A Prosecutor Allegedly Told a Witness To Destroy Evidence. He Can't Be Sued for It.
Absolute immunity protects prosecutors even when they commit serious misconduct on the job.

Consider the following hypothetical: You are jailed for two years as you await trial for murder. You are facing the death penalty. You have cancer, which had been in remission until you were incarcerated without proper treatment and monitoring. And, it turns out, you were charged based on a false witness statement, a fact that the local prosecutor allegedly encouraged the destruction of evidence to obscure.
Now imagine suing that prosecutor and being told you have no recourse because such government employees are entitled to absolute immunity.
That is, unfortunately, not a hypothetical. It describes the case surrounding Nickie Miller, a Kentucky man who was implicated in a bizarre murder plot by a woman to whom the government had offered a deal to avoid prison time. That witness, Natasha Martin, almost immediately sought to recant. Law enforcement wouldn't accept that. She testified before a grand jury, and then she tried to recant again, writing in jailhouse letters that her statement came in response to "coercive interrogation techniques, threats, and undisclosed promises of consideration."
The story will fly under the radar. It shouldn't.
Nickie Miller was jailed for 2 years for a murder he didn't commit—in part because a prosecutor reportedly ordered a witness to destroy evidence of Miller's innocence.
Miller had cancer. It was in remission, but it relapsed… https://t.co/UNFEKAPTc4
— Billy Binion (@billybinion) July 3, 2024
When Miller's defense team caught wind of those letters, it obtained a court order for them. Martin asked Assistant Commonwealth Attorney Keith Craycraft how she should comply, to which he allegedly responded that she should destroy the correspondence. She did. (Craycraft acknowledges he spoke with Martin by phone after the court order but denies telling her to destroy evidence.)
The state eventually dropped the charges against Miller. His two years in jail, however, took a toll, according to his criminal defense attorney, who said Miller's cancer was in remission but recurred after the state locked him up, as he could not access his medication.
Following his release, Miller sued Craycraft. The district court concluded Craycraft was entitled to absolute immunity. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit subsequently noted that Craycraft's alleged chicanery was "difficult to justify and seemingly unbecoming of an official entrusted with enforcing the criminal law." But that court went ahead and ratified the grant of absolute immunity anyway—a testament to the malfeasance the doctrine permits.
Core to the decision, and to similar rulings, is Imbler v. Pachtman (1976), the precedent in which the Supreme Court created the doctrine of absolute prosecutorial immunity. The Court ruled that a man who had spent years in prison for murder could not sue a prosecutor who allegedly withheld evidence that eventually exonerated him.
Plaintiffs' only way around this doctrine is proving that a prosecutor committed misconduct outside the scope of his prosecutorial duties. It's a difficult task. Louisiana woman Priscilla Lefebure sued local prosecutor Samuel C. D'Aquilla after he sabotaged her rape case against his colleague Barrett Boeker, then an assistant warden at the Louisiana State Penitentiary in Angola.
Rather than present the grand jury with the results of a medical exam that found bruises, redness, and irritation on Lefebure's legs, arms, and cervix, D'Aquilla offered a police report with his own handwritten notes, aiming to highlight discrepancies in her story. He also declined to call as witnesses the case's two investigators, the nurse who administered Lefebure's rape kit, or the coroner who stored it. He even refused to meet or speak with Lefebure at all, telling local news outlets doing so made him "uncomfortable."
Judge Shelly D. Dick of the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Louisiana concluded that some of D'Aquilla's actions were more accurately classified as "investigative functions" as opposed to prosecutorial functions, so absolute immunity didn't apply. The unusual victory was short-lived. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit later overturned Dick's decision, ruling that Lefebure didn't have standing. The Supreme Court declined to hear her case.
Miller's case met a similar ending. "Craycraft's alleged misconduct of advising a witness to destroy evidence to thwart a court order is stunning," wrote Justice Sonia Sotomayor. "If this is what absolute prosecutorial immunity protects, the Court may need to step in to ensure that the doctrine does not exceed its 'quite sparing' bounds." The Court rejected his petition.
It's possible Craycraft would have been vindicated by a jury. Miller will never get the chance to ask one, though, as he passed away during the litigation attempting to vindicate his rights against prosecutorial misconduct.
This article originally appeared in print under the headline "Absolute Immunity Protects the Indefensible."
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Plaintiffs' only way around this doctrine is proving that a prosecutor committed misconduct outside the scope of his prosecutorial duties. It's a difficult task.
Then it is not absolute immunity.
It is the next best thing, though.
A quick skim through Imbler v Pachtman suggests to me that the "absolute immunity" asserted is not a constitutional right of prosecutors. Instead it is an interpretive assumption applied in construing the meaning of a statute.
Such interpretive assumptions are rebuttable so long as the statutory text makes that clear. So the statute can make it clear - if the legislature so wishes - that certain kinds of acts are either within or without the prosecutor's duties.
If legislatures do not like absolute immunity for prosecutors, they can restrict it.
It's absolute immunity for a certain range of acts. Apparently, asking a witness to destroy evidence is within the range.
The witness who changed stories 4 other times can surely be trusted this one time.
It could be construed as suborning perjury, which is a crime.
Criminal conduct is not protected.
It isn't just immunity: it is also impunity!
Ah, the Leftie classic of tugging on the heartstrings rather than the facts of the claim, never change Billy.
Uh, bud, the facts are right there. She testified, she recanted, she testified again, she recanted, she says she destroyed letters at the prosecutor’s insistence, he denies it, there's no way to tell if her accusation was a cover for having never written any letters, and that was the sole basis of the prosecutor’s murder case.
The prosecutor ought to be in jail and on trial for attempted murder, trying to push such a shoddy case.
What more facts do you want? Don’t just whine and provide no facts of your own. Don’t just tug on heartstrings yourself.
Why jail?
Does not his victim have a family?
The problem here is the facts are undetermined completely. The witness sounds completely unreliable. It is a he said she said.
Even if not immune proving the assertions would be basically impossible.
We have more evidence of Congress destroying evidence than we have the case here.
This is a weak case to push the narrative on for sure.
So your solution is what?
Vigilantism?
Umm... an actual justice system.
Do you prefer just stringing up people without evidence or something?
Thete is evidenve and its in the article.
There is not evidence only unreliable witness testimony.
Martin asked Assistant Commonwealth Attorney Keith Craycraft how she should comply, to which he allegedly responded that she should destroy the correspondence. She did. (Craycraft acknowledges he spoke with Martin by phone after the court order but denies telling her to destroy evidence.)
Care to try again?
Vigilantism is the last-resort solution.
Always obey the authorities, eh?
Of course. Remember how J(ew)free was all through Covid.
It is that witness unreliabilty which makes him culpable. He pushed murder charges for two years with his best evidence apparently being a jail house snitch who recanted twice, then claimed she had written letters saying the same thing but conveniently blamed their destruction on the prosecutor. Three unverifiable claims.
That is why I say the prosecutor was trying to frame the defendant and deserves to be tried for attempted murder. It doesn't matter what the truth of the matter is, because he has muddied the waters so much that the truth cannot be determined.
The unreliability of the witness should be determined by the jury in a court setting. While juries are basically idiots, you're asking us here to rely on the unreliable witness as fact evidence against the prosecutor. Which is weird.
The solution here would be to simply appeal and release. There is no evidence that is reliable to simply lock up those you hate. If you believe so you're as bad as the prosecutor in this case.
Reason has a history of using really bad examples for their narratives. This is one of those cases. There is no good solution because there is no determinate facts. Which means the convictions should be overturned, not double down and try to harm others on the same unreliable fact base.
I am doing no such thing.
I am saying that her unreliability, and his reliance on her unreliability, are sufficient to charge him with attempted murder.
Appeal and release for prosecutorial malfeasance like this is as dumb as catch and release at the border.
