American Small Businesses Are Desperate for Foreign Workers
The number of job openings far exceeds the number of unemployed Americans. Seasonal businesses can't get the foreign labor they need.

Brett Brownlee's entrepreneurial streak started simply: as a kid, for kid reasons, with his brother. "Growing up, he and I just used to push mowers around our parents' subdivision to try to save up money to buy basketball shoes," he says. The venture looks a bit different these days. Brownlee makes a living running Archway Lawn Care in the St. Louis area. The company brings in millions of dollars in revenue each year and employs around 50 people during peak season.
That isn't to say things have always been easy. Archway's staffing has been a bit of a revolving door, with many employees working there for a year or less. "At times like now where it seems everyone's hiring," says Brownlee, "we don't get very many, if any, applicants at all."
To bridge the labor gap, Archway relies on temporary seasonal workers from abroad. In 2023, it employed 29 of them. But that visa program is so dysfunctional, Brownlee says, that it puts him on a "rollercoaster of emotions every year." Small business owners who use the program have to deal with workers arriving too late in the season, workers leaving too early, or even receiving no workers at all.
There's "no certainty whatsoever" for employers, he continues. "We rack our brain every day on why we keep doing it because it's frustrating, to say the least."
Archway is one of many American small businesses that can't find enough willing native-born workers and needs foreign laborers to get the job done. The federal government doesn't make it easy for them, artificially capping the number of seasonal workers who can come to the U.S. each year. That barrier means it's often easier for workers to enter the country and gain employment illegally.
COVID-era government policies have created lingering problems for American small businesses. Lockdowns caused abnormally high numbers of businesses to close for good. To make matters worse, in June 2020 former President Donald Trump went so far as to ban the temporary seasonal workers that businesses like Archway need, saying they "present a risk to the U.S. labor market." As of February, there were 9.5 million job openings in the U.S. but only 6.5 million unemployed workers, per the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
Labor shortages and policies that keep out foreign workers are connected. But America's main pathway for temporary seasonal workers is broken in ways that predate the Trump administration and the pandemic, and in ways that kneecap the businesses that provide beloved goods and services. From Maryland crabbers to Colorado ski resorts, American businesses depend on a regular stream of helpers from abroad. Yet the businesses that want to do things "the right way" often realize that means going without workers, forgoing growth opportunities, and failing to reach their potential.
'Half Your Team Is Injured'
The old saying that immigrants work the jobs that Americans don't want is generally true—but it's especially true in the context of seasonal employment. "Finding labor to work [the] seasonality of our business has been challenging," says Christian Sain, director of golf and grounds management for the Richmond-based Country Club of Virginia. "This is where the H-2B program has been something that fits our industry well, fits our golf course well."
The H-2B visa is a pathway that exists to bring temporary, nonimmigrant, nonagricultural workers to American businesses. The landscaping industry employs the most H-2B workers, but seasonal laborers also find work at carnivals and amusement parks, fisheries, restaurants, resorts, and more. Most H-2B workers come from Latin America, but Jamaica, the Philippines, South Africa, Serbia, and Ukraine also sent thousands of laborers in FY 2022. Their contributions keep outdoor spaces beautiful, ensure that popular seasonal institutions operate smoothly, and allow small businesses to keep providing the goods and services that consumers rely on.
Small business job openings have finally fallen to pre-pandemic levels, according to a March National Federation of Independent Business survey—but 86 percent of small business owners "hiring or trying to hire" reported "few or no qualified" applicants nonetheless. There were more than a million open jobs in construction and manufacturing and over 1.1 million open jobs in leisure and hospitality as of February, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
The H-2B visa program ideally could help solve these problems. But in its current form, it can't reliably get willing workers to employers when they're needed and it can't respond to the forces of supply and demand. It's also horribly complex, boasting over 175 rules that regulate everything from recruitment to wages.
The government issues H-2B visas in two rounds: one starting in October and the other in April. "About 150 days before the job start date," wrote David J. Bier, director of immigration studies at the Cato Institute, in a 2021 Cato paper, an employer must "submit a prevailing wage determination" to the Department of Labor. (This is the minimum wage for H-2B workers, and as of 2020, the hourly average was $14.09.) American employers must file a temporary labor certification, which "determine[s] whether or not there are sufficient qualified U.S. workers who will be available and that any employment of H-2B workers will not 'adversely affect' the wages and working conditions of similarly employed American workers," Bier continued. Employers are placed into groups based on their filing order.
That order has a huge impact on when a business receives its workers—and whether it gets them at all. Lucky filers land in Group A, which the Department of Labor adjudicates first. This year, the Country Club of Virginia is in Group F—the second-to-last group—which means "we have no chance of getting our workers at all," says Sain. "Right now, we're just falling behind because we don't have our workers….It's like being on a team and half your team is injured."
Workers often arrive too late in the season, explains Andrew Bray, senior vice president of government relations and membership at the National Association of Landscape Professionals. "That's always what the issue is," says Bray. Landscaping companies are "signing these contracts sometimes with liquidated damages provisions and they're not sure if they're even going to have their workers."
