Trump Files Defamation Lawsuit Against ABC for Saying He Was Found Liable for Rape Instead of Sexual Assault
The defamation lawsuit is the latest in Trump's campaign of lawfare against media outlets, but all of those suits have failed so far.

Former president Donald Trump filed a defamation lawsuit yesterday against ABC News and TV host George Stephanopoulos for claiming that a New York jury found him liable for rape, when in fact the jury had found him liable for sexual assault.
In a complaint filed yesterday in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, Trump alleges that Stephanopoulos defamed him during a March 10 interview with Rep. Nancy Mace (R–S.C.) in which the host repeatedly said that a jury found Trump liable for rape in the lawsuits brought against him by E. Jean Carroll.
"You've endorsed Donald Trump for president," Stephanopoulos said to Mace. "Judges and two separate juries have found him liable for rape and for defaming the victim of that rape. How do you square your endorsement of Donald Trump with the testimony that we just saw?"
In 2019, Carroll claimed that Trump raped her in a department store dressing room in the '90s. Trump denied the allegation, saying Carroll wasn't his type and that she made up the story to sell copies of her book. Last year, a jury awarded her $5 million after finding Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation, and earlier this year a judge affirmed an $83 million judgment against Trump for defaming Carroll again.
Trump's complaint is correct that, as a technical matter, he was found civilly liable for sexual assault under New York state law, not rape, because the jury did not find that he penetrated Carrol with his penis.
However, U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan, who presided over one of Carroll's lawsuits, directly addressed the semantics of the jury's findings in an order last year, noting that the New York penal code's definition was far narrower than how the word is used in the common parlance or even other comparable state and federal criminal statutes.
"The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was 'raped' within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump 'raped' her as many people commonly understand the word 'rape," Kaplan wrote. "Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that."
The jury's finding "necessarily implies that it found that Mr. Trump forcibly penetrated her vagina," Kaplan continued later in the order. "And since the jury's answer to Question 1 demonstrates that it was unconvinced that there was penile penetration, the only remaining conclusion is that it found that Mr. Trump forcibly penetrated her vagina with his fingers—in other words, that he 'raped' her in the sense of that term broader than the New York Penal Law definition."
Kaplan's order was in response to a motion from Trump's lawyers appealing the jury award on the grounds that it was excessive because Trump had not technically "raped" Carroll under the statutory definition. Kaplan wrote that the argument was "entirely unpersuasive."
Trump is not interested in litigating the truth so much as attempting to punish media outlets and chill criticism through expensive lawsuits. Trump and his 2020 reelection campaign filed numerous defamation suits against media outlets over comments regarding the former president's alleged collusion with Russia and his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic.
But as Reason reported last year, those lawsuits have all been failures. In every case, Trump's lawyers failed to meet the high bar established in the landmark 1964 Supreme Court case New York Times v. Sullivan. Sullivan established that, to prevail on a defamation claim, public figures must show that the publishers knew the statements were false or acted with reckless disregard for the truth.
In every case, federal judges found that Trump's sweeping allegations of political bias failed to meet the constitutional standard for showing actual malice. He was also recently forced to pay $392,000 in legal fees to The New York Times in another failed lawsuit over the leak of his tax files.
Unsurprisingly, Trump has also repeatedly complained over the years that libel laws need to be "opened up" to remove the strong protections that news outlets have enjoyed from defamation lawsuits since Sullivan.
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They used Jesse's favorite word!
This is such a dishonest fucking article it’s practically a Joe Biden attack ad.
Look at this garbage, Sarckles:
“Trump’s complaint is correct that, as a technical matter, he was found civilly liable for sexual assault under New York state law, not rape, because the jury did not find that he penetrated Carrol with his penis.”
This is like inferring out of the blue that you raped your child by saying “Sarcasmic was not found liable for rape, because the jury did not find that he penetrated the child with his penis”.
The sheer sleaziness of this should earn Ciaramella his pink slip today, but of course orangemanbad so expect this sort of drivel for the rest of the year.
OrangeManBad?!?!