That is the system we have. Using unreliable facts in a case is not illegal. Coercing a witness can be. Although the USSC has held that up multiple times for a DA, which I disagree with.
This is why a jury system does in fact exist.
I don't think the case reached a criminal level of guilt, but I'm not going to use the same unreliable evidence to criminalized the DA either. You seem to want to do so.
Precisely. You don't think the case reached a criminal level of guilt.
You are not the jury. That is their decision. Stop relying on government prosecutorial monopoly. Victims should do the prosecuting, with loser pays to prevent wild-ass accusations.
I get it. Younhate prosecutors. So you are fine with subjecting one to criminal violations solely off testimony despite you decrying that usage against others.
Yeah. Principles.
Extra hilarious that I argue the facts at hand while you continue to imply false strawman arguments for prosecution support. Learning from sarc?
Immunity means unaccountability. It is a perversion of democracy and the US Constitution.
All immunity from all government officials should be removed effective immediately. The feeble excuse that they need this immunity to perform their jobs is just that, a feeble excuse. Why does someone need to be unaccountable in order to perform the duties of their job? Maybe the “Accountable Sword of Democules” is a prudent option.
No government should have immunity in a democracy. Accountability is the root of democracy. Immunity is a cancer that needs to be cut out.
A stopgap solution for the interim might be some sort of state body that reviews specific cases of judicial, prosecutorial and police misconduct, and can determine whether or not they qualify for immunity protections in that instance.
Oh ha ha ha. Yeah, right, the government being trusted to investigate the government, yeah, what a sure-fire stopgap do-nothing solution.
Maybe the next step would be a sternly-worded letter threatening further sternly-worded letters.
So your solution is vigilantism?
My solution is victim prosecution. My solution also includes punishing perjury per "the issue at stake", which in this case is attempted murder; he should be punished for whatever maximum punishment he was pushing, whether that be 20 years, life without parole, or death.
My solution is no more likely than ML's. But as long as we're pushing fantasy solution, I'd prefer to not push solutions which depend on trusting government.
Based on what actual prosecutable evidence? You want to act the same as the prosecutor just in the other way.
Buddy, stop playing stupid. You know damned well that every trial involves alleged criminal activity, and it is juries which decide facts. Here the alleged criminal activity is relying on a confused unreliable witness well past her use-by date for a murder prosecution longs past its sell-by date, which is attempted murder.
Stop pretending this prosecutor has a shaky case and just made a mistake. If his only evidence for murder is a witness who has twice testified and recanted, and blames him for destroying letters which may or may not have ever existed, then he is trying to frame the alleged murderer, and if he's been pushing this for two years, then he hasn't got any better evidence.
It belongs in front of a jury, not some idiotic appeal and release as if no harm had been done or intended.
Lol. So above you claim the prosecutor used unreliable evidence. Now you admit the same witness is still unreliable but want to use the evidence against the prosecutor.
You are doing exactly as I have claimed you are doing.
This is wild. Lol.
I want the victim to be able to prosecute his persecutor. If the victim can't convince a jury, he loses, he pays. If he wins and proves the prosecutor was guilty of perjury in a murder case, the prosecutor should be punished as he would have punished his victim.
Why are you so enamored of government prosecutors and so afraid of victim prosecution?
To clarify. You want the prosecution to pay based on unreliable testimony for using unreliable testimony.
Got it.
No Jesse, SGT is saying that the victim should have the opportunity.
Immunity takes that away.
I can see why you defend total immunity for prosecutors though. Trump wants to give it to police. So you must defend it.
The judge should have thrown the case out of the evidence was that flimsy. No jury should be able to overcome reasonable doubt with such little (and questionable evidence). But we see irresponsible prosecutions like this all the time. The Kobe Bryant rape case comes to mind.
"Oh ha ha ha. Yeah, right, the government being trusted to investigate the government, yeah, yeah, what a sure-fire stopgap do-nothing solution."
Here, let me help you.
stopgap
noun An improvised substitute for something lacking; a temporary expedient.
noun A temporary measure or short-term fix used until something better can be obtained.
The whole justice system needs to be torn down and redone, but until that libertarian utopia arrives, they need to deal with immunity for possibly criminal and unethical abuses.
What I mentioned could be a way for state governors to temporarily deal with that using the power that they have available to them.
Sarc says you only get arrested if you are guilty, so this article doesn’t exist.
Cops are evil unless they are dealing with MAGA and then they can do no wrong.
Maybe he supports Absolut immunity.
Only if subjected to the Miller Test.
Tar, feathers, rail.
If you need instructions, look online.
No. He relied on unreliable testimony in a murder case, beyond all reason. He should be tried for attempted murder.
Why else would he put so much effort into protecting such an unreliable witness? He must have had no better evidence. There's no way to prove anything the witness said, whether it was her testimony or her recantations.
Most witness testimony is unreliable.
And for a jury to decide. Why are you trying to let this prosecutor off the hook?
Why do you want to prosecute him for the same unreliable testimony you admit to and are angry about? Lol.
You seemingly are okay with using unreliable evidence as long as it harms your enemies and you pretend to be principled. It is wild.
I want the victim of the alleged prosecutor perjury to be able to prosecute that perjury.
Why do you want to protect the government prosecutor from even going to trial?
There's a huge difference between not knowing if evidence will stack up, and intentionally using shoddy evidence. Stop pretending there is none.
Stop making excuses for absolute prosecutor immunity. Stop pretending you know how a jury would decide.
2nd same strawman argument lol.
Explain your position with an intelligent, consistent argument.
Why is unreliable testimony good to go after the prosecutor with, but wrong for the defendant.
If you don’t want the latter you shouldn’t cheer the former.
I think it is wrong in both cases. You defend it for your perceived enemy.
Stop making excuses for absolute prosecutor immunity.
He has to because Trump wants to give absolute immunity to the police. He can’t defend absolute immunity for the police while not defending it for prosecutors as well. Once in a while he’s logically consistent.
Additionally he must attack you for having bad intentions towards prosecutors to make the immunity argument about you, not principle, while accusing you have not having principles.
If you pay attention, whenever he accuses someone of something, like a strawman argument, he's doing it himself.
You’re in love with Jesse. I’ll bet you try to get him to respond so you have more material for you to jack it.
You have some deviant attraction to him. Kind of like the Joker has with Batman. You’re just more retarded.
Look ar sarc lie. Lol.
It is all he has. I have not argued on prosecutor immunity you lying dishonest shit weasel. I've argued on the reliance of the same evidence you are angry about. In fact I said:
I think it is wrong in both cases. You defend it for your perceived enemy.
Once again, you are for using political and state power against those you disagree with. And even violate your beliefs to use state powers against your ex wife, sending sherrifs after her.
You have no principles. You can't make an honest argument. You're pathetic man lol.
You can’t make an honest argument.
Nor a Cuban.
Never heard of a Cuban argument.
You sandwich them in other arguments.
Mark my words, Sarc would burn that Cuban sandwich just to spite a customer. He is well known for doing stupid things like that,
I would burn your Cuban sandwich if I knew it was you because you are an insufferable cunt.
I found out what those delicious things were and instead of people saying “Yeah, they’re great aren’t they” you guys said “Ha ha ha ha you’re stupid we knew about them forever ha ha ha!”
And you still brag about it to each other.
I bet your moms are proud.
Poor sarc.
Goddamn Sarc. Way to showcase your stupidity here. Drunk, stupid bitch.
You are arguing against the opportunity to take the prosecutor to court.
That is arguing for immunity.
If you think this case has no merit that’s fine. But that’s not your argument. Your argument is that the opportunity shouldn’t exist.
So you are defending absolute immunity.
If you care to prove you are not defending absolute immunity, say that people should be allowed the opportunity to sue prosecutors, regardless of your personal feelings about the particular case, and let a jury sort it out.