"We have 29 H-2B guys that are all getting ready to go home in the next three weeks or so," per the visa program's rules, Brownlee said in early November. "But I have probably six weeks' to eight weeks' worth of work left still to do that's already been sold with my labor here….Now I have to go back to my customers and tell them, 'Sorry, our labor force had to go home, and I can't find enough guys locally, and now we have to wait until spring.'"
Even though 2023 was a record year for Archway and the business got all the H-2B workers it applied for, Brownlee says, "We're not going to go out and buy a bunch of new equipment or new trucks or anything like that for next year, because we don't know if we're going to get these same guys back next year or not." That's money that won't reach other businesses and keep the economy moving.
The government knows there's huge demand for the program. In 2022, the Department of Labor approved about 210,000 petitions by employers for H-2B workers, Bray says. "But we have this cap that doesn't reflect the actual demand." Only 66,000 H-2B visas are granted every year—a limit that hasn't changed since it was established in 1990. In other words, the government acknowledges a need for H-2B visas that is far greater than the number of visas that regulations allow to be issued each year.
Because the visas are distributed via a randomized lottery, many employers who apply for workers simply lose out. The lottery "selects entire petitions—which include all the workers that an individual employer is seeking—rather than selecting individual beneficiaries from each petition," wrote Bier, so "employers either receive all their workers or none."
On top of that, the program is very expensive for the businesses that use it. The Seasonal Employment Alliance, an H-2B advocacy group, estimated that employers spend between $1,500 and $3,000 for each H-2B worker they bring in. Administrative costs tend to add an extra $1 to $3 to the hourly wage employers are mandated to pay H-2B workers, "bringing the real cost of employing H-2B workers well above what it would cost to hire US workers."
Thanks to all these mandates and regulations, it would be far easier for a small business to hire undocumented immigrants than laborers on work visas. "I've had more illegal immigrants or people without papers try to get jobs with us than any local help," says Brownlee. "Having to turn them away, it's frustrating, because we've spent over a decade using the H-2B program, doing everything in our power to keep a legal work force, and I've got people that are willing to work that don't have papers and I have to tell them 'no.'"
"It kind of puts companies like us between a rock and a hard spot of trying to keep a legal work force and stay competitive," he adds.
'A Risk to the U.S. Labor Market'
One of the most visible roadblocks to a better visa pathway consists of politicians who otherwise claim to champion the interests of small businesses and American workers.
As an ostensibly COVID-related measure in April 2020, Trump issued an executive order suspending green cards for certain immigrants whose entry he argued would be economically "detrimental to the interests of the United States." At the time, due in part to opposition from business groups, he didn't touch temporary visas for seasonal workers, farm workers, and other foreigners.
But a month later, with the U.S. economy still in shambles, Sens. Tom Cotton (R–Ark.), Ted Cruz (R–Texas), Josh Hawley (R–Mo.), and Chuck Grassley (R–Iowa) urged Trump to suspend many of those visas for up to a year "or until unemployment has returned to normal levels." The country's "guest worker programs," including the H-2B visa, "remain a serious threat to the U.S. labor market's recovery," argued the senators. "There is no reason why" young people "should not have access to seasonal, nonagricultural work…before those positions are given to imported foreign labor under the H-2B program," they continued.
Trump granted their wish in an executive order one month later. A Department of Labor and Department of Homeland Security review of nonimmigrant visa programs, Trump's order explained, found that "the present admission of workers within several…categories also poses a risk of displacing and disadvantaging United States workers during the current recovery." He barred the entry of certain nonimmigrant workers—including H-2B visa holders—through the end of 2020. Trump would later extend the order, with President Joe Biden rescinding it in February 2021. (Trump, it should be said, has employed hundreds of H-2B workers at his golf clubs and resorts over the years.)
Opponents of these work visa programs often hold the common yet mistaken view that foreign workers displace American ones. But after Trump banned H-2B workers, Bier noted that "government data show that almost no U.S. workers applied for H-2B jobs, despite the spike in unemployment." Brownlee explains that the extra revenue Archway gets thanks to its H-2B workers "allows us to pay [American workers] more to be supervisors and managers for these guys who are coming in on these seasonal visas."
"It's created opportunities for guys internally here that started with us literally 10 years ago making 10 bucks an hour that are now making anywhere from $50–70,000 a year," he adds.
"Each H-2B worker actually supports 4.6 U.S. jobs," says Bray. "That means a company that can hire more workers to make sure they can fulfill the positions within their own organization, that company can grow."
The issues with H-2B visas and other nonimmigrant work programs don't always come up in the political battles. They're hidden within layers of the antiquated U.S. immigration system and all its artificial caps and bureaucratic bloat. "It doesn't matter if it's a Democratic administration or a Republican administration," Brownlee says. "It's been the same way for probably six or seven of the last 10 years."
By design, the H-2B visa—and many other work visas, temporary or not—is not responsive to market forces. Visa caps all but guarantee that supply won't match demand. The government also mandates that businesses try to recruit American workers before they can hire H-2B workers. "Even if U.S. workers reject the jobs, the law can still require the positions to go unfilled, thus harming employers and U.S. workers in complementary employment," wrote Bier. Doing away with these barriers would mean removing layers of protectionism that stifle the U.S. economy.
