Tucker Dreams of Moscow
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Do authoritarians, in fact, do it better? Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who was in Moscow this week to interview Russian President Vladimir Putin, had very nice things to say about the capital city during a speech in Dubai: "[Moscow] is so much cleaner and safer and prettier, aesthetically. Its architecture, its food, its service, than any … city in the United States. And this is not ideological. How did that happen? How did that happen? And at a certain point, I don't think the average person cares as much about abstractions as about the concrete reality of his life. And if you can't use your subway, for example, as many people are afraid to in New York City because it's too dangerous, isn't that the ultimate measure of leadership?"
But Carlson, who seems to be going through his foreign-exchange-student-likes-Barcelona-more-than-Paducah phase, misses a few finer details.
If you are a journalist, life in Moscow means constant fear of reprisal; pissing off the state means certain imprisonment. If you enjoy gay bars or other forms of LGBT-oriented nightlife, get ready for police raids. If you're an evangelical protestant, you will not be permitted to live out your faith. (Over the last decade, more than 500 Jehovah's Witnesses have been convicted of or charged with extremism, with many serving sentences.) And, if you're Ukrainian, well, sorry about your family getting brutally slaughtered and your homeland getting desecrated; hope you enjoy the clean subway system nonetheless.
Carlson goes on to say that Singapore, Tokyo, Dubai, and Abu Dhabi "are wonderful places to live." (And, oddly, that he grew up in a country that had cities like those, which is odd because American cities in the '70s and '80s did not look like Abu Dhabi, and were not extraordinarily safe.)
One reason why we don't have clean streets in New York the way they do in Singapore is because we don't cane people for minor crimes. We don't give people the death penalty for manufacturing drugs (200 grams of cannabis resin warrants execution, if you're not careful), nor do we lock people in jail for a decade for the purported crime of getting high. We don't crack down on jaywalking, spitting, or cigarette-smoking the way they do. We also don't tend to use corporal punishment for our children.
Carlson's point is fine that people care about quality of life issues, that Skid Row in Los Angeles and subway-station junkies in New York City are embarrassments, and that our city officials ought to be able to clean up the streets to improve the lives of taxpaying residents—not just when Xi Jinping comes to town. You might think existing public disorder needs to be curbed, but there are many possible ways of doing so that could still protect civil liberties and wouldn't turn American cities into authoritarian hellholes. (In fact, we should probably turn to Russian out-migration numbers to see whether residents agree with Carlson's assessment.)
I simply do not think we need to hand it to authoritarians under any circumstances or speak in flattering terms about Putin's ability to govern. It's not that compliments like these ought to be haram; it's that Carlson is examining only one side of the ledger, and missing all the ways Russian laws rain down brutality on the innocent and undeserving. Just ask some of the tourists who've had their stays in Russia involuntarily prolonged, like Brittney Griner.
Senate passes Ukraine aid bill: Early this morning, an aid package for Israel and Ukraine cleared the Senate, as a group of Republicans split from their party and voted with the Democrats. The $95 billion emergency aid bill—$60 billion of which is meant for Ukraine, bringing the total U.S.-footed tab to $170 billion—must now clear the House, which makes its fate uncertain.
On Monday night, a group of 17 Republicans, mostly moderates and national security hawks, joined with Democrats to get the bill across a final procedural hurdle. Then, this morning, five more Republicans joined the dissenters' ranks. This saga highlights what most Republicans already know to be true: that the party is sorely divided on whether the United States ought to be the world's police, and—if consensus is shifting away from that role—how the U.S. ought to deal with its allies in the interim.
Scenes from New York: "The Eco–Yogi Slumlords of Brooklyn" over at The Cut has something for everyone (to hate).
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- Current Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel is set to step down at the end of the month. Donald Trump has endorsed his daughter-in-law, Lara, as a possible pick to replace McDaniel.
- Hot take but I'm not sure 5-year-olds should be glued to computer screens:
one of my least favorite pandemic things is that tmw instead of a snow day my 5 year will have "remote kindergarten." REMOTE KINDERGARTEN?!?!? That's not a thing!!!! all she should be worrying about tomorrow is cartoons & hot chocolate with marshmallows, I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL
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Early this morning, an aid package for Israel and Ukraine cleared the Senate, as a group of Republicans split from their party and voted with the Democrats.
I DID NOT FORESEE THIS HAPPENING.
It's getting difficult for the Republican Party to provide a reason for anybody in the world to vote for them.
Has been for a while. In 2012 they put up Romney for god's sake.
Hell, they put up Daddy Bush and The Little Bush Boy, not to mention Nixon,so it's been a long while.
I know this is heresy in some circles, but I'm not that big a fan of Reagan either.
He talked a good talk in the classic Reason interview, but delivering the goods left much to be desired.
Another bad article from reason.
You would have to be incredibly ignorant to think Carlson is advocating Moscow. He is pointing out that the U.S. has become a socialist shit stain just like russia.
Is Putin worse than biden?
Let's see...
2nd Amendment rights - I live in NY. I'm pretty sure the average russian has more rights to self defense and firearms than I do. NYS prisons are full of people found guilty of keeping and bearing arms.
Prosecuting your political opposition - Let's see, how many times has biden raided the lead Republican's home with the military? At least once that we know of. How many times has biden had his leading political opponent arrested? 4 or 5 times.
Your right to travel freely - Lockdowns for all so you don't get the sniffles.
Fraudulent elections - anyone remember the last Presidential election?
Property rights - Show me anyone with any real private property rights in the U.S. anymore.
On and on and on.....
As of 2023, handguns using live ammunition are not allowed to be concealed carry in public. The only legal handguns allowed in public are handguns using rubber bullets, and may be used for the purposes of self-defense. The only exception to this federal law are commemoration pistols, which have special engravings, and these can only be gifted by government officials for acts of heroism. Move to Russia and open carry. Let's think about the context in which guns are introduced. The Russians are the second-biggest consumers of hard liquor in the world (first in Europe). According to the World Health Organization, risky drinking—defined as "frequency and circumstances of alcohol consumption and the proportion of people drinking alcohol to intoxication"—is highest in the Russian Federation. Drinking in that country already often leads to suicide and accidents and fights. Oh and it's only long guns.
Republicans are attractive by comparison considering how awful and treasonous most democrats are. This mostly explains RINOs.
A reason? Kamala Harris.
Were they voting by mail? Asking for the guy that delivers boxes of mail-in ballots at 2am.
The collaborator wing of the Republican Party.
Putin looked like an evil genius with his knowledge of Russian history.
He did not confuse any world leader or mix up countries.
I can imagine what Biden would look like if asked to detail the history of America’s southern border crises.
"[Moscow] is so much cleaner and safer and prettier, aesthetically. Its architecture, its food, its service, than any … city in the United States. And this is not ideological. How did that happen..."
Operation Paperclip 2.0. We stole soviet brutalist architects.
In a free society, Government buildings should be Brutal and Frugal, but private property owners have a right to go Baroque until they go buh-roke.
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Brutal is rarely frugal. Impractical and often unusable designs that soaked whoever bought them.
I guess the terms I'm looking for with Government buildings are Simple and Functional. A court house, a police department, a jail and prison, a border entrance, a port, and a military base that just fulfills it's proper role in a free society and no more. If it does any more, it becomes ugly in more ways than just aesthetics.
Metal framing and plaster. Brutalism is stupid expensive and really doesn't age well.
Fuck that. Tents, if they're lucky. No heaters, fat-arses can do jumping jacks to stay warm.
I actually did once put up what amounted to a fancy tent for a temporary fire station. Sprung-structure, it was called. We housed the firemen themselves in trailers. Worked fine.
I get you. Bland and practical rather than the Brutalist architectural style.
In America, people hate government buildings. In Soviet Russia, government buildings hate people.
Once upon a time that was true.
When I visited Moscow in 2000, I was surprised at how lovely much of the architecture was - but that applied to pre-modern construction. I expected fare more Stalinist and far fewer Imperial buildings.
None too many American cities can compete on that basis, but that's to be expected,
Cities with architecture preserved in amber may be worth a visit, much like a theme park or Renaissance Faire, but not to live in long term. It's good when things can change with human needs and wants.
Rep. Barbara Lee (D–Calif.) said last night in a debate between candidates vying for California's empty U.S. Senate seat that she would support a $25 minimum wage and, possibly, even a $50 per hour minimum wage in the Bay Area.
No $100 an hour minimum wage? Does she want people eating cat food?
An $8 can of cat food. The really good shit.
Do you have your head in the Alpo bowl with Ed and Johnny?
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https://youtu.be/XI4140D8gk0?si=0DqwcosBexD5lWK1
$100? Practically wage slavery. $1000.
Real Californians demand a 1,000% sales tax, payable in gold.
What's the point of money if I can just waltz into a store and take what I need? California is streets ahead of everyone else.
Upvote for the Pierce Hawthorne reference.
And if you can't use your subway, for example, as many people are afraid to in New York City because it's too dangerous, isn't that the ultimate measure of leadership?"