You won’t though. Because you fully support absolute immunity for prosecutors and judges, as well as Trump’s plan to give it to police.
CBS Sunday Morning has a segment on how children less than ten are taught how to spot fake news. They used Soviet and MAGA propaganda as examples of fake news.
No coincidence - Finland ranks #1 in world media literacy.
https://osis.bg/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/MLI-report-in-English-22.06.pdf
Finland with 74 points is first in the ranking in the new European Media Literacy Index 2023 out of 41 countries in total. It is followed closely by Denmark with 73 points in 2nd place, Norway with 72 points in 3rd place, Estonia and Sweden with similar scores of 71 points each in 4th and 5th place, Ireland with 70th points in 6th place. The ranking is done on a scale from 1 to 41, highest to lowest and the scores are 0-100, lowest to highest score.
US is #17.
CBS Sunday Morning has a segment on how children less than ten are taught how to spot fake news. They used Soviet and MAGA propaganda as examples of fake news.
Wow, I can't believe you're bragging about this and don't recognize this as an overt and incredibly creepy form of propaganda itself, right out of 1984.
Oh wait. Of course you realize. You're just rubbing the fascism of it all in our faces.
Might as well train Large Language Models on misclassified misinformation. Why waste time on kids?
Oh, that's right, this is pluggo the pedo, kicked off Reason once for posting links to kiddie porn.
Not surprising at all you watching a program focusing on children under the age of ten.
Looking for date ideas I expect.
He saw Finland and children thinking Lapland meant something else.
Nor way!
Pluggo gets creepier by the day.
So yesterday you pushed jailing your political opponents. Today you push state indoctrination of children.
Did you read 1984 and think "you know what, this is a good thing?"
Quit lying, Jesse.
Obviously you lack any critical thinking skills at all. Don't mischaracterize critical thinking that debunks Soviet/MAGA propaganda because you are in the Trump Cult.
You, sarc, Jeff always retreat to the intellectual argument of nuh uh. Lol.
We have evidence of government literally working to push lies and false narratives. This training is to accept those claims.
You're a fucking authoritarian. You're not a classical liberal. You believe and openly defend state indoctrination.
Reminder of who you have claimed are credible truth tellers: media matters, TPM, and fucking Adam Schiff.
You're a piece of shit pedophilic leftist who demands obedience to government lol.
"Don’t mischaracterize critical thinking that debunks Soviet/MAGA propaganda"
Remind us all of a time before now when news sources "debunked" the opposition party outside of the opinion pages, Tovarishch Pluggo.
That was something that only outfits like Pravda and Völkischer Beobachter did.
Why don't you tell us again how Haitians in Springfield are eating pets.
Not only that, they were eating the ducks and geese from the park too.
That’s what happens when you dump 20,000 illegal immigrants from the absolute worst shithole in the Western hemisphere, into a small and sleepy Ohio town of 60k.
Anyway, shitty attempt at a redirect. Hope you didn't get fifty cents for it.
Asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants.
Why do you attack people who are in the country legally while claiming to only hate the ones who are here illegally?
Are you so stupid that you don’t understand that asylum seekers awaiting a court date are legal?
Are you deliberately conflating illegal with legal because you’re a mendacious prick?
It’s one or the other. Stupid or dishonest. Which is it?
Whether or not asylum seekers should be awaiting trial here or in the last sanctuary state the were in is a different question. I think they should wait in Mexico or Canada or wherever they last were. But that doesn't change the fact that they are legally here while they wait.
"Asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants."
Asylum seekers is a made up word to conflate illegals with legitimate refugees.
You guys are so disgusting.
Malicious dishonesty it is.
Speak for yourself, chief conflater.
"Malicious dishonesty it is"
Yes, you really should stop, you angry drunk.
When faced with a choice between admitting that legal asylum seeking immigrants are legally in the country, or being honest and admitting to being a hateful bigot, he redefines legal immigration.
Wow. Hope all the courts and media gets the memo. You've got to spread the word that these people are in the country illegally. Make sure the people who make the laws know this.
Oh, but you've got immigrant family, that means you don't hate immigrants! I bet you've got a black friend to prove you're not a racist, and a gay friend to prove you're not a homophobic bigot!
What a sack of shit.
Yeah, technically they do have a legal status. But it is a huge abuse/misuse of the asylum system that has been going on.
Not only that, they were eating the ducks and geese from the park too.
Looks like the MAGA disinformation propaganda has done its job on you.
Prove a negative, jeff. Prove it isn't true. You can't. That makes it true.
We gave you lying fucks video and you claimed that they were barbequing chickens despite the four skinny drumsticks per long bird.
Video of not Haitians, in not Springfield, not this year, with what might be cats on a grill, doesn’t prove your malicious accusations.
"Video of not Haitians, in not Springfield, not this year, with what might be cats on a grill"
1. It was Haitians, 2. It was near Springfield, 3. it was last year.
You are just determined not to believe your lying eyes for the sake of patrician narratives and because fuck the proletarii and their Trumpus Gracchus, right?
Repeating lies persuades your gang who is run on emotion, but others of us wait for facts.
"MAGA disinformation propaganda"
Or as you call it, "your lying eyes and ears". It was all dEePfAkeS right, Lying Jeffy?
Every single bit of evidence that your team tried to conjure up to try to 'prove' that Haitians were eating pets in Springfield, turned out to be some combination of (1) not Haitians, (2) not pets, and (3) not in Springfield.
That you continue to this day, to believe that Haitians were eating pets in Springfield, proves the efficacy of MAGA disinformation propaganda.
He feels that it's true, just as he feels that asylum seekers are illegal. The only thing that could possibly sway him is another emotional argument. That means those of us who rely on facts and reason can never persuade him.
(1) It was Haitians, (2) It was stray cats and dogs. Your attempt to define it as "pets" to the exclusion of strays is rank dishonesty, and (3) some video was near Springfield, others were in Springfield.
You and your drunken clown cadet Sarckles are so ridiculously dishonest.
You mean the Peking Duck?
You were just defending a TPM opinion piece yesterday and making excuses for easily identifiable falsehoods lol.
But we get it. Citizen testimony to you is always false, the state is always right.
LOL I wasn't defending the TPM article. I was criticizing your mendacious criticism.
the state is always right
Huh, right here in this very thread you are defending the state, specifically, government prosecutors.
You also don't mind trusting the state when they publish immigration numbers that your team uses to create OMG INVASION narratives.
You also don't mind trusting the state when they publish economic numbers or crime numbers - provided a Republican is president anyway.
Your whole "don't trust the state" is just a tired schtick because you have no real argument against why we ought to trust rumors and anecdotes over verifiable facts tabulated by the government. It's just your stupid way of pushing narrative over truth when the truth delivers inconvenient facts to you.
should be "you have no real argument in favor of why we ought to trust rumors and anecdotes over verifiable facts tabulated by the government"
Your whole “don’t trust the state” is just a tired schtick
It’s just another of his dishonest ad hominem arguments that attack the person for “trusting the state” making their arguments wrong, meanwhile on other topics he attacks anyone who doesn’t trust the state.
He’s got no principles or ethics at all. He’s simply an attack dog on behalf of the Trump narrative.
dishonest ad hominem arguments
Just bound and determined to never get that one right, huh?
It’s his binary thinking.
Most hilarious part I'd wr actually read the TPM link and disputed the lack of evidence and facts they had wrong.
To sarc this makes it an ad hominem apparently. Lol.
Meanwhile citizens discussing Haitians are wrong just because it was the citizens saying it and not the government.
No, dipshit. Your ad hominem is that someone’s argument is wrong because they trust the government. Yet you trust the government all the time when it furthers your narrative. That makes you an, oh my God, hypocrite! You practically orgasm when you call others hypocrites, yet you’re the poster child for hypocrisy! What a maroon.
