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Price controls

Kamala Harris' Dishonest and Stupid Price Control Proposal

Government intervention caused inflation, and it threatens to make matters worse.

J.D. Tuccille | 8.19.2024 7:00 AM

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Vice President Kamala Harris speaks at a campaign event in Raleigh, North Carolina, in front of a blue banner that says "OPPORTUNITY ECONOMY, LOWERING YOUR COSTS"q | Josh Brown/ZUMAPRESS/Newscom
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When you've caused a problem, deflect! At least, that seems to be the strategy of Vice President and Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris, who spent the last several years as part of an administration that presided over a growing mismatch between Americans' pay and the cost of living. Rather than take responsibility for the decline of the dollar's purchasing power, she blames businesses that were forced to raise prices as a result. And she wants to fix the problem she helped cause by restricting those prices, never mind the inevitable consequences for the availability of goods and services.

Wait, I Thought This Was an Economy To Be Proud Of?

First though, let's journey back to 2023 when Harris claimed to be proud of the state of the economy.

"That is called Bidenomics, and we are very proud of Bidenomics," she insisted last August in a speech where she also trumpeted, "the unemployment rate is near its lowest level in over half a century. Wages are up. Inflation has fallen 12 months in a row."

Now though, the vice president and would-be chief executive huffs, "When I am President, it will be a day one priority to bring down prices. I'll take on big corporations that engage in illegal price gouging and corporate landlords that unfairly raise rents on working families."

And that's exactly what she proposed in her speech last week which recognized concerns over the cost of living and included a host of schemes for greater government involvement in the economy, including "the first ever federal ban on price gouging on food" amidst worries over grocery bills.

It's nice that Harris recognized Americans' concerns over making ends meet. Less nice, though, was pretending that cost concerns are a result of mean corporations rather than bad policy. Also not so nice is her insistence on doubling down on bad policy with even worse cost controls.

Let's emphasize that there's little doubt government policy is at the root of inflation.

Government Officials Should Get the Blame for Those High Prices

"Inflation comes when aggregate demand exceeds aggregate supply," wrote economist John Cochrane of the Hoover Institution and the Cato Institute in a March piece for the International Monetary Fund. "The source of demand is not hard to find: in response to the pandemic's dislocations, the US government sent about $5 trillion in checks to people and businesses, $3 trillion of it newly printed money, with no plans for repayment."

"Fiscal stimulus boosted the consumption of goods without any noticeable impact on production, increasing excess demand pressures in good markets," admitted the Federal Reserve Board of Governors as early as July 2022. "As a result, fiscal support contributed to price tensions."

Even Jim Tankersley and Jeanna Smialek of The New York Times, a paper which almost reflexively supports Democrats, concede "most economists" say that factors including "snarled supply chains, a sudden shift in consumer buying patterns, and the increased customer demand fueled by stimulus from the government and low rates from the Federal Reserve…are far more responsible than corporate behavior for the rise in prices."

And the rise in prices is substantial. The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistic's inflation calculator shows that in July 2024, it took $120.25 to buy what $100 purchased in January 2021 when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris took office. That's on average; some sectors have seen greater or lesser inflation.

What Price Gouging?

Especially when it comes to groceries, it's difficult to make a case for "price gouging." A New York University Stern School of Business annual survey shows a net profit margin of 1.18 percent for retail grocery stores last year. That's down a bit from when the Biden administration took office (you can check annual data here). Kroger, the industry giant that is frequently portrayed as a greedy bogeyman, recently enjoyed a slightly higher net profit margin of 1.43 percent; over the last 15 years, its profits briefly reached as high as 3.02 percent in 2018. (The Cato Institute's Scott Lincicome does a good dive into food-industry economics on X.)

So much for Harris's deflection. But then there's her scheme for price controls to address the higher prices brought by government policy. Such controls have such a well-documented track record that they heap stupidity onto Harris's dishonesty.

A History of Price Control Failures

In 2022, when inflation was surging and the dollar's declining purchasing power had many Americans looking for the sort of "solutions" that Harris now offers, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis economist Christopher J. Neely pointed out that schemes for government-imposed price controls date back to the Code of Hammurabi and "have costs whose severity depends on the broadness of the control and the degree to which it changes the price from the free-market price."

Free market prices, he emphasized, "allocate scarce goods and services to buyers who are most willing and able to pay for them" and "signal that a good is valued and that producers can profit by increasing the quantity supplied." In the absence of such allocation and signals, you get shortages of goods and services. With grocery stores, that means empty shelves—little to buy at the controlled prices.

