Yes, Biden Absolutely Told Coal Miners To Learn To Code
Where are the misinformation czars and the mainstream media fact-checkers now?

Chris Cillizza is a former television pundit and political reporter. Beginning in 2005, he blogged about elections for The Washington Post, focusing on lightning-fast political analysis. In 2017, he joined CNN as an on-air commentator, writer, and all-around politics explainer. His superficial punditry, boldly incorrect predictions, and arbitrarily numbered lists earned him many detractors on both the right and the left, and CNN laid him off in 2022.
I hate to pile on since the man no longer speaks and writes on behalf of a large mainstream media outlet. (He is currently writing for Substack.) But on Wednesday, he made a claim on X—where he has 600,000 followers—that is completely, and instructively, wrong.
It just didn't happen.
And, again, no journalist said "learn to code." And neither did Biden. https://t.co/Tkd6lpvEnt
— Chris Cillizza (@ChrisCillizza) January 24, 2024
Our story begins with Cillizza observing—accurately—that there's something mean-spirited about rejoicing in another person's economic misfortune. Specifically, the Los Angeles Times recently laid off 20 percent of the newsroom, a reflection of the difficult times for many journalistic outlets. Conservatives perceive the media as an incredibly hostile enemy, and many on the right are positively giddy at the prospect of journalists facing unemployment.
The media industry does, in fact, have a lot of problems—including, in some cases, biases against nonliberal perspectives that create blind spots—but many individual reporters and editors and entire newsrooms are doing important work. That work often involves shining a spotlight on local issues; calling attention to waste, fraud, and abuse; and investigating corrupt government figures. As the Washington Examiner's Tim Carney put it, no one is better served by shrinking newspapers than "crooked or inept politicians." And in any case, even if the media landscape is frequently toxic, it's cruel to gratuitously champion firings.
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One X user responded to Cillizza with a statement of "zero sympathy" because many journalists had applauded layoffs when the victims were unvaccinated and out-competed blue-collar workers. This X user claimed that journalists had derisively advised these workers to obtain new skills—i.e., "learn to code."
Cillizza responded: "It just didn't happen. And, again, no journalist said 'learn to code.' And neither did Biden."
Set aside whether the first part is true. The second part is obviously, patently false.
At a 2019 campaign rally in New Hampshire, then-candidate Joe Biden described the possibility of coal miners transitioning to more environmentally friendly labor. "Anybody who can go down 3,000 feet in a mine can sure as hell learn to program as well," he said. His remarks were reported by The Washington Post's David Weigel and The Hill, the latter making note of the job-retraining aspects of Biden's platform.
Cillizza's tweet—or X, or whatever we're calling them now—is wrong on its face. Reporters and pundits get things wrong all the time; he's not guilty of some unique transgression. But it's telling that almost 24 hours after Cillizza first penned it, it's still up. He's posted multiple times since. It's hard to believe he hasn't seen any of the numerous comments correcting him, since he seems to be the kind of person who reads the replies.
But there's something else notable about this extremely wrong tweet, and that's the real reason I decided to write about it: No misinformation experts or fact-checking organizations are springing into action to save social media from the threat of this clearly incorrect claim. Yet it has been corrected, in some sense—not by the self-proclaimed experts, but by the X community—specifically, Community Notes, the platform's crowd-sourced fact-checking system.
Community Notes, formerly called Birdwatch, predates Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter, though Musk is a big supporter of the feature. It allows users to add a contextualizing statement to the bottom of a tweet, and other users can rate the accuracy and helpfulness of that note. It's not a perfect system, and it doesn't mean that the platform is going to be free of false information. But letting users make such determinations has a proven track record of success in other scenarios; consider Wikipedia, which certainly has its detractors, but generally functions as a useful compendium of accurate information.
Contrast the Twitter/X approach with the one favored by Facebook, which has deputized third-party activist organizations to do the fact checking on the platform. This has frequently resulted in wrongful fact checks, including of Reason content produced by John Stossel. I tangled with Facebook's fact-checkers, too: In December 2021, Facebook labeled one of my Reason articles as "false information checked by independent fact-checkers." According to the label, I had wrongly claimed that masking schoolchildren didn't work. But I never said such a thing—I had merely made note of an Atlantic article that called into question the validity of a scientific study in favor of mask mandates in schools. (The Atlantic article had received no Facebook fact check, even though my version made the exact same claims.)
