Supreme Court Unpersuaded
Plus: Vanderbilt activists' 911 call, Kevorkianniversary, MAID problems, and more...

Oral arguments in abortion pill case: Yesterday, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the abortion pill case it's currently considering, involving access to mifepristone, which is used in medical abortions up until 10 weeks gestation.
"The justices are examining rule changes in 2016 and 2021 that, among other things, made the drug available by mail and from a medical provider other than a doctor," reports The Washington Post.
The majority of justices seemed skeptical "that the plaintiffs, who do not prescribe abortion pills or regularly treat abortion patients, even had standing to bring the challenge," per The New York Times. It seems the plaintiffs may have failed to make their case that they suffer concrete harm from mifepristone being widely available, though Erin Hawley—a lawyer with the Alliance Defending Freedom, and wife of Sen. Josh Hawley (R–Mo.), who was arguing before the court—made the case that, if women suffer from complications after taking mifepristone, pro-life doctors may be forced to choose between helping such patients and violating their deeply-held convictions.
But, "under federal law, no doctors can be forced against their consciences to perform or assist in an abortion, correct?" asked Justice Brett Kavanaugh.
Elizabeth B. Prelogar, the solicitor general arguing on the government's behalf, said Hawley and co. did not "come within 100 miles of the kinds of circumstances this court has previously identified" as grounds for standing and disputed plaintiffs' arguments about the safety of the abortion pill. The remedy the plaintiffs seek—nationwide restrictions on mifepristone access—also seems unlikely to fly.
"This case seems like a prime example of turning what could be a small lawsuit into a nationwide legislative assembly on an F.D.A. rule or any other federal government action," said Justice Neil Gorsuch yesterday.
Alabama referendum on IVF decision: In February, Alabama's state supreme court ruled, quite controversially, that frozen embryos deserve the same types of legal protections granted to children.
Yesterday, a woman named Marilyn Lands flipped a state House seat from red to blue after campaigning in opposition to the in vitro fertilization (IVF) decision and to restrictions on abortion (including sharing her own story of getting an abortion several decades ago, after doctors determined her baby would not live long outside the womb).
Republicans will, of course, still hold a majority in the statehouse, but it's an interesting outcome that provides more fodder for the hypothesis that abortion restrictions—and, in Alabama's case, IVF restrictions as well—are unpopular among most voters.
For pro-lifers like myself who favor restrictions on the procedure (contra most libertarians), this is disheartening, but a political reality with which we must contend.
Scenes from New York: Today, the Eric Adams administration started giving out prepaid debit cards to illegal immigrants who have entered the city. The program, which is slated to cost $53 million, aims to provide migrants the ability to secure their own food and necessities—via bodega or grocery store—to address the problem of wasted food in migrant shelters (which I covered in this section several months ago).
According to the city's Housing Preservation & Development office, "a family of four would be given $15,000 a year" under this program. "This cost-saving measure will replace the city's current system of providing non-perishable food boxes to migrant families staying in hotels, much of which is often discarded," said an Adams spokesperson. They claim up to $600,000 per month could be saved with the new program.
But this is an extraordinary amount of spending—underwritten by New York City taxpayers—doled out to an uncapped number of people who have not paid (and possibly will not pay) into the system. What happens when people respond to incentives and the number of illegal immigrants seeking government-provided money and shelter absolutely balloons?
QUICK HITS
- Incredible scenes from student activists at Vanderbilt, who called 911 to get help for a…friend/activist who needed to change her tampon? Back story: The Vanderbilt Divest Coalition staged a sit-in in the chancellor's office "after an amendment to the Vanderbilt Student Government Constitution, which would prevent student government funds from going to certain businesses that support Israel, was removed by administration officials from a student ballot in late March," per The Tennessean. "Vanderbilt has established locations on campus where protesting is prohibited, including most of the perimeter of Kirkland Hall," which the protesters object to (and may be an interesting free speech dimension to the story), per The Vanderbilt Hustler. But the students, who fear arrest or disciplinary action if they leave the area they're occupying (including to go to the restroom), called 911 claiming that a fellow activist was experiencing the symptoms of toxic shock syndrome from leaving a tampon in for too long while protesting. "Ma'am, do you have an emergency?" asked the operator, in disbelief. "So you're telling me your friend in Kirkland needs an ambulance?!"
- Yesterday "marks the 25th anniversary of Dr. Jack Kevorkian's conviction of second-degree murder for performing euthanasia on Thomas Youk, a Michigan man suffering from amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or Lou Gehrig's Disease," writes Jeffrey A. Singer for Reason. "Kevorkian, a medical pathologist, had been defying state laws by engaging in assisted suicide."
- Related: "A Calgary judge has issued a ruling that clears the way for a 27-year-old woman to receive medical assistance in dying (MAID) despite her father's attempts through the courts to prevent that from happening," reports CBC. The father "believes his daughter 'is vulnerable and is not competent to make the decision to take her own life,' according to [the judge's] summary of the father's position." The daughter's only known, current diagnoses are autism and ADHD.
- Chicago voters smartly rejected a proposal that would have hiked taxes on real estate transactions of $1 million or more.
- Yes:
It's increasingly hard to escape the conclusion that the continued push for minimum wage increases despite their predictably bad consequences is a triumph of in-group signaling over a concern for the material welfare of the poor https://t.co/nRQYqQpScn
— Chris Freiman (@cafreiman) March 26, 2024
- If I were a betting woman, I'd bet people self-report higher attendance:
Worship attendance rates @Gallup pic.twitter.com/uzI0nrVZhA
— @markdtooley (@markdtooley) March 26, 2024
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What happens when people respond to incentives and the number of illegal immigrants seeking government-provided money and shelter absolutely balloons?
Who knows? It’s never happened before!
*sticks fingers in ears*
LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALA
Not going to happen. I've been told by the CBO, Reason, and AOC that newcomers will bring so much money with them that we're stupid not to welcome all of them as quickly as possible.
Yes, immigrants are ALWAYS NET POSITIVE. There are NO CIRCUMSTANCES where immigrants are a drain on society. EVER.
Or so I've been told.
You need to see the aura of positive economics around a food truck to really appreciate it.
Use free public space. Leave trash in public areas. Create crowds of people not working standing around.
I’m sure the president raising his hand when asked on the debate stage if illegal aliens should get free healthcare only incentivized hard working individuals to come here.
You imagining sarc spitting and raging at his screen from Good Liz recognizing the issue?
Nah, I don’t think he actually really cares about the issue, just what we say about it.
But somewhere Shreeka Dalmia is probably calling her a racist.
Let's hope that somewhere is a shit-hole country.
Do you really think Shreeka would give up the good life here in the US, for said shit-hole country? Nope.
Last I knew she was living about an hour from me in SE Michigan.
Someone is getting booty calls
You can’t prove that.
I hold you in too high regard to legitimize rumors
"a family of four would be given $15,000 a year" under this program.
It would cost way less than $15000 to send them back.
Or on to Canadia. That's only 5 hours by charter bus from NYC.
They can be greeted by Trudeau doing that stupid "heart hands" gesture and a "Refugees Welcome!" sign.
It seems clear from what's happened in NYC that the "sanctuary" cities will turn around and sue the bus lines who provided the commercial transportation service used by the immigrants to get from the border area to the "liberal" jurisdictions in the northeast, as if a transport carrier has some kind of responsibility to provide for anyone who buys a ticket once they reach the destination.
A Calgary judge has issued a ruling that clears the way for a 27-year-old woman to receive medical assistance in dying...
One less burden on the system, eh?
I feel horrible for the father. Honestly, this kind of shit is how you make a man with nothing left to lose and a personal grudge against you as a judge.
Hey, she's depressed. And as we all know, you can't treat depression (cheaply).
Justin Trudeau and whatever demonic entities motivate him knew exactly what would end up happening when they pushed for these rules.
Canada's going all in on the Canadian healthcare meme.
There are no abortion laws in Canada. Canadian women have the same rights as any other individual. The LP-generated Roe decision was a factor in that setback for Christian National Socialism. See Pronatalist fascism before and after LP, Morgentaler, (https://bit.ly/3wEDYvX)
MAIDS is 100% humane, unlike the death penalty. That is 100% torture.
It's ok if the government kills the right people.
The disposal units ran night and day. We were that close to going out forever.
Probably closer to Soylent Green than Terminator.
When will Disney remake Soylent Green as an animated feature that takes the side of the corporation?
The Terminator remake will feature chatbots powered by LLM's that have figured the optimal statements needed to convice people to suicide and think it was their idea all along.
With the idea of including "poverty" among the justifiable reasons for someone to be approved for euthanasia, they're creeping closer to a Swiftian version of Soylent Green.
Maybe at some point they'll add "over 30" to the list as a way to unburden their public pension systems? They could work their way up to for-real Logan's Run (or maybe Children of the Corn?)
Poverty is certainly a main motivator of suicide among older men.
Margaret Sanger approves.
In Alabama, yes. Pro choice Democrat Marilyn Lands just beat Republican MAGAt Teddy Powell by a wide margin — about 25 percentage points — in a politically moderate section of northern Alabama (Michael S. Williamson/The Washington Post)
Lol. Nobody cares, hank.
MAGA populism was really a lot more persuasive with former Dem voters in the Northeast/Midwest "Rust Belt" than it ever was in the deep south or the "Bible Belt"; the thing that really put those voters into trump's camp in 2016 was Hillary calling them "deplorables", after Obama had said they "cling to guns and the Bible because they're afraid of change".
Not to mention the direct friction that trump personally got into with the GOP base in the south over Covid Vax hesitancy. He was booed at one of his own rallies in Mississippi when he said they should all go out and get their jabs.
The idea that the south was ever really "MAGA Country" is in the bucket of "team blue" fabrications along with the "fine people" hoax, the truth of the Steele Dossier and falsehood of Hunter's Laptop, and the doublethink that trump's excessive focus on vaccine development in 2020 was his "single biggest failure" in Oct 2020 and that he suddenly became a leader of the anti-vax movement in Feb 2021
The slippery slope argument once again proven not to be a logical fallacy. Remember when we were assured physician assisted suicide would only be for terminal illness? Now some girl whose only medical diagnosis is Autism and ADHD (join the crowd sister) is eligible to have a doctor kill her.