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See The Atlantic article https://feedreader.com/observe/theatlantic.com/politics%252Farchive%252F2016%252F10%252Fdonald-trump-scandals%252F474726%252F%253Futm_source%253Dfeed/+view
“The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet” or this one…
https://reason.com/2019/09/02/republicans-choose-trumpism-over-property-rights-and-the-rule-of-law/
He pussy-grab His creditors in 6 bankruptcies, His illegal sub-human workers ripped off of pay on His building projects, and His “students” in His fake Get-Rich-like-Me realty schools, and so on. So, He has a GREAT record of ripping others off! So SURELY He can rip off other nations, other ethnic groups, etc., in trade wars and border wars, for the benefit of ALL of us!!!
All Hail to THE Pussy Grabber in Chief!!!
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Did you ever actually read that seven-year-old Atlantic article, Shillsy?
Did you notice that they stopped repeating most of the "scandals" in it four years ago? Try to guess why.
Also, what's with your pathological inability to quote from a current article?
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It's like when Snopes pulls the "PANTS ON FIRE IT'S ONLY 82% not 85%!" on Trump while giving "somewhat true" to the most buck-wild and provable lies from people like Sanders.
The left is intrinsically dishonest and universally discredited.
Punk Boogers is intrinsically dishonest and universally discredited. 'Cause authoritarians and null-skull shitarians SAID so!!!!
I didn't read the article because I don't care. Just saw the word "lawfare" and figured Jesse would swoon.
You don’t figure things very well. You’re an idiot that has further sustained extensive brain damage from your severe alcoholism.
Now fuck off.
What novel construction or arbitrary application exists with this suit retard?
How are you so ignorant on basic words?
Man. You love intentional ignorance.
It's not intentional; that presumes the shit-pile can imagine the result.
This is simply abysmal ignorance.
Hey, dipshit! Without any personal jibes.
What is that dumdum?
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Hookers and blow. Hmmm. Sounds like Plugly’s favorite dick pic lad.
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Spermy sure sounds like Sqrlsy.
This particular case may be frivolous, because the repulsion damaging difference between secual assault and rape may be negligible. However, events over the last decade have shown that news organizations have played very loose with defaming material, like KC Chiefs young fan who was accused of wearing blackface because a reporter chose to virtue signal and got his organization shut down.
I hope he takes them for a billion dollars and the judge requires ABC to put up a billion dollar bond just to appeal the case.
You keep hoping Trump is going to win in court. (With Trump Litigation: Elite Strike Force on the case, how could he lose, right?)
How many days before New York prosecutors get to seize his assets? How long before the woman he defamed and assaulted gets to deposit $80 million Trump dollars in her bank account (which, apparently, she intends to use to kick right-wing assholes around in the culture war)?
It's morning in America. Almost jail time for Trump, though. I wonder whether Peter Navarro, Allen Weisselberg, Paul Manafort, and the Un-American Insurrectionist Choir will pass along any tips for Trump on preparations for incarceration.
This is shit even Putin would get red faced pulling against a political opponent, but look at your Nazi ass celebrating it.
Trump wasn't Carroll's political opponent. He was the boorish asshole who sexually assaulted her, defamed her, got what he deserved, defamed her again, and got what he deserved again.
Other than that, though, great comment, clinger!
I’m shocked, SHOCKED!, that the dude that spent his childhood being pummeled by bigger, stronger boys supports fascism.
That bigger stronger 'boy' was his sister-dad, you show some respect.
Besides, you can tell by every word that oozes from his cloaca that he (and I use the term 'loosely') was begging for it.
If there is anything the right-wing malcontents drawn to this misfit, faux libertarian site can't abide it is justice and accountability.
Cori bush called him the “former white supremecist in chief” just last week.
She should be next. About 85 million sounds fair.
Doesn’t Trump realise that these lawsuits could interfere with the running of his presidential campaign? Oh wait…
Yeah, it's cool. Just let them tell everyone he was found guilty of rape in an election year.
Stupid fuck.
Right you are, they need to say that he did not rape the woman he merely sexually assaulted her.
I actually believe The Donald when he says he did not smash the old, knarly string bean. The Donald smashed some fine looking women in his time. The old string bean ain't that.
Unfortunately, the jury did not believe as you do and did find for Ms. Carroll. The case was straight forward she said/he said and the fact that Trump lost shows you how poorly he and his attorneys handled the case. Sitting in the jury pool you might well have found for Ms. Carroll also.