There's more to it than that. Neely pointed out that you also get cheapened goods to reduce production costs, gamesmanship to get around rules, and black markets that entirely defy the law. He recommended that "price controls should stay in the history books."

The Washington Post editorial board, usually as protective of Democrats as the Times, agrees. It pointed out that Harris didn't define what constituted the "excessive" profits she wanted to target and that "thankfully, this gambit by Ms. Harris has been met with almost instant skepticism, with many critics citing President Richard M. Nixon's failed price controls from the 1970s."

From the Code of Hammurabi to former President Nixon, with a detour for the Roman Emperor Diocletian—who, economist John Cochrane notes, torpedoed production and trade with price restrictions—such controls have been irresistible for government officials. That's because bad economics all too often makes for good—or, at least, effective—public relations. People who tell pollsters they think corporations are raking in 36 percent profits (the real average across industries is closer to 8 percent) can be convinced by clever politicians that they're being ripped off and need government intervention.

What politicians won't admit is that it's their own policies that put the public in distress to begin with, and that their latest schemes, if implemented, will make matters worse.

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  1. Kungpowderfinger   10 months ago

    Kamala Harris' Dishonest and Stupid Price Control Proposal

    Nothing to worry about, Walz will convince Harris and her administration to mind their own damn business.

    1. CE   10 months ago

      And set up a tip line to report people who aren't minding their own business.

  2. Longtobefree   10 months ago

    I strongly disagree with the headline.
    It is not at all dishonest. The democrats have just stopped pretending, and now are open about their plans for a totalitarian rule.
    And far from stupid, price controls are the fastest way to complete control of the economy, and therefore the citizens.

    Remember, remember, the 5th of November .

    1. Overt   10 months ago

      It's dishonest because 1) they know price gouging isn't the cause of the inflation and 2) they know price controls won't fix the economy. Yes, they are singing a different tune, but the Mask of "We're just trying to help" is still on.

      1. HorseConch   10 months ago

        They just keep becoming less believable. I'm sure it plays with the cultists. But how many people watch the VP that served as a tie-breaking vote on some of the bills causing it talk about how bad things are without assigning any blame to her?

      2. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

        It’s not price gouging, it’s now called “ price gauging”, because she can’t read a teleprompter either.

    2. Old Engineer   10 months ago

      Better remember the 9th of November:

      Napoleon becomes Emperor 1799
      Beer Hall Putch by Adolf Hitler 1923
      Kristallnacht 1938
      Great Northeast Blackout 1965

      One good point: November 9th 1989, the day the Berlin Wall came down.

      Vote counting should end around the 9th. Will Harris proclaim a New America on November 9th? Or will Harris’ Great Wall of Lies come down?

    3. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      It’s time to get rid of them. No more Marxists.

  3. Homer Thompson   10 months ago

    if you don't like price controls maybe you will like land reform and reparations

    1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   10 months ago

      I'm sure Harris backed price controls will do amazing things to rent costs.

      1. Quo Usque Tandem   10 months ago

        And just think of what this will do for the homeless industry! Billions more to "address the problem," no good outcomes foreseen or expected.

      2. CE   10 months ago

        Just like giving home buyers 25K will drive down home prices.

      3. Strider   10 months ago

        You are correct. A tent alongside the freeway is a lot cheaper than a house.

  4. CindyF   10 months ago

    How about instead of price controls on grocery stores making tiny profits, we just cut income taxes instead?

    The federal gov’t is taking 28-35% of our paychecks

    Grocery store are making 2% profit to give us food.

    Who is the greedy one here?

    Some voters will recognize that Harris's economic policies are a disaster, but vote for her anyway due to their desire to kill babies. They believe that if Harris is elected she can wave a magic wand and make abortion legal across the nation up to the moment of birth. Some voters, possibly the majority of voters, are truly stupid.

    1. SQRLSY   10 months ago

      Yes, some are stupid enough to believe Kamala's economically illiterate lies.

      The other main choice is Trump's lies! Trump says abortionists kill the already-born now, https://www.al.com/news/2024/06/trump-lies-about-abortions-after-birth-during-biden-debate.html , During the debate, Donald Trump inaccurately referred to abortions “after birth.” He has previously falsely claimed states were passing legislation “where you can execute that baby after birth.”

      "Truth" is SOOOOO yesterday! An obsolete idea!

      1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

        Truth is determined not by what is said, but by who is saying it.