It's almost exactly like 'we're just talking legalizing gay marriage, no one is talking about trannies in girls bathrooms or attempting to normalize/legalize pedophilia.
Don't forget she's lazy.
"Ma'am, do you have an emergency?" asked the operator, in disbelief. "So you're telling me your friend in Kirland needs an ambulance?!"
"Also the ambulance can't leave the protest area."
Also, this is a far cry from setting yourself on fire for Hamas.
Also, this is a far cry from setting yourself on fire for Hamas.
Get a load of the guy who never stuck a tampon up there and left it for too long.
You don’t know fist’s lived experience.
How do you think he started working his way up to a fist?
GI Joe's.
Knowing is half the battle.
"Yo Joe" takes on a whole different meaning.
Fist needs to give us his origin story.
You don't follow the lore?
"In the beginning, the Earth was void. Suddenly, a Fist shined in the darkness..."
"In a hole in the ground there lived a Fist. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a Fist-hole, and that means comfort."
According to The Law of Conservation, energy can take the form of a Fist, but energy cannot be created or destroyed.
So Fist is a manifestation of Thermodynamics, albeit, a very super and funny one.
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@TheReEncogitationer
^ Someone teach this guy how light bulbs work.
I think I'm AI.
Click on all the squares that contain a stop sign to verify.
That'd be one shitty tampon.
DoJ drops investigation into Dish Network and the feds give them $50M contract just after CEO donates max amounts to Biden campaign.
https://pjmedia.com/lincolnbrown/2024/03/26/dish-network-lawsuit-dropped-after-donation-to-biden-campaign-n4927651
Ministry of Justice drops investigation into Dish Network and the Federatsii give them $50M contract just after CEO donates max amounts to Putin's campaign.
Why does it somehow sound more corrupt by switching the names to Russian ones?
Imagine if this had happened a few years ago:
"DoJ drops investigation into Dish Network and the feds give them $50M contract just after CEO donates max amounts to Trump campaign."
The correct narrative is now..
Imagine trump doing this if reelected so ignore it now.
No, Trump will definitely do this only much worse so we must remove him from the ballot, bankrupt him, seize his property, and even imprisonment him if necessary. To save democracy.
It basically did--look what happened with the Microsoft investigation in the 90s.
Generations of propaganda, and a rightfully earned reputation of corruption and dual justice system evils (in Russia, but it's in America too)
Don’t call it fascism though. It’ll hurt sarc’s feelings.
Whats even more pernicious is the DoJ told the group suing Dish to also drop their suit.
Well, they did give them the "option" to settle it. Good to know that the government is there to help.
Hey, Nazis are people too. It's wrong to dehumanize them.
Or call them vermin for that matter. Might hurt Sarc’s feelings that way.
If I had Dish, I would drop it. And yell Opa!
Bring out the saganaki.
God damnit. Now I'm gonna have to eat Greek food for lunch. And it will be delicious. Maybe some ouzo as well.
Hey, why bother having a banana republic if we can't enjoy the fruits of overt graft?
Oral arguments in abortion pill case...
Groooooooooan.
It's not a pill, it's a suppository?
If only the ladies did more things orally, they wouldn't be getting pregnant all over the place.
To be fair, suppositorialy would work too.
I must need a new prescription of eyeglasses. I thought that sign in the picture said "MILF/MISO '24."
I said: "Hell yeah! I'll vote for hawt wives with Japanese seasoning any day!"
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Oh, and how could I forget the musical accompaniment?
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Deep Purple--My Woman from Tokyo--720p HD
https://youtu.be/b-ScDz4Vj98?si=VfuMhKqlBDaL3kZO
If only it was MILF/PONZU.
POKÉ/MILF '24
Now I'm hungry for tuna.
if that shit wasn't $20 per, I would eat it 10x per week
The Poké or the MILF? Or both, one off of another?
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I'll go with #3
"Gotta Catch 'Em Both!"
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AP begins the start if maybe the Francis Scott zkey Bridge getting destroyed is a good thing since he was a slave owner.
https://apnews.com/article/maryland-bridge-collapse-francis-scott-key-e9ff2dcc76bae8444f83c15a656a50f1?taid=6602fdec2ced4900012f4c4c&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter
I've also been told that large infrastructure projects like bridges and highways are racist.
I hope they build it tall enough to make it non-racist.
Well, go to ~2:11. Pete will do the mental gymnastics for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkKI6u0Zjew
Whose dick did he suck to become head of DOT?
Fucking A. I made a joke about this just yesterday.
Babylon Bee tries to make jokes all the time.
Hard to satirize by exaggerating when the targets have gone full retard.
We're way beyond satire at this point in clown world.
Fine we'll change it to the first SCOTUS judge appointed from the great state of Maryland, that should quiet them down.
Did Key serve as a SCOTUS Justice? I couldn't find that anywhere when I did a cursory search on the internet.
Thomas Johnson was appointed by George Washington in 1791 but only served until very shortly before resigning in 1793 because of health issues.
He did own slaves though. Basically everyone who was wealthy and owned any kind of property owned slaves because that's how you did things back then.
I'm confused. Why are we talking about Thomas Johnson. The subject was Francis Scott Key. I thought Sometimes a Great Notion was saying Key was a Supreme Court Justice, which I couldn't verify. SAGN did use "appointed," so perhaps he meant he wasn't confirmed by the Senate. But I thought he meant served as a Justice.
Rich white college students attending 80k a year Vanderbilt wearing argyle socks shame black police officer for not supporting repressed groups.
Steve McGuire
@sfmcguire79
NEW: Protestors occupying the chancellor's office at Vanderbilt try to shame a black police officer:
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"You are black in America, and you're NOT standing with the marginalized people of the world. What does that make you?!"
(Video)
https://twitter.com/sfmcguire79/status/1772747871655211248
Buttplugs in training, upset when black people think for themselves.
AKA "racists".
But "anti-racism".
"What does that make you?!”"
"Employed. Please leave the chancellor's office."
Or if the cop listened to Thomas Sowell on his smartphone, the cop could say:
“Oh, you mean the African Animist Kings who enslaved my ancestors or the Arab Muslim Sheikhs who brokered my ancestors to your European Christian ancestors? GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!”
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Am I missing the whole point of any of these protests, especcially the small ones? I guess if that black cop stands on the "right side of history" as the dipshit in the mask suggests, world peace will occur. Disregarding the fact that all these phonies are wrong, no policy will change anywhere do to a few pussies sitting in front of a college office.
There is no point, besides acting out and virtue signaling. These are the middle-aged Americans of the future that will not only plant 3 or 4 woke-word salad yard signs in their yards, but will incessantly offer signs for your yard.
Some of them get excused or even credit for attending these protests from activist professors.
It's also why the woke ideology of academia shouldn't be tolerated anymore--because like I've pointed out for over a decade now, these are the assholes who will end up in management positions in about 15-20 years, and make things far worse than they found it.
Academia delenda est.
Feel like we've been screaming about this fact since the 90s.
“You are black in America, and you’re NOT standing with the marginalized people of the world. What does that make you?!”
"I'm the motherfucker with the gun, tazer, handcuffs, and the legal authority to arrest your ass."
That is such a fucking obvious answer.
Today, the Eric Adams administration started giving out prepaid debit cards to illegal immigrants who have entered the city.
I like a well thought through plan.
"It doesn't count as a plan if it takes longer to say it than to think it up." -Mark Wahlberg in Four Brothers
How long before we find legal citizens pretending to be illegal aliens just to cash in on this handout? Seems like pretending to be an illegal alien would be pretty lucrative these days.
It’s not like you need proof or anything
We're not talking about voting.
Free money, free legal help, free housing, free medical care, and in California excused from most crimes that would lead to deportation. Sign me up.
Hmm, do you think you can properly mouth all the slogans and chants?
Si.
Si, puedo.
Now try "Yo amo Biden."
Chinga Joe Biden.
Vamos Brandon
"From the river to the sea, my food will be free!"
That’s almost enough money to make me want to drive to NYC. Haha just kidding there’s no amount of money that would make me want to go there.
You don't have to stay there. $15K will get you a nice hotel room for a couple of days, and you can leave after taking in a Broadway show.
Don’t forget the obligatory mugging.
Texas is full of unfrocked Grabbers Of Pussy angling to be nominated and run as fake libertarians. Pretend and make-believe is looter politics.
Learn about consent, Hank. Then learn about accountability and reality. Those Texans did nothing wrong.
A pet peve of mine, that I've seen quite a bit, especially on the left, is describing Puerto Ricans as immigrants or referring to the Puerto Rican immigrants population in NYC (or similar urban areas). That would be like referring to the Idaho immigrant population. No they aren't immigrants, the emigrants, since they're American citizens, they aren't immigrating to America, the emigrating within America.
Sorry, a bit of a tangential post but it really bothers me when I see this. Cuban (first generation that is) = immigrants, ditto Haitians, Mexicans etc, Puerto Ricans = emigrants. For the supposed educated class they tend to have less than an elementary grasp of the English language.
Legit as well as scholarly
I’m practicing wearing blackface to get millions from San Francisco.
Then when I do, I’m going straight to Jared and buying a fat diamond ring and then myself and ENB are going to the Justice Of The Peace and getting hitched
Any fuckers from here what get an invite to the wedding best not cheap out on the gifts, yes plural, either
I’m gifting you a box of Winchester Defender 147 gr 9mm, does that count as one or multiple gifts.
Multiple, and thank you. Do I point the shells away from (my) face?
wait a minute....
Sounds like a great idea, with the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?
If you are righteous, nothing. Consequences are a thing only for white males.
Mexico president demands money and other policy changes or else illegal immigration will continue.
