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Joe Biden

Weekend at Biden's

Plus: Trump immunity ruling, cosmopolitan thinking on immigration, cringe Kamala, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 7.2.2024 9:30 AM

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Who's really running the show? Following President Joe Biden's abysmal performance at Thursday's debate, press coverage has sought to investigate how exactly Biden's cognitive decline got this bad without it becoming a major scandal earlier. The story Politico has offered: Biden's public appearances are so tightly controlled by his shrinking inner circle, which has been running interference for him as his mind atrophies.

"The number of people who have access to the president has gotten smaller and smaller and smaller. They've been digging deeper into the bunker for months now," a Democratic strategist in a critical battleground state told Politico. Some of those people include senior adviser Anita Dunn (who advocated for the early debate, in a break with tradition) and Ron Klain, Biden's former chief of staff who handled the debate prep, as well as Bob Bauer, Dunn's husband and Biden's personal lawyer.

("To their allies, the two are loyal and steely under fire," says The New York Times of Dunn and Bauer. "To their critics, the couple—and Ms. Dunn in particular—are the embodiment of Mr. Biden's affinity for revolving-door Washington operatives who move back and forth between high-powered political jobs and lucrative corporate clients.")

"It's the same people," one Democratic operative told Politico. "He has not changed those people for 40 years." Of course, it's not uncommon for career politicians to have close advisers who have worked with them for decades, whose judgment they trust. What is confusing is that the president's enablers seem unable to sound the alarms that Biden is a bad candidate to run, ill-suited to the job ahead, and that their inability to do so has seemingly sabotaged the Democratic party, leaving it without a nominee who can beat former President Donald Trump.

It feels like a Weekend at Bernie's situation—advisers are the ones actually running the show, not the person we've elected. (Using we generously, as I certainly played no part in electing this guy.)

Immunity ruling handed down: Yesterday, the Supreme Court handed down a 6-3 ruling in the presidential immunity case. "A President inclined to take one course of action based on the public interest may instead opt for another, apprehensive that criminal penalties may befall him upon his departure from office," wrote Chief Justice John Roberts for the majority. "And if a former President's official acts are routinely subjected to scrutiny in criminal prosecutions, 'the independence of the Executive Branch' may be significantly undermined."

Do not read this as a victory for Trump, though. The ruling was a thoroughly mixed bag. "The Court held that a former president enjoys 'absolute' immunity for 'actions within his exclusive constitutional power,' 'presumptive' immunity for other 'official acts,' and no immunity for unofficial acts," writes Reason's Jacob Sullum. At the same time, the Court swatted away Trump's argument—"that former presidents can be prosecuted for 'official acts' only if they are first impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate based on the same conduct," writes Sullum, following Trump's federal prosecution for his election-overturning attempts—and remanded the case to U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

Hard to delineate: There are disagreements between the justices as to what type of presidential behavior falls into each category, and thus is granted or denied immunity. For example, "Trump tried to persuade state officials that the election results had been tainted by systematic fraud, and his campaign enlisted 'alternate' electors whom he wanted state legislators to recognize instead of the Biden slates," writes Sullum. Was that Trump "trying to ensure the integrity of a federal election" and thus operating in an official capacity? Or was that Trump undermining the election results, operating in his own political self-interest as a candidate, not as a president fulfilling his official duties?

"Supreme Court's Trump immunity ruling poses risk for democracy, experts say," reads a Washington Post headline from yesterday. (The Washington Post declares democracy at risk every four days, so it's hard to take seriously.) Nothing about this ruling was particularly unexpected, but to give credit where due, there are some hypotheticals dismissed by Roberts that could present major problems: Justice Sonia Sotomayor previewed some of these in her dissent, writing, "Orders the Navy's Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune."

She continued: "The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law."

Justice Amy Coney Barrett issued a partial concurrence that perhaps strikes the best balance, agreeing with the majority but offering some additional wisdom: "Properly conceived, the President's constitutional protection from prosecution is narrow."


Scenes from New York: Illegal immigrants who have come to New York, frequently seeking asylum after harrowing journeys, now get pre-loaded debit cards to buy food, costing the city $2.6 million to feed 7,300 migrants over the next six months. "City officials say the program is significantly less expensive than a previous program that delivered meals, which was expected to cost about $5.6 million over the next six months," reports The New York Times. Still, one must wonder: Is there any cap to the number of non-New Yorkers that the city will use residents' taxpayer dollars to feed? Why isn't our money being used to improve public services from which we benefit?


QUICK HITS

  • "If Harris replaces Biden, we won't even get one of the key benefits we'd want from replacing our nominee: cleaning the slate and having less responsibility for the incumbent's record," writes Josh Barro at Very Serious. 
  • The head of Gaza City's Al Shifa Hospital, Mohammed Abu Salmiya, was freed Monday and returned to Gaza. He alleges that he was held in inhumane conditions and tortured by Israeli prison guards. The Israeli prison service denies these allegations while some government officials said it was "security negligence" to release this man, a sign of the government's "lawlessness and dysfunction."
  • Hurricane Beryl has strengthened into a Category 5 and is barreling toward Jamaica right now.
  • "There is a longstanding debate—for centuries in fact—as to whether you should consider only your national (or regional) interest, or whether you should think in cosmopolitan terms when evaluating policies with cross-national ramifications," writes Tyler Cowen at Marginal Revolution. "Some commentators, for instance, suggest that American immigration policy should be set to serve the interests of current American citizens only. But what if an American is evaluating a French decision to take in or exclude some potential Algerian migrants? You might think the French should take a French point of view, and that the Algerians should take an Algerian point of view. But is the American allowed to be cosmopolitan in his judgment?"
  • Possibly the most cringe thing I've ever seen. Proceed with caution.
  • Yes:

This reminds me of the thing @mcmoynihan has been saying about how you can tell these people are full of shit when they don't just say "he's not that bad" but instead say "he's the most lucid President ever! More physically agile than a 26 year old! Wittier than Dorothy Parker!" https://t.co/YCD4t4sE5s

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    Who's really running the show?

    Whoever it might be I think we can all agree is doing a top shelf job.

    1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      Top shelf you say?
      /sarc

      1. HorseConch   11 months ago

        What's that? If it ain't Colt45, it ain't worth drinking.
        /sarc

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          Monarch vodka washed down with some Boones you say?

          /Sarc

          1. Kungpowderfinger   11 months ago

            Donald Duck + Popov

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 months ago

      Of its anything like who's the boss, then mona

    3. Spiritus Mundi   11 months ago

      Why am I just learning about this!? - Reason 'editors'

      1. HorseConch   11 months ago

        I love the denial from all of these lapdogs that have been carrying the water for 5+ years. There were clear signs heading into 2020 that he was slipping, and the guy hasn't said more than a paragraph or two unscripted on camera very many times since being elected.

        They can play make believe all they want, but they knew what was going on and pretended otherwise. The guy literally isn't capable of working at a sheltered workshop and they kept lying about him being brilliant.

        1. Commenter_XY   11 months ago

          The question is: How do we hold them to account.

          They have deliberately lied about Drooler Joe's cognitive mess, and endangered the entire country with their arrogance.

          1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

            If we find a way to get rid of immunity for the executive, can we start with Biden who opened our borders and didnt protect the countries sovereignty, purposefully, and also everyone in the admin who hid from us that he was cognitively impaired?

            1. Ghatanathoah   11 months ago

              I don't think that Biden can be prosecuted for something that didn't happen and that he didn't do, regardless of whether he was impaired or not when he didn't do it.

              The USA has draconian immigration enforcement, and always has for decades, regardless of which party is in office. At most Biden might have changed it from "ultra draconian" to merely "super draconian." Obama put kids in cages long before Trump, the only difference is that Obama put kids in the same cage as their parents, while Trump put kids and parents in different cages. The idea that Democrats are the "open borders" party is just something Republican campaigners make up to scare their voters. The only reason it works is that the target Republican voters are old people who are in roughly the same level of cognitive decline as Joe Biden.

              I am sure you can find some people who advocate open borders and vote Democrat, but that doesn't mean anything. There are white supremacists that vote Republican, but that doesn't mean the entire party is white supremacist.

              1. docduracoat   11 months ago

                To Ghatanathoa,
                that was sarcasm, right?
                Have you seen any photos or videos of the border under Biden?
                The border patrol is now actively helping immigrants Enter the country.
                Give them airplane tickets and notices to appear at some nebulous time in the future
                It was certainly not that way under President Trump

        2. MT-Man   11 months ago

          Following President Joe Biden's abysmal performance at Thursday's debate, press coverage has sought to investigate how exactly Biden's cognitive decline got this bad without it becoming a major scandal earlier. This was seen in 2012-16. It's only a scandal to them because their gravy train is in jeopardy. This is an embarrassment that reason is entertaining this is new.

        3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          Reason has a habit of waiting until even the NYT has to admit there is an issue on most subjects. And until the NYT does admit something is wrong, Reason will attack their posters here for posting what turns out to be the correct set of information. It is pretty amazing.

          We saw this with Covid and Censorship as two huge examples.

          1. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

            That's because of the cocktail parties they want to be invited to.

            1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

              Like many things, Reason should GTFO of DC.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

                Agreed. They need to relocate, preferably well away from the coasts. I’d suggest Indy, Oklahoma City, Salt Lake, or even Cheyenne.

                1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

                  Iowa.

          2. Commenter_XY   11 months ago

            Why is Reason not talking to the Team L candidate for POTUS on a weekly basis? I thought the editors were libertarians, and that Reason was a nominally libertarian publication.

            Liz....Liz Wolfe? Are you going to 'chase' down Chase and Just Ask Questions of the Team L POTUS candidate?!

            1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

              He was on her podcast.

              1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                And embarassed himself.

        4. Social Justice is neither   11 months ago

          Just days before the debate the media was in full propaganda mode covering for Biden with "cheap fakes" despite having the source footage themselves. How any of these lying POS "journalists" can pretend to not know how the decline was covered up is falling, they just need to look in a mirror.

        5. CE   11 months ago

          In 2020, Biden hunkered down in a basement somewhere, and released a pre-recorded (and hence edited) 45-minute video about once a week. It was an unorthodox campaign, but earned him the most votes ever counted in a Presidential election. You'd think everyone would copy his strategy going forward.

      2. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

        Breaking news!

        Edit: actually, if you remember, some of them presented his reduced cognition as a reason to vote for him, explaining that having a less effective president would reduce the power of the executive. Another example of Reason staff thinking like children.

        1. Social Justice is neither   11 months ago

          Children and their imaginary friends have a better grasp on reality than Reason editors.

    4. Sometimes a Great Notion   11 months ago

      On my top shelf is a Russian nesting doll of the major Soviet Premiers...his track record might actually earn him a place with those guys.

    5. mad.casual   11 months ago

      Like that one drunk friend in the back seat giving you bad directions.

      1. Ajsloss   11 months ago

        Or the completely sober woman in the passenger seat, amirite?

        1. mad.casual   11 months ago

          My reference may've been too obscure.

  2. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

    Did you see orange Brandon last night? Can’t make this stuff up.

    1. Nardz   11 months ago

      https://x.com/AlexsandrKislov/status/1807891434789351699?t=ukCm7VFlSb2cJ3pJa0P-7g&s=19

      The fact that Hitler (and never Stalin) and Fascism (and never Communism) are always cited (even by conservatives) as evil and totalitarianism incarnate is a mark of how thoroughly the left has indoctrinated nearly everyone in our society.

      Nazism as anything other than cosplay has not existed since 1945. Being a "nazi" is a one-way trip to being unpersoned.

      Meanwhile, actual communists hold prestigious jobs, communism is still a governing force in a few nations, and gay race communism is the ethos of our regime.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

        Youre playing unto the lefts hands gere.

        Go read the speeches and essays from Mussolini. He started fascism to save socialism. Democrats want you to separate communism and fascism, yes. Communists are now celebrated. Yes. But the left also wants you to separate the two as being originally from the same ethos, just a different means of execution. They do this so they can call the right fascist and therfore connect nazis to the right.

        The correct enemy is any form of socialist control. It needs to be repeated that fascism and communism have the same goals and originate from socialism, not separate them to attack one over the other allowing the left to continue to misattribute and hide fascism.