See, here is where you can go after Tucker for his editorializing. Simply asking questions of Putin isn’t where you attack him, it’s his being charmed by the orderliness of authoritarianism. That’s problematic, not the desire to see if Putin will explain his invasion to a western audience.
Oddly I would have thought this mag would cover Putins offer of an end to the war during his interview. But guess not.
Local story.
The one similar to the offer that both Russia and Ukraine agreed to in mach of 2022 where blinken and Biden told Ukraine not to take it?
Didn't have many details from what I heard. But Boris Johnson was freaking out over details of them killing an agreement in 2022.
That is disconcerting = Reason just not discussing the content of Carlson's interview vis a vis ending the UKR/RUS war on acceptable terms.
Already rejected by Biden.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/biden-rejects-putins-offer-negotiations-ukraine-issued-tucker-carlson-interview
The elderly man with a poor memory....Did the White House staff need to remind POTUS Biden who Putin was?
Did they need to remind him that he’s not the fucking President of Ukraine?
Reason isn’t overly concerned with war these days. Seemed to go off their radar right around 2016 for some reason.
Putin can stop the war any time he wants.
If he hasn't stopped it yet, it means he wants it to continue.
Why do you think he wants it to continue?
Obviously to help Trump get elected President for Life.
At this point that wouldn’t be such a yuge deal.
Because that 30 minute spiel on Eastern European history, and his initial speech starting the war basically claimed that Russia rightfully owns Ukraine and its people. You can dispute his conclusion about what that history means, but you should take it at his word that he means it. Therefore Putin will want the war to continue until he gets what he wants from it.
It's a terrible argument for liberty, though. Free societies are perfectly capable of keeping their streets clean and violent criminals in prisons and pretending otherwise builds a false dichotomy.
One can criticise authoritarian regimes for that same false dichotomy.
You can. And Carlson can certainly be faulted with a lack of precision. But, I suspect that was what he was trying to get at. American cities seem to have fallen into a paralysis (And it's not the first time. As Wolfe alludes, the same paralysis dominated in the 1960s & 1970s - think Death Wish) that treats any deviation from license for the worst amongst us as tantamount to authoritarian suppression. Locking up
shopliftersthieves isn't oppression. Not allowing people to parade with their genitals in full display, shooting things out of a ten-foot papier mache penis isn't the same thing as raiding a peaceful gay bar where they're listening to some guy play showtunes on a piano.I get it. Some people really are into the license. I'm old enough to remember the complaints about the "Disneyfication" (ironic, given where the Mouse has gone) of Times Square and the loss of "urban grit". But, pretending that anyone who might not be all that into living in a Mad Max movie set secretly yearn for totalitarianism is just silly.
Not just authoritarian suppression, but MAGA Nazi right-wing suppression. Therefore elect more Democrats. Duh.
Of course blue cities are a disaster. Most crime has little in the way of consequences. Unless you try to defend yourself against a violent criminal. Then you’re prosecuted aggressively by a democrat.
All blue cities have become north korea/sanfrancisco.
Zombies muttering government/democrat slogans slopping around in their own excrement.
Agreed here.
The comparison shouldn't be "LA is a 3rd world shithole, apparently it takes an iron fist to clean up the streets and make the trains run on time"
It should be, "why are small to medium sized towns in America such a better, cleaner place to live and raise a family while simultaneously upholding liberty for their citizens?"
It is a pretty easy fix, and in America, it just means not electing corrupt authoritarian clowns with bad policies. You dont have to turn things into a police state, you just have to actually police the crime and depravity (normally pushed by the left) that are currently infringing upon OTHERS' civil rights. This isnt hard.
The pride that comes with ownership of private property would serve as a strong incentive to fight pollution, litter, and human waste in the streets. (You’ll notice that the most garbage in cities are along Government roadsides and highways. The Tragedy of the Commons writ large.)
Moreover, deregulating business to free production and construction would alleviate the problems and pathologies that accompany homelessness. Work, saving, and investing and the habits they require would get and keep people into housing and off the streets for good.
The sad thing about Tucker Carlson is that he once identified as a small-l Libertarian and could have praised these as solutions to urban problems. Now he’s just a scrunchy-faced lapdog for one of the most repellant “poles” in the “Multipolar” world.
But what if Pride, Ownership, and Private Property are white patriarchal values used to oppress good people?
I guess the Wokesters should try telling that to people in the ghettos and barrios who experience the worst aspects of The Tragedy of the Commons.
You work hard. You treat others with respect. You pay your own way. You are curious and want to learn. You protect and provide for your family = YOU ARE A RACIST.
Yep. It’s not authoritarian to protect property rights and enforce violations of NAP.
I’m not sure how everyone here would label an aggressive cleansing of America’s Marxist infestation, but it’s 100% necessary.
Except they are not.
Obama: ‘It Would Be So Much Easier To Be the President of China’
The president has wistfully been thinking about how easy it would be to be the leader of the People’s Republic of China, the New York Times reports. And one unnamed official told the Times‘s reporters that “No one is scrutinizing [Chinese leader] Hu Jintao’s words in Tahrir Square.”
Obama is an idiot.
You don't become the head honcho of the CCP if you're not able to run on the edge of a razor.
As US President, you fuck up, no one's waiting in the wings to, literally, hang you.
No, Obama is a closet(?) totalitarian that never saw an aspect of society that he did not want to impose direct control on.
He really deserves to live out his life isolated in a SuperMax facility.
I never had a problem with either Tucker Carson or Vladimir Putin showcasing their Authoritarian asses. Now we know who not to believe.
Putin's little history lessons furthermore showed himself to be as big an aggrieved Identitarian perpetual victim as any college campus Wokester.
The early history of Kievan Rus really shouldn't be all that relevant. The Soviet history of how the modern borders of the state of Ukraine is pretty relevant to the current situation, though. Why are Stalin's borders some sacred thing that we are obliged to preserve at all costs?
Tucker has pointed out that Moscow is simply a better run city.
Nothing he said approaches "Authoritarianism is better".
He is asking "Why are we accepting so much less?"
And it is a valid question. Why are we sitting back and ALLOWING our cities to be turned into unsafe shitholes? What freedom or rights do you have if you do not feel safe enough to do much of anything?
The problem is not authoritarianism. It is that we permit horrific policies that ruin the living capacity for major cities. It's that we have a self-professed leadership class that does have any talent to lead.
Its his blithely ignoring the authoritarian underpinning of the running of totalitarian cities that lends aid and comfort to the ones who choose the authoritarian route for city administration – as opposed to the messier methods that make allowance for individual liberties.
It is tacit agreement with Obama that it would be nice to be in charge with a CCP govt framework.
Nothing to see here… just ignore the human rights abuses behind the curtain…
Enjoy your clean cities.
Except our cities are getting worse while respecting individual liberties less.
I.e. worker paradises.
"our cities are getting worse while respecting individual liberties less."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Francis_(writer)#anarcho-tyranny
Yep.
"Its his blithely ignoring the authoritarian underpinning of the running of totalitarian cities that lends aid and comfort to the ones who choose the authoritarian route for city administration – as opposed to the messier methods that make allowance for individual liberties.
It is tacit agreement with Obama that it would be nice to be in charge with a CCP govt framework.
Nothing to see here… just ignore the human rights abuses behind the curtain…
Enjoy your clean cities."
Is our way BETTER?
"You have these human rights and all....but THESE illegals and homeless --- well, they have slightly more rights than you."
Chaos prevents the exercise of your rights. Random violence prevents the exercise of your rights.
And that the cities and states will not --- absolutely will not --- prosecute people who violate your rights but WILL prosecute if you defend yourself, then we have a situation that does not stand out as "THIS is the way to run things".
He did not comment on the authoritarianism because that is not our problem. Canada has been hurtling towards fascism, as has Europe, for years and I feel no need to overthrow them either.
Its his blithely ignoring the authoritarian underpinning of the running of totalitarian cities that lends aid and comfort to the ones who choose the authoritarian route for city administration – as opposed to the messier methods that make allowance for individual liberties.
You don't have to look to China or Russia for that, though. Singapore's been the epitome of the hyper-sterilized urban experience for, what, 30 or more years now?
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The people who are running our major cities are giving their voters what they (the voters) want. I know, it's totally crazy, but they want to live in unsafe shitholes (as long as they can keep telling themselves how wonderful and "liberal" (or "progressive") they are).
The people who are running our major cities are giving their voters what they (the voters) want.
Are they? I only ask because I know the long and sordid history of election fraud in Chicago where people may vote one way, but the winner is the complete opposite. These folks don't want nobody nobody sent.
It isn't just Chicago. It's all over the place. To use a local example: Jacob Frey became mayor of Minneapolis in 2018. In the aftermath of George Floyd's "murder" he gave the order to "evacuate" a police station rather than protect it from the rioters. And guess what? He was reelected in 2021 "with 56.2% of the vote." I highly doubt any fraud was involved. These people want this sort of sorry leadership! "Nice" "liberals," "idealistic" "progressives," etc. Words fail me.
I simply do not think we need to hand it to authoritarians under any circumstances or speak in flattering terms about Putin's ability to govern.
Trump does. So if you disagree you've got TDS.
Your hero, FDR, admired Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.
