs are not, thankfully, implemented via presidential social media post, and we're still nearly two months away from Trump being in a position to do anything more substantial. That's led some observers to conclude that Monday's threats are merely the opening salvo in what Trump hopes will be another round of negotiations over trade policy—although he seems to be putting immigration and the war on drugs into the mix too.

"Investors don't entirely believe the levies will wind up being implemented," one Wall Street analyst told CNBC on Tuesday morning. But promising new tariffs on his first day in office seems to leave little opportunity for negotiations.

Even if it is just a bluff, the ability of a sitting president to disrupt trillions of dollars in private commerce with little oversight from Congress should put even more pressure on lawmakers to pass Sen. Rand Paul's (R–Ky.) bill to require congressional approval of any new tariffs. That bill might be the last chance for lawmakers to take the "tax increase" button out of the Oval Office before Trump arrives.

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In Memoriam: Fred Smith, the quirky and brilliant founder of the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI), passed away on Saturday night.

"He was gregarious, whip-smart, stubbornly principled, and he was fun," writes CEI senior economist Ryan Smith in a tribute to his former boss. "Everybody in Washington knew Fred, and Fred knew everybody. Even people who disagreed with everything he stood for couldn't help but like him. He was always smiling and laughing, even when making serious intellectual arguments. People around him couldn't help but take on some of his joy. Fred was a Washington institution, in a good way."

Many in the free market movement owe their jobs and inspiration to Smith. For those of us, like myself, who never worked directly for Smith or CEI, his reputation (and that of his wife Fran, who lives on) was always larger than life. That part won't change.


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  1. Chumby   7 months ago

    Trumpets Sound

    The US Department of Justice has dropped all federal cases against Donald Trump — Trump transition team communications director Steven Chun

    DoJ abolished the witch hunt. Prepare for Reason to make the Libertarian case against this. Polymarket has JS:dr in the lead for this effort.

    1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      Odds on Jack smith fleeing the country?

      1. Chumby   7 months ago

        My bingo card has him holing up in a sanctuary city.

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

          Preferably Tehran. He can start up a gay rights law firm there

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

            I’d wager on wherever the Obamas have run off to. They left the country a week or two ago.

            1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

              A good start

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

          Escape TO New York?

        3. Commenter_XY   7 months ago

          Jack Smith already lined up a cushy job at a BigLaw firm. He will be fine. He should actually go to work for the ICC, it suits him.

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

            On top of his USSC scolding for his overreach a decade ago, he now fails here.

            His claim to fame is prosecutorial abuses.

      2. Moderation4ever   7 months ago

        Zero. Trump puts Jack Smith on trial and he will effectively be putting himself on trial.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

          And how so? Smith was appointed by Garland and tasked with interfering with the election, which is why these investigations and trials are winding down now.

          1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

            M4e is not a deep thinker.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

              I kind of gathered that much.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   7 months ago

            M4e is right in this case, but not for the reason he thinks.

            Trump has shown very little inclination to actually hit back at his enemies in any substantive way after the contest is completed. He'll talk shit on social media, but the man's been blustering for nearly 50 years and it's rare that anyone's suffered anything worse during this time in the public eye than simply getting fired.

            It's why this whole "MUH PRESHUS NOrMZ" nonsense coming from the left (thoroughly disingenuous since they gleefully slander whenever they feel like it) and the neocons (because they're bottom bitch jobbers who are deluded about the nature of American politics) has no credibility. The only norm Trump has really violated is not being a Republican who doesn't use the bully pulpit and media outreach to promote his agenda. He's not a savant at it, but he at least understands how the game is played because he's got his own Illuminati card. Even the election denialism isn't any precedent, because the left's been playing the "not my President" game since 2001. As for January 6th, the left bombed the very same building. Twice. Because they were openly trying to overthrow the United States, not spazzing out about the results of a very shady election.

            1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

              "It’s why this whole “MUH PRESHUS NOrMZ” nonsense coming from the left (thoroughly disingenuous since they gleefully slander whenever they feel like it)"

              That one is particularly egregious to me because since 2019 they smashed every single norm there was and ground them into the dirt with their heel. The hypocrites.

        2. TrickyVic (old school)   7 months ago

          ""Trump puts Jack Smith on trial""

          What are the charges?

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

            Would be amusing to see Bondi using the same claims of deprivation of rights Smith tried to use.

            1. windycityattorney   7 months ago

              But putting Trump on trial doesn't deprive anybody other than Trump of potential rights since they could still vote for him whereas if Trump had been successful in his post-election coup attempt; everybody who voted for the actual winner of that election would have been deprived of their vote counting.

              So I don't think that works.

              Also, there is the fact, that a grand jury heard the evidence in D.C. and South Florida and voted to pursue charges/indictment. Which is a layer in between Jack Smith and any potential charges.

              Unless you want to argue the grand jury was compromised somehow by Jack Smith's team (putting pre selected anti-Trump jurors on the panel?) - not sure any of this would go anywhere or be upheld by the courts.

              Trump should just do what he always does when he wants to make a stupid point: sue Jack Smith for eleventy billion trillion dollars. [Dr Evil.gif]

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

                Dude, for one, a grand jury could be convinced to indict a fucking ham sandwich, and not the one involved in allegedly doing in Mama Cass. Two, how does going after Smith for his potentially illegal prosecution put Trump on trial?

              2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

                So.... deprivation of Trumps rights.

                Why do you pretend to be an attorney.

                1. Chumby   7 months ago

                  He’s not an attorney, but he did blow a few truckers in the parking lot of a Holiday Inn Express.

              3. R Mac   7 months ago

                Nobody believes this guy’s an attorney.

                1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

                  I bet Sarc does.

          2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   7 months ago

            DONNIE DONT NEED NO CHARGES! HE GOT IMMUNITY!

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

              Hush, dingbat, the adults are talking.

              1. damikesc   7 months ago

                That will certainly shut him up.

                Tell him "Hey, underage kids are talking" and you'd never get rid of him.

              2. Chumby   7 months ago

                He does prefer the company of children over adults.

                1. windycityattorney   7 months ago

                  So you are saying that Sarah Palin's Buttplug was Matt Gaetz this whole time?

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

                    Pluggo’s tastes run a bit younger and are of the opposing sex.

                  2. Chumby   7 months ago

                    No. Pluggo posted links to child pornography here. His original account was banned and the thread was purged. Similar to Pete Buttogieg’s mayoral buddy Patrick Wojahn (D).

        3. Moderation4ever   7 months ago

          Jack Smith will be able to use all the evidence gathered on Trump in his defense to prove that he was acting in accordance with the law to prosecute a criminal, Trump. An acquittal of Smith confirms Trump's guilt. Let me remind you that the investigation of the people conducting the Russian interference probe turned up nothing and investigating Jack Smith will likely do nothing again.

          1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

            You aren't just retarded, you're also fascist too, huh?

  2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

    Not a word of tarrifs during Biden... Hmm it's almost like bohem is an evil retarded subhuman faggot hack

    1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

      There were lots of articles critical of Biden's tariffs. But because that contradicts the narrative, Trump defenders refuse to comment on them. Doing so would mean acknowledging that they exist, and Trump defenders can't do that because that would be honest.

      1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

        Poor sarc.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

        Pour Sarc.

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

          Several dozen times per day.

      3. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

        Really Sarckles? Lots?

        Well then you should have no problem going to the search feature, typing in 'tariffs' and providing us with a few.

        And remember, just mentioning them as an 'also' on an article condemning Trump doesn't count. An actual article condemning Biden's tariffs specifically. To match the 10,000 condemning Trump.

        1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

          I’m not going to do your homework for you. Especially because you’re a lying sack of shit that would just deny that the articles exist, even with links.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

            If you’re going to make an assertion, back it up with a link and a cite. Otherwise, you’re just an ass.

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

              He made the claim he was attacked in the months over obamas first election. Provided him the search. Proves he was full of shit then. That's all he does is throw shit.

              1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

                He’s a huge crybaby too.

          2. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

            Ha Ha

          3. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

            I’m not going to do your homework for you.

            You don't get it, in a roundabout way... I'm - calling - you - a - liar.

            1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

              Of course you are. And I don't really care because you're a piece of shit.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

                He’s not the one throwing shit here.

              2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

                Lol, chickenshit. You lied, got called out, and are now pretending you're the victim.
                And you're too fucking stupid to realize how obvious it looks to everyone.

                1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

                  Not everyone. Just your fellow Trump defending mental defectives. You know, idiot liars who refuse to comment on those articles because doing so would mean admitting that they exist.

                  1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

                    Everyone retard.

                    Searching the Reason archive is like the easiest thing to do and you know it and so does everyone else. But you refused because you were lying.

                    1. Alberto Balsalm   7 months ago

                      And two minutes in the archive clearly shows that Reason, the magazine that you disagree with yet show up every day to whine about, has consistently written articles criticizing tarrifs, regardless of who is in power. You are an idiot.

                    2. R Mac   7 months ago

                      Oops.

                      https://reason.com/2024/11/26/return-of-the-tariff-man/?comments=true#comment-10815534

                    3. sarcasmic   7 months ago

                      And two minutes in the archive clearly shows that Reason, the magazine that you disagree with yet show up every day to whine about, has consistently written articles criticizing tarrifs, regardless of who is in power. You are an idiot.

                      He’s not just any idiot. No. He’s a Canadian idiot.

                    4. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

                      Sarc, the xenophobic drunk.

                    5. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

                      “Alberto Balsalm 2 hours ago
                      And two minutes in the archive clearly shows that Reason, the magazine that you disagree with yet show up every day to whine about, has consistently written articles criticizing tarrifs, regardless of who is in power. You are an idiot.”

                      Well that’s just dandy then, sockpuppet. But why didn’t you link us to all the ones you found then?
                      I’m interested to see all these Boehm and Sullum articles condemning Biden’s tariffs.

                      I’ll even help: https://reason.com/search/tariffs/

                      Go hard. you stupid lying fucks.

                    6. sarcasmic   7 months ago

                      As I said before, I'm not going to do your homework for you. That and we both know that you will just lie and claim that any article presented doesn’t exist. Just like you lied for a year when you accidentally proved I was being socked. You’re a shameless liar and a shitty human being.

                    7. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

                      “As I said before, I’m not going to do your homework for you”

                      I just did it for YOU, lying bitch. Right there in the link, and what a surprise. You were fucking lying. Just like the drunken wife-beating troll you are.

                  2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

                    Yes, dumbass, everyone except your buddies Jeffy, White Mike, and the Pedo. Even people who rarely interact with your retarded carcass call you out for being an asshole here, dipshit.

                  3. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

                    In other words, anyone who doesn’t buy into your unsupported bullshit narratives is lying. This is why you never provide any evidence to back yourself up. You’re lying, and you know you’re lying.

                    You should leave forever and go to WaPo, where they will gobble up you your leftist TDS fueled lies. Although I am enjoying the show here, where you torture yourself with all this nonsense.

          4. Uilleam   7 months ago

            I did it for you. 1089 results for Trump and tariff over the last 8 years. 335 results for Biden and tariff over the same time period. What is most interesting is that throughout both the Trump/tariff history and Biden/tariff history, the tariffs are always referred to as Trump’s tariffs; i.e. Trumps tariffs during Biden administration/why doesn’t Biden do something about Trumps tariffs. Does that seem biased?

            1. R Mac   7 months ago

              I’m sure sarc will respond honestly and in good faith to this comment.

        2. DesigNate   7 months ago

          In Sarc’s defense, there were lots of articles critical of tariffs. They just usually found a way to make it about Trump.

          Also in Sarc’s defense, he stays pretty consistent on his stance on tariffs, even though I disagree with him about their use and effectiveness.

          1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

            They just usually found a way to make it about Trump.

            Why in the world would articles about tariffs wind up talking about a guy who brags about being Tariff Man, who says he’s never met a tariff he didn’t like, who’s been advocating for protectionism since the 80s, and has made tariffs a central part of his campaign and administration?

            That makes no sense at all.

            Also in Sarc’s defense, he stays pretty consistent on his stance on tariffs, even though I disagree with him about their use and effectiveness.

            ML knows this. But he's a piece of shit liar who will never admit to it.