Issuing more temporary work visas could also help reduce the number of unauthorized crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border. "The vast increase in the number of H-2 guest worker visas issued to Mexicans can explain a large percentage of the decrease in Mexican illegal immigrants," wrote the Cato Institute's Alex Nowrasteh and Andrew C. Forrester in 2019. "From 2000–2018, a 1 percent increase in the number of H-2 visas for Mexicans is associated with a 1.04 percent decline in the number of Mexicans apprehended on average."
They concluded that it would be "simpler and cheaper to issue more H-2 visas than to hire more Border Patrol agents" to address unauthorized immigration. Instead, U.S. officials have chosen a path that encourages more chaos at the border and punishes Americans whose businesses can't survive without foreign workers.
'The Short End of the Stick'
Small businesses have seen relief here and there, but not the solutions they say they need.
"There's been various increases in the past through one-year policy changes," says Bray. The Department of Homeland Security announced in early November that it would do just that for FY 2024, releasing over 64,000 supplemental H-2B visas. But businesses that use the program are still waiting on a lasting solution, Bray notes: "We need a more permanent fix to the cap so it actually reflects demand."
One fix that Brownlee wants is a returning worker exemption—an exemption to the annual cap for workers previously employed under the H-2B program. "Congress previously passed such an exemption for fiscal years 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2016," wrote Bloomberg's Andrew Kreighbaum. Lawmakers tried to pass a returning worker measure in a Department of Homeland Security funding bill in September 2023, Kreighbaum reported at the time—but the provision was ultimately stripped from the final bill.
"It feels like every year we get all these rumors that there's going to be a fix…and then during the spending bill negotiations, something has to get taken out at the eleventh hour and it's always H-2B, and it's always the returning worker exemption or the cap stuff," Brownlee says. "'We've got to keep things status quo, we don't want to rock the boat.' We always get left with the short end of the stick."
H-2B visas bring workers where they're needed, to the benefit of small businesses and both American and foreign workers. Along with other temporary work visas, they can help reduce the pressure of unauthorized migration along the U.S.-Mexico border. Despite its flaws, the H-2B program is essential for thousands of American businesses, especially small seasonal ones.
By failing to reform the pathway, policy makers are forcing businesses to forgo growth and provide service below their standards. "You feel like you're pushing the stone up the hill constantly," says Sain, "but you just never get it to the top."
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Wrong. WELFARE is the reason people can’t find the workers they need. Who wants to work when everything is ?free? - And your "foreign" is a huge part of that zero-work ?free? stuff club.
The article is about seasonal workers. We get a lot of them here in the Black Hills. Visit Mount Rushmore and half the people working have names with WAY too many consonants. Lots of Eastern European kids come to work the tourist season. Most of them are college students who need to make money over the summer to pay for school for the fall and spring semesters. The dollars they earn go a long ways toward their education.
The problem isn't welfare, it's our own college students thinking that kind of seasonal work is below them. They pay for school with student loans and work internships in the summer. It's hard to convince a liberal arts major that bussing tables at the Mount Rushmore Cafe is worthwhile work.
Wall Drug hires a lot of African students for the tourist season. Nice kids who work hard serving tourists food and handling the registers for the sales of cheep Chinese made junk.
I suppose if you lump student loans into Welfare then you're not wrong. Just not accurate.
... Ridiculously easy to obtain non-dischargable loans for amounts that the borrower will not be able to pay back quickly if at all are a form of welfare. It's welfare for idiots that will cause them harm in the long run, but welfare nonetheless. If those loans were dischargable in bankruptcy like any other unsecured loan, those kids would be forced to work for college tuition money, thus saving the problem.
If the loans were dischargable in bankruptcy student would just declare bankruptcy as soon as they graduate and get their loans discharged.
I know, you’re asking who’s going to give them loans they’ll just discharge immediately. Well it would be the same government that's trying to forgive the non-dichargable loans they already gave them.
Which circles right back around to the problem being welfare doesn't it.
Since the problem is welfare why are you suggesting more welfare as a solution?
Wow, it's almost as if the removal of the welfare would solve the problem. It's as if the person I was responding to stated that welfare wasn't the problem.
If the loans were dischargable in bankruptcy student would just declare bankruptcy as soon as they graduate and get their loans discharged.
Golly. In a free market that would be considered a risk of doing business. And would hugely lower the amount of unsecured loanable funds for that purpose. Thus reducing the inflation of college tuition/fees. Hmm - I wonder if that change to the law in the mid 1980's resulted in college tuitions ramping up much faster? Which resulted in a rapid ramp-up of student loans? Why yes - yes it did.
It was your hero Jimmy Carter who created the DoEd.
It was Obama who shifted government to be the backer of loans.
It is democrat University admits and professors who benefit from large loan grants.
Weird you ignore this shit.
I didn't even mention D's or R's - BUT -
Reagan is the guy who EXPANDED the DoE into something more than just consolidating the existing federal depts/bureaus. During Carter's time, all other education stuff was done through an interstate compact. Which still exists but was gutted when the main thing it was focused on (testing) was deemed to be a function that would be privatized - under the control of the federal government rather than the states-in-compact. Following from the 1983 Nation at Risk report which framed testing results by students as a national security issue not something that state level bureaucrats could cooperate on in-compact. So the interstate compact was gutted and the functions were moved to the feds.