        1. Nardz   11 months ago

          Then stop using Nazis/Hitler as the go-to slur or boogeyman, and start using communists/Stalin/Mao/Lenin.
          You want to talk about playing into the left's hands?
          No more explicit way of doing that than taking their idols as your own.

          1. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

            Jesse's right you know. They're the same thing with different names. Their hate for each other is internecine.

            Judean People's Front vs the People's Front for Judea.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

              Splitters.

          2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

            I excoriate Marxism and Marxists all day, every day here. You guys all need to catch up. It also helps if you repetitively tie the democrat party and most individual democrats to Marxism. I always do that, and it is intended.

            It’s good to see others finally joining the party. I’ve also been pointing out that democrats are ultimately incompatible with our constitutional republic, and that something must be done about them if we are to avoid the ongoing transformation into a Marxist state. A decade ago people here treated that like it was an extreme, insane idea. Now, not so much. Maybe you can all finally acknowledge that I’m 100% right about that too, and act accordingly.

          3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

            I dont do either. Prefer to call out the ideals and consequences. Harder to dismiss.

            Any other suggestions?

    2. Commenter_XY   11 months ago

      OMB....Orange Man Brainless

  3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 months ago

    Is molesting a child, and taking bribes from China official acts?
    Asking for a dem

    1. Nardz   11 months ago

      Not "a" dem.
      Many dems.

      1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

        Biden is their spirit animal.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

          Also patron saint and in loco parentis.

    2. middlefinger   11 months ago

      It’s (D)ifferent sometimes

  4. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    Biden's public appearances are so tightly controlled by his shrinking inner circle, which has been running interference for him as his mind atrophies.

    How lazy do these handlers have to be to not bother even trying to find a body double.

    1. CE   11 months ago

      Or the debate flop was intentional, so they can make the switcheroo at the convention. They just didn't tell Jill they were cutting his meds back.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

        Intentional flop, yes, but so Joe can skate on all of his felonies.

    2. Ghatanathoah   11 months ago

      A body double might have worked sixty years ago, but in the era when everyone has a high definition camera in their pocket it really isn't a viable strategy. Someone would get a picture with some telling, tiny difference.

  5. Nardz   11 months ago

    The blood of a nation are the people who inhabit it.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    They've been digging deeper into the bunker for months now...

    You know who else...

    ...dug deep?

    1. Ajsloss   11 months ago

      DMX, when he was with your best friend tryna creep?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67RsqIYRsVY

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   11 months ago

      Dig Dug?

    3. Kungpowderfinger   11 months ago

      John Wayne Gacy?

    4. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      Deepwater Horizon?

    5. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

      Those dwarf guys?

      1. docduracoat   11 months ago

        I love those dwarf guys!

  7. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 months ago

    An American can be cosmopolitan in his judgment.
    He would be wrong and evil, but he does have the ability

    1. Chinny Chin Chin   11 months ago

      So Americans who think it is wrong and evil to molest children in other countries are themselves wrong and evil?

      1. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

        "Americans who think it is wrong and evil to molest children in other countries "

        Not a problem you'll have, Shrike.

      2. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

        No, but if they try and pass laws in the US, to combat child molestation in other countries, especially by non-US citizens/residents, that would be wrong and evil. I'm sure you knew this is what he was getting at, but chose to misrepresent it to impune the OPs character.

    2. Ghatanathoah   11 months ago

      Imagine if people in the 18th century were discussing whether someone should take the interests of their fellow countrymen account, or whether they should always put their family ahead of their fellow countrymen. I am sure you would have a counterpart then who would insist that it is "wrong and evil" to ever put country ahead of family. They would probably condemn people who volunteered to fight for their country in wars when their families back home needed them. They'd also be shocked and horrified by honest politicians who didn't use their position to enrich their family at the taxpayer's expense The version of you back in the 18th century would say that Joe Biden was wrong and evil for not pardoning Hunter Biden right away, because family always comes ahead of country.

      If you are a nationalist or a patriot today, you're already way more cosmopolitan than most people who have ever existed in history. The cosmopolitans you say are wrong and evil are just a little further ahead of the curve than you.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    What is confusing is that the president's enablers seem unable to sound the alarms that Biden is a bad candidate to run...

    A good way to put yourself out of a powerful position.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   11 months ago

      It was their turn...for the 10%!

  9. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

    … now get pre-loaded debit cards to buy food, costing the city $2.6 million to feed 7,300 migrants over the next six months.

    No costs, doing jobs Americans won’t do, delicious food trucks, diversity is our strength!

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

      This doesn't happen. They all just want to work. Always a net benefit. Stop saying the word all to describe those who take money or commit crimes. But brooking said 20 years ago their model showed a tax benefit after 20 years of avoiding deportation. Refugee emoyment rates and welfare rates have no bearing with other low skilled immigration groups.

      And finally... shut up you racist xenophobic Trump Deranged Supporter.

      1. DesigNate   11 months ago

        We have to support them financially because we won’t let them work. Also, we can’t deport them to save that money.

    2. CE   11 months ago

      It's worth it for the lower crime rate and the economic growth....

  10. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 months ago

    Biden has a schedual that tiers younger aids?

    I knew it, the latest generation of youngsters is the laziest group of slack asses ever

  11. Spiritus Mundi   11 months ago

    (Using we generously, as I certainly played no part in electing this guy.)

    Somebody reads the comments.

    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

      Sarc searches for his name, but does not read before responding.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    Trump tried to persuade state officials that the election results had been tainted by systematic fraud...

    The experts said otherwise.

    1. sarcasmic   11 months ago

      Literally everyone in the world except him and those who believe his lies say otherwise.

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

        Literally everyone who believed they were good said they were good, except those who believed there was fraud, who were told to not believe their lying eyes.

        T-A-U-T-O-L-O-G-Y

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

          "T-A-U-T-O-L-O-G-Y"

          This concept wasn't covered in sarc's logic class, as taught by professor Peewee Herman.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

            Paul Rubens never whipped it out in class.

      2. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

        What lies, Sarcasmic? They must voluminous and terrible to generate such outrage. So, why not give an example.

        1. sarcasmic   11 months ago

          The only outrage I see is from you and others who still believe his dishonest claim that there was a massive, systematic conspiracy to steal the election. You feel it is true, and no amount of logic, facts or reason can change what you feel. Yet nobody can come up with a shred of credible evidence that the outcome of the election was changed by fraud. If someone can then I will change my mind, since I arrived by my beliefs through logic, facts and reason. But yours cannot be changed.

          1. Commenter_XY   11 months ago

            sarcasmic, would you acknowledge that in 2020 that there were irregularities in GA and PA voting and tabulation? And that those two states would have swung the election the other way.

            Because when you dive into the numbers, less than 100K votes in 5 states decided the election.

            1. Foo_dd   11 months ago

              "irregularities"...... code for "we have no evidence but really really want to believe we see something in nothing."

              1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

                Anyone that doesn’t acknowledge there were irregularities in the 2020 election is either too dumb or dishonest to be taken seriously.

                1. Foo_dd   11 months ago

                  "irregularities" is a deliberately broad term attempting to completely ignore the real world situation at the time. things like one candidate telling supporters to vote by mail and one telling theirs not to. things like a pandemic that one political ideology wanted to ignore while the other was scared shitless over it.

                  of course their were "irregularities." it was an irregular point in our history. what you all have utterly failed to ever prove is that those irregularities mean anything other than it was an irregular election year. we had all thee hand counts and all thee audits your spin masters could bilk enough money from you guys to pay for.... and it all showed nothing.

                  1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

                    So both it is.

              2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                There is more evidence than what courts used in 2 recent elections to overturn the results.

                The problem is you demand state controlled evidence the state threatens criminal charges against those seeking to obtain.

                1. Foo_dd   11 months ago

                  bullshit

                  1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

                    What a fact filled rebuttal. I bet your mommy gave in when you stomped your foot and threw a fit when you wanted a candy bar at the store, too.

                  2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/connecticut/articles/2023-11-01/connecticut-judge-orders-new-mayoral-primary-after-surveillance-videos-show-possible-ballot-stuffing

                    Want me to continue?

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

            Yes, it was the cleanest election…

            in the world.

            1. Gaear Grimsrud   11 months ago

              Cleaner than the last scheduled election in Ukraine. Oh wait...

              1. Vernon Depner   11 months ago

                The only clean elections in Ukraine are the ones run by the Russians.

          3. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

            Lmao. Fucking delusional.

          4. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

            It didn’t have to be massive. We know in a handful of states it took under 1% to change the results.

            You’ve been given the court cases of election officials making illegal changes.

            You’ve been given the evidence of illegal votes based on voting in wrong districts.

            You’ve been given the double voters.

            You’ve been given the signatures approved that didn’t match signatures on ballots.

            You’ve been given the affidavits of nursing homes with near 100% voting numbers and family members in the affidavits testifying their senior relatives were not of sound mind.

            And then you celebrate the state criminally threatening those seeking access to voter information held by the state.

            Because you support dem authoritarianism and corruption.

          5. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

            Well, you really walked into that one, Sarckles.

            All this evidence and you’re the one shrieking my mind is the one that can’t be changed?

            And what’s your contradictory evidence that it was the Most Free And Fair Election Ever?

            Nothing?

            CNN’s say so?

            Was Brian Steltzer sounding ultra truthful when he said that there’s nothing behind the curtain, and to just ignore the 2,036,041 ballots touched by anomalies and 923 fact witnesses?

            I thought so. Idiot drunk.

            Trump wasn’t lying. You are you fucking tribalist.

            1. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

              I just realized that Sarc evaded having to come up with an actual lie that he claims Trump told, with some Most Free and Fair Election Ever redirection.

          6. Uilleam   11 months ago

            Almost every state violated it's own election laws under covid risk pretenses, etc. That alone should have invalidated the entire process. Instead its been constant gaslighting ever since. Do you think you are fooling anyone with this nonsense? You are a bad liar and an obvious mouthpiece. Why not try being honest with yourself and others for a while.

          7. DesigNate   11 months ago

            The people that think 2020 wasn’t on the up and up have never contended that it was just swung by fraud. Several states lost in court for the way they changed the rules, which many here had said they should have before the damn election, those rule changes undoubtedly helped Biden more than Trump.

            And again, it doesn’t require some giant conspiracy (isn’t there a fallacy for that), though they did openly admit to “fortifying” the election in that TIME article.

      3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

        I mean we know fraud existed in 2020. There have been convictions. Sarc, please expound on your belief.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

      I don't know that all the various irregularities all should be bundled under "fraud".

      But there were definitely millions of votes cast under emergency COVID provisions that were not authorized by any legislature and that were struck down after the fact (after declaring them moot as applied to that election), e.g., ballot drop boxes in Georgia, Wisconsin, etc. Mass mailing of ballots were not secure, e.g., apartment dwellers receiving multiple ballots addressed to previous tenants (who knows how many of those got filled out?).

      An incredible number of suspicious "computer error" or "human error" incidents ("Oh look, we found a memory card with votes on it. Oh we found another one. Oh, here's two more!").

      Election activists "fortifying" the election with illegal access to ballots, helping to "cure" ballots (an illegal practice in and of itself in some states, but stretched to the limit in that election (e.g., Penn. "ignore the signatures" directives).

      An unknown number of illegal aliens who voted and managed to have their vote counted.

      There may also have been some good old-fashion fraud like dead people voting, ballot stuffing, and the like, but the widespread not-authorized-by-law activities of election officials all over the country who seemed determined to bend over backwards to count as many unlawful votes as possible stunk and the stench carries forward.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

      I know you can't make a process that is completely 100% fool-proof and 100% secure, as much as we all want that. We can't.

      But we should certainly *not* be advocating for things that are demonstrably weaker and less secure than the status quo, like mass-mail ballots with no signature checks. Things like day-of-election registration without marking such ballots as provisional until the registration can be verified. Things like saying voter ID requirements are racist, as if black people cannot manage to get an ID (and as if requiring ID to get a CCW permit is somehow not racist?). Every single thing (maybe hyperbole) someone proposes for making elections more secure is derided as racist and fought tooth and nail.