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

          Poor sarc.

          1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

            Pour Sarc indeed. And about a quart of the cheapest rotgut bottom shelf swill he can find.

            He’s gotta stretch that welfare check for a whole month of binge drinking.

      2. Spinach Chin   10 months ago

        Sure sure. You people are so easily gaslit.

        https://nypost.com/2024/08/08/us-news/undercover-video-allegedly-shows-planned-parenthood-scandal/

        "A pro-life activist investigated for criminal activity by then-California Attorney General Kamala Harris in 2015 released undercover footage Tuesday showing Planned Parenthood executives apparently discussing the sale of body parts from late-term fetuses, some of which had been delivered alive and mostly intact."

        1. SQRLSY   10 months ago

          But they weren't delivered ass whole babies (or even ass baby ass-wholes), alive, before being executed, ass per The Donald. Also note that cancers are removed from patients, while the cancers are still... ALIVE!!! AND OFTEN INTACT!!! Man the barricades!!!

    2. sarcasmic   10 months ago

      Grocery stores make 2%, but the state gets three times that in sales tax.

      1. Overt   10 months ago

        I pointed that out to someone once, and they responded, “Yeah but Government gives us Schools and Roads for the 8%. How would you feel if private companies took that over?”

        I responded, "Now you're talking!" I really think they expected me to see the privatization of these things as a bad thing.

        1. n00bdragon   10 months ago

          Not to mention there already are private schools and private (toll) roads. As someone who lives next to a perpetually under-construction public highway and a well-maintained toll road, I think private roads would be just fine.

        2. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

          Remember when grocery stores were the heroes of the pandemic?

          1. Old Engineer   10 months ago

            When avaricious grocery store owners, obsessed with filthy lucre, sent their wage slaves to face almost certain death.

            Just giving the Harris' campaign a jump start to more lies.

        3. Its_Not_Inevitable   10 months ago

          And we get food, etc in a free and voluntary trade with the grocery stores. WTF do they think happens when government takes over the distribution of food?

      2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

        Yet you defend democrats with every drunken breath.

    3. CE   10 months ago

      The ones yelling "greed" the loudest are always those who want to get their hands on other peoples' money without earning it.

    4. Strider   10 months ago

      Democrats have two issues that will get them elected. 1- Abortion; 2- What an awful person Trump is. Americans will follow along like Lemmings to the sea.

    5. John C. Randolph   10 months ago

      Grocery store are making 2% profit to give us food.

      And just like gasoline, government makes more in taxes than the vendor makes in profit to supply our needs.

      -jcr

  5. R Mac   10 months ago

    Yeah but Trump!

    — sarc

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      I'm just curious what excuse Jeff is going to make to cover for this like he was yesterday.

    2. n00bdragon   10 months ago

      Are you getting preemptively mad about someone else getting preemptively mad?

      Someone might get preemptively mad about that.

      1. R Mac   10 months ago

        Not mad at all. Sarc makes me laugh. He’s got me muted, and sometimes when I do this he ends up posting something similar afterwards.

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

          I don’t believe he muted anyone. He just says he does. He’s desperate for our attention. Jesse’s attention more than anyone else.

  6. Quo Usque Tandem   10 months ago

    I don't know; reading the NYT morning briefing today Harris has now embraced patriotism while those insurrectionist Republicans are all just terrible.

    Happy happy happy joy joy joy, the new and improved Biden administration is going to take care of all of your problems and make everything good.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      Was that before or after they lied doxxed some news and sent their details to anti Israel groups?

  7. JohannesDinkle   10 months ago

    During the 1973 oil embargo President Nixon placed price controls on gasoline and diesel. Faced with selling at a loss, oil companies reduced production, which decreased efficiency in refineries, adding to the loss per gallon but less loss per day. Less gasoline made, shortages at the pump, leading to lines.
    If Harris intends to control chicken prices, we will see Tyson buying fewer chicks, leading to eventual shortages of chicken at the store. Others will make similar choices.

    1. Quo Usque Tandem   10 months ago

      "It's funny, sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is, that people are lining up for food. That is a good thing! In other countries people don't line up for food: the rich get the food and the poor starve to death." Bernie Sanders, as Mayor of Burlington VT

      You have to remember that this is the mentality of who we're dealing with; the same guy who defended Castro's regime as "a revolution of values." They just want to be in control, by any means necessary.

      1. CE   10 months ago

        The country with the rich getting the food and the poor starving to death is the same country where the poor line up for food though.