The Bankruptcy Amendments and Federal Judgeship Act of 1983 is what restricted all student loans from being discharged in bankruptcy. Which was - like all bankruptcy reform - done at the behest of CREDITORS not debtors. iow -cronyism
You're such a partisan whore.
Jimmy Carter and hero do not belong in the same sentance.
Those loans used to be dischargeable in bankruptcy. And then the government became the underwriter of most such loans and made them ineligible for discharge. Once the government became the actual lender, they really got hard over on preventing discharge. Right up until Biden just started handing out money.
Student Loans are a good investment for real degrees. Not every kid gets a degree in feminist studies with a focus on feminist science fiction.
Avoid the big name private schools and stick with in state schools and it's not that bad. $100,000 for a degree in a STEM program will be less than they will spend on a fancy sports car once they have the job.
One of these is the same as the other for all practical purposes.
We are supposed to ignore how much in student loans Joe has given away from the coffers.
Considering it's a drop in the rather huge bucket I don't think we need to dwell on it. Obama bailing out the "too big to fail" banks cost us a lot more.
The is because we raised a generation of students being told degrees would get them into skilled labor work. And no one is willing to hire them as skilled labor. We fucked up as a society in encouraging an entire generation to be skilled labor. That 4-8 year degree is supposed to translate into 4-8 years of work experience and no business on earth acts like that is true. Oh you have to put in the hours in the mail room and coffee runs… what exactly is the purpose of a degree if the best knowledge you get is on the job?
So our labor force is TOO expensive to employ in minimum wage jobs and too inexperienced for higher level work.
Maybe the university system was a big f-ing fraud.
I just read an article about "Gen Z" choosing trade schools and strait to workplace careers over college educations. Seems they saw the writing on the wall and are responding.
No they are not. Government Charity programs do not require paying into the system or paying back the charity with interest. Student Loans are paid back unless you just happen to owe money during an election season and get lucky enough to have them discharged which affect a very small percentage of borrowers. The cast majority will pay those loans off with interest.
I guess HS aged kids are too busy getting their hair sniffed by Biden to work during the summer.
A large proportion of HS aged kids have been raised on public assistance and are obese, unsocialized, and would be worthless on the job.
So make them worthless their entire lives or let them learn a work ethic for pay?
So, YOU hire them. Good luck.
The minimum wage laws prevents employers from wanting to take a risk on the inexperienced. So there is actually no way for people to enter the work force and gain experience.
It’s truly the dumbest thing.
Just as many who graduate from the ivy league shit holes that pass for universities these days, who won't get hired to fill law clerk positions as they have been indoctrinated in woke/trans/leftism.
Some of the "kids today" fall into that description but not a large proportion.
No, they’re just getting priced out of the labor market.
" It’s hard to convince a liberal arts major that bussing tables at the Mount Rushmore Cafe is worthwhile work."
Maybe if you stop providing them with foodstamps, etc. they'd find it worthwhile, if they wanted to eat and all.
I'm not providing them with shit. That's what Republicans and Democrats do. They pass the laws, not me.
It’s because that work doesn’t cover their loans let alone something to live on. Maybe telling everyone to get degrees was a stupid thing to do.
End student loans, tuition will come down and the kids will need to get seasonal jobs to pay for college. Also end all welfare immediately. there is a huge pool of workers who are sitting home, ordering fucking door dash and living off others. Charity can take care of any basic needs.
End of story.
You get on that. I don't have a problem with the student loans my son is taking out.
You are half right. American kids don't want to do that type of work. But the enormous number of Americans on some type of welfare program, whether it is unemployment, disability, or any other number of welfare programs. I've read that close to one in three working age people are collecting some type of government hand-out check.
One thing that could be done and should be done is end voting rights for those whose entire lives have been on welfare.
Our founding fathers had it right when it comes to voting.
There are seasonal workers all over the country who are off-season welfare recipients--with families.
I thought we got rid of welfare during the Clinton Administration and change it over to Workfare?
It changed back under Obama. A Company that I worked for, partnered with a local group for the mentally handicapped. We had them making wiring harnesses for us. We built the jigs, trained and worked with those people. We were getting a good product, and they were getting paid. When Obama took office, our State stepped in and disbanded the project, because the Federal Government said that we were taking advantage of those people. Now their organization sells candles and firewood.
I can't speak to your specific case. But I have seen and continue to see mentally and physically challenged people working. I approve of these types of programs. I have worked in offices where individuals were assigned work like office mail or other items delivery. These people work independently perform limited tasks. I question the value of these program when I see individuals that need helper and especially when those helpers are the one really doing the work. I know of one case where a multiply handicapped individual was assigned as a copy specialist and people had to touch here hand to a certain number of papers copied every day. It was ridiculous but to get the benefits the individual needed to have a job.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men (Republican-voting US citizens only) are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
1. That was far less witty than you imagined it was.
2. Yes, the constitution was created for Americans. Not people living in other countries or those who illegally entered.
3. Stop sockpuppeting, Shrike.
The question to ask him
"did that sound better in your head?"
Shrike does have a lot of room to spare in there.
