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Harvard

Hell Hath No Fury

Plus: Nuking the Hamptons, upcharging the autists, tearing down the statues, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 1.8.2024 9:30 AM

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Hell hath no fury like a Bill Ackman scorned: For those just tuning in, let me catch you up on the Harvard/antisemitism/plagiarism scandal that just won't end.

Back in December, three elite university presidents—including Harvard President Claudine Gay, University of Pennsylvania President Liz Magill, and MIT President Sally Kornbluth—were trotted before Congress to give testimonies related to their handling of antisemitic speech and pro-Palestine activism on campus. Rep. Elise Stefanik (R–N.Y.) raked them all over the coals, declaring their answers unsatisfactory and insensitive and full of legalese, and Magill soon resigned.

Harvard initially stood by Gay, but then a mostly conservative collection of journalists and activists—as well as some big donors, like hedge fund manager Bill Ackman—publicized her extensive track record of plagiarism. Gay resigned, but not before calling everyone racist. (She is a black woman, and she claims that that's the real reason people tried to take her down.)

Now Business Insider has accused Ackman's wife—Neri Oxman, an entrepreneur and former MIT professor—of plagiarism herself. Oxman, they say, "stole sentences and whole paragraphs from Wikipedia, other scholars and technical documents in her academic writing." (As an aside: Oxman's work is interesting. "Her team at the MIT Media Lab coaxed silkworms to build sculptures," notes the article. Oxman "also made undulating structures out of natural materials like cellulose and chitin, the material found in shrimp cells.")

Now, Ackman has basically sworn revenge: "There has been no due process," wrote Ackman this morning on X. "Neri Oxman was given 90 minutes to respond to a 7,000-word plagiarism allegation before Business Insider published a piece saying she was a plagiarist." For the record, it's good to give sources sufficient time to respond, but that's not quite a due process issue.

"This experience has inspired me to save all news organizations from the trouble of doing plagiarism reviews," he declared, vowing to helpfully review the work of all Business Insider reporters and MIT faculty, after claiming that Insider's source is most likely inside MIT. (Side-by-side reviews for plagiarism are getting easier and faster to do in the era of artificial intelligence.)

Now Ackman's allegiance to his wife is being alternately memed and criticized:

when he says "I love you," but ackman said "would they accuse you of plagiarism, I would burn the institutions to the ground, and salt the earth where they once stood, let there be a thousand dark ages, and you, lordess of my castle laboratory, my dark queen for eternity"

— Mike Solana (@micsolana) January 7, 2024

This all started in early Oct. when Bill Ackman went ballistic and tried to ruin the lives of some 18 year old Harvard students, get them blacklisted over an Israel letter, and got upset university leaders didn't help with this project, so he escalated — v pathetic news cycle.

— Lee Fang (@lhfang) January 7, 2024

https://twitter.com/Itsjoeco/status/1743264256118657306

Bill Ackman is literally trying to claim that you can copy Wikipedia wholesale and claim it as your own because it's "open source"

If you ever had the misconception that billionaires were all brilliant, let his words disabuse you of the notion. https://t.co/Q5PlbvC1ay

— Whey Standard (@Whey_standard) January 8, 2024

On one hand, it's fair to collectively groan Why do we have another goddamn Harvard-related news cycle? On the other, we're in a weird moment for plagiarism and the related subject of intellectual property. If ChatGPT is the death knell for plenty of academic writing, maybe it's replacing something that had already mostly withered and died.

The focus of the Harvard kerfuffle could have been the initial congressional testimony, and the speech double standards present on college campuses. Or it could've been the intellectual bankruptcy of DEI bureaucracy. Instead, it is becoming trench warfare over plagiarism, which seems like the dumbest possible way for this to all go.

Israel pummels Hezbollah: Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari says the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have struck Iran-backed Hezbollah in Lebanon in retaliatory fire, killing at least seven fighters. The IDF claims that Hezbollah struck an Israeli military base on Saturday, most likely due to Israel's killing of a senior Hamas leader inside Lebanon last week.

Though war has been raging between Israel and Hamas since October 7, when Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israel, killing 1,200 civilians—in some cases brutally raping and beheading the victims—many had hoped that other factions in the Middle East, particularly those backed by Iran, would not be drawn into the conflict. With the increased Israel-Hezbollah conflict, as well as Houthi activity snarling global shipping and provoking some U.S. military action, that's not looking likely.


Scenes from New York:

Surfer politics, spotted in Rockaway.

Liz Wolfe

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Israel pummels Hezbollah...

    They're genociding Lebanon now???

    1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

      Once Israel is through with hunting down and killing every Hamas member they can lay their hands upon, Hezbollah is next.

      1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

        Nah. They’ll go for the Islamic Jihad in Gaza first.

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        2. Rob Misek   1 year ago

          We’re being coerced to conflate moral with immoral behaviour.

          Why is woke, cancelling, censorship and groupthink a thing?

          What’s the point, some twisted misconception of altruism?

          No, there’s nothing altruistic about their selfish motives. Once it is “normalized” to coerce people by destroying and threatening them for their opinions and ideas, doing so can be easily controlled with money giving more power and control over everyone to the wealthy.

          Like all the wealthy Jewish Harvard donors who cancelled the president for not supporting Israel enough.

          What position of power couldn’t a Jew hold and be untouchable by threatening anyone for being an antisemite. It’s about power and money.

          Jews in Israel are boldly committing genocide and crimes against humanity in Gaza with the unconditional support and funding from the US while hiding behind insincere claims of antisemitism.

          1. Sevo   1 year ago

            "...Jews in Israel are boldly committing genocide and crimes against humanity in Gaza..."

            You.
            Are.
            Full.
            Of.
            Shit.
            Nazi scumbag.

          2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

            Misek supports Hamas and Hezbollah. Probably ISIS too. He is with the terrorists.

          3. Ajsloss   1 year ago

            Goebbels already posted this in the Brickbat.

          4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Does this mean Misek likes Black women?

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              Just antisemitic ones.

          5. One-Punch_Man   1 year ago

            I think everyone that reads this will lose some iq points because of how dumb it is.

            "Not supporting Israel enough", umm racist it was about not condemn racism but it's only Jews right. Asians should beware too since they aren't a protected class.

            Rob, go be a racist somewhere else

          6. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            Rob Misek, what you've just said was one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

          7. Rob Misek   1 year ago

            Over 22000 Palestinians slaughtered including over 15000 non combatant women and children. We’ve all seen the images and reports.

            Over 2,000,000 Palestinians forcibly killed or displaced from Gaza in accordance with published Israeli plans.

            These facts are irrefutable and clearly meet the UN definitions of genocide and crimes against humanity.

            Crimes Against Humanity

            For the purpose of this Statute, ‘crime against humanity’ means any of the following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack:

            Murder;
            Extermination;
            Enslavement;
            Deportation or forcible transfer of population;
            Imprisonment or other severe deprivation of physical liberty in violation of fundamental rules of international law;
            Torture;
            Rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity;
            Persecution against any identifiable group or collectivity on political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, gender as defined in paragraph 3, or other grounds that are universally recognized as impermissible under international law, in connection with any act referred to in this paragraph or any crime within the jurisdiction of the Court;
            Enforced disappearance of persons;
            The crime of apartheid;
            Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health.

            Genocide

            In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

            Killing members of the group;
            Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
            Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
            Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
            Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

            The Genocide Convention establishes in Article I that the crime of genocide may take place in the context of an armed conflict, international or non-international, but also in the context of a peaceful situation.

            https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              Copypasta that makes the spastic squirrel look good.

              1. Rob Misek   1 year ago (edited)

                Irrefutable evidence of genocide and crimes against humanity.

                1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                  Deliberate lies that you know are lies but you tell them anyway because you're a jew-hater.

                  1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                    You certainly haven’t refuted anything that I’ve said.

                    I’m pleased with the optics.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      We've refuted it many times previously, but like a young-earth creationist on talk.origins back in the day, you keep on repeating the same old shit over and over and over again and again and again.

                      Fuck off, dipshitted Nazi.

                    2. Sevo   1 year ago

                      Nazi shit is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance".
                      He's had his ass handed to him on a silver plater, but turns around, waving arms all over again.
                      Fucking imbecilic shit-pile.

                2. Smith1   1 year ago

                  Calling something "irrefutable" does not make it so. Tell me, do you also accuse Russia of genocide against the Ukrainians due to their missiles hitting civilian areas? If not you are a hypocrite. If you do, then it shows your lack of understanding of war.

                  1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                    Are you advocating for genocide? If you want to accuse other nations of committing genocide, fill your boots.

                    Ukraine has nothing to do with the intentional slaughter of non combatants committed by Israel in Gaza.

            2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

              Geez, almost as bad as what the oppressive Allied powers did to the just-minding-their-own business German people in the 1940s, right?

            3. Sevo   1 year ago

              "...Over 22000 Palestinians slaughtered including over 15000 non combatant women and children. We’ve all seen the images and reports..."

              You.
              Are.
              Full.
              Of.
              Shit.
              Nazi scumbag.

            4. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago (edited)

              If you and all the other Jew-haters and Israel-bashers ever get what you want and Israel gets pushed into the sea, you better hope that you can:

              Take Communion in the Presbyterian Church USA…

              Or kneel and bray like cattle to Mecca 5 times daily…

              Or goose-step in the streets with your next Neo-Nazi parade…

              When you have stumps for legs and need a colostomy bag!

              Israeli Company on the Edge of Finding Diabetes Cure
              https://youtu.be/UEggGS4vHQU?si=OOneSZhhtbogx03X

              Israeli Innovations That Changed YOUR Life
              https://youtu.be/aop6ypfERvY?si=RQLzKM_Amg0zERQY

              Fuck Off, Luddite Nazi!

              1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                Into the sea? No that would be polluting.

                Take away the fascist power you’ve been gifted by the west and used to terrorize and commit apartheid, genocide and crimes against humanity for the last 70 years and let you remain in Palestine.

                Then we’ll see how yo fare when you kill women and children, coward.

                1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

                  Who do you think I am, the entire nation of Israel? Damn, you are delusional!

                  Let's see how you and your fellow Jew-Haters do when you have stumps for legs, macular degeneration of your vision and hearing, internal organ failure, cardiac failure, and malignant tumors all over when they hit your lymph nodes and glands!

                  Fuck Off, Decrepit Nazi!

          8. Smith1   1 year ago

            Get thee to a dictionary (and a history lesson). Your ignorance is astounding and understanding of the word "genocide" is laughable. Perhaps a simple solution here would be for Hamas to propose releasing all the hostages and turning over the murderers from October 7 and agreeing to step down from power. And for all good Palestinians to cease support for Hamas. If that happened, do you think Israel would continue bombing? Israel is targeting Hamas. Hamas choosing to hide among civilians (many of whom willingly support them) is the cause of the excess deaths. Not Israeli "genocide". But I don't know why I am wasting my time. Haters gonna hate anyway.

            1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

              The international court of justice ICJ uses the definition of genocide that I’ve shared here and will get a chance to rule against Israel for committing genocide in a few days.

              Besides South Africa who brought the accusation Israel to the ICJ, a nation all too familiar with genocide and apartheid, many other countries are on board with the accusation.

              Which countries have welcomed South Africa’s ICJ case against Israel?

              The Organization of Islamic Countries (OIC): The 57-member bloc, which includes Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan and Morocco, voiced their support for the case on December 30.

              Malaysia: In a statement released on January 2, the Malaysian Ministry of Foreign Affairs welcomed the South African application. It reiterated a call for an independent Palestinian state “based on the pre-1967 borders, with East Jerusalem as its capital”.

              Turkey: Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson Oncu Keceli posted on X on January 3 welcoming South Africa’s move.

              Jordan: Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi said on January 4 that Amman would back South Africa.

              Bolivia: On Sunday, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Bolivia dubbed South Africa’s move as historic, becoming the first Latin American country to back the ICJ case against Israel.

              Besides countries, many advocacy groups and civil society groups worldwide have also joined South Africa’s call.

    2. Ezra MacVie   1 year ago

      MORE punctuation, please!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. Chumby   1 year ago

    Comedian Jim Gaffigan torches the Golden Globes

    “I can't even believe I'm in the entertainment industry. It's so unlikely. I'm from a small town in Indiana. I'm not a pedophile.”

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Best joke of the night from what I read. It sounded awful.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        And, personally, I would say Gaffigan puts me solidly in the "Closing the door on wokies trying to ingratiate themselves with normies by mocking the woke culture they helped create".