Facebook eventually conceded that I was right and removed the inaccurate label. Perhaps the platform needs to hire fact-checkers for the fact-checkers. Better yet, it could try something along the lines of Community Notes.
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News flash: Joe Biden is an asshole that the media supports, more at 11:00.
Wonder why this comment made it to reason and not the repeated threats of f15s to push gun control. Because it involves journalists?
Of course they support Biden! If Trump is elected, he's going to round up all the journalists and put them in death camps.
Just ignore the last 2 presidents to actually issue search warrants on journalists and their families was Obama and Biden.
After he did that in 2016, I'm surprised there are any journalists left.
After the bombs drop two things will happen:
1. Cockroaches will scamper out from all their hidey holes.
2. Mainstream journalists will lament the plight of female cockroaches forced to repopulate the planet.
Male cockroaches can lay eggs, too.
Maybe Sarcasmic DID have a kid.
There were hardly any actual journalists before 2016.
That's more of a BREAKING NEWS or THIS JUST IN kind of headline.
"Where are the misinformation czars and the mainstream media fact-checkers now?"
Ya I love this sub head. I mean I know its rhetorical, but I would have just had the subhead
"The fact checkers work for the DNC"
which is absolutely true and the reason why we are here
Robby, like all Reason staff, wants to maintain the gaslight that the "fact checkers" are independent truth tellers only occasionally guilty of hypocrisy.
And Reason falls in line like the obedient footstools they are
https://twitter.com/TheWorthyHouse/status/1750614241264988649?t=y7NAMXYoCALx3kFnMlLtHg&s=19
You can tell that the Texas affair is crushingly bad for the Regime because a search for “Texas” on the NYT’s front page returns–nothing.
As the Washington Examiner's Tim Carney put it, no one is better served by shrinking newspapers than "crooked or inept politicians."
In the past Carney has commented on corporate medias growing dependence on "anonymous sources" and softball questions to not lose access to government. These are the largest newspapers. Whose ownership groups buy out the smaller outlets.
I wouldn't say reductions at the outlets that rely so much on pushing democrat or bureaucratic narratives of the Federal system will help or harm crooked or inept politicians.
What we are seeing in real time is people go to outlets they trust, including substack. This is a good thing and better than journalistic cronyism of major corporate outlets.
Tim Carney may put it that way, but it’s obviously false. Biden is both crooked and inept and no one has benefitted more from media propaganda than him. Their Russian Collusion Hoax and pandemic hysteria put him in office while their defense of Hunters open corruption gives him a chance to stay.
The media like to pretend they are watchdogs, but in reality they are the Praetorian Guard.
A Praetorian Guard for one side only.
I’m sure Fox would like to replicate the left’s success. But the left media is powerful because they are allied to and act in concert with the education system, government bureaucracy, and NGO/Charity Complex. Fox has what, a third of the religious community?
Fox News is false opposition. They side with the left on all critical issues and push the same perspective. I haven't watched it in a while, but they pushed covid, George Floyd and systemic racism, the Russia hoax, and a totes "free and fair" election with no chance of fraud whatsoever.
Fox News exists to keep the right at home and passive.
"But the left media is powerful because they are allied to and act in concert with the education system, government bureaucracy, and NGO/Charity Complex."
That sounds like Mussolini's definition of fascism.
The democrat party is functionally a fascistic organization that sponsors and engages in acts of terror to push global fascism and Marxism.
I wouldn’t say reductions at the outlets that rely so much on pushing democrat or bureaucratic narratives of the Federal system will help or harm crooked or inept politicians.
You stole my thunder there. When the newspapers serve as the handmaidens of the crooked or inept politicians, as they currently do, their shrinking only serves to diminish their ability to publish propaganda on behalf of those crooked or inept politicians.
Most major media outlets (I refuse to call them ‘news outlets’ and their employees are in no way journalists) are staffed exclusively by democrats or unregistered leftists. This is obvious at NYT, WaPo, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, and many media magazines, like The Atlantic.