            1. DesigNate   7 months ago

              “Why in the world would articles about tariffs wind up talking about a guy who brags about being Tariff Man,”

              Because he hasn’t occupied the White House for four years so there’s no need to bring him up in an article where you’re ostensibly criticizing the guy in power?

              1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

                Sarc isn’t capable of understanding that.

      4. R Mac   7 months ago

        What a pathetic existence.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

          The inanity or the addiction to abuse?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

            Both.

          2. R Mac   7 months ago

            All of it.

      5. TrickyVic (old school)   7 months ago

        ""There were lots of articles critical of Biden’s tariffs.""

        Not on here. That's the reason I kept posting the Biden China tariffs.

        https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/05/14/fact-sheet-president-biden-takes-action-to-protect-american-workers-and-businesses-from-chinas-unfair-trade-practices/

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

          There would be some reference to Biden’s tariffs before whichever hack writer (typically Boehm) would start raving about Trump. Kind of like Sarc.

      6. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

        Sarc heard “ evil retarded subhuman faggot hack” and came running.

  3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

    Regulatory growth is also inflationary. 1.5T added under Joe. Yet we are still talking tariffs less than one third of current costs for illegal immigration. It is amazing.

    If you honestly cared about inflation you’d also talk about regulatory policy, energy policy, etc. But it almost never is discussed here compared to tariffs.

    The tariffs will end when Canada and Mexico stop pushing illegals across the border. It is their choice to act.

    The threatened tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico would be a $210 billion tax increase.

    Add thr 1.5T to the 150B from costs for illegal immigrants...

    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

      To be fair we're not pushing illegals across the border. Trudeau is doing the WEF population replacement thing here too, and the ones crossing south because they don't like -40 are losses to the project.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

        Canada is too loose with their visa system, making them a primary destination for illegals going to the US. Could easily be tightened up.

        1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

          You said "pushing." Defend yourself or admit to lying.

          1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

            He’s not going to do your homework.

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

              Here is his cite.

              https://reason.com/2023/05/04/tiktok-goes-from-silly-to-serious/?comments=true#comment-10047846

          2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

            What are you babbling about, retard.

          3. R Mac   7 months ago

            Sarc continues his descent into Hihn territory.

        2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

          Canada is too loose with their visa system

          Yes. On purpose.

          We don't have a border they'd want to sneak across, so Trudeau has to lift his fences at the airports.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

            And this is how you get places like Bramalesh and people pooping on beaches.

      2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

        I was talking to a fairly left Canadian girl last night. Even she hates Trudeau and wants the conservatives in power.

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

      Man. 12 hours in and already working.

      Eric Daugherty
      @EricLDaugh
      NEW: 12 hour aftermath of Trump threatening 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

      – Canada PM Justin Trudeau calls Trump to discuss border security
      – Mexican president announces migrant caravans will be halted

      Video of Mexican president.

      https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1861420061774487972

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   7 months ago

        Keep in mind, the man isn't even technically President yet, but these leaders are already acting like he's in the seat.

        Canada doesn't have much to worry about as far as tariffs go, but but there's too much economic synchronicity in the post-NAFTA northern hemisphere to not be aware that the US is probably better equipped to handle more tariffs on the books than Canada is.

        As for Mexico, the commie female is already talking about increasing tariffs herself, which is fine. Mexico is an easy place to start dumping off all of the illegals that have crossed the border lately. I'm sure Sheinbaum will be happy to have all those hard-working ecomomic boosters in the country.

        1. R Mac   7 months ago

          Israel and Lebanon have just agreed to a ceasefire.

          1. mamabug   7 months ago

            Probably because Lebanon realized that Trump's middle east policy would be to basically wave at Netanyahu while telling him to 'have fun storming the citadel'

            1. Chumby   7 months ago

              Reportedly, Biden threatened to float an anti Israel UN resolution if Tel Aviv didn’t comply. Some info way down at the bottom.

              1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

                He’s also been slow walking critical arms sales to Israel. So they are running out of key weapons to continue their offensive.

                How people are willing to let the democrat party exist is beyond me.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

            What’s next, cats and dogs living together, Eric Boehm apologizing for being and idiot, and Sarc growing a brain?

  4. Chumby   7 months ago

    Sacre Blow

    UK and France could send troops to Ukraine amid the possibility of a US disengagement from Kyiv following the election of Trump, sources tell Le Monde

    Payback opportunity for Sevastopol and Balaclava. Charge of the Bud Light brigade warming up in the bull steer pen.

    1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      You know you are fucked of the French are fighting on your side.

      1. Chumby   7 months ago

        Their amphibious assault units should be fully staffed given how many frogmen they have available.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

        Fighting? For at least 24 hours, n'est pas?

    2. damikesc   7 months ago

      I'm not going to make French jokes (honestly, before WW II, they were effective as all hell), but the condition of both countries militaries is a known commodity.

      1. Ajsloss   7 months ago

        You know who else was effective before WWII?

        1. Chumby   7 months ago

          Fatty Arbuckle?

          1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

            Margeret Sanger?

        2. damikesc   7 months ago

          Stalin?

        3. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

          Chiang Kai Shek?

        4. Kungpowderfinger   7 months ago

          Arthur Neville Chamberlain?

        5. Vernon Depner   7 months ago

          Clark Gable?

    3. Eeyore   7 months ago

      Watching French troops and North Korean troops kill each other?

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   7 months ago

      Fuckin’ LOL that the UK and France might actually send their own troops to die for Larry Fink and Blackrock.

      1. Eeyore   7 months ago

        Aren't their governments as bought and paid for by the same people as our government?

      2. Kungpowderfinger   7 months ago

        They didn’t have a problem doing it for JP Morgan and the fucking Rothschilds

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   7 months ago

          I know, that's what makes it so fucking hilarious.

  5. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 months ago

    "On January 20, as one of my many first executive orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% tariff on ALL products coming into the United States,"

    NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION! FOLLOW THE DAMN CONSTITUTION!

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

      Technically speeking tarrifs are the only tax allowed by the constitution

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 months ago

        Not by Executive Order, all taxes must arise from the House. And we also have the 16th A, which should be repealed but income tax is also Constitutional.

        1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

          Nobody told Joe that.

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 months ago

            I did and Fuck Joe Biden, he's a scumbag.

        2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

          Yep the (d) used the same voting shenanigans to get that one "passed" too

        3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

          1962 President Kennedy signed into law the Trade Expansion Act, which allows the President to adjust tariffs based on threats to national security under section 232.

          Repeal the JFK signed act.

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 months ago

            Which Amendment granted Congress the power to change the Constitution?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

              The square root of -1 amendment.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

                So imaginary.

            2. sarcasmic   7 months ago

              It's the "Fuck you, that's why" clause that can only be seen by Ivy League educated lawyers in black robes.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

                Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

                1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

                  Sarc's actually methhead skinny. But the drunk and stupid part are accurate.

                  1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

                    Yeah, Sarc being fat would mean he’s diverting booze money for food purchases. Which is ridiculous.

            3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

              Are you ignorant to delegation authority? I don't agree with it but it is a long held position.

              1. Eeyore   7 months ago

                The constitution does not grant Congress the power to delegate.

                1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

                  Again. I don’t agree with it but the USSC has upheld it.

                  The executive is granted the ability to faithfully execute the laws, in the constitution. I hate the vagueness of the take care clause, but it is what it is.

                  At least this is based on Congressional law unlike the Paris accords.

                  1. Eeyore   7 months ago

                    I should read that again. I don't remember it.

                  2. Eeyore   7 months ago

                    What recourse does the president have regarding unconstitutional laws previous presidents have signed into law? Should the DOJ be used? It feels like they end up being used to try and take powers that the government should not have.

                    1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

                      None. That's the role of the Court. Problem is that they won't do it.

                      Madison thought that by separating powers into three branches of government, the branches would be a check on each other in their own quest for power. He never imagined them colluding to concentrate power into the executive branch, making the president into a quasi-king.

                    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

                      They are required under the take care clause to act in the manner determined by the courts from Congressional direction. This was the entire argument surrounding the impoundment act and when Clinton tried to do line item veto.

                    3. DesigNate   7 months ago

                      Fucking Hamilton got his way in the end.

                    4. Chumby   7 months ago

                      It is a burrden with which we must all live.

      2. Mickey Rat   7 months ago

        In the unamended Constitution, that is

    2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

      Are Canadians in Canada eligible for the blessings of the US constitution?

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 months ago

        Fuck, Canada. This about America and it's law governing the most destructive power, after nukes, our leaders have at their disposal. No one man was granted that power by the States for good reason.

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

          Fuck canada
          Ml’s home and native land
          True tranny love
          In all treudos command
          With glowing hearts
          first nations die
          The true Noth
          Queer and French

          Ohhhh canada
          We pledge our tax to thee

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

            Wouldn’t just linking “Blame Canada” be easier?

            1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

              Yes but not as fun

            2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

              How about “Pedo Jeffy is a big fat bitch’?

          2. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 months ago

            It's just not about Canada or China or whomever...I don't want a president to tax by executive order. It is wholly antithetical to our Revolution and the Constitution.

          3. Vernon Depner   7 months ago

            54°40′ or fight.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

              We could always revive the Pig War.

              1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   7 months ago

                We still haven’t fully recovered from that horrendous conflict here in the San Juans. The battle scarred hillsides are a monument to that tasty pig for all time.

        2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

          Fuck, Canada.

          No.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

            Just bribe the officials with beer and donuts, eh?

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

              Take off, hoser.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

                No, you take off, eh.

                1. Dillinger   7 months ago

                  beauty comeback.

          2. Jefferson Paul   7 months ago

            Off topic, but related to Canada.

            I started watching Letterkenny, from a friend's recommendation, and it's pretty good. I would say it's somehow one of the dumbest and smartest shows I've seen.

            1. R Mac   7 months ago

              Michelle Mylett = would

              1. Jefferson Paul   7 months ago

                What (hetero) guy wouldn't?

  6. Chumby   7 months ago

    Army of Juan

    Sen. Rand Paul says he "will not support" use of military in Trump's planned deportations

    Republican Sen. Rand Pual of Kentucky tells "Face the Nation" that while he supports President-elect Donald Trump's plans for mass deportation, but through the "normal process of domestic policing." "I will not support and will not vote to use the military in our cities," Paul said.

    Good. Most need to be laid off, particularly the ones that cannot meet the physical standards of a man that hasn’t chopped off his/her nuts.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

      Nutless soldiers define a new type of Light Brigade.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

        A Dickless Charge for the lost cause.

      2. Chumby   7 months ago

        Your non-birthing mon wears army boots.

      3. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

        Into the valley of micro-aggressions
        Rode the six hundred.

        Dead-naming to right of them,
        Homophobia to left of them,
        Lived experience invalidation in front of them
        Volleyed and thundered;

      4. Jefferson Paul   7 months ago

        An army of Unsullied?

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

      Waiting for the poem
      "charge of the light in the loafers brigade"

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

        I think you are looking for the navy.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

          Where can you find pleasure?
          Search the world for treasure
          Learn science technology
          Where can you begin to make your dreams all come true?
          On the land or on the sea?

          1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

            Burn the land
            Boil the sea
            You can't take the sky from me

            1. Uilleam   7 months ago

              Excellent show, what little there is of it.

      2. Jefferson Paul   7 months ago

        All this talk about "The Charge of the Light Brigade" made me want to watch the old-school video of Iron Maiden's "The Trooper," which is based on the poem.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4bgXH3sJ2Q

    3. Ajsloss   7 months ago

      Worked for the Unsullied.

  7. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

    "Medicaid cover the cost of new anti-obesity drugs, which would ...poorer Americans"

    The correlation between obesity and poverty (EBT, SNAP...) is pretty clear. So now we're going to pay to make people fat by providing them cash to buy shitty food (because "oh god, you can't stigmatize people's food choices"...proving it's not about "nutrition" at all) AND pay to give them drugs to counter the obesity caused by their shitty food and lifestyle choices?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

      How rich is a society where the biggest problem for poor people is too much food?

      1. DesigNate   7 months ago

        Insanely fucking rich.

        And it’s. Never. Enough.