I despise FDR and you know this. Meanwhile the politician you defend is on record actually praising actual dictators, from Orban to Jinping to Jong Un. And Putin as well.
The only source for you hating FDR is you, unreliable at best.
And in addition to not knowing how to write sarcastically, you seem to be incapable of recognizing sarcasm when you hear it or read it. Try paying attention to how Trump talks.
The only source for you hating FDR is you, unreliable at best.
Translation: How dare you disagree with me when I tell you what you think!
You aren’t exactly a reliable narrator of yourself, Sarc.
How dare I disagree with the narrative about me!
How dare you disagree with your own narrative about yourself!
You mean the word for word citations of you that you lie about lol.
You’re an inveterate liar. You’re routinely caught in lies here. This has been the case for years. But you’re afraid of me (and you should be), so you won’t dare address what I have to say.
Because you’re a weak, alcoholic pussy.
Try paying attention to how Trump talks.
So he was being retarded?
How amusing. You choose a handle you are incapable of understanding, then recognize your true trait. You should change your handle to "retardmic".
He's really quite a wonder in some ways, isn't he?
Life is much better when a certain few figures appear here as simple grey boxes.
" Try paying attention to how Trump talks."
I think it's funny the way he says China when he has to mention it multiple times in a row. "Chai-naaaaaaaah."
Why would you despise FDR? All he did was make rules.
Define "praise".
The ones with TDS are the ones who bring him up in every conversation. Ex. you.
This.
And it is just an odd comment. As every Dem prior to Russia "stealing the election" were Putin cheerleaders.
But that happened years ago, so his alcoholic amnesia comes into play.
And it is just an odd comment. As every Dem prior to Russia “stealing the election” were Putin cheerleaders.
Cite?
Some of them were not above getting campaign contributions from them. From 2015:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/news/ny-times-hillary-clinton-approved-russian-uranium-deal-133318767.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAB5tuOo_qJ0h-TNQDB-UWmMJeTthi4wrDC2gtJnbDcG63XN-edaqBqHyhag0n1zz1E67ZHwomBZ62WrReD7JIgyticRXFHCU8WAOkJ9CHpGWcY60zL74C-UmJnNjZ-vvjiBHUv26BVaQf-VHYMkzPdGTJ9vE6q7bcAESYPjj6Bjh
From 2017:
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/362234-clintons-understated-support-from-firm-hired-by-russian-nuclear-company/
From 2017:
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/356630-fbi-watched-then-acted-as-russian-spy-moved-closer-to-hillary/
Lol shrike. Memory hole Obama 80s called statement?
Pretty much every one of his kind memory-holed that statement.
Putin was the Prime Minister when, in 2009 Hillary Clinton--Obama's Secretary of State--presented his foreign minister with a literal Reset Button (even though she screwed that up too see below).
Putin was still the PM in 2912, when Obama made these comments...
Obama: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it's important for him to give me space."
Medvedev: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…"
Obama: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."
Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir."
When Romney was running for president and made a comment about Russia being our biggest threat.
Obama said. “And, the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back, because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”
A few weeks later, re: Iran deal...
In an interview with The New York Times on Tuesday, Obama said, “Russia was a help with this. I’ll be honest with you.”
He added a surprisingly optimistic comment, saying he was “encouraged” when Putin called him a few weeks ago to discuss the crisis in Syria, noting that the current situation with the Syrian regime experiencing losses “offers us an opportunity to have a serious conversation with them,” in Obama’s judgment.
"President Obama called Russian President-elect and Prime Minister Putin to congratulate him on his recent victory in the Russian Presidential election," the White House said in a late Friday afternoon statement (read: news dump) about the Friday morning phone call between the two leaders.
"President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed to continue discussions on areas where the United States and Russia have differed, including Syria and missile defense," [a] statement read. "President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed to continue their efforts to find common ground and remove obstacles to better relations."
Wikipedia:
On 6 March 2009 in Geneva, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov with a red button with the English word "reset" and the Roman alphabet transliteration of the Russian Cyrillic alphabet word перегрузка ("peregruzka"). It was intended that this would be the Russian word for "reset" but actually was the word for "overload".[1][2] (The correct translation would be перезагрузка ["perezagruzka"].) Additionally, the button switch was the type commonly used as an emergency stop on industrial equipment.
FAKE OLD NEWS!!!
Note none of the people arguing the other side responded to this or the several posts by ITL above.
It’s because they’re dishonest scum.
Exactly. I've mentioned this to Sarc many, many times before. He'll either be the first one to bring up Trump in a thread, or the only one to bring up Trump in a thread. He'll bring up Trump in a food thread where no one even remotely discussed Trump, even the author. It's a fucking psychological disorder.
By that definition you've got bad cases of J6DS, ABDS and JBDS.
And just where, with links, do we do that in other threads without you mentioning anything about them first?
Real question:
Why does anyone engage this TDS-addled, pathetic. lying, steaming pile of lefty shit?
Because if you don't rebut the loonies, the fence-sitters see them as plausibly believable. After all, no one has seen fit to rebut them ...
^ This.
OK, but do you think the lefty shits would continue to post here if they were ignored?
Yes. Look at Jeffy and Sarc talking with each other. It's a fucking circle jerk between them some days.
Yeah, they should be treated like theMarxist buffoons they are. And they are certainly not entitled to civility or respect. Given their constant lies and Marxist propaganda.
They’re all completely disingenuous.
Yes.
Absolutely. They're missionaries. They're not here just looking to chat about libertarian stuff.
OK, mind changed. TY.
Plus, I’ve never encountered someone that you can get spinning so much they end up saying the dumbest shit ever so easily. Which I find entertaining.
I only one I actively skip over and don't read is pluggo.
Don’t forget about SQRLSY. Nothing but nonsensical raving. Even worse than Hank.
Did carlson ask putin if he has rewritten the restaurant menus? (the true test of authoritarians)
Fascism is good is what we figured out from sarc yesterday. Just the government being like refs.
Don’t forget that without government, automakers would make cars without headlights, and there would be a market for them and they’d be all over the road smashing into each other in the dark!
And dying from eating uncooked chicken.
Or tell farmers which crops to grow. Don’t forget about that.
Diplomacy is lost on sarcasmic.
Has Biden bitching about Putin done any good? Has insulting him benefitted anything?
Insulting him as the modern-reincarnation of evil did not lead to a non-invasion of Ukraine.
Remember that when Putin invaded Crimea, Obama just let him.
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"There is a reason why there was not an armed invasion of Crimea. Because Crimea was full of Russian speakers, and there was some sympathy to the view that Russia was representing its interest. The Rada [Ukrainian parliament – ed.] at the time still had a number of Russian sympathisers. The politics inside Ukraine were more complicated," he added.
The US president also stood up for former German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who has been criticised for rapprochement with Russia and not being tough enough.
"Both myself and also Merkel, whom I give enormous credit for, had to pull in a lot of other Europeans kicking and screaming to impose the sanctions that we did and to prevent Putin from continuing through the Donbas into the rest of Ukraine," he said.
"Given both where Ukraine was at the time and where the European mindset was at the time, we held the line. And part of what happened was, over time, a sense of Ukrainian identity, separate from Russia, and a determination to push back against Russia, and an ability to prepare both militarily and civically to resist Russian pressure [appeared – ed.]," Obama added.
He concluded that the West challenged Putin "with the tools that we had at the time, given where Ukraine was at the time".
The thesis that there was no military invasion of Crimea was repeatedly refuted by Putin himself, who recognized the so-called "green men" – military men without insignia – to be a part of the Russian army.
Just ask some of the tourists who've had their stays in Russia involuntarily prolonged, like Brittney Griner.
Britney did less time than most of the J6 revelers. Makes me wonder who the real authoritarian is.
They're revelers now? Is J6 a new holiday or something? It may as well be since certain people will be complaining about it until the day they die.
No personal jibes? Do you think you can skirt your "principle" that easily?
https://reason.com/2024/02/07/elizabeth-warrens-shrinkflation-rant-is-an-incredible-exercise-in-blame-shifting/?comments=true#comment-10434486
Are you saying that certain people will not be complaining about J6 until the day they die?
Why would a libertarian complain about political abuses of the law by the state? That js outrageous!!!
MAGA don’t deserve rights dood.
Correct. If you want some of those state-approved rights, then you'd better support the state.
They’re revelers now??
The vast majority were revelers.
Funny how the leftists get bent when someone changes the widely accepted descriptor. Do you prefer mostly peaceful protesters?
I just thought it was funny. First it was a riot, then a protest, and now it’s a party. What’s next?
Less than 15% of those arrested committed any violence or vandalism. Why do you keep defending this?
Because he’s a fascist.
That's not what he said, Jeffy Jr.
He said the majority were revelers, of course some were protesters, most were both.
Now, do me a favor and tell me how many of the people actually caught on camera breaking windows and calling for insurrection were charged.
Why would the FBI charge their employees for doing what they are told?
There is an odd story developing about a guy who shot a gun into the air twice at the protest. The guys name is known. He told police he was the guy who fired the weapon at J6 when arrested at another protest. No arrest for J6. Professional agitator.