They don’t report news. Instead they are there to sell various aspects of global Marxism. Period.
The coding and coaling trades may merge in the face of the exponentially growing demand for energy to run AI servers.
Except that AI may make coders obsolete, but not coalers.
Can we just fast forward to using people as batteries for our AI overlords?
How do you know we aren't already there?
"Facebook eventually conceded that I was right and removed the inaccurate label. Perhaps the platform needs to hire fact-checkers for the fact-checkers. Better yet, it could try something along the lines of Community Notes."
But they won't, which is why I left Facebook and won't go back.
Facebook fact checkers were caught up in government collusion under CISA. Should have been noted by Robby.
And it looks like the are infiltrating community notes.
Yeah. Saw that article. One poster with thousands of notes, similar accounts upvoting that account over others.
It would have been so easy for Soave to agree with conservatives that mainstream journalists are almost exclusively left-wing. He can argue about whether we should celebrate assholes losing their jobs, but the public sees a bunch of lying propagandists losing their large, overly compensated platforms from which they misinform the public.
This comes so close to admitting that the media and fact checkers defend the left while attacking the right and yet can't go against the tribe
I mean he was so close:
"The media industry does, in fact, have a lot of problems—including, in some cases, biases against nonliberal perspectives that create blind spots"
In this case, the word 'some' could be replaced with stronger wording, such as '95% of' or if we still wanted to be wishy-washy about it, 'many' or 'most'.
-Russia collusion
-Covid
-Covington Catholic
-Reins as whips
-Covid again
-Kyle Rittenhouse
-Covid once more
-Hunter Biden laptop
-Joe Biden's "stutter"
-And my personal favorite, "This is Maga country!"
'Fine people on both sides' probably has gotten the most traction and airtime, and is with a quick google search, provably false
Or the anonymous source claiming Trump called serviceman "losers." Meanwhile, Joe looks at his watch.
"Cillizza responded: "It just didn't happen. And, again, no journalist said 'learn to code.' And neither did Biden."
Set aside whether the first part is true. The second part is obviously, patently false."
Why are we setting aside the first part, again? And why are we skipping over the entire previous part about (some / many) journalists appearing to show 'zero sympathy' for people in other industries experiencing layoffs, or forced out of jobs due to tyrannical and illegal pandemic restrictions?
Or the presumption of almost the entire band of glorified typists that everyone could just 'work from home' and do their jobs on a computer, only to suddenly be threatened with the emergence of AI, possibly replacing their jobs?
That's just schadenfreude, man, people enjoy seeing others hoisted by their own petard sometimes. And have for a while - that's why the Germans have a word for it. Journalists have made themselves a despised class to many by acting despicably and dishonestly.
And I'm sure that we can come up with more than one example of a journalist suggesting an entire industry sector full of workers should 'learn to code'.
How much of.the news media was not cheerleading the attempts to coerce hestitant people into getting COVID mRNA vaccinations by threatening their livelihoods?
Whether or not the specific words "learn to code" was used is kind of not seeing the forest for the trees.
I do enjoy seeing journalists hoist upon their own retard.
Corporate journalists aren't people.
“Conservatives perceive the media as an incredibly hostile enemy, and many on the right are positively giddy at the prospect of journalists facing unemployment.“
Notice the difference between how he describes left and right. The idea that media is generally hostile to the right has to be couched as a perception of others because he’s unwilling to state obvious truths if they might offend the left. But in the very same sentence he’s willing to state as fact in his own voice negative characterizations about the right.
Reasoners aren’t great at speaking truth to power are they? So much for their fake “were proudly independent” fundraising pitch.
It's one of the things I hate about Reason writers. Even when they come close to being right they still feel the need to let their partisan bias show through extremely lopsided framing. Democrats get generally positive framing with criticism amounting to correcting minor errors for an ally. Republicans are always the evil other interpreted in the most negative context possible. Any criticism of the left requires some sort of irrelevant both sides argument where they spend most of the criticism on the right.
Then go away.
Soave, its (D)ifferent and you know this.
Stop writing articles like these where you pretend to be confused about why this is happening. You know why its happening - call it out for what it is.
Maybe one of us could donate a testicle...