        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   10 months ago

          At least when you see food lines you know there's food.

          1. Stuck in California   10 months ago

            You know there MIGHT be food. If you get in line early enough and the delivery happens.

    2. Michael Ejercito   10 months ago

      Some would point out that California has price controls on plastic bags and yet there are not long lines to buy plastic bags.

      1. JohannesDinkle   10 months ago

        The bags used to be free; now they must be paid for. Who lines up to pay for something that used to be free?

      2. BYODB   10 months ago

        It's a bit disingenuous to call what California does a 'price control' when it's more like an outright ban.

      3. Overt   10 months ago

        Economist: If you artificially LOWER the selling price of a good, it leads to shortages.

        "Some" People: Oh yeah? California artificially RAISED the price of bags and and they don't have shortages.

        Economist: Your parents are siblings, aren't they?

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

          ^+1.

        2. Quo Usque Tandem   10 months ago

          Well done.

    3. Old Engineer   10 months ago

      Something has to be done about Chick Fil A. No more chicken, no more religious fanatics who close on Sunday.

    4. Overt   10 months ago

      It can also result in increased prices. If the government institutes price ceilings, then certainly you will see shortages. But if they follow the Obamacare model, they will instead mandate a Profit Ceiling. "You can only earn 2% profit." As we have seen with health insurance companies, if you are guaranteed a 2% profit margin, then the only way to increase income is to...let the price of goods increase, so that 2% represents a larger amount of money.

      1. Minadin   10 months ago

        It's amazing to me how many people don't realize this. They removed the incentive to create efficiencies and instead created an incentive for bloat.

    5. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

      "During the 1973 oil embargo President Nixon placed price controls on gasoline and diesel. Faced with selling at a loss, oil companies reduced production, which decreased efficiency in refineries, adding to the loss per gallon but less loss per day. Less gasoline made, shortages at the pump, leading to lines..."

      He also closed the gold window, and the near-eastern economies were (and still are?) gold-based.
      Wanna see how much the price of oil 'soared'? Compare the dollar-to-gold rate before and after Nixon did that.
      Nope; the oil remained at pretty much fixed in gold-valuation; it was the reduction in the value of the dollar which caused the $30/bbl to $100/bbl "rise".

    6. Strider   10 months ago

      Do you think we'll have even and odd days we can buy chicken?

    7. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      So much easier to get rid of the democrats than risk starving to death because of their Marxist idiocy.

  8. Yuno Hoo   10 months ago

    The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistic's inflation calculator shows that in July 2024, it took $120.25 to buy what $100 purchased in January 2021

    Just wait for the Nuevo Dollar. In July 2026, it'll take $15 to buy what $100 purchased in January 2021.

    1. CE   10 months ago

      And the real answer is more like $150.

      1. Stuck in California   10 months ago

        Yeah, once you remove substitution in the cost of living numbers, I'd buy that. Certainly for food and a few other core items we can't get away from.

    2. Minadin   10 months ago

      In January 2021, $100 bought me 60 gallons of gasoline.

      In July 2024, 60 gallons of gasoline would cost me $210.

      At one point, in July of 2022, it would have cost me over $300.

  9. Mickey Rat   10 months ago

    You have in play the Left's long tradition of blaming the failures of their magical thinking in economics on private malefactors, that is, the "greedy" corporations, wreckers and kulaks.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    Her old man was a Marxist.

    1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

      Politics is hereditary. That's why we need to keep immigrants out.

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

        Must you bring literally everything back to your immigration strawmen?

      2. CE   10 months ago

        Maybe it is. My parents voted Libertarian in 1980.

    2. Bipedal Humanoid   10 months ago

      Is. He's still alive and unrepentant.

    3. shadydave   10 months ago

      Still is

  11. Uomo Del Ghiaccio   10 months ago

    Are you completely sure that Vice President Kamala Harris supports this? It's not in the extensive list of platform positions on the official campaign web site. Will the Kamala Harris of 8/20/2024 believe in the positions the Kamala Harris took on 8/17/2025. Remember that Vice President Kamala Harris is unburdened from the past so she can be what can be.

    1. CE   10 months ago

      When you abandon cause and effect, anything is possible.

      1. Old Engineer   10 months ago

        Especially when there's a memory hole financed and operated by Google, Facebook, WAPO, New York Times, MSNBC, NPR, ABC, CBS and NBC

        In a week, Kamala Harris will have no existence prior to July, 2024, at least no political existence.

    2. Strider   10 months ago

      Sounds like a description of the Pied Piper.