The funny part is Democrats think they have an "unalienable Right" to STEAL (destroy rights) of those other 'icky' (?Republican?) people's earnings. Still the party of slavery.
If that wasn't flat out obviously true they wouldn't need 'Guns' (Gov-Guns) in their ?charity? "plans". Guns don't make sh*t!
The difference between Democrats and Republicans is in their unquestioned premises. Basic concepts that they do not even think about, they just "know" them to be correct.
For Democrats they believe that the purpose of government is to make people's lives better and government, when run by the proper people, can do great things. They do not question this base assumption. Their actions make sense in that light.
Have you ever seen the huge list of things to thank Democrats for? It's mostly bullshit, they take credit for the 40 hour work week, the weekend and a bunch of shit the unions fought for. The list is really enlightening when it comes to understanding their perspective.
Electing "the proper people" to run their lives for them was never against the law.
Nothing stopped them from starting a "Commie-Club" membership contract with elected king-tyrants demanding only 40hr weeks, a weekend, universal healthcare, etc, etc, etc, etc. Nothing they're thankful for required destroying the nation/freedom for.
Their only excuse to involve the 'Gov-Guns' was to STEAL from UN-willing participants what their selfish "plans" couldn't sustain. The same reason B. Sanders wouldn't implement Universal Healthcare in his own State for. At it's very core; it's all about 'slavery' of others. Once the party of slavery; still the party of slavery.
Ok, get angry. It doesn't hurt me.
Your ignorance shows in it's full glory.
1/10 on the creative scale. I know it's the best your 2 brain cells can do.
You quote but have no reading comprehension.
How many illegal immigrants do you have in your house? I'm sure they get to decide everything there right?
h2b should be for this purpose and not for tech companies to exploit while firing americans.
Agreed. One of the things we can actually ding Trump for was his reduction of those visas for unskilled seasonal labor. The tourist trap businesses in the Black Hills were understaffed and the tourists were not happy about the slow service and long lines.
There are 10k unemployed in SD currently.
https://dlr.sd.gov/lmic/overview.aspx
5% of teens in the state don't work or go to school.
https://spotlightonpoverty.org/states/south-dakota/
So your entire narrative is bunk.
5% of teens in the state don’t work or go to school.
And you probably wouldn't hire them, either.
I'm curious. How much education or skill do you think it takes to clean a room or hand out a brochure? Do these skills only exist in other countries.
Your arguments are really fucking dumb.
How do you propose forcing them to do it? You seem naïve, as if you have no contact with such people.
That's just how the Aboriginals are. You can't do shit with them. They just absorb tax money and sit on their reservations bitching about how much we white folks damaged their fucking culture.
It does take actually showing up, though.
Sure, local teens should do those jobs. But if they aren't doing them, the employers still need the jobs done.
How far do those kids live from the available work, the Dakotas are farm land with lots of distance between of course they could spend their summers at work housing or is that illegal now as well
Yes, they are aboriginals. They live on tribal land, don't go to school, don't get jobs and live off welfare. When Governor Noem called them out on being legal havens for drug cartells they banned her from their lands.
My son spent a year teaching their kids STEM stuff and basically providing a positive male role model. He would come home and want to hunt the parents down and kill them because they fuck their kids up so bad. We aren't letting him work there next year. It really fucked with him, he cares too much.
unskilled seasonal tourist industry labor?
Aren't those jobs usually filled by teenagers on summer break?
Not according to open border leftists like Vernon. They need to make idiotic claims to justify the open borders.
I don’t think Vern is open borders or leftist, but I could be wrong.
If I’m reading him right he’s saying that many of our pampered, dumbed down pink haired youth are utterly unemployable, and fit only for mindlessly protesting whatever current day outrage gets pushed to the front of their weak minds. (At least until they grow up a little.)
That said, I don’t buy the narrative that we are woefully short of unskilled labor. You could both be right.
Apparently this is the first time Jesse has ever read any of my posts, and his reading comprehension is poor.
usually filled by teenagers on summer break?
Yes, but in the region where I live, most of those teenagers are from Eastern Europe.
They should be, but liberal arts majors think it's below them. The STEM majors are too busy doing summer internships that pay two to three times as much money.
My son could have worked amount Rushmore for 15 an hour or he could take an internship in Tennesse that paid 26 an hour and provided housing.
Guess which he chose?
I was a STEM major. My advisor gave me some good advice on summer internships. He said I would be working for the next 40 years in tech, why waste one of your 3 remaining summers also working in tech?
He actually enjoys the work. He did an internship in Utah that didn't pay as well but he found he has an interest in workplace safety so he has been adding classes on that to his coursework. Also the money is real good. This one pays $26 an hour with his lodging provided and reimbursement for travel.
Ok, you know you pay more, which attracts more people. Yes, it cuts into profits or you have to raise prices. You know actually pay for how much something costs.
I do agree with your college student points above. That's what fast food, walmart, kmart etc are for. I worked my college summers at Kmart, Sears, Burger King, even sold knives.
Some of it's the parents fault for codling or telling their angels they are too good for jobs
H2B is for ag workers and such. H1-B is for tech workers.
Fiona sure likes unlimited immigration doesn’t she?