People are asking if he is a fed plant like they used to do in the 60s and 70s.
People are asking if he is a fed plant like they used to do in the 60s and 70s.
The Feds never stopped planting. Randy Weaver was a fed victim, The Waco biker massacre, and on and on.
It’s important to remember the fed behind the fake Whitmer kidnapping was transferred back to DC in between the two events.
5 years for feet on a desk and you applaud it.
Pictures of solitary confinement and you deny it.
State use of searching bank records for Trump and MAGA and you support it.
1200 arrested with a goal of 2000 and you applaud it.
Lol.
You're really good at practiced arguments against things I never said.
Another personal jibe so soon?
The fuck you didn't... or was it that darned Tulpa spoofing you yet again?
He is a pathalogical liar. Even given links he will deny it.
Links to you making retarded inferences like you did the other day when you got outraged over the headline with the "I" word in it.
No. Word for word links everyone can read. Weird how they all came to the same conclusion huh dumdum.
Your clique will agree with any conclusion you come up with, no matter how stupid it is.
edit: I must admit that was a rare bit of honesty from you in that you admit my posts don’t say what you claim they say, but rather you and your girlfriends infer the same nonsense. Be careful with that honesty stuff. You wouldn’t want to have a stroke.
Lol.
Wow. You are fucking delusional.
Apparently I’m a clique leader.
Ever think everyone just thinks you’re an asshole who is ignorant on every topic?
I must admit that was a rare bit of honesty from you in that you admit my posts don’t say what you claim they say,
Lol. Wut?
God damn youre fucking delusional. I post your words because you said them. You deny you said it. Because youre pathalogical.
"Apparently I’m a clique leader."
I wonder how many people would follow and defend you even if you once got banned for posting kiddie porn?
Maybe there'd be one idiot who would continue to insist there's no evidence and would knee-jerk support whatever crazy thing you might say. Now that would be a clique-follower.
Gee that sounds familiar.
So you've seen puppy dog sarc and shrike in the Stewart article.
All that Stewart article is missing is Jeffy and misconstrueman to complete the jerk.
"5 years for feet on a desk"
According to court documents, on January 6, Barnett spent 10 minutes in Pelosi's office and only left when he was sprayed with chemical irritant. During that time, he put his feet up on the Pelosi's desk and wrote a note to Pelosi, calling her a "b**ch." Court documents also state that Barnett had a stun gun in his pants while in the speaker's office and that he took an envelope from the office. Prosecutors said he left the Capitol showing the envelope to other rioters like it was a "trophy."
And yet BLM protestors fire bombed a police car for just over a year.
But please go on.
J6 is a holiday. For you democrats.
Yes, and she voluntarily traveled to that authoritarian country knowing she was voluntarily violating their drug laws. Sympathy zero.
And the drugs she took are also illegal in the US with it being Hashish oil. She would have served just as long here.
Only authoritarian countries throw people in prison for drugs…
Hell, take drugs into Japan and see how well one is treated.
If you're going to visit a country, you need to actually behave according to their laws.
She also brought an illegal substance across a national border apparently believing her celebrity status would protect her in Russia just like it protects her in the US. And she was partially correct. Her celebrity status got her released. Liz needs to find a better poster child. I have zero sympathy for this clown woman.
If you are a journalist, life in Moscow means constant fear of reprisal; pissing off the state means certain imprisonment
Not saying that Russia is any better, but we're experiencing some major press freedom issues at home right now. In fact, the whole point about American cities being garbage heaps because they're not run by authoritarians falls apart when you realize that American cities are, in fact, run by authoritarians.
This piece reminds me of the last time I was in Chicago. Rahm Emmanuel was mayor, and it was way cleaner than NYC. Both were run by authoritarians, but one was superior.
Maybe it has more to do with who's running the street sweeper department.
Ahem... Chicago is on lake MICHIGAN, thankyouverymuch.
Sincerely, publicly educated teen
Smartass.
Haha, good one. It’s erie that I didn’t catch it at first.
Ot-ta-wach what you say here… lots of fact checker
lame! i know, just had to try one
Huron the internet; it's OK.
Fast forward through the Lightfoot administration to the Johnson administration. I'm not sure how NYC is different (haven't really been there), but Chicago is definitely dirtier than just 6 years ago.
In only have Seattle as a gauge over 30-ish years. 30 years ago, you didn't worry about stepping in human feces at every corner.
I've got Chicago, Detroit, and to a lesser extent, Milwaukee to look at. Milwaukee has been about the same as it has been, neither better nor really worse over the past 20 years. Detroit has gotten better. Downtown, Midtown, New Center, and the Cass Corridor have all been cleaned up with people actually moving in. The bottle deposit law in the state helps keep the trash down as well. Chicago, while always dirty behind the scenes, has perceptibly gotten worse. There's a lot more homeless that there used to be, particularly under rail viaducts (of which there are many), a lot more vehicular thefts and carjackings, and a lot more boarded up/closed shops in places where none existed for the last 30 years like North Michigan Avenue and State Street in River North and the Loop.
I heard that the Russian dictator is censoring social media and trying to imprison his political opponents on novel charges, some of which are for breaking rules that don’t even exist.
Could you imagine?
Good one. +10
Didn't Obama and Biden have a habit of investigating journalists who they disliked?
And congress members. And Israel. Etc etc.
And Christians, and parents, and people that shop at sporting goods stores.
A 12 hour hunger strike? Bless their little hearts. Must have been so rough for them.
This just in: Harvard students threaten to hold breath until there’s a ceasefire.
Yes, please!
HU students...Keep holding the breath until you turn purple, please.
Any bets on the average weight of the "hunger" strikers?
Fudge round suppliers most devastated.
12 hours without even a Ho hos? They damn near died.
They're already used to deprivation due to shrinkflation.
I'm so not impressed. Shit, that's just dinner to breakfast for most of us.
That’s the joke Rommelman made.
Don't they love Islam now? Do they not know about Ramadan?
it is "doing something" without actually doing anything..... maybe they are studying for a career in politics.
[Moscow] is so much cleaner and safer and prettier, aesthetically.
Life is great for people in the capital. The other
1312 districts, not so much.I canceled my Scientific American subscription sometime in the late 1970s when their political article was come clown arguing that communist capitol cities were better than capitalist capitol cities. He chose pictures of the two Korean capitol cities as proof. South Korea -- colorful, lights, shoppers, store windows full of nice displays. North Korea -- gray, dull, empty, huge stone edifaces devoid of color. The color picture in fact looked like a b/w picture. No people, no cars, no nothing.
"No people, no cars, no nothing."
Lots of tunnels. More than Seoul.
North Korean architect always was rather Seoul-less.
Estonia's prime minister has been put on a wanted list in Russia because of her efforts to remove Soviet-era World War II monuments in the Baltic nation...
You know who else wanted the Baltics?
Pippi Longstocking
.
The person holding Mediterranean Avenue?
The NBA? Arvydas Sabonis!
Teutonic Knights?
possibly, even a $50 per hour minimum wage in the Bay Area.
Oh please, Santa, I didn’t ask for anything this Christmas, but PLEASE let this happen. This is all I could ever ask for. Pass the $50 minimum wage law in Oakland and San Fran, it would absolutely make my year.
i take it you work in automation.
Or have real estate to sell in Arizona and Colorado.
It was nice to see all the dems and sarc/Jeff's favorite Republicans work through the night to help citizens... of Ukraine.
Romney made a powerful speech about the importance of giving away your money to their war efforts.
I'm glad we only have to borrow 100% of the aid we are sending them.
Well plus the vig of course.
How is cutting off aid to the Ukraine different than cutting off aid to South Vietnam in 1975?
It’s a complete mystery why so many people are fed up with a certain section of the Republican Party and see Trump as a sledgehammer to be used against it.
"[Moscow] is so much cleaner and safer and prettier, aesthetically. Its architecture, its food, its service, than any … city in the United States. And this is not ideological. How did that happen? How did that happen? And at a certain point, I don't think the average person cares as much about abstractions as about the concrete reality of his life. And if you can't use your subway, for example, as many people are afraid to in New York City because it's too dangerous, isn't that the ultimate measure of leadership?"
This is something I noticed happening in the last twenty years when I travel. Ascetically, Warsaw, Seoul, Beijing and Dubai were far cleaner and more "advanced" than Toronto, New York, Chicago, Vancouver or San Francisco. North America is beginning to look dirty and worn by comparison. The bridges look beaten, the roads rough, the people fatter, uglier and more poorly dressed... almost anti-stylish, and not in a wholesome way.
And not just North America. London on my last trip (2018) was a big shock too. The whole city looked run down and broken, like it needed a scrubbing and a new coat of paint. I hadn't been there in almost a decade and it wasn't like that the last time.
Everything here looks like it's fraying by comparison.
It's been a while since I've been to Singapore. It had a surreal stepford wives vibe to it. But I lived in Jakarta for four years and that place was an absolute shithole. Kuala Lumpur was kinda this weird middle ground between the two.
Jakarta and KL are different types of modern 3rd world cities, where elites have some shiny stuff and most people live crap lives.