    2. Commenter_XY   7 months ago

      Until generics come to market, I am not at all supportive of Medicare covering the anti-obesity drugs. It is nothing but an elegant payoff to Big Pharma.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

        You have a very loose definition of elegant

        1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

          Blatant would be a better word.

      2. JFree   7 months ago

        Until doctors actually understand how to help the obese - in their office - to lose weight - they shouldn't be using those drugs as a crutch.

        The reason those drugs exist is because doctors don't know how to do what they should be doing.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   7 months ago

          How to Drs force people to make better choices?

          1. JFree   7 months ago

            Insulin resistance is not about willpower. Nor is leptin resistance. Or a gut biome that eats sugar rather than fiber - and sends messages to the brain saying that. Nor is resistance to the chemicals added to processed food that is intended to create 'addictions'. Nor are food pyramids that food producers pay govt to serve as a marketing tool.

            Nor is willpower a solution to doctors lack of knowledge/education about nutrition. Roughly 24 hrs in med school even though that is going to be the underlying issue behind maybe a majority of the medical issues they deal with.

            Blaming the victim makes for good politics but the reality is the medical system makes money on people remaining obese (or getting more so). They don't make money by having patients get healthy. As long as those are the incentives of the system, willpower is a delusion of the stupid.

            1. Spiritus Mundi   7 months ago

              Funny, the group that thinks you can change your gender, doesn't think you can change your weight. All those things you mention are a result of life style choices. Everything you eat or don't eat is a personal choice. Not exercising is a personal choice.

              1. JFree   7 months ago

                As I said – blaming the victim makes for good politics.

                What may have been a ‘choice’ at one time – say as a kid wanting to eat a candy bar – becomes far less of a ‘choice’ after 20 or more years of fucked up reinforcement. Physically and chemically and neurologically. I’m not obese but I certainly gained weight after age 50. Not because of what I ate. I eat significantly less than I did in my 20’s. But my body/metabolism changed and my diet didn’t change as much. No clinical doctor has ever been worth a shit re nutrition. More significantly, they all advise AGAINST the one thing that helped me – occasional fasting for 3-5 days. I can easily see a situation in which a doctor who understands that protocol could also understand that a 3-5 day prescription for Ozempic in conjunction with that might also help.

                None of that matters to you who find a political advantage in blaming the victim. And btw – you don’t know shit about nutrition either. Or 'free will' or 'choice' either.

                1. Spiritus Mundi   7 months ago

                  Fat people aren't victims of anything other then their own bad decisions dumbass.

                2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   7 months ago

                  Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair!

                  Haha. Jfree: the new tony.

                3. R Mac   7 months ago

                  Wtf kind of political advantage did he get? Lol, fucking idiot.

              2. Vernon Depner   7 months ago

                Everything you eat or don’t eat is a personal choice. Not exercising is a personal choice.

                That is a faith-based belief, not a matter of fact or science.

                1. R Mac   7 months ago

                  You don’t decide what you eat and whether or not you exercise? Do you live in a facility of some sort?

                  1. Roberta   7 months ago

                    You decide those things. What you can't decide is to feel comfortable about not being in a positive caloric balance.

                    Same as you can decide not to fuck, but you can't decide to enjoy fucking those of a certain sex.

                    1. Vernon Depner   7 months ago
                  2. Vernon Depner   7 months ago

                    That our conscious intellect is an all-powerful executive in full charge of all our actions, regardless of physical and subconscious drives and motivations, is a belief or theory, not a fact. On the contrary, observation of human behavior provides abundant evidence that that is not the case. An honest observer must allow that the extent to which we consciously "decide" on our actions is at least debatable.

                    1. R Mac   7 months ago

                      So you’re a weak ass bitch that lacks self discipline. Got it.

                    2. Vernon Depner   7 months ago

                      So you’re a dumb jock who lacks the intellectual curiosity to converse about this. Got it.

        2. Roberta   7 months ago

          The only thing that's going to work is a way that makes people stop being uncomfortable every minute of their adult lives that they're not eating enough to gain 2-3 pounds a year.

          1. JFree   7 months ago

            That’s why I went to fasting. Day two can be tough but then you tend to lose your hunger and your body recognizes fat as an energy source. The more you do it, the easier it becomes. We evolved as a feast-famine animal. Fasting is not unnatural.

            What doctors could be useful for is knowing how that all varies by age, weight, eating habits, etc. We are not a ruminant grazer designed for multiple meals and snacks and a full fridge and plenty of restaurants on call – the perpetual eating machine

      3. Spiritus Mundi   7 months ago

        Medicare spends bigly on obesity related diseases. Its chicken and egg at this point. Is it cheaper to give them ozempic or diabetus meds?

        1. Commenter_XY   7 months ago

          metformin is much cheaper.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

      Duct tape is cheaper.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 months ago

        And lucrative for the poor obese. Just duct tape a twinkie to a wall and wait for the millions to pour in.

    4. Ron   7 months ago

      most people would just double down on their bad living habits once they get the obesity pill. Just like so many will drink multiples of diet soda thinking its safe to do so.
      other note if you go off the pill the fat comes right back without life style changes. this is stupid pandering and wasteful and only hurts those who do need it for things other than weight

      1. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

        I flashed back to a memory I had of reading a short story in Omni Magazine as a teenager, and google came up with the right reference.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Farm

        Martin Barth is a very rich man with a serious overeating problem. When his obesity interferes with his enjoyment of his lifestyle, he goes to a secret clinic, gets himself cloned and then transfers his memories into the clone.

        After Barth has legally transferred his identity to his replacement and it is too late to change his mind, he is told that he is now the property of the company that runs the clinic. His name is now "H", because he is the eighth "edition" of himself to go through the process. He has a choice: immediate death or "an assignment". Since he doesn't want to die he agrees to work for the company. He is dragged to a camp in the middle of nowhere and forced to do manual labor so that he will be in shape for the unspecified job they want him to do.

        After two years, with only a brutal overseer for company, "H" is given his assignment. He leaves the camp, just in time to see his clone "I" - who is now fat - dragged into the camp to begin the process over again.

        As his plane is taking off, "H" thinks about how much he hates himself for repeating this process over and over again. He wishes that the newest clone would suffer even more than he had. After telling this to the businessman, who is his new supervisor, the young man laughs out loud. He explains that the overseer (or "old man" as "H" refers to him) is actually "A", the original.

        1. CountmontyC   7 months ago

          I remember the magazine and that story( I believe I read it in a compilation of their short stories).

      2. Vernon Depner   7 months ago

        most people would just double down on their bad living habits once they get the obesity pill.

        Cite?

        1. DesigNate   7 months ago

          Because the people that got gastric bypass didn’t do it either, and they literally had surgery.

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18392907/

    5. Kungpowderfinger   7 months ago

      Medicaid cover the cost of new anti-obesity drugs, which would …

      Now I too can live like an aged out Hollywood actor. Thanks for making my wildest dreams come true, Uncle Joe.

  8. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

    Just for fun, how's about we impose tariffs based on the individual leaders of other countries? A Trudeau-specific tariff? A Sheinbaum tax? A Xi fee?

    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

      "A Trudeau-specific tariff?"

      A 300% tariff on Taylor Swift tickets?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

        They still haven’t fully apologized for Bryan Adams yet, have they?

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

          Or beiber.

          But thank you for shatner

        2. Chumby   7 months ago

          Loverboy, Nickelback, and Anne Murray.

          Will leave it with some Canadian Snow:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSffz_bl6zo

          1. Kungpowderfinger   7 months ago

            Even Vanilla Ice thinks that guy’s a sucka

            1. Chumby   7 months ago

              Believe Snow raps with the same patois that former Toronto mayor Rob Ford (RIP) used when he was high on crack.

        3. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

          While Montréal burned on the weekend our feckless leader was dancing at a Taylor Swift concert with teenage girls. No, really.

          His constituency was actually one of the spots they were rioting at.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

            Is that a Canadian thing?

            Years ago I was at a week-long business partner meeting in Calgary. We had typical group dinners most evenings. After one dinner, a local guy suggested we go to a local club for a drink, and about 6 of us went along. About 15 minutes after we got there, we figured out that (1) it was a teen dance club, (2) they did not serve alcohol, and (3) it was really, really weird. But the local guy was very happy, and stayed after the rest of us left.

            1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

              No. Both Justin and your local guy were pedophiles. I've never actually heard of a teen dance club before.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

                I have. There used to be a couple in the area. One started out as a gentlemen’s club, but due to local objections changed over to a non-alcoholic dance club. The other was a non-alcoholic dance club during some hours, then an adults only (21+) during later hours in the evening. Both are long gone.

              2. R Mac   7 months ago

                We had some nearby when I was growing up. It was for all the people that didn’t go to actual parties with alcohol. No idea what it was like.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

            Justin’s father would’ve (as much as I don’t like Pierre Elliot) knocked him into next week for that shit.

            1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

              And his real father would smoke a cigar while imprisoning political opponents. Hmm he is more like his real father

            2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

              Pierre is the creep who opened the door for all that garbage in the first place.

              Justin's real father however, might have.

              1. Chumby   7 months ago

                There was a joke about the alleged sexcapade Mrs Trudeau had when Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, et al visited after playing a show in Ottawa.

                The Trudeaus recently made a new pathway in their garden. Pierre dug out the soil and leveled the base while Margaret laid the Stones.

        4. Rex L'Amoureaux   7 months ago

          Rush makes up it.

          1. Its_Not_Inevitable   7 months ago

            Word.

        5. Its_Not_Inevitable   7 months ago

          They still haven’t fully apologized for Bryan Adams yet, have they?

          Ow. That cuts like a knife.

        6. EISTAU Gree-Vance   7 months ago

          “Now, now, Canada has apologized for Bryan Adams many times, that’s not what this is aboot.
          …… and you guys are dicks!”

      2. Eeyore   7 months ago

        Just don't allow foreign performers special exceptions to work in the USA. People should be listening to American made music.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

          You mean from places like XERF or CKLW?

          1. Eeyore   7 months ago

            Or Canada 🙂

          2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   7 months ago

            Used to listen to CKLW in Michigan as a kid. Dick Purtan?

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 months ago

      A Trudeau-specific tariff?

      Shoe polish and foreign traditional garb.

  9. Chumby   7 months ago

    Craptor

    The Epoch Times | F-35’s Cooling Crisis: Design Flaws Fuel $2 Trillion Dilemma for Pentagon | November 22, 2024:

    "The Pentagon is facing a difficult decision regarding the F-35’s chronic, crippling problems with overheating brought on by its insufficient cooling capacity.

    Should the U.S. taxpayers pay for a costly upgrade to the stealth fighter’s cooling that will handle its immediate needs, or should U.S. taxpayers pay for a far more expensive upgrade that theoretically could handle increased future cooling needs?

    - The Epoch Times

    At least the doors aren‘t bloeing off. A lightning rod issue for some.

  10. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

    Seems to me like the VP could have stayed on the job for a few more weeks, then had all the time in the world to vacation with her family...

    "White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre was asked whether President Biden thinks it’s “appropriate” that his vice president is vacationing in Hawaii as hundreds of DNC staffers were let go without severance."

    MS. JEAN-PIERRE: The vice president has taken time off to go spend time with her family. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. I think she deserves some time to be with her family and to have some downtime. She has worked very hard over — for the last four years, and her taking a couple of days to be with her family, good for her. Good for her.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

      She's got a lot of franzia to get through

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

      But what will happen to our National Diversity Muppet?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

        I’m not so sure the people who used her really give a shit.

      2. MK Ultra   7 months ago

        MSNBC's final hire before the sale?

      3. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 months ago

        Be replaced a newer younger model? Now with 50% less word salad.

    3. A Thinking Mind   7 months ago

      Ah yes, doing all the very important work that Vice Presidents are known for doing.

      It’s not so much that she’s been on vacation for a week, as much as being on vacation for the past four years.

  11. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 months ago

    Special Counsel Jack Smith dropped the charges and then ran into the national cathedral yelling sanctuary. He's being to shipped to the Vatican, to take on the position most fitting his knowledge and expertise; Jizz Mop Technician.