What makes you think that?
Fiona should have a sit-down conversation with Laken Riley.
I’m sure one of our countless violent illegals could help get Fiona to the meeting.
Yes she does; because the USA already has MORE immigration than any other large nation on the planet earth? There's never enough according the Reason writers till the USA gives-up its claim of Independence and there's nothing but unmarked territory.
Unlimited immigration is just one means to their end of destroying Western civilization.
It’s worked for the commies before.
Did that happen when Irish, German, and Italians came?
We got plenty of organized crime, and socialism out of the deal. So, yeah. Kind of. Even if they were my great grandparents.
Also they weren’t given shit. They went right into the coal mines.
They were given opportunity and that is what most immigrants want. Your ancestors worked in coal mines so that their children did not have to do the same.
The massive influx of immigrants in the late 19th and early 20th centuries caused a great deal of damage, including a lurch towards left authoritarianism of our political culture, a normalization of corruption in urban government, and a rise of amorality in business, among other harms, but we limited the damage by staunching the flow of undesirable immigrants with the immigration acts of the 1920s. Had we left the gates wide open, there certainly could have been catastrophic results.
You seem to have a hate boner for anyone who came here after your family arrived.
I think she's been assigned this topic. My own theory.
Wreaking the US economy for lack of hard-working non-citizens is NEVER too high of a price to pay for satisfying the hate-boners of Those Who Worshit The USA's Collectively Owned Sacred Soil!
On the The USA's Collectively Owned Sacred Soil, the Self-Sacred Collectivists FORBID you (you who can't provide "papers please") from willingly working for willing customers!!! Then they run off to pat themselves on their backs, and stroke their hate-boners!!!
I dont know that I'd say it that way but you're close to a truth.
You understood that?
Yes, SOME people are actually SMARTER than You, Oh Perfect One!
The fact someone can't understand ǃKung, Moonspeak, or Gibberishese, has nothing to do with their intellect.
None are so blind ass those who willfully and stubbornly REFUSE to see, Oh PervFect Servant and Serpent of the Evil One!
Intellect is VASTLY overshadowed by benevolence, anyway, for those who give ONE single shit about "loving their neighbors", and a decent future, by the way, Oh PervFected Servant and Serpent of the Evil One!
Did ya put any babies into wire cages lately?
Maybe if you didn't babble dishonest bullshit constantly.
Also it was your messiah, Barack that stuck kids in cages, Nazi.
"Both sides" stuck kids in cages.
Between the two of us, only ONE of us pushes death by suicide and steals peoples's identities! And shit is SNOT me, Oh PervFect Servant and Serpent of the Evil One!
It's only “Both sides” for you when a Democrat gets caught doing something shitty. Never any other time.
I used to run with a Patriot Militia in the 90s. It's much the same method of talking.
What did you think; USA citizens (the collective) were all going to just lay-down and let invaders take this nation away from them out of some BS that they had the Individual Right to STEAL it?
FYI: We won the Revolutionary War. Established a Nation with a National Defense. If foreigners want it at least they could man-up and arm themselves instead of being pathetic panty-*sses trying to sell some deceitful psycho-babble about some Individual right to just TAKE that by self-entitled claim.
Course that's what you Leftards do isn't it. Day in and day out. Psycho-babble to STEAL and TAKE, STEAL and TAKE. Your very manifesto (platform) is to destroy the concept of ownership so you can STEAL and TAKE.
How many Catholic priests, Native American Shamans, Methodist Ministers, Scientology “Leaders”, Jewish Rabbis, and Islamic and Hindu “Holy Men” are you inviting into YOUR house to stay with YOU? None, right? Since they are living “at large” in the territory of the Collective Hive of the USA, then with the Collective Hive of the USA being just EXACTLY like YOUR living room, the public (voters, through the Powers of Government Almighty) should decide which religious leaders are allowed to practice which religions in USA territory!!! Because the Collective Hive owns it ALL!!! …
Straight-through and honest analogy here… If this does NOT clarify to you, the collectivism inherent in your analogy, then you have a fossilized mind!
You pay taxes on your property, and maintain it. You have the right to says who uses it, no doubts in my mind about THAT! You do NOT own (or pay taxes on) ALL territories in the USA, power-grabbing PIG!
Citizens pay taxes for a National Defense. They maintain that National Defense by voting. Therefore; Tax-paying citizens OWN the nation *not* some foreign invaders.
Your reply doesn’t defeat that. It's just more of the same-old, same-old STEAL and TAKE, STEAL and TAKE psycho-babble.
Which reminds me; The other thing Leftards preach is that everything the US Constitution says the USA was created to do is the worst thing ever and every the US Constitution says it's prohibited from doing is actually what it needs to do.
100% the party of treasonous minds. Enemies of the USA.
"Citizens pay taxes for a National Defense. They maintain that National Defense by voting. Therefore; Tax-paying citizens OWN the nation *not* some foreign invaders."
Babies and children pay NO taxes, nor do they vote!!! THEY ARE INVADING PARASITES, damn-shit-all!!! Send them back UP the birth canals from which they invaded us!!!
And that is just pointing out yet another problem your clan has helped create.
"Save the children from having to learn to work!!!" /s.