I nominate Rachel Maddow, gotta start small to keep the shock low.
Perhaps it would be better to own this one. Telling coal miners to learn coding is no different than telling Liberal Art Majors to go to technical college and get a job skill. I understand politically it is bad, but pretending there is a future for anyone in jobs that are on the way out is foolish.
And for people who were out of work specifically and only due to pandemic-era restrictions that your party / political affiliates not only supported but enforced? Is it fair then?
https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1324896645297954816
The only reason coal mining is on the way out is Democrats. Coal has demand, Liberal Art Majors are worthless.
Liberal Art Majors are worthless.
*gasp*
How many people just fainted?
My personal favorite is the UMW leadership telling it's members to vote Democrat, when it's the Democrats who want to put the miners out of work. Wake up! You guys pay DUES to them for them to tell you this!
When I say unions are a good idea but a horrible reality....this is what I mean.
You should not be billed dues to have people work against your interests.
Coal demand is limited to residual users. No one is building coal fired boilers, there is no market. As the residual facilities are closed so is the need for coal. Coal is an extremely dirty fuel with large amounts of impurities that user have to account for. It not just the smoke stake emission there is also the fly ash problem. It is simple easier to go with alternate fuels or technology for power.
This is why people think you're a parody.
Coal is one of the world's major sources of electrical generation. China's building coal power plants at a rate of almost one a day.
Well then, coal miners don't need to learn to code, they need to learn to read and speak Chinese, because China is where the coal mining jobs are.
coal miners don’t need to learn to code, they need to learn to read and speak Chinese
An even better line! You should send that one to Biden.
I occasionally see the nightly news tell us about 20 coal miners die in an accident. Then tell us 7200 die in average over there. Um, that is an average day over there and there must be days of no deaths and some days of double that. Just journalist pushing out filler when needed
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-25/ai-needs-so-much-power-that-old-coal-plants-are-sticking-around?leadSource=uverify%20wall
Liberal Art Majors are worthless.
That six-dollar cup of coffee won't make itself.
Telling coal miners to learn coding is no different than telling Liberal Art Majors to go to technical college and get a job skill.
it is very different.
Liberal arts majors with no job skills are a vital demographic for Democrats: Democrats want these people desperate, stupid, indoctrinated, and deep in debt for life (single and castrated are even better).
Hard working coal miners are irrelevant to Democrats.
Except most liberal arts majors are white and privileged. So they can afford to not acquire any useful job skills and live off their parents dime, if not their basement, while getting a grad degree to become a high paid administrator
become a high paid administrator
That's not going to be available much longer. The College Scam is coming to an end.
Well, some do start successful bakeries or dog walking businesses
They are also the ones that want sugar daddy government to pay off their student loans
No one doubts the hard-working ethics of coal miners. But the same could be said for the people who worked in typewriter factories or who made VCRs.
All those jobs, including mining, were mostly automated decades ago
As long as those liberal arts majors are demanding we forgive their student loan debt I believe we have the right to suggest other training and employment options for them.
pretending there is a future for anyone in jobs that are on the way
We are entering a future in which there will simply not be jobs for large numbers of people. Most of them will probably not volunteer to die, so we will need new ways of doing things to allow them to either make a living or be supported.
And in any case, even if the media landscape is frequently toxic, it’s cruel to gratuitously champion firings.
If the media landscape is frequently toxic how can it be considered gratuitous to champion firings??
I guess we need fairly targeted championing of firings.
well if we get the toxic ones that will leave maybe 5% of the current media but it might leave a preponderance of ones with conservative values
Breaking news: Joe Biden is promoting election denialism against governor Glenn Youngkin. He's clearly fomenting insurrection.
He referred to McAuliffe as the “real” governor even though he hasn’t been governor since 2017. Could have just been typical Biden dementia moment and Youngkin played it well-saying Biden is “easily confused”
Biden might think it is 2017.
Stacy Abrams hardest hit
He is currently writing for Substack.
As has been pointed out, if he has anything worthwhile to offer he will do better there than he did at WaPo or CNN.
I think it's nice, really, that the pajama class cares enough to gaslight us on their past sentiments.