They basically just took her thin claims as truth and justified that he was guilty because he said women let him grab them by the pussy.
It is unlikely that he did anything to/with her and realistically she should be the one paying defamation damages, not him for denying touching her
The jury was a bunch of retarded far left democrats in a trial run by a a retarded far left Judge and prosecuted by a retarded far left prosecutor.
The whole thing is bullshit. So maybe it’s time red states did this to their political enemies too.
It was a civil jidgement and required only 50% belief. You act as if it was criminal. In a heavily democrat jury pool.
Can you cite the specific evidence?
It was a civil case in which the Trump side was denied the ability to present an actual case--because, to do so would be 'defaming' the 'defendant'.
Except when she was much younger she was also a fine-looking woman – who Trump confused with a photo of Marla Maples when he was shown them during a deposition
https://cdn.outsideonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/e-jean-carroll-advice_h.jpg
Which proves what shrike? She didn't even know the year and her claims were nonsensical.
And it was an svu episode
Why have so many of you fascists found your way here?
.
Your bullshit "god" has made you an intensely lousy person, clinger.
What an odd unrelated, bigoted comment. At least encog’s bigoted comments are in context.
You are in thrall to an imbecile who has become even more imbecilic with advancing dementia. A corrupt babbling fool who molested his own preteen daughter and violently raped one of his own staffers.
That’s you. You are subhuman, idiot trash.
Dude, he's probably related.
he merely sexually assaulted her.
What do mean by that, Mod? What did he do that constituted sexual assault? Is a hand on the shoulder sexual assault? A kiss? Is it grabbing by the pussy? What did Trump do?
Why were no criminal charges laid? What evidence was presented?
This is political lawfare in it's purest form, but knobs like you, SRG2 and Ciaramella are pretending that defending yourself from it is.
So fuck you. Fuck Ciaramella. Fuck SRG2. Fucking weaselly fascists.
But if he fights back, he's distracting from his campaign.
If the left gets away with doing this to Trump then they will do it to the rest of us. They need to be stopped, or eliminated.
The democrat party lost the right to exist a long time ago.
There is no stopping them afterwards and probably not if he is successful in fending them off. They need to be gone, and maybe some kind of moderate group can replace them.
A ‘moderate group’ not do what is necessary. We need an Incredible Hulk level of McCarthyism to purge the left from America.
Moderates = democrat lite
We wouldn't still tolerate the Nazi Party even if it swore it reformed.
the Democrat party is the oldest and most enduring racist political party in history, and its racism continues to this day. Here are the facts:
The Democrat Party was founded in 1828. Its first national party platform, ratified during the 1840 Presidential election, stated: “ that all efforts by abolitionists or others, made to induce congress to interfere with questions of slavery… are calculated to lead to the most alarming and dangerous consequences, and that all such efforts have an inevitable tendency to diminish the happiness of the people… and ought not to be countenanced by any friend to our political institutions.”
The message was clear: the Democrat Party did not consider Black Americans to be “people” deserving of “happiness.”
That same language was in every national Democrat party platform for the next 16 years.
Democrat party leaders acted on their racist principles, committing high treason against their country and their fellow Americans between 1861-1865 in order to preserve the system of Black human bondage.
In 1868, the Democrat Party platform urged amnesty for the traitors who, during the Civil War, killed hundreds of thousands of Americans for the purpose of preserving slavery. The platform also called for “the abolition of the Freedmen’s Bureau; and all political instrumentalities designed to secure negro supremacy”:
In 1904, seventy-six years after its founding, the Democrat party’s platform complained about the Republican platform:
“The race question has brought countless woes to this country. The calm wisdom of the American people should see to it that it brings no more.
To revive the dead and hateful race and sectional animosities in any part of our common country means confusion, distraction of business, and the reopening of wounds now happily healed. We therefore deprecate and condemn the Bourbon-like selfish, and narrow spirit of the recent Republican Convention at Chicago which sought to kindle anew the embers of racial and sectional strife, and we appeal from it to the sober common sense and patriotic spirit of the American people.” . . .