      I want every single person who is eligible to vote be able to do so if they choose to do so.

      At the same time, I want to be able to verify that each ballot cast is cast by an eligible voter, who is voting their own ballot, in the district in which they legally reside as citizens, and that they are voting once and only once.

      I want the counting methods to be repeatable and auditable, to help ensure that only valid ballots cast by actual eligible voters are counted. I want the people doing the counting (or running the counting machines) to be impartial, At least, I want them to be able to set aside their biases and operate as if they were impartial, so that procedures and laws are followed. More importantly, I want to be able to believe them when they say they can/have done exactly that. As a libertarian, I don't have any particular reason to like or trust Republicans more than Democrats. Maybe at least have equal number of partisans working each step (sort of like solving the problem by "one of you gets to cut the cake, the other gets first pick", which tends to result in *precisely* even slices).

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

        Like the old quip, "You can have it fast, cheap, or good--choose two", with elections you can have it easy, accurate, or secure. Any priority for ease of voting degrades security, and vice-versa. So making sure all eligible voters get to vote no matter how lazy or challenged they might be by definition makes for insecure elections--unless you want to spend a ton of money.

      2. Vernon Depner   11 months ago

        I know you can’t make a process that is completely 100% fool-proof and 100% secure, as much as we all want that. We can’t.

        But we COULD make a process in which almost all fraud could be proven after the fact. The big problem we have now is that there are opportunities for cheating that leave no auditable trail. There is no way to prove who returned an unsolicited mail-in ballot, for example.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

          We have no way of knowing how many mass-mailed ballots were just "disappeared", either.

    4. CE   11 months ago

      No widespread fraud. Just a handful of states.

      1. Vernon Depner   11 months ago

        Remember, Joe Kennedy flipped the election for JFK by just fixing the results in a few precincts in Chicago and Charleston, WV.

    5. Kungpowderfinger   11 months ago

      The Democrats haven’t been trying to destroy Trump and his people because of him telling lies.

      Trump and the people close to him will have one foot in prison for the rest of their lives for what Trump has exposed.

      This includes the Democrats and their foreign money grift schemes, the swamp, voting fraud, and now that the President half of America voted for is a senile puppet for unknown actors.

      The best the DNC can hope for is admitting “yeah Brandon’s been hiding his own Easter eggs the last four years, but it’s ok because Obama’s people have been running everything”. That might be good enough for ~ 90% of low info Democrat voters, but they’re fucked without “fortifications” they can’t hide this time.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

        I want to see if they pull even more blatant election shenanigans, and tell us with straight faces that emergency rules are necessary.

      2. Vernon Depner   11 months ago

        unknown actors

        The Easter Bunny.

    6. Uncle Jay   11 months ago

      Joe Biden disagrees.

      "We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.” -
      Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. 20 October, 2020.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    Supreme Court's Trump immunity ruling poses risk for democracy, experts say...

    As does attempts to jail political opponents but what can you do.

    1. sarcasmic   11 months ago

      You do realize that giving immunity to Trump ruins the chances of getting revenge on Biden, right?
      Which is more important?

      1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

        Listen, this shit already went out the door with Bush and O. Those two are much higher priority in terms of prosecutorial guilt.

        If they are free and clear, Trump isnt even a discussion

        1. Ersatz   11 months ago

          Plus - Trump's track record suggests that if he gets back in power all will be water under the bridge. It worked for Hillary.

          What really needs to happen is that there must be a structural change to first cleanse the government of the worst abuses of the deep state and to implement changes to preclude any kind of recurrence. [it wont happen, of course - the administration will be too busy fighting spurrious lawfare against any initiative they have and fighting them against total political operatives disguised as judges]

      2. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

        Nobody wants revenge.

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          Sarc does. He loves political prosecutions.

      3. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

        In which sarcasmic projects his mentality onto the other commenters.

      4. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

        So all his bribes were official acts?

        Or maybe you didn't read anything about the decision. No, of course you didn't read anything.

        1. sarcasmic   11 months ago

          Great retort to things I didn't say or even imply, Jesse Jr.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

            Did you even bother to read the decision, or are you just taking MSDNC’s word for it?

            1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

              He didn't even bother to read his own comment, where he said this decision ruined the chances of prosecuting Biden.

              1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

                And if you quote him, you're lying, it's a straw man and an ad hominem combined.

          2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

            You said:

            You do realize that giving immunity to Trump ruins the chances of getting revenge on Biden, right?

            I said:

            So all his bribes were official acts?

            Are you denying even the allegations of bribery against Joe and Hunter?

            1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

              Of course he does. It’s all completely above board. To Sarc, democrats are above all reproach, and only a rabid Trump supporter could think otherwise.

          3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

            I mean you've lied about the decision multiple times even after being corrected.

            1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

              Jeffy’s been coaching while they spoon.

              1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                Obviously jeff is the obese spoon.

                1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                  Completely enveloping Sarc in his folds of blubber.

                  1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

                    So more like a Russian Doll situation?

                    I blame Putin.

          4. Uilleam   11 months ago

            Go away you useless person.

      5. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

        He can still be impeached.

        1. sarcasmic   11 months ago

          Harris for president 2024!

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

            You don't like Harris? What are you, racist?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

              Nah, he’s sexist.

            2. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

              IT’S HER TURN!

          2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

            We have to lock Trump up because of Harris is one helluva take.

      6. Think It Through   11 months ago

        Biden committed lots of crimes when he wasn't President.

        The thing that's going to save him is his age and condition. He'll be dead soon enough, no need to go after him.

        1. Ajsloss   11 months ago

          The thing that’s going to save him is his age and condition.

          That thing has already saved the well-meaning elderly man with the bad memory.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

            Was the debate debacle intentional, so Joe can escape any prosecution?

        2. sarcasmic   11 months ago

          What about retribution? Didn't Trump kick off his 2024 campaign by promising to be MAGA retribution? (that's rhetorical because he did exactly that)

          1. Think It Through   11 months ago

            He said the same thing with Hillary in 2016. That went exactly nowhere. He's all bluster no action.

          2. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

            He said his retribution would be to make the country great again you retarded simp.

          3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

            You should read his entire statement instead for what Maddow clipped out.

            This makes you look like a retarded leftist. People may start to assume it isn't just a look.

            1. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

              Quacks like a duck.

              1. Jefferson Paul   11 months ago

                Now you’re implying he’s a duck?! That’s “dehumanizing” him. What are you, Hitler?

          4. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

            Cleaning out the Augean Stables at Foggybottom will be his revenge.

          5. TrickyVic (old school)   11 months ago

            I understand some people are afraid of retribution. Bragg and James campaigned on getting Trump and their retribution succeeded, at least in the short term. Retribution is something that has been on the playing field for a number of years now.

            People who fear retribution the most are the ones going after Trump the hardest for every little thing. Maybe it's just their way of expressing guilt.

            1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

              Bragg, James and everyone like them must be cleansed. We can’t have people like them in any position of authority.

          6. DesigNate   11 months ago

            You know retribution has more than one meaning right?

            His mere election in 2016 was retribution for the Dems abandoning their previous base and going hard left.

      7. damikesc   11 months ago

        "You do realize that giving immunity to Trump ruins the chances of getting revenge on Biden, right?
        Which is more important?"

        Not morphing FURTHER into a banana republic.

        1. sarcasmic   11 months ago

          From what I’ve read in the comments we are already there so it doesn't matter.

          1. damikesc   11 months ago

            We ARE there. The Left is freaking out that Trump might do precisely what they have done. I'd like it to end --- but retribution must be done for the other side to see what a bad idea this is.

            1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

              Is there any real argument against disbarring and imprisoning Alvin Bragg?

          2. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

            How have you gotten dumber?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

              White knighting Shrike and Jeffy will do that to a person.

              1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

                Also, alcohol poisoning.

                1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                  A pity his liver continues to hold out.

          3. Jefferson Paul   11 months ago

            damikesc: Not morphing FURTHER into a banana republic.

            sarcasmic: From what I’ve read in the comments we are already there so it doesn’t matter.

            Do you understand the usage of "FURTHER" in damikesc's comment?

      8. CindyF   11 months ago

        Many/most of Biden & family's extortion and bribery schemes were while Biden was VP. His removal and possession of classified documents were from his time as Senator and then VP. The Opinion from SCOTUS didn't address immunity for a Vice President.

        There is plenty of material for retribution.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

          HIs possession of classified documents persisted for four years when he was neither a Senator or VP.

      9. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

        Amazing how you've been told multiple times what the judgement actually said and you continue to repeat it incorrectly due to your hatred of Trump.

        The only one here supporting locking any president up is you.

        We want equal application of law, not to lock up our enemies. The opposite of you.

      10. Rick James   11 months ago

        You do realize that giving immunity to Trump ruins the chances of getting revenge on Biden, right?
        Which is more important?

        putting someone in the presidency who we actually voted for.

      11. CE   11 months ago

        Exactly. Biden should breathe a sigh of relief, now that he can't be prosecuted for stealing from the public treasury to pay off the debts of his supporters without authorization from Congress.

  14. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 months ago

    Ohh Liz... You money isn't being used on you because you are a gross wite girl, and our city is run by racists

    1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

      Weird, I keep being told migrants dont cost anything and are a net plus.

      Whats this talk of costing the taxpayer money?

      Is the benefit to our society killing and raping our women for us?

      1. Ajsloss   11 months ago

        Is the benefit to our society killing and raping our women for us?

        They do the work we don’t want to dirty our hands with.

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 months ago

        I'm at the point of laughing when the progressives get raped and murdered by illegals. They deserve it

      3. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

        Raping and murdering women *and* children. Jobs (most) Americans won't do.

        1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

          Well, consider there is a vast overlap between those opposing border enforcement and those supporting Hamas, it follows there is an acceptance, if not outright support, for the raping of women and children if done by the 'right' people.

          1. Vernon Depner   11 months ago

            We can't impose our cultural values on immigrants with differing beliefs. Diversity is our strength. Rape enriches us.

            1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

              That's actually almost the argument that has been used in Europe and largely why the ruling parties are being ran out of office.

              1. Jefferson Paul   11 months ago

                I think Vernon is referencing chemjeff's inane defense of light sentencing for some of the rapists that gangraped the girl in Germany. At one point he makes the argument that just because some of the semen that was found on the girl matched the defendant, he may have just been ejaculating on the girl, but not penetrating her, so he should have a lighter sentence, even though he participated in the gangrape with the other 8 guys. Also, a mitigating factor is that those immigrants come from different cultures who have different values/beliefs.

                1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

                  Which is also what I was referencing, including a government official in Germany that literally argued that rape was different in their culture (e.g. not German culture).

                  1. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

                    'The German outlet noted that the 11 indicted suspects represented a range of nationalities. Four were German, while others hailed from Kuwait, Poland, Egypt, Libya and Iran.

                    'A female psychiatrist testifying on behalf of the defendants argued that their alleged gang rape was a “means of releasing frustration and anger” stemming from their “migration experiences and socio-cultural homelessness,” according to the Hamburger Morgenpost.

                2. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

                  Also referencing Denmark that tried to prosecute a woman for using mace in self defense to keep from getting raped.

                3. Stuck in California   11 months ago

                  he may have just been ejaculating on the girl, but not penetrating her, so he should have a lighter sentence, even though he participated in the gangrape with the other 8 guys.

                  Fucking really? That's not as funny as bears in trunks, but.. geez man. That sounds like a subplot in a Chuck Palahniuk novel.

                4. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

                  Don't forget the woman who got more jail time for criticizing the rapists than the rapists did.

                  https://www.thepublica.com/germany-woman-convicted-of-offending-migrant-gang-rapists-receives-longer-prison-sentence-than-the-rapists/

  15. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

    "Possibly the most cringe thing I've ever seen. Proceed with caution."

    I think Rachel Dolezal is owed an apology. I think unprompted she would sound more black than Kamala.

    1. Ska   11 months ago

      It's not a lie if you believe it.

      - George Costanza, visionary

    2. HorseConch   11 months ago

      OnlyFans Rachel Dolezal or NAACP Rachel Dolezal?