US citizen infants are still part of the would-be tax paying population. They just don't pay it yet. Not everyone elligible does pay taxes at all times. However, ILLEGAL parasites are not part of it and can never be.
So, are you saying illegals who rent property exempt the owners from having to pay property taxes? Illegals who buy groceries, clothing and such don't pay sales tax? Illegals who buy used cars don't have to title and register those vehicles?
How can I get in on this deal?
States (as-in every one you listed being State taxes) don’t run the National Defense department. So not only are you making completely far-fetched excuses; you're not even doing that right.
Nobody owns the nation. If you own something, you can sell it or use/dispose of it as you see fit.
That was surprisingly low amount of typos coming from someone with a white pillowcase over their head.
Democrat self-projection 101.
pretty sure the unemployment rate for Americans under 24 years of age is up quite dramatically year over year
But hey the federal gov says they will subsidize the illegals so you don't have to pay them!
Then turn around and tell the white kids you need to work 10x harder to pay for the illegals
Party immigration, maybe, mostly increased costs like minimum wage and other government regulations.
Do you plan to round them up and put them in work camps, whip them if they don't work hard enough? Deny them food if they don't work at all?
And yet fast food places still can't get enough people to work at $15/hr.
End all forms of welfare. Today. Afterwards, productive workers from elsewhere will be welcome provided they are not criminals or diseased.
There are no jobs Americans won't do. There are jobs Americans won't do for substandard wages. And many of the seasonal jobs could actually be done by employing automation as has been done in Europe and long term would be cheaper for the employers but has a higher short term cost due to the substandard wages of illegal aliens.
"There are jobs Americans won’t do for substandard wages."
And the wages wouldn't be substandard if they enjoyed the same welfare benefits and tax free status of the illegals.
You mean some Nazi-Empire indoctrinated them to believe that if they only “felt” they weren’t getting rich enough they could use ‘Guns’ (Gov-Guns) and go steal more?
Once upon a time part of growing-up was realizing your “feelings” didn’t put food on the table.
https://youtu.be/APo2p4-WXsc?si=HZSF40Zg9dReg6Kd
DAY TUK UER JURBS!!
If you can be replaced by an illiterate peasant who doesn't even speak the local language then you didn't plan well for your future.
What an elitist opinion. Tell me, why do you hate Americans who are on the lower end of the financial ladder?
You have to be pretty far down for an illiterate person who doesn't speak English to replace you.
Why assume hate? I mostly feel bad for people who either are not capable of doing complicated work or who failed to properly prepare themselves for life and work.
American Small Businesses Are Desperate for
ForeignLow Wage WorkersAmerican Small Businesses Are Desperate for
Foreign Low Wage Workersslaves.American Small Businesses Are the (Gov-Gunned-Down) slaves for Self-Entitled Low Productive Workers.
It wasn't named the "the [Na]tional So[zi]alist German Workers' Party" for nothing. The only inferred miss-interpretation is that 'Workers' required 'Gov-Guns' to work.
They don't have to capture the foreigners and force them to work. The power of the Dollar compells them to seek the job. The power of the Dollar brings them to the country to work.
Now if the Dollar falls and becomes an even trade with the peso they will stop comming here to work.
So the 'goal' is to make the USA as sh*tty as Mexico?
Well, if you want to put an end to all immigration then the only way it's ending is for the dollar to crash so instead of Mexicans coming north to take good American Jobs it will be Americans going south to take good Mexican jobs.
Well now you do sound like a lefty progressive.
American Small Businesses are Desperate for
Foreign WorkersFiscal Sanity and an End to Runaway InflationWhen I helped run a small business, several years ago, we actually needed foreign workers in some cases. It's difficult, but not impossible, to navigate the various forms and regulations to go through the process properly and legally get approval. It definitely needs to be streamlined and simplified. Because right now, it's a lot easier to hire an illegal immigrant with a fake SSID to do very low wage work, than it is to get a quality legal immigrant do do some skilled work.
Look at the labor participation rate, moron. There's a "worker shortage" because tens of millions of Americans are sitting in their Section 8 apartments with their bastard children getting more obese on free food.
^THIS - Exactly....
And employers don't have to worry about competitive wages with cheap illegals.
Welfare + open borders is the opposite of laissez-faire and the invisible hand.
No they're not.
They're desperate for the tens of millions of Americans who were lied to by the left-wing government, media and public education system, who are now living in their parents basement with six figure debt clinging to their utterly worthless college degree in Multi-racial Queer Theory Climate Studies crying into their smartphones hoping to get TikTok likes, thinking they're too good for the all the jobs that are out there being gobbled up by criminal aliens.
Deport the illegals, and start conditioning access to American goods and services - for everyone - via proof of legal employment.
When all you have is a hammer…
Send a list of job openings to all the refugees in New York with debit cards then.
They did. 2% took them up on the offer for work permits.
Yep. Democrats have to have that cheap landscaping done, and illegals will work for less than visa holders.
In less than 10 years the “we need foreign brown people to do our shit work” narrative will be widely considered racist.
At which point they’ll pivot to “well, we only phrased it that way to shut up the white nationalists. We were well meaning.” Lol.