Throughout most of the 20th century, Democrats condoned or excused policies of apartheid and disenfranchisement of Black Americans. Senate Democrats successfully filibustered a Republican led anti-lynching bill in 1934, and a Republican-led effort to ban the poll tax in 1940. At the time, the poll tax was so effective in the American South that only 3% of Black Americans were registered to vote there.
Elected Democrats fought tooth and nail against anti-racist legislation, filibustering the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and engaging in so-called “massive resistance” against school integration into the early 1970s. A century and half of racist policies vigorously supported by Democrat party leaders — no other political party in history comes close.
And of course they're targets weren't just Blacks. Native Americans were ethnic cleansing targets of the Democratic Party genociders.
The Indian Removal Act of 1830 was signed into law on May 28, 1830, by Democratic Party father Andrew Jackson. Jackson was a notorious Indian killer who years before had massacred the Red Sticks, selling the women and children and burning the men alive in their villages.
This act, which was ethnic cleansing, displaced tens of thousands of Native Americans from their ancestral homelands east of the Mississippi and resulted in thousands of deaths.
The Cherokee challenged their relocation, but were unsuccessful in the courts; they were forcibly removed by the Democrats in a march to the west that later became known as the Trail of Tears.
But the Party didn't stop there, removing and massacring tribes from Florida to California and across the Great Plains in the Indian wars.
And then there's the Japanese internment.
And the Republicans with their low IQ.... Really shouldn't have them making any decisions for the rest of us.
No one ever claims the maggots are smart.
What is Trump promising you this time? Maybe you should hear his methods to achieve such promises.
Mexico paying for the wall yet?
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman, miss Lewinsky….”
Can she sue? At least there’s physical evidence on that one.
The woman that accused Biden of sexual assault had to escape to Russia. Boaf Sidez!
Trump said to something like he could literally shoot someone on 5th Ave and still be elected. 90% of the comments in this nominally Libertarian forum demonstrate the truth of that statement.
How so? Can you back that up? Or is it just more democrat bullshit?
The Meeting of the Right Rightist Minds will now come to Odor!
Years ago by now, Our Dear Leader announced to us, that He may commit murder in broad daylight, and we shall still support Him! So He Has Commanded, and So Must Shit be Done!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/24/donald-trump-says-he-could-shoot-somebody-and-still-not-lose-voters
And now, oh ye Faithful of the Republican Church, Shit Has Become Known Unto us, that Shit is also in His Power and Privilege Ass Well, to murder the USA Constitution in broad daylight. Thus He Has Spoken, and Thus Must Shit Be Done! Thou shalt Render Unto Trump, and simply REND the USA Constitution, and wipe thine wise asses with shit! Do NOT render unto some moldering old scrap of bathroom tissue! Lest we be called fools, or worse!
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html
Proud Boys, STAND with TRUMP, and stand by! And if ye don’t agree 110%, then we don’t need you polluting our world, because all who disagree with us in ANY way are LEFTISTS!!!
There, I think that’s a wrap! I’ve covered shit ALL! You can take the rest of the day off now.
(You’re welcome!)
That’s why your fellow travelers are doing this.
^ This slimy TDS-addled piece of shit find the murder of an unarmed protester 'amusing':
SRG2 12/23/23
“Then strode in St Ashli, clad in a gown of white samite and basking in celestial radiance, walking calmly and quietly through the halls of Congress as police ushered her through doors they held open for her, before being cruelly martyred for her beliefs by a Soros-backed special forces officer with a Barrett 0.50 rifle equipped with dum-dum bullets.”
I would find it amusing if he were hung from his balls for several hours.
these lawsuits could interfere with the running of his presidential campaign?
The lawsuits ARE his campaign.
The defamation lawsuit is the latest in Trump's campaign of lawfare against media outlets, but all of those suits have failed so far.
The balls it takes to say this is amazing. Ciaramella must have problems sitting down.
Reminder what Ciaramella stands for:
Who do you plan to vote for this year? Joe Biden. The nationalists said the libertarian-conservative consensus is dead, and I take them at their word.
The libertarian-conservative was apparently so dead that CJ had to vote for a fascist.
Dozens and dozens of frivolous lawsuits using novel interpretations of laws vs Trump wanting to not be called a rapist.
And he's the one participating in lawfare. Amazing.