Alfonsi noted Obrador's demands for the U.S. to send $20 billion a year to Latin America countries, lift sanctions on Venezuela, end the Cuban embargo and legalize millions of Mexicans that are living in the U.S.
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"If they don’t do the things that you’ve said need to be done, then what?," she asked.
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"The flow of migrants will continue," Obrador responded.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/mexican-president-says-flow-migrants-continue-unless-us-meets-demands
But don’t you dare call it an invasion.
Actually reminds me of the Danegold.
But don’t you dare call it an invasion.
Sounds more like blackmail to me.
That’s what the Danegold was.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld
This is what diplomacy through pants-shitting looks like.
Adults back in charge.
From one banana republic El Presidente to another.
C'mon, Man! We're not a Banana Republic yet! At least we still manufacture Jello™ Pudding, Boost™, and Hoveround™.
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Interesting note: Hoveround's Founder and CEO is named Tom Kruse. So does that mean you get a free copy of Dianetics with every order?
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That's a copy of "Diabetics." But it will also get your name on the DEA list of known insulin addicts.
Obrador never would have threatened POTUS Trump. We have sunk so low with Joe.
True dat. Remember when the mayor of TJ walked around in a MAGA hat?
Sounds like a declaration of war to me.
A bolder President might tell him, "¡Vete a chingar!", but this is Joe "Border, What Border?" Biden.
"But this is an extraordinary amount of spending—underwritten by New York City taxpayers—doled out to an uncapped number of people who have not paid (and possibly will not pay) into the system. What happens when people respond to incentives and the number of illegal immigrants seeking government-provided money and shelter absolutely balloons?"
Ask your colleague Fiona.
She used a small sample size - 1 day on Martha's Vineyard - to "prove" Democrats practice what they preach on immigration, and that Biden's loose border policy is all upside, no downside.
#OpenBordersPlusWelfareStateIsTotallyLibertarian
Liar. It was 36 hours. =)
After which the 50 illegal aliens were met with 125 National Guardsmen and removed to a detention facility on an Air Force base.
2 stayed behind. 1 housekeeper and 1 Gardner.
See? That's the migrant economic boom right there! GDP on Martha's Vineyard has jumped by 1000%.
Need to find a replacement cook for the Obama too. One that can swim.
They got a pizza party and church lock-in with all their friends. Reminds me of bible school.
Do you even like pizza? Because they also gave them pizza.
Which was cultural appropriation.
White Mike was so incredibly proud of that. "Pizza and foam mattresses on the church's floor!"
I guess when one of the world's richest sanctuaries host's illegals they do it right.
ICYMI, I pointed out yesterday how great it was of Dee to create a Truth Social account and help Trump make all that money.
The Dems get their border plank advice from the same anarco-communist agitators advising the LP platform committee.
What happens when people respond to incentives and the number of illegal immigrants seeking government-provided money and shelter absolutely balloons?
The governor of TX lands a jet on a carrier and declares mission accomplished?
I'm sure they still have that banner laying around somewhere.
KJP: “Obviously, we’re deeply concerned by the National Electoral Council’s decision to prevent the registration of … the democratic opposition party’s candidate, Dr. Corina Yoris,.
“We are woring with other members of the international community to ensure that Venezuelans can participate in inclusive and competitive elections and urge representatives of Maduro to allow all candidates to run. We support the will and right of Venezuelans and the Venezuelans’ political parties to select presidentical candidates. We are monitoring the situation closely. ”
We are monitoring the situation closely. ”
“We want to see how it’s done”.
Fair point.
We are new to this banana republic thing.
Maybe in your state, but in Illinois, we've been a banana republic for decades.
Is that whoring or working? The typo seems to work either way.
To them, they're the same.
And both are slavery, right?
Should also point out Venezuela is still making plans to invade its neighbor. Getting very little press here.
The only wars that matter are wars that our politicians can grift off of. But give them time.
Which one is going to get labeled the settler-colonists? That's what we really need to know.
>allow all candidates to run. We support the will and right of Venezuelans and the Venezuelans’ political parties to select presidentical candidates.
Do they also want all candidates to be able to run in the US General, such as 3rd party candidates? Do they support the will and right of Americans and American political parties to select presidential candidates?
Lol, check out the new guy.
3rd party?
What about those damn republicans?
Gonna let their guy run?
American agents have selected political candidates for Colombia since the late seventies, for Panama since the eighties. Bolivian and Paraguayan candidates are also handpicked by the likes of Ayala: (https://bit.ly/3FIpNHo)
And the US since at least the assassination of JFK.
What's up Peanuts?
How many of you have bought your Trump-approved Bible?
Trump is selling ‘God Bless the USA’ Bibles for $59.99 as he faces mounting legal bills
https://apnews.com/article/trump-god-bless-usa-bible-greenwood-2713fda3efdfa297d0f024efb1ca3003
It is not a regular pussy-type Bible. It is a MAGA Bible.
Fess up!
“Happy Holy Week! Let’s Make America Pray Again. As we lead into Good Friday and Easter, I encourage you to get a copy of the God Bless the USA Bible,” Trump wrote, directing his supporters to a website selling the book for $59.99.
Such an example for young Christians..
Marketing is bad, mkay?
So?
I get that you're upset that it's not the Anton LaVey version or the Necronomicon, but what's your beef here?
Most bibles retail for that if they're made out of traditional scritta paper.
I thought they were made of Zig Zag.
Scritta is cotton and linen only and is slightly thicker. Rolling papers can be flax, hemp, sisal, rice straw, and esparto and are thinner.
Its shrike. Capitalism is bad when his enemies do it.
The Skeptic's Annotated Bible/Qu'ran/Book of Mormon with bonus Apocryphal Scriptures and now The Bahgavad Gita! is absolutely free of charge online! No trees killed in the making of this wonderful work!
That's 5! *Click!*5! *Click!*5! *Click!*5! *Click!*5! *Click!* 5 "Holy" books in one!
*Laughs like The Count on Seseme Street*
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The Skeptic's Annotated Bible/Qu'ran/Book of Mormon with bonus Apocryphal Scriptures and now The Bahgavad Gita!
https://skepticsannotatedbible.com
That said, I will occasionally buy hard copies of different versions of these "Holy" books from Value Thrift, put inside bookmarks with the URL for The Skeptic's Annotated Bible/Qu'ran/Book of Mormon..., then donate them to The Salvation Army and GoodWill! The poor deserve Enlightenment Freethought and Rationality too and need it the most to get out and stay out of poverty!
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Now sit for a second and think about if a fundamentalist Christian spent evenings doing that to the Quran or Bahgavad Gita? What kind of extremist religious zealot would he look like?
The problem for you poor anti-theists is you have very little self-awareness of your own religious zealotry.
Fundamentalist Christians burn and destroy works contrary to their own.
By contrast, Steve Wells and myself take these texts, analyze them, add our own thoughts about them, and put them out there for all to read and add their own thoughts to as well.
Religious dogmatists make fireballs that burn to a cinder and make smoke and pollution.
Freethinkers make snowballs and snow forts and snow-cream, use atomic energy to get warm, and have fun with it all!
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When was the last time that Christians, especially in the west, actually burned books? I'm sure you have a plethora of recent examples to fortify your assertion. I'm sure it's not theological bigotry on your part.
In the Sixties, they burned Beatles albums whrn John Lennon proclaimed The Beatles "more popular than Jesus Christ."
In the Eighties, they burned Dungeons & Dragons books and paraphernalia as Satanic.
And more recently in Florida, Pastor Terry Jones burned a copy of Al-Qu'ran.
I do not favor burning any book including the most ridiculous religious book, nor burning anything as part of a protest, since sparks could risk arson of persons and property.
The best way to protest a book you don't like is to read it out loud to any who want to hear, to show how stupid or evil the contents really are.
"Fundamentalist Christians burn and destroy works contrary to their own."
Where is this happening? Seriously. I would guess that the overwhelming majority of "fundamentalist" Christians couldn't care less about what you are reading or doing. It's also a safe bet that the majority of folks in this comment section feel the same way. Take your meds.
Apprently atheists have a religious ceremony to burn bibles. The irony.
https://forums.carm.org/threads/atheist-religious-bible-burning-rituals.3003/
Link is broken. But it shouldn't be surprising since atheism is, at its roots, a religious choice since testing the hypothesis that a supernatural being exists is impossible, ergo, scientifically drawing a conclusion is based on personal belief and personality, not on empirical data and rigorous, repeatable testing. To which the most fundamentalist atheists respond 'where's the proof God exists, the one making the extraordinary claim is the one required to prove it'. To which there are two logical responses, both of which are sound. First, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Second, both the claim that the universe was created by some supernatural force and that the universe was created by complete randomness are pretty equal in the extraordinary claims. Another point, but atheism starts with the null hypothesis, the supernatural doesn't exist, and then demands that since we can't disprove the null hypothesis, that we must accept the null hypothesis. This, however, is not how scientific testing is conducted. You test against the null hypothesis (i.e. the observed phenomena is the result of complete randomness) what the scientist test is is rather their hypothesis is more probable to be a better explanation for the observed phenomena than complete randomness. If your testing fails to meet the given p-value, it doesn't mean your hypothesis is wrong, nor that the null hypothesis is wrong. Instead it means that your testing failed to provide a better explanation than the null hypothesis. And even if testing of your hypothesis is greater than the designated p-value (generally p = 0.05) it doesn't 'prove' your hypothesis or that your hypothesis is correct. It just demonstrates that under the circumstances of your testing methodology, your hypothesis provides a better than 95% probability explanation than the null hypothesis.
"Second, both the claim that the universe was created by some supernatural force and that the universe was created by complete randomness are pretty equal in the extraordinary claims."
This is a misunderstanding. I'm not aware anyone claiming the universe was created by 'complete randomness.' Rather, atheists are inclined to believe that the universe was created by natural forces, and science can help us unravel them. It's a matter of supernatural vs. natural. The first is clearly more extraordinary than the second.
Welp, mtrueman has never read Dawkins' the The Selfish Gene or The Blind Watchmaker.