Hmm, sounds like the goal for SFC and NYC.
The ultimate outcome of heavy welfare states.
"The bridges look beaten, the roads rough, the people fatter, uglier and more poorly dressed… almost anti-stylish, and not in a wholesome way."
To follow up on this thought, watching some 90's and early 2000's TV shows also give me the same impression. The English speaking West is like an incredibly beautiful party girl who became fat and broke as she aged.
The English speaking West is like an incredibly beautiful party girl who became fat and broke as she aged.
Like its women, the western world had a great time racking up a body count in the salad days, but now she's hit the wall and is finding it hard to keep or even find a good man to take care of her.
One major difference here vs there is that, over there, they have pride for their cities and history.
Americans want to reject our past, which in turn, rejects our present.
Not so, with all the historical landmark legislation. I have a vague memory of something like a quarter of Manhattan being protected by historical landmark status.
I'm so old I can remember the City of New York dragging a 187-year-old statue of Jefferson out of City Hall two months ago, because slavery.
If only someone could have warned us that’s were tearing down confederate statues would get us…
Everything here looks like it’s fraying by comparison.
It's not just the infrastructure, it's the people and their nerves as well. Makes me wonder when, not if, things are going to come to a head.
I’m glad I live in the woods.
In you dont hate the media enough news, this time from Canada...
CTV News
@CTVNews
An alleged gang rape shocks Italy, and provides fodder for an ascendant far right
How dare migrant gang rape (3rd in the last 2 years) of a 13 year old be fodder for conservatives.
An alleged gang rape shocks Italy, and provides fodder for an ascendant far right
What happened to teaching rapists not to rape?
I think an Old Testament response is appropriate here.
This was cultural enrichment, you racist. It's only rape when a Cishet white man does it.
That sounds like white patriarchal oppression.
The 'republicans pounce' meme is evergreen and transcends all borders
And now, a little dose of joy and skimpy outfits from the Brazilians, who are celebrating Carnival right now.
Fat Tuesday not living up to its name in Brazil.
Someone didn't scroll through the entire page.
Oh no!
One reason why we don't have clean streets in New York the way they do in Singapore is because we don't cane people for minor crimes.
Yet we are constantly told by the usual suspects in the comment section that laws do not work to change people's behavoir. They are not magic. Must be something other than the caneings that keep things neat and tidy.
Nice catch.
"Singapore is a fine city! $300 fine for spitting, ...."
I remember making port calls there in the early 1970s and all the posters showing someone with "long" hair with the caption that they had to go to the back of whatever line they were waiting in.
"I just got back from the border
And what I saw made me know for sure
We're out of order...
And I never will go to Singapore
The people there will cut your hair
In Singapore"
- Down on the Border, Little River Band
Ownership. The person who has a vested financial interest in keeping the area neat and tidy will do so as long as they are allowed to do so. But in many instances in the United States, they no longer are. For example: https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-couple-robbery-beating-youtube
Those two did nothing wrong. Keeping your bike in your front yard doesn't mean somebody can enter and steal it no matter your intent for putting it there.
They should be getting medals.
Giuliani cleaned up New York back in the 90s. It was a revelation compared to travel there in the past. Crime dropped steeply.
Of course the progs screamed "authoritarian" and some wanted a return to the winos, whores and muggers that made NYC so colorful.
Daley used to keep Chicago clean, even if it was the Daleyland area around the Loop. Emmanuel kept many of King Richard II's policies in place. Lori let them go in the name of "social justice", then BJ let them fade away completely.
Sounds like Trump's fault.
A very good analysis of the state of the economy and how it doesn't match the new Bidenomics narrative of the economy doing well.
https://mises.org/wire/new-jobs-report-full-time-jobs-disappear-fewer-americans-find-work
If we take a larger look around, we find this: The Philadelphia Fed's manufacturing index is in recession territory. The same is true of the Richmond Fed's manufacturing survey. The Leading Indicators index keeps looking worse. The yield curve points to recession. Business bankruptcies surged 58 percent in 2023. Net savings turned negative for only the second time in decades. The economic growth we see is being fueled by the biggest deficits since covid.
So, if we look at the household survey, we find that there were actually job losses in January. While the establishment survey showed an increase of a whopping 353,000 jobs, the household survey showed a loss of 31,000 employed persons. Moreover, January was the second month in a row for job losses in the household survey. In December, the report showed a loss of 683,000 employed persons. That was the biggest loss since the covid collapse.
Meanwhile, government jobs in January totaled more than 20 percent of all new year-over-year job growth. Outside of covid, we haven't seen those sorts of numbers since late 2007 as the economy was nearing recession.
The distribution of wealth and earnings that the democrats decried for so long have gotten way out of proportion the last couple years. The bottom half to two thirds of the country is paycheck to paycheck at best currently. All of the GDP growth is government spending, and the jobs numbers under the adjusted headlines are shit. It really feels like something catastrophic is about to happen if things don't level out. We're on a dangerous path, and when the recession actually hits enough for the talking heads to feel it, it will be really bad.
Also, looking at the chart, it's pretty apparent when they started cooking the numbers. The last 2 years, the numbers don't seem to have any correlation between surveys.
Yeah. The cooking is obvious to anyone who looks at the data. Zero Hedge showed 2M jobs were revised down after initial reports last year.
Those same numbers noted economist Buttplug has been hailing here almost every day? What will Sarcasmic say?
I’ll try my best Sarc impression.
“Those numbers have to be right as they don’t come from you, ICP, Jesse, and the other mean girls. Did I mention I hate Trump? You guys are just so mean, telling my butt buddy SPB2 that his statistics are wrong. Do you have a cite where I said you were assholes? Did I mention I hate Trump? But I don’t agree with anything anyone I hate says, even if it might actually be correct. BTW, let me chug down this 40 of Colt 45 to stave off my hangover. Oh, and BTW, I hate Trump. Did I mention I hate Trump and anyone who supports/defends/even mildly agrees with him? Did I mention I hate Trump?”
A-
B+.....you failed to mention chemjeff. Had to take off points for that. 🙂
There's just no satisfying some people...
I was always a tough grader...lol
That was a great impression. The only thing that would have made it even more Sarc-like would be throwing in the re-coining of TDS to mean "Trump's Deranged Supporters" that he is so proud of.
Every day I read from media sources left and right that the economy is improving based solely on their faith in regime propaganda. The household employment number is always the most accurate and all of the job "growth" that they're bragging about is part time and government jobs. Any increase in GDP is entirely due to more trillions in "money" dumped into the economy by the regime. All of this reminds me of the savings and loan disaster that nobody noticed until after HW Bush got elected and the 2008 toxic asset bust that like came out of nowhere. One day soon the talking heads will breathlessly explain that we're fucked but nobody saw it coming.
It feels very 2008 like. Every day it was another victory lap for how great the economy was until all of a sudden it wasn't. The yield curve has been inverted for well over a year now. There are real consequences to that.
The "skimpy outfits" link is not worth clicking.
Agreed. I was definitely disappointed. Wake me up for Mardi Gras.
The fat Oprah in the gold bikini made me laugh.
No Jabba, the gold bikini goes on leigha
I wish I would have gotten to your comment first.
I initially came to say this.
Leave it to a left wing DEI propaganda outlet to go to a place packed with hot half naked brazilian women and manage to photo some fat cows and a disabled girl
Police label El Salvador born, trans, free Palestine shooter as white. Got to keep the statistics up to justify targeting churches and parents at school boards.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1757079921414091105
Do they label her as female?
Yes, they labeled it as female.
You know she was for palistine because she brought a child to use as a human shield
Lol.
Beautiful.
I'm still confused . Is she a MTF or a FTM? It's reported that she's the mother of the child and has an ex husband.
Come *on*, Fats! None of that contradicts *anything*!
Chick claiming to be a dude
I believe the term you're looking for is "mental defective".
>>brought a child to use as a human shield
fucking beautiful. lol.
There are a lot of intersectional boxes checked there.
They had to go through a casting agency to find this one. Next week she'll be on Star Trek: Discovery.
Wait, what? There’s a current Star Trek show?
Jeff's favorite news outlet who is unbiased and just the facts, the Associated Press, has recieved 8M to push climate alarmism from group whose primary goal is transition to green energy and strict energy policies.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/02/liberal-foundations-prop-up-climate-crisis-narratives-via-news-organizations/
Yeah, but whatabout the other side of the story?
What's interesting is that the cities Carlson picks out are a combo of authoritarian and non-authoritarian governments. So one could argue, that it isn't necessarily levels of authoritarianism that make downtown urban areas "nice."
I think most libertarians would argue that private property tends to be the most effective way of dealing with the "tragedy of the commons," but Tucker isn't a libertarian so...
Tucker Carlson is going Thomas Friedman. Never go full Thomas Friedman.
I do facepalm a bit at the first two examples of Putin's regime being objectionable is concern how ir affects journalists and LGBT lifestyles. It is something that says have become the bellwether standard of a moral society for progressives.
Britney Griner was likely arrested for political reasons to embarass Biden. On the other hand, she was an idiot for not having the self-discipline to be able to forgo her drug habit when traveling overseas to a country that is less tolerant of that sort of thing.