    1. MK Ultra   7 months ago

      National Shrine. The Cathedral runs an Episcopalian show.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 months ago

        Yes your correct just figured it made for a better location for my fictitious story. If Gibson can remove the bridge in the scene depicting the Battle of Stirling Bridge, then a little Christianity swap won't hurt box office sales.

        1. MK Ultra   7 months ago

          Proper. The stained glass (especially the Rose and Space windows) make for good visuals. I think I remember there being a kerfuffle over "The Devil's Advocate" film turning the Creation sculpture at the main entrance into an orgy or something similar.

  12. sarcasmic   7 months ago

    Every tariff's sacred,
    every tariff's great
    If a tariff's wasted,
    Trump gets quite irate...

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

      Keep your day job.

      1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

        He sucks at that too.

        1. Chumby   7 months ago

          He falls asleep often while manning the tollbooth?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

            Can’t even do that anymore. The Maine Turnpike is all electronic tolling now.

            1. Chumby   7 months ago

              There are still cash-only lanes (in addition ti the EZ Pass lanes).

      2. CountmontyC   7 months ago

        He has a job?

    2. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      Poor sarc. Taking the loss very hard.

    3. Commenter_XY   7 months ago

      Not bad, sarcasmic. You're coming along. You aren't at Chumby level, but you have promise.

    4. Chumby   7 months ago

      Psarc the Herald

      Psarc the herald, angels sing,
      Gaslight for the current thing.

      Peace on Earth and mercy mild,
      Your shitposts are bigly piled.

      So drunk that he cannot rise,
      So shit-faced there’s no disguise.

      With a forty in each hand,
      Blacked all day is his plan.

      Psarc the herald angels sing,
      Gaslight for the current thing.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

        A double fisted +1, Chumby! 😀

  13. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

    https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-houston-removes-25-illegally-present-child-sex-offenders-us-past-month

    Among the 25 illegally present child sex offenders removed by ERO Houston in October were:

    A 37-year-old twice-deported Mexican national removed Oct. 16 who is a documented Paisas gang member with prior criminal convictions for committing lewd acts against a child under the age of 14 and illegal re-entry.
    A 50-year-old three-time deported Mexican national removed Oct. 17 with convictions for sexual indecency with a child, cocaine trafficking, DWI (twice), assault, unlawful carrying a weapon, and illegal re-entry.
    A 44-year-old Mexican national removed Oct. 18 who is a documented Colonia Durango gang member with prior criminal convictions for aggravated sexual assault of a minor, sexual indecency with a child, and larceny (twice).
    A 37-year-old twice-deported Mexican national removed Oct. 16 with convictions for sexual indecency with a child and sexual assault of a child.
    A 27-year-old Salvadoran national removed Oct. 2 with convictions for sexual assault of a child, resisting arrest, and providing false information to law enforcement.
    A 58-year-old twice-deported Salvadoran national removed Oct. 2 with convictions for aggravated sexual assault of a child and illegal reentry.
    A 33-year-old twice-deported Ecuadorian national removed Oct. 22 with convictions for unlawful surveillance / installing an imaging device for sexual arousal in a manner to injure a child under the age of 17, and illegal reentry.
    A 20-year-old Guatemalan national removed Oct. 28 with convictions for sexual indecency with a child under the age of 14.
    A 30-year-old twice-deported Guatemalan national removed Oct. 28 with convictions for incest with a minor under the age of 13 and illegal reentry.
    A 52-year-old twice-deported Salvadoran national removed Oct. 23 with convictions for indecent liberties with a child, DWI, assault of a government employee, assault, and illegal reentry.

    1. Chumby   7 months ago

      Doctors, engineers, entrepreneurs!

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

      Jeffy and Turd have a sad.

    3. R Mac   7 months ago

      Yeah, but how many of them run a food truck?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

        Does a white van with candy inside count as a food truck?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

          Ask Jeffy.

    4. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

      You can't deport them for being criminals since Americans commit crimes! - jeffsarcmike

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

        How about we deport Americans who commit crimes?

      2. Chumby   7 months ago

        It would be cruel and unusual punishment to send them back to their home country, a place that allows child sex offenders such as them to escape and illegally enter the US. Psssshhhaaaawwwww!

    5. Ghatanathoah   7 months ago

      And because it is 25 people out of roughly 11 million, that means precisely nothing.

      1. Jefferson Paul   7 months ago

        Because we all know, that list was exhaustive. The other 10,999,975 are all adverse to crime.

        1. DesigNate   7 months ago

          Hey, at least he admitted they’ve let in the population equivalent of 6 of the top 10 largest cities in the US, combined. Usually they deny that it’s that big a problem.

  14. sarcasmic   7 months ago

    “If you don’t do what I say then I’m going to punish American consumers by raising taxes on them! I swear I’ll do it! I’m going to cause more inflation if you don’t do what I say! I really mean it! And my defenders are so stupid that they will rationalize it! Some are so unintelligent that they think you will pay the taxes! They’re dumb as hell! So you better do what I say!”

    1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      The proper term is “garbage”.

      1. Ghatanathoah   7 months ago

        I think an even better term is "wimps," or "weaklings." Trump and his supporters call their opponents and targets all kinds of insulting things. When Biden did the same thing back to them, they threw a hissy fit like little toddlers. They can dish it out, but can't take it. They are sad, weak, pathetic little people.

    2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

      This is what, your third trolling attempt over tariffs this morning, each lamer than the last.

      If I scroll down further am I going to find more?

      1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

        Just pointing out how Trump defenders like yourself will lie, rationalize, attack, or just switch off their brains (assuming there's something to switch off) to justify anything that he does.

        1. Commenter_XY   7 months ago

          sarcasmic, how do you explain the fact that consumer prices did not rise appreciably under POTUS Trump when he applied tariffs in 2017-19?

          That is the objective data. How do you explain the phenomena?

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

            He can't.

            He also wont acknowledge regulatory fixes and energy expansion would lower prices. He is incapable of logical construction or being informed. He has his bumper sticker beliefs and no facts will ruin it.

          2. sarcasmic   7 months ago

            Economists call it dispersed costs and concentrated benefits. Politicians and their defenders love dispersed costs because they’re difficult to measure, so they can claim that they don’t exist. Besides that, sellers raise prices in anticipation of policies which makes the increases even more difficult to measure, and allows politicians and their defenders to claim that prices didn’t rise after the policies go into place.

            You can defend tariffs and claim that they don’t raise prices, but when you do that you’re just defending politicians. Fact is that businesses aren’t going to just eat higher costs by cutting CEO salaries or something. That’s the same nonsense progressives claim when they defend raising taxes on corporations. Costs like taxes always get passed along to consumers. Always. Just because it’s difficult to measure doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

            I do find it interesting that Trump defenders will attack progressives for raising corporate taxes by saying corporations don't pay taxes, that they pass the costs onto the consumers. But as soon as Trump raises taxes they act like progressives and claim the costs won't be passed to consumers.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

              You dodged XY’s question completely. Again, why didn’t the tariffs in 2017-19 cause inflation, but we saw massive inflation after a shitload of money was printed in 2021?

            2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

              Yeah, that isn't what Commenter_XY asked.

            3. TrickyVic (old school)   7 months ago

              You do realize that the Biden China tariffs I post about took effect this year so will be visible in cost next year. But you will probably blame that on Trump.

              Btw, I'm not defending anyone's tariffs.

              https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/05/14/fact-sheet-president-biden-takes-action-to-protect-american-workers-and-businesses-from-chinas-unfair-trade-practices/

              1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

                If Trump defenders had any integrity at all they'd praise that action by Biden. But they don't. So they won't.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

                  Did you break a mirror when you typed that?

                  1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

                    Sarc likes to tell people what they are thinking.

                  2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

                    Self-awareness is not a Sarcasmic superpower.

            4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   7 months ago

              Meh. They need us more than we need them. We have leverage. Might as well use it.

            5. Jefferson Paul   7 months ago

              Economists call it dispersed costs and concentrated benefits

              Wouldn't this apply to illegal immigration?

          3. Ghatanathoah   7 months ago

            sarcasmic doesn't need to explain it, because it isn't true. After Trump put a tariff on washing machines in 2018, the price of washing machines inflated by 6%. The same thing happened with his steel and aluminum tariffs, the price of those things went up. Prices didn't go up across the board because Trump didn't impose tariffs across the board last time around, he imposed targeted tariffs on specific industries. If he does this time, they will.

        2. R Mac   7 months ago

          Is that what you think you’re doing?

          1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

            Three times the same shit in the same thread, but he swears he's not trolling.

    3. DesigNate   7 months ago

      It’s like you’ve never heard of a strongarm negotiation…

      Of course the counter to that would be Mexico and Canada telling him that directly violates the trade agreement, but that requires them not folding to the tactic.

  15. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has arrested another illegal immigrant charged with child sex offenses in Boston, just as the Massachusetts governor has said she won't assist in a mass deportation operation by the incoming Trump administration.

    ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) Boston announced this month that they had apprehended a Colombian illegal immigrant on Oct. 29. He had been arrested by the Boston Police Department on charges of enticing a child under 16, distribution of obscene matter, and lascivious posing and exhibiting a child in the nude.

    ICE had lodged a detainer — a request that an illegal immigrant be detained until ICE can take them into custody — but the detainer was not honored by local authorities and he was released from custody. The man, Mateo Hincapie Cardona, had been encountered in April by Border Patrol in Arizona and released on his own recognizance.

    It’s one of a number of incidents whereby ICE’s Boston unit have had to go after illegal immigrants released from local custody in the city and surrounding areas. "Sanctuary" jurisdictions typically do not honor ICE detainers, arguing that doing so encourages illegal immigrants to come forward and work with police if they are victims or witnesses to crimes. Massachusets is not a sanctuary state as it does not have a sanctuary law on the books, but a number of its cities — including Boston — are sanctuary cities.

    In September, ICE announced it had arrested an illegal Salvadoran immigrant who was charged with several sex crimes against a child. He was one of a number of "egregious" illegal immigrant sex offenders caught in an operation in Nantucket.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-nabs-another-illegal-immigrant-in-mass-charged-with-child-sex-crime-as-gov-snubs-trump-deportations/ar-AA1tYh2f

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

      I hope the Blue Sanctuary cities and states double down on insane progressive policies, as long as we can quarantine those areas for at least 50 years. Lots of walls to build.

  16. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

    U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Boston announced the arrests of three illegal immigrants on Wednesday, including two illegal immigrants charged with child rape in Massachusetts and one illegal immigrant convicted of child rape in Brazil who fled to the United States in 2022.

    According to a Wednesday press release, 21-year-old Mynor Stiven De Paz-Munoz, an illegal immigrant from Guatemala, was arrested on charges of forcible child rape; however, he was released in Massachusetts by law enforcement officials who ignored an ICE detainer request.

    ICE noted that De Paz-Munoz entered the United States illegally in September of 2020 and was arrested by Great Barrington police officials in February of 2024 for rape of a child, rape of a child by force, and battery and indecent assault on an individual over 14 years old.

    In another press release, ICE announced that 42-year-old Billy Erney Buitrago-Bustos, an illegal immigrant from Colombia, was arrested by Great Barrington police in October on charges of raping a child by force, aggravated rape against a minor, and statutory rape. While Buitrago-Gusto was initially admitted into the United States by U.S. Customs and Border Protection at the John F. Kennedy International Airport, ICE said the suspect “failed to depart under the terms of his visa.”

    Highlighting the accusations against Buitrago-Bustos, Hyde said, “Billy Erney Buitrago-Bustos stands accused of the most heinous and reprehensible of crimes.”

    ICE also announced on Wednesday that 41-year-old Alexandre Romao De Oliveira, who was convicted of child rape in Brazil, was arrested by ICE Boston on Monday in Methuen, Massachusetts. According to ICE, De Oliveira was convicted of child rape in Brazil in February of 2022 and was sentenced to 14 years in prison; however, he fled the country and illegally entered the United States in April of 2022.

    Prior to his arrest on Monday, De Oliveira had been released into the United States and issued a notice to appear in court before an immigration review judge.

    Commenting on the illegal immigrant’s recent arrest, Hyde said, “Alexandre Romao De Oliveira is a convicted child rapist who fled his home country to evade justice.”

    https://americanmilitarynews.com/2024/11/3-illegal-immigrants-arrested-for-child-rape/

    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

      "a convicted child rapist who fled his home country to evade justice.”