        Gaffigan was, solidly, in the "George W. Bush, Joe Biden, and Anthony Fauci all had good intentions, but Trump... !" camp. The sort of delusional, dishonest, and actually evil-facilitating sort of moron that seems to think Heaven (or other hallowed halls of ultimate moral rectitude) holds a place for people who abort hundreds of babies right up to the point of birth but doesn't accept people who use too many swear words in front of children when they accidentally stub a toe or squish a thumb.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

          I just judge comedians on whether they make me laugh. No ESG score needed.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Hannah Gatsby is obviously an A+.

            1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

              I didn't think she told jokes, just truths. Just watched Sam Tallent's special on YouTube this weekend; had me in stiches.

              1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                Most new woke comedians don't tell jokes. They are stage based struggle sessions.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

                  Or glorified therapist visits where the "comedian" bitches about their neuroses for an hour. Even Chappelle's sets are mostly just pointless bitching about his persecutions, even if the jokes are funny.

                  Chris Rocks' set from Never Scared in 2004 is probably the peak of the American comedy acts. Gabriel Iglesias seems to be the only guy out there these days who, while being a one-trick pony himself, at least has funny stories about his life and has legitimate crossover appeal.

                  1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                    Rogan, Burr, Segura, etc beg to differ.

                    1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

                      Ricky Gervais is hilarious. And he legitimately mocks the wokies, too.

          2. mad.casual   1 year ago

            Right and for the last several years I've heard and seen more about Gaffigan and his ESG score and anti-Trumpiness than I have about his comedy.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

          Gaffigan has always been completely fucking overrated. His whole stupid act centers around making Hot Pocket jokes and being a short-bus version of Will Ferrell.

    2. One-Punch_Man   1 year ago

      Did you see the new Chapelle Netflix special? I not really a Chapelle fan but his stuff was pretty honest. His Jim Carrey/Trans joke has people complaining again.

      1. Chumby   1 year ago

        I saw something brief about folks being transfixed on something Chapelle said.
        I don’t have Netflix.

      2. Liberty_Belle   1 year ago

        Dave is always current on his comedy. He keeps talking about trans stuff, only because ppl keep trying (and failing) to cancel him over it. Every attempt just gives him more to joke about. If you've watched all his specials, which I have, this last one was a giant middle finger to his haters. Dave really is the greatest comedian of our time. A wordsmith par excellence.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    The Supreme Court will decide whether former President Donald Trump can be kept off ballots...

    To preserve democracy.

    1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      Democracy is too important to be left in the hands of voters.

      1. Minadin   1 year ago

        "2024 Is the Year of Elections and That’s a Threat to Democracy"

        https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-01-07/2024-elections-in-taiwan-eu-uk-us-and-elsewhere-threaten-democracy

        Actual headline.

        1. HorseConch   1 year ago

          The best thing to happen to this kind of writing is share, share, share it. The more people see and read the horsehit, the more people understand just how the left truly thinks.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            But too many just nod their heads.

      2. ThomasD   1 year ago

        Of the state
        By the state
        And for the state

    2. JFree   1 year ago

      Because elections shall be centralized and national.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        That's not how 14A works, and you know it.

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          Yes, but then he'd have to be honest with himself.

          1. HorseConch   1 year ago

            He's pretty stupid and pretty dishonest. You two are giving him way too much credit.

            1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

              I'm concerned he had a stroke. He's gotten significantly dumber recently. Yes, even compared to before.

        2. JFree   1 year ago

          This is a PRIMARY election. There is no real 14A issue because the only outcome is who gets their name called on the first round of votes at the Republican National Convention.

          1. Zeb   1 year ago

            That makes it an even more ridiculous interpretation of the 14th since primaries aren't elections for any federal office. The fact that there is no 14th issue is exactly why they are completely wrong when they claim the 14th justifies removing Trump from the primary ballot.

            1. JFree   1 year ago

              There is a CO state law that says no one who is ineligible for office is eligible to be put on the ballot. That was the basis for the challenge to the SecyState initially putting him on the ballot.

              If the SC does its usual Roberts don't rock the boat shtick, they will rule that that state law cannot apply to a general election for federal office because said ineligibility only occurs AFTER an election when Congress rules on it

              BUT, it can apply to listing electors for the general election. Because the office holding element there is a state path of office.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                However, as far as 14A is concerned, that only applies to the electors themselves, not the person running for President. If all of the electors pass muster, then there's nothing the Colorado Supreme Court (or anyone else) can do.

                1. JFree   1 year ago

                  What it potentially means is that IF Trump gets the R nom, then he can't list an elector who is still an election denier.

                  There is no SC impact re this ballot. Because Trump appealed the CO SC decision and because the SC granted cert, the SecyState put Trump on the ballot. Pending an SC decision that supports the CO SC - but that will come too late to take him back off.

                  1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

                    Are you still wearing masks?

                  2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                    Denying an election is now insurrection?

                    JFree, like sarc, you have fallen into the 9th layer of clown hell.

                  3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                    "he can’t list an elector who is still an eLeCtiOn dEnieR."

                    Absolutely insane and fascist as hell.

                  4. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

                    I'm all for no Democrats being eligible as Electors

              2. Sevo   1 year ago

                Poor, poor, JFucked; always the loser.

                1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                  It’s just sad at this point. But every village needs an idiot I suppose……

          2. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Look at JFree contend since it is the government forcing the parties with who they can choose, it is all good. Despite many of these states also applying general election requirements to the party votes. LOL.

            1. Minadin   1 year ago

              Even the heavily left-biased mainstream media was speculating over the weekend that the USSC decision on this matter might be a unanimous 9-0 total loss for Colorado.

              1. JFree   1 year ago (edited)

                There is ZERO impact on Colorado. Trump is on the primary ballot as of now. Colorado was never going to take him off the general election ballot. He was taken off the ballot specifically because this is a primary election and that was a separate creation of a ballot initiative a few years ago. The only thing Colorado wants from the SC is clarification for elector qualifications.

                This challenge was not initiated by the Secy State – or any D’s – here. It was initiated by a DC group of lawyers – and the plaintiffs here were regular R registered voters.

                If you believe that any SC decision is a ‘loss for CO’, then YOU are a moron and a sheep manipulated by pols, party hacks, and corrupted journalists. Their narrative has nothing to do with reality. As usual for this shithole of a website.

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  It was initiated by CREW, a left activist groups. Trump has already been harmed just due to legal fees. Youre such a state loving liberal these days.

                  1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                    There's absolutely nothing liberal about J(ew)Free at this point.

                2. Minadin   1 year ago

                  See? Now that the USSC is involved, even JFree is embarrassed that the ruling came from his state's Supreme Court, and how lopsided of an overturn it's going to be.

                  Putting distance between himself and this debacle like he's Usain Bolt.

                  1. JFree   1 year ago

                    Trump's appeal - which is what was granted cert - is not about overturning the CO ruling.

                    The two issues are:
                    1. did Trump incite insurrection
                    2. is he impaired from holding office

                    The SC ain't gonna touch the first. I'd bet that the SC will only rule that for 14A purposes, a trial through the judiciary with a guilty verdict is not necessary for holding future office. And it clearly is not required in the originalist text.

                    For the second issue, it is possible that SC just kicks the can for a few months. That would be shitty and the good thing about Trump's appeal is that he wants the SC to settle something now.

                    The lawyers opposing Trump are gonna make an originalist argument to the conservative justices.
                    1. Trump is not actually on the ballot in the general election. Electors are. THAT is why the 14A mentions 'electors for Prez and Veep'.
                    2. The 14ASec3 specifically says 'Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability'. Since that can happen in Jan2024, it is post-election and therefore Trump shall be allowed to name a slate of electors for the general election. There is no SC authority to override Congress on that.

                    Understand the implications of that 2nd point. A majority of Congress already impeached and found him guilty on 'inciting to insurrection'. 2/3 will NEVER turn around and 'remove such disability'. The SC has no inclination to ignore the impeachment and they have no authority to substitute their own judgement or override Congress on the specifics of that issue.

                    This can LOOK like a judicial victory - Trump can appear to be on the general election ballot by naming an elector list. But unless Trump voters are into a 2nd insurrection - this time by overthrowing Congress rather than simply interrupting a meaningless count - Trump can't win the election and assume office. It will be difficult for the conservative justices to impose a different - living constitution - process that simply reinforces majoritarian mob rule.

                    1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

                      "A majority of Congress already impeached and found him guilty on ‘inciting to insurrection’. "

                      False. He was impeached and NOT found guilty.

                    2. JFree   1 year ago

                      My statement stands. A majority of the House impeached him and a majority of the Senate found him guilty. He was not removed from office because that specifically requires a 2/3 vote in the Senate - in a different part of the Constitution. The super-majority in 14Asec3 is to remove the disability.

                      Those super-majorities are in the opposite direction - and they both work to secure the Constitution from majoritarian impulses. The 14ASec3 super-majority requires a strong consensus - before they can be sworn into office - that a President-elect not have engaged in an actionable insurrection or has been forgiven for one in the past. Even implicitly - every Prez sworn into office since the 14th has jumped that hurdle. Never has there been any question as to whether they engaged in insurrection, sedition, etc. Never a question as to whether their oath of office is suspect. Likewise, once sworn into office, it requires a strong consensus for Congress to remove the Prez from office.

                      This is a repugnant generation of Americans that feels compelled to obliterate the Constitution on a whim. To impose a tyranny on the other half of Americans. We no longer even pretend in the value of a super-majority or consensus. We no longer elect Prez's who understand in seasons of insurrection or rebellion, there are often critical moments, when a well timed offer of pardon to the insurgents or rebels may restore the tranquillity of the commonwealth; and which, if suffered to pass unimproved, it may never be possible afterwards to recall.

                      Biden failed to take that opportunity to pardon/clemency the Jan6 rioters. Neither Biden nor Trump have ever done a damn thing to appeal outside their base - to create a notion that they might one day pardon their opponent/enemy simply because they are Prez of everyone. Because there is no 'everyone' in the modern American
                      duopoly. Not in those we elect - and not in those of us who vote for them.

                      Unfortunately that also applies to the SC justices. They don't have any power to go beyond the partisan or majoritarian. Nor however have they ever shown any impulse for that. So I suspect this decision will do nothing positive.

          3. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago (edited)

            The fact is that primary elections are just a tool for parties. They’re doing this now for the purpose of using in the general election. In any state where Trump is removed from the ballot, the state party can simply decline to use the primary system and have a caucus instead.

            1. JFree   1 year ago

              As I said above - there is a legitimate question for the state (spec CO - idk about others) re the list of electors. Those would be potential oaths of office for state offices. So any SC ruling would be related to the sorts of rulings where Sec3 was used WITHIN the Southern states during Reconstruction (specifically from 1868 - 1873).

              I cannot imagine that anyone rational would view any other general election impact. If Trump is nominated, he will appear on every ballot because this is a duopoly. It will be up to Congress to determine insurrection and disability for office - which means they will follow their own votes re that second impeachment.

              I wish the primaries were just a tool for the parties. They are more a subsidy imo. The taxpayers pay for it. The state administers it. And in some states, the primary forces voters to register into one of those parties and/or the parties decide all the rules of those elections. I wish more states had the balls to tell parties to fuck off and do caucuses. But unfortunately most voters are also DeRps and sheep so they prefer the lazy lack of citizenship of primaries and 'beauty contests'.

      2. Zeb   1 year ago

        No. It's because the 14th is part of the federal constitution. Do you really think every state should be able to interpret it however suits them at the moment?

        1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

          And with no process or feedback. Any Secretary of State can just exercise their authority in defiance of voters in the state to remove all candidates except the one they like? It's ludicrous.

    3. Minadin   1 year ago

      https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1743519693455987110

  4. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Congress returns this week and is supposed to pass some funding bills, as another shutdown deadline looms on January 19.

    Congress is nothing but a tease.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      But, please god, not a strip tease.

      1. Stuck in California   1 year ago

        I asked congress to pass the bill and they just said the didn't want to.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    The National Park Service apparently has nothing better to do with its time than tear down statues of old white men.

    Penn gave us Filthadepthsia. Tear him down.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Wait till they see what the name of the state is. Or where Biden had China pay for his name to be on a department for a university.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

        Still waiting for head to explode when liberals find out what Oklahoma means.

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

          Isnt that the place where the wind comes sweepin down the plains?

        2. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

          They will have to change their name to Oklahomo on the next gay designated month.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Please enjoy the absolute worst segment on the Claudine Gay scandal, involving the most Hilaria Baldwin–esque overpronunciation of the word Latino you could possibly imagine.