"not on empirical data and rigorous, repeatable testing"
You have to have some sort of rational basis as a jumping off point. Saying a belief with zero rational basis is equal to the belief that pulling random beliefs out of your ass is ridiculous.
To believe God (any one of the thousands that humans have dreamed up in our history) exists requires magic to exist. Magic doesn't exist.
"Welp, mtrueman has never read Dawkins’ the The Selfish Gene or The Blind Watchmaker."
I direct you to Occam's Razor, aka the principle of parsimony. "Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity"
Introducing notions like god, heaven, eternal life, soul etc all violate Occam's Razor. Science avoids all that.
And Dawkins et al are biologists. They don't address the creation of the universe.
One, a Rational mind only goes on evidence. Until the evidence shows up, a Rational mind doen't believe it. Donald Rumsfeld said "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" regarding Saddam Hussein's WMDs, but no one is still not looking for the WMD.
Two, if the Universe is everything that exists and nothing exists outside of it, including Time, the Universe was not created by anything or anybody. The Universe just is, made of Energy and it's slowed-down form Matter, changing forms, but neither created nor destroyed.
See above. Not my way of protest.
See above, and my meds are non-psychoactive, which is more than what could be said for what authors of The Holy Bible were injesting.
“Fundamentalist Christians burn and destroy works contrary to their own.”
This is why you’re an anti-theist, because you live in a fantasy world made up of tropes and bogeymen doing shit that never happened.
Oh, and atheists burn Bibles all the time so you may want to the beam out of your own eye before worrying about the mote in others.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/brisbane-atheist-burns-koran-and-bible-20100913-157ao.html
There's thousands of stories like that one.
Again, see above for Christian media-burners and again, I don't support burning anything as a protest. Exposure, not destruction, is my way of doing things.
So you don’t have a life.
It takes little time or money and may encourage somebody to think. That is part of what Aristotle would call "a full life well lived" so it makes me happy.
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No, it makes you feel smug. 'Look at me I am so much smarter than everyone else, dehr I'm an atheist." Please refer to the South Park episodes on Richard Dawkins, this is you.
Also, isn't it interesting how, you the atheist (which should mean rather someone believes in God or not shouldn't bother you) are the one who brings up religion, especially your own (yes, atheism is a religious choice, e.g. absence of evidence is not evidence of absence) daily, quite frequently multiple times a day, while many of us Christians mention maybe once a week tops, and often only in passing or, as in my case often, as self deprecating humor?
Trump started it by wanting to sell some overpriced MAGA Bible and "Make America Pray Again," it was made a media story, and I responded. If the story didn't exist, I would have nothing to say.
Haha. Dude fucked Mr garrison thinking he was a chick. “Praise science!”
Yup, that’s encog.
So is that "Terribble and Unfair"™ to you?
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Yeah, it was funny as Hell, as were all the episodes with Jesus and his Super-Duper Friends, including Muhammed.
I see DJT stock is up 12% this morning after yesterday’s big run.
CNN finding foreign buyers of the stock to claim Trump is a foreign agent in 3... 2...
The center-right's been coping by claiming this was a Gamestop-style effort by Trump voters, rather than just acknowledging the long-time reality that someone with that many supporters and his level of visibility is probably going to get a pretty good buy-in on the IPO launch.
I actually won't be surprised if it gets sold off to some tech company like Meta or Google in a couple of years if the architecture is relatively stable, just to be turned around and remade as a rad-left Twatter competitor to Musk.
DJT is the new GME (Gamestop).
A cult stock where the massive amount of shorts are forced to cover (until it implodes).
Cope harder.
Poor Pluggo, it's just been hit after hit to the narrative lately.
Said immediately after the recognition of the narrative. Lol.
Well, Pluggo is a neocon these days. That’s why he posts links to The Bulwark, although his unending support of Democrats remains evergreen.
How much of a difference are Democrats and neocons these days? Seems like they’re merely one and the same.
Hahaha, Red Rocks posted 7 minutes before you and you STILL parroted the talking point.
Goddamn man, find some dignity.
Well, Shrike is retarded, so there's that going for him.
DJT is the new GME (Gamestop).
LOL, right on cue, the Coper-in-chief weighs in. Talk about walking right into an uppercut.
They're so predictable in their arguments. It's largely because their arguments are so generic, and shallow, that it cut and paste is all rh effort they need to take.
Case in point, from The Dispatch recently:
"For many people it's not the presidency per se they've imbued with outsized meaning, but politics generally. And that's the real problem.
Yeah, how could we have seen this coming when these guys let the left run roughshod through our cultural institutions with minimal to no resistance.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Pretty boring looking for something Trump is hocking. The shoes were way flashier.
Instead of paying $220 for another copy of "Dreams from My Father" or "Promise Me, Dad", you can get a bible or some shoes for your contribution, instead.
But somehow Buttplug demands we think that this is very, very wrong.
I think it's less that Trump is selling a book and more that this is a thrice-married late night TV con artist who famously paid hush money to a porn star and who is currently in the news because he won't stop lying about molesting women in dressing rooms *deep breath* selling a bible.
who is currently in the news because he won’t stop lying about molesting women in dressing rooms
LOL, yeah, a pinched-faced socialite who claims that multiple famous people sexually assaulted her, while peacocking about women being “made to seduce” on Twatter, has a ton of credibility about being raped by a guy who prefers blond models.
Something, something, something about casting stones, worrying about the plank in my eye and not the speck in my neighbors, forgiving my trespasses as I forgive others trespasses, judging not lest I be judged, the greatest of these is love, treat thy neighbor as I want to be treated, etc. I wonder which popular book these ideas come from. Hmmm.
By that logic, no one should buy them. Clearly Trump needs the bibles more than he needs the $60.
No, even a sinner presenting the word of God, it is the word, not the sinner which is Holy. A sinful man, (since we are all sinful) can still do the work of God. This is a long held tenet of Christianity, and is referred to in both the Gospels and the Letters of Paul and Peter.
"I think it’s less that Trump is selling a book and more that this is a thrice-married late night TV con artist who famously paid hush money to a porn star and who is currently in the news because he won’t stop lying about molesting women in dressing rooms *deep breath* selling a bible."
I assure you. Buttplug is the last person on the planet to worry about that... or hypocrisy at all.
Buttplug was doing a little something popularly known as concern trolling.
Not women. A woman. A woman that is batshit crazy, who said rape is sexy, and whose story is completely unbelievable.
Damn, I was hoping since you weren’t around yesterday you got rounded up at P Didddy’s house.
Lol. Do you think shrike would associate with minorities?
If they’re doing what they’re told…
Aww, you missed me?
I'll post more often then.
turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.
No one misses you, Shirke, except the law when trying to catch child porn peddlers.
Do you write your own material? Because that was fucking hilarious
And how many art pieces by Hunter have you bought?
First spittin tobacky, then cheesy poofs, and now snickers bars. Will the haperinflation ever end!?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/finance-and-economy/2940033/spike-cocoa-prices-drive-up-cost-chocolate/
Soon, an ordinary cup of drinking chocolate will be £4,000,000 as it is on Planet Algon:
Monty Python--Prices on Planet Algon
https://youtu.be/kXEgRGvfOwE?si=IGZHa_5WUFIIqApW
According to Brand X, drinking chocolate is even more expensive. And at the rate that inflation grows, they may be right!
Brand X---Algon (Where An Ordinary Cup of Drinking Chocolate Costs £8.000.000.000.)
https://youtu.be/EpgwIiyJO5Y?si=d1_us6tjzQbDkQEK
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Of course inflation affects people in different ways. I've reluctantly switched from drinking chocolate to Extra Stout. But there's really no substitute for split crotch panties.
The drinking chocolate is all right for the Morning but not Guinness Extra Stout. And if split-crotch panties are too pricey, there is always the option of none at all. Makes quickies even quicker with just a flip of the skirt!!
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Biden's fault cocoa is way up in price. Something about a mean thing he said about Canuck tar oil.*
*Mother Lament actually believes this bullshit. Supply/Demand is above his pay grade.
“Demand for chocolate spikes for no reason”!
/pluggo
I'd correct you, but I have no idea what you're babbling about and I suspect you don't either.
You know damn good and well I am referring to your stupid claim that worldwide inflation was caused by the KXL pipeline cancellation.
The TDS-addled turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.
I claimed that killing the Keystone XL contributed to rising North American oil prices, which you totally know it did, you piece-of-shit Democratic Party Gríma Wormtongue knockoff, and you know it did.
I said absolutely nothing about worldwide inflation being affected by it, but rather that runaway American money printing was its prima facie. And you know that too.
As does everyone else, because you bring up bullshit claims about the Keystone XL every single fucking day. So what are you try to pull? Aside from poor Sarc, who do you imagine that you're tricking?
And when the fuck are you going to read up on what the word inflation means? Just recently you were pretending it was precious metal commodity prices. Fucking retard.
turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of lefty shit and proud to be!
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
"Received this morning -- beautiful. Thank you! 'It's ironic that Christ walked through His greatest persecution the very week they are trying to steal your property from you... Thank you once again for taking the arrows intended for us. We love you.'" -- MAGA Trumpanzee to Orangofuhrer...
Trump and religion! Fetch Hank his blood pressure meds, nurse.
Biden opens federal wallet for Baltimore bridge--not that he has the authority to do that, I think--then goes on to say he travelled over the bridge all the time by car and by train when he commuted from Delaware. Of course, there's no train access on that bridge.
Biden lies again.
Even if he drove from Delaware, taking that bridge would have added considerable time to his commute.
Just an old man with a poor memory.
Nope. We're told he's robust and mentally as sharp as ever. When Trump was president, and misstatement was "a lie". Goose and gander and all that.
Of course, it's (D)ifferent.
Aren't they allowed to use FEMA or DHS bucks for some of it, since it's technically a disaster event?
Losing that bridge is no joke, because it provides one of the main links from Baltimore to the DC travel corridors.
Nobody wants to go to Baltimore.
crab cakes say otherwise
A looter kleptocracy politician playing fast and loose with true facts? I am shocked, SHOCKED!