I worked at USCIS to help process H1b visas. It was temp seasonal position. I got paid way more than than any lawncare jobs, I can tell you that much.
I saw little jobs that could be posted from a small business. 90 -95% was tech. Coding jobs mostly from huge companies. The rest was from specialized field that dealt with things like nutrition, language, music, etc. Maybe some of them were small business in the technical sense. But we're not talking about mom and pop joints here.
There is no overwhelming demand for foreign guest workers for most typical small businesses. Most of them can't afford the thousand dollars they need to pay to qualify for the visa lottery. I'm an immigrant and worked all kinds of small businesses, owned by immigrants, the entrepreneurs of our time. Not a one hired any guest workers. Did any of you work for a business that hired guest workers? There aren't many foreign guest workers in Koreatown small businesses, that's for sure. Lots of Latino workers, for obvious reasons.
The notion that businesses would go through the hassle of applying for outside help is dubious at best. Reason has to venture out to find exceptions - lawncare companies, crib makers, wine cellar owners, dairy farms. I guarantee you most migrants won't want to work at mowing lawns under the searing sun. As long as the state pays for their room and board, they'll hold out for something better.
The jobs I have seen the H1bs in were seasonal ag jobs including an “eco” tourism family farm just outside a major city and picking blueberries during the harvest time -or- tourism jobs at places just open for the summer. Ymmv.
Getting sick of far left european immigrants coming over (Fiona) and telling America how we have to do this or that....we don't have to live up to some far left woke or zionist ideal you have for us. You have some pet crusade...go back your country and do it there. We don't care about Trotsky losing to Stalin, we don't care what the Czar did 150 years ago, we don't care about all the eastern european wars and killings...leave us alone.
The logical conclusion of this argument is that the next step is slavery. Can't get workers to work for the low salary you offer? Import them from other countries. And once you get that and still have job openings, what's next? Forced labor.
If a small business cannot offer enough money to workers that they want to work for the business, then that business probably shouldn't be in business.
As it is, we already subsidize a lot of businesses with welfare. Don't make enough to eat? Hey, you can have food stamps. Don't get health insurance? Well, that still sucks, but there is some government assistance for that.
If the various levels of government would leave businesses alone then they could afford to pay more. The costs of regulation are high. Instead of cutting regulation regulation governments create programs, like the work visas to help them out.
The problem is, and always has been, too much government. 90% cut across the board is what is needed. But neither Republicans or Democrats want to do that so it won't happen.
Mexico has a culinary heritage of cannibalism, too. That sort of thing is not a great argument.
And it's a logical conclusion that when the government starts providing healthcare, it's going to start meddling in people's lives in ways to minimize medical costs
What the litteral fuck? I've never seen human on the menu at a Mexican restaurant.
Good article and it refutes the simple notion of accepting immigration by merit. America needs workers with broad set of skills, from those with a strong mind to those with a strong back.
How do your explain all these "hard workers with strong minds and backs" being unable to make a great nation of their own?
Your very observation is but a mirage in fantasy land.
America gives people opportunities. Many of those coming are from nations that imped people's opportunities. This is not new it is the way it has always been in America. Think of it like the Irish immigrant. No matter how hard he worked his little plot of land he could never advance, because it was not his land but the Lord of the Manner's land and all he was allowed to do was work the land. In America that same Irish immigrant could own land and his work would be his own.
"Many of those coming are from nations that imped people’s opportunities."
And those nations are governed by their people. Who turn around and vote here at 75% for the [Na]tional So[zi]alist party. Those coming aren't doing anything but running from their own self-made hellh*le. "Grazing for someone else's greener pasture to graze on."
Seriously? You don't understand the differences between the US and Europe? You don't understand the damage the drug cartels are doing to Mexico?
Immigration for the sake of immigration is working out really swell for the Europeans. The people of Britain, France and Germany are discovering the joys of having culturally backwards people within their midst. Speaking of which the German people just celebrated diversity and cultural enrichment the other day: The knife attack on Sterzenberger by outraged muslim animal.
https://youtu.be/44CxhebzJsY
Every group has its fruits and nuts.
Let's suppose that we can't get enough nomad labor because China takes it all, and they have room for it and pay better, less in money but more in other incentive plans such as quality housing, easy to get loans, better and more abundant food, and a friendlier all-around society that does not spend all its time on enculturing division and parasitic competition. (Just saying -- without sugar-coating everything.)
Realize that America is not feeding Americans but also the rest of the world. China clearly does the same. Their boatloads of cargo carriers have dropped labor from live crews to automated piloting and created new jobs in sectors that need them.
Someone else expresses on absurdity featuring a notion that contracts cannot be made with people from other nations to work for them seasonally because those persons have to enter through the American border. That is not likely to change until people can apply for work licenses to cross the border precisely such as you would apply for a driver's license to cross a section of interstate highway.
If you want to fix the system, first find out where to drill, then deliver the message, and finally find capable leader(s) willing to prioritize hitting the appropriate inkwell(s).
The ESSENTIAL premise of this article is BS. Businesses need COMPETENT workers. It isn't even theoretically possible for a business to need FOREIGN workers.
Go to hell FIona. Go move to a central american country and tell us how they love immigrants