If Britney Griner is an example of a victim of an authoritarian government, so is Gonzalo Lira. And I really disliked Gonzalo Lira.
Wasn't she caught with CBD extract? It was certainly not a smart move to travel with it to a country like Russia. But I don't know if "drug habit" is the right word for what's basically a non-psychoactive herbal supplement.
More news from Colorado (1)
From the Colorado Sun:
Colorado Democrats push for ban on new oil and gas drilling in the state
Sen. Jaquez Lewis says she will push for total ban by 2030 and requiring oil and gas companies to pay more for abandoned wells
Jaquez Lewis said she is not under pressure from Gov. Jared Polis, who in the past has not backed the toughest oil and gas restrictions, to kill the idea before it’s introduced.
“As far as the governor is concerned, I try to work with him on all my legislation and will do so on this policy,” she said. “I know he is committed to doing what we can to increase renewable energy and reduce the tragic effects of climate change.”
McDreamy? But Democrats are not banning oil and gas, right?
"the tragic effects of climate change." Would be nice if she provided a cite for those "tragic effects".
For a Colorado legislator to not consider the tragic effects of freezing to death.
Would be nice if she provided a cite for those “tragic effects”.
Racist!
In regards to Moscow, nobody tell Liz about what happens to people that desecrate the pride flag, or pray silently next to an abortion clinic, or jounolists that don't toe the party line (Alex Jones and steyn, or right-wing protesters with their bank accounts, or non esg farmers and their bank accounts.
The US is the same if not worse than Russia, the difference is Russia has cleaner cities
(D)ifferent.
More news from Colorado (2)
From the Denver Post:
An income tax cut is on Polis’ wish list, and Republicans want one, too. Democrats just rejected the first attempt.
Colorado Republicans repeatedly invoked Gov. Jared Polis’ support Monday in a legislative effort that was all but doomed from the start: a cut to the state income tax.
McDreamy!
So dreamy.
Liz knows her audience:
"Little" dose indeed. Brazil ought to sue for defamation.
I humbly request she address this controversy by posting a more titillating link in tomorrow's roundup.
Did someone tell the Ruskies how great they have it, seeing that their sucide/alcoholic rates speaks more to it being a shithole?
Their sucide/alcoholic rates would be worse with dirty streets.
Tucker Dreams of Moscow
MAGA is fully pro-Soviet now.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Pedo is all for shovelling all of our money to a corrupt kleptocracy based out of Kiev.
Buttplug is fully neocon now.
So that makes you a Bushpig, right?
The 1980's called.
they want their foreign policy back.
Yep, and we should remind him of it every chance we get.
Do you know who else got the trains to run on time? /s
That Carlson is still the leading light of conservatism shows hollowness of American Conservatism. That the LP (Big L) is worshiping Putin as well just shows the entire Right is dead. Horseshoe theory.
Fortunately the political spectrum is more than a linear left vs right, both sides are fucking idiots in love with authoritarianism. I gotta side with Afred Jay Knock and declare myself a part of the Remnant. Neither left nor right, but in favor of freedom and liberty for all and opposed to big government in every incarnation. Maybe in a generation or two we can come back for a brief resurgence. But right now our civilization is doomed by the actions of both sides.
Well, no. It's DOOMED by fucking TDS-addled assholes like you.
Realizing that Mr. Trump is not up to the job does not make one "deranged" any more than saying that President Biden should not run again because his mental facilities are declining with age.
just shows the entire Right is dead. Horseshoe theory.
These are contradictory statements.
By definition, horseshoe theory demands that both sides never die.
What you mean is that they are dead to YOU.
But that isn't new, the realignment will continue on.
Do you know who else got the trains to run on time?
Fumio Kishida?
Who in the big (L) is worshipping Putin?
Seems Fulton County has a larger issue than the money laundering lying DA:
"...But the hearing revealed a possible new hurdle for Willis: county administrators have not turned over key documents subpoenaed by Ashleigh Merchant, attorney for former Trump White House aide Michael Roman, one of the 19 defendants charged in the county’s sweeping election interference and racketeering case with the former president.
Willis said in filings and in front of an Atlanta church audience that Wade was paid as much as other special prosecutors. Merchant is seeking employment records to potentially refute that assertion. Records released by the district attorney’s office to date show that Wade has billed more than half a million dollars to the county for work on the case..."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/12/fani-willis-hearing-special-prosecutor-relationship
"The defense is bringing you gossip,” said Fulton county special prosecutor Anna Green Cross. Willis does not stand to financially benefit from prosecuting the case, she said
I hear Willis is prosecuting pro bono and has waived any book deals or talk-show appearances.
She's relying on that half-a-mil she authorized for her lover.
The joke being that she has clearly been all over talk shows and has written two books specifically about the Trump case, including what are probably some improper disclosures of grand jury testimony.
Oh right, she claims not to be seeking fame or notoriety.
And certainly not involved for political purposes! No, indeedy!
I can remember in my youth when socialist and communists in this country traveled to Russia and extolled its virtues. Today it is the Maga populists. A simple analysis suggests Russia is never the best place then or now. What it has been and still is mostly a place for those with an ax to grind about the American economic and government systems.
One more lying pile of lefty shit heard from.
Didn't see where Tucker said Russia was great. He said it is safer than NYC and Philly, which I have no means of disagreeing, having never been to Moscow.
Saying "We have horrible policies" is not the same as "Russia is awesome!"
Yeah, everyone seems to be in a hurry to call Tucker a Putin fan of some sort. I don't follow him closely, but I did watch the interview and I didn't see anything that would make me think he is a supporter or booster of Putin. It is perfectly possible to think that the US is fucked up, maybe Russia does some things right and that maybe the Ukraine war isn't as clear cut as many would have us believe without being a supporter or admirer of Putin.
And as this thread is full of examples, our government is currently doing pretty much everything Putin does that gets him labeled “authoritarian”. And apparently all the retards think calling out hypocrites is the same as worshipping Putin.
Or they’re being dishonest.
They just don’t like having their abject hypocrisy thrown in their faces. It’s why they constantly bleat “whataboutism!”.
This is the 9th anniversary of the Obama "selfie stick" fake scandal.
I thought we had reached Peak Wingnut back then. Little did I know that QAnon would be a thing.
#PeakWingnut
turd, the TDS addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Go take your Droxy, Sevo. You don't want to get the heeby-jeebys again.
Why is there a "2" after your name?
The same reason Q is more credible than he is.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides
Hey buddy. Why didn't you report the growing inflation numbers this week?
I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL
Typed, unironically, from the couch in the home office.
Doubly ironic given that the last time I saw the phrase was when I was trying to cajole my 10 yr. old off the slopes.
>>trying to cajole my 10 yr. old off the slopes.
love it. I am never not the last person down. never.
>>foreign-exchange-student-likes-Barcelona-more-than-Paducah
great line.
>>If you are a journalist, life in Moscow means constant fear of reprisal; pissing off the state means certain imprisonment.
free. Pussy. Riot. and that WSJ guy ...
Seth rich is totally safe
well he was ... then he met H
>>The $95 billion emergency aid bill—$60 billion of which is meant for Ukraine, bringing the total U.S.-footed tab to $170 billion—must now clear the House, which makes its fate uncertain.
kind of also plus the whole thing about how if T doesn't give Zelenskyyyyy da money in 2025 and 2026 he gets impeached again
Yeah, that was clever. But there is no deep state!
can't wait to hear why Mike Gallagher thinks it's the right thing to do.
One reason why we don't have clean streets in New York the way they do in Singapore is because we don't cane people for minor crimes.
They don't cane people for minor crimes in Amsterdam or Tokyo either.
They probably don't release felons repeatedly without bail in any of those locations either.
>>200 grams of cannabis resin warrants execution
bloodstream count? 🙂
>>Matt Welch's 2021 piece, "No Self-Respecting American Should Aspire to Hungarian-Style Nationalism."
spoil it. does it whine about (R) too?
Hungarian-Style Nationalism doesn't have enough red weddings for Welch's tastes.
>>Hunger Strike for 12 Hours
that's a feeding window and it's too short.
nor do we lock people in jail for a decade for the purported crime of getting high.
So the last few decades of my fellow libertarians who say, "Our prisons are like... full of non-violent marijuana users" was in fact just bullshit? I knew it.
Here's my problem with this assessment Liz: In America, we're getting both.
Our cities are becoming zombie apocalypse hell holes while we ourselves turn into an authoritarian banana republic. Need I remind everyone of the guy getting arrested by a team of officers while wind-surfing? Need I remind everyone of the fact that we have in fact imprisoned journalists? Need I remind everyone we run roughshod over our own constitution, that we have a vast surveillance state whose purpose is to stamp out "misinformation"? Need I remind everyone that we aggressively prosecute and legally hour our opposition party candidates while a pliant state-aligned media cheers it on? Need I remind everyone that we ALSO invaded and slaughtered the citizens of other countries-- and did it under false circumstances and media-supported lies?