    LET HER FINISH.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

      Any mention of tacos?

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

        That's ridiculooooooo

        1. Kungpowderfinger   1 year ago

          Somewhere there is someone who has to listen to that woman’s shit every fucking day

    2. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

      Would have been worse if she said Latiñox

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Isn't that the new drug that cures white people of anti-Mexican racism?

  7. Chumby   1 year ago

    German Farmers Preparing Mass Protest

    In Berlin, thousands of farmers brought several thousand tons of manure to the city center. As daylight approaches, they plan to dump everything onto the square.

    Dutch farmers planning to participate. If they are going Dutch, perhaps they will bring their own manure. French and Belgian farmers planning similar solidarity activities.

    - Intel Slava Z

    Perhaps part of a smear campaign.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Did Toronto officers bring them hot coffee like the Palestinian protestors?

      1. Chumby   1 year ago

        Police arrest farmers, not bring them coffee. Should the protest take place in a public space, some here would support police shooting unarmed farmers.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Assault fertilizer brought down a building.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Paging Timothy McVeigh...

        2. Ajsloss   1 year ago

          Unarmed farmers? I have it on pretty good authority that farmers and even their mums is packin'.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JurvPFBgEHs

    2. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      Dumping shit is a good start, but cutting off the urban food supply will get EVERYONE's attention.

      1. HorseConch   1 year ago

        Those farmers will make it longer without money than the urban crowd will without food.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Also people who produce energy, mine and refine raw materials, work in factories, and provide transportation of all that stuff. But urbanists are the Most Important People. Cuz software or something. Also finance.

          Now what major sectors keep crashing the world economy?

          1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

            But urbanists are the Most Important People. Cuz software or something. Also finance.

            Urbanites vote democrat. This is what makes them the Most Important People. Us ruralites are just too damn self-sufficient and do not require gov't "services". We are resented for this.

            1. Liberty_Belle   1 year ago

              Are you sure about that ?

              https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                Well, there is a counterpoint.

                https://www.thecentersquare.com/opinion/article_44669866-adb3-11ee-96a1-3f9bfb526300.html

                Is it a good reason to transfer money to states in financial trouble long before anyone heard of COVID-19? Why should American taxpayers be bailing out poorly run states like Illinois, for example, and cities run and managed by Democrats. Why should the government be bailing out states that have high taxes that people can just write off their federal returns? Isn't that federal subsidization?

                When Congress passed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) in 2017, it put a cap of $10,000 on state and local tax deductions (SALT). Without it, rich people in blue states that had bloated, wasteful state and local taxes were able to deduct those ludicrously huge tax numbers from their federal taxes. And this resulted in those states sending far less tax money to the federal government.

                It’s true that the average taxpayer in blue states pays a higher per capita income tax than the average taxpayer in red states. That’s because those states, particularly Connecticut, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and California, have more rich people living there. Don’t progressives live by their own gospel: "we must spread the wealth around and everyone pays their fair share?"

                Red states do receive 35.75% on average of their budgets from the federal government. And blue states receive only 30.80%. But the blue states get a lower percentage because their total budgets are far larger due to all the bloat and waste of tax dollars. The 10 states in the best fiscal condition are almost all red states. Tennessee has never been in the red. The 10 states in the worst financial condition are almost all blue. Illinois had five times as much debt as it did assets last fiscal year.

                Data shows that last year, federal spending in Minnesota only amounted to 48 cents for every tax dollar in the state. Mississippi received more than three dollars for every tax dollar paid by its taxpayers. The left tries to convince people all red states are like Mississippi. But most states, red and blue, are much closer to the financial middle. The states that are within a few cents of receiving a dollar for a dollar include the Dakotas, North Carolina, Nevada, Wisconsin, Missouri, Kansas, Utah, Maryland, and Florida. Meanwhile, California and Texas are approximately equal with each other.

                The characterization of red states as an economic drain on the country requires quite a bit of hyperbole. It is woefully unfair for taxpayers living in sensible states without bloated taxes, and didn't get huge deductions to be forced to subsidize expensive government projects elsewhere. The average millionaire living in New York or California deducted more than $450,000 worth of state and local taxes; the average millionaire in Texas deducted only $50,000 in local taxes.

                Progressives designed the federal income tax to burden high-income earners and support policies to make the federal income tax weighted toward the wealthy. It is typical for states to receive more in federal funds than they collect in federal taxes. This is an anomaly made possible by rampant federal deficit spending. Statistical differences in federal income taxation and welfare policy is not a bailout. Pumping federal cash into spendthrift states to rescue them from underwater pensions and backlogged debt service is. Progressives will rob Peter to pay Paul until Peter runs out of cash.

              2. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

                Yeah, I'm sure. Read the Methodology in the MoneyGeek "study". It's federal only and does not include any state bennies shelled out to the government dependents

                I was thinking about how much government assistance I get vs the taxes I pay to the Feds and Idaho. I live on a maintained county dirt road. This road connects to a state highway. I provide my own water, sewer, power, garbage removal, internet, etc. Police/fire/EMT is 45 minutes minimum.

                I'm not getting much compared to my financial contribution.

      2. mad.casual   1 year ago

        And, as I've noted before, now that we're outside The Netherlands, that's what we're actually talking about rather than just cutting off the flow of nitrogen to not-so-metaphorical Dutch *organic* tulip farmers.

    3. Ajsloss   1 year ago

      The Dutch should cover their manure with a blanket, then stick people's heads under the blanket.

    4. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

      Intel Slava Z

      https://telegram.im/@intelslava?lang=en

      Intel slava is a Russian News aggregator who covers Conflicts/Geopolitics and urgent news from around the world. Funded by Putin, Russian ministry of defence, FSB, GRU and SVR

      1. Chumby   1 year ago

        Yup. They don’t have funding ties to the western world nor are subject to western government encouragement to edit or omit stories. A problem that has been discussed in the comments many times and recently highlighted by reported suppression of a Vanity Fair story.

        There are other stories on this from other news outlets reporting the same.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          So you trust media that is directly funded by Putin and the FSB (nee KGB), over Western-based media?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            If they're reporting the same things as Western-based media (see Twitter & Reuters below), then what's your beef, Jeffy?

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              I'll remember this next time I post a Salon article.

              1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                That shouldn’t take long…….

              2. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

                When it's pure narrative, it will be attacked. What's the narrative angle here? Are they inventing the fact that German farmers are protesting? These are just factual assertions. I didn't see, in the comment posted, even any speculation about the issues underlying the protest, which could clearly be subject to interpretation. Just the fact that there is a protest, which is hard information that you can easily verify or disprove.

                It's vastly different than some rag saying "Anonymous sources inside the DOJ say they have absolute proof" of this or that, which is what you see with a lot of questionable narrative builders. That's when you attack the source on the basis of their trustworthiness.

                1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                  Fatfuck will use this to for a false equivalency later when he posts straight unsupported propaganda. It’s the sort of disingenuous shit he does.

                2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

                  When it’s pure narrative, it will be attacked.

                  Which that Salon article chemfat posted was, by a Boomer leftist shitheap.

                  And even when people actually go on record, as opposed to the "sources say" boilerplate when they're just pulling shit out of their ass, they're just as likely to lie their ass off as tell the truth, like what James Clapper did when he claimed the government wasn't spying on Americans.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                    No I get it. Mainstream sources that say things you don't like are just full of lies, and part of the establishment, and shouldn't be trusted.

                    Independent sources that have low standards and are just repeating rumors, if they say things that you like, they should be believed because they are the 'little guys' standing up to power. Got it.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago (edited)

                      Oh yes, Jeffy, trust the self-appointed and self-anointed experts of journalism as only they know the secrets of journalisming.

                      /radical individualist, my ass.

                    2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                      It's not their degrees or credentials. It's their track record and approach to journalistic standards.

                      It's about using your brain and your critical thinking skills, and not choosing news sites just because they agree with your ideology.

                      I don't rely on Breitbart for news because they have crap standards. Guess what, so does Daily Kos. I don't read them for news either.

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      Never said a damn word about degrees or credentials.

                    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

                      You're the one who posted that shit from Karem in Salon, fat boy, don't whine because your True and Honest News Sources get slagged.

                      This is what makes your BOAF SYDEZ nonsense so disingenuous.

          2. HorseConch   1 year ago

            It may not meet your line of consensus group-think. Personally, I trust anyone that reports facts that are sourced and can be verified. Try that with just about anything coming out of NYT, WaPo, NBC, CBS, or CNN. Plenty of horseshit coming from Fox as well. The news either ain't what it used to be, or now we have more access to sources to prove its bullshit when it was just believed in the past.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              The news sites which most consistently reports facts backed by evidence, are the ones that you all continually dismiss and deride as "the mainstream media". The "alternative media", on the other hand, reports facts backed by the ideology that the readers demand.

              1. HorseConch   1 year ago

                You mean the ones that use one another for "sources"?

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago (edited)

                  See, there you go. No one said that the mainstream news sources were perfect. But they do a much better job at actually *reporting news* than fucking Federalist or Revolver News.

                  This reminds me of the 2020 election when JoJo made one tweet about BLM that got everyone upset, and a number of people said “THAT’S IT I’M FED UP I’M VOTING FOR TRUMP”. So these people who claimed to be libertarian, would refuse to support a candidate who is 90+% right on the issues but did something that made them mad, and instead support Trump, who is only accidentally libertarian on good days AT BEST, and disagrees with libertarians on quite a number of significant issues such as government spending? I concluded that these people were never interested in “the issues” in the first place, they wanted a candidate who made them feel good about themselves, and Trump does that but JoJo did not.

                  It is the same thing here. I suspect you want a news source that validates you and makes you feel good about yourself, even if what they report isn’t as reliable as Reuters.

              2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                You're "facts backed by evidence media" has been wrong (occasionally deliberately) about virtually every story in the last five years. Covid came from a farmer's market, mRNA injections stop transmission, etc...

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  They even give themselves awards for being wrong. But they support the right narrative.

                  In jeff's world narrative > truth.

              3. DesigNate   1 year ago

                Hahaha

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  Which is a more unbiased news source - Glenn Greenwald, or Reuters?

                  1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                    Glenn Greenwald by a factor of a thousand and I know that you know it.

          3. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

            Hey, Jeffy.

            The 1980's called.

            They want their foreign policy back.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              Putin is still an authoritarian dictator even if it's not the 1980's anymore.

          4. Chumby   1 year ago

            When it comes to reporting on the west, western based media is compromised. It is difficult to get honest reporting regarding Germany from say DW News. They occasionally do it, such as their documentary on the VW diesel emissions scandal, but it is rare in my experience. Quicker to get the info from a source that doesn’t have a leash on the truth and has access to the information. Regarding this story, I corroborated it with two other news outlets before posting here. I didn’t check whether Salon reported on it.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              a source that doesn’t have a leash on the truth

              Just to be clear - a news source that you regard as not having "a leash on the truth" is one that is directly funded by Putin and the Russian government.

              No wonder you believe that Ukraine has been committing genocide in the Donbass.

              1. Chumby   1 year ago

                Just to be clear, you once again failed reading comprehension or are intentionally lying again.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  So when you wrote

                  Quicker to get the info from a source that doesn’t have a leash on the truth and has access to the information.

                  you did not have Intel Slava Z in mind as one of these sources?

                  So you do regard Intel Slava Z as being "leashed" when it comes to the truth?

                  1. Zeb   1 year ago

                    I expect they aren't leashed when it comes to telling the truth about things that would embarrass western governments and elites.

                  2. Chumby   1 year ago

                    You are numb. Intel Slava Z and other news sources posted something.

                    The context, which is where you failed reading comprehension but feel free to gish gallop to protect your ego and pontificate on this if you choose, is regarding events in the west. Slava Z has access to the goings on and isn’t leashed to report on them.

                    A “filter” is always used to evaluate news reporting and certainly more so on them regarding their domestic reporting.

              2. Zeb   1 year ago

                The best propaganda is true. I wouldn't put it past the Putin funded outfit to lie about the west if it suits them. But Putin isn't stupid and reporting true but inconvenient information that isn't well reported by the western press is a much more effective approach. I have no idea how reliable this particular org is, but it is worth at least seeing what they are saying and looking into to what extent it is true or not.

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  It is weird watching Jeff attack Putin propaganda as he demands the only sources allowed to be used in the comments is leftist/corporate media propaganda. Propaganda isn't his issue, it is the choice of who originates the propaganda.

              3. DesigNate   1 year ago

                Wait, do you think Western media speaks truth to power still?