    3. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

      Sad, because I like her as an actor. Just one more actor for whom I have to strive hard to ignore politics in order to enjoy a movie.

    4. Kungpowderfinger   11 months ago

      I think Rachel Dolezal is owed an apology. I think unprompted she would sound more black than Kamala.

      That BET clip would be more effective at making Kamala sound black if they turned the click track volume up and turned her voice down.

      Fucking amateurs.

    5. Vernon Depner   11 months ago

      It’s quite possible she IS more black than Kamala. I want a genetic test.

  16. Spiritus Mundi   11 months ago

    Scenes from New York

    Living with the cost of illegal immigration changes your opinion on its merit!? Who knew.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

      This is why it needs to be only a border state problem they can ignore.

      1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

        Pizza. Party. Bigot.

  17. Nardz   11 months ago

    🙁

    https://x.com/OptimoPrincipi/status/1807794845710196887?t=l-N--EfyXY59XV7mmi-G1A&s=19

    Confirmed: 'Denzel Washington’s plays MACRINUS – an arms dealer who lives lavishly and keeps a stable of gladiators for sport.'

    Potential spoiler warning...

    The film appears therefore to be presenting a compressed version of the years 211-217 AD, during which the emperor Caracalla will murder his brother, Geta, to gain sole power. Eventually, the tyrannical Caracalla will himself fall foul of the ambitious 'arms dealer' Macrinus. The image appears to show Macrinus as emperor watching over battles in the arena, so probably comes from the climax of the movie.

    [Link]

    1. Spiritus Mundi   11 months ago

      69 year old action hero!

      1. CE   11 months ago

        Hey, if Liam Neeson (72) can do it, with his particular set of skills and his walker...

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 months ago

      Jake gyllanhall will play Mlk jr

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

        He’ll have to identify as a womyn Latinex first.

    3. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

      Rome was full of North Africans and there were Ethiopians and Nubians, but you could probably count the number of sub-Saharans like Denzel in Rome on one hand.

      The Sahara at the time was impassable, and it was hard to navigate around the edge by ship.

      They were considered as exotic by Romans at the time as we would consider a space alien.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

        Also, the north Africans back then weren’t Berber tribesmen and Arabs, they were mostly the descendants of Greek and Roman colonists, and in the later empire, Germanic tribesmen.

        That said, it wouldn't have been out of place or completely unexpected for a north African lanista to be of sub-Saharan origin. They were considered extremely low on the social totem pole, barely above their own slaves in stature.

        1. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

          Well, there were Berber descendants of the Mechta-Afalou, but they were nowhere near as close in number as the Goths, Phoenicians, Greeks, Romans and even Gauls that had settled to farm there.
          North Africa used to be primo farmland and had a great wine industry.

          Saint Augustus, and the Emperors Severus, Clodius Albinus, Macrinus, and Aemilianus were all born in North Africa.

          Interestingly, the Early European Farmer's also settled North Africa in the Neolithic, and Western Hunter Gathers in the Mesolithic.

          1. mtrueman   11 months ago

            "Saint Augustus, and the Emperors Severus, Clodius Albinus, Macrinus, and Aemilianus were all born in North Africa."

            Louis Althusser, Jacques Derrida, Albert Camus, Yves St. Laurent. Some notable pieds noir (black feet) from the 20th century.

        2. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

          Yeah, I love to point this out to everyone who tries and claim that Cleopatra was black. She was a Ptolemy, which were Greeks who took over the waning Egyptian Kingdom after the death of Alexander.

          1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

            Furthermore, the Ptolemy's didn't appear to intermarry to a great degree with the Native Egyptians (who were not the same as modern Arab-Egyptians being more closely related to the Coptic Egyptians).

            1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

              Egypt, like Palestine and Israel, the Arabs it would be more accurate to label as colonizers/conquerors but that destroys the narrative.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law.

    Would she take this branch check seriously with other presidents at issue or just this one.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   11 months ago

      Going by Chevron decision; just Orangeman.

  19. Sometimes a Great Notion   11 months ago

    Why isn't our money being used to improve public services from which we benefit?

    Better question: Why isn't our money still in our bank accounts?

    1. Ersatz   11 months ago

      lol .... spot on!
      😉

    2. CE   11 months ago

      Even better question: Why do they expect each of us to pay off the 100K debt they've rung up in our name?

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

      Yea, Liz is sounding less libertarian. I wonder who got to her.

  20. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

    It feels like a Weekend at Bernie's situation—advisers are the ones actually running the show, not the person we've elected.

    Gosh, nobody has ever said anything like this in the last 4 years.

    1. Think It Through   11 months ago

      Gee willikers, did you see that debate performance?

      Who woulda thunk it? Where did this Joe come from? All I had seen before were cheapfakes.

      1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

        Dude, he had a cold. Get over it.

        1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

          And the lighting was bad!
          And the Russians used a directed energy beam on him!

        2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          Long cold looks like dementia.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   11 months ago

            Well he told us we shouldn't trust Trump's vaccine before he made it mandatory.

            1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   11 months ago

              For that alone these people should be thrown into a deep pit and then ignored.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    If Harris replaces Biden, we won't even get one of the key benefits we'd want from replacing our nominee: cleaning the slate and having less responsibility for the incumbent's record...

    Biden's handlers are her handlers. The only clean state from an administration so thoroughly defeated that its operatives become so toxic as to be unemployable by future presidents.

  22. Yuno Hoo   11 months ago

    "Properly conceived, the President's constitutional protection from prosecution is narrow."

    Don't you mean "Properly conceived by a reasonable person"?!

  23. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

    How quickly they forget!

    Justice Sonia Sotomayor previewed some of these in her dissent, writing, "Orders the Navy's Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune."

    Impeach, impeach, impeach. Your gang already tried it twice, for laughable trivialities. Is that the problem, that you've used it only for trivialities and have forgotten it can be used for assassinations and coups? Oh, and that since Clinton wasn't impeached for the bribed pardons he issued, neither can any later President?

    She has got to be one of the dumbest justices ever. I doubt even Harriet Myers would have said as many stupid things.

    1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

      "1000s of children on ventilators, right now!!"

      - Justice DEI hire (1)

    2. SRG2   11 months ago

      Her dissent shows no evidence of the dumbness you claim - suggesting you've not actually read it.

      1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

        Figures you would side with the dummy.

      2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

        She claimed the decision makes a future President immune. I pointed out he could still be impeached.

        How you could fail to connect such close dots is beyond me. You probably think the numbers in a Paint By Numbers book tell you what order to color them in.

      3. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

        Gov’na shrike just admitted he’s a moron.

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          Was that ever really in doubt?

          1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

            No.

      4. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

        Lol. Poor shrike. Poor leftist shrike.

        Always with the locking up political prisoners is classical liberalism. Never change buddy. Or is it nevah change guvna.

    3. Jerry B.   11 months ago

      Maybe she's going down the same road of decline as Joe.

      1. mad.casual   11 months ago

        Being the nativist bigot that I am, I'm dubious of the sameness of their roads to decline. I'm pretty sure hers would be more along the "Donde esta Jacqui?" route.

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          Ella está aqui?

      2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

        Maybe she's coming down from a constant sugar high.

      3. Kungpowderfinger   11 months ago

        Maybe she’s practicing for her RBG impression ~ 5 years from now

    4. damikesc   11 months ago

      Never thought I'd see a SCOTUS justice argue that assassinations of political rivals was an official duty of the President.

      Then again, never thought I'd see a President repeatedly threaten to use the military against US citizens.

      Learn something new every day.

      1. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

        These arguments don't even work on them, but somehow they think that everyone else will fall for it.

        1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

          Well…sarc did.

          1. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

            Yes, but he does it on purpose,

      2. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

        Yes, this. I never heard Trump threaten to use the US military against US citizens but Biden has more times than I can count, up to and including threatening them with ICBM.

        1. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

          The unbelievable stuff they accuse Trump of is really believable to them because it's stuff they have been planning to do.

          When the establishment talks about it, you know it's on the table.

    5. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

      But she's a wise Latina, who at the time of her confirmation could most likely distinguish men from women, unlike her more recent colleague.

      1. mad.casual   11 months ago

        But she’s a wise Latina, who at the time of her confirmation could most likely distinguish men from women, unlike her more recent colleague.

        Zen Master: We'll see.

    6. CE   11 months ago

      I've noticed her wisdom looks a lot more like what her feelings tell her the laws ought to say, instead of demonstrating any understanding of what the laws actually say.

    7. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

      This question is by far the dumbest question ever asked by a Supreme Court Justice and the fact that so many sea-lions are clapping over it just shows how stupid they think the public is. First, in almost every case, the armed forces are barred from operating on American soil except in self evident cases of defense or rebellion. Second, SEAL team six (actually dev-group) is almost exclusively an anti-terrorist organization, similar to Delta, who swore an oath to protect the Constitution first, and obey LAWFUL orders. The assassination of a political rival is both unconstitutional and illegal, and the President wouldn't issue the orders directly to any single group, platoon, company, at best it would be an order to either the commander of JSOC or Naval Special Warfare, who would then issue commands to subordinate commanders, before filtering through multiple layers to the actual trigger pullers, it's guaranteed at some point someone is going to refuse this order, and then contact IG and JAG about said order, which will kick it up the chain of command and notify the JC, SecNavy, SecDef, and the chairs and minority leaders of the respective committees in the Senate and House. Given all that, someone would notify the media. And then the shit hits the fan. It would be far more likely of a scenario to farm an operation like this out to one of the alphabet soup agencies, who several have dedicated snipers who have experience operating in the US.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

        Like I've pointed out elsewhere, the legalities are ultimately immaterial. The majority didn't do anything other than point out what's been established in practice since the beginning, and the left has responded by indulging in the same old projection of their various neuroses and fantasias.

        It's just further evidence that the Great Divorce needs to happen soon.

        1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

          Anyone who thinks it is even a plausible scenario has never spent a day in uniform. I cannot even imagine some E-8/9 (usually the ranking member of a dev-group team) getting a direct order from the CiC and thinking, 'gee this seems plausible, I won't check on this with my chain of command. Business as usual.'

          1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

            And then the logistics of it. Fuck. Check out your weapon. Check out live ammo, then get all of that off base without orders. Not to mention the intel needed to develop a mission package. Fuck for those six trigger pullers in the field there's hundreds of support personal behind them that make their mission possible. I've been on post when a single pair of NVGs went unaccounted for and have served on ammo detail for a planned range day (and have spent many an hour in line to check out weapons). Granted things are a little different in the Specops community but not enough that a SEAL team could check out their weapons, ammo etc and just stroll off post with them without somebody raising shit.

      2. Vernon Depner   11 months ago

        except in self evident cases of defense or rebellion.

        Such as the current situation on the southern border.

        1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

          Defending the border is most likely a legitimate function for the US military. Now, utilizing the military to round up and police illegals already in the country would be likely illegal and unconstitutional, unless they acted in a manner aimed at overthrowing the Constitution.

          1. Vernon Depner   11 months ago

            Once invaders get away from the border, the armed forces can no longer defend us against them? If that's the law now, it needs to be changed.

  24. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

    Continuation of the mask-off party from yesterday. Every thread I have encountered on left leaning sites on immunity seems to be chalk full of "Biden needs to execute 6 SCOTUS judges and Trump right now"

    Now im no expert on "the democracy" and "muh fascism", but I am starting to think these pro-democracy anti-fascists might be projecting some of their pretty nasty intentions on their enemies.

    Also of note around the globe, and from what we have seen at home...when a far-leftie wins, lots of griping and noise from the right, memes, commentary. When the "far right" wins, riots and fires spontaneously appear. Kind of weird that the far right I have been told will end democracy never seems to burn down cities when it doesnt get its way, but we are so used to the left doing it that it doesnt even make major news

    1. Ajsloss   11 months ago

      Kind of weird that the far right I have been told will end democracy never seems to burn down cities when it doesnt get its way

      In all fairness, it’s kind of hard to burn a city down when your insurrection is armed to the gills with fire extinguishers.