Also, nobody said the claims against Haitians are wrong because citizens made the claims, not government. They’re saying the claims are unsubstantiated because there is no proof. Those same people who doubt the claims will change their minds when provided with proof. As opposed to your gang who feels that it’s true, and no amount of proof can change something you arrived at through emotion.
If you actually understood what "ad hominem" means, Sarc, you might be half as smart as you think you are.
"Your ad hominem is that someone’s argument is wrong because they trust the government."
That's not what ad hominem means or how it works, you ferocious retard. This inability you have to learn after years of being given the correct definition by dozens of people here is astonishing.
Kari Lake 'drove a stake' through her campaign. Somewhere, McCain is laughing
It's an exceedingly bad sign for Kari Lake that she's polling about as well as Mark Robinson, whose campaign is tanking after CNN's 'Black NAZI!' revelations.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2024/09/26/kari-lake-senate-race-over-poll-gallego/75398065007/
Holy non sequitur. Lol.
Even you are actually embarrassed by your stances here.
What a surprise, another black man wandering off the Democratic Party’s reservation makes Buttplug’s slave-chaser shit list.
Starch that cone, Kleagle.
another black man wandering off the Democratic Party’s reservation
You mean Mark Robinson, the guy who calls himself a "Black Nazi"? But I thought Nazi meant left-wing and Democrats are basically Nazis. So if Mark Robinson is calling himself a Nazi, why does he identify as a Republican?
His sexual S&M play-acting kink, is hardly more disturbing than your child castration catamite kink.
Fuck, most of the Nazi She-Wolf of the SS sexploitation movies from seventies were made by Jews. It doesn’t mean that they were self-hating, and it doesn't mean Robinson is self-hating. Just perverts.
Fucking hypocrite.
His sexual S&M play-acting kink
Oh, is that what you think it was?
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/19/politics/kfile-mark-robinson-black-nazi-pro-slavery-porn-forum/index.html
Sorry, that isn't some S&M spank-me-harder crap.
Again I'm wondering, why would such a guy identify as a Republican? I thought all the Nazis and the racists were Democrats.
“I’m a black NAZI!”, “Slavery is not bad. Some people need to be slaves. I wish they would bring it (slavery) back. I would certainly buy a few,” he wrote.
You're absolutely right. Those particular examples were sarcasm.
Stuff like this is why you're evil, Jeffy.
17/41 = 41ish%
That would be middle of the pack.
Retard.
Jesus Christ, you sick fucks just absolutely cannot let kids be kids.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Well... Got a few days?
Get woke! Wanting to fuck kids is now normal, and will soon define a new protected class.
Being as it's Sarah Palin's Bushpig, he wants to fuck them. And I don't just mean metaphorically.
Now show them COVID PSAs.
Jeff Flake endorses Kamala Harris for president: 'I know of her character'
Stephanie Murray Arizona Republic
....
“If you are a conservative, then you believe in the rule of law and you believe in limited government, economic freedom, individual responsibility, free trade. And I think that if you look at the two candidates, Kamala Harris represents more of those views than Donald Trump,” Flake said. “I don't agree with everything that the Harris campaign has put out. That's not necessary. I've never agreed with the entire platform of any Republican I voted for.”
Flake was considered the most Libertarian member of the Senate until his run-in with Donnie cost him his seat.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/29/jeff-flake-endorses-kamala-harris-for-president/75421304007/
So he supports defunding the police and bail fubds for rioters?
Lol. No he wasn't. Flake was always a joke even in Arizona. He was the standard McCain republican who would subverting his principles as soon as the NYT called. It is why he was pushed out. Standard unioarty conservative who played the role of opposition but faltered every time it mattered.
McCain is revered in Arizona.
After that crazy bitch Kari Lake shat on the memory of McCain she has become toxic in the state - down 13% points to a far-left progressive for the Senate seat the centrist Sinema is leaving.
McCain is revered in Arizona.
Thanks for the laugh!
No. He isn’t. He is revered by the old uniparty old guard. All of his machinery has now failed. He has a few old guard still in state positions from prior to his death, but that machinery is basically ended. Lol.
If over 50 and really a Democrat, revered. For everyone else he bece a joke when he saved ACA.
"McCain is revered in Arizona"
Oh wow!
Another unrepentant Iraq-war neocon makes Buttplug's great man list. Say Pluggo, would McCain have voted Kamala, too?
While Flake was ambassador to Turkey under the Biden-Harris administration, Ankara took a hard shift from supporting its NAFO ally while warming to Moscow. Turkey currently has an application in to join BRICS.
But one can’t put all of that on Flake considering Erdogan’s dissatisfaction with Biden-Harris; Flake had little to work with there.
Shrike is acting like this is big news when Flake endorsed Biden in 2020 for that job.
Everything about Kamala is fake.
Ex Trump Republicans in Harris ads outed as paid actors.
@amuse
@amuse
ELECTION INTERFERENCE: Kamala Harris created fake videos to mislead voters. She paid two actors to pretend they were former Pennsylvania Farmers & Trump Voters who switched to Kamala. They’ve been loyal democrat donors for years.
https://x.com/amuse/status/1839974953485013259
Reminds me of that Space Week video with Kamala where all the children were hired actors.
And she still sounded retarded answering the pre planned questions.
While she did come off as an idiot, something she has an aptitude for, it was probably better the children met with her instead of Biden. Who nose how bad that would have been.
Yes, it’s a good thing Joe wasn’t scent there.
Too bad ot wasn't raining that day for Biden to meet the children under light showers.
"Simply inventing bullshit without any evidence whatsoever, does not make something true."
But there was evidence unlike your Talking Points Memo debacle yesterday.
Or are you saying that the actors who have appeared in other commercials before, also miraculously happened to be repentant ex-Republicans.
Where's the evidence?
Yes, exactly. The assertions in your Talking Points Memo piece had none.
No video, no audio. Not even a direct quote.
Cute.
Where's the evidence that these two people are paid actors "to pretend they were former Pennsylvania Farmers & Trump Voters"?
Where’s the evidence that these two people are paid actors
The previous advertisements they acted in. Are you being retarded on purpose just to redirect?
Now, where’s the evidence that the claims in your Talking Points Memo piece are true? They didn't even provide a direct quote.
Is there a single dem lie Jeff won’t defend?
What’s funny is the guy in that clip is also in the pro Gallego ads here in Arizona. They aren’t even switching up actors.
I don't trust your team to tell the truth.
Where is the evidence that they are paid actors pretending to be "former Pennsylvania Farmers & Trump Voters"?
"I don’t trust your team to tell the truth."
Which is yet another lie, because you know that we actually have been telling the truth and you know that you have been purposefully lying.
Note. Jeff has blind trust in democrats. Even when given video he won't trust a republican.
Amazing admission.
Jeff has blind trust in democrats.
no, that's you and your Team Red pals. How many times a day do you uncritically repeat every dumbass rumor that you read on Twitter just because it says mean things about Team Blue?
lol you and your team lie all the time. Case in point: Haitians eating pets, Jan. 6 was an FBI plot/instigated by Antifa, COVID vaccine worse than COVID itself, "Disinformation Governance Board" is Orwell's Minitrue come to life, Biden "going after" parents who protest at school board meetings, etc., etc.
Everything you just listed has actual evidence (which I know you've seen) supporting it, except for the "instigated by Antifa" bit which you seem to have made up now.
The fact that you're attempting to minimize the sheer totalitarian excess and attacks on civil rights that has been occurring during the Biden administration's term, demonstrates what a monster and a Nazi you are.
I don't say that you're evil for no reason.
To My Fellow Libertarians: It's Time to Embrace the Harris-Walz Ticket
Libertarians, long used to holding their noses to pick the lesser evil or abstaining entirely, now have plenty of reasons for enthusiasm.
Jacob Grier
....