      Poor Jeff.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

        I am sure that home country has much more advanced ethics about prisons that let convicts declare their own gender.

  17. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

    The number of illegal immigrants that ICE Boston agents arrested during a multi-day operation on Nantucket earlier this month has grown to five, with details of an apprehended MS-13 gang member the latest to come out.

    Enforcement and Removal Operations Boston arrested 30-year-old Salvadoran Angel Deras-Mejia on Sept. 12, charging the documented gang member with disorderly conduct and two counts of assault and battery on a household member.

    The arrest came a day after a 41-year-old Guatemalan noncitizen was charged with a sex crime against a Nantucket resident and two days after ICE apprehended three other illegal immigrants on the island.

    Deras-Mejia is said to have unlawfully entered the country “on an unknown date, at an unknown location, without being inspected, admitted or paroled by a U.S. immigration official,” ICE said in a Wednesday release.

    Nantucket police arrested Deras-Mejia, of the MS-13 gang, on Aug. 26, and officers with ERO arrested him on Sept. 12. He remains in custody.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/number-of-illegal-immigrants-arrested-on-nantucket-grows-appalling-and-shameful/ar-AA1rhfxd

    1. Lester75   7 months ago

      Yep. There is no state that won't refer violent criminals to ICE. Why is this notable? Even the most liberal states will cooperate with ICE when it comes to people who have warrants on them.

      1. Jefferson Paul   7 months ago

        Did you not read the two earlier posts by Medulla Oblongata showing Boston Police not honoring ICE detainer requests for child predators?

      2. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

        Although the county isn't officially designated a "sanctuary" county, in practice, Fairfax has essentially established itself as one among the illegal alien population. The county has a track record of willfully defying civil U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detainers, actively obstructing federal immigration enforcement, and putting deportable criminals back out on the streets, giving them the chance to commit more crimes in the community and beyond.

        Like a lot of Democrat-led suburbs surrounding the nation's capital, Fairfax County has enacted several "sanctuary" policies shielding illegal aliens from possible deportation and directing personnel not to cooperate with federal immigration enforcement.

        In 2018, the Fairfax County Sheriff's Office terminated its Intergovernmental Service Agreement (IGSA) with ICE. Accordingly, "deputies do not participate in, nor provide assistance to, ICE activities out in the community." The department now no longer honors any of ICE's administrative detention requests to hold subjects past their release dates (until federal authorities arrive and can assume custody) unless ICE obtains a court-ordered criminal detainer.

        An Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) investigation found that between May 2018 and May 2020, Fairfax County refused to honor more than 900 ICE detainment requests. IRLI asked the Fairfax County Sheriff's Office how many of these warrants fit its definition of a "lawfully issued criminal detainer." To which, the department reportedly replied that only 14 warrants were issued during this two-year period, leaving hundreds effectively denied.

        https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2024/11/25/denis-humberto-deep-dive-n2648109

  18. Quicktown Brix   7 months ago

    “Tariffs can’t be inflationary because if the price of one thing goes up—unless you give people more money—then they have less money to spend on the other thing, so there is no inflation,” Bessent told Larry Kudlow.

    Fuck you, Bessent. This is exactly the same Bidenomics sleight of hand bullshit (But really the indicators of the economy show it is doing fine. It’s weird you think you can’t afford groceries.) that voters just rejected.

    Impeach Trump! (too soon?)

    1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      It depends on what your definition of “is” is.

      1. Quicktown Brix   7 months ago

        How would Trump have handled that?

        FAKE NEWS!!!! I’d never have a relationship with her. I mean, she’s FAT. She looks like a female version of Rosie O’Donnell. I like big and fake up top with a tiny ass like a housecat. You know, the Stormy type. I was just shoving the most TREMENDOUS…you wouldn’t believe the smooth draw on these…cuban cigars up her pu…OBJECTION, your honor.

        1. Dillinger   7 months ago

          clearly you've never lived in New Jersey.

          1. Quicktown Brix   7 months ago

            Guilty as charged (thankfully). What was the tell?

            1. Dillinger   7 months ago

              you didn't buy the objection.

    2. DesigNate   7 months ago

      But if you look at inflation as being a monetary thing, not just an increase in prices, he’s not wrong?

      1. Quicktown Brix   7 months ago

        No. He's not wrong, and with his masterful autistic technically correct, but tone deaf explanation, he just might be a libertarian.

        1. DesigNate   7 months ago

          Hey, no fair picking on us autistic “technically correct is the best correct” libertarians.

          You’ve made an enemy for life!

          1. Quicktown Brix   7 months ago

            No worries. I hate me too!

  19. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

    WTF is going on in the UK? Have they completely and utterly lost their minds?

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/11/25/trans-ideology-is-stripping-women-of-their-dignity/

    Last week, the Telegraph reported that a policeman who identifies as a woman could be allowed to carry out strip searches and intimate searches on women, so long as he has a gender-recognition certificate. A female suspect could be asked to remove her clothes and be given a rigorous physical examination by an officer who is, to all intents and purposes, a biological male.

    It is worth noting that, in the UK, a gender-recognition certificate is available to any adult who has been diagnosed with gender dysphoria and who has been presenting as their new gender for at least two years. There is no requirement to have received any kind of hormone treatment or reassignment surgery.

    BTP could actually face legal action over this new guidance, on the grounds that it potentially breaches women’s human rights, under which women have the right to only be searched by someone of the same sex. On Sunday, Maya Forstater, chief executive of Sex Matters, wrote a pre-action letter to BTP chief constable Lucy D’Orsi. In her letter, Forstater called the guidance ‘state-sponsored sex discrimination and sexual abuse’ and highlighted the grim possibility that some officers might use this as an excuse to abuse women.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

      Idiots in the UK seem to be begging for subjugation by nanny state government…and bringing back slavery.

      https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/11/26/labours-respect-orders-are-a-boon-for-curtain-twitchers/

      On Friday, UK home secretary Yvette Cooper announced tough new ‘respect orders’. She said these will allow police to ‘crack down on repeated anti-social behaviour’ and ‘keep communities safe’. Breaching these orders will be a criminal offence, carrying a prison sentence of up to two years. Courts will also be able to issue unlimited fines or force offenders to carry out unpaid work.

      At this stage, it’s not quite clear how councils and police will use these new powers. However, the way in which they have been using the most recent set of anti-social-behaviour powers, launched with such fanfare a decade ago, gives us a good idea.

      Take one of these powers, the community-protection notice (CPN), which replaced the anti-social behavioural order (ASBO) in 2014. In a new Manifesto Club report, we analysed the CPN data from 2023. We found that the authorities used their powers to tackle such sources of ‘public disorder’ as people camping in Folkestone, a loud TV in Islington, and beehives in Thanet. Officials also issued orders targeted at swearing in Brighton, a noisy pub-quiz night in East Cambridgeshire, messy gardens in Durham, crowing cockerels in East Devon and rough sleeping in Southend.

      The CPN makes the ASBO look like a paragon of due process. To impose an ASBO on an individual, the authorities had to go through a court, and the defendant was provided with legal aid and time to plead his or her case. A CPN, however, can just be filled out by a police officer or a council warden on your doorstep.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

        I’m not so sure the UK will make it to the next general election. We might see English Civil War 2.0 well before anything here.

      2. Its_Not_Inevitable   7 months ago

        Is it any wonder the founders fought a Revolution? And thank God (or who/whatever) for the Bill of Rights.

    2. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      “gender-recognition certificate”

      LOL

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

        Well, not from the US Supreme Court.

      2. Kungpowderfinger   7 months ago

        Any government that issues a “gender-recognition certificate” meets the definition of dystopian.

        Western culture has been beyond parody for some years, now it seems we’re beyond science fiction as well.

      3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   7 months ago

        “….rough sleeping….”?

        Lol.

    3. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

      "WTF is going on in the UK? Have they completely and utterly lost their minds?"

      If the US wasn't federal you know Biden would be already doing it. Also, I recall California doing something similar.

    4. Chumby   7 months ago

      Tranny cops attempting to be cheeky.

      1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

        It’s all about the feelings.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

        A different meaning for "bummed out".

    5. I, Woodchipper   7 months ago

      WTF is going on in the UK? Have they completely and utterly lost their minds?

      The short answer is yes, and it's coming to america soon if things dont change.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   7 months ago

        This is why I've been saying that we seriously need to start re-evaluating our alliance with these people--not just the UK, but whole British Commonwealth. They're basically just neo-marxist theocracies at this point, and it's not going to be to our long-term cultural benefit to continue being tied to them as they slide further into Orwellian dystopia.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

          The problem, I think, is inherent in the Westminster system to begin with. There’s no real checks or balances anymore. At one time, the House of Lords or Senate and the monarchy were a balance to any excesses in Commons. As Lords/Senate and the monarchy have been made more irrelevant by Commons, there’s no one to tell the PM and his party “no”. That’s one of the reasons the Framers did what they did with the Constitution, creating a system of checks and balances that was harder to undo than in the Westminster system. Now, without the checks, Starmer and Trudeau can run roughshod over the opposition in a way that would make the Democrats jealous.

    6. mad.casual   7 months ago

      a rigorous physical examination

      So, if I were to go on a Taken-style shooting spree to correct this issue, I would want to be mad. Cold and calculated, executing an unerringly determined error correction motivated by righteous anger. But I'll be damned if subtle British satire and innuendo wouldn't have me laughing to myself as I murder my way through the lot of them.

  20. Ra's al Gore   7 months ago

    https://x.com/eScarry/status/1860007992168710370

    Liberals straight up admitting in the New York Times that their lawfare campaign was purely political. Truly awe inspiring

    1. Ra's al Gore   7 months ago

      Funny thing is that if dumbshit democrats had filed the charges in 2021 instead of waiting for max election impact, which turned out to be counterproductive, they could have gotten their prison term.

      Suck it, assholes.

      https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1861112739394908547

      Jack Smith just filed a motion to dismiss his bogus charges against President Trump.

      Total Democrat lawfare fail.

      1. Commenter_XY   7 months ago

        Now the shoe is on the other foot. They won't like it.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

          Speaking of shoes and other feet...

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kyrsten-sinema-responds-to-democrats-admitting-filibuster-will-help-them-stop-trump-agenda-schadenfreude/ar-AA1uM63F

          Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, I-Ariz., on Monday appeared to poke fun at Senate Democrats for coming out in support of the filibuster after her former party had called for it to be abolished over the past four years to push through Democratic agenda items.

          Sinema, who left the Democratic Party nearly two years ago, responded on the social media platform X to a report by the Washington Examiner citing Democratic senators who now say they support the Senate filibuster to block President-elect Trump's agenda in his second administration.

          "Please, please, please stop what you’re doing and read these quotes," Sinema said.

          "Filing under: schadenfreude," she continued.

          Earlier this month, Sinama responded to Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., who said she would not support eliminating the filibuster now that the GOP will control the House, Senate and White House, but would have supported it if Democrats had the trifecta.

          "You don't say?" Sinema wrote on X.

    2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

      that their lawfare campaign was purely political

      Because of course it was and straight out of Stalin's Soviet Union. A massive actual attack on democracy and Reason played along. That's why the board and the current crop of writers largely need to be fired.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

        Nobody is above the law! Except democrats and federal workers! - sarc.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   7 months ago

        Well Reason played the Trump card because Orange Man sooooooooo bad.

      3. Chumby   7 months ago

        If the next Webathon has a dunking booth, it could be popular with libertarians.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

          Instead of throwing the baseball at the bullseye, can I just aim at their faces?

        2. mad.casual   7 months ago

          I'll pay double if I don't have to use the baseballs/softballs. Triple if I can tell ENB "It's not *quite* a murder, it's just a business transaction!" while I'm doing it.

  21. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

    Progressives...such peaceful and tolerant folks...

    --------

    Trump's Border Czar Reveals He's Getting Death Threats

    “This administration has turned this world upside down,” the former acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement told Fox News’ Mark Levin. “Now I am being attacked, right, I've got death threats, my family’s not even living in my home right now.