This interaction with Cilizza is EXACTLY why the journo and ruling class wants Elon gone. Taking Twitter from friendly propaganda hands and letting the people community note, doing some actual fact checking contrary to the state run propaganda, is their kryptonite.
Among the many, many lies told by Biden, the MSM, and Cilizza, this doesn't even make the top 100.
"consider Wikipedia, which certainly has its detractors, but generally functions as a useful compendium of accurate information."
I call bullshit.
Rewriting history. Wikipedia style
This is the text I captured April 15th 2020.
At this time (1665), there were only about 300 people of African origin living in the Virginia Colony, about 1% of an estimated population of 30,000. The first group of 20 or so Africans were brought to Jamestown in 1619 as indentured servants. After working out their contracts for passage money to Virginia and completing their indenture, each was granted 50 acres (20 ha) of land (headrights). This enabled them to raise their own tobacco or other crops.
This is how it now reads
At this time, there were only about 300 people of African origin living in the Virginia Colony, about 1% of an estimated population of 30,000. The first group of 20 or so Africans were brought to Point Comfort in 1619 as enslaved Africans. After working between 15 and 30 years, most were granted their freedom to purchase land and start their own homestead.
(this bit has been added)
Although most historians believe slavery, as an institution, developed much later, they differ on the exact status of their servitude before slavery was established, as well as differing over the date when this took place. The colonial charter entitled English subjects and their children the rights of the common law, but people of other nations were considered foreigners or aliens outside the common law. At the time, the colony had no provision for naturalizing foreigners.
Welcome to the revolution!
A bit more – – – –
The changes were made on October 29, 2020:
Major restatements were from ‘indentured servant’ to ‘enslaved African’, from ‘Jamestown’ to ‘Point Comfort’ (perhaps to avoid searches including Jamestown? Point Comfort is 40 miles downriver from Jamestown), from ‘granted land’ to ‘granted their freedom to purchase land’ (after serving an indenture, they were free by law, and no granting of the freedom to purchase was needed).
Here is the link to the edit page
https://en.wikipedia.org/ w/index.php?title=John_Casor &diff=next&oldid=979332193
Actually, I was researching blacks owning slaves in colonial times when I ran across the article the first time. I went back during the 1619 project dust up and found the changes.
The actual point of the article, on John Casor, is that blacks will owe reparations if and when - -
In one of the earliest freedom suits, Casor argued that he was an indentured servant who had been forced by Anthony Johnson, a free black, to serve past his term; he was freed and went to work for Robert Parker as an indentured servant. Johnson sued Parker for Casor's services. In ordering Casor returned to his master, Johnson, for life, the court both declared Casor a slave and sustained the right of free blacks to own slaves.
And finally:
1640 – The Virginia Governor's Council made John Punch the first legally recognized slave in England's North American colonies.
It says "indentured servants" now, and as far as I can tell (looking at the edit history), it has been that way for years. The other language was recently deleted, the editor citing lack of support in the historical record.
Wikipedia is a useful tool, but it cannot be relied upon, obviously.
"consider Wikipedia, which certainly has its detractors, but generally functions as a useful compendium of accurate information."
Only on topics for which there is no political controversy.
So, nothing?
Well, 5%.
Better yet, it could try something along the lines of Community Notes.
They don't want to do that though since it lets the proles get a word in edgewise. It's not an echo chamber if there are dissonant voices, and they do love hearing their words parroted back to them.
And, of course, they can't hire enough 'moderators' to possibly hold people to their terms of service. At this point, I'd wager that it's mostly AI doing the 'moderation' and of course given it's training material it too will have a slant.
https://twitter.com/AetiusRF/status/1750511773952663748?t=m--DSQupcyil1JNnOvRHtQ&s=19
Waiting for the ultimate clown world moment where the Palestinian ceasefire protests start demanding military action against Texas
At this point I think armed confrontation between Feds and Texans is inevitable. Texans on the border are facing an existential threat.
25 Republican governors just signed a joint letter in support of the Texas Resistance.
https://www.rga.org/republican-governors-ban-together-issue-joint-statement-supporting-texas-constitutional-right-self-defense/
Weird. The media told me it was Trump that was going to cause the Civil War. Apparently it just took Biden.
Biden assures us that he will use F15s and nukes to crush the rebellion.