As libertarian humorist P. J. O’Rourke back-handedly praised Hillary Clinton in 2016, she may have been wrong but she was “wrong within normal parameters.” Never has this been true of Donald Trump. For a decade he has been a toxic main character on the national stage, one who has increased the salience of politics to everyday life, debased the political right, and raised the stakes of every presidential election to existential levels. The 2024 election is a chance to finally send him slinking off, if not to prison than at least to his gaudy Florida resort. Libertarians should feel joy at the prospect.
....
There’s no need to overthink this. A vote for Harris and Walz is a vote to send Trump and Vance and their coterie of weird would-be authoritarians packing, to restore some normalcy to politics, to protect the rights of women, immigrants, LGBTQ Americans, and anyone who uses illicit substances, and to stand up for democracy, the Constitution, and the rule of law. My fellow libertarians, did you just fall out of a coconut tree? You shouldn’t need a gun to your head to make the right decision here.
https://www.liberalcurrents.com/to-my-fellow-libertarians-its-time-to-embrace-the-harris-walz-ticket/
An overwhelming majority of Teamsters disagree.
Lol.
Sarc, do you see the stupidity you defend and support now?
Did DemSalad write this one?
Did someone call?
Grier’s full of it. Meanwhile, Chase Oliver is making some minor gains in the polls, and those swing states are closer than ever. Looks like 1% could be enough to “spoil” 30+ electoral votes for someone. I'll get to celebrate regardless of who wins.
So you're admitting you aren't actually principled, you just want spoilers lol.
Maybe he can be celebrated through corporate dem media again. That will really excite you.
Good work exposing your motivations Mike.
Spoiling is good. It's the only way you'll learn.
He won't learn. That's already been proven without a doubt.
You never know. By 2028 his personal savior will be gone or going, and he'll have to latch onto something new.
Lol. God damn this is all you retards have.
I wasn’t for Trump this year retard leftist shit.
But he is better than Kamala and has better actual policies than empty suit Obama fan boy chase. The latter of whom would accomplish nothing even if he was able to get above 3%. Half the LP fucking hates his identitarian empty suit ass. Lol.
But you’re a Democrat. So you prefer the empty suit Obama fan boy.
I wasn’t for Trump this year retard leftist shit.
*spit take*
So no principles. It isn't about how your liberty is effected. It isn't about how many rights you lose. It is about cheering with dem media for spoilers (we know which way you want it spoiled lol).
Good work Mike.
Cause we all know liberty is found by spoiling races. What a fucking joke lol.
This is refreshing. You've switched from strawmanning to concern trolling.
Why do all of you leftists misuse fallacies?
What do I have wrong? You're cheering on race spoiling. There is zero policy concerns in your posts above. It is you cheering. And you are cheering chase who was cheered for... wait for it... spoiling the GOP race.
Why are you all so dumb Mike?
How can a gay leftist like Chase, candidate for the pro-leftist, pro-gay Libertarian Party, be a spoiler for the anti-leftist, anti-gay Republican Party?
Shouldn’t a gay leftist siphon gay, leftist votes away from the pro-leftist, pro-gay Democrat Party?
Nobody cares if he is gay or not.
The people behind him and pushing him seem to care. He hasn’t done anything other than supporting Obama, ostensibly working in HR, and virtue signaling covid masking. He came in the rear in his previous general election. He’ll be lucky to get half of what JoJo pulled in.
By now you should know that he supported Obama when he thought Obama was an anti-war candidate. Then left the Democratic Party as soon as he discovered he'd been duped.
You have to know this by now. If you didn't, now you do.
So why keep claiming he supported Obama without giving the entire story? That's what honest people call lying by omission.
Did Chase Oliver support Obama? Ayuh.
Obama hadn’t done much of shit to support the position he was a peace candidate before running - why would someone just accept that? This is not dissimilar to how Chase doesn’t have an issues track record being an executive. He does have a website. If you want to get behind him, you are free to do so. I can’t point to much he has done to back up his platform and others may feel that way too. But yeah, blame him being gay.
Obama hadn’t done much of shit to support the position he was a peace candidate before running – why would someone just accept that?
Who knows. But he did. And when he found out he was wrong he abandoned Obama’s party.
This is not dissimilar to how Chase doesn’t have an issues track record being an executive.
Allowing himself to believe Obama was anti-war is similar to not having a job as an executive? That makes no sense.
If you want to get behind him, you are free to do so.
No post of yours is incomplete without some thinly veiled accusation of homosexuality. Grow up.
But yeah, blame him being gay.
He opposes surgery on minors for gender stuff, while saying decisions on medication should be between parents and professionals.
Meanwhile you join in the fun when his lying haters say he wants to chop off penises, while saying bureaucrats should make medical decisions.
You could try to be honest once in a while. Maybe pretend. Just for fun.
You could try to be honest once in a while. Maybe pretend. Just for fun.
Did you look in a mirror when you typed that, Sarc?
Vetting someone by merely what they say they will do doesn’t work for me and may not work for others. What has he done? Imo, that is the same question Chase should have asked of Obama before casting his support for him.
Supporting Chase is not unlike how Chase supported Obama. Faith based on a promise and not a track record. Obama failed Chase. Chase likely coming in the rear again so we won’t get to find out with him.
When a candidate leads with identity politics and not a strong track record of libertarianism, they may be on the receiving end of ridicule. I have voted for gay candidates but never one that insisted on making that their leading persona and having little else to show for them warranting my vote. If Wilt Chamberlain were alive and only ran on him having fucked 10,000 women, he likely wouldn’t get my vote either.
Supporting the Libertarian candidate isn’t about some stupid hope that they will win. It’s about getting concessions. As in “give in to us or we’ll 'steal' votes.” Problem is that they don’t influence enough voters to make a difference. Doesn’t help when their candidate is attacked for pretty much everything except what he puts on his website.
Attacked because he is wholly unqualified? He has done little to prove who he is. He virtue signaled during covid hysteria. He plays identity politics. And supported an Marxist candidate. I’m not wishing twi Act Blue donors visit him. I’m just not voting for him.
I’m a libertarian and not a Libertarian! JoJo was as bad a candidate as I could vote for. When the LP puts up a better candidate, they’ll get my vote again.
Everything you said is not what he has actually said, but rather what has been said about him.
Just be honest and say you're uncurious and will never learn any more about him than what his haters have told you.
Chumby the clown.
Thanks for reminding me why I normally don't engage.
His personal social media account is haters? His campaign of identity politics is haters? His lack of executive successes is haters? We can’t confirm but he has claimed to have supported Obama. I believe him. That lack of judgement is also a data point.
We can’t confirm but he has claimed to have supported Obama. I believe him.
Ah yes. The unforgivable sin of supporting the enemy. Even though you’ve been told dozens of times that he thought Obama was antiwar, and left the Democratic Party when he discovered he’d been duped. You wouldn’t have to be told this if you listened to any interviews with him.
HE SUPPORTED EVIL MARXIST DEMOCRAT SATAN.
Blasphemy. Unforgivable. Sold his soul to the devil. Can’t take it back.
And you wonder why you Trump defenders are called cultists.
I don’t think he should have Act Blue donors visit as a result. He has such a short resume that a character misjudgment is magnified. It is a data point but not the biggest. The lack of doing anything is the biggest with the other two sandwiched in between.
"He has such a short resume that a character misjudgment is magnified"
No, no, it's only because your homophobic. A drunken retard told me.
Omegalul, lefties bribing libertarians with social issues.
Anyone on the libertarian part of the spectrum that falls for this shit is a progressive at heart.
Libertarians support both economic and personal liberty. If both candidates abhor economic liberty, then it makes sense to make a choice based upon personal liberty. Your conservative disdain for personal liberty doesn’t make libertarians closet progressives. It just makes you an asshole.
That’s said I personally cannot support either of them.
Nobartium: Anyone on the libertarian part of the spectrum that falls for this shit is a progressive at heart."