    “So all of a sudden, the guys who want to enforce the law are the bad guys, the guys who break the law are the victims,” he continued.

    He urged every Democrat leader who has vowed to resist Trump’s mass deportation plan to listen to the Laken Riley tape.

    “Listen to the 17 minutes of this girl suffering, fighting for her life, fighting for her breath. This little girl didn't want to die, she fought like hell. Listen to that tape. That happens every day across this country at the hands of an illegal alien,” Homan added.

  22. Ra's al Gore   7 months ago

    They hate you and they want you dead.

    https://x.com/TPC4USA/status/1860832917288591654

    The story continues to get worse. Both
    @NCNationalGuard
    and Title 10 federal forces have been pulled from #WNC, compared to the 15,000+ troops deployed in Houston, New Orleans, Haiti, and Puerto Rico. A
    @fema
    spokesman told me that WNC is "the worst disaster I've ever seen, times 10." At its peak, the largest military presence in WNC was only 3,150 troops. Now, there are none—just in time for Thanksgiving and the winter's cold. Both
    @NC_Governor
    and
    @POTUS
    need to answer for this.

    And yes,
    @NCNationalGuard
    's pinned X post says, "this mission is no fail, and we’ll continue to work around the clock until it’s complete." However, they are not there and are currently posting old photos as if their operations are current. (Go there, see for yourself. They've posted photos just today that show full green and colorful leaf foliage on trees. Those leaves are now brown or fallen.)

    1. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

      Government says "Get back in your tents!"

      Groups of Amish carpenters have traveled to North Carolina, where they are sawing downed trees into planks--by hand--and building "tiny homes", basically sheds that provide better living spaces especially in the cold and rain than the tents many people are sleeping in.

      NC governments says "Not so fast my friend." No one is permitted to occupy any structure that does not pass NC code, even temporarily.

      https://www.mitchellcountync.gov/helene-response-resources/Helene Response Resources - Mitchell County, North Carolina

      1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

        Do tents pass code inspections?

      2. I, Woodchipper   7 months ago

        Without government, who would force you to sleep in a tent in the rain after a natural disaster destroyed your home?

      3. DesigNate   7 months ago

        I wouldn’t blame North Carolinians if they got a little insurrectiony.

        *this is not a call for insurrection you stupid alphabet fucks.

  23. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

    Serial Sex Offender Who Was Repeatedly Released Went on to Assault a Woman in This 'Sanctuary' County

    Authorities arrested 31-year-old Denis Humberto Navarette-Romero, an illegal immigrant from Honduras, on charges of abduction with intent to defile and rape for sexually assaulting a woman at a public park in Fairfax County, Virginia.

    "I am incredibly saddened and outraged that a crime like this could happen here in the town of Herndon," the city's police chief, Maggie DeBoard, said at a Tuesday press conference addressing Navarette-Romero's arrest. "This is the only stranger rape we have had in the town in my more than 12 years as chief of police."

    DeBoard emphasized, "What is disturbing is the number of times this man has been arrested and released. He has continued to offend and his behavior has escalated to a rape in a very public area in our town."

    Navarette-Romero has a history of sexual assaults in the area stretching back to at least 2022, including offenses in Herndon prior to Monday night's rape.

    The alleged rapist previously choked a Herndon police officer in June 2022 when the cop was responding to a groping incident.

    Although the Herndon Police Department (HPD) charged Navarette-Romero with felony assault of an officer, Fairfax County Commonwealth's Attorney Steve Descano, a Democrat, downgraded the charge to simple assault, a misdemeanor.

    "I mean [Navarette-Romero] literally tried to get his hands around our officer's neck trying to choke him so we don't understand that one," DeBoard told FOX 5 DC.

    "It's frustrating because I tell the community you should feel safe here, and I do believe they are safe here, I truly do, but when you have cases like this, I look at this and see if some part of the system..." the police chief said. "If it was all working together, if there was a way to make it work, this would never have happened."

    In a statement shared with FOX 5 DC, Descano didn't explain his decision to downgrade the charges but noted that Navarette-Romero pled guilty to two counts of assault and battery plus one count of resisting arrest. "He served jail time as a result of these convictions," Descano said. Navarette-Romero was later released.

    Last month, Navarette-Romero was once again arrested in Herndon on Oct. 19, this time for indecent exposure, and sentenced to 50 days behind bars. However, he reportedly only spent half of that 50-day sentence in jail. Navarette-Romero was released 25 days early on Nov. 14, thanks to Virginia's "good behavior" law, according to FOX 5 DC. Just four days after he was freed, on Nov. 18, Romeo allegedly went on to rape the woman in Herndon.

    1. Dillinger   7 months ago

      not a fan of people behind bars but rapists deserve entirely longer sentences.

  24. Ra's al Gore   7 months ago

    EXPERTS!!!

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03704-8

    12 November 2024
    Worryingly high prevalence of retraction among top-cited researchers
    By Shaoxiong Brian Xu & Guangwei Hu
    Twitter Facebook Email
    The latest ‘Stanford List’ of the world’s top 2% most-cited researchers, published in September, commendably includes retraction data for the first time. Although some retractions among elite researchers are to be expected, their prevalence is surprising and concerning. Of 217,097 scientists who are top on the basis of career-long citation impact, 7,083 (3.3%) are authors of retracted papers, as are 8,747 (3.9%) of 223,152 researchers who had the highest citation impact in 2023 (J. P. A. Ioannidis et al. Preprint at bioRxiv https://doi.org/nqtp; 2024).

    1. Ra's al Gore   7 months ago

      Stanford expert on 'lying and technology' accused of lying about technology
      https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/stanford-professor-lying-and-technology-19937258.php

      In an bizarre twist, a Stanford University expert who studies misinformation appears to have created some of his own — while under oath.

      On Nov. 1, Jeff Hancock, a well-known and oft-cited researcher who leads the Bay Area school’s Social Media Lab, filed an expert declaration in a Minnesota court case over the state’s new ban on political deepfakes. Republicans have sued to block the ban, arguing it’s an unconstitutional limit on free speech. Hancock defended the law in his declaration, explaining how artificial intelligence makes it easier to fabricate videos and discussed deepfakes’ psychological impacts. But he seems to have made an ironic mistake.

      Hancock cited 15 references in his declaration, mostly research papers related to political deepfakes and their impacts. Two of the 15 sources do not appear to exist. The journals he cites are real, as are some of the two citations’ authors, but journal archives show no sign of either paper. The actual journal pages referenced by Hancock have different articles. SFGATE was unable to find the cited papers on Google Scholar, either.

      1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

        Up next: Jokes and satire are illegal.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

          Looks like you've been enjoying The Onion lately.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

          They already effectively are in the UK.

  25. Commenter_XY   7 months ago

    Maybe Boehm can (try to) explain....why didn't the imposition of tariffs by Trump '45' raise consumer prices to any appreciable degree? Inflation was benign, despite these 'draconian' tariffs.

    Boehm has never even attempted to explain reality. Can he? Because I don't think he has the intellectual chops to explain it.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

      See my comment above. He is a sub human faggot hack.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

        Both reluctantly and strategically.

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

      Boehm received a bachelor's degree in history and communications from Fairfield University in 2009.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

        So he has a degree in repeating the dem narrative, got it

    3. Quicktown Brix   7 months ago

      Maybe Boehm can (try to) explain….why didn’t the imposition of tariffs by Trump ’45’ raise consumer prices to any appreciable degree?

      "Appreciable" is doing the heavy lifting for you. Prices did rise. The U.S. International Trade Commission’s 2023 report on the Trump-era tariffs...finds prices up for families buying consumer goods and also up for manufacturers, construction firms, and others buying metal.
      https://www.progressivepolicy.org/trade-fact-of-the-week-trump-era-tariffs-raised-prices-but-did-not-bring-manufacturing-back/

      Trump 45 tariffs were targeted and limited compared to what he proposed this time and also at a time when we weren't paying much attention to inflation.

      1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

        Your facts are leftist.

        1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

          Pop quiz, Sarckles. What is Quicktown Brix's comment about?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

            Sarc doesn’t know. All Sarc knows is that Jesse said something therefore Jesse must be wrong, regardless as Sarc has a terrible case of JDS.

            1. Chumby   7 months ago

              Shitposted from TDS -or- Shitposted with TDS?

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

                JDS and TDS. The former is JesseAZ Derangement Syndrome.

      2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

        Probably should have just linked to the report. Because what it shows in your link is them attributing all decreases after admitting the change in prices was very small. They did this for labor as well as manufacturing output.

        Basically the correlated the total decrease of both numbers, well within margin of measuring error, solely to tariffs.

        Do you think this is an honest analysis? Not sure you actually read what they wrote or you would have caught this.

        Likewise they seem to think there are only 2 steel markers, domestic and Chinese. Which makes their analysis even worse.

        At least fully read your own links. There obvious, very obvious, bad assumptions in that fact check.

        1. Quicktown Brix   7 months ago

          what it shows in your link is them attributing all decreases after admitting the change in prices was very small. They did this for labor as well as manufacturing output.

          Basically the correlated the total decrease of both numbers, well within margin of measuring error, solely to tariffs.

          Nice takedown of that straw man. Neither the discussion, nor my comment was about the decrease in labor or manufacturing. My only point was about price increases which you acknowledged. So, thanks.

          This is my point: These generally converge on a finding that the tariffs raised overall U.S. prices in a range of 0.3% to 0.5%, with the highest estimate a bit above 1.0%

          So go ahead and call that small. A tariff against only China on just metal raises all consumers goods by about 0.4%. Now extrapolate that out to tariffs on all nations on all goods.

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

            So you don’t know what a strawman is either. Got it.

            I literally addressed the arguments in your link which you apparently didn’t read.

            And then after not reading you attribute the full cost to tariffs despite other cost variances like energy and labor prices. Same blatant mistake your "fact checkers" make. No consideration of alternate explanations. Clip 2 paragraphs from a 100+ page report. Lol.

            Maybe read what you link first? Then understand what you linked so you don’t make the same mistake when someone criticizes what you link.

            1. Quicktown Brix   7 months ago

              So you don’t know what a strawman is either. Got it.

              I don't think you do. A strawman is when you make up an argument for your opponent, usually one that you can easily defeat, rather than addressing the actual argument. Say for example, someone is arguing prices increased and you ignore that and say no, your source says production and labor didn't increase beyond the margin of error.

              So go ahead and be condescending about it, but it's a bad look when you're the one that's wrong. Just learn to admit when you make a mistake. All you've accomplished here is proving Sarc correct.

          2. DesigNate   7 months ago

            I don’t see how they can attribute an across the board price increase to be just because of tariffs on Chinese metal. Like, the logic just doesn’t follow for me.

            Beyond that, 0.3 to 0.5 percent is not appreciable by most people’s definition.

            I’ll be interested to see if the Reps are able to extend the 2017 tax cuts and what the math will actually work out to with income taxes staying down while tariffs increase (if they actually do).

            1. Quicktown Brix   7 months ago

              I don’t see how they can attribute an across the board price increase to be just because of tariffs on Chinese metal. Like, the logic just doesn’t follow for me.

              Well it’s easy to see for things like cars or canned food that use steel and aluminum. But also any factory that needs to buy trucks, lifts shelves etc. are paying more for their infrastructure. On average, it adds up.

              I'll take tariffs over income tax too, but I'd prefer to extend the cuts without added tariffs.

              Beyond that, 0.3 to 0.5 percent is not appreciable by most people’s definition.

              Fair enough, but what did we gain and do we end up with a net + or -? And, what happens if those tariffs go global?

    4. Lester75   7 months ago

      Trump had get taxpayers to bail out farmers (mostly big ag, not small farmers) the last time he put tariffs in place.

      https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/donald-trump-coronavirus-farmer-bailouts-359932

      Expect more farm bailouts. Targeted to Trump supporters of course and especially his big ag donors.

  26. lwt1960   7 months ago

    The author suffers from the same static scoring model used by the "polictically neutral" CBO. People respond to incentives. If tariffs are implemented with the express intention of getting the other party to change behavior, the models have to consider scenarios all the way from no change to maximum change and seek to develop the most likely response. Ignoring this amounts to little more than scaremongering, which voters are as attuned to as they are inflation.