Just like he did in Afghanistan?
Maybe he will withdraw and leave billions in military equipment for the Texas NG.
I hope that since 2019 Biden or someone on his staff has read Michael Lind's "Hell to Pay " to revise his thinking about miners as computer programmers. Hell, I hope that Reason's top staff have read that book to challenge their thinking about unions and immigration. PS, do you remember ads on city buses "You, too can be a computer programmer or checkout clerk in two weeks?" How did a boring job like computer programming become glamorous?
"Anybody who can go down 3,000 feet in a mine can sure as hell learn to program as well,"
Non sequitur, much, Uncle Joe?
In a story about media bias Robby the Leftist demands we ignore the media bias or at least downplay it. Sorry, but when you betray the public trust in your profession in order to shill propagandapeople have every right to cheer the firings that are (or at least could be) part of the cleaning house necessary to restore that public trust. This situation is the country equivalent to you getting malignant cancer and in an abundance of concern for the cancerous cells and their aims you refuse treatment and scold anyone that sees benefits in chemotherapy or surgery.
'Our story begins with Cillizza observing—accurately—that there's something mean-spirited about rejoicing in another person's economic misfortune. Specifically, the Los Angeles Times recently laid off 20 percent of the newsroom, a reflection of the difficult times for many journalistic outlets.'
How about feeling mean-spirited about vermin?
ps. Cillizza is an ignorant cunt.
Is invading Ukraine Putin's a cunning plan to hijack the AI coal power bandwagon using Stalin's beloved 100 ton per shift Stakhanovite Movement?
https://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2023/09/ukranian-forces-recapture-carbon-from.html
I feel I need to take a moment to congratulate Robby on a lot of his recent articles, and I say that unironically. He’s one of the few writers around here that’s willing to write about and take a stand on issues that Reason has been either absent on, or at best, milquetoast in regards to their criticism. There's been a little too much “OMG Trump”. I can get Trump news anywhere. My local rag has had a minimum of four stories a day on their front page since 2015. Think about that. That's eight years... eight... years.
It’s like what Michael Moynihan recently said about much of the corporate television media such as CNN, MSNBC on Megan Kelley’s show: If you watch these channels, you literally wouldn’t even know that Biden was president.
Fair take. Some of us criticize Robby because we like his work and have high expectations.
Then you should be quite disappointed with this one, because he's weirdly calling out a true statement as false, all in the service of making a bigger point about the mainstream media, while only citing as evidence thereof a single Xitter exchange involving an ex-CNN reporter.
A bit of a damp squib, Robby.
He comes close sometimes, but his biases are all the more disappointing because of it. He has some decent instincts, but is entrenched in a bubble that clouds his perspective and leaves him defending lunacy too often
Conservatives perceive the media as an incredibly hostile enemy, and many on the right are positively giddy at the prospect of journalists facing unemployment.
It's not a "perception." It's a fact.
They are the enemy, and we should be glad to see them destroyed. Like Auron MacIntyre famously says, "You don't hate journalists enough. You think you do, but you don't."
Case in point, which was JUST TODAY:
https://twitter.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1750143256539648185
Or maybe this garbage a week ago:
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1747969792328208675
They ARE the enemy, and we have every right to delight in their "economic misfortune" because what they're doing isn't the result of "biases against nonliberal perspectives that create blind spots". It's the result a 100% narrative-driven editorial policy that has zero compunction with ignoring reality and making things up out of whole cloth to pander to the ultra far left.
That's not "doing important work." That's being water bearers for those who are hellbent on destroying American society.
Sports Illustrated just canned their entire staff, effectively ending the magazine. Good. Screw them. Someone there should have stood up and screamed, "THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T PUT OBESE AND TRANS PEOPLE ON THE SWIMSUIT COVER." Saw a photo today of the LA Times bullpen completely empty. Good. Screw them. They're intellectual cancer.
You're damned right we're celebrating it. It's like watching the Ministry of Truth building burn to the ground. The good and proper response to it is to feed it more gasoline and prevent anyone inside from escaping.
I don't know who Chris Cillizza is, but this is getting a bit surreal.