Trump is the victim of democrat lawfare. So yes, he is a ‘participant’ in that respect.
Trump’s campaign of lawfare
April Fool's Day is two weeks away.
GFY CJC
"Lawfare" by Trump?
And how much do you complain about lawfare against Trump, or even more, lawfare against the public who are supposedly the people in charge?
Fuck government.
Fuck slavers.
Fuck you.
It’s not rape - rape.
“Sure he didn’t fuck her, and there’s evidence that he never met her, and her times don’t even match up, and she's pulled this shit before, but we want him to be guilty anyway”.
Pure fucking fascism.
So, if there all this evidence that Trump never met her why is he in a picture with her?
What we had was a politically motivated jury, a Team D prosecutor, and a law changed to allow this suit to go forward.
The likelihood that The Donald smashed that old, knarly string bean is about the same probability as you, a white WI uber-lib milquetoast being a gazan jihadi in disguise.
It's far more likely that the jury was right about Trump than it is than the bullshit fairy tales you claim to believe are true -- as a victim of adult-onset superstition -- are even one percent real.
Are you ever going to try to grow up and live in the reality-based world as a genuine adult?
No, it’s bullshit. Just like you are bullshit.
Fuck off and die, bigoted shit-lib.
You guys should be nicer. There is no rule requiring a culture war's winners to be magnanimous toward bigoted, superstitious, half-educated, faux libertarian, right-wing slack-jaws.
Remember this when begging your betters for leniency, clingers.
You keep saying that, but apparently Trump saw a picture of her back then and thought it was Marla Maples.... Exactly Trump's type.
"apparently"
Is this from CNN, TDS addled steaming pile of shit?
You mean the one picture where she got a photo at a party? Trump met many socialites. Part of his job.
Now. What year did she claim again? I mean the dress she claims she was raped in didn't exist in the 5 years she was unsure when it happened.
I'm sure Mod knows that by now, but the truth doesn't matter when orangehitler is to blame.
"if there all this evidence that Trump never met her why is he in a picture with her?"
Look at who he's talking to. It's not her. Just because you're in the same room as someone or talking to their neighbor, doesn't mean you met them.
Here is the thing, the plaintiff's lawyers presented that picture to Trump in his deposition and his lawyers knew it existed. Yet neither he nor his lawyers ever prepared any meaningful rebuttal. Trump deposition was devastating and his lawyers did nothing to rehabilitate their client. When the plaintiff's lawyers present a solid case and the defense does little, the plaintiff is going to win.
What did the photo prove parody? Meeting someone once means rape in your world?
What does the picture prove? Let me try that one. First it proves that he lying when he says he doesn't know her. The picture shows that he does in fact know her. Now he may have forgotten her, but she did travel in his circle and they have met. That needs to be addressed. Second Trump said that Jean Carroll is not the type of woman he rapes and yet he cannot distinguish Carroll from his second wife, Marla. Which clearly shows that yes he is attracted to women like Carroll. Does the picture prove rape, no. Does the picture prove he is being dishonest about facts, yes. Now, as I have said, the case is she said/he said and if you are proven dishonest that does not help your case. There are no hard facts here either way, so your story has to hold and Trump with his lawyers did a poor job.
Listen Jean Carroll is a small-time author. Trump should have ignored her and left it at that. Instead, he took a one-day story and turned it into an $85 million dollar judgement. A lawsuit against ABC and GS is stupid. Trump is not going to win on appeal. Jean Carroll is quicksand and Trump is not smart enough to get himself out. Simple as that.
So, when a famous person signs hundreds of autographs it means they met and remember meeting each person forever and ever and that means they raped them?
Do you ever think through your ignorance?
He has taken pictures with thousands of people. Doubt he remembers 10% of them.
Now he may have forgotten her, but she did travel in his circle and they have met. That needs to be addressed.
A) does not prove they moved in the same circles. It proves they had one picture.
B) stupid assertion from your initial ignorant assertion.
Second Trump said that Jean Carroll is not the type of woman he rapes and yet he cannot distinguish Carroll from his second wife, Marla.
Lol. Yes. Trump has a type he rapes. You aren't biased at all.
Which clearly shows that yes he is attracted to women like Carroll.
Another bald assertion.