I mean, I get that it's great that in America, I can get as high as I want while taking a dump in front of city hall, and I can stream OnlyFans Tranny porn on my phone at the bus stop in front of children without the burden of Trump tariffs. But this country used to do a reasonable job of not having smash and grab flash mob shop lifting, not having street zombies as far as they eye could see AND let me own a large capacity magazine-- all at the same time. We forgot how we manage that delicate balance.
"Our cities are becoming zombie apocalypse hell holes while we ourselves turn into an authoritarian banana republic."
Literally, Proles, Outer Party and Inner Party. Looking forward to my Victory Gin.
Do you remember the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine two-parter "Past Tense", which predicted Sanctuary Districts in 2024?
Apparently, entire cities are becoming Sanctuary Districts.
... becoming?
Well I remember how the solution was to reinstate the government employment act.
And now, a little dose of joy and skimpy outfits from the Brazilians, who are celebrating Carnival right now.
And the first picture is of a woman in a mesh body glove. Thanks AP... way to zoomer-puritan it up.
Oh fuck, and the second picture? FUCK OFF WITH BODY POSITIVITY!
Oh for fuck sakes, a little kid? Jesus h fucking christ... and the last picture? She's practically wearing a parka.
Umm, ok, everyone... HERE is how you show Carnivale:
I approve this message!
Thank you good sir.
And another.
Are these safe for work?
I work from home, so 100%. But I’m not even wearing pants right now.
FYI, they're youtube so there's no real nudity. No... real nudity.
it’s that stripper from the Brazilian kids’ show …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jTqaoVEUqs
body positivity done correctly
Jesus h christ, if you promise me "skimpy outfits from Brazil", don't send me picture of the Church lady waving a Brazilian flag.
Let's see. Our only choices are an authoritarian in charge or a society where you're allowed to drug up, shit and sleep on the streets, OD, shoplift $999,99 dollars worth of merchandise per store, sneak into the country and help yourself to generous welfare benefits or start your own criminal enterprise and the DA will set you free without bail. Peak Libertopia.
No, those are NOT "our only choices." A third choice is a society where you are allowed to drug up and OD, but you are not allowed to shit and sleep on the streets or shoplift. There is nothing an authoritarian in charge can do to stop people from sneaking into the country; and it does NOT require an authoritarian in charge to end welfare benefits. Libertopia does not require ANY of those myths you want to keep perpetuating.
We have an authoritarian in charge and he invited masses of foreigners to rush the border. Reason is happy with this. The NY authoritarian governor opened the public purse to give welfare benefits to illegals. Reason may not be happy about this but they're not complaining. If anyone tried to close the border(Abbott) or shut illegals off from welfare (Proposition 187) an authoritarian judge will be found to declare those actions null and void.
The fact that the current set of authoritarians tend to offset each other is not a good recommendation for authoritarianism. And the operative word in your latest is “trying” … Abbott will fail just as everyone who tries to stop immigration will fail, but they will all do a lot of damage in the process of trying and failing.
Innumeracy runs deep among Ds:
" ‘Do the Math!’ Democratic Rep. Tries to Explain Her $50 Minimum Wage Proposal to Befuddled Rivals During Senate Debate"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/do-the-math-democratic-rep-tries-to-explain-her-50-minimum-wage-proposal-to-befuddled-rivals-during-senate-debate/ar-BB1idHsG?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=31d5f5a401e64f31bf26974e0ea80a21&ei=26
But math is racist.
I hope Lee gets elected. It won’t make any difference in terms of how California senators vote, but electing a Democrat as obviously dumb as her will serve as a warning to the rest of the country.
I wouldn't bet on it. Just when California elects some idiot, Illinois says "hold my Old Style".
PLEASE let me have this. Just do it. DO IT, Cowards. I welcome it. I WANT to see this. I’ll give up beer for the rest of the year if you just give me this.
” ‘Do the Math!’ Democratic Rep. Tries to Explain Her $50 Minimum Wage Proposal to Befuddled Rivals During Senate Debate”
“Bufuddled”?! Yeah, I remember “befuddled” rivals during the $15 Now! Debates. We ended up agreeing to disagree and we got $20.
So at this point, I’m not sure what constitutes “befuddled” when discussing a $50 minimum wage… people who want to go to $75?
If she gets her way, there will be a whole new cohort finding out that the real M/W is $0.00.
"... if you can't use your subway because it's too dangerous, isn't that the ultimate measure of leadership?"
No, Tucker, it's NOT the ultimate measure of leadership. Leadership is getting people to do what they ought to do that you cannot MAKE them do. Leadership is setting the basic ground rules in such a way that people can cooperate voluntarily. Most people WANT to cooperate and do the right thing if they are allowed to. You don't HAVE to make them behave, and you can't make them behave anyway. Carlson may be trying to suck too many cocks all at the same time ... very unappetizing!
(1) Carlson didn’t praise the authoritarian aspects of life in Moscow.
(2) US cities in the 1970’s and 1980’s were vibrant cultural and artistic centers, and they were quite safe for middle class people; these days, they are filled with drug addicts living in tents and pooping on the street. Yes, US cities have deteriorated massively.
(3) I do enjoy gay bars. The LGBT movement has destroyed them. The LGBT movement is bigoted, intolerant, and anti-gay.
Liz: you are an ignoramus.
The LGBT movement is bigoted, intolerant, and anti-gay.
They want to gaslight and castrate gay teens and force them into dresses, but you're homophobic for thinking that's terrible.
The thing to realize is that the “LGBT movement” is not a gay movement, it’s a neo-Marxist movement consisting mostly of straight people and ideologues.
We know that because the percentage of gay people in the population is still 2-3%, yet 30-40% of teenagers identify as “LGBTQIA+”.
When you throw shit like "demiromantic" into the "+", it basically encapsulates everyone.
Demiromantic - "people who only feel romantic attraction after the development of a deep emotional bond"
It's made up bullshit so you don't have to put yourself into the oppressor class of "straight".
They want to gaslight and castrate gay teens and force them into dresses, but you’re homophobic for thinking that’s terrible.
This is where I'm going to push back. There is an activist wing that has been taken over by the T part of the LGBT movement-- many in the gay community even going so far as to say that the T doesn't even belong in the alphabet, and as Douglas Murray says, there's even debate as to whether the 'B' belongs there, but that's a much more nuanced, and older debate.
There is a group in the UK that calls itself the LGB alliance who's seriously pushing back against this shit.
But they're not part of the cult.
The alphabet sex cult is a group who think "Queer" is a psycho-social identity rather than a bunch of different sexual predilections.
You can be a conservative gay man with a taste for BBQ and a love of muscle cars, and you can be a left-wing, vegan gay man who thinks gasoline is planet murder. You can be a feminine lesbian who like soap operas, beautiful dresses and cooking, and a stereotypical bull who likes libertarianism and barfights.
But the alphabet sex cult says that you're all the same thing and that who you fuck is the most important part of what makes you who you are, and not all those other things.
US cities in the 1970’s and 1980’s were vibrant cultural and artistic centers
New York was a shithole then, Guiliani cleaned it up, DeBlasio fucked it up and Adams is as incompetent as Dinkins.
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https://nypost.com/2024/02/12/metro/multiple-people-shot-at-mount-eden-subway-station-in-bronx/
I was not allowed in NYC as a teen in the 80s but Philly was okay lol
I used to run around in Philly in the early 80's as a teen. Back then, you could if you were careful. Today? NFW.
South Street ... Zipperhead ... we'd sneak off to from suburban Jersey
The TLA was a blast.
NYC was a vibrant cultural and artistic center with a lot of drugs, crime, and prostitution. You put up with the bad parts of the city because it was worth it.
These days, there is nothing worthwhile there anymore: the shows, the museums, the art, the theater, it’s all a pale shadow of its former self.
Drugs, crime, and prostitution were openly practiced in the heart of the city. Tourists were mugged at knife point or gunpoint in Times Square, in broad daylight. Most of the movie houses turned to porn. It was peak AIDS. The number of murders hovered around 2000 annually.
The irony is that as NYC got better much of the rest of US cities turned to shitholes.
Drugs, crime, and prostitution were openly practiced in the heart of the city. Tourists were mugged at knife point or gunpoint in Times Square, in broad daylight.
Sounds like Chicago, just yesterday. Of course, they might even try to shoot their competition here.
https://cwbchicago.com/2024/02/chicago-tow-truck-driver-attempted-murder-2-competitors-on-pretrial-release.html
Yes, there were parts of the city that were dangerous. There were other parts that were safe. You knew where you could go and couldn’t go. And NYC also was a cultural, intellectual, and artistic hub, pretty much unique in the world.
These days, you have crime and dirt across the city and there is nothing worthwhile in NYC anymore.
If you are a journalist, life in Moscow means constant fear of reprisal; pissing off the state means certain imprisonment.
So, just like the US then, except for establishment hacks like you, Liz.
If you enjoy gay bars or other forms of LGBT-oriented nightlife, get ready for police raids.
Yeah, in the US, the progressive government has simply taken over gay organizations and bars and destroyed them from within, to the point that gay men are not welcome anymore in the places we founded and built.
If you’re an evangelical protestant, you will not be permitted to live out your faith.