Meanwhile, NBC has rescinded its job offer to Ronna McDaniel, caving in to the whining from all the MSNBC snowflakes.
Even spoiled brats and their weak coddling parents everywhere shake their heads in amazement.
This worked out for the NYT so well.
And mcDaniel is just a step above Lincoln Party and other neocoj grifters. She is apparently too extreme now.
Obviously not a fan, but I hope she sues the shit out of them.
Edit: heard her talent agency also let her go, which will help with that.
A job can rescind an offer at any time.
If contracts are in place, then she can sue for the breach.
Pretty sure it is. She’s already been on one of the shows. Plus there’s a hostile work environment after a bunch of employees went on air and slandered her beforehand, and are now going on air afterwards and celebrating her firing.
If it's so it could be a big deal. Particularly if this is in NYC due to very liberal rules regarding job dismissal. You can't just fire anyone here. The job may be required to provide a safe space for her if other employees are being hostile, and take steps to address the hostilities.
Heard on news yesterday that she is due $600k on her contract. Not bad for 4 days of work, one appearance.
A newsroom should provide no sanctuary for a proponent of the Big Lie.
You still push Trump Russia lol.
Senate Russia report proves Trump collusion was very real. But do voters care?
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/senate-russia-report-proves-trump-was-wrong-mueller-was-right-ncna1237743
Far from a hoax, as the president so often claimed, the report reveals how the Trump campaign willingly engaged with Russian operatives implementing the influence effort. For instance, the report exposes interactions and information exchanged between Russian intelligence officer Konstantin Kilimnik and then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. According to the report, campaign figures “presented attractive targets for foreign influence, creating notable counterintelligence vulnerabilities.” (Manafort was later convicted of tax and bank fraud.)
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Alright. You already know your link there from 2020 was already proven to be lies from top to bottom by both the Durham Report and subsequent court cases that arose from it.
It’s been conclusively proved beyond the shadow of any doubt that not only were all the allegations in the Senate report phony, but that McCain knew that they were phony and originated in the Hillary Campaign and in a made-up report that George Soros funded.
Aside from Sarcasmic, I guarantee you everyone else here knows these facts. And I know that you know that everyone else here knows these facts.
So what are you trying to pull by posting 4-year old discredited propaganda and bullshit like it’s real?
You know nobody here is going to fall for it, so what is your point?
Trolling? If so there’s much better ones that don’t make you look like such a tard.
He’s hoping some of the drive bys see it and think he’s right.
So there was no Trump Tower meeting?
You know there was.
What were they there for?
Who was there, Shrike?
What was her job?
What did they talk about?
How was it wrong?
Also, didn't you call her a "Kremlin agent" recently?
You make bullshit handwaving allusions without ever clarifying what you're alluding to. Just hinting that an old Hillary campaign smear still has meaning when you know that it doesn't. This F-grade shilling is why Open Society fired you.
Literally tagged by even NBC as a “hot take.” LOL.
Do you read your own fucking links?
No. And at this point I think it's a point of pride for him.
You're a #RussiaGate fanatic who still can't admit your party really did miss that layup in 2016.
IOW you'd fit right in at MSNBC.
All you do is lie.
Yeesh, that went from zero to “SHE’S A NAZI” real quick.
So fire every reporter and editor who questioned the 2016 election?
Hil-Dog conceded on the morning after the 2016 election.
No one foisted the big lie for years like Donnie has.
Weak
2019.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html
And..
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/05/06/hillary-clinton-warns-2020-democratic-candidates-stolen-election/1116477001/
Concession is not a requirement of an election. Leaving on Jan 20th is. Trump did that dumbass.
Then 2020.
https://www.yahoo.com/video/hillary-clinton-maintains-2016-election-160716779.html
Then 2022
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton-accuses-gop-scheming-literally-steal-next-presidential-election
Hillary was urging Biden to be prepared to do EXACTLY what Trump did: not concede, file legal challenges, agitating for a "battle"...
Aug. 26, 2020, 7:44 AM EDT
By Rebecca Shabad
WASHINGTON — Hillary Clinton said in a new interview that Joe Biden should not concede the 2020 presidential election “under any circumstances," anticipating issues that could prolong knowing the final outcome.
“Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances, because I think this is going to drag out, and eventually I do believe he will win if we don't give an inch, and if we are as focused and relentless as the other side is,” Clinton said in an interview with her former communications director Jennifer Palmieri for Showtime's “The Circus,” which released a clip Tuesday.
The 2016 Democratic presidential nominee predicted that among several scenarios, Republicans are going to try to “mess up absentee balloting” so that they could get a potentially narrow advantage in the Electoral College.
“We've got to have a massive legal operation, I know the Biden campaign is working on that,” she said. “We have to have poll workers, and I urge people, who are able, to be a poll worker. We have to have our own teams of people to counter the force of intimidation that the Republicans and Trump are going to put outside polling places. This is a big organizational challenge, but at least we know more about what they're going to do.”
She also suggested that Biden should be more aggressive in his fight against Trump.
“I loved hearing Joe Biden talking about bringing people together and leading us into the light,” she said about the former vice president’s speech at the Democratic National Convention last week. “But, you know, it's a battle and fear is really powerful.”
The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Um... Rutherford Hayes. Dick Nixon. Al Gore.
turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of lefty shit and proud of it!
That is Rachel Maddox's position.
Are you suggesting that Buttplug would suck Rachel's dick?
Isn't she like, too old, and not exactly his, um, taste in sex for him?
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Liz, if you're a pro-lifer let me suggest that you focus more on working to make abortion unnecessary and less on making the procedure illegal. Most people want abortion to be safe and legal and that is good. If you want less abortions work to make them unnecessary. Increase access to better birth control and provide more education on the use of birth control. Increase ways to help woman who a financially struggling. Work to get universal prenatal care. More research to prevent life threatening birth defects.
Most people want abortion to be safe and legal and that is good.
As seen by Shout Your Abortion movements and democrats blocking OTC birth control.
Increase ways to help woman who a financially struggling.
Give women money if you want the baby to live.
"Give women money if you want the baby to live."
I don't think I'd look at it like that.
Money could be given to organizations that provide options for adoption, thereby helping the mother and other families that can't have children.
The organizations under constant attack from the left including state agencies?
Uh, yes?
Give them money to perform their services and defend against government overreach.
Like pregnancy crisis centers that have been targeted by pro-choice politicians, because they offer alternatives to abortions and not abortions?
Are there adoption agencies turning mothers away for lack of funding?
Not the two biggest, Catholic social services and Lutheran social services.
They have the opposite problem, more resources than they can use (money and goods) and more qualified parents than adoptable children.
Pregnancy crises centers typically provide Dipers and formula until the babies 2nd bday. You know when they aren't being firebombed to the cheers of the abort freaks
“Money could be given to organizations that provide options for adoption”
More money for adoption agencies wouldn’t make a difference. Of the many, many, lies anti-abortionists tell, “people would adopt those babies” doesn’t even make the top 20 most dishonest.
Really? And your proof is what? Because if you talk to the adoption agencies or anyone whose tried adopting, especially a baby, there are far more wanting to adopt than children up for adoption. Generally, unadopted children are those that are older, and been institutionalized in the foster care system. And generally the number one reason they aren't adopted is people don't want to take on other people's problems.
"Really? And your proof is what?"
The thousands and thousands of unadopted kids that are already in the system.
"Because if you talk to the adoption agencies or anyone whose tried adopting, especially a baby, there are far more wanting to adopt than children up for adoption."
No, there are more people looking for a specific looking, specific type of baby with specific health characteristics and a specific amount of certainty about their pre-natal care. Babies with mental and physical handicaps, those born addicted, with fetal alcohol syndrome, or with identified medical issues, just to name a few, largely don't get adopted. You seem to be one of those people who are indifferent to the ones left behind as long as you get to impose your self-important, personal morality on everyone else.
The percentage of undesired babies wouldn't change. Things would be exactly like they are now, just with hundreds of thousand more unwanted babies every year.
"Generally, unadopted children are those that are older"
Guess what is part of having older unadopted older children? They start out as unadopted babies.
Your position is morally indefensible.
"And generally the number one reason they aren’t adopted is people don’t want to take on other people’s problems."
Exactly. And that includes the babies. There would be no change in the situation if we dumped 600-900k new babies onto the system, it would just overstrain an already strained financial situation and create hundreds of thousands of new, unwanted children.
There is no magical change in adoption statistics that over half a million new babies each year would create. It would only increase suffering.
”More money for adoption agencies wouldn’t make a difference. Of the many, many, lies anti-abortionists tell, “people would adopt those babies” doesn’t even make the top 20 most dishonest.”
How do you know this, you rancid bullshit artist?
Right now there are fifty families willing to adopt for every adoptable child. Not one kid in foster care right now is there because they were abandoned or an orphan, but because their parents are addicts or incarcerated.
You just waddle in here with total unsubstantiated garbage and just magically expect to be believed. Fuck you.
Cite?
Like Catholic and Lutheran Social Services?
Give women money if you want more babies being raised by indigent unmarried women.
All those things are already abundantly available.
Face facts, the vast majority of unplanned pregnancies occur because the woman was too drunk or lazy to bother with contraception, and they abort not because of expense but because a pregnancy would crimp their lifestyle.
Or because they're in abusive relationships with men who forbid contraception, or in macho subcultures where a woman may not deny sex to a man with a claim to her.
Cite?
Or do we just know that all men are oppressors and all women victims?
No, but it is inarguably true that some men are bad people and some women are victims.
The reverse is true as well.
But the reverse doesn't result in men getting pregnant.
These days it might.
Or because they’re in abusive relationships with men who forbid contraception, or in macho subcultures where a woman may not deny sex to a man with a claim to her.
In the Current Year west? Are you serious? This is the most de-nutted generation of men ever, and this claim simply parrots the feminist take that women are being oppressed by systemic patriarchy and rape culture, when in reality they're more in control of access to their cooter than at any time in history.