Does the picture prove he is being dishonest about facts, yes.
When just before you even say...
Now he may have forgotten her, but she did travel in his circle and they have met.
And much less almost 30 years later. Lol.
So much ignorant stupidity in one post. Good work Parody.
Show me where in the photo it shows him talking to her, or even meeting her.
He's talking to someone else and she's just standing to the side listening in. He's not addressing her. They're just in proximity and she listening in to a famous man's conversation.
Next time you're walking down the street past some notorious child abuser I'm going to snap a picture as you stand together at the stoplight and show it as proof you met and hung out.
Disingenuous bullshit artist.
She also claimed to be raped by what, 9 other people? What are the odds of that for crying out loud? Also, who likes a show (the Apprentice) that someone who "raped" you is on?
And let us not forget the "rape is sexy" comment she made to Anderson Cooper.
By the way Parody, are you up to speed on all the evidence, quotes, and videos of her that the judge disallowed. What points the judge prejudiced prior to trial?
Celebrities have pictures taken with lots of people they don’t know. Are you too stupid to understand that?
Of course you are.
If it's so easy to debunk it, how incompetent were Trump's lawyers, and how incompetent was he to employ them when it ended up costing him 90 million bucks?
One way or the other, the orange wannabe fuhrer looks like a complete shithead here. Which, obviously, is because he is a complete shithead of very limited brain and equally limited honesty.
Thanks, Pervfect All-Knowing Marxist Necrophilia-Mammary-Farter-Fuhrer, for giving us lowly peons Your Expert Opinion!!!
(You DID Sit Pervfectly and Listen Pervfectly to ALL of the testimony at these trials, right?!?!? RIGHT?!?!)
(Oh, wait... Pervfect People don't actually ever stoop so low ass to truly LISTEN, do they? Since Their Minds are Already Perv-infected, and hence, Perv-infectedly Informed?)
Democrats shouldn’t be allowed to participate in the legal system. Except as defendants.
You have to see this as a business decision, can Trump have his marks give him more money than he will end up paying in court and attorney fees. I am guessing the announced lawsuit was followed up by a fund-raising email. It is a simple transactional problem.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mypillow-guy-mike-lindell-punts-timeline-for-trump-retaking-power-as-august-conspiracy-theories-get-wackier
MyPillow Guy Punts Timeline for Trump Retaking Power as Conspiracy Theories Get Wackier
https://www.salon.com/2021/08/22/mike-lindell-still-in-trumps-good-graces-has-new-prediction-reinstatement-by-new-years/
The Lord Trump didn’t return to us as scheduled, but the Second Coming is now re-scheduled. You can TRUST us THIS time, for sure!
The Lord Trump DID return to us faithful ones, but He did it in an invisible way! Hold strong in your Faith in Him!
The Lord Trump didn’t return to us yet, this is true! It only did NOT happen because YOU were not faithful enough, and didn’t send Him enough donations!
The Lord Trump didn’t return to us yet, but He DID miraculously protect us all from the VERY worst forces of Evil, which is Der BidenFuhrer! Hold fast in your Faith… Lord Trump will come back VERY soon now! Especially if you send Him more money!
The Lord Trump moves in Mysterious Ways! All will be revealed SOON! Especially if you have Enough Faith to DONATE till it HURTS!
2021 + 2021
Anything current or relevant, weasel?
Fucking BITCH quotes shits from the BIBLE from 2000+ years ago, and then asks for shit that is " current or relevant"!!!! RICH, Prefect Bitch, RICH!!!!
See
https://reason.com/2021/03/24/for-the-first-time-a-majority-of-republicans-support-same-sex-marriage/#comment-8822506
…for Mamma the Moosefucking Theologian holding forth on Christianity, and HOW it justifies ID theft!
Hey Mamma the Highly Esteemed, Expert Christian Theologian!
https://reason.com/2021/03/24/for-the-first-time-a-majority-of-republicans-support-same-sex-marriage/
Have You figured out yet, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? I am waiting with bated breath!
Also, how is Your Followership building up? I mean, for Your “Expert Theologians for Worshipful Methods of Identity Theft”? Where do we subscribe to Your Newsletter?