                That would explain a lot.

          5. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

            Hey asshole, you can do a search for 'Berlin, thousands of farmers' and pick whatever source you please from about 22,100,000 results

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              Jeffy will then whine that Salon isn't among the choices.

      2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        So in Berlin, thousands of farmers didn't bring manure to the city center, because Russian news source?

        Jeff won't let you post rUsSiaN pRoPaGaNdA about farmers hauling manure, but don't you dare complain when he uses Jacobin, Salon, the Daily Kos, MSDNC or CNN to show that anyone who opposes the Democrats is the devil..

      3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Does this satisfy you more, Jeffy?

        https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/german-farmers-block-roads-highway-ramps-protest-subsidy-cuts-2024-01-08/

        German farmers blocked roads with tractors on Monday, kicking off a week of protests against plans to phase out agricultural subsidies with nationwide action that ministers have warned could be co-opted by the far-right.

        Convoys of tractors and trucks, some adorned with protest banners reading "No beer without farmers" and posters from the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, gathered on German roads in sub-zero pre-dawn temperatures. In Berlin, a line of dozens of tractors blocked the main avenue leading to the Brandenburg Gate.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          With video:

          https://twitter.com/mishika_singh/status/1743683720585019867

          #Watch : Farmers in Germany are preparing for a big protest due to increasing diesel fuel and taxes.

          Following on from mass Dutch farmer protests German farmers are revolting against their Government.

          1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

            Didn't happen because Slava Z reported it happened.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          Neither of your sources mention anything about German farmers dumping manure in the center of Berlin, as was claimed by Chumby's source.

          1. Chumby   1 year ago

            Slava Z indicated a plan to do so, not that they had. A few weeks ago, this had occurred in Berlin. French farmers have reported doing that in the past as a means of protest. Not sure what Salon has to say.

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              I'm sure something about how Dark Brandon saved the German economy through the destruction of a natural gas pipeline and the farmers should listen to the cultural consensus of what Dark Brandon says.

          2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            as was claimed by Chumby’s source.

            No it didn't: "As daylight approaches, they plan to dump everything onto the square."

            You just lie and lie and lie and lie, and then lie some more. What vermin you are.

      4. Minadin   1 year ago

        What is a News Aggregator, Jeff?

    5. Jerry B.   1 year ago

      No shit?

      1. Ersatz   1 year ago

        🙂

    6. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago (edited)

      This is actually quite notable insomuch as these have been going on for months in some cases, and the US media have largely either done a complete blackout on reporting it, or discussed it in the most conspiratorial tones possible when they do. There’s been some pieces in European news sites, but nowhere near the saturation of coverage you’d see for left-wing protests. The western establishment clearly doesn’t want these protests against their WEF-aligned enviro-cultists to get any eyeballs over here.

      Contrast this to coverage of the hijab protests in Iran, an obvious color revolution attempt that ultimately went nowhere and was quickly dropped, mainly because Iran is a lot more effective at locking down their populace than places like Egypt, Syria, and Libya were during the “Arab Spring.”

    7. Eeyore   1 year ago

      Let's skip the communism and skip straight to the starving people to death.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        To be fair, the enviro-cult is just a variant of communism.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Watermelons.

          1. Eeyore   1 year ago

            Perfect description.

            1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

              I love shooting watermelons.

              1. Chumby   1 year ago

                Warlock 45?

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          But some of the eco-freaks do deliberately hate all humans more than the commies ever did.

        3. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

          https://twitter.com/RadioGenoa/status/1743285975004971226

          Environmentalist party in Germany.

          Quite a Trans formation.

          1. Eeyore   1 year ago

            If this was the 80s I would assume that was a sketch comedy troup.

    8. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Spiked even has their own article on it now.

      https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/01/08/germanys-farmers-are-fighting-back-against-green-tyranny/

      German farmers have begun a week of nationwide demonstrations, blocking roads with tractors in protest against government plans to phase out agricultural subsidies. As Joachim Rukwied, president of the German Farmers’ Association (DBV), put it last month, ‘We will be present everywhere in a way the country has never seen before’. And the farmers are not alone. Lorry drivers, hauliers and tradespeople have also joined in the protests.

      The swift and organised response of the farmers has already frightened the government. On 4 January, it tried to backtrack by announcing that subsidies for new farm vehicles would remain, and that the tax breaks on diesel would be phased out gradually over the course of the next few years, rather than suddenly this year. But these moves have not assuaged farmers’ anger. They insist that the ‘future viability of our industry’ is at stake. And so, as Rukwied put it last week, farmers ‘remain committed’ to the ‘week of action’.

      Thanks to the government’s embrace of the green agenda, it is incapable of addressing farmers’ concerns. Over and over again, it pursues Net Zero objectives that are directly at odds with the interests of farmers. And just to rub salt into farmers’ wounds, Germany’s agriculture minister, Cem Özdemir, is a militant vegetarian. ‘If we all eat less meat together, we can all do our bit for the planet’, he told a TV talkshow last year. No wonder farmers have lost all trust in the government.

      Instead of addressing problems afflicting the agricultural sector, the government, backed by the green-leaning media, has tried to discredit the protesting farmers. It is regularly claimed that the strikes are being exploited by populists and the right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD).

      Still, the government’s attempts to smear farmers as right-wing insurgents ring hollow. For a start, many do not actually support the AfD, as is so often claimed. In rural Bavaria, which is home to many of the protesters, 52 per cent of farmers voted for the conservative Christian Social Union (the sister party to the centre-right CDU) in the most recent elections, and 37 per cent voted for the populist Free Voters, which is led by a former farmer.

      The German government’s green agenda has escaped scrutiny for far too long. Thanks to the farmers’ protests, the madness of Net Zero can no longer be ignored.

  8. JesseAz   1 year ago

    Jeff's favorite censorship corporation turns out to have the same bias as its founder, down ranking articles that disagree with his views. Regularly marks down any immigration article that describes the costs and problems.

    https://foundationforfreedomonline.com/newsguard-founder-gordon-crovitz-open-borders/?swcfpc=1

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Newsguard only wants you to hear the truth, Jesse. Sure it shifts and aligns with whatever the Democrat's narratives are but that's only because they're so honest too.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Jeffy really just needs to come out of the closet already. We all know he's a Democrat pretending to be a libertarian.

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          There are no libertarians. Someone is either a Trump supporter or a leftist. That's it.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            So it's with you or against you, eh, Sarc?

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              I'm not the one who screams leftist at anyone who doesn't pass the Trumpian purity test.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                No, but anyone who might believe Trump is being wronged or getting a raw deal from the Dems, you claim they're a part of the Trump Cult. Who has the actual purity test, Sarc?

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                  Anyone who doesn’t think Saint Babbitt was murdered in cold blood is a leftist.
                  Anyone who doesn’t think the J6 rioters are innocent because the summer riots were worse is a leftist.
                  Anyone who doesn’t think the election was stolen is a leftist.
                  Anyone who doesn’t think Trump is innocent of everything is a leftist.
                  Anyone who doesn’t vote for Republicans is a leftist.
                  I could do this all day.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                    Yep, it's the "with you or against you" mentality there, Sarco.

                    Anyone who doesn’t think Saint Babbitt was murdered in cold blood is a leftist.

                    Not everyone who has an issue with her killing supported the J6 riot/protest. A fair number have an issue after seeing the video as to how the killing was done. It's rather amazing to see someone like yourself Sarc, who wears ACAB on his sleeve, suddenly support the Capitol Police on this killing.

                    Anyone who doesn’t think the J6 rioters are innocent because the summer riots were worse is a leftist.

                    Says who? It's well known that a large number of Democrats (from AOC to Pelosi) called J6 worse than 9/11 even though the property damage was far less than that of the BLM riots over the summer (not to mention the CAZ takeover crappola). This does not excuse anyone who damaged property that day.

                    Anyone who doesn’t think the election was stolen is a leftist.

                    Where the fuck do you even get this idea from? No one called them leftists, they usually get called "statists" or part of the establishment. However, if evidence is provided that something was off with the election in an area, people like yourself suddenly plop their heads deep in the sand.

                    Anyone who doesn’t think Trump is innocent of everything is a leftist.

                    Oh, major fucking horseshit, Sarc. Somehow you've managed to miss where a number of commenters here either never voted for Trump or voted once for Trump (to keep Biden out). It's not that they think he's innocent of everything, but that he's getting railroaded through the court system via lawfare. Something that, given your commenting history, you should normally be royally pissed about.

                    Anyone who doesn’t vote for Republicans is a leftist.

                    Major fucking horseshit.

                    You really do need to pull your head out of whatever deep orifice you've stuffed it in and smell the shit you've been shoveling.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Just repeating what I see here every day. If you don't like it, take it up with the people who scream "Leftist!" at anyone who doesn't pass the test.

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      I can recall exactly zero times you've gone off on someone for promoting that narrative, and I've lost count of the times you've gone off on someone for pointing it out.
                      Get some principles. I think I saw some at Goodwill the other day.

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      I see you whined about this rather than addressing anything I discussed. And then you have the nerve to talk about someone else's principles?

                    4. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      Sarc's always the victim, ITL. Even when he's trolling and moving goalposts it's everyone else's fault.

                    5. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Not everyone who has an issue with her killing supported the J6 riot/protest.

                      Anyone who doesn't is a leftist. That's been made abundantly clear.

                      Says who?

                      Says all the people who immediately bring up the summer riots in reference to anything J6. Why do that except to say the J6 people are innocent because the summer rioters weren't sufficiently punished?

                      It’s not that they think he’s innocent of everything, but that he’s getting railroaded through the court system via lawfare.

                      What's the difference? If all the prosecutions are politically motivated, then he must be innocent on all charges.

                      Major fucking horseshit.

                      Is that why "Democrat" is the worst insult in the world as far as the commentariat is concerned?

                    6. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      Sarc,

                      I regret that I have but one finger to give for you right now, the longest on my hand.

                      You never learn, you're unwilling to learn, you claim to want discussion but merely throw manure around.

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  It is possible to believe that Trump is being treated poorly by the legal system, but also to believe that Trump did in fact do something that was wrong. Yet it is rare to find this person. Instead, the people who complain that Trump is being treated poorly, ALSO tend to defend Trump's actions. THAT is what makes the defense a part of the "Trump Cult".

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    It is possible to believe that Trump is being treated poorly by the legal system, but also to believe that Trump did in fact do something that was wrong.

                    No, that's not possible. There are only two choices. Defend Trump, or leftist. That's it.

                    1. Ersatz   1 year ago

                      It is possible to believe that Trump is being treated poorly by the legal system, but also to believe that Trump did in fact do something that was wrong. .... that was also pursued as fanatically when Dems did the same wrong things?

                      I think this is the problem people have with the current reality and also your take on the current reality.

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      was also pursued as fanatically when Dems did the same wrong things?

                      That's like saying you're innocent for speeding while going thirty over the limit because someone else didn't get pulled over.

                    3. Ersatz   1 year ago (edited)

                      no, its not

                      its about unjust application of the legal system
                      ... to attack political enemies

                    4. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Pretty sure "They did it first!" isn't a valid legal defense.

                    5. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      I do agree that some of the prosecution of Trump is purely political.
                      However I also don't subscribe to the idea that the election was stolen, that actions he took to try to change the results were purely innocent, or that he can keep classified documents after being told to give them back.

                    6. DesigNate   1 year ago

                      “That’s like saying you’re innocent for speeding while going thirty over the limit because someone else didn’t get pulled over.”

                      Nobody is using that as a reason for his “innocence”.

                      “Pretty sure “They did it first!” isn’t a valid legal defense.”

                      Nobody is saying it’s a legal defense. They’re saying unequal application of the law is bullshit (and something libertarians should have a problem with).

                    7. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      They’re saying unequal application of the law is bullshit (and something libertarians should have a problem with).

                      How is it any different than a child who gets caught with his hands in the cookie jar claiming it's ok because his brother didn't get punished?

        2. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

          he's most likely a glowie in fact

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

      Thank you for succinctly illustrating what I was describing yesterday, which is, substituting ideology for facts when making decisions.

      So, it turns out right-wing sites like The Federalist and Revolver News are rated very low by NewsGuard. The person interested in facts would try to find a fact-based reason for these low ratings. But not Jesse. His reason is ideology based: "because those sites oppose open borders and the founder of NewsGuard is an open borders advocate!" While it is true that the founder does appear to be an "open borders" advocate, and while it is true that those sites that are low rated tend to oppose "open borders", there is ZERO EVIDENCE that there is some direct connection between the founder's personal views on this one issue and those sites' editorial policies on that issue.