    Btw, I find the Quick Hits on Ozempic, Jack Smith and Spain a lot more interesting from the Libertarian perspective than one more bedwetting article over Trump's tariffs. He won. Get over it.

    1. shadydave   7 months ago

      It also ignores how Trump works. He fancies himself a "deal maker." This is his opening offer. My guess is that if Canada and Mexico meet a sufficient level of co-operation when it comes to illegal border crossings, the tariffs will go away.

      1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

        I doubt it. He’s a mercantilist and a protectionist who just likes tariffs in general because they raise the prices of imports. He’s been vocal about it since the 80s. If he gets the cooperation he says that he wants, I bet he’ll just move the goalposts so he can keep the tariffs in place.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

          Trump really broke you, didn’t he?

      2. DesigNate   7 months ago

        I don’t think they actually get implemented in the first place.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   7 months ago

      Trump successfully used the threat of tariffs in his first term to negotiate the remain in Mexico agreement and Zoolander Castro is already talking about tightening up the Canadian borders. Would Bohem prefer sanctions and military action?

  27. Moderation4ever   7 months ago

    Canada and Mexico are top trading partners of with the US. This will cost American taxpayers with no effect on trade. We need the products and the trade partners.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

      So you're saying they would be incentivized to help reduce illegal immigration into the US. Shockingly that's what the policy is in regards to.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

        Been saying recently we should put, say $20B, on the table in front of Mexico and say "For every illegal alien we catch crossing the southern US border with Mexico, we're deducting $20,000. And for every kilo of fentanyl we confiscate coming across the border is also $20,000 deducted, every kilo of cocaine is $10,000, and every kilo of marijuana is $5,000. You get whatever's left after 365 days, no further strings attached, cash money. Yes or no, right here, right now."

        1. DesigNate   7 months ago

          Still a better use of our tax dollars than the current policy.

    2. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      Will people continue to buy the same volume of products if the price is higher?

      1. Moderation4ever   7 months ago

        A lot of that depends on the importance of the item to them. You could have cases where they reduce consumption of American made products less valuable to them to cover the cost for imported goods they value more. Tariffs don't necessarily work the way they are expected.

  28. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   7 months ago

    "...Special Counsel Jack Smith filed motions on Monday to drop all charges against President-elect Donald Trump for his role in trying to overturn the 2020 election, as well as in the case about Trump possibly mishandling of classified documents..."

    Finally broke out of the "too local" catagory?

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   7 months ago

      The J6 protesters lawfare is still too local for Reason to cover. That will of course change with the coming avalanche of Sullum screeds when Trump starts issuing pardons.

  29. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   7 months ago

    Trump picked my pockets last night pre-flight
    Zero hour 9:00 a.m.
    And I’m gonna be broke
    As a bum by then
    I miss liberty so much I miss my life
    It’s lonely without Nancy Mace
    On such a worthless flight
    And I think it’s gonna be a long, long time
    ‘Til Tariff Man brings me ’round again to find
    I’m not the rich man they think I am at home
    Oh, no, no, no
    I’m not a MAGA man
    Tariff Man, burning up my cash up here alone

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

      -1/10

      1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

        Lemme try:

        Well the Pluggo left old Georgia
        He was looking for a kid to feel
        He was in a bind
        For a tight behind
        That he could force to wriggle and squeal
        When he came across this young boy
        On his tricycle, looking hot
        And the Pluggo jumped up on that little boy
        And said "Boy, let me tell you what"

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

          LOL!

        2. Chumby   7 months ago

          Pluggo plays his diddle hard.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

      Keep your day job, if you even have one, Bushpig.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   7 months ago

        Wrong place; mouse-powered Reason server jumped.

    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   7 months ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    4. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      Elections have consequences.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   7 months ago

        And turd lies.

    5. Chumby   7 months ago

      Where is your original account?

  30. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   7 months ago

    "Newsom Vows to Offer EV Rebates if Trump Cuts $7,500 Federal Tax Credit"
    [...]
    "California plans to offer rebates for electric vehicles if President-elect Donald Trump eliminates a $7,500 federal tax credit for the cars, but Tesla may be excluded from the state’s program.
    ...
    The governor’s office said cars made by Tesla, the world’s most valuable automaker, and potentially other carmakers may not be eligible for the rebate program, in an effort to encourage market competition..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/california-s-newsom-vows-to-offer-ev-rebates-if-trump-cuts-7-500-federal-tax-credit/ar-AA1uIXaN?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    First, grease-ball is running for POTUS in '28, and the simpleton cannot read the market (the public voice) well enough to understand that EVs are rapidly becoming as popular as a turd in the punchbowl?
    And then we're to believe that excluding one mfgr is (1) legal and (2) to foster competition as opposed to grease-ball's obvious dislike of Musk?
    The man is as stupid as Biden and hasn't the excuse of dementia to gain some sympathy.

    1. mad.casual   7 months ago

      Newsom Vows to Offer EV Rebates if Trump Cuts $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

      So, presumably, this tax credit would only extend to 2030 when all cars are mandatory EV, right?

      First, grease-ball is running for POTUS in ’28, and the simpleton cannot read the market

      Or a science or management textbook. [Fingers crossed] Newsom does this. Rolling brownouts and burning forests with people with their EVs lined up around charging stations will be great optics for the campaign in 2028. The state of CA reducing itself to ash, conservative Latinos, spitting on the remains of the Progressive white settlers as their own Reconquista from Progressivism *and* Mexico, would be about as monumentally epic as Nov. 5, 2024.

  31. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   7 months ago

    “Federal judge rejects anti-trans lawsuit against San Jose State volleyball, Mountain West conference”
    […]
    “A federal judge in Colorado rejected an eleventh-hour lawsuit to block San Jose State’s participation in this week’s Mountain West Conference volleyball tournament because of allegations that SJSU has a transgender woman on their roster.
    The San Jose State women’s volleyball player at the center of the controversy, Blaire Fleming, has never publicly stated anything on their gender identity publicly…”
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/federal-judge-rejects-anti-trans-lawsuit-against-san-jose-state-volleyball-mountain-west-conference/ar-AA1uKhUi?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    Who is “they” and do you even English?

  32. I, Woodchipper   7 months ago

    "On January 20, as one of my many first executive orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% tariff on ALL products coming into the United States," Trump posted Monday night on Truth Social.

    Seriously, how does the president have the power to do this unilaterally? The problem isn't so much that Trump wants to raise tariffs, the problem is that he CAN.

    1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      Because democrats did it first, so that makes it ok.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   7 months ago

      Seems like the only thing he's not allowed to do is cancel Biden's executive orders.

    3. sarcasmic   7 months ago

      Trump cannot raise tariffs across the board. That requires Congress. What he can do is take a country off of the most favored nation status list, or hike tariffs on specific goods in the name of national security. There is a process for both of those actions, and just because he tries doesn't mean he'll succeed. So whatever he does, it won't happen overnight.

  33. mad.casual   7 months ago

    Tariffs are not, thankfully, implemented via presidential social media post, and we're still nearly two months away from Trump being in a position to do anything more substantial.

    But student loan forgiveness, immigration amnesty, and military and financial support for enemies of NATO can and have been done with nothing more than a pen and a phone.

    Go fuck yourself, Boehm.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   7 months ago

      "...financial support for enemies of NATO..."

      How about "flirting with WWIII"?

      1. mad.casual   7 months ago

        ‘going nuclear’ on USMCA

        Nuclear trade war >> regular nuclear war. Especially if “nobody ever loses a trade war.” because people start losing regular nuclear wars milliseconds after detonation.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   7 months ago

      Agree with this. So far in the war only Ukraine has attacked nato allies. They bombed Poland, and blew up nirdstream 2. By all accounts the US should attack ukraine

      1. mad.casual   7 months ago

        At the very least, the US should be (should have been) leading NATO in saying “We don’t need more corrupt kleptocracies or anti-Western, (anti-)religious ethnostates, we’ve already got Turkey and Denmark. We recommend Ukraine hire a better negotiator than Joe Biden.”

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   7 months ago

          I wouldn't slag Denmark too much for this issue. They're the only European country that requires its Third World "refugees" to fully assimilate as Danes, rather than permit them to indulge in this stupid "diversity is our strength" anti-nationalist bullshit.

          1. mad.casual   7 months ago

            You know who else rigorously enforced a secular-nationalist ethnostate?

            In fairness, I just picked Denmark out of a Baltic/Nordic/European hat (and even Canada and parts of the US could come along for the ride). Point being, there's already lots and lots of anti-Western, anti-religious, nationalist, ethno-state NATO to love. Nobody needs to die or spend money for more of it.

    3. Eeyore   7 months ago

      And the ability to work being based on using a specific pharma product.

  34. sarcasmic   7 months ago

    Tariffs (tariffs), wanna feel my tariffs (wanna feel my tariffs)
    Tariffs (baby), such a thrill, my tariffs (such a thrill, my tariffs)
    Tariffs (yeh yeh), wanna touch my tariffs (wanna touch my tariffs)
    Tariffs (baby), it's too much, my tariffs (it's too much, my tariffs)
    Tariffs (yeh yeh), check it out, my tariffs (check it out, my tariffs)
    Tariffs (baby), don't you doubt, my tariffs (don't you doubt, my tariffs)
    Tariffs (yeh yeh), talking about my tariffs (talking about my tariffs)
    Tariffs (well), checking out my tariffs (listen here)
    Every man wants to be a tariff, tariff man
    To have the kind of tariffs always in demand
    Tariffs' in the mornings, go man go
    Tariffs on the imports, prices grow
    You can best believe me, he's a tariff man
    Glad he took you down with anyone you can
    Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
    Tariff, tariff man (tariff man, yeah)
    I gotta be a tariff man (I gotta be a tariff man)
    Tariff, tariff man (yeah)
    I gotta be a tariff (oowh)
    Tariff, tariff man (yeah)
    I gotta be a tariff man
    Tariff, tariff man (yeah, yeah)
    I gotta be a tariff...

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

      That’s just gay, Sarc.

    2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

      Troll attempt number 4. If Trump doesn't end up putting on more tariffs than Joe, Sarcasmic is going to be so upset.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

        Worry not for Sarc will find another outlet for his raging case of TDS. It’s going to be a ridiculous four years for him and those reading his idiotic screeds.

    3. R Mac   7 months ago

      Poor sarc.

    4. damikesc   7 months ago

      Mexico and Canada are already offering to toughen up their borders and Mexico says they will stop immigrant caravans.

      Looks like a win for Trump.

      1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

        Let me get this straight. Trump defenders insist that tariffs do not raise prices. They, like progressives defending corporate income taxes, claim that the companies just absorb the costs instead of passing them along to the consumer.

        Yet at the same time these Trump defenders insist that tariffs are a cudgel to be used against foreign countries.

        Seems contradictory to me. How can tariffs not raise prices at all and at the same time cause other countries to be afraid that people will stop buying their stuff?

        Looks to me like Trump defenders are lying, really fucking stupid, engaging in cognitive dissonance, or most likely all of the above.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

          How can tariffs not raise prices at all and at the same time cause other countries to be afraid that people will stop buying their stuff?

          Some of these countries live off their exports and solely their exports. A change in price of them means that someone else might be cheaper, be it another exporting country or internal production in their target country. Either way, they lose sales and income. Sometimes the threat can be enough to get them to shape up.

        2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

          Sarckles: "Let me get this straight"

          Narrator: But Sarc didn't try to get it straight.

          1. mad.casual   7 months ago

            I muted him months and months ago and, this was both needed and apropos then.

  35. Red Rocks White Privilege   7 months ago

    President Joe Biden wants to have Medicare and Medicaid cover the cost of new anti-obesity drugs,

    Oh goody, more money being put in the Medicare/Medicaid Services black hole that won't be covered by any additional revenues.

    The only way this possibly works is if it actually cuts back on the number of people getting heart disease and diabetes, which is the leading driver of a lot of the cost of our medical care. So it might save money on the back end, depending on whether those people end up not needing heroic medical treatments until they gracelessly expire. Treating fatties is fucking expensive.

    The issue is that these drugs have particular side effects of their own, and weren't meant to be "lifestyle" drugs the way Hollywood treats them.