  12. sarcasmic   10 months ago

    Trump supporters left furious after ex-president's unexpected policy: 'He's lost my vote'

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13754947/donald-trump-immigration-legal-migrants-speech.html

    'Basically, we're going to drill, baby drill, get the energy prices down, almost immediately, we're going to close the border and get the bad ones out,' the Republican began. 'And we're gonna let a lot of people come in.'

    Is it opposite day?

    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

      Opposite day would be when you make a post that makes sense.

      1. Thoritsu   10 months ago

        HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      2. Wally   10 months ago

        Wait. That means we're never getting opposite day. 🙁

      3. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

        Or represents a model of sobriety.

    2. CE   10 months ago

      He said that 8 years ago too. He was going to build a big, beautiful wall, with a nice golden door to let in the people he wants to let in.

      1. Old Engineer   10 months ago

        He favors merit based immigration as do many countries.

        1. VULGAR MADMAN   10 months ago

          You mean he’s not a racist?
          Reason would never lie to us!

    3. Rick James   10 months ago

      So... Trump supporters don't still vote for him no matter what?

      Fuck, this is confrusing.

  13. sarcasmic   10 months ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13755969/Suki-Waterhouse-thanks-Taylor-Swift-Eras-Tour-Wembley.html

    Suki Waterhouse thanks pal Taylor Swift for a 'once in a lifetime opportunity' in a gushing post as she shares behind the scenes snaps after opening for the superstar at Wembley

    One thing is for certain. TS ain't gonna be upstaged by that trainwreck.

  14. sarcasmic   10 months ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13757355/Woman-allegedly-filmed-performing-sex-act-live-brown-TROUT-boat-faces-court.html

    Woman who was allegedly filmed performing a sex act with a live brown TROUT on a boat faces court

    What the...

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

      Should have used a mud shark.

      1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

        Like one of the Kardashians?

  15. sarcasmic   10 months ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13755367/Liberal-media-stunned-voter-responses-despite-propaganda-effort-Kamala.html

    Liberal media stunned by voter responses despite their 'propaganda' effort to back Kamala

    It's all about the sample.

  16. TD   10 months ago

    You can cite examples over and over of why tight price controls don’t work and cause more problems than they solve, if they solve any. You can present the arguments over and over. But, there is not a politician in the world who doesn’t think, if it hasn’t worked in the past it’s only because it wasn’t me doing the controlling.

    1. TJJ2000   10 months ago

      STEALING works – until the zero-sum game comes to a zero-supply end.
      Realizing that explains every horror of Communism and Socialism.
      STEALING stuff doesn’t create it.

      ...and it certainly is the very opposite of Liberty and Justice.
      What a government should adhere to be doing.

      What to do when the monopoly of 'guns' starts working for criminal [WE] gangs.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

      As proven by the grease-ball Newsom assuming he can run the CA economy and finding out he can't.
      And now lying about it.

  17. TJJ2000   10 months ago

    “illegal price gouging”???? WTF?
    “When” … Democrats … “caused a problem” … they “deflect!” (self-project).

    Point & Case:
    Harris *illegally* (by the Supreme Law of the Land) proposes [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism] in the USA and calls everything else (capitalism) “illegal”.

    The left is nothing but criminal minds scamming, scheming and destroying what this country fought for.

    They are correctly identified as foreign (non-USA) traitors attempting to conquer the nation and really should all be in prison not serving powerful positions in D.C.

    ...but what's a nation to do when citizens elect Al'Capone mentalities to fill Sheriff positions (hut hum; Oath of Office) who do nothing but make promises to STEAL illegally for them???

  18. Thoritsu   10 months ago

    What Executive power is Giggles going to use to accomplish this totalitarian regulation?

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

      The one that ignores SCOTUS.

      Biden said he could not do student loan forgiveness that it would be up to Congress. The Speaker of the House agreed. But Biden did it anyway. Then SCOTUS agreed and said it would be up to Congress.

      All three branches concurred that the president could not do it. But Biden is still trying to do it.

    2. Old Engineer   10 months ago

      Surveillance, powered by Google, Facebook and the FBI. Then, SWAT teams and detention centers. It's simple, just ask Trudeau and Starmer. They're years ahead of the US in establishing control of the populace. Maybe there's a few old Stasi agents to offer advice.

      1. CE   10 months ago

        Bitcoin was a problem for Trudeau when he tried to starve the truckers out of their protest. Hello, crypto-Dollar.