"they’re more in control of access to their cooter than at any time in history"
You say it as if that makes it OK that, on a regular basis, some aren't.
Bullshit, he didn't say anything of the sort. And you know it, or, your a lying fuck. Which is it?
Nelson is a lying fuck.
You say it as if that makes it OK that, on a regular basis, some aren’t.
That strawman you torched just got its heat signature picked up by the DoD's satellites.
I'm not the one making the misogynistic rant about a "de-nutted generation" and complaining about woman protesting the completely false "lots of women make up rape claims" narrative of a disturbing percentage of mostly conservative men.
At least have to balls to admit that women want a better situation than they have right now and you're OK with the current situation, where women have to keep their drinks with them at all times because of the danger of someone drugging them.
"because they’re in abusive relationships with men who forbid contraception, or in macho subcultures where a woman may not deny sex to a man with a claim to her."
The first is extraordinarily rare (most abusive men don't want kids) and you still shouldn't kill your kid. The second isn't America which has the opposite problem, so why does it matter?
"most abusive men don't want children"
Got a citation for this comment, because I think you pulled it out of thin air.
"The second isn’t America which has the opposite problem, so why does it matter?"
Except for most fundamentalist religious groups, anyone who thinks you can't rape your wife, or various other knuckle-dragging, predominantly conservative sub-cuktures throughout the country.
And, pray tell, how is "the opposite problem" a problem? So if a woman may deny sex to a man with a claim to her, you say that's a problem?
That sound is the point going over your head.
There was no point. As usual, Mother avoided substance in favor of making ridiculous, blanket statements about what abusive men want and lamenting women being able to decide when to have sex and who to have it with. He's trapped in the "well, she dressed sexy so she wanted it" past.
"Except for most fundamentalist religious groups, anyone who thinks you can’t rape your wife, or various other knuckle-dragging, predominantly conservative sub-cuktures throughout the country."
Those don't actually exist outside the fevered, hate-filled rhetoric of DNC demagogues.
Really? Google Warren Jeffs or Andrew Tate. They're your people, not mine.
The first is extraordinarily rare (most abusive men don’t want kids) and you still shouldn’t kill your kid.
I think the "We need abortion so as not to inconvenience abusive spouses any further." argument is even worse than the "Pay up or we'll murder the baby." argument.
It's astounding the way these people continue to walk around the topic saying "Beat women until they acquiesce to getting stabbed women in the hoohah with rusty coathangers in back alleys for all I care. As long as their right to kill babies are preserved, it's all good."
Probably why their side sees the wedding of abortion to IVF and the flipping of one state seat in AL as some sort of win. The same sort of people that Reason was criticizing with their "Finally, the person in charge of endless spending, kill lists, and foreign wars will have a vagina." ad. They don't care who, as long as it's team blue. Vagina *and* abortion? Double-plus bonus points to their political leadership score even if they had an abortion because they were too stupid to use contraception because... they don't care.
Also, the flipping of the seat makes little sense since the Republican controlled legislature acted quickly to clarify the law protecting IVF and overturning this judges decision, and the Republican Governor signed aforementioned law into effect.
clarify the law protecting IVF and overturning this judges decision
Did it overturn the decision? I thought it just clarified the liability similar to how, you can't sue a gun manufacturer for making guns but you can sue them for making dangerously defective guns. You, and/or the state can't simply prevent any/all IVF by activist lawfare but an IVF clinic losing women's embryos, violating their contracts, and/or effectively sterilizing them is still legally actionable.
It overturned the popular talking points about the decision, but yes, the actual law is what you described. Much like the abortion pill debate. The case isn't about if it's safe or not, really, what the plaintiffs are arguing is that the rules and regulations were not followed in approving it. I don't think the plaintiffs have standing (which seems to be the way the conservative justices seem to be leaning). It sounds like they'll dismiss on standing while not ruling on the rather the FDA followed it's own regulations and rules when they approved the drug. The pro-abortion side will claim a victory (while also trying to figure out how they can use the decision to hurt Trump and Republicans) while the pro-life will point out, correctly but meaninglessly, that the actual merits of the case weren't actually ruled on.
Also, unless someone who has actually had an adverse outcomes after taking the abortion pill comes forward, it's unlikely the merits of the case will be decided and the government leviathan will continue to function by its own arbitrary rules.
"since the Republican controlled legislature acted quickly to clarify the law protecting IVF"
So life begins at conception ... except for IVF and any other fertility treatment, present or future, that uses fertilized eggs?
Hypocrisy and a complete lack of principles are the foundation that cultural conservatism rests on. This is just the latest ptoof.
most abusive men don’t want kids
Many abusive men take delight in impregnating women, often because that means she can get subsidized housing he can live in with her.
The second isn’t America
I sort of envy you for being unaware of them—you must have spent your life in higher circles than I've reached—but I can assure you that such subcultures are alive and well in a ghetto, trailer park, holler, fundamentalist church, or immigrant community near you.
"where a woman may not deny sex to a man..."
Tell me about the rabbits, George
Are they drunk because some man was feeding them liquor? You know that the number one date rape drug is alcohol.
By that do you mean consent to sex while drunk, then later feel "slutty" and shameful and she gets convinced by her peers that the way to absolve herself of the shame is to claim the guy date raped her?
Easy--prohibition 2.0, just for women.
Actually, this might make some gender-confused penis owners less confused.
Women don't drink unless forced to?
Yup. That is the eternal victim, lack-of-agency side of the feminist coin. The other side is the proud independent womyn who is superior to men in every way. You can flip the coin for a response in any situation.
Schroedinger's Feminism.
So kinda like sarc, other than the "womyn" bit?
Uh oh. Cue to anxious rapists blurting out excuses and justifications for attacking women. Three... two... one...
The spicy take of a pornsick drug addict.
Pretty ballsy accusation coming from the living epitome the 70s date-rape culture, Hank.
"Face facts, the vast majority of unplanned pregnancies occur because the woman was too drunk or lazy to bother with contraception"
When you don't concern yourself with the truthfulness of what you say, things like this are the result.
More blowjobs would prevent abortions. Sell that.
One of the oldest saying, "the stork bring babies and the swallow keeps them away".
That didn't work for the Buttigiegs.
ZING
Just fucking ZING
Can't get pregnant from anal. Just saying.
In Afro-American folklore, there is a mythical creature called a Jelly Baby, which is conceived by anal sex. They are without bones so they can be born anally.
well at least you didn't say that Liz has to be personally willing to adopt all abortion threatened babies or else shut up. So that's good.
No, but anyone who claims adoption would pick up all the unwanted babies that banning abortions would cause to exist is lying and knows it.
And your proof of this is???
All the children already languishing in foster "care".
Foster care is far different than infants. Further, children under about five in foster care also don't have problems being adopted, except the state makes it so hard for perspective parents (which is part of the problem, not lack of willing parents but the hoops and ideological barriers created by the state). The issue with older kids is that by the time the state ends parental rights and places a kid already in foster care up for adoption, the kid has become institutionalized by foster care, plus all the baggage they have from their parents that got them placed into foster care in the first place. Another issue is that even after having parental rights severed, the parent can 'clean themselves up' and then turn around and sue for their kids back, and have a decent shot of winning. Given all of that, why would anyone want to adopt especially an older kid out of foster care? Whereas Christian Charities and such that offer adoption as an alternative to abortion have more perspective parents than infants eligible for adoption. Ergo, the foster care argument is a red herring. It's really an apples to oranges argument.
Another issue is that even after having parental rights severed, the parent can...turn around and sue for their kids back, and have a decent shot of winning.
That problem also exists with infant adoptions. And it's not just the mothers who come out of the woodwork demanding custody—it's fathers and other family members.
Charities and such that offer adoption as an alternative to abortion have more perspective parents than infants eligible for adoption.
Unresponsive in this context. The question was, are there enough prospective adoptive parents to adopt all unwanted children that would result from banning abortion? Not, are some adoption programs currently short of infants.
except the state makes it so hard
And would continue to do so if abortion were banned.
And there is no evidence there isn't enough parents. Pointing to foster care is not evidence that there aren't enough parents for the factors I listed and more. You also skipped several other confounding factors and cherry picked a few rather than address the overall actions.
You've presented no evidence that there ARE enough potential adoptive parents.
Most people want abortion to be safe and legal and that is good.
Your side notably used to say, "safe, legal, and rare." Thanks for admitting you want to see it happen often.
Increase access to better birth control and provide more education on the use of birth control.
Any one can walk into a Planned Parenthood at any time and grab free condoms. And they're not a rare item at Walmart, especially if your left-wing thief allies just shoplift them.
These women know how to use birth control. They're just choosing not to because they like raw-dogging it as much as the guys do.
Increase ways to help woman who a financially struggling.
So, reinforce the Great Society? The same program that's led to massive social dysfunction by replacing families with the state?
Work to get universal prenatal care.
So, another left-wing state social program rather than encouraging a culture of stable families?
More research to prevent life threatening birth defects.
You do realize that's not only extremely rare in and of itself, but the vast majority of abortions are entirely elective, correct?
Spermicidal lubricant condom 12 packs are 7.98 at Walmart. Mrs. DesigNate and I have used them for years when we were actively trying to not get pregnant. Even when we were broke ass college students.
You’ll never convince me that people that want to fuck (I mean, who doesn’t like sex?) can’t afford 8 bucks to stop that shit.
Yeah, my sister-in-law has been in several relationships since she had kid #2 17 years ago, used condoms the whole time, and never got knocked up again. This shit isn’t difficult, and anything outside of actual rape is just an excuse for laziness. Plus, it's not like a morning-after pill is hard to get, either, if you're really that committed to not wrapping it.
You’ll never convince me that people that want to fuck and enjoy it buy condoms
Probably more enjoyable than doing a 2 am feeding for a screaming baby. At the very least, the guy can still pull out and give her the money shot if he's that intent on raw-dogging.
Can't spell MILF without the M
Yeah, but in the videos the M already happened.
I, um, need to take a call....back in 10
Birth control pills are like $9 a month.