    1. Homer Thompson   7 months ago

      this is just a giant middle finger to trump, rfk, and musk

    2. mamabug   7 months ago

      Honestly, this is one of the few things I don't have a problem with. If we are going to have federally covered health care, allowing it to cover treatments that impact two of the greatest predictors of increased costs - obesity and diabetes - is not a bad idea. As long as they restrict it to those who are clinically diagnosed as diabetic/pre-diabetic and truly obese it could help.

      Yes, yes, I know it isn't 'the best' treatment but I find a lot of the hand wringing over Ozempic to be just another form of virtue signaling.

      Speaking as a diabetic on Ozempic - it has drastically improved my biometric markers and it also works to stem cravings for certain foods that allow for better food choices. If we are going to spend money, I'd rather it be on obesity treatments for the poor than sex-changes for criminals.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   7 months ago

        I get that, but that drug was also specifically designed to help people like you--diabetes sufferers with particular conditions. It wasn't meant to be some trendy weight loss drug for Hollywood wierdos.

    3. middlefinger   7 months ago

      An anecdotal comment, within my immediate family two of my siblings were diagnosed with type 2 diabetes at roughly 55-60 years of age. Neither parent had diabetes, even in late age. Both siblings are of normal weight and eat a mostly well balanced healthful diet (they say they do). Sister in laws family- neither parent had diabetes, her three siblings all were diagnosed with type 2 at around 55-63 years of age. None of her siblings are overweight. It seems to be a modern day epidemic similar to autism and dementia in younger and younger populations. Recently read Colon Cancer was affecting 20-30 year old healthy athletic young adults? Something is going on, not sure it’s always obesity. It may be that Americans are more likely to be obese or overweight so that statistically it becomes an obesity epidemic. It’s just not true in my circles or literally every person that I know who is being diagnosed with type 2?

    4. Roberta   7 months ago

      Treating fatties is still cheaper than fattening treaties.

  36. Chumby   7 months ago

    Cuscold War

    China’s New Port in Peru: A Strategic Threat to US Security | November 23, 2024:

    "The new Chinese-controlled port in Peru is part of Chinese leader Xi Jinping’s strategy to outflank the United States by establishing a maritime and land corridor linking China to Latin America.

    As the Biden administration winds to a close, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is aggressively expanding its influence in South America. On Nov. 14, Xi Jinping and Peruvian President Dina Boluarte inaugurated a $3.6 billion port in Chancay, Peru, marking another major step in China’s economic foothold in the region.

    - Epoch Times via Qvinta Aetas

    Peru is about half the distance from the continental US as Ukraine is. No ocean in between.

  37. Dillinger   7 months ago

    >>President-elect Donald Trump says in no uncertain terms that he'll seek to raise taxes on imports immediately after taking the oath of office.

    tell the room you are terrible at poker before the cards are dealt.

    1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

      He can’t raise tariffs across the board without Congress. Hopefully there are enough Republicans in there who still care about free trade to block his efforts. He can’t fire Congressmen for disloyalty, as much as he and his defenders wish he could.

      1. Dillinger   7 months ago

        operative words were seek to raise not raise across the board ... haven't heard about firing congressmen until this moment.

        1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

          It’s ok to make up stuff if democrats did it first.

      2. damikesc   7 months ago

        There is no free trade globally anywhere.

        The only person who ever offered it was...Trump.

        All we have had and still have is government managed trade.

        1. sarcasmic   7 months ago

          Free trade means your own government doesn’t punish you the consumer for buying stuff from other countries. Unilateral free trade is still free trade, at least from the consumer’s point of view. It doesn’t have to be bilateral. Claiming that free trade must be bilateral just an excuse that politicians (encouraged by the morons who defend them) to engage in mercantilism and protectionism. Trump has advocated for tariffs since the 1980s. He does not support free trade. Never has. He’s a mercantilist and a protectionist through and through who has rejected all the economic thought that came out of and after the Enlightenment, and likewise for his defenders.

          As far as trade deals go, if it means more freedom for consumers then I’ll take it. It isn’t ideal or perfect, but it’s better than nothing.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

            Unilateral free trade is not free trade. It just means you accept whatever bullshit the other country is offering, be it their tariffs, product dumping, or their slave labor. Enough of that shit.

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

              Even given the definition sarc continues to repeat his retarded and wrong beliefs.

  38. Dillinger   7 months ago

    >>Is it all a bluff?

    oh ... I see you've at least asked someone about poker

  39. Dillinger   7 months ago

    >>President Joe Biden wants to have Medicare and Medicaid cover the cost of new anti-obesity drugs

    this place would be a ton more credible if you'd start sentences more like Whatever cabal is pulling the levers in Washington wants to have ...

    1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      President Joe Biden Big Pharma wants to have Medicare and Medicaid cover the cost of new anti-obesity drugs

      1. Dillinger   7 months ago

        yes! much better.

  40. Dillinger   7 months ago

    when is Jack Smith returning the $90mil?

  41. Dillinger   7 months ago

    the Tuesday before Thanksgiving is special because it acts as a Thursday.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   7 months ago

      Here I thought it was more of a Wednesday as it’s a hump day for this week.

      1. Dillinger   7 months ago

        if you skip tomorrow like it's a Friday today leads into a five-day weekend.

        1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

          So it’s really payday?

          1. Dillinger   7 months ago

            that's up to ADP

  42. Dillinger   7 months ago

    >>Michael Lacey has been released on bail while he appeals his conviction for money laundering.

    did they ... check the money he bailed out with?

    1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      It was clean.

      1. damikesc   7 months ago

        Like INSANELY clean. As if it was went thru a washer or something.

        Weird.

        1. Dillinger   7 months ago

          To Live And Die On Backpage

  43. Dillinger   7 months ago

    >>Spain is going to spend $22 billion to shut down its nuclear power plants

    less power, not Moor.

    1. Chumby   7 months ago

      The pain in Spain will fall mostly on the plains.

    2. mad.casual   7 months ago

      Nobody ever expects the Spanish end to fission.

      1. Dillinger   7 months ago

        love it.

    3. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      They want to eliminate the nuclear option.

    4. Ajsloss   7 months ago

      I think you mean the Moops.

      1. Dillinger   7 months ago

        the episode just ran on Comedy while I was home for lunch lol

  44. Chumby   7 months ago

    Give Peace a Chance

    Making the Devil's Advocate for a once, one can easily say:

    From the Israeli Perspective, the agreement is not but a forced imposition by the Biden Administration upon the Jewish State

    From what has been reported to us, the Biden Administration has heavily threatened to pass a UN Security Council Resolution against the Jewish State that would force Israel into a diplomatic capitulation in Lebanon.

    This is, so to speak, a last gasp by the liberal-progressive faction of the US State Department Bureaucracy to give a “final progressive legacy” to the outgoing Joe Biden to mark the history books of the future that “In the last moments of his presidency, at least he managed to bring about a ceasefire in Lebanon.”

    The Israeli Right expects that Israel will have full freedom of action and full diplomatic support within 50 days to do what the leadership of the Jewish State sees as ideal to defeat not only Hezbollah but the so-called Axis of Resistance led by the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    - Bellum Acta

    1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      Everything Biden does is fake.

  45. Lester75   7 months ago

    I agree with the 'premature bluster' argument. These tariffs are unlikely to happen. This hot air is designed to get concessions from our neighbors. There is a shitload of manufacturing for U.S. companies in Mexico. Includes autos, appliances, electronics etc. These companies have already moved manufacturing out of China to places like Vietnam and Mexico. Just shuffling from one low-cost manufacturing place to another (albeit maybe not quite as cheap as China) has already cost businesses a lot. There are a lot of business donors and lobbyists who are usually friendly to Repubs that will push back on this. I don't think Trump or his politicos care about inflation as much as they care about their donors and lobbyists they deal with every day.

  46. voluntaryist   7 months ago

    Nothing is more dangerous, more economically costly than a trade war. Trump's tariffs step up a trade war, and hurt all economies involved. It creates political tension between all concerned. Using trade as a political weapon creates smuggling, deadly enterprises. It is anti-capitalism, but the free market will get the blame.
    "Govt. is NOT the solution, it's the problem." - Ronald Reagan

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   7 months ago

      You do realize there's already tariffs in place and they've had no effect on inflation rates whatosever, right dingdong?

      And stop quoting Reagan as a thought-stopping mechanism. Whatever glib saying you might try out doesn't really apply in this situation.

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

      Ronald Reagan also issued tariffs.

  47. XM   7 months ago

    I'm an immigrant, and my family buy more imported products than most Americans. We knew Trump was tariff man, and tariffs would raise prices on us. We voted for him anyways. I don't think I have to explain why.

    The porous border alone is about 100 times more destructive than any tariff. Trump made the biggest gains in just about every demographic that would be hurt most by tariffs. That tells you a story. What writers here derided as Trump's "recklessness" is seen as decisiveness by voters. They actually want someone who can say "If Ukraine isn't serious about peace, then no more weapons for them".

    But at the end of the day, tariffs are indeed bad for the economy. And because protectionism was originally a democrat policy and that party needs to reclaim the working class vote, that issue won't be the case of "Just do the opposite of what Trump does". Free trade center right is even more of a minority now.

    So we're going to have to compromise. Trump likely won't slap tariffs that high. He can lower prices in other areas with continued deregulatory approach. Much like abortion, if tariffs start to eat into his popularity, he may evolve. It would help if our "ally" actually put some effort into stopping gazillions of people from crossing their land to reach the United States.

    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   7 months ago

      I'm a Canadian. Trump has threatened to enact tariffs on us if Trudeau doesn't stem the tide. Canadians are thrilled because Trudeau has overwhelmed our infrastructure importing the third world and if this is what might stem the tide and close the airports, so be it.

    2. DesigNate   7 months ago

      “And because protectionism was originally a democrat policy”

      Can you imagine a world where the party hadn’t moved so far left (dragging the GOP with them), that todays Republicans were closer to 90’s Republicans instead of 90’s Democrats?

  48. Red Rocks White Privilege   7 months ago

    Are tariffs inflationary

    Good question. Based on the actual data, the connection between tariff increases and inflation is incidental at best, and has no effect whatsoever at worst.

    After the great bete-noir of the anti-tariff crowd, Smoot-Hawley, passed in 1930, there was massive DE-flation, not inflation. After that, inflation rates rose and fell through the early 70s, before taking off and largely staying high from 1974-1983. During this time period, tariff rates were either on a downward trend or remained stable below 10%. Total import tariffs have actually stayed below 10% since the late 1940s, regardless of what the inflation rate was.

    So this assertion that tariffs are going to send inflation skyrocketing don’t stand up to the actual facts. Inflation happens, or doesn’t, irrespective of what the tariff rate is at.

  49. Roberta   7 months ago

    ...

    Special Counsel Jack Smith filed motions on Monday to drop all charges against President-elect Donald Trump for his role in trying to overturn the 2020 election, as well as in the case about Trump possibly mishandling of classified documents.

    Could there be any starker proof they were horse shit all along? I don't know why anyone in this country — no, make that the world — now obeys any law at all, except out of fear. Everybody should now be a crook, it's more fun. Break the law of gravity too if you can get away with it.

  50. AT   7 months ago

    What he should be doing is giving anyone who provides useable intel on an illegal, resulting in a deportation, a tax credit. And immunity from criminal or tort liability.

    Put bounties on their heads. You help hand over 50 illegals to ICE, in any condition, and they're punted out of this nation on their ass-end, thank you citizen you don't have to pay taxes this year.

    And if they're MS13 or TdA or something, a scalp or a thumb that you can pair with their corpse will suffice. Pay the American people to help mop up this criminal alien slop.

  51. NM Dave   7 months ago

    Republicans have agreed, almost unanimously and for generations, that tariffs are bad for the economy. They are a Democrat pandering tool to pacify unions, dead set on lowering productivity while making more money and ultimately raising prices to the consumer. Trump was elected, and suddenly, tariffs are good! The fact that Biden, who undid everything Trump did right, kept tariffs in place, should tell you all you need to know.

  52. TJJ2000   7 months ago

    Rand Paul is right.
    E.O. Tariffs are ILLEGAL and that illegal [D] precedence needs to end.

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