      1. CE   11 months ago

        I noticed the left-wing Molotov cocktails were actually Molotov cocktails, even when thrown by lawyers. But the right-wing Molotov cocktails just turned out to be his moonshine in his truck.

      2. Kungpowderfinger   11 months ago

        Kind of weird that the far right I have been told will end democracy never seems to burn down cities when it doesn’t get its way

        “Why don’t you ever see conservatives at these massive protests?”
        “It’s because we have jobs” - badly paraphrased PJ O’Rourke

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

          I miss PJ. But I do recall he told Joe to hang it up in 2016. (I also recall that he voted for Joe in 2020, so I guess facts changed.)

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

      Check out the events of Jan 6, 2021 when a violent insurrection by thousands of butthurt MAGA idiots in an attempt to overthrow our election took place.

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   11 months ago

        ""a violent insurrection by thousands ""

        Protesting with some obstruction of government = violent insurrection.
        Very authoritarian of you.

        1. HorseConch   11 months ago

          When thousands of gun owners forget to take their guns to an "insurrection", anyone with an IQ higher than the age of Buttplug's victims should question the narraitve.

          1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

            ^this right here

            You going to tell me a bunch of people who are overwhelmingly more armed than the avg American, who have a problem with govt overreach and in general dont like politicians, all somehow forgot to bring their guns on the day they were staging an "insurrection" or "coup" to overthrow the govt? The one day they have been training for at the range, stock piling ammo...and somehow no one was armed?

            Its one of many pieces of evidence that it was just a protest that got out of hand.

            1. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

              Less out of hand than 90% of the other ones. The Trump inauguration protests caused hundreds of millions in damage, where J6 didn't even cap 10 grand.

          2. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

            Most armed group of Americans (even more arms owned than all the federal agencies, including the DoD, combined) but no one actually was armed (only firearms found were locked in a car blocks away). Hell, Rittenhouse was better armed than the so called insurrectionists.

      2. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

        Who was doing the violence? You or them?

      3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

        turd, the TDS-addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      4. damikesc   11 months ago

        The "butthurt MAGA dudes" who have been oppressed illegally by Biden?

      5. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

        An “insurrection” where not a single gun was brought into the Capitol by people who routinely own firearms. Shrike, there’s no other way to say this other than that you are full of shit.

      6. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

        Nobody buys your bullshit pedo.

      7. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

        Weird, in that riot 1 person died (and it was someone in the riot) and in the summer of left wing violence we had the most violent year on record in terms of assault and murder, with many cities burned down.

        How's that compare again? Maybe you inability to comprehend scale and numbers in general is what's leading to your gross misunderstanding of the economy as well?

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          2 people. One woman was beaten in the tunnel and the cops claimed she died of an Adderall overdose which was laughable. It is on video.

        2. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

          Misunderstanding? No, turd lies.

      8. CE   11 months ago

        Trespassing on public property and protesting for election integrity? Lock them up for a year without trial, hunt them down on social media.

        Burning down a city, firebombing a federal courthouse, taking over a downtown region and declaring it autonomous, and blocking access to police, fire, and ambulance service? Mostly peaceful, arrest a few and drop the charges.

        1. mad.casual   11 months ago

          The shittiest part is, if you explained the various distinctions and political nuances in perfect detail and accuracy to the Founding Fathers, rather than penning the Constitution and founding documents with greater clarity and attention to detail regarding civil unrest, violence, political action, apportionment, the 3/5ths compromise… they’d probably just get despondent and say “Fuck it.”

          Thomas Jefferson: “At least the ‘shall not be infringed’ part was clear, right?”
          Time Traveler: [heaving sigh]…

          Edit: Alternate ending -
          Time Traveler: Public education. Government-run Public education happened.
          Founding Fathers: [in unison] Ah! [nodding of heads]

          1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

            You mean the 3/5th compromise that was offered to appease the anti-slavery crowd?

            1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

              And yes, that's a gross oversimplification.

    3. TrickyVic (old school)   11 months ago

      ""but I am starting to think these pro-democracy anti-fascists might be projecting some of their pretty nasty intentions on their enemies.""

      They are not pro-democracy. That have no problem when the elected body that represents the citizens is cut out of the rule making process as long as it grants their wish list. They are children throwing tantrums because they don't get want they want.

      1. mad.casual   11 months ago

        +1

        This is a/the rather explicit Mott-and-Bailey. You would think the Judiciary would understand how, historically, POTUS can’t simply unilaterally order the military to take action against Americans on American soil, six different ways to Sunday. But, because Trump, Sotomayor is all “We may’ve already granted him immunity.” like an utterly retarded moron.

        Checks and balances, Federalism, democracy... they don't give a shit. A woman actually wants to kill a baby she knowingly conceived? You can't convict her of a crime! Certainly not across state lines! It's unconscionable. Even even standing outside the clinic disapprovingly is offensive.

        Woman gets pregnant with a guy who says up front he doesn't want a kid and ducks out on them? Hunt that motherfucker down for every last penny. Federal legislation to hunt him across state lines to the four winds? No problem. That's how equality before the law works.

  25. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

    Fatass Donnie ran the most corrupt administration ever - this is #14 headed to prison:

    Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon begins 4-month sentence: 'I am proud of going to prison'

    although I am inclined to give Bannon a pass for contempt but I won't overlook the scam charity he ran. Ripping people/taxpayers off is the Trump signature con.

    https://www.wptv.com/politics/political-scandals/former-trump-adviser-steve-bannon-must-report-to-prison-monday

    1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      Tell us how you feel about the Clinton foundation.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

        The foundation that Fat Donnie launched an investigation into and eventually found no wrongdoing?

        1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

          Lol

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

          turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        3. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

          Cite, motherfucker?

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

      Classical liberals for political prosecutions.

      The prosecution of Bannon.

      Given a congressional subpoena by an invalid committee. Trump claims executive immunity. (Garland and Joe just did the same).

      Committee goes to court, Trump removes immunity, Bannon agrees to testify. Committee claims it is too late and submits contempt papers. (Just happened yo Garland)

      DoJ prosecutes contempt charge (DoJ refuses to prosecute Garland)

      Shrike celebrates.

    4. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

      https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

  26. Moderation4ever   11 months ago

    Kamala Harris is the best Democrat to replace Biden as the Presidential candidate. The Biden Administration has a pretty good case to make for reelection and Harris is best suited to carry that message forward. Her closeness to the Presidency is an asset and she would be better at carrying that message forward than a failing Joe Biden.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

      she would be better at carrying that message forward

      It would be the first time Kam-Kam carried a message of any type forward.

      Communication is not her strong suit.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

          Are you secretly in love with Kam-Kam, Sevo?

          Or did she prosecute you for loitering in the Tenderloin too many times?

          Take your Droxy, Sevo. Don't warp out again.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

            How about you take a long vacation to Florida or Tennessee and do what you do best, Pluggo? Then have them catch you at it.

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

            turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      2. CE   11 months ago

        And she's still better than Biden at communicating anything.

      3. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

        Or anything remotely related to cognitive function. And she’s getting a little long in the tooth to fuck her way through the election.

    2. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      Kamala Harris is the best Democrat to replace Biden as the Presidential candidate.

      No need to insult all the other democrats.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

      Any Democrat would be a better choice for actually running shit than President Potato Head. That's why it's them acting as a shadow government with Biden as the drooling, pants-shitting, imbecilic figurehead.

    4. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

      Parody.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

        Poe's Law.

  27. Nardz   11 months ago

    https://x.com/Babygravy9/status/1808018085405761537?t=CebBAv_W1bH71-LtnsJxew&s=19

    "During the debate, the Russians hit Biden with a weapon that makes a person with severe dementia display the symptoms of severe dementia."

    Say what you want about libtards, but you have to admire their commitment to the narrative.

    [Link]

    1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

      Truly amazing.

    2. mad.casual   11 months ago

      And when he tries to wander out of the beam of the speech-jamming audio laser, Dr. Jill or Obama or the Italian PM pulls him right back in... nefarious!

  28. Yuno Hoo   11 months ago

    Possibly the most cringe thing I've ever seen.

    OTOH, the acting is better than with most of her utterances.

  29. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

    'Following President Joe Biden's abysmal performance at Thursday's debate, press coverage has sought to investigate how exactly Biden's cognitive decline got this bad without it becoming a major scandal earlier.'

    No chance it was blind allegiance to the Party narrative and ideology?

    1. Yuno Hoo   11 months ago

      No chance it was *widespread* cognitive decline?

      1. Nardz   11 months ago

        Mostly peaceful cognitive decline

  30. Think It Through   11 months ago

    Following President Joe Biden's abysmal performance at Thursday's debate, press coverage has sought to investigate how exactly Biden's cognitive decline got this bad without it becoming a major scandal earlier.

    You have got to be fucking kidding me.

    You have GOT to be fucking kidding me.

    It HAS been a scandal, for years, if you run in the right circles.

    In the meantime, the reporters who have been part of the cover up for years, are going to investigate how the cover up occurred?

    Do they all have mirrors?

    You have GOT to be fucking kidding me, writing that shit.

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   11 months ago

      Democrats have been ignoring and deflecting on this for a while.

      They knew it was becoming a scandal when they started trying to point the finger at Trump's cognitive state to deflect.

    2. Longtobefree   11 months ago

      They may have mirrors, but I suspect a large number of them don't cast a reflection.

    3. Ersatz   11 months ago

      Journalists investigate themselves… find no wrongdoing…..

      Let time pass - then
      Journo-lists rebuke the idea that Biden's dimentia was covered up by the media ..... "Thats been investigated already - nothing was found to support that!"
      and then - "thats an old conspiracy theory - lets talk about what we want to convince you of now..."

    4. middlefinger   11 months ago

      This is Gavin Newsom lying about legalized retail theft in California.

      Gee, why are these guys walking out with free stuff, why am I paying for stuff? Somebody should do something!

      The Democrats are taking cash campaign bribes from organized crime cartels. The word on the street is the migrant transfers are much more lucrative than drugs.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

        The Democrats are taking cash campaign bribes from organized crime cartels.

        Which isn’t any different than how it works in their countries of origin, incidentally. Invite the third world, become the third world, no matter what the center-right feudalists want to claim.

  31. Nardz   11 months ago

    Good for them

    https://x.com/BoundingComics/status/1807958878086484054?t=mu08AxTDGD7id6IxB_tApg&s=19

    Japanese Players Petition Ubisoft To Cancel ‘Assassin’s Creed Shadows’, Accuse Game Of Being “A Serious Insult To Japanese Culture And History”

    [Link]

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 months ago

      One black guy in feudal Japan killing people. The gameplay is about 4 min long. The black guy kills 4 people and all the japaneeses extras say the black guy did it

      1. Nardz   11 months ago

        It's my understanding that the black samurai (something that didn't exist, though they're rewriting history to say one did) is one of two characters the player can control (with the other being a girl ninja)?
        Not exactly an insignificant part of the game.

        1. mad.casual   11 months ago

          It’s my understanding that the black samurai (something that didn’t exist, though they’re rewriting history to say one did)

          And, again, this is the most hilariously retarded part of it. It’s like saying the model for the Mona Lisa was black, taping a picture of Halle Berry’s face over it, and saying “What? She’s always looked like that.” as the tape around of a picture of a clearly modern actress on a 500 yr. old Italian painting peels loose.

          There are multiple legends of half-breeds in Japanese history. The half-breeds are notorious for their ability to stand out despite the fact that they’re (half-) European. In other legends and depictions, the Chinese can be fairly easily distinguished from the Imperial Japanese on even more subtle physical cues. They stand out because of the isolationist policies and the racial purity. There are progressively more modern stories based on the legends that reinforce the fact that the half-breeds are taller or distinguished by their blue or round eyes and, in true bilateral networked fashion, from the other side as well. American immigrants know they need to hunch over and conceal their features and, even then, likely won't pass for native upon even fairly trivial inspection. All of this is interwoven and historically documented even if only circumstantially in fiction.

          And Ubisoft not only says “Fuck it. They wouldn’t notice a really tan guy in their midst.” but, despite *massively* successful loose-history-based fiction like Fallout or God of War, insists that it be someone as black as Don Cheadle *and* just accepted that way.