Hear, hear, HEAR ye the self-righteous preachings of MammaryBahnFuhrer! (Imported below). She knows JUST the right “Popular-with-the-Cool-Kids-in-Her-Own-Mind” theology to espouse, along with wearing JUST the right purse, hairstyle, whorestyle, and other accessories! Meanwhile, in the EXACT same source, She engaged in identity theft! Her heart, in truth, is a ravening black hole of hypocrisy, greedy self-righteousness, and other evils!
Now, the preachings of The Great Mammary. Note that She picks the verses that say that the right BELIEFS and whorestyles get you “in” with the “in” crowd, and then you’re free to engage in ID theft and other evils, at will!
Mammary-style whorestyles - preachings below:
It amazes me how Americans living in a purportedly Christian culture don't even understand the basic tenets of its theology.
Pretty much the whole point of Christianity is that everyone has sinned and is worthy of damnation so God became a human and took our punishment for us. And the libertarian angle is, that you still have a choice to accept or reject the gift already given.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV: For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Romans 6:23 ESV: For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
John 3:16-17 ESV: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
(End of Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer-style preachings.)
We can pick and chose our Bible verses to justify ANY evils we WANT TO justify! And YOU equate "fashionable theology to justify ANY evil shit that I want to do" with Your fashionable hairstyle and whorestyle! Got the right fashionable BELIEFS, and so then The Queen can do WHATEVER She wants! Your BELIEFS will protect You from the consequences of Your evil actions? Do You not GET this, Oh Fashionable Queen of the Internet Cesspools?
"By their fruits, you will know them", is something that Jesus said. DEEDS, not "Magic Beliefs"!
So Great Theologian... How about Your DEEDS? Like identity theft? Was it YOU who stole "Buttplug the First"'s ID, to post child porn under his ID? How can we know either way, for SURE (how can we believe any denials that You might make), when you steal IDs, and implicitly in doing so, deliberately LIE, for malicious purposes? Stealing another person's ID is something that I would NEVER do!
So tell me again about Your Superior Theology?
PS, You (Oh Queen) are apparently saying that it's OK to act HOWEVER YOU WANT, and get a "free pass" with Your Magic Beliefs, fashionable hairstyle and whorestyle, etc. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!!! Your Magic Beliefs DO NOT protect You from the consequences of Your evil choices!!! If You drink a gallon of whiskey every day, is God going to forgive You because You have Magic Beliefs? AND give You Your healthy liver back? Have You SHOWN this to be true? Or do You know ANYONE who has demonstrated this?
If You spit in the faces of ALL of Your friends, will You have any friends left? You're not married, are You? Is this perhaps the pay-back that You have earned by being a Perfectly Superior One, in the face of EVERYONE that You meet? Can you NOT see my basic point, that Your Magic Beliefs are ZERO protection from "karma", or, "what comes around, goes around"? "Karma" can even be applied to the body... Treat your body like shit, and it will NOT be very kind to you, in return!
So no.
More current and relevant than your Oh-So-Fashionable Purse, Hairstyle, and WhoreStyle, Oh Queen of Internet Slime!
Trump doesn’t have ‘marks’. You’re confusing American voters with you brainless democrats. And you and your fellow travelers should back off. I figured out years ago that getting rid of you people is worth the trouble. Keep pushing and everyone else will too.
It’s coming bitch. And it won’t end well for you.
Trump doesn’t have ‘marks’; He is a MARXIST!!!! With Perfect Immunity, He IS the State AND The People, personified!!!
I knew Trump broke Reason, didn’t realize how bad.
>>defamation lawsuit yesterday against ABC News and TV host George Stephanopoulos
yes. regardless of your vote preference Snuffleupagus crossed the line by eleven miles on live TV ... and I saw it in Texas so the suit could be here too
Texas would be a great place for a suit like that.
hopefully Florida can handle it.
That works too. It’s time to start destroying democrat lives.
How dare he sue George and ABC. They didn't mean to call him a rapist. Imagine the outrage if someone on Fox flat out lied and said that a court had held Biden liable for rape when they hadn't. When a lie is that blatant, no discretion should be given to the perpetrator of it. It sure as hell wasn't an accident, and a whole lot of his audience will take it as fact.
I hope he bankrupts both ABC and that little half retard ass goblin Stephanopoulos.