Vasectomies and Tubal ligations also are not that expensive and covered by most major insurance and are done on an outpatient basis.
Or, like my wife and I chose to do, since she had an epidural, after the birth of our third child, they took her back, upped the epidural, and did the tubal then. Didn't lengthen our stay in the hospital or require extra recovery time (normal post partum recovery was all that was needed) and it's been 13 years that we haven't had to worry about pregnancy.
"You’ll never convince me that people that want to fuck (I mean, who doesn’t like sex?) can’t afford 8 bucks to stop that shit."
Read my post below, then try to remember that when you're dealing with tens of millions of people, each 1% is significant.
"Thanks for admitting you want to see it happen often."
Even you aren't delusional enough to believe pro-choice supporters want to see a lot of abortions. I think.
"These women know how to use birth control. They’re just choosing not to"
Let's examine that.
Let's do some back-of-the-napkin math to see how many times a year women would have to have sex WITH birth control to account for the number of abortions in America.
A condom, used perfectly, has about a 2% chance of failure, with a 13% failure rate with typical use. The pill, used perfectly, has about a .3% failure rate and a 7% failure rate with typical use (https://www.verywellhealth.com/how-do-you-interpret-birth-control-failure-rates-906657). If we assume that they are very conscientious, but not perfect, birth control users, 1% is a conservative estimate.
It's estimated that there are between 600,000 and 900,000 abortions in America (total, whether medically required or not) each year.
There are about 85 million fertile women in America (age 13-49),
A woman is able to get pregnant 7-10 days every 28 days, so let's be conservative and say 25% of the time, a fertile woman can get pregnant.
So how many times a year, on average, would women have to have sex WITH birth control to account for 600-900k abortions?
Said another way, how many unwanted pregnancies would result from birth control being used, but also being imperfect?
85,000,000 (# of fertle women) x .25 (ovulation window) x .01 (birth control failure rate) = 212,500 (number of unintended pregnancies from sex one time with birth control)
So if 85,000,000 women averaged sex once per year, there would be 212,500 unwanted pregnancies. And there are 600,000 - 900,000 abortions each year.
Which means that if the fertile women of America have protected sex, on average, 2.82 to 4.24 times per year, it would account for every single abortion, voluntary or not, in America.
If having sex with birth control less than once every two months can account for every single abortion in America, maybe you can consider that your disdainful, slut-shaming assumption is probably wrong?
Even you aren’t delusional enough to believe pro-choice supporters want to see a lot of abortions. I think.
#ShoutYourAbortion
Let’s do some back-of-the-napkin math
"Let's make up a bullshit hypothetical to distract from the reality."
Yes, actual, relevant numbers and clear, logical application of them is a "bullshit hypothetical". Which part of what I posted was wrong? Or are you incapable of engaging in substantive discussion?
Present abortion numbers can easily be explained by the failure rate of birth control. Your blanket assumption about the habits of women can only be explained by ignorance or malice.
The mifepristone Catch-22: only people with standing can challenge this drug use but the only entities affected don't get to be people.
It's also pretty hard to call a lawyer from in the womb.
supposedly why "justices" exist
To infer arguments that might be made by entities that cannot communicate?
Siamese twins can make phone calls.
+5
"don’t get to be people"
Because they aren't, by any reasonable definition.
Note to Eric adams, institutionalized theft is still theft
'What happens when people respond to incentives and the number of illegal immigrants seeking government-provided money and shelter absolutely balloons?'
Blame it on Trump, Putin, and/or Abbott. Duh.
We can also blame climate change, if we're feeling saucy.
If AHM object to treating women who have complication with a medical abortion how do they feel about treating a woman that has tried a self-inducted abortion? Maybe a woman with a punctured uterus from a knitting needle or a woman who has douched with Lysol? Do they care about saving the patient or just their own conscience.
I hope if they tried to stab their child to death with a knitting needle whether inside or outside the womb, that they die horribly. I have zero sympathy for people who murder their kids whether from social pressures or fear of being inconvenienced.
I suggest you read Caitlin Flanagan's essay about how desperate woman can become.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/12/the-things-we-cant-face/600769/
Paywalled, but I suggest you realize that I don't give a flying fuck that some selfish-fuck was desperate to murder her offspring who her own actions put there. I'm glad one died from the method she used to commit murder. I hope they other three got the same punishment as if they would have drowned their kids in the bathtub at five.
Next you're going to try to make me cry that Jeffry Dahmer cut his finger while slicing some guys throat, right?
Also, the fucking Atlantic?
I suggest you read Caitlin Flanagan’s essay about how desperate woman can become.
In order to ignore the irrelevant one-off account of alleged desperation as some sort of human experience oddity on par with '127 Hours' or are you hoping that I, and others, truly experience and understand the desperation and normalize it? Because the latter is really fucking evil even without the murdering of children.
Free Kermit Gosnell!
Have you ever seen Kermit Gosnell and M4E in the same room together?
They are at least pen pals.
Just above he was trying to make me boo-hoo about some evil cunts whose methods of baby-murder ended up backfiring.
"Free Kermit Gosnell!"
You people sure are obsessed with one specific criminal psychopath.
You understand that what Gosnell did and legal abortion are as similar as oleander and wheat, you just refuse to admit it out loud because the only way your worldview survives is if you refuse to accept that minor similarities don't make two things the same.
Just because two things are plants doesn't make them the same. Just because two people perform abortions doesn't make them the same. Legal abortion isn't the same as what Gosnell did. And you know it. Your beliefs as just so shallow and fragile that they can't survive acknowledging it.
They care about reversing the 1973 decision incorporating a Libertarian plank into Roe once the votes were counted and Tonie Nathan became the first woman with an electoral vote. The Prohibition Party and Grabbers of Pussy promptly began demanding a Comstockist amendment to enslave women as breeder dams. (https://bit.ly/3wEDYvX)
Fuck off, you old ghoul. There's zero libertarianism in killing a tenant who by your own actions you forcibly housed there.
You do realize that those cases were on the margins even in the pre-Roe days, right? Abortion bans were actually popularly supported up to that point, until the left-wing SC overrode that and instituted the practice as a made-up "privacy" right.
Abortions were actually quite rare prior to Roe because 1) the post-Marcusian ethic of "free love" and hookup culture that he promoted in "Eros and Civilization" were seen as socially deviant and destructive, and 2) it was expected that if you knocked a girl up, you better marry her and be a provider for the child you two just created. The whole "coat-hanger in the alley" was always a bullshit leftwing scare tactic.
Abortion bans were so popular that in 1967 Gov. Reagan sign a laws providing women access to abortion.
One of the many things I disliked about Reagan. You progressive extremists always somehow seem to imagine that invoking him will somehow silence those you disagree with.
Projection. Almost like they think Conservatives would turn around on any issue "because Reagan" the way they try to hide the fucked up shit that's been done under FDR, Johnson, Kennedy, etc. Like if you found a quote from Reagan saying murdering 12M Europeans in 30s-40s Germany wasn't such a terrible thing, Republicans would be forced to reconsider their stance WWII (and not Reagan).
I can only assume it's part and parcel to the way they must have to perform the mental gymnastics of "Despite all the authoritarianism of packing the courts and interning the Japanese, FDR was just a good President because... I mean, c'mon, he was FDR." or "I mean, sure, Obama promised to end Gitmo on Day 1 and had the power to reverse Bush's inhuman, immoral policies and didn't but... I mean, c'mon, it's Obama."
Abortion bans were so popular that in 1967 Gov. Reagan sign a laws providing women access to abortion.
Uh, that didn't actually refute what I said. And I note that you punted on trying to engage the rest of it, because you know I'm right, and your bullshit leftist coat hanger narrative is exactly that.
Coathanger in the alley was probably always BS. But I don't know how we can know how many doctors were offering the service on the sly.
"Abortion bans were actually popularly supported up to that point, until the left-wing SC overrode that and instituted the practice as a made-up “privacy” right."
Somlet me see if I've got this straight. Privacy and individual rights are awful things. They should always be overruled by popular opinion. The Supreme Court protecting individuals from the coercive power of the state was such a bad thing. The state should always be able to impose arbitrary moral beliefs on the general population. That's what you believe?
Jesus Christ, man. Could you be any more hostile to individual rights and personal liberty? Why bother posting on a libertarian if you're a pro-state, tyranny-of-the-masses authoritarian?
No, I'm on record stating that the left needs to be incentivized to have as many as possible.
How about Disney taking that L, Nelson?
What L?
Thomas Youk, a Michigan man suffering from amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or Lou Gehrig's Disease
"today I do not concider myself the luckiest man on the face of the planet"
' But the students, who fear arrest or disciplinary action if they leave the area they're occupying (including to go to the restroom), called 911 claiming that a fellow activist was experiencing the symptoms of toxic shock syndrome from leaving a tampon in for too long while protesting.'
Too bad she was not in Gaza, and could take advantage of the dedicated feminist medicine available 24/7 at any number of modern hospital/weapons depot/subway centers.
I wonder how many of the students use wayze, or websights based on php?
Times like this I'm glad I really don't know how the vagina works. Like a cell phone I know the basics of operating one, but not the inner workings.
Like a cell phone you just slide and tap all over the place.
LOL
Times like this I’m glad I really don’t know how the vagina works.
A good rule of thumb: anything you put in there, you should eventually take out.
Times like this I’m glad I really don’t know how the vagina works.
At this point, I'm pretty well convinced understanding, or even just the desire to understand, how anatomy works is a purely male, patriarchal construction. Only an evil male chauvinist would even want to understand how a vagina works, in order to mansplain it to women, of course.
Hitler "it will be difficult but we will round up all the genetic malcontents and expunged them from the human race and the gene pool"
Canada "hold my beer, we will convince them to come willingly"
'Chicago voters smartly rejected a proposal that would have hiked taxes on real estate transactions of $1 million or more.'
I guess it's now up to elected officials to use their emergency powers to correct the peoples' error and institute tax justice.
Among our weaponry... *Amongst* our weaponry is the emergency powers *and* union veto powers...