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

            It is actually a well know historical account. Just may be myth.

            https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/who-was-yasuke-japans-first-black-samurai-180981416/

            1. Nardz   11 months ago

              He wasn't a Samurai.
              He was a retainer of Nobunaga's, possibly even a weapons-bearer (like a squire), though basically a novelty pet.
              There's very, very, very little written about him in primary sources.
              About as much as Titus Pullo and Lucius Vorenus, but Rome was a well written show that didn't break the fictionalized history-based world it was set in.
              What AC is doing is blackwashing Japanese history to make the one DEI member of a court somehow characteristic of the Shogunate.

              1. mad.casual   11 months ago

                What AC is doing is blackwashing Japanese history to make the one DEI member of a court somehow characteristic of the Shogunate.

                And pulling the old "That's not happening and it's good that it is."/"You'll get what we give you and like it!" Salutary Contradiction/Smails Exhortation idiocy... which only reinforces the fact that they know (that we know that they know) what they are doing and are invested/motivated to pull it off.

            2. mad.casual   11 months ago

              You misunderstand.

              There's no problem with Afro Samurai. There is no problem with Yazuke. There is no problem with a fictional secret society set in Italy or Greece or The Revolution or Feudal Japan etc.

              But when you release "This is our secret society of assassins game, which we (in the past) have spent a lot of time working to set in a historically accurate world, that has the black samurai Yazuke as the main character in it." you're just slopping paint on the canvas (and, in this case, hoping to score diversity points).

              The problem is, once again, more repugnant, globalist, left-coast corporate profit-pandering. They're exploiting the myth of Yazuke, Disney public domain style, in order to effectively create a click-bait/race-bait knockoff rather than duly employing Yazuke or Afro Samurai in a manner that the cultural fanbase would appreciate.

              Halle Berry is (or was) gorgeous. I've got no problem with the commissioning of a fresco of her. Even in a period-specific style and set in a period-specific place. But don't tell me you're commissioning a new, period-specific fresco to be displayed in Italy and then put up a picture of Halle Berry in modern Western interpretation of what they think she'd have worn back then.

              It's shock-value gimmickry and, in true woke corporate fashion, rather than saying "Oh, sorry, our bad." and making something more in line with the customer's expectations (or that isn't wall-to-wall utterly shit), the customers are just being told to shut up and like it.

              Associating it with Yazuke in earnest only tarnishes that story as well.

              1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                I mean in all the AC games the character is decked out in full covered clothing (except valhalla) and you can't really see skin color.

                I'll still get the game as I enjoy the franchise except for a few.

                The quality seems dependent on which studio gets it believe they alternate every year. Never played the one in Britain.

                1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

                  “I mean in all the AC games the character is decked out in full covered clothing (except valhalla) and you can’t really see skin color.”

                  Only the first few of the series, but you still could. Plus the guy from early on was named Ezio (something Italian), and Italian guy in Italy. Most of the games, and all the recent ones, the people are pretty obviously a certain race, and arent covered

                  The recent trend is specific regions and protagonists representing that region.

                  – Origins: set in Egypt, Egyptian looking guy (Bayek)
                  – Syndicate: set in London, british dude / sister (Jacob Frye)
                  – Odyssey: set in ancient greece, play as some Spartans (Alexios)
                  – Valhalla: viking norse shit, play as Eivor the viking
                  – Mirage: desert shit, play as Basim Ibn Ishaq….

                  Its honestly so on the nose, the massive black Samurai sticks out like a sore thumb. But of course it does, its the standard race/hate-bait they do like every other month now in entertainment. Its part of their marketing

                  1. mtrueman   11 months ago

                    "Its part of their marketing"

                    The marketers know that within the darkest depths of their hearts, all Japanese want to be black.

          2. mtrueman   11 months ago

            "Mona Lisa was black"

            Judging from what I've seen of her portrait, Mona was, at best. a high yellow.

        2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          https://africa.isp.msu.edu/news_article/22285

    2. damikesc   11 months ago

      It is bullshit to me. Sheer bullshit. Up there with people whining about the lack of diversity in the Witcher, which is based on novels based on Poland from many years ago.

      1. Eeyore   11 months ago

        The Witcher was diverse enough. It had girls in it representing the 3 major hair colors. Anymore diversity is just greedy.

        1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

          Also different breast sizes, with perky, supple, and bounding being represented. A cornucopia of diversity

        2. Ajsloss   11 months ago

          For real. Nobody needs that many hair colors.

        3. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

          Anya Chalotra Is half Indian and she’s pretty much perfect.

          1. Its_Not_Inevitable   11 months ago

            Seconded.

    3. Ska   11 months ago

      Now I need to go back and play AC2, but I don't recall Ezio being accosted by black guards in Firenze.

      Oddly enough AC2 is actually cool, thematically, when Ubisoft stuck to historical fiction but not 21st century make-believe. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I'd remember if Renaissance Italy was depicted as 50% black (or depicted as 5% black for that matter).

    4. Eeyore   11 months ago

      It is fiction, not history. The reality is most ninjas were probably just thugs.

      1. mad.casual   11 months ago

        The story and the characters may be fiction, but the AC series, at least at one point, took great pride and/or advertised the degree of rigor to which their world building was performed.

        It’s fine if your story winds up with the good guys assassinating Hitler, but if the Germans have American and English and German accents and the French have German and British accents and the British have French and American and English accents, you’re just creating an incoherent mess that isn’t even fit for a Monty Python sketch.

        And this is kinda the point: fantasy or reality, serious or comedy, pick one and try to remain plausibly faithful.

        1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

          “you’re just creating an incoherent mess that isn’t even fit for a Monty Python sketch.”

          If Monty Python were making skits today I could actually see them doing something like that.

          1. mad.casual   11 months ago

            If Monty Python were making skits today I could actually see them doing something like that.

            They kinda, sorta did do it. They just didn’t do it *completely* whimsically or haphazardly so that it comes across as utter nonsense.

            “A møøse bit my sister once…” not “Ä mõòşê ßíŧ µ¥ š&ibreve;ŝţėŗ œŋć ę … “

      2. Rick James   11 months ago

        Yes, Despot of Antrim had a bit about this, detailing the conflation and confusion of fantasy with believability.

    5. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

      Was going to pin this above the Denzel one up there.

      Japan is pissed because they have all of their history, culture, and people in a game that specifically is known for *creating an environment immersed in those above things*, and they made the main male protagonist a (potentially, probably) fictional version of a person that most likely wasn't a samurai at all, but a novelty those in charge kept around for the shock value.

      In every other AC game, the protagonist is someone representative of the people/time. They have all of feudal Japan to pull from and they went with the one notable (again, maybe not even real) black guy documented, and also when he gets into combat hip-hop music plays with a sick beat!

      As said elsewhere, rings of the same hypocrisy of insisting the Witcher or LOTR have diverse casting despite being set in Northern European settings intentionally, while never providing the same for say Wakanda Forever.

      Its the entertainment version of Repressive Tolerance

      1. Ska   11 months ago

        So kind of like Afro Samurai? I don't remember that getting pushback.

        Samurai Champloo, which I personally love, didn't go with black samurai though they did have plenty of dope hip hop beats, a graffiti episode, and one of the stupidest, funniest depictions of Americans vis-a-vis a US vs. Japan baseball game.

      2. mad.casual   11 months ago

        In every other AC game, the protagonist is someone representative of the people/time. They have all of feudal Japan to pull from and they went with the one notable (again, maybe not even real) black guy documented, and also when he gets into combat hip-hop music plays with a sick beat!

        And, once again, when it was pointed out that "Hey! The protagonist in the Italian one was Italian and the protagonist in the Viking one was Norse, whycome the protagonist in the Japanese one is African?" the response isn't "Ah, yeah, maybe a character who isn't actually Asian or an assassin is a bit out of touch with an assassin's game in Feudal Japan." but "Shut up bigot. It's not your game."

  32. Nardz   11 months ago

    https://x.com/ReubenR80027912/status/1807958473591709889?t=zaVMCOe9E4iJEu3QZjC6yw&s=19

    “Why aren’t more ppl afraid Trump will be a dictator??” the media wails

    I have a theory: for 2 straight years these *same ppl* actively encouraged a national descent into a collective psychosis

    Forgive us not summoning outrage after seeing what their “concern” produced

    From March 2020 until March 2022, the DC was enthralled to a single man’s words

    Daycares masked toddlers for 2 yrs

    Crime rose parabolically. A new lexicon centered on “equity” was ubiquitous

    All of this was deemed well & good by the same ppl gnashing teeth about Project 2025

    [Pic]

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   11 months ago

      ""“Why aren’t more ppl afraid Trump will be a dictator??” the media wails""

      I don't think they understand what a dictator is. T

      1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

        Isn't a dictator someone who cuts down the number of unelected bureaucrats making laws and ruling over the plebes, and returns power to the states and supports free speech absolutism? Because I've been told for eight years these are the marks of a dictator, much more in line with something seen in 1930s central and Mediterranean European countries and not something that would have been championed by, of you know, those rich white guys in whigs that wrote our Constitution.

  33. mad.casual   11 months ago

    Still, one must wonder: Is there any cap to the number of non-New Yorkers that the city will use residents' taxpayer dollars to feed? Why isn't our money being used to improve public services from which we benefit?

    ^That awkward moment when it turns out that New York is actually the redneck-infested, homogeneous, cultural backwater catching up to the Current Thing the rest of the nation and world has been dealing with for nigh on a decade.

    JFC, there are people who immigrated here, learned English and American history, had kids, and formed their own opinion on the topic faster than you dopes got to "Hey? How are we supposed to pay for all this?"

    1. Bill Dalasio   11 months ago

      I was going to comment along the same lines. I think she's missing the bigger picture. This is an "investment" in cultural enrichment and the "dynamism" of new residents. I'm sure Fiona can explain it to her. Just think of all the food trucks.

  34. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

    Serious questions ...

    I have seen claims that Biden can't step down from running because he has a huge ($200M?) campaign fund which can only be used for his candidacy.

    1. Candidates lose elections all the time, or drop out. What do they do with leftover campaign funds? This seems like a dubious claim.

    2. What if he is thrown out by Amendment 25? Is that one way to free up those campaign funds?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 months ago

      Biden family knows that as soon as he steps down the dem establishment will turn on them

      1. Jerry B.   11 months ago

        Biden family also knows how to hide $200 million.

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

      The warchest can only be transferred to harris who is on the ticket. Otherwise he can only spend within contribution limits.

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

        What if Harris drops out, then they 25 him and there's no one to transfer the funds to?

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          Believe it goes into just a pot of money that has the yearly contribution limits. May be transferable to a 3rd party if both die. Not sure.

          Harry Reid had a huge chest left when he died. Not sure how it was dispersed. But mostly went to funding state democrats.

    3. ducksalad   11 months ago

      From Investopedia

      – Donations to charities as long as the candidate does not receive any compensation from the organizations before it is spent and the donation is not used by the charity to benefit the candidate.
      – A donation of a maximum of $2,000 to another federal candidate, and donations to state or local candidates subject to state law.
      – Gift or donations of nominal value on special occasions to anyone besides the candidate’s family.
      – Unlimited transfers to a local, state, or national political party committee like the Democratic or Republican National Committees.
      – Transfer to a future election campaign committee of the same candidate. For example, Bernie Sanders transferred $12.7 million from previous campaigns to his 2020 presidential committee.
      – Creation of a leadership PAC to back other candidates and a political agenda.

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

        "Unlimited transfers to a local, state, or national political party committee like the Democratic or Republican National Committees."

        Seems to make a mockery of the rest of it.

        1. soldiermedic76   11 months ago

          You didn't expect our legislatures would create a campaign finance law that didn't have a loophole so wide you could drive a super carrier through did you?

  35. Sometimes a Great Notion   11 months ago

    Possibly the most cringe thing I've ever seen. Proceed with caution.

    And the award for Understatement of the Year goes to...

  36. mad.casual   11 months ago

    Possibly the most cringe thing I've ever seen. Proceed with caution.

    How soon we forget. (Is that Chase Oliver in the yellow-plaid shirt?)