"Lawfare" is used incorrectly. Lawfare is when you employ dubious or bogus court cases against a political opponent that you should be facing straight up and honestly in the political arena.
Suing a media outlet for defamation can't be lawfare because Trump and ABC never face off at the polls.
Ciaramella is easily confused; as a slimy pile of shit, he's busy nursing a raging case of TDS.
Why lie? Anyone can google the word and see that you lied, if they didn't already know it.
Trump and ABC deserve each other. Personally, I think George Stephanopoulos’ interview of Rep. Nancy Mace was a disaster. That guy is so condescending and oily. And whatever happened to “believe all women”, by the way? She told him to his face at least twice that she felt he was mocking and shaming her. It was extremely ungentlemanly.
Bah. Can’t decide who’s worse, Trump or Stephanopoulos. It’s Worse and Worser.
it's not really.
DaveM is yet one more slimy pile of TDS-addled shit.
Fuck off and die, Dave; make the world a better place and your dog happier.
there is no cure for trump derangement syndrome
Sure there is. A small dose of lead. Delivered at high velocity at point blank range.
I admittedly had a case of it in 2016, but ended up voting for him in 2020. Turns out he was actually fairly good Prez in certain arenas, and he ended up exposing the true enemies of the country for what they really were.
In Trump’s defense, of the two true accusations LEGALLY he is a sexual assailant, not a rapist.
After all, a potato is not the same thing as a potato if one is pronounced differently from the other...
"LEGALLY he is a sexual assailant"
No he isn't, he was found liable for financial reperations. He was never found guilty of sexual assault, let alone rape.
That's why this is all so crooked.
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
And a TDS-addled steaming pile of shit besides.
Please make the world a better place, and your family proud: FUCK OFF and DIE, shitbag.
Trump is not interested in litigating the truth so much as attempting to punish media outlets and chill criticism through expensive lawsuits.
Exactly. It is his standard modus operandi. So I'm almost tempted to say "turnabout is fair play" and look the other way when he is subjected to unfair lawsuits. Almost. Because it's not in fact fair play when New York State, through its Attorney-General, files (and wins) a lawsuit against him for conduct that I don't think anyone else would have been sued for. Are there ANY other examples of the state AG filing a similar suit for "fraud" when no one has lodged any complaint at all that they were harmed by the misrepresentation in question?
Trump's complaint is correct that, as a technical matter, he was found civilly liable for sexual assault under New York state law, not rape, because the jury did not find that he penetrated Carrol with his penis.
So, Jorge defamed him. Thanks CJ.
But as Reason reported last year, those lawsuits have all been failures.
But this one's going to have some legs, isn't it. You just said so.
What a ridiculous article. Ms. Carroll failed to prove anything happened let alone an assault of any kind. The jury’s decision was based on zero evidence. It’s a great example of the insanity of our legal system. And yes, Stephanopolos defamed Trump regardless what the court decides. Maybe he can get $83 million for defamation since a jury took that amount for defamation after he asserted his innocence.
Good to see that the author doesn't give a shit about truth or facts when he has a political enemy to attack. Fuck you CJ you ignorant pedo defending marxist scum.
Yes Trump is the one doing "lawfare" . . . Lmao
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,” Kaplan wrote. “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
Translation of the judge’s remarks: “I’m ticked off that the jury did not find him liable for rape, so I’m just going to say it was close enough so we can call it that anyway”
BTW – what “evidence at trial”? The trial was 100% he said/she said, and she couldn’t even recall the year this supposedly happened.
But as Reason reported last year, those lawsuits have all been failures. In every case, Trump’s lawyers failed to meet the high bar established in the landmark 1964 Supreme Court case New York Times v. Sullivan. Sullivan established that, to prevail on a defamation claim, public figures must show that the publishers knew the statements were false or acted with reckless disregard for the truth.
Nope, all you need is a sympathetic jury in the right venue. After all a jury for handed E Jean Carroll a ridiculous $88 million lottery award because Trump called her crazy.
You can't just baselessly call someone crazy and get away with it. There is no reason to think E Jean Carroll is crazy...other than saying rape is sexy after claiming to have been raped a dozen times in the past and naming her cat "Vagina T. Fireball."