      But for people like Jesse, they don't need facts or evidence! All they need is a narrative and an ideology, particularly one that is self-reinforcing. It starts with a kernel of truth: "Conservative ideas are censored online!" That has some truth to it, in some specific cases. But then, that kernel is expanded into an overwhelming ideology that attempts to explain lots of things that aren't supported by evidence. So lots and lots of instances of *some* conservative ideas being demoted or downgraded or ranked poorly, as in this case, is explained as censorship of conservatives by "powerful elites". No facts or evidence are needed to support this claim in any specific case - because it happened once, that means, it explains everything! That's the conspiratorial ideology at work.

      One could test this hypothesis in a number of different ways:

      Is there any evidence that directly links the NewsGuard founder's personal views on "open borders" with the ranking decisions? Have any of the NewsGuard raters claimed this is the case? Are there internal memos or emails which show evidence of this?

      But that information may be hard to get. So one might test this hypothesis indirectly, such as with: how do other sites which also oppose "open borders" rank with NewsGuard? It stands to reason that if the founder's personal views on "open borders" are a direct influence on the NewsGuard ratings, then *all* of these sites which oppose "open borders" would be ranked low. Is this the case?

      Since NewsGuard is a paid subscription I don't have access to it, but I suspect that there are plenty of sites opposing "open borders" that are ranked much higher than Federalist and Revolver News, casting doubt on this hypothesis that the founder's personal views on "open borders" are directly influencing the NewsGuard ratings.

      There is a much more plausible explanation for why Federalist and Revolver News get low ratings: because in terms of *news*, they are shit sites. The Federalist is 100% opinion, so of course they are not reliable for *news*. And Revolver "News" is conspiratorial garbage. That is why they are rated low. Not because they oppose "open borders". Not because of the founder's views. Not because of online censorship. Because those sites have low journalistic standards and it shows.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        The Federalist is 100% opinion, so of course they are not reliable for *news*.

        Is there a difference between news and opinion anymore? Seems to me that anyone who reports on a police shooting without lamenting about Saint Babbitt is a leftist, anyone who reports on people in jail without crying about the J6 rioters is a leftist, anyone who talks about electoral politics without screaming about "The Steal" is a leftist...

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          Is there a difference between news and opinion anymore?

          Not to the people who put ideology over facts and reason.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            That would be you, Jeffy. Nice try at projection.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              So, can you provide facts and evidence to support Jesse's article's claim above that the NewsGuard founder's views on "open borders" have a direct influence on their site ratings?

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                can you provide facts and evidence to support Jesse’s article’s claim

                He did. He called you a leftist. That's all the facts and evidence anyone needs.

                1. HorseConch   1 year ago

                  Are you two done tugging eachother yet?

                  1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                    They aren't done until the concert bathroom meetup.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      You and Elmer should get together and act out your fantasies.

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      Even in this, Sarc goes for "boaf sidez".

                    3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      Sarc's the "Lucky Pierre" of Reason trolls.

                    4. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                      Your homoerotic accusations say more about you than me.

                    5. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      Hey, asshole, I'm not the one who told anyone this time to go get a room. But now that you mention it, between you and Jeffy...

                    6. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      When Jesse and Elmer make continual accusations of homosexual behavior, I figure they're saying more about themselves than those they accuse. When I point it out I'm the bad guy because they're on your team.

                    7. Chumby   1 year ago

                      Sarc puts his hand up on Jeff’s hip,
                      And then Jeff dips, Sarc dips, Jeff dips.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Really, all that much verbiage to say so little, Jeffy. Let me sum up Newsguard better for you.

        https://www.allsides.com/blog/media-research-center-finds-newsguard-ratings-more-favorable-left-wing-outlets

        After conducting research using AllSides Media Bias Ratings™, Media Research Center (Right) has said NewsGuard's media credibility ratings are biased toward left-leaning news sites, as it gives left-wing outlets better trust ratings on average than right sources.

        According to MRC’s research, NewsGuard, the browser extension that provides trust ratings for more than 7,000 news and information websites, rates left-wing outlets 27 points higher on average for trust than news organizations on the right.

        Left outlets saw an average rating of 93% and right outlets received 66%.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          Sure, I accept that empirical evidence that left-leaning sites are rated higher than right-leaning sites.

          But, that is different than the specific claim that Jesse raised above.

          Furthermore, even considering this empirical evidence, what is a likely explanation for this evidence?

          Is it, "NewsGuard is politically biased against conservatives"?
          Or is it, "Left-leaning sites tend to have higher journalistic standards than right-leaning sites"?

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Right-leaning sites have one and only one standard: promote Trump.

            Everything else is leftist.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              Well yes and no. To be fair, their business model is to deliver the "news" that their readers want to read. And their readers want to read "news" that reinforces their preconceived biases. They want to be told that "open borders" is wrong, and those who oppose them have bad-faith motives. Because that places the reader as the hero of the narrative.

              It's also interesting to note that in most of these cases, the people who oppose the conservatives and their ideas, are either ridiculous caricatures, or shadowy collectives. Hardly ever is it a real person with real arguments to be refuted. So the people who oppose Trump and conservatives, they are either "the Left", or "WEF globalists", or "the deep state". No specific person is ever mentioned, except perhaps as a ridiculous caricature of Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton. The reason is because one can attribute to this shadowy collective whatever evil motive one desires without consequence, because it can't be checked or debunked.

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                One conspiracy theory turned out to be true. That means they're all true.

                1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                  I can list twenty-seven off the top of my head. If I give them to you now, will you stop lying for a day?

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    List off the ones that didn't pan out. Oh yeah, you can't because nobody remembers that shit. But you for sure remember any that did, and use that to claim the ones in vogue are true.

                  2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                    No, Sarc probably will not stop lying for a day. If things hold up, he'll owe me $20 eventually. Let's see if he can stick to it.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      You're saying there's evidence?

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      How about you owe me that $20 if I accept the result whether he's guilty or innocent.

          2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

            Well, given that they focus on "misinformation" tracking and have a partnership with the American Federation of Teachers "so that its service can reach millions of teachers, students, and public library patrons", I would tend to assume they want to be seen as being in line with their customers' biases.

            Meanwhile, "NewsGuard has been criticized by Breitbart News as "the establishment media's latest effort to blacklist alternative media sites."

            So what I see are dueling rankings pointing fingers at each other, at least partly in service to the expected narrative of their customers.

  9. JesseAz   1 year ago

    Mega study reviewing academic studies showing criminal justice racial bias shows there is no measurable racial bias in sentencing. Uses academics own data.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/mega-study-finds-that-minorities-dont-receive-harsher-criminal-punishments-but-that-academics-said-so-anyway

    1. Witch-Burning Nazi   1 year ago

      Why is it that, more and more, I'm getting the impression academics are some of the worst people ever?

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        The race between them and journalists for who you dont hate enough is pretty intense.

        1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

          On the other hand, congress is happy they have moved 'up' to the third most hated group.

        2. Ersatz   1 year ago (edited)

          is shouldnt be even close at this point… journo-lists are easily venereal orc puss

          mind you... academics in the social 'sciences' are doing their best to catch up

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            Hey, let's not leave the Humanities out of this.

      2. Moonrocks   1 year ago (edited)

        That’s the thing, they aren’t the worst people, they're equally as bad as all the other apparatchiks that are infiltrating every one of our institutions and are successfully rotting away their credibility.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 had an accident while up in the air, and part of the plane flew off.

    Miami aliens.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Gay resigned, but not before calling everyone racist. (She is a black woman, and she claims that that's the real reason people tried to take her down.)

    Difficult to believe this is a person who needed to cheat to get anywhere.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      The door didn't have a ticket.

    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      "She is a black woman"

      She's a strong, independent plagiarist who don't need no man.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Watch out if she gets on your flight.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Now Business Insider has accused Ackman's wife—Neri Oxman, an entrepreneur and former MIT professor—of plagiarism herself.

    Will the left defend her? Will the right stick to its current distaste of academic plagiarism? These endless hypocrisy tests are hilarious.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      This oerates on the faulty assumption that business insider it's a credible organization

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Oh, this is about to get really interesting. Bill Ackman is really, really pissed. I think world wars have been started over matters as seemingly trivial.

      https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1744367490728067308

      I will pursue these societally important issues including problems with how our media operates, the ideological take over of our education system, discrimination in all forms, and free speech to the end of the earth. It is the most important battle I have ever taken on.

      And for investors who are concerned about my time management, other than words and ideas, the ‘fuel’ for my efforts comes from investment success.

      Not that I wasn’t incredibly motivated before, but if it is possible, I am even more motivated now.

      And yes I am posting while on the elliptical for better time management.

      1. CindyF   1 year ago

        So Ackman's wife didn't cite Wikipedia? Is Wikipedia considered a primary source? I thought most professors would not allow Wiki as a referenced source because it's definitions and information was user edited and changed constantly.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Their definitions on scientific topics are pretty good which seems to be her primary usage.

        2. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

          Here's the thing. She clearly plagiarized, BUT...as far as I understand, she is no longer a professor at MIT. So the call to action is rather limp. What's the appropriate response?

          You can discredit her scholarship, sure, but she has an actual body of work beyond her scholarship that stands on its own. So those can continue to be valued even while people can attack her for poor academic work. If she received any honors for her papers and writings, those can be revoked, and if she was paid anything for her academic publications, which is doubtful, she could presumably pay it back. But it's not like there's any need to call on MIT for action because she's seemingly not a professor there.

          It's a distinctly different thing from having not just a professor, but the President of the institution, whose entire body of work IS her written acumen, be guilty of extensive plagiarism.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            It's an attempt at retaliation by the ivory tower against the person who exposed Gay's own extensive plagiarism. The funny thing is, Ackman didn't set out to do this originally. He just wanted the antisemitism on campus addressed. But, then again, Gavrilo Princip only set out to assassinate Archduke Franz Ferdinand, but started WWI instead. Things have a strange way of escalating and getting out of hand quickly.

            1. Moonrocks   1 year ago

              It’s an attempt at retaliation by the ivory tower against the person who exposed Gay’s own extensive plagiarism

              It should be noted that it's not just the ivory tower. Business Insider is making the accusation.

              1. Stuck in California   1 year ago

                BI is very agenda driven. They used to be just dumb clickbait, but I see them more and more and they're pretty much pushing the socialist progressive line, always.

                That said, even the "clearly plagiarized" in thinking mind's post is extremely different than in Gay's dissertation. They're picking at places where she should have used quotation marks, even though her citations very clearly define where they came from and give attribution to the originators. Likewise, it was backed by original, practical research. This is all petty shit not along the level of fraud, more like what her academic advisor probably should have caught and helped her with before she defended her thesis.

                Gay's work is not unique or new in any way, and she has extensive plagiarism in multiple publications, and that was all her basis for presiding over the oldest and (at one time) most prestigious university in America. The comparison is not apt.

            2. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago (edited)

              It’s an attempt at retaliation by the ivory tower against the person who exposed Gay’s own extensive plagiarism.

              Sure, but attacking motives is what the left did. “Attacking Gay's scholarship is just retaliation for her disagreements with a GOP Congresswoman.” Motivation farming is less useful than addressing whether the things are true, and what the appropriate remedies are.

              As I understand it, and mentioned above, Neri Oxman actually does things and creates things other than scholarly papers. So she has a reputation and career independent of her scholarship. Claudine Gay’s achievements are entirely through academic work, which is shown to be sloppy. So it’s fair to say that even the sins are identical, the weight and impact are not.

              Also, if Oxman is no longer an MIT professor, what’s the appropriate remedy? There basically is none.

              1. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

                Gay's field is Black Grievance Studies. It would be hard not to plagiarize as all Black Grievance Studies scholars write the same stuff. The only novelty is when someone discovers a new thing to call racist.

                1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

                  Toast. Toast is completely racist. Fuck, there's even a darkness dial right on the toaster!

              2. DRM   1 year ago

                Yep. There's simply a huge difference between "The person in charge of making final decisions regarding the enforcement of Harvard's academic honesty policy is a serial plagiarist" and "The spouse of someone I don't like once plagiarized something."

                The first is an actual scandal. The second is just stupid gotcha games. I mean, Dr. Jill Biden's husband is a known plagiarist, but is anyone demanding he resign his non-academic position over it?

      2. Eeyore   1 year ago

        His posts are way too long. No way I'm reading anything he has to say.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Yeah, I read the big one he had yesterday (skimmed it mostly), and while it wasn't quite War and Peace, it was almost as long. I got the gist that he's seriously pissed, and that now would be a good time to stock up on popcorn.