        1. Old Engineer   10 months ago

          Roosevelt confiscated all the gold in the US (except some jewelry) and is hailed today as the man who ended the depression instead o of the man who deepened and extended the Great Depression.

          If there is a way to confiscate Bitcoin, I'm sure that the Harris administration will do it. It will depend on whether Americans are willing to fight back.

  19. Bruce Hayden   10 months ago

    The basic problem is that inflation is a monetary problem. Always has been. It’s not greedy businesses price gouging, but greedy politicians spending significantly more money than they bring in through taxes, which has to be funded through borrowing. Deficit spending. And when the Chinese (etc) quit buying our debt, it had to be purchased by the Federal Reserve, increasing the money supply. MV=PQ. The Obama/Biden Administration has overseen massive amounts of deficit spending. The bill for it is coming due.

    1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

      Inflation is defined by economists as a general increase in prices.

      It is almost always caused by monetary policy. Almost. It can have other causes, like a decrease in the supply of goods relative to the supply of money. Post-covid inflation was caused by a combination of that thanks to lockdowns, and an increase in the supply of money thanks in part to checks with the president's name on them.
      Another way to cause inflation is by using tariffs to increase the price of imports and the price of goods made from imports.

      But the thing to remember is that inflation is defined by prices, and can have many causes.

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

        ""Another way to cause inflation is by using tariffs""

        Like this?

        https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/05/14/fact-sheet-president-biden-takes-action-to-protect-american-workers-and-businesses-from-chinas-unfair-trade-practices/

        1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

          Yup. Just like that. Doesn’t matter which party does it, it has the same effect. You do know that Trump promises to do it more and harder, right? And I’ll bet money that when he does, his deranged supporters will defend him with attacks. Just like they did before Biden was elected. But then they stopped. Just like the war protesters who evaporated when Obama was elected. No principles whatsoever.

          1. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

            ""Trump promises to do it more and harder, right?""

            Does he? Please site.

            1. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

              I'm not even trying to defend Trump. I just think you made that statement up because you hate the guy.

              1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                Google “Trump more tariffs” and pick a source that you aren’t prejudiced against.

                1. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

                  It was your statement. The onus is on you. Give me something that is equal to what I gave you. Something not an opinion.

                  1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                    https://time.com/6972022/donald-trump-transcript-2024-election/

                    Let’s shift to the economy, sir. You have floated a 10% tariff on all imports, and a more than 60% tariff on Chinese imports. Can I just ask you now: Is that your plan?

                    Trump: It may be more than that. It may be a derivative of that. A derivative of that. But it will be somebody—look when they come in and they steal our jobs, and they steal our wealth, they steal our country.

                    When you say more than that, though: You mean maybe more than 10% on all imports?

                    Trump: More than 10%, yeah. I call it a ring around the country. We have a ring around the country. A reciprocal tax also, in addition to what we said. And if we do that, the numbers are staggering. I don’t believe it will have much of an effect because they’re making so much money off of us. I also don’t believe that the costs will go up that much. And a lot of people say, “Oh, that’s gonna be a tax on us.” I don’t believe that. I think it’s a tax on the country that’s doing it.

                    Not only does he propose an across-the-board 10% tariff on all imports and 60% on Chinese imports, but he doesn’t believe it’s a tax on consumers. His own words.

                  2. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                    This is the part where you apologize for calling me a liar. Ha ha! Just kidding. I know you won't.

                    1. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

                      Did you read the post from the Whitehouse?

                      “” You have floated a 10% tariff on all imports, and a more than 60% tariff on Chinese imports. Can I just ask you now: Is that your plan?””

                      The Whitehouse memo is about Chinese tariffs too.
                      Every Biden increase was greater than 10%. Some up to 100%

                      The tariff rate on semiconductors will increase from 25% to 50% by 2025.

                      The tariff rate on electric vehicles under Section 301 will increase from 25% to 100% in 2024.

                      The tariff rate on lithium-ion EV batteries will increase from 7.5%% to 25% in 2024, while the tariff rate on lithium-ion non-EV batteries will increase from 7.5% to 25% in 2026. The tariff rate on battery parts will increase from 7.5% to 25% in 2024.

                      The tariff rate on natural graphite and permanent magnets will increase from zero to 25% in 2026. The tariff rate for certain other critical minerals will increase from zero to 25% in 2024.

                      The tariff rate on solar cells (whether or not assembled into modules) will increase from 25% to 50% in 2024.