  37. swillfredo pareto   11 months ago

    press coverage has sought to investigate how exactly Biden's cognitive decline got this bad without it becoming a major scandal earlier. The story Politico has offered

    Holy fuck, the Athabasca oil sands don't produce enough petroleum to fuel this kind of gaslighting. The motherfucking press has, with malice afterthought, done everything in its collective power to hide the "cognitive decline", every step of the fucking way. I sure hope the price for their loss of credibility was right, because they are never getting it back.

    1. Rick James   11 months ago

      Much better said than my comment. Thank you. Seriously.

    2. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

      The job of the American corporate press is to cover stories that reflect poorly on the Democrats ... with a pillow ... until they stop moving.

  38. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

    press coverage has sought to investigate how exactly Biden's cognitive decline got this bad without it becoming a major scandal earlier.

    What a pack of ridiculous performative assholes, he had all the same dementia symptoms back in 2020. Who do they think that they're kidding?

    1. creech   11 months ago

      Senators Casey and Fetterman stand firmly behind Biden for another four years. Yes, party loyalty can be a fine thing (lots of GOPers get pissed when a Romney, Murkowski, or Collins defects on legislation) but come on guys.
      Biden's creeping dementia isn't going to get better, unlike Fetterman's stroke issues. These two jerks want to saddle our country's future for four more years of this b.s.? Time to invoke the 25th, for the sake of the country, and let President Harris have her six months in the sun.

  39. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

    "...What is confusing is that the president's enablers seem unable to sound the alarms that Biden is a bad candidate to run, ill-suited to the job ahead, and that their inability to do so has seemingly sabotaged the Democratic party, leaving it without a nominee who can beat former President Donald Trump..."

    Confusing? They're still getting paid, right?

  40. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

    This could be why so many of you flyover Peanuts feel such despair:

    Republican areas are getting poorer while Democratic areas get richer
    ....
    Nationwide, it is unambiguously clear that the U.S. economy is performing historically well. On every important measure — employment, wages, GDP, or wealth — the overall economy is not just performing at record levels, but also outperforming the rest of the world.
    ....
    Robust national economic performance has benefits for every county and small town, but that does not mean every place shares equally in economic growth. There are plenty of places that continue to do poorly.

    https://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/2024/06/24/republican-towns-are-missing-americas-booming-economy/74173361007/

    Don't fret Peanuts. In capitalism a rising tide lifts all boats. Your little dinghy will sail again one day.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

      turd, the TDS-addled shitstain of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. damikesc   11 months ago

      Remember --- he hates the Democrats AND Republicans.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

        Further, remember turd lies. It's what turd does.

    3. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      There is a story above that shows that in fact New York City is getting poorer.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

        turd lies. It’s what turd does.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

      Is this leftist shitheel talking about the same places where people are complaining that they can't afford to pay their bills and are living paycheck to paycheck?

    5. Commenter_XY   11 months ago

      Poverty rate hasn't come down; there are a hell of a lot more poor people than rich. Their lives are measurably worse under Drooler Joe.

      I really hope Team D keeps Drooler Joe on the ticket.

    6. Mother's Lament (June is Banana Republic Month, celebrate responsibly)   11 months ago

      Yay! Blackrock and Amazon and the Democrats are getting richer while the rest of the country is crushed by inflation and are getting poorer.

      Huzzah for the oligopoly!

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

        The majority of the growth is in property values. Which shrike has been told many times. Non liquid assets.

  41. Nardz   11 months ago

    Any examples to support or contest the thesis?

    https://x.com/wanyeburkett/status/1808113261469897208?t=lkVka_umcprh2C20-z2odw&s=19

    We can have a multi-racial democracy so long as it is a facially racially neutral one. What sounds excruciating is a lifetime of racial spoils auditing. Do we have enough Chinese people on the swim team? Are South Americans getting housing at the same rate as everybody else? Are police stopping Polynesians at a rate exactly proportional to their share of the population?

    So yeah, I think that’s the question. Can you have a multi-racial democracy that doesn’t devolve into spoils auditing? Can you have one, in other words, that’s consistent with our Constitution?

    “This is easy for you to say. You’re not Chinese, so you don’t have to care about how many Chinese people are on the swim team”

    Man, I don’t want to spend one second of the rest of my life tallying up the colors of the people on the swim team. I don’t want to think about how many white people are on the swim team, either. And I sure as hell don’t want my kids spending a single brain cycle on it. This stupid shit is just as bad for the people you think it’s helping as it is for everybody else. It’s small, petty, corrosive to the human spirit. If it’s the only way to have a multi ethnic society, then that does not recommend a multi ethnic society.

    1. creech   11 months ago

      Exactly. It shouldn't be racial. But we do need to tally how many folks on each team have gonads, breasts, who they are in love with, if they are RuPaul worthy drag queens, and what God or Gods they worship. Screw meritocracy; we need more idiotocracy.

      1. Nardz   11 months ago

        Can you think of any examples?

    2. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      What about the chick count?

      1. Dillinger   11 months ago

        more than two at a time becomes work.

  42. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

    "...Why isn't our money being used to improve public services from which we benefit?..."

    And for which we pay.

  43. Nardz   11 months ago

    https://x.com/restoreorderusa/status/1807761847015076267?t=sR-aYixXo35HFXoiKd4vXw&s=19

    In 1989, the Manhattan Institute released Charles Murray from a fellowship due to his IQ-related work.

    Ed Crane, president of the Cato Institute and personal friend to Murray, defended the move on the grounds that “sometimes taboos serve a legitimate social function”—ironic given Cato’s opposition to taboos against LGBT stuff and drug use.

    Most of us support social taboos, which are designed to limit activity considered socially or personally harmful—it’s just a question of which activity should be limited.

    [Link]

  44. Nardz   11 months ago

    https://x.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1808132549467607235?t=tUeyN8BASfV4RotaCaMEgQ&s=19

    Libs leave the hellholes they create, discover that life in places where they don't rule is far superior, and then complain about the politics that created the place they find so charming

    "Wow everything here is so clean and beautiful and safe but there's no diversity and everyone is so religious and the homeless aren't allowed to do drugs in the street"

    Not a single connection is made

    1. Nardz   11 months ago

      https://x.com/Will_Tanner_1/status/1808133547049295965?t=-4bTBEb0Z_KpqPDapSEwQw&s=19

      “I don’t want to live in an idyllic place, I want to live in idyllic place with diversity and democracy”

      “That doesn’t exist. It’s possible to have two, but not three”

      “You’re a fascist”

  45. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

    This reminds me of the thing @mcmoynihan has been saying about how you can tell these people are full of shit when they don’t just say “he’s not that bad” but instead say “he’s the most lucid President ever! More physically agile than a 26 year old! Wittier than Dorothy Parker!”

    Yeah, it’s all very reminiscent of how the press in leftist dictatorships try to pretend that their aging, decrepit Dear Leader is the epitome of robust health despite all reality to the contrary. On Mao’s 75th birthday, the Chinese state press claimed he swam the entire length of the Yangtze and back, even though he was increasingly debilitated by various health issues and probaby couldn’t have swum in anything other than a kiddie pool. And the reason for that is because reporting on the reality makes the dictator vulnerable to removal.

    Trump might be overweight and old as fuck himself, but he hasn't shown nearly the same decline Biden has in the last 8 years. He's still energetic and engaged, if nothing else. Biden doesn't even know what fucking day it is anymore.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

      His whining about the immunity ruling didn't help; he came across equally as incompetent as his debate debacle. And then simply turned around and left rather than (attempt to) answer any questions.

    2. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

      Not true. Nancy Pelosi just told me several experts think Trump has dementia as well.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

        Nancy's been acting pretty scattered herself lately, which I suspect is the real reason she actually stepped down as Dem House leader. These dinosaurs really need to exit the stage in the worst way.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

          They're doing it in the worst way.

          1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

            ^

            stammering, stuttering, and drooling their way along into their coffins, Feinstein style

        2. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

          She actually sounded pretty bad when making this statement, lol.

    3. Well Adjusted Biden Guy 6/11 Banana Republic   11 months ago

      Meh. I think Trump was hopped up on Adderall. Every accusation is an admission when it comes to Dear Leader.

      1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

        Honk honk!

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

        Every accusation is an admission

        Speaking from experience, shriek?

      3. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

        That fucking weak, even for a retarded Marxist like you.

      4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

        "Meh. I think Trump was hopped up on Adderall..."

        Given that you are a brain-dead pile of lefty shit, no one cares about your fantasies.

    4. mtrueman   11 months ago

      "On Mao’s 75th birthday, the Chinese state press claimed he swam the entire length of the Yangtze and back"

      Mao was born in late December. The river would have been too cold to swim. Mao actually swam (with 1000s of others) across the river in July when he was 73 at Wuhan, where the river is so wide that it's difficult to see the other side.

      It was an inspirational stunt which rippled across the communist world. You might enjoy the Hungarian film, also from 1966, by the director Istvan Szabo, Apa (Father). About a young boy's love for his father, killed by fascists during WWII. The final scenes feature a mass swim across the Danube.

      https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=9737368

      SYNOPSIS: A young boy's vivid imagination liberates him from the grim realities of war-torn Hungary in Father, an enchanting fable that evokes the childhood wonder of The 400 Blows and Cinema Paradiso, Ever since the death of his father, young Tako (Dani Erdélyi) has filled the paternal void with a series of fantasies in which his father (Miklós Gábor) is envisioned as a partisan freedom-fighter, a cultured world traveler and a decorated hero. When he reaches manhood, Tako (now played by András Bálint) struggles to live up to the heroic image he crafted, even as he discovers a world in which valor has little place. But he cannot relinquish the comforting daydreams, and as the fantasies he harbors become more elaborate, the mythic father becomes a heroic protector of the Hungarian Jews during the Nazi occupation. By depicting Tako in the wake of Wold War II and on the brink of revolution in the 1960s, acclaimed filmmmaker István Szabó mirrors the confusion of childhood with the turmoil of political upheaval. The result is a simple ode to the human spirit, and a memorable tribute to survive in the face of adversity.

  46. Rick James   11 months ago

    Who's really running the show? Following President Joe Biden's abysmal performance at Thursday's debate, press coverage has sought to investigate how exactly Biden's cognitive decline got this bad without it becoming a major scandal earlier. The story Politico has offered: Biden's public appearances are so tightly controlled by his shrinking inner circle, which has been running interference for him as his mind atrophies.

    Wait... no wait, seriously? The organizational blog that's been actively covering up what normies have been seeing with their lying eyes is now "investigating" as to how it didn't become a scandal? You're fucking kidding me.

    Oh, and b: Posted this last night, I'll post it again here. I caught Megyn Kelly's show last night and she had Charlie Kirk on who dropped an H-Bomb of an idea when they discussed the media's discussion on who would take over. While everyone is talking about Newsom and Michelle Obama, he suggested it would make sense to replace him with Jill Biden. She's popular with the base, she ticks the 'first woman president' box that the Dems are always chasing, she's already been running the country... and they don't have to change any names on any ballots...

    Boom

    1. Nardz   11 months ago

      Creative, but Jill doesn't work.
      What's going on is a factional dispute within the Ds.
      Team Obo sold their prop Joe way back when, before the SC primary, as a placeholder to defeat Trump who will serve as a whipping boy, for poor performance and obvious looting, that would be scapegoated when necessary to usher in someone else.
      Team Obo never intended to do this, but did hedge by putting another of their prop, Kamala, as VP.
      The rest of the Ds, specifically the Clinton faction, are just now figuring out that they've been played, and are pissed/panicking.
      They fucked up because they thought Kamala could be brought to the Clinton faction side, and because they trusted Obama.
      So now you see the media "turn" as the Clinton faction puts the hit out on Joe because they want to distance themselves, and also see this as an opportunity to take control of The Party back from Team Obo.
      Watch who in the media goes after Biden, and who remains silent or defends him as the only choice. It reveals which talking heads are in each camp.

      1. Nardz   11 months ago

        Oh, and Jill doesn't work because she belongs to Joe, thus only part of Team Obo transitively.
        She is not their firmly controlled prop.
        She's also bitchy/cynical enough to possibly switch sides and go with the Clinton faction if she see advantages- and there are really no advantages for her in sticking with Team Obo beyond being called in to replace Joe.