          1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

            I have noticed all muted posts are the same, shorter, length.

            1. Eeyore   1 year ago

              I will keep my argument short. Any woman that let's me put my penis inside her can plegerize all she wants.

  13. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

    Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 had an accident while up in the air, and part of the plane flew off.

    Pretty sure the flight had a malfunction; the passengers had accidents.

    1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

      Read an article about that yesterday from CNN. They closed with the most pertinent facts:

      Passengers applauded as the plane landed, King's video shows. Some passengers stood up. Flight attendants reminded them to remain seated. One man can be heard saying, "There's a fuckin' hole inside the plane. What the fuck is that?"

      End of article.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

        “There’s a fuckin’ hole inside the plane. What the fuck is that?”

        Testing Fauci's lastest idea for covid mitigation on planes.

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

        At least it wasn't a snake

        1. Kungpowderfinger   1 year ago

          “I have had it with this motherfucking hole on this motherfucking plane!”

    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      The fruits of Boeing's DEI policies.

      1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

        737 MAX-9 fuse is manufactured Spirit AeroSystems. Spirit makes the door plug, but Boeing installs the plug.

        There's going to be a shitload of finger pointing in the next few weeks. ~170 MAX-9's have been grounded.

        1. Chumby   1 year ago

          If you are bored, see the 1974 Turkish Air flight 981 crash caused by a cargo door that blew out. This was a known issue.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            Yep, and go one back, to the Windsor Incident (AA Flight 96 - with the same type of plane, DC-10) with the same cargo door issue.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_96

            The lessons from AA 96 were not learned quick enough to be applied to Turkish 981.

            There's also UAL Flight 811 (Boeing 747) which also suffered a cargo door issue in 1989.

            1. Chumby   1 year ago

              Both were DC10s where the fix wasn’t mandated, didn’t have mandatory verification, or some other related failure to correct.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                Yep. NTSB told McDonnell-Douglas and FAA to fix the damn thing after the AA Flight 96, but both balked until the crash of Turkish 981. After the crash of Turkish 981, the mechanism was redesigned, just what NTSB told them to do in the first place.

                1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

                  Boeing has way more influence on the FAA and NTSB than people realize. Similar to Pharma and the FDA.

                  I worked on a project to improve a particular interior flammability property and Boeing said "we can't accomplish that in the time frame allotted." The FAA moved the deadline out a full year.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                    Boeing has far too much influence on FAA. NTSB seems far more than willing to call them out.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      It's one of two issues. Either a) a manufacturing issue where the assembly line screwed up and put it together wrong, or b) a design issue. I'm placing my bets on a design issue as it wouldn't be the first time a design issue led to a problem like this.

      I seriously can't wait for the NTSB report to come out on this one. It's probably going to be a doozy.

      1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

        I can guarantee, with 100% confidence, the NTSB report will NOT find any blame in the federal government oversight and approval processes. It is just a coincidence that they approved a design that lets parts fall off in flight.

        1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

          No widespread parts falling off.

          1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

            Parts falling off reluctantly .

            1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

              Parts falling off strategically.

          2. Think It Through   1 year ago

            The flight was mostly peaceful.

            1. Chumby   1 year ago

              Pieceful

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          You'd be surprised. NTSB has called out FAA on numerous occasions in their reports. The special thing about NTSB is that they are accountable to no other department in Washington. They have been, since 1975, a fully independent agency. This is intentional so that they have no fear in calling out other federal agencies.

          Cases in point include:

          * Alaska Flight 261 where they called out the FAA for lax oversight of Alaska's maintenance program, specifically letting Alaska continuously extend the lubrication intervals for the horizontal stabilizer jackscrew.

          * Colgan Air Flight 3407 where the chairman called out the FAA as the FAA did not do enough to address pilot fatigue and background checks as the crash was caused in part by the first officer's fatigue from her work schedule.

          It happens far more than you'd think.

          1. D-Pizzle   1 year ago

            The first officer's fatigue was from her commuting from Washington to fly east coast and east Midwest flight routes.

  14. Chumby   1 year ago

    I think Liz gets her Roundup ideas from the previous day’s comments.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      I will humbly take credit for the Ackerman story.

      1. Chumby   1 year ago

        I should amend it with …some of her ideas…

        If she did get inspiration from your post, you are now part of the Wolfe Pack.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Do I get a t shirt?

          1. Chumby   1 year ago

            Yes, but the shirt has an image of Soave’s head printed on it with a lock of his hair sewn onto the top as a fabric-fiber bas relief type thing.

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

              Does it have sequins to move between happy and grumpy soave?

              1. Chumby   1 year ago

                Ask Liz. Better, send that in as a podcast question. 🙂

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      So that's why it's gotten better

    3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      She's admitted to reading the comments, something ENB never really did.

      1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

        ENB clearly seethed over comment sections at times. She probably didn't read them regularly, but she didn't completely avoid them, either.

        1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

          How could she, with "Mike Laursen" posting all the time?

          1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

            She was White Mike.

    4. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Or we've got someone who talks about current Libertarian issues.

  15. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

    The Supreme Court will decide whether former President Donald Trump can be kept off ballots via the 14th Amendment, which includes a section barring officials who have "engaged in insurrection" from holding public office. Oral arguments will be held on February 8.

    Watch the Democrats move on to packing the court again because they wouldn't let them keep political rivals off the ballot. Nobly saving democracy from the electorate again.

    1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

      I did call that a couple of weeks ago. SCOTUS will strike this down. There will be pressure on the liberals in the court to vote to uphold in order to generate a 6-3 ruling, demonstrating bias in the court. It will lead to more cries of corruption by Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barret, and people talking more about court packing.

      I don't think they'll actually try it, but you'll get some constitutional scholars on the left pointing out that Biden could simply appoint 6 more justices and have the Senate confirm them and see what happens.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

        Six potential justices with rapid onset lead poisoning?

  16. (Impeach Robert L. Peters) Weigel's Cock Ring   1 year ago

    "She is a black woman"

    Except she'really not, if you go by the usual political definition of black that's alnost always used when discussing race in America.

    Her parents were both immigrants from Haiti, and the overwhelming majority of true black Americans (meaning directly descended from American slaves) absolutely do NOT consider immigrants or the descendants of immigrants from Africa, the Caribbean, or anywhere else to be at all the same as them.

    It's a touchy and sensitive subject that they don't like discussing openly (especially among whites), but it's the truth. She's the female version of Obama: a faker who learned how to latch onto the grift and use it to her advantage very early on in life.

    1. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

      to be fair, haiti is a shithole

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Reparations jealousy?

  17. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    Backing Trump against the Colorado Supreme Court.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_0884fd8c-ad5a-11ee-8acb-03bc5bea9a9c.html

    A coalition of more than two dozen state attorneys general have voiced their support for former President Trump after the U.S. Supreme Court announced it would review the Colorado Supreme Court’s decision to remove Trump from the ballot for his connection to the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

    The state leaders have now filed a joint brief with the U.S. Supreme Court arguing Colorado’s court went too far with their ruling.

    “Court’s immediate intervention is required. The Colorado court’s decision will create widespread chaos,” the brief said. “Most obviously, it casts confusion into an election cycle that is just weeks away. Beyond that, it upsets the respective roles of the Congress, the States, and the courts.

    "Now that the Colorado court has intruded into an arena where courts previously have feared to tread, swift intervention is essential," the brief adds.

    Trump’s critics have repeatedly called him a threat to Democracy, saying his rhetoric provoked the Jan. 6 incident. His supporters have pushed back, pointing out Trump called for peaceful demonstration on Jan. 6 and said political motives have elevated the prosecution of this incident while the Black Lives Matter riots did not receive the same legal scrutiny.

    The attorneys general argued the U.S. Supreme Court needs to resolve the ballot issue once and for all.

    Attorneys general from Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, and Wyoming signed the brief.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      From the local CBS affiliate:

      "Certainly a lot of people are going to be spending the holidays thinking over this quite a bit," said Mario Nicolais, an attorney for the Republicans and one of six Colorado voters to bring the lawsuit. Nicolais said he was confident the nation's highest court would uphold the state court's decision.

      Just reminder that Nicolais, a NeverTrumper ex-GOP turned Democrat, said this about the Supreme Court earlier this year:

      Instead, six members of the Supreme Court (I cannot bring myself to refer to them as “justices” right now), decided to pull both stepping stones from under the feet of communities still struggling with oppression. Their opinions likely would have done former Chief Justice Roger Brooke Taney — author of the Dred Scott decision — proud.

      Perhaps those six justices should be made aware of how little Mario Nicolais really thinks of their decisions when they don't go in favor of his side.

    2. Sevo   1 year ago

      "...Trump’s critics have repeatedly called him a threat to Democracy, saying his rhetoric provoked the Jan. 6 incident..."

      No one has yet explained any mechanism whatsoever whereby Trump could possibly 'threaten' democracy in the US.
      Personally, I think he's a threat to levitate the capitol, and I'm as justified in making that claim as his critics making their's.

    3. Think It Through   1 year ago

      Don't even need to look up whether the AGs of Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, and Wyoming are (R) or (D).

  18. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

    In today's Stupid Center-Right Hot Takes:

    It was nauseating watching Elise Stefanik echo Trump’s description of J6 convicted felons as hostages this weekend. People who repeatedly assault police, interrupt a congressional proceeding while threatening the safety of the representatives and their staff, and vandalize the Capitol are now hostages of political persecution. Where is the outrage from law-and-order conservatives and religious conservatives? Where is the responsibility to correct the ignorant thinking of so many? It’s not less of a lie because you attach it to “playing politics”. Where are the voices from the Right decrying this nonsense? Where is Fox News? This has to stop.
    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3) — 1/8/2024 @ 5:33 am

    This bit of self-indulgent performative outrage comes in the wake of the Washington DC Attorney General saying that he wants to charge people who didn't even enter the Capitol, but were just standing outside, and journoscum Brian Karem stating that anyone who would support Trump should be jailed. Or, say, the FBI conducting raids on abortion protestors who didn't actually do anything at the protest other than exercise his First Amendment rights to freedom of speech and freedom of religion through praying. Or, the FBI using all the NDAA tools at its disposal to chase down Jan. 6 participants, but not the Floyd riots which destroyed far more property, caused far more deaths, and went on for months. This fuckwad "conservative" certainly doesn't have such face-fanning wails for that.

    Note once again how the neocon right spends most of its effort tone-policing the right, while hand-waving away the actions of the left or outright ignoring them completely. And of course, there's the evergreen lament about Fox News, which just so happens to be the left's greatest media bete noir (with talk radio thrown in randomly, of course, when only septuagenarian Boomers are the ones listening to that anymore).

    Just another example of why their chosen candidate, Nikki Haley, needs to be rejected completely. These people aren't going to do anything except stab the ones they need to be elected in the back, whining that the right is kowtowing to authoritarianism while supporting Haley's proposals to not only NOT cut back the federal police state, but to continue expanding it. Which they know damn well won't be targeted against the left, but the left's political enemies on the right. And then they continue to act shocked that GOP voters keep telling them to go fuck themselves.

    These are the people who love to peacock as "small government conservatives," whining that the GOP base wants a dictator, yet continually enables authoritarian government policies that only seem to ever be used against politically conservative people.

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

      Yes we know. Even if real conservatives committed real crimes on Jan. 6, they are still "political prisoners" anyway and should be treated as jailed martyrs, because the whole system is rigged.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago (edited)

        Casting a net to people who were just standing outside and didn’t even enter the building demonstrates that political persecution is the actual goal here.

        Of course, True and Honest Radical Individualists also claim that the populace needs to reflexively defer to the statements of "experts" rather than use their own judgement.

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          Jeff's own special brand of authoritarian "libertarianism". Smells and tastes just like regular fascism, but he swears it's not.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          Give me the name of one person who was prosecuted "just for standing outside".

          1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

            I think no one...yet...that's the point, the US Attorney and DC AG are threatening to start prosecuting bystanders.

            https://www.nbcwashington.com/investigations/dc-ag-considers-charging-trump-others-who-rallied-crowd-with-inciting-violence/2543560/

            The U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C., has not ruled out filing felony charges for inciting a riot, but he also hasn't committed to doing it.

            Enter D.C. Attorney General Karl Racine, who says he's now investigating, too, even though his prosecution authority is limited only to misdemeanors.