                      The tariff rate on ship-to-shore cranes will increase from 0% to 25% in 2024.

                      The tariff rates on syringes and needles will increase from 0% to 50% in 2024. For certain personal protective equipment (PPE), including certain respirators and face masks, the tariff rates will increase from 0–7.5% to 25% in 2024. Tariffs on rubber medical and surgical gloves will increase from 7.5% to 25% in 2026.

                    2. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

                      Biden did a good job of out Trumping Trump on Chinese tariffs.

                    3. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                      Did you miss the part where I said Biden’s tariffs suck too? It was up there when I said it doesn't matter which party does it. Must I spell it out?

                      B I D E N ‘ S    T A R I F F S   S U C K    T O O

                      Know what I missed? Trump defenders praising Biden’s tariffs. Know why? They weren’t defending tariffs.

                    4. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

                      ""Did you miss the part where I said Biden’s tariffs suck too? ""

                      But you seem to complain more about Trump. Even though Trump hasn't done it to the level of Biden, yet.

                    5. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                      I’ve called out Biden’s tariffs whenever the subject has come up. But that doesn’t matter. Ain't just Harris being stupid and dishonest.

                      Fuck off Jesse Jr.

                    6. TJJ2000   10 months ago

                      Ironically your both talking in stupidity circles.

                      Bruce, “but greedy politicians spending significantly more money than they bring in through taxes”

                      Of which a Tariff is but just a Tax.
                      So part of the equation is Taxes raise costs but spending more than Taxing raises costs also. All be darn; money doesn’t grow on trees. /s

                    7. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

                      "...Did you miss the part where I said Biden’s tariffs suck too?..."

                      No, you slimy pile of lefty shit; your meaningless virtue-signaling is noted and ignored.
                      FOAD, asshole

          2. Wally   10 months ago

            Not popular here, but tariffs imposed by Trump on Chinese goods were sound policy. The Biden administration keeping, and in some cases increasing them is also sound policy. Becoming dependent on an enemy is unwise. The tariff policy has resulted in business going to Vietnam and Mexico. Vietnam fears China and Mexico is a neighbor. Improving their economy helps us in many ways. All at very little actual cost. I'd like to see more progress in getting pharmaceutical production back in the US. I'd be happy to pay more in order to ensure we can make our own when we need to.
            Tariffs are not the most efficient way to accomplish this. Requiring any product imported into the US to be produced under equivalent regulations (environmental and labor for example), would solve this faster, but that requires legislation.

            1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

              None of that improves our economy.

              1. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

                Tariffs do if they work. The first step is easy. Apply the tariff. The second step is where American companies become the go to because they are more affordable. I'm not really seeing the second part. And the government has been doing a great job of handing out millions to companies shutting their doors.

                Are we paying more taxes via the tariffs or more to companies closing their doors?

                1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                  That second part is called rent seeking.

              2. TJJ2000   10 months ago

                You know what else doesn’t improve [our] economy??
                Taxing DOMESTIC at 80%.

                At least Trump has the good sense to Tax-Cut Domestic while increasing Taxes on foreign markets. It takes Democrat-stupidity to keep raising Taxes on both markets and pretend it's helping.

      2. Old Engineer   10 months ago

        "Inflation is defined by economists as a general increase in prices."

        Yes, but not always. Prior to Keynes, inflation was defined as increasing the money supply by printing worthless fiat currency or, as a Roman emperor did, recalling all the coins and stamping 2's over the 1's.

        The effect, rising prices, became so closely connected to the inflated currency, that the effect assumed the name of the cause.

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

      ""The bill for it is coming due.""

      I've been hearing that for decades. I think the interesting question is what will the conversation be when the interest payments become our number one yearly expense.

      1. CE   10 months ago

        It's almost there already. 35 trillion in debt at 4% would be 1.4 trillion per year. Luckily there are still some old bonds out there that only pay 2%.

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

          Yep, we are not far from it.

          I expect to hear from some groups that the interest is an investment in people therefore ok to be the #1 expenditure.

      2. TJJ2000   10 months ago

        I do believe people working 60hrs a week just to cover shelter and food says the bill is already getting collected one way or the other.

        These same stupid people think "borrowing" more is somehow going to magically get them more ?free? sh*t when really it just makes their own labors worthless.

    3. CE   10 months ago

      The Bush/Obama/Trump/Biden Administration has overseen massive amounts of deficit spending.