(Since I'm not on Xitter, I cannot really look at Twits' Tweets directly, but I have seen quite a lot of them as posted by others. Like this run-down in the red-blooded Alt-right media:
https://www.conservativenewsdaily.net/breaking-news/cnn-ex-pat-chris-cillizza-takes-a-virtual-beating-over-claim-biden-never-told-coal-miners-to-learn-to-code/?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=conservnewsd)
Which is where it gets weird. Because according to that source (which, by the way repeatedly falsely claims Cillizza is a "CNN reporter"), Cillizza had initially tweeted:
"Biden said it (and he didn’t even say ‘learn to code’). Like, facts matter.”
Cillizza then clarified, "And, again, no journalist said “learn to code.” And neither did Biden."
A Google search reveals that he also quoted Biden's exact words on January 24, 2024 @ 3:31am (I'm not sure about the order in which these Tweets were twatted out, and I'm not going to join Xitter to find out):
"So, Joe Biden said this in 2019: "Anybody who can go down 3,000 feet in a mine can sure as hell learn to program as well."
Clearly, Cillizza's objection (petty as it may have been), was not that Biden hadn't suggested words "to the effect that" coal miners were certainly capable of learning new skills, but to the specific, misquoted phrase, "learn to code".
In other words, Robby is the one making the "patently false" claim, because there is no evidence that Biden ever said the words, "learn to code" (and certainly not in the way it is used now). Cillizza acknowledged what Biden had actually said from the outset; his only objection was that Biden had never used the words, "learn to code", which is a phrase which has apparently taken on a nasty connotation over the years.
Just out of curiosity, do you understand what you need to learn to do in order to program a computer?
Why do you ask?
Computer programming has almost nothing to do with this article or with my comments in relation to it.
This article was about the media and its "fact-checkers".
I do. I did it for 40 years. My objection isn't based on the distinction between coding and programming (although there is a distinction; coding is a subset of the tasks involved in programming), but the difference leaving out the word "can" makes to the context. Biden said miners CAN learn to program. His critics are claiming he told miners they MUST learn to program, which would be kind of like "let them eat cake" for the modern world.
Yes, this whole thing is like one big Sarc response: "I never said those words", despite "learn to program" and "learn to code" meaning the same thing.
It also tries to lie about the usage of that phrase. It has been used since 2016 at the latest and has always been negative. It was initially journalists and left wingers advocating for policies that eliminate blue collar jobs and snarkily offering coding as the alternative to their productive labor. The right latched onto that and has used the same phrase against journalists crying about losing their jobs as a reminder that we recall their elitism and have no sympathy for them.
"learn to program" and "can learn to program" don't mean the same thing.
It is not even close to "meaning the same thing".
1. The words were literally different. He is accused of saying, "learn to code", and he evidently did not. You can honestly call out the similarity between the words he did use and the words he's been accused of using, but omitting any mention of this, while knowing the difference, is a lie. As "learn to code" is an Alt-right meme with a very specific meaning (which any self-respecting Alt-rightist who was breathing in 2019 would know), you cannot "innocently" apply it to someone who didn't say it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learn_to_Code
2. The meaning of the words he did use are different than the meaning of the words he is accused of using. "Learn to code" is a derisory meme, popularized five years ago when it was first used in relation to laid-off journalists. Biden's words to the miners in December 2019 were in response to the implicit accusation that miners were incapable of learning new skills, in particular, computer programming. Biden may have been wrong about the average miner's ability to learn that kind of new skill, but he was certainly not trying to insult them in the way the "Learn to Code" meme requires.
Know your meme.
“You need to learn to do something else, because we are hell bent on destroying your filthy industry. It won’t help anything, because we can’t make China do the same, but it will make us feel good.”
Sound better?
Idiot.
You have no argument.
Welcome to the party 🙂 ...
Ever since these supposed "fact-checkers" started sprouting I found it disturbingly humorous how they'd run down a whole list of evidence and then make a ruling in complete contrast to all that evidence they themselves had just linked up for you. Their own completely biased opinion on it and proceed to make excuses for all their detail work as to why their biased ruling should trump all the evidence they just handed you. It was the very definition of leftard indoctrination worse than media itself.
Yeah, I can see you never let youself be swayed by facts.