Sarckles: Libertarians support both economic and personal liberty... Your conservative disdain for personal liberty doesn’t make libertarians closet progressives"
Lol, you couldn't make Sarcasmic up if you tried.
It’s called binary thinking, Canadian idiot.
Libertarians support both personal liberty and economic liberty.
Progressives say they support personal liberty, and they detest economic liberty.
Conservatives used to say they supported economic liberty, and they are still openly hostile to personal liberty.
Binary thinking conservatives see someone who supports personal liberty, knows at that point that they’re not conservative, and concludes that they must be progressive.
Binary, as in one or the other.
By way, there are only 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who do not.
Isn't this interesting, between Sarcasmic and KAR?
And similarly...
On top of that, both of you call ML, "moosefucker". Isn't that an interesting coincidence?
How many other socks you got, Strawcasmic?
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=9AXTszZglT0
How many beers can you drink
How many beers can you drink
How many beers can you drink
Until your breath starts to stink
How many beers can you drink
How many beers can you drink
How many beers can you drink
Until your breath starts to stink
And does it still stink when you go to work tomorrow morning?
Someone pointed out ages ago the similarities between Sarckles and KAR because of a mutual hatred for Mormons, but I never really thought about it until the "moosefucker" post, which is a pretty unique epithet.
This is the third time I've noticed you point out this thing you never noticed before.
I believe you're crazed about finding others working more than one handle because that's what you do when people get tired of your shit.
Apparently personal liberty is locking up political opponents, forcing vaccinations, taxing everyone to hell, choosing energy sources allowed to be used, regulating the fuck out of people’s choices, cutting kids dicks off, disbarring lawyers on the other side, forcing citizens to fund illegals…
Sarc understands social freedoms.
Ladies and gentlemen, here is a textbook strawman! Bravo!
No, liar. Personal liberty means the freedom to live one’s life as one chooses as long as they don’t harm others. None of your strawmen are examples of personal liberty. And, if you care to read what I actually wrote, I said that progressives say they support personal liberty. Meaning they don’t, really. While your gang is openly hostile to the concept. Especially when it comes to icky things like sex and private lives.
Jesse doesn’t understand personal liberty at all. Only fallacies. Which he fellates, much to the chagrin of his beloved GOP which only approves of fellatio between married heterosexual couples, and Republican politicians with hookers and porn stars. NOT between their attack dogs and fallacies.
Yeah, that's still not an accurate use of "strawman", tardo.
Unlike the social issues of guns and abortion.
Tell us more about how infanticide and gun grabbing is social.
It is social. Socialist.
Nice catch getting both progressives to respond.
I can’t vote for either of them.
Team
BushKamalaJacob Grier, and also endorsements from:
Bush Administration VP Dick Cheney
Bush Administration United States Attorney General Alberto González (Yay, waterboarding)
Bush Administration Homeland Security Advisor Steve Abbot
Bush Administration Director of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency Kenneth Adelman
Bush Administration Secretary of the DHS Richard C. Barth
Bush Administration Director of the National Security Council Christopher Barton
Bush Administration National Security Council Legal Adviser John Bellinger
Bush Administration Special Assistant to the President Kenneth Bernard
Bush Administration Special Assistant to the Secretary of Defense Mark E. Bitterman
Bush Administration Deputy National Security Advisor Robert D. Blackwill
Bush Administration Assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force William Bodie
Bush Administration DND Deputy General Counsel Christian M.L. Bonat
Bush Administration Assistant Secretary of State Richard Boucher
Former FBI Assistant Director Greg Brower
Bush Administration Chief Presidential Speechwriter Christopher Buckley
Bush Administration Deputy Secretary of State Jack C. Chow
Bush Administration Assistant to the President & Deputy to the Chief of Staff James W. Cicconi
Bush Administration Deputy Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Peggy Cifrino
Bush Administration Counselor of the Dept. of State Eliot A. Cohen
Bush Administration General Counsel, Dept. of the Army Benedict S. Cohen
Clinton Administration Former Secretary of Defense William Cohen
Bush Administration Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Joseph J. Collins
Bush Administration Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs Cindy Courville
Bush Administration National Security Council Legal Advisor Stephen W. DeVine
Bush Administration Secretary of the Air Force Michael Donley
Bush Administration Acting Under Secretary of the Army Raymond F. DuBois
Bush Administration Senior Executive Service Dept. of Defense Martha E. Duncan
Bush Administration Under Secretary of Defense Eric S. Edelman
Bush Administration Former Deputy Assistant to the President Richard A. Falkenrath
Bush Administration Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs
Jendayi E. Frazer
Bush Administration Deputy Assistant to the Vice President Aaron L. Friedberg
Bush Administration NSA Director of Counterterrorism William Gaches
Bush Administration Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Janice Gardner
Bush Administration Acting Attorney General of the United States Stuart M. Gerson
Bush Administration Under Secretary of State James K. Glassman
Bush Administration Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President Jon D. Glassman
Bush Administration Director of State Dept, Policy Planning David Gordon
Bush Administration Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency Michael V. Hayden
Bush Administration Counsel, President's Intelligence Oversight Board Seth Hurwitz
Bush Administration Acting Attorney General of the United States Peter Keisler
Bush Administration Assistant Secretary of State James A. Kelly
Bush Administration Under Secretary of Defense Kenneth J. Krieg
Bush Administration Deputy Administrator United States Agency for International Development James R. Kunder
Bush Administration Commander, United States Personnel Information Systems Command George Landis
Bush Administration Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary in the State Dept. Steven R. Mann
Bush Administration Deputy Under Secretary of the Army John W. McDonald
Bush Administration General Counsel, U.S. Information Agency Alberto Mora
Bush Administration Associate Deputy Attorney General Kenneth Mortensen
Bush Administration Director of National Intelligence and Former Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte
Bush Administration Secretary of the Navy Sean O'Keefe
CIA Chief of Station William R Piekney
Bush Administration National Security Advisor Daniel M. Price
Bush Administration White House Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board Vice Chairman Alan Charles Raul
Bush Administration Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency Director Victor Reis
Bush Administration Deputy Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security Paul Rosenzweig
HW Bush Administration Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Charles O. Rossotti
Bush Administration State Dept. Deputy Director of Policy Planning Kori Schake
Bush Administration Deputy Under Secretary of Defense Wayne Schroeder
Bush Administration Senior Director, National Security Council Staff and Ambassador to the International Atomic Energy Agency Gregory L. Schulte
Bush Administration Senior Director, National Security Council Staff John Simon
Bush Administration Senior Director, National Security Council Staff Stephen Slick
Bush Administration Deputy Secretary of Defense and Ambassador to NATO William H. Taft
Chief of Staff, Dept. of Homeland Security Miles Taylor
Bush Administration Deputy Attorney General Larry D. Thompson
Bush Administration Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Homeland Security Jack Thomas Tomarchio
Bush Administration Assistant Secretary of Defense John K. Veroneau
Director of Threats, Ballistic Missile Defense Organization Thomas G. Ward, Jr.
Bush Administration Principal Deputy Director, State Dept Policy Planning Matthew C. Waxman
Bush Administration Counselor of the Dept. of State Philip Zelikow
Bush Administration Deputy Secretary of State Robert B. Zoellick
That's the whole fucking Iraq war right there, Buttplug.
That's quite the list. Did you get that from somewhere, or have you been compiling it.
There is no doubt (not that there ever was much) that Harris is the MIC candidate. Whatever else one thinks of Trump, that is something worth thinking about.
Found more of jeffsarcs citations.