      FTFY

      1. TJJ2000   10 months ago

        At least the [R] party kept their deficits under $1T.
        Which can't be said of the [D] party; not even close.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

          Fatass Donnie hit peak deficit at $3.5 trillion in 2020.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

            turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

            Hey, shit-for-brains:
            "This Is What Biden Has Done to Increase the National Debt by Nearly $5 Trillion"
            https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/this-is-what-biden-has-done-to-increase-the-national-debt-by-nearly-5-trillion/ss-AA1oC9Sb?ocid=BingNewsSerp

            Your fave demented asshole has upped it to ~$8Tn! Good job there, turd.

          3. TJJ2000   10 months ago

            Which is really the [D]-House pitch/pass.
            Try your BS games when taking into account trifecta's (congress).
            Deception is all your selling.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

        Stuff you "both sides" up your ass, shitpile.

  20. Dillinger   10 months ago

    appreciate the headline and attitude but the proposal is not dishonest it is (finally) an unmasking.

    1. CE   10 months ago

      The New York Times, Washington Post and CNN got the go-ahead to criticize the plan, so Reason felt emboldened to criticize it even harder.

      1. Dillinger   10 months ago

        what comes after beta in the pecking order?

  21. BYODB   10 months ago

    Don’t worry, I’m sure that if Democrats raise the minimum wage to $100 an hour it’ll solve their little inflation problem!

    /s

    I mean, we all knew Kamala was an idiot. It appears reporters for the Times and the Post are just now realizing this fact.

    I’m sure Kamala will walk all this back and pretend like it never happened, and those same reporters will probably just go along with that ‘because Trump is uniquely dangerous’ despite the observable fact that Kamala just suggested Soviet policy as a ‘solution’ in the United States. Aren’t the left telling us we should be scared of Soviets? Huh…it’s almost like they have no principles whatsoever.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

      "...I’m sure Kamala will walk all this back and pretend like it never happened..."
      And giggle about it when someone asks.

    2. middlefinger   10 months ago

      No. She is a communist and her handlers are coming out and proud: headline “Bring American Communists out of the shadows ”

      https://jacobin.com/2024/08/communists-san-francisco-lgbt-race

  22. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

    “” It appears reporters for the Times and the Post are just now realizing this fact.””

    Consider how long it to them to “realize” Biden's cognitive issues.

    1. CE   10 months ago

      You mean they got approval from the DNC to criticize the plan, since the people really calling the shots don't want communism, even if Harris/Walz do.

  23. Use the Schwartz   10 months ago

    It's okay, it'll be some other idiotic "plan" in a week for Kamala Chameleon.

  24. Tiger   10 months ago

    Kamala has no intention of imposing any price controls or ending taxes on tips. She's a phony trying to buy votes from all sides!

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   10 months ago

      ^ Most likely true.

    2. Old Engineer   10 months ago

      My vote is up for sale, starting price $1000,000 and a get out of jail free card. (Kamala? Are you listening?)

  25. CE   10 months ago

    It's funny watching the media get the green light from the DNC to criticize the Harris economic plan. Almost as if the corporate oligarchs running the DNC are shocked that when they back a communist to stop a populist, they end up with communist proposals.

  26. Wizzle Bizzle   10 months ago

    I don't know if the Reason staff are finally reading the comments, or more likely their limited clicks are dwindling. But the sudden shift in editorial decision to actually report how terrible Kackles & Co are on economic issues is so jarring as to be hilarious.

    1. Old Engineer   10 months ago

      So long as Reason wants to stay in DC, truth will be a threat.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

      The still haven't gotten around to Hunter Biden's (now documented) influence-peddling.
      Not a popular subject in the swamp; almost as if Trump is correct.

  27. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

    But TRUMP!!!!!!, right Tuccille?

  28. Uncle Jay   10 months ago

    "Stupid" and "dishonest" is what the proggies are all about.

  29. Wally   10 months ago

    Democrats want to destroy the country. It's a solid plan in accordance with that objective.

  30. fredgrosso   10 months ago

    This is ridiculous. People have money to buy goods, so this is causing inflation. Businesses aren't making profits they cannot keep up with demand. If you believe this you are stupid enough to be a libertarian.

    1. TJJ2000   10 months ago

      Talk about stupid. HELLO! Anybody home? Too many fake-dollars chasing too few products is what causes inflation dumb*ss and that is the direct result from making money out of nothing (un-earned) as well as STEALING everyone’s labor to a degree because their earnings diminishes.

      Typical greedy selfish leftard who thinks the whole world revolves around their DEMANDS–side-only economics.

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