Again, just like blue states in the US then.
Looks to me like we got all the negatives of Russian/Singapore-style authoritarianism without the benefits of clean and safe streets.
Yeah, in the US, the progressive government has simply taken over gay organizations and bars and destroyed them from within, to the point that gay men are not welcome anymore in the places we founded and built.
Wait 'til you see what we're doing to the women's bathroom.
They're fucking up men's rooms as well.
https://mynorthwest.com/3936983/rantz-port-of-seattle-puts-tampons-in-mens-bathrooms-even-before-womens/
Yeah, but here's the thing. If some bitch wants to stand next to me at the urinal... I really don't care. I mean that, I really don't care. And the reason I don't care is there are fundamental differences between men and women, especially in the realm of sex and modesty. Some male-identifying bitch wants to stand next to me at the urinal and try to steal glances at my junk? Go for it.
But some 190lb dude wants to follow my daughter into the changing room, there's going to be a lot more than rude words exchanged.
What do you mean? Tampons are great for nose bleeds and for impersonating extraterrestrials on Halloween!
Tampons are also great if you want to ford a river in your off-road vehicle. You stick one in the fuel filler neck, and keep the water out of the tank.
Tampon, the aspiration of royal reincarnation dreams.
https://time.com/6226657/crown-charles-camilla-tampongate/
Are straight people even allowed in gay bars anymore? Before we were married Mrs. DesigNate and I would go dancing with our lesbian friends all the time at some places in Dallas.
>(Over the last decade, more than 500 Jehovah's Witnesses have been convicted of or charged with extremism, with many serving sentences.)
I'm going to say something kinda facetious here but, good;) Stop bothering people on Saturday.
Secondly - 500 in 10 years? Are we sure these people weren't actually extremists? And the whole 'won't be allowed to live your religion' part, how many JW's are there in Russia that 50/year being arrested is putting a vice to the rest?
Tucker Dreams of Moscow
I liked it better when Rammstein released both Amerika and Moskau back-to-back on Reise, Reise 20 yrs. ago.
du hast.
Forgot how good that album was.
Saw them right before the pandemic and they were STILL as good as they've always been.
Never would have thought they'd have that kind of staying power, but middle aged me admits, they are the real deal.
>Its architecture, its food, its service, than any … city in the United States.
I will say this *against* Tucker - Moscow's a gorgeous city if you're rich. You're living in a slum, eating potato soup if you're not. I bet Tucker didn't get to see the slum parts.
To be fair, in my city, you kind of can't NOT see the Slum parts.
>Carlson goes on to say that Singapore, Tokyo, Dubai, and Abu Dhabi "are wonderful places to live."
Outside of Singapore (which is a genuinely gorgeous place all over), uh, again, Tokyo, Dubai, and Abu Dhabi are incredible places - if you're rich. Tokyo looks like Pittsburgh in a lot of places (with NYC rents) and Dubai and Abu Dhabi, well, you're living like poor New Yorkers, 5 to a room if you're not.
>One reason why we don't have clean streets in New York the way they do in Singapore is because we don't cane people for minor crimes.
No caning needed, Wolfe. We have clean streets in Yuma, Phoenix, and Tucson - and we don't cane people either.
Then again, it didn't take us more than 30 years to get side-loading garbage trucks and we *never* just tossed our bagged trash out into the street. NYC is covered in trash because New Yorkers don't care.
>We also don't tend to use corporal punishment for our children.
mmm. Maybe you should give it a try?
>but there are many possible ways of doing so that could still protect civil liberties and wouldn't turn American cities into authoritarian hellholes.
I think Tucker's point - and I don't think its actually true - is that authoritarian hellholes don't allow themselves to degeneration to NYC/SF levels that then need to be cleaned up.
You're correct that authoritarianism isn't a necessary component - look at flyover country to places that are clean and free.
Something both Tucker and you miss though is that, ironically, its the *most authoritarian places* in the US that are shitholes. NYC, Baltimore, DC, SF, Detroit, Chicago, etc. Its just the authoritarianism of the *LEFT*, not the 'Right' (as exemplified by Russia, Singapore, Abu Dhabi, etc).
So while I don't think authoritarianism is good or necessary, if you have to live under an authoritarian government - maybe a place that has mandatory church attendance is going to end up a better place to live than one that has gay bars?
> like Brittney Griner.
For smuggling drugs into the country?
Like, I don't think what she did should be a crime, but she does that coming into the US and she's still gonna spend some time in a fed pen.
To Catch A Smuggler not just a tv show ...
> as a group of Republicans split from their party and voted with the Democrats.
Of course they did.
As if Israel needs our help;) They're doing fine on their own. I think this is an attempt to try to set up some sort of leverage - 'do what we say or we'll withhold the money you don't need and didn't ask for'. All in order to protect Hamas. Disgusting.
^This.
They don't need to give Israel a cent, just mind their own business and get out of their way.
I assumed it was to give those loser Republicans a defense for voting for the bill.
"I did not vote for Ukraine money. I voted for money for Israel!"
I like Israel a lot. But I do not think they desperately need the money. And they are rather good about paying money back.
Ukraine? Not so much.
"Dmitry Peskov, a spokesperson for the Kremlin, said that Kallas is a wanted person on the grounds of “desecration of historical memory,” according to Reuters. He told reporters, “These are the people who take hostile actions against historical memory and our country.”" The Estonian PM apparently is removing Soviet-era monuments from her country. You just cannot make this stuff up, although Tucker Carlson can SUCK this stuff up ...
"The $95 billion emergency aid bill—$60 billion of which is meant for Ukraine, bringing the total U.S.-footed tab to $170 billion—must now clear the House, which makes its fate uncertain."
when i have a friend who is hitting hard times, they never look at me and expect me to just GIVE them money. they ask to borrow some..... i let them pay back when they can without interest..... but i don't just give it to them...... i certainly don't take out a loan myself to give them money....
and i find myself wondering why this is never talked about when we have allies that need some help. why is it so unheard of to offer them a loan with favorable terms? why can't we send aide without it being a complete gift? if we did this, maybe we wouldn't have to keep sending more. the allies we are assisting would have motive to use the aid to get to a point where they don't need more, whether that means finding an end to war or getting their fiances in order. (which pretty much sums up the excuses for sending it.)
Trump suggested making Ukraine aid a loan.
And that seems very sensible.
We should also turn our NATO contributions into a loan and charge it to the NATO nations not satisfying their treaty obligations (well, actually, we should just leave NATO, but until then…).
“And that seems very sensible.”
There are private sector banks that Ukraine or Israel could turn to for loans. Is it really necessary for the US government to be involved in financing these wars? If the loans are too risky for the private sector, all the more reason for the US government to find better things to do with our money.
It's those damn joooooze, right Nazi shit?
I think the US should give neither money nor loans to Ukraine.
However, if politicians want to support Ukraine (and they do), it is legitimate to require Ukraine to repay the money we give them, as opposed to just handing them a bucket of money with no strings attached.
The money all eventually ends up in the congressmen and senators and their donors dividends, so in a way they're Investing In America.
Like the government's student loan program. Risky but deserving.
Shoving money into the pockets of the US MIC is not “investing in America”; to the contrary, it harms the US economy.
Basically. I'm thrilled I can keep Raytheon executives living large. Really, I am.
i can cope with us giving a loan a private bank would not to an ally..... i would loan money to a friend who could not qualify for a loan. (once, at least..... circling back to that incentive for them to use the money to be in a position to not need more.)
Nor (I would hope) do you steal it from other people and loan that to your friend.
no.... that is a whole different layer of the onion..... I'm just talking of the "we should help our friends if we can" aspect. how our government gets the money it spends is a much bigger issue, in general.
Good edit. Do more like this.
Hey Liz, if journalists fear reprisals in totalitarian regimes, care to explain the treatment of journalists covering J6 and their treatmentmpkus your silence? Thought not.
Tuck's Kremlin interview was a real blast from the SALT Talks past.
There was even a Napoleon sized central casting apparatchik in a bad suit droning on for hours about " objective historical circumstances " from a text guaranteed to please the Chief Ideologist of the Central Committee.
Putin hates the communists that used to run the USSR.
Putin's riff was as full of corny marxist catch phrases as a memo from his old boss Andropov.
It's droll to see Tuck hanging out with the KGB's answer to a neocon.
Au contraire madame, he never said that the system was one that he envied. He would never want anyone to think that were his intentions when he spoke of Moscow like he did. I suspect that you are a Tucker-hater and want to taint anything that he says. What he said about Moscow on the surface, was that it was very clean and architecturally beautiful. Where do you find that in the United States? Our poor governance of our cities has allowed to to fall into a bucket of slime. Most all of this is due to the hallowed civil liberties that you allude to. So do you mean that for our civil liberties we should allow the subways to be dangerous, our buildings painted with subway art (not Michelangelos), trash thrown all over the place, tents and feces on the sidewalks, etc. It's time to understand that these people are mentally ill and need to be institutionalized like they were before. I think you have gone overboard in analyzing Tucker and owe him an apology.....
Who gives a f’ what Tucker thinks.