The mission creep of hate: Trump's dehumanization targets beyond immigrants
His stormtroopers will round up anyone they decide does not belong in this country, whether they’re citizens or not
Donald Trump and his surrogates are continuing to channel and amplify Nazism and Adolf Hitler. This is not random or happenstance. It is part of a strategy. “Feral politics” made even more explosive and toxic by adding blatant white supremacy, racism, and antisemitism. Occam’s razor, as it often does, provides the most simple and compelling proof of how Trump and his campaign’s feral hate politics strategy is very intentional: He and they have increased their antisemitism, racism, and white supremacy (and misogyny and hostile sexism) greatly in the last few weeks as the polls and other metrics show him tied with if not behind Kamala Harris, a Black South Asian woman, in the presidential election.
https://www.salon.com/2024/09/26/the-mission-creep-of-hate-dehumanization-targets-beyond/
.. a Black South Asian woman,
Who’s doing identity politics now?
Jeff, sarc, Brandy, chase Oliver, reason....
Migrants sneak into van of couple traveling from France to Britain. Couple finds one and kicks them out. Finds second when back in Britain, report migrant to police. Britain fines couple.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1l4denrr9eo
That will teach them not to leave him in a shallow grave in the woods outside of Barton Mills.
This should be pretty easy. Unless you are a professional criminal, committing a crime is, by definition, “outside the scope of [your] professional duties”. Since destroying evidence and lying under oath are both crimes which prosecutors gleefully charge us peons with, they are outside the scope of a prosecutor’s professional duties as well.
The precedents demanding “absolute immunity” are just wrong.
Cops routinely destroy evidence and the lie all the time about anything and everything. Courts are just holding prosecutors to the same standard as the police.
Similar to the “weapons of mass destruction” evidence used to justify invading Iraq. Thankfully, those buttfucks are now out of politics and not endorsing anyone.
No, not similar, and who they endorse only matters to people who care what they think. I certainly don't. Do you?
Government employees in the executive branch abusing power by manipulating evidence is not the same?
Statists supporting statists.
Not at all.
One abuses power so it can abuse us, the people they are sworn to serve.
The other abused power so it could abuse people on the other side of the globe.
I don’t see much of a similarity.
By the way, are you trying to be serious here? If not just say so and I'll abandon the conversation.
The Iraq war was a raid on the US treasury. As well, a whole generation of people in a foreign land now hate the US as a result of Bush-Cheny-Biden-Hillary-et al goose stepping their way in. The US government abusing people. It also helped undermine the credibility of the US in foreign affairs.
The Iraq war was a raid on the US treasury.
What treasury? There’s nothing there but a swimming pool full of IOUs.
As well, a whole generation of people in a foreign land now hate the US as a result of Bush-Cheny-Biden-Hillary-et al goose stepping their way in.
Tread lightly. Remember that blowback doesn’t exist. Anyone who believes in it is a leftist. At least that’s what I was told.
The US government abusing people. It also helped undermine the credibility of the US in foreign affairs.
Key word here is “foreign”. I see no valid comparison at all between domestic policing and military intervention overseas.
Nada.
I'm going to conclude that you are not serious. Just being Chumby the Clown. Have another Alen's and milk.
The IOUs got bigger by a trillion bucks from that (plus a trillion more for Afghanistan). And it is still a mess. The dollar still has value albeit measurably less due to that transfer of wealth to the MIC when the executive branch modified evidence to fit their narrative.
Ron Paul is now a leftist? Is this like when that retard Nelson kept saying that two Act Blue donors were conservative? Biden voted to go in there. Hillary did too. Biden-Harris are now borrowing more money playing Karen the global hall monitor with poor results to show for it. The blowback from their actions includes the potential for a nuclear exchange.
I already explained the financial and the potential for making Americans less safe (qv, 9/11).
I said similar and not identical. Sarckles, consider investing in a dictionary. It has words in alphabetical order and tells you what they actually mean. *pats sarc on the head* It will be good for you buddy.
I’m not you; I don’t drink alcohol.
Entitlements dwarf money to the MIC. That's a curiously leftist take you have there.
Pretty sure Rand doesn't support Trumponomics, so by the measure of being with Trump or being a leftist, Paul is leftist.
I don't really care about Act Blue and who endorses Harris.
Maybe you should invest in some integrity. So far I haven't seen any.
Thanks for the “either/or” fallacy (false equivalency). They are both bad. The health insurance industrial complex is also a problem. I have been consistent in calling for the federal government to get out of healthcare reimbursement and retirement business beyond being an adjudicator when there is a contract dispute. And much more including closing all foreign military bases and end adventurism. Regardless, it cost about $1T to go into Iraq. I’m not sure “leftists” want to eliminate the wealth redistribution programs though I’m not sure - what is you definition for “leftist?” If Biden-Harris fall under your term “leftist” then I’m not sure they want to eliminate either given all materiel gifts they keep bestowing that bandera dictator in Kiev.
Rand’s father talked a bit about blowback and I’m not sure he was ever labeled as a “leftist.”
It is a troubling trend that now two separate Act Blue donors have attempted to assassinate a potus politician.
You’re projecting again.
Miller will never get the chance to ask one, though, as he passed away during the litigation attempting to vindicate his rights against prosecutorial misconduct.
Then the matter is settled, no matter how you view the outcome.
Keep cases like this in mind when you guys attack people critical of Trump’s proposal to give complete immunity to the police.
Hmm, looks like the 'free speech absolutist' is banning people on Twitter left and right.
https://futurism.com/the-byte/twitter-suspending-more-people
Well, more left than right. But you get the idea.
Incidentally, I seem to recall a recent story involving a major presidential ticket that was suppressed on Twitter. I wonder why the usual suspects are not demanding the story be released and the owner of Twitter punished for election subversion. Oh no, let's talk instead about whether Kamamalama worked at McDonald's or not.
Twitter was previously publicly owned, now it's not.
Was this the guy that published someone’s social security number and other personal info? Sarc recently made a plea for someone here to doxx Jesse.
You mean, personal info like dick pics? I seem to recall, supporting the suppression of this important story based on 'concern' about 'personal info' was treated like a dodge and a copout.
It is amazing watching Jeff the shit weasel misconstrue the story.
A) hunter wasn't hacked by a foreign entity.
B) the issue was the foreign engagement done by Hunter for the Biden family.
C) the other issue was the amount of federal employees working with Hunter to do said business.
But you want to compare this to a hack releasing Vances personal identifiable information like address, phone, SSN, etc.
You really are a retarded and despicable leftist.
“It is amazing watching Jeff the shit weasel misconstrue the story.”
I followed the rabbit hole of links in the article looking for evidence to back its assertions, but each one led to another progressive extremist blog repeating the assertions with yet another link to a different progressive extremist blog.
The only exception was to a link in the WaPo which deliberately neglects to tell the readers that the vast majority of the 71 percent of the legal requests it acted on to remove content were child pornography and personal threats. None were US government political censorship requests like with the previous regime.
People think I’m resorting to hyperbole when I call Jeff “evil” and a “monster”, but he absolutely knows what the truth is in both cases but still chooses to tell obvious lies about them.
Some might say “Well, he’s an intersectional progressive and woke, so truth is relative to him, and what matters is how he feel’s rather than the facts”, but I don’t think that’s the case for Jeff.
I think there’s been enough evidence posted here, by him, to demonstrate that Jeff chooses to lie in order to be malevolent, rather than from being ideologically deceived.
Speaking of ideological LIES and the LIARS behind them, Moose-Mammary-Farter-Fuhrer will STILL snot acknowledge that COVID vaccines help people!
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages
Just LOOK at the interactive graph right at the top of this link!!!! COVID deaths among the unvaccinated VASTLY outnumbered, and still outnumber, the deaths among the vaccinated!!! WHY do You Perfectly Lust SOOOO Much for death and suffering, LYING servant and serpent of communicable diseases?!?!
Covid is over dude.
The orderlies at the sanitarium where he was admitted still wear the masks. It is the reality he knows.