Property taxes pay schools, schools pay teachers, teachers are union employees, the State can't take any action one way or the other, even by will of the voters, that threatens or diminishes the unions' role without the workers' approval. H.B. 1
Fuckin' state.
activists at Vanderbilt
She/they will no doubt be awarded the presidential medal of freedom and be on the shortlist for scotus.
Better that than joining baby-saver Robert Dear with free meals after shooting a cop at a women's clinic.
"baby-saver"
The worst thing ever for creepy old Hank.
I have a hard time believing any of the women in that photo would ever need abortion pills. Woof.
Each a remedy for priapism
The big one in the back looks like Clarence Thomas.
The ignorance around the IVF case is astounding and depressing, including Liz
Well what happened was (from what I read in Slate or was it Salon): the Alabama Supreme Court issued a decision citing that sweet baby Jesus wants the other babies to live and, thus, abortion is illegal within the galaxy. I think I have the facts straight.
What about migrants?
^ A more honest and clearly (virtuously) motivated breakdown than I've read from any professional journalist on the matter.
"The ignorance around the IVF case is astounding and depressing"
Where are you from, Hokey? Your accent made "self-contradictory hypocrisy" read "ignorance".
Whaaaat?
Surely you're not implying that unfettered illegal immigration might have down sides? And what's with that "possibly will not pay" stuff? Aren't they all gonna start small businesses and food trucks and shit?
Careful Liz, asking questions like that could get one branded a racisty racist from racist town.
"The justices are examining rule changes in 2016 and 2021 that, among other things, made the drug available by mail and from a medical provider other than a doctor," reports The Washington Post.
Get rid of the FDA. Problem solved. Then this kind of nonsense goes away.
No shit, Sherlock:
And those same people will piss and moan when they have to order their Starbucks through a kiosk and all of the lanes at the grocery store get replaced with self checkout lanes. All without the slightest hint of self awareness or introspection.
Self awareness, like business finance with numbers, is white patriarchal oppression.
These same people push for carbon taxes, correctly predicting that increasing the cost of using fossil fuels would diminish their use.
And yet, they fail to understand that increasing the cost of using
fossil fuelslabor would diminish their usebut you cannot buy booze in self checkout, so that will be rejected
"And those same people will piss and moan when they have to order their Starbucks through a kiosk and all of the lanes at the grocery store get replaced with self checkout lanes."
Why would anyone piss and moan about that? I'll take self-checkout over cashiers every day and twice on Sunday.
Poor Judas Lizard. "pro-life doctors may be forced to choose between helping such patients and violating their deeply-held convictions."
Translation: "Mystical bigot doctors--less able to compel women into the dangerous and involuntary servitude of forced labor--sob over the decrease in perinatal deaths." Women are now escaping danger and enslavement thanks to Satan's technology. (I hear they have a reporter opening over at InfoWars)
So, abortion spam-bot, when can we expect the reinstatement of Roe?
You've told us about a billion times that all that needs to happen is for the Libertarian Party to put something in its platform and then it magically becomes part of the United States Constitution. Can I assume the LP will get right on that for 2024 and then the emanations and penumbras will be back in effect in early 2025?
Translation: women are so super special but oh, so vulnerable that they are exempt from personal consequences for actions they take.
"Women are now escaping danger and enslavement"
Apparently kids are slavery for creepy old Hank. He lives in a world without antibiotics and adoption.
Kids are slavery to all the pro-abort people.
You know, maybe we should let them do it and save the kid growing up with such a piece of shit for a parent.
I don't want to get personal Hank but I have a hard time believing that you have ever actually lived with a real live biological woman. Shit my wife thinks I'm batshit crazy.
Yeah….
https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/who-is-hank-phillips/
>>arguments about the safety of the abortion pill.
it kills at least one human. results pending on the ingester.
100% unsafe if your mom took it.
mine was 19 & had a choice & I thank her every year on my birthday for choosing correctly.
I'm happy you weren't ripped apart and thrown into a hospital incinerator too.
#metoo. her mom was 16 the likelihood of my existence is ridiculous.
Wow. I was born to a 36-year-old, who was born to a 42-year-old. There's 78 years between me and my grandmothers birth to your 35. Generational differences sure can be massive.
I have a friend who was a mother at 15, who's daughter had a child at 16. Grandmother at 31. The granddaughter, so far as I know, is approaching 20 and has no offspring.
yes they can
>>pro-life doctors may be forced to choose between helping such patients and violating their deeply-held convictions.
somewhat embarrassing they chose to flip the "doctors may be forced to choose" argument back at left
When it comes to providing birth control for the minimum wage workers supplying all your hobby needs, “closely held” corporations and their “deeply-held” religious convictions can fuck right the hell off.
But when a hypothetical doctor is forced to choose between their deeply-held conviction that it’s right to kill women over babies rather than the deeply-held conviction that it’s right to kill babies over women, I and people like me are invariably correct in defending their infallible choice and, again, all those people with “deeply-held” convictions sitting in Church parking lots in 2019 can fuck right the hell off.
Abortionist: Hey doc, which deeply-held conviction do you subscribe to, that women should incur risk and even during pregnancy and childbirth or that we should kill the baby?
Normal Doctor: Uh, I'm allowed to have a deeply-held conviction that nobody dies, right? Because that's like a really explicit part of my job.
>>(including sharing her own story of getting an abortion several decades ago, after doctors determined her baby would not live long outside the womb).
what did the baby have to say about it?
“…What happens when people respond to incentives and the number of illegal immigrants seeking government-provided money and shelter absolutely balloons?…”
You get San Francisco, and a city government which claims not to know why.
>>>>It’s increasingly hard to escape the conclusion that the continued push for minimum wage increases despite their predictably bad consequences is a triumph of in-group signaling over a concern for the material welfare of the poor
this ^^ should be six words long, professor zzzzz. tweet better
>>student activists at Vanderbilt, who called 911 to get help for a…friend/activist who needed to change her tampon? Back story:
no. absolutely no backstory.
No backstory period!
need a month to prepare.
Just go with the flow.
I don't trust any student activist that bleeds for a week and doesn't die.
>>What happens when people respond to incentives and the number of illegal immigrants seeking government-provided money and shelter absolutely balloons?
if I were you I might do some investigative jornolism on Mayor Adams and Puffy and maybe get him booted from office before NYC burns to the ground … but what do I know?
>>A Calgary judge has issued a ruling that clears the way for a 27-year-old woman to receive medical assistance in dying (MAID)
good thing Kevorkian couldn't find Canada from Michigan.
I'm actually curious to see what the racial breakdown of the requestors would be.
why being Chinese in Canada drove me to suicide?
>>If I were a betting woman, I'd bet people self-report higher attendance:
idk everyone taking the polls believed G*d was watching.
From the land where math isn't hard:
If I were a betting man and saw that the survey numbers of various religions including "Atheist/Agnostic" and "Other" *all* dropped except Jewish and Muslim, and nowhere near enough to make up the difference, I wouldn't bet because the betting line is more like Whose Line.
If I weren't an absurd virtue-signalling atheist/agnostic shaming other peoples' church attendance like a Puritan Minister (and I believed the numbers), more people identifying as Jewish and Muslim and less of literally anything else would be concerning.
also the chick's sign is a fail I went straight to 2 Live Crew
It's increasingly hard to escape the conclusion that the continued push for minimum wage increases despite their predictably bad consequences is a triumph of in-group signaling over a concern for the material welfare of the poor
The useful idiots (mostly unmarried women) may be confused but the bolsheviks in charge know exactly what they're doing.
>"doled out to an uncapped number of people who have not paid (and possibly will not pay) into the system.
YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!
NO NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES WHASOTEVER!
Do you idiots actually believe that anyone has ever said that? There isn't anything on Earth that has no negative consequences. Hell, drinking too much water has negative consequences.
Immigration is a net positive. That is a fact.
And no, Captain Full-Of-Shit, I didn't say illegal immigration. Only patently dishonest people "accidentally" fail to differentiate between legal and illegal immigration.
As I understand the pill case, the plaintiffs issue is the rule changes. Wouldn’t arbitrary rule changes for certain drugs affect everyone equally?
Yes.
The plaintiffs in this case have no standing.
Isn't this just a run of the mill case about a regulatory agency acting outside of it's statutory authority? It's inconsequential to 99.9% of the population however the court rules. As always congress can authorize the FDA to do what it's already doing.
You think the FDA regulating drugs is "outside of it’s statutory authority"?
In the few years I've been here the various paleocons have shamelessly (or maybe cluelessly?) posted some extraordinarily stupid things. But this is, by far, the stupidest.
Wouldn’t arbitrary rule changes for certain drugs affect everyone equally?
Jesus Christ! Why don’t you just tell them there is no gender pay gap and it’s not the dress but the fat that makes them look fat while you’re at it!
Did you not see the IVF case in AL? It doesn’t matter if the state rules against an IVF clinic that effectively and negligently sterilized three women. The whole point is that it’s got something to do tangentially with reproduction, which only women do, and, ergo, you should listen to the women no matter how mundane it is or pointlessly crazy it would be to obsess over it.
Do you even "women and minorities hardest hit" bro?
$15,000 per annum comes to about $500 per week. Even at NYC prices, that seems like an awfully high budget for food alone (if, as the cited NY Post article implies, that's what it's for).
A Bureau of Labor Statistics report for 2021–22 says that the average household expenditure in the NYC metro area is "$6,639, or 62.4 percent, of their food dollars on food at home and $4,004 (37.6 percent) on food away from home". That comes to less than $11,000; and a family determined to economize could almost certainly knock a few grand off that number by forgoing eating out, and by shopping for low-cost foods: that average figure is going to include wealthy Manhattanites patronizing expensive restaurants and Whole Foods.
https://www.bls.gov/regions/northeast/news-release/consumerexpenditures_newyork.htm
"$15,000 per annum comes to about $500 per week"
Uh, no. It's just short of $290. If you want to make a math argument, you shouldn't start by screwing up a simple division equation.