      2. Rick James   11 months ago

        I dunno, seems like a few too many pushpins and meters of yarn. Jill Biden is the president now, how tough would it be to say those pre-filled ballots are ready to go for the current president?

        1. Nardz   11 months ago

          Ballot issues would be there for anybody this late in the game.
          The Obo machine is letting it be known that if other Ds try to replace Joe that candidate wouldn't get the urban vote counting push he did.
          There really isn't a complicated conspiracy here. It's relatively simple, and fairly obvious, politicking. Only explanation that doesn't rely on the media suddenly, and independently all together, discovering some integrity and just now realizing Joe is Bernie Lomax's corpse.

          1. Commenter_XY   11 months ago

            Who replace Drooler Joe on the ballot?

    2. mad.casual   11 months ago

      she’s already been running the country

      By the same token: So did she take over after his Presidency slammed into the wall or before it caught fire and killed everyone inside?

  47. TJJ2000   11 months ago

    “Illegal immigrants now get pre-loaded debit cards costing the city $2.6 million.”

    I guess justice these days involves law-breaking illegal invaders identify as the *special* people who get to enslave law-abiding citizens to work-harder to pay for the *special* people.

    The Democrats flagship right there. Who’s *special* and who’s going to be the *special* people’s whipping boy. The [WE] mob of *special* people RULE! /s

  48. Rick James   11 months ago

    Scenes from New York: Illegal immigrants who have come to New York, frequently seeking asylum after harrowing journeys, now get pre-loaded debit cards to buy food, costing the city $2.6 million to feed 7,300 migrants over the next six months. "City officials say the program is significantly less expensive than a previous program that delivered meals, which was expected to cost about $5.6 million over the next six months," reports The New York Times. Still, one must wonder: Is there any cap to the number of non-New Yorkers that the city will use residents' taxpayer dollars to feed? Why isn't our money being used to improve public services from which we benefit?

    I'm just happy to see that Reason has walked away from the "immigrants don't use any public services" trope.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

      Fiona will be along shortly to correct that.

  49. CE   11 months ago

    First president with plastic surgery? Or is it Botox?

  50. Dillinger   11 months ago

    >>press coverage has sought to investigate how exactly Biden's cognitive decline got this bad without it becoming a major scandal earlier.

    lol whichever jornolists didn't know are likely coming to understand where they rank in their world of lying jackals

  51. Dillinger   11 months ago

    >>Do not read this as a victory for Trump, though.

    was a victory for America.

  52. Dillinger   11 months ago

    >>Justice Amy Coney Barrett ... offering some additional wisdom:

    ya nope her S.S. Useful sailed with Roe.

  53. Dillinger   11 months ago

    >>Possibly the most cringe thing I've ever seen.

    the 17y.o. dropping dead on a badminton court this weekend was pretty freaky

  54. Dillinger   11 months ago

    >>Still, one must wonder: Is there any cap to the number of non-New Yorkers that the city will use residents' taxpayer dollars to feed?

    Liz, Fiona ... Fiona, Liz.

  55. Dillinger   11 months ago

    >>we won't even get one of the key benefits we'd want from replacing our nominee: cleaning the slate and having less responsibility for the incumbent's record," writes Josh Barro

    delicious. can't spell schadenfreude without Josh Barro

  56. Dillinger   11 months ago

    >>some hypotheticals ... could present major problems. Justice Sonia Sotomayor previewed some of these in her dissent

    never stop at "Sonia Sotomayor"

  57. Well Adjusted Biden Guy 6/11 Banana Republic   11 months ago

    who is running the show?

    Peanuts,

    Two questions:

    1.) Do you think the CEO or the BoD actually does the work in a company or is it the people the CEO hires?
    2.) Have you ever watched Dear Leader talk about something where he’s not talking about something that strokes his ego? I have. It’s like watching flies fuck.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

      Cope more, lying pile of shit.

      1. Well Adjusted Biden Guy 6/11 Banana Republic   11 months ago

        Please. Do you think I’m going to scream at the sky or move to Canada because Dear Leader gets elected? I’ll be right here, old moron.

        In my tax bracket I’ll get some collateral benefit from Dear Leader’s tax policies designed to pay off his criminal friends on Wall Street.

        Meanwhile, middle America is going to get fucked. I hope their diminished economic standing is well worth their obsessions over woke and gendered bathrooms. Good luck!

        1. Dillinger   11 months ago

          lol. Joy Reid.

          1. TrickyVic (old school)   11 months ago

            Shows lack of adjustment.

            1. Dillinger   11 months ago

              the projection is strong.

        2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          You shouldn’t move or scream at the sky. You should commit suicide, for any number of reasons.

      2. TrickyVic (old school)   11 months ago

        Has no idea what a CEO really does.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

      I’ll give you two words, Shrike, and you figure it out:

      Harry Truman.

    3. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

      “1.) Do you think the CEO”

      Oh, so you’re ignorant. Not surprising.

  58. Well Adjusted Biden Guy 6/11 Banana Republic   11 months ago

    It just seems like to me that libertarians don’t care about protections the law affords to poor people and immigrants. They just care about having the law protect rich scumbags they want to be like [but never will be]. Have you guys ever considered that you have a pretty severe case of false consciousness? Seems like it to me.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

      FOAD, asshole.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

      What’s up with the new sock, Pluggo?

    3. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

      This is awful. I really hope for your sake this is a schtick.

  59. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

    Tulsi Gabbard the voice of reason vs Chris Mathews tirade

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1806883546906173451

    1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

      CM looking almost as bad as Biden. Oof these old motherfuckers need to move on

      Will add, more people need to respond to these wack jobs by just asking for examples.

      "How many Trump associates (and also, Trump) have been gone after, prosecuted, and attempted to be locked up by the opposition?....OK, now how many people did Trump go after?"

      "How many campaign associates of Trump were illegally spied on? Now how many of Biden's were?

  60. JFree   11 months ago

    Some commentators, for instance, suggest that American immigration policy should be set to serve the interests of current American citizens only. But what if an American is evaluating a French decision to take in or exclude some potential Algerian migrants? You might think the French should take a French point of view, and that the Algerians should take an Algerian point of view. But is the American allowed to be cosmopolitan in his judgment?

    What a shitty take. Which 'Americans', exactly, are going to ascertain the non-French, non-Algerian, non-American, 'cosmopolitan' non-self-interested interest here? Idathunk that grubby self-interest would be the only thing that most people are even capable of understanding.

    When did the angels descend to Earth and bless America, and only America, with the wisdom and insights about non-self that only Top Men have previously claimed? Is it a different group of angels from those who have the understanding of what future generations of Americans need from immigration policy'?

    Why it is almost as if Tyler Cowen is either full of shit or has no understanding of Bentham (who was also full of shit).

  61. Uncle Jay   11 months ago

    "Who's really running the show?"

    I'm putting my money on Dear Leader Obama.
    Any takers?

    1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   11 months ago

      Him and/or his handlers. I also think there’s segments of the executive doing their own things, for their own benefit.

    2. mtrueman   11 months ago

      I wouldn't put money on Obama. He could give a reasonable speech, but others like King, Malcolm X, or Fred Hampton could wipe the floor with him.

      "David Garrow is at this point his authoritative biographer. His book is 1500 pages what's most striking is at the end of the book, the very last page. What is his conclusion in the book?
      The vessel is hollow there's nothing there."

      Check out Norman X. Finkelstein interviewed by Glenn Loury for a leftist ripping Obama from stem to stern.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6V0ib2xLVo&t=76s

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   11 months ago

        “”I wouldn’t put money on Obama””

        Neither would I. Puppet, not puppeteer.

        Clinton? DNC? Wait who runs the DNC?

        1. mtrueman   11 months ago

          Who funds the DNC?

    3. Vernon Depner   11 months ago

      "These people don't have names."—C.G.B. Spender

  62. TrickyVic (old school)   11 months ago

    moved

  63. The Margrave of Azilia   11 months ago

    "seemingly sabotaged the Democratic party, leaving it without a nominee who can beat former President Donald Trump"

    Country in peril from drooling chief executive during military confrontation with nuclear power...Democrats hardest hit.

    Self-absorbed wankers.

    1. Longtobefree   11 months ago

      Your call is important to us:
      Press one to report an attack on the US.
      Press two to report a complete economic meltdown.
      Press three to report another trillion in debt.
      Press four to report the number of illegals now registered to vote.
      Leave a number, and your call will be returned between 10AM and 4PM. Monday thru Friday excepting federal holidays and sales at Baskin-Robbins.

  64. Marc St. Stephen   11 months ago

    "press coverage has sought to investigate how exactly Biden's cognitive decline got this bad without it becoming a major scandal earlier."

    Perhaps the "press" should look at themselves. I could see the decline for years, anyone viewing footage of Biden over time for the last four years can clearly see it and getting worse. I mean, how many fucking times does a man giving a speech have to end his thought with, "eikshosdugoueure" before you realize there's something horribly fucking wrong with him?!

    wouldn't it be refreshing if CNN, MSNBC, etc came out with pure honesty and said, "Yes,we ignored the clear cognitive decline, because, as you suspected, we are team Democrat and we really hate Donald Trump, or anyone with an "R" for that matter"

    1. mtrueman   11 months ago

      "I could see the decline for years, anyone viewing footage of Biden over time for the last four years can clearly see it and getting worse."

      I think Biden has had a reputation for verbal gaffes for decades. He's also said he grew up with a stutter, so his verbal skills were never that sharp and the verbal decline is probably not as steep the physical or mental decline. In his debates with Trump 4 years ago, the two were basically at the same level of overall fitness.

      I think both Bush and Obama had grey hair when they left office. It's a tough job even for presidential slackers like those two.

      1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

        "I think Biden has had a reputation for verbal gaffes for decades. He’s also said he grew up with a stutter, so his verbal skills were never that sharp. "

        LMAO. I have a bridge to sell you. Imagine believing the gaslighting cope you were fed. No wonder you unquestioningly believe Gaza health ministry numbers.

        Do you also still believe there were WMDs in Iraq? Any other blatant govt gaslighting stories you still hold on to when everyone with above room temp IQ has moved on?

        1. mtrueman   11 months ago

          Problems Biden had with verbal acuity are well known, and go back decades, even as far back as his childhood. If you don't believe me, find a source you trust and check there.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

        Cope more, shitbag.

  65. Ghatanathoah   11 months ago

    I don't think there's any big mystery about how Biden's people were in such denial about his decline. Everyone who knows and loves someone undergoing cognitive decline is in denial about it at first. That's why they stupidly let him debate Trump. They really thought he'd do okay. They were so far in denial they just bumped into the Aswan High Dam.

    1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

      "I don’t think there’s any big mystery about how Biden’s people were in such denial about his decline."

      No one was in denial. The majority saw it plain as day, and the people who want to cling to power did everything they could to hide it from anyone who wasn't aware. They didn't believe their own lies, but wanted to make sure they fooled enough people to maybe just inch over the finish line.

      Fortunately, Joe shitting his pants on stage sealed the deal

      1. mtrueman   11 months ago

        "but wanted to make sure they fooled enough people to maybe just inch over the finish line."

        You don't go about fooling people by putting Biden on stage in front of millions and expect him to perform for an hour speaking extemporaneously. TV ads shot on a closed set would have been the preferred method of fooling.

  66. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

    "...Ron Klain, Biden's former chief of staff who handled the debate prep..."

    Betting that gets left off his CV.

  67. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

    "Heat wave: Why more Americans die from hot weather than other extreme climate events"
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/heat-wave-why-more-americans-die-from-hot-weather-than-other-extreme-climate-events/ar-BB1peZOV?ocid=BingNewsSerp (SF Chron)

    Well, no:
    "Excessive Heat Can Kill, But Extreme Cold Still Causes Many More Fatalities"
    [...]
    "According to a 2021 study published in The Lancet Planetary Health, cold is far more deadly. For every death linked to heat, nine are connected to cold...."
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2023/07/19/excessive-summer-heat-can-kill-but-extreme-cold-causes-more-fatalities/

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