            Racine says there is still more investigating to do and he plans to coordinate with the U.S. Attorney's Office's current and potential future leadership so as not to interfere with potentially more serious charges.

      2. Dillinger   1 year ago

        >>Even if real conservatives committed real crimes on Jan. 6

        just fucking stop.

    2. MK Ultra   1 year ago

      Karem and I cross paths socially a few times a year. He's a fucking jackass in person as well.

  19. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    Obviously, I don't think this guy's resume or application will go far at CVS ever again.

    https://cwbchicago.com/2024/01/chicago-cvs-former-employee-charged-robbery-again.html

    Myles Webb used to work for CVS. He doesn’t anymore, and it’s not looking like he’ll be considered for future positions.

    Prosecutors say Webb robbed a West Loop CVS last week while he was on probation for burglarizing an Edgewater CVS, which he also robbed two times. Webb, 31, is now being held at the Cook County jail as a public safety threat while he faces a new aggravated robbery charge.

    In November 2021, Webb used a set of keys to enter CVS, 6150 North Broadway, after-hours. He disarmed the alarm system and took $2,280 in cash from the safe, prosecutors said.

    Then, on May 21, 2022, a female CVS employee was preparing to open the store when she saw Webb walking toward her with merchandise, according to prosecutors. When she told him the store was closed, Webb pushed a cart rack into her and announced a robbery, prosecutors said.

    About a month later, he committed a nearly identical robbery of the store when the same employee was preparing to open for business.

    Prosecutors say he dusted off his old playbook on New Year’s Eve at the pharmacy chain’s 1034 West Lake location.

    They say he entered the store shortly after it opened at 7 a.m. and told a female employee, “Give me the money. I don’t want to hurt anybody.”

    Really, he just wanted a massive bonus.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      This is why we need to disallow background checks. This guy obviously excels at knowing how CVS runs their business.

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      At this point, he's probably getting paid more than $120 to $130 every hour for working on the web after he found out about this Q activity 3 months prior and subsequent to joining it has earned effectively $15k from this without having internet working abilities Copy underneath site to...

  20. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

    Unrealized gains are the largest source of income for the ultra-rich—but they're completely UNTAXED under our tax code.

    Commies are idiots, news at 11.

    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

      Conflating wealth with money is a common economic misconception.

      1. Ska   1 year ago

        Which doesn't make it any less stupid.

        I had someone try to argue that "a millionaire" is someone whose annual income is $1M or more. I replied something like "not to people who know what the definition of a millionaire is" and got a further reply of "that's what it means now."

        Dishonest or dumb? I gave them the benefit of the doubt and pointed out their dishonesty.

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          That's another common economic misconception: conflating income with wealth.

          1. markm23   1 year ago

            It's always been common among those who never accumulate much more wealth than their last paycheck.

    2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

      That isn't news.

  21. Sevo   1 year ago

    "...A story about a salon upcharge for clients with autism is making the rounds,..."

    How DARE you!

    1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago (edited)

      Yes, it’s clearly unethical to charge extra to cut the hair of a population noted for having unpredictable reactions to people touching their head or hair.

      Da fuq is dis.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      Yeah, no. The salon charges extra if an autistic customer prefers to be the one and only customer in the shop--it closes its doors to all other customers during the exclusive session.

  22. MWAocdoc   1 year ago

    "Instead, it is becoming trench warfare over plagiarism, which seems like the dumbest possible way for this to all go."

    So, basically, you're saying that the "plagiarism" diversion cycle worked to distract the nation from the actual issue? Well, duh! Show of hands: anyone here who did NOT know that authoritarians and their tame media propagandists were diversion and spin GRAND MASTERS?

  23. MWAocdoc   1 year ago (edited)

    “many had hoped that other factions in the Middle East, particularly those backed by Iran, would not be drawn into the conflict.”

    Hope is a wonderful thing. It makes me full of wonder that anyone could have even imagined that Middle East War Number Twenty-Seven would not have spiraled out of control as usual. When in the last 75 years has it NOT drawn other factions into the conflict?

  24. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago (edited)

    The focus of the Harvard kerfuffle could have been the initial congressional testimony, and the speech double standards present on college campuses. Or it could’ve been the intellectual bankruptcy of DEI bureaucracy. Instead, it is becoming trench warfare over plagiarism, which seems like the dumbest possible way for this to all go.

    I think I agree with people like Chris Rufo on this. It’s just the start. Once they start investigating plagiarism amongst academics, they will find a bunch by mostly progressive academics. DEI won’t save them here. Either they need to honor the codes and fire the individuals involved, and they’re be a lot of them, or their codes and reputation mean jack shit, and jack just left town. That will mean the end of academia as we know it anyway. Who will trust them ever again?

    It also allows for everyone, and I mean everyone to have to actually read these papers put out there by progressives in academia pushing all sorts of postmodernistic garbage. This stuff, usually hidden from the public view in journals, will be out in the open laid bare for all to see, dressed as it were in the emperor’s new clothes.

    Wokal Distance goes into more detail on Twitter.

    https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1743524934239007065

    There’s an element of @realchrisrufo’s strategy no one has picked up on yet. It’s this:

    Almost nobody outside universities reads academic papers, so the papers radical activist professors write in which they defend absurd ideas don’t get read by the general public.

    So…Leftist academics are free to use academic journals to advance their social and political goals in the academy and no one notices because no one outside the academy reads it.

    This dynamic allows leftist profs to make absurd claims on behalf of leftist dogma and pay no price.

    Since no one outside academia reads these journals, activist profs could claim truth does not exist, everything is about power, men can become women, and other such wild claims, and the general public was unaware that academia had been hijacked by a political agenda.

    But….Now @realchrisrufo has started a plagiarism war in academia. And you what that means?

    It means people are now looking for plagiarism in academia, and in order to do find plagiarism guess what they are going to have to do?

    That’s right…they have to read academic journals.

    And when they read those journals they are going to find paper after paper denying objective truth, papers claiming racial identity matters more than facts, papers that claim lived experience is more important than evidence, and papers claiming children can pick their gender.

    This will be delicious to see, and the left will eat itself over it.

    1. Ska   1 year ago

      Can you get a hangover from drinking too many tears?

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

        I’ve consumed gallons of Trumpian tears and never got so much as a mild buzz. So no, you can’t.

        1. Ska   1 year ago

          Alright, sounds like I have enough alka seltzer on hand to take care of any negative effects.

        2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          "Trumpian tears"

          Funny way of spelling "jizz".

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Your mom must be so proud of you.

    2. MWAocdoc   1 year ago (edited)

      “Who will trust them ever again?”

      Wait, what? You think academia will self-destruct if people no longer trust them? Bwaaaahahahahahaaaa! Creeping socialism does not depend even a little bit on integrity, rationality or believability. One by one over several decades I have watched institutions like “Scientific American,” “The Sierra Club,” “the American Medical Association,” "The New York Times," "The Washington Post," and uncountable corporate Boards of Directors become captured and converted into propaganda organs. Academia has not been even remotely trustworthy for decades, even in the usually self-verifying scientific research sector. Publish or perish virtually guarantees that.

    3. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

      https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2023/01/princeton-honor-code-first-gen-low-income-justice-system

      Honor codes are racist.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

        Goddamn.

    4. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      Soon enough no one will be reading the journals except AI looking for plagiarism.

    5. Oafish   1 year ago

      One can hope this where it goes. Unless it’s part of the article not cited here, one issue is that these viewpoints metastasize over time. Articles from years ago might be relatively tame but later research cite (or not!) and expand on them. The line gets pushed until we end up where we are. That may be the advantage in this case. Academics rationalize the drift to radicalism, hopefully society just sees the crazy endpoints.

  25. sarcasmic   1 year ago

    In other news, the first three John Wick flicks are on Netflix.

    1. Brett Bellmore   1 year ago

      A month or two ago we watched the first one. Just a bunch of the guy killing people, glued together with a bare pretense of having a plot. Didn't see any point in seeing the rest.

      1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

        The first one is considered the one with the most sensible plot. You probably made the right call.

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          True. The rest are just John Wick pretending to be Keanu. It's all about the choreography.

      2. JeremyR   1 year ago

        The thing about John Wick movies is that Reeves uses actual gun fighting techniques and has trained extensively in them. That's why he will never "accidentally" kill someone on a movie set.

      3. VinniUSMC   1 year ago

        A month or two ago we watched the first one. Just a bunch of the guy killing people, glued together with a bare pretense of having a plot. Didn’t see any point in seeing the rest.

        I watched all 3 of them this weekend. You accurately described all three of them. The over-arching plot is ... decent, but underwhelming. And some of it is downright absurd. But, it's still better than the Fast and Furious movies.

  26. NOYB2   1 year ago

    Ackman, Oxmkan, Gay, Kornbluth... they are all part of the rot that has taken hold of our universities and our financial "elites": entitled racists and bigots all of them. I hope they mutually destroy each other and their reputations.

    And everybody who has demonstrably plagiarized should get fired from universities. Everybody. No exceptions.

    1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      And diplomas granted for plagiarized work should be withdrawn.

      1. rbike   1 year ago

        Gay is still taking in close to a million a year despite being fired. I certainly have none of that privilege. I am driving to work tomorrow through a winter storm.

        1. Oafish   1 year ago

          Hopefully the “smart” young people at Harvard will now see her for what she is. Sadly I expect not.

    2. Oafish   1 year ago

      At least Ackman appears to have seen the light on DE&I. IMO, only when the E turned on the Jews but, hey, at least he now sees and has influence.

  27. NOYB2   1 year ago

    many had hoped that other factions in the Middle East, particularly those backed by Iran, would not be drawn into the conflict

    "Drawn into"??? Iran is orchestrating this. Iran decides whether they get deployed or not.

  28. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

    Now Business Insider has accused Ackman's wife—Neri Oxman, an entrepreneur and former MIT professor—of plagiarism herself. Oxman, they say, "stole sentences and whole paragraphs from Wikipedia, other scholars and technical documents in her academic writing." (As an aside: Oxman's work is interesting. "Her team at the MIT Media Lab coaxed silkworms to build sculptures," notes the article. Oxman "also made undulating structures out of natural materials like cellulose and chitin, the material found in shrimp cells.")

    What's funny is this is supposed to make me feel like this is a gotcha, and I honestly don't care. If person X points out that Person Y is a racist narcissist who happens to plagiarize? Why do I care of person X gets busted later for same?

    Aside: Is it probable that Wikipedia stole whole sentences and paragraphs from her?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Aside: Is it probable that Wikipedia stole whole sentences and paragraphs from her?

      Probable. Wikipedia doesn't exactly have particularly high standards from what I've seen in that regard.

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      I think the "As an aside" has a rather cogent point as well. People may be created equally, but not all forms of expression or means of valuing expression are.

      A bricklayer "Whistling while they work" isn't plagiarizing anyone. A ballerina reciting Shakespeare while they perform a novel or even prescribed and rehearsed ensemble isn't plagiarizing anyone. It's the specific "Give me your dissertation." and getting someone else's dissertation in reply.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Wikipedia is only ever useful for cross-referencing cited sources. The main reasons it wasn't considered a legitimate citation for so long was because of the mass editing feature, and its wholly superficial information presentation that, in many instances are completely out of date or devoid of context completely. And of course, it has its collection of certified editors that are also radical-left activists who vigorously police entries for anything that goes against the left-liberal narrative.

      I'd heard this was starting to change in recent years due to it being such a ubiquitous research tool, and it wouldn't surprise me, but I haven't been able to verify that yet for sure.

    4. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

      IMO Wikipedia is only good to get a superficial, first-level understanding of a topic. It's never to be used as a primary source, but it is fine as an introduction to a topic and a place to go start looking for better sources.

  29. mad.casual   1 year ago

    Or it could've been the intellectual bankruptcy of DEI bureaucracy. Instead, it is becoming trench warfare over plagiarism, which seems like the dumbest possible way for this to all go.

    There's some trimming of the fat of peer-review groupthink (especially re: applied science vs. diverse political "science") in there as well, but yeah.

  30. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

    On one hand, it's fair to collectively groan Why do we have another goddamn Harvard-related news cycle? On the other, we're in a weird moment for plagiarism and the related subject of intellectual property. If ChatGPT is the death knell for plenty of academic writing, maybe it's replacing something that had already mostly withered and died.

    When a couple of merry pranksters can get the most ridiculous, fake, comically absurd papers published in major academic journals*, I'm sorry to say, but at least some segments of academic writing were not 'mostly withered and dead' they were Zombies crashing through Academia, infecting everything they touched.