Sure… All of those who disagree with MEEEE are… Mentally ILL!!! YES, this! Good authoritarians KNOW this already!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
All of the GOOD totalitarians KNOW that those who oppose totalitarianism are mentally ill, for sure!!!
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/27/what-is-xec-the-new-covid-variant . . . The XEC variant has spread across 27 countries, including France and the US, infecting more than 600 people. From 2 days ago ass of today...
"Covid is over dude"
Redirection is all these clowns have. In Sqrlsy's case he doesn't even know what he believes anymore.
I believe in data-driven science, and modern medicine, PervFect Barbarian Slut!
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages
Just LOOK at the interactive graph right at the top of this link!!!! COVID deaths among the unvaccinated VASTLY outnumbered, and still outnumber, the deaths among the vaccinated!!! WHY do You Perfectly Lust SOOOO Much for death and suffering, LYING servant and serpent of communicable diseases?!?!
"...neglects to tell the readers that the vast majority of the 71 percent of the legal requests it acted on to remove content were child pornography and personal threats. None were US government political censorship requests like with the previous regime."
Your PervFected citations fell off!
Thanks, Jeff, for the stink-link! I am saving shit! Fits right in with previous shit! Free speech for me butt snot for thee!
https://futurism.com/the-byte/twitter-suspending-more-people TWITTER UNDER "FREE SPEECH ABSOLUTIST" ELON MUSK IS ACTUALLY SUSPENDING WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN BEFORE. . .Twitter-in-the-Shitter under Elon Musk of the Elongated Tusk now follows in the shit-steps of “Parler”!!! Twat and UDDER slurprise!!! Parler censors liberals per Techdirt https://www.techdirt.com/2020/06/29/as-predicted-parler-is-banning-users-it-doesnt-like/
No. Contact information. It reminded me of when a NY newspaper published the names and addresses of concealed carry permit holders. This is particularly troublesome following two Act Blue donors attempting to assassinate a politician.
The only two here thar seem fixed on the president’s son’s penis are you and Dick’s mouthpiece.
That practice stopped pretty quick when people retaliated by posting the addresses of the newspaper staff. That stuff is all pretty easily found on public domain websites.
The local Team D newspaper serving this area attempted it - the police dept that got the inquiry refused to comply until the FOAA deadline where in the interim the legislative body had an emergency session with the guvnah signing the exemption immediately. Thankfully, same guvnah helped get through constitutional carry.
Why is chemtard radical deathfat so put out that his fellow pedophiles and child molesters are getting banned?
Probably because his fellow pedophiles and child molesters are getting banned.
Notice how these guys are conflating Administration, CIA and FBI political censorship requests with those from police departments and Child Protection Services.
This is why I call Jeff 'evil'.
Can I just say that I delight in any article that cites the author's own tweets?
"And here to corroborate my story, is me!"
This one is especially great. "I'm the author corroborating my article by citing my own tweet in reply to an article I also wrote!"
lmao. Clown world.
Do I even want to bother?
Nah, let's just stick with the lol stuff.
a woman to whom the government had offered a deal to avoid prison time. That witness, Natasha Martin, almost immediately sought to recant. Law enforcement wouldn't accept that. She testified before a grand jury, and then she tried to recant again
Weird.
"Testimony. Wait no, I changed my mind."
"Too bad."
[Opportunity to deliver alternate testimony to alternate party.]
"Same testimony. Wait no, I changed my mind."
[Goes to jail, writes some letters about mind-changing."
"Destroy those letters."
"Oh OK. Sure, why not."
Super weird.
Also, go look at the history of this wacky sordid tale. Natasha Martin (stoner) was obviously involved in this dude's murder in one way or another. Might not be 100% clear how, but between her and the other players the cops had enough pieces of the puzzle to figure out the overall picture.
Miller had cancer.
Who cares. 100% irrelevant.
Also, this is 100% horseplop:
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit subsequently noted that Craycraft's alleged misconduct was "difficult to justify and seemingly unbecoming of an official entrusted with enforcing the criminal law."
Let's go over to the ACTUAL US Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit. Quote: The behavior Miller describes in his complaint is difficult to justify and seemingly unbecoming of an official entrusted with enforcing the criminal law.
*pause*
This is so Emma Camp style. "The allegations are the facts!"
*continue*
At the same time, Craycraft has met his burden of establishing that the conduct at issue was committed in his role as prosecutor, rendering him immune from suit.
Well, anyway, I'm not going to go on about this obviously nonsense narrative. The key takeaway is this:
Active Prosecution.
Billy skips this critical point throughout this article, his tweet, and his previous article. If you reaaaaaalllly want me to expand on it, I will. But it's Sunday, and that football isn't going to watch itself.
It is like when Jeff and Sarc defended citing Jen Psaki claims by linking to Wikipedia that cited Jen Psaki claims.
Psuffering psuccotash. Psay it isn’t pso.
It’s pso pstupid.
The underlying principle of absolute immunity is still abominable, whether you agree with the article on this specific case. Neither prosecutors nor judges should escape civil or criminal liability where their actions warrant it.
You didn't read the decision, did you.
Nor did you follow up on the key takeaway.
I'll say it again: active prosecution.
Google it. See why this played out the way it did.
You're ducking my extremely clear point which was about the general principle of absolute immunity, not the details of the specific case.
And you're ducking the key understanding of absolute immunity.
Did the conduct occur outside of the prosecution? No. So, absolute immunity.
Claiming his "actions warranted it" - well, under the law, no it didn't. Otherwise he wouldn't have been protected. And the underlying sentiment of, "Well they shouldn't have!" isn't really a point you're making. Just a general gripe.
The problem is not with immunity from civil damages. We have way too many civil damages cases in the lawsuit-happy United States of America already. The problem is that officials have de facto criminal immunity for criminal acts they commit all the way from cops put on administrative leave with pay for violating every rule in the books while killing suspects all the way up to Presidents who violate the Constitution to kill thousands of people (except Trump, of course, who is a legitimate target of every tinhorn local prosecutor with a political axe to grind!)
The center-right limp-wrists are tone-policing again:
Today, the malignant narcissist is repeating his smear from yesterday, saying his opponent is “mentally impaired”. This is not the trait of a mentally healthy human being.
Trump: “Crooked Joe Biden became mentally impaired. But lying Kamala Harris, honestly, I believe she was born that way. There’s something wrong with Kamala. And I just don’t know what it is.”
Paul Montagu (86846e) — 9/29/2024 @ 2:27 pm
LOL, yeah, Kacklin' Kammy's not mentally impaired, she's only pretending to be retarded.
Like sarc!
Last year the exact same clowns were calling Kamala retarded while saying Joe was as sharp as a tack.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13905717/Trump-proposes-terrifying-solution-end-violent-crime-observers-fear-taken-Purge.html
Trump proposes terrifying solution to end violent crime in the US... and observers fear he has taken from The Purge
I've been saying for a while that this is what his followers want. Now he's suggesting it. See how his defenders spin this accidental endorsement of mass murder.
Send out death squads like they do in the movies, and they just end all the bad people that aren’t in prison because lawyers protect them. Just let the cops murder the motherfuckers. Anyone the cops don’t like.
That’s what he’s proposing.
That’s what his defenders will be defending soon. Mass. Fucking. Murder. They’re defending absolute immunity for prosecutors on this thread.
It’s like he wants to turn the country into a bad 80s movie.
Miller will never get the chance to ask one, though, as he passed away during the litigation attempting to vindicate his rights against prosecutorial misconduct.
Could be worse, he could've been sentenced to death by a 9-3 split decision at the sentencing hearing.
Can't we at least fire the prosecutor for being bad at his job?
Then continue with other charges against them, criminal, civil, law license... Put their names on a national 'do not hire as prosecutor' list.
Until government officials, including police, are held accountable for their actions, we live in a oligarchy police state.
Prosecutor withholding evidence should be prosecuted with fraud, fired and disbarred.