    *papers that if I recalled were dismissed by Reason under the rubric of "c'mon, anyone can be fooled once in a while".

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      One can even take it back to 1996 and the Sokal Affair wherein Alan Sokal submitted a paper entitled "Transgressing the Boundaries: Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity" to a journal, Social Text. The rot should've been obvious to anyone back then, but nothing was done about it. Then Helen Pluckrose, James Lindsay, and Peter Boghossian submitted a series of papers essentially taking Mein Kampf and rewriting it for the grievance studies journals.

      From 2018:

      https://www.timesofisrael.com/duped-academic-journal-publishes-rewrite-of-mein-kampf-as-feminist-manifesto/

      In a truncated year-long project aimed at highlighting the alleged influence of extremist dogma and confirmation bias in academia, the trio wrote 20 farcical “scholarly” papers — three of which were based on rewrites of “Mein Kampf” — for leading cultural studies journals. All 20 of the papers were based on “something absurd or deeply unethical, or both,” the authors have said; seven were accepted for publication.

      One of the papers, “Our Struggle is My Struggle: Solidarity Feminism as an Intersectional Reply to Neoliberal and Choice,” was written under the alias Maria Gonzalez, PhD, who claimed to be based out of the fictitious Feminist Activist Collective for Truth (FACT).

      According to the real-life authors, “The last two-thirds of this paper is based upon a rewriting of roughly 3,600 words of Chapter 12 of Volume 1 of ‘Mein Kampf,’ by Adolf Hitler, though it diverges significantly from the original. This chapter is the one in which Hitler lays out in a multi-point plan which we partially reproduced why the Nazi party is needed and what it requires of its members.”

  31. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

    The Supreme Court will decide whether former President Donald Trump can be kept off ballots via the 14th Amendment, which includes a section barring officials who have "engaged in insurrection" from holding public office. Oral arguments will be held on February 8.

    Weren't we instructed by our local cohort of Bidenistas that the States can make their own 14th amendment decisions?

  32. Bill Dalasio   1 year ago

    This is a retarded battle for Insider and the academic establishment to fight. Ackman has a net worth of approximately $4 billion. If his wife loses her academic career, I'm pretty sure they'll both be just fine. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure a wholesale review of Insider and the academic establishment will turn up a treasure trove of scalps.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

      Claudine Gay makes a cool million a year and will continue to do so. And she came from a privileged background anyway. She'll be fine.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        Let's you, I, Bill Dalasio, and Roland Fryer Jr. all just agree to disagree that she's a race-grifting plagiarist who deserves nothing except to be fired.

        1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

          Can I get in on that?

      2. Bill Dalasio   1 year ago

        True. I'm just thinking that, institutionally, they have a lot more to lose than Ackman in this fight. "His wife is a plagiarist" is going to have exactly zero affect on Ackman's ability to run a hedge fund. "MIT is riddled with plagiarists" has a significant consequence to their institutional credibility (and that's what this class of universities trades on).

        1. Dillinger   1 year ago

          watching it all burn is most entertaining I hope the dummies keep it up until all the cheaters are exposed.

        2. Longtobefree   1 year ago

          Harvard credibility? What Harvard credibility?

        3. JeremyR   1 year ago

          Elite colleges are all basically just hedge funds these days. Education is secondary, maybe even tertiary.

  33. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago (edited)

    Please enjoy the absolute worst segment on the Claudine Gay scandal, involving the most Hilaria Baldwin–esque overpronunciation of the word Latino you could possibly imagine.

    As best as I could stomach this ‘normie news’ segment that increasingly feels as fake as the drama on Survivor or whatever reality tv show is currently running the rounds, I can’t believe anyone still watches this stuff.

    And

    Hilaria Baldwin–esque overpronunciation of the word Latino

    One of my biggest pet peeves about the chattering classes.

    1. Zeb   1 year ago (edited)

      “Latino” is an English word anyway. No one (OK I’m sure someone does, but you know what I mean) uses it that way in Spanish.
      I want to hear someone try to pronounce "Latinx" with an over the top Spanish accent.

      1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

        Lah-TEEN-eh-KEES (sounds rrrrrridiculo).

      2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        Latino is an American catchall, while Latinos generally refer to themselves by their national origin.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

          This is true. An ex military guy I used to know back in the 80s who was from Panama was racist against Mexicans. Had you lumped him in with Mexico, he'd have probably gotten quite agitated.

        2. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

          I had to look up the difference between Hispanic and Latino.
          Hispanics are anyone from a Spanish speaking country (except Filipinos).
          Latinos are anyone from Mexico down to Tierra Del Fuego (including Brazilians).
          Latinx, from what I recall was originally meant to refer to people of the gay persuasion. It was taken up by femonists to just neuter the word.
          I see quite a few polls that ask if you are Hispanic, if yes the next page asks you what kind and lists the 21 or so countries where Spanish is spoken, as opposed to "Asian" which covers everyone from Japan to the Mid east.

      3. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

        The only time I become a pedantic asshole In Real Life is when white people over-pronounce foreign names. (and in the cases where I'm familiar with the native pronunciation, usually bungle it in some way)

        Anglicizing foreign words and names is perfectly acceptable, just like that French speaking guy you know "Francocizes" all the English words coming out of his mouth.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

          Aside: I remember years and years ago, back when people had "blogs", someone made an excellent post mocking NPR. In particular they noted the NPR All Things Considered intro music as being the perfect example of "Intellectual whimsy" and NPR commentators fervent over pronunciation of all words and names of Spanish origin while mysteriously not doing it for any other language.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      Well it's Chris Wallace. No evidence anyone actually watches his show.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        On CNN, so even less evidence.

    3. mad.casual   1 year ago

      One of my biggest pet peeves about the chattering classes.

      I LOLed when I saw it was Lulu Garcia-Navarro. Former host at NPR, born in London, raised in Miami. It's beyond goddamned parody. Like imagining Emilio Estevez or Martin Sheen going "Es muy rrrrridiculo!"

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        Like imagining Emilio Estevez or Martin Sheen going “Es muy rrrrridiculo!”

        Like getting mocked for your white privilege by Catherine Zeta Jones or Penelope Cruz.

        "Bitch, I'm busy doing my own manual labor like a deplorable here. Don't you have some empanadas to make or something?"

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

        My favorite back when I listened was Lakshmi Singh... the Howard Cosell of NPR.

  34. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

    Epstein victim Sarah Ransome claimed Trump had sex with 'many girls' in emails where she also said Jeffrey had sex tapes of ex-president, Richard Branson, Prince Andrew, and Clinton, bombshell new docs reveal

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

    TRUMP CULT DON'T CARE!

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Sounds unsubstantiated. Anyway, if you're going to post a link, post the direct link.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12939281/Epstein-documents-released-17-exhibits-unsealed-court.html

      In the latest dump of papers are emails sent by Epstein victim Sarah Ransome to DailyMail.com columnist Maureen Callahan in 2016. At the time, Callahan worked for The New York Post and reporting on Epstein.

      Ransome claimed in those emails that Trump had sex with 'many girls', including a friend of hers who is not named, who she says also slept with Bill Clinton and Virgin billionaire Richard Branson.

      None of the women are named and Trump has repeatedly denied having any involvement in Epstein's seedy lifestyle.

      And only one person is claiming this so far. There's no dates attached to any of the allegations. What's odd is that Trump was the only one who willingly answered questions. None of the others did. Trump also banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago in 2007 for trying to solicit an underage girl.

      1. Super Scary   1 year ago

        "Virgin billionaire Richard Branson"

        Such a shame you have to work your way to being a billionaire and befriending a pedophile just to get laid. Richard, there were much easier ways to lose your virginity.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

        And only one person is claiming this so far.

        Who cares? You baboons went apeshit when you found one slimy Russian claiming that Hunter Biden ran some influence peddling operation.

        One liar is enough to convict!

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          It is amazing watching you continually deny all the evidence you've been given dozens of times. Includes wire transfers, multiple witnesses, FBI reports, bank reports, etc. Just amazing.

          Not even sarc is this persistent at being so wrong.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

            You don't have any fucking evidence.

            I want to see the actual bank transfer file including the routing numbers, the account numbers, and the account owner's names.

            Let's start there.

            Produce it or STFU.

            1. Dillinger   1 year ago

              lol okie dokie, judge

            2. Sevo   1 year ago

              turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does.

            3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

              "I want to see the actual bank transfer file including the routing numbers, the account numbers"

              That's right. Just post the routing numbers and someone's account numbers publicly, because what the fuck.

              Also, what the hell are the routing numbers and account numbers going to tell you, shithead. You have no way of crosschecking them.

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                He's just demanding you provide the same level of proof that you demand when someone says something about Trump or Republicans.

                1. DesigNate   1 year ago

                  You’ve been here long enough to know what a piece of shit shrike is and that he does, in fact, defend democrats at all costs and routinely post links that refute his posts.

        2. Sevo   1 year ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

        3. Super Scary   1 year ago

          "one slimy Russian"

          Hunter's laptop is Russian?

        4. Zeb   1 year ago

          Not enough to convict, but enough to suggest that maybe something is going on that should be investigated more. And Trump/Epstein should be investigated more too. People are still allowed to have opinions on the evidence presented so far.

    2. Sevo   1 year ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

      Now now, you know the rules when it comes to Trump.

      Trump is totally innocent of everything.
      And even if he isn't innocent, the Democrats made him do it.
      Therefore Trump is blameless.

      Trump is the new Pope - totally infallible.

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        What did Trump do that was actually wrong, fatfuck?

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          Also, vermin.

      2. DesigNate   1 year ago

        That’s one hell of a strawman.

  35. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Nuke the Hamptons

    love it.

  36. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>The Supreme Court will decide whether former President Donald Trump can be kept off ballots via the 14th Amendment

    trouble if they're still holding something over Roberts.

  37. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 had an accident while up in the air, and part of the plane flew off.

    who or what is running the Department of Transportation?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      A DIE hire, apparently, who goes on paternal leave for an adoption.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        every time I get on a plane I think "what if it falls apart @35000 feet" then I convince myself I'm being stupid ... so now what?

        1. Zeb   1 year ago

          Stick to planes that have a record of several years of service without falling apart?

          1. Dillinger   1 year ago

            idk if this option is available for commercial travel?

          2. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

            Boeing's been building 737s for over 40 years, was the 737 MAX fuselage redesigned?

            1. Zeb   1 year ago

              I thought the one that fell apart was some recent redesign. I could be wrong.

            2. Oafish   1 year ago

              Shoddy workmanship.

        2. mad.casual   1 year ago

          Would you feel better if the plane slams into the side of a mountain intact?

          1. Dillinger   1 year ago

            if I'm napping, absolutely.

    2. Moonrocks   1 year ago

      Speaking of the Department of Transportation, I don't think I've heard anything about Buttigieg in the last year or so. Strange how he's been quietly shuffled out of sight.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        Honestly, that's actually a good sign. If you're getting news attention as the head of that department, things are typically going really bad.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      To be fair, this isn't an issue the Department of Transportation needs to micromanage with an observer for each individual plane at every airport in the country.

      Yes, people could have died here, but it speaks more to institutional rot within the aviation industry, which can be attributed to numerous factors that would be like playing whack-a-mole. We're not going to know more until the investigation is done, whether it was a stupid or lazy mechanic in the flightline garage, an inattentive fabricator at the assembly line, or a flaw in the plane's design itself.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        Absolutely. I also believe for what I pay to travel the agreement is the fucking plane won't fall apart and I won't fall to my death strapped to a chair with no emergency parachute under the seat or whatever. Doesn't matter to me which of the above list is responsible they all owe a duty I just like punching up at Pete.

    4. markm23   1 year ago

      The aircraft had a lower-density seat configuration, so two mid-aircraft emergency exits were not needed, and the doors were replaced with a panel "plug". Somehow this plug broke loose and flew away, leaving a door-sized opening in the side of the plane. No one was sitting right beside this door and no one died, but there must have been ruptured eardrums, and a lot of passengers got a sudden education in why you should keep your seatbelt fastened and carry-ons stowed as much as possible.

      So how did something that was supposed to be permanently fastened come loose? The NTSB is still investigating. "The upper guide fittings on the door plug were found to be fractured." Whatever those were. The door did slide upwards to escape from some fittings, and the status of 4 bolts is undetermined - does that mean they're missing completely? If they were broken with only the threaded part left I, I'd suspect counterfeit bolts - bolts sold and marked as high strength steel or aluminum alloy but made of Chinesium with faked paperwork have been a major problem in aerospace for decades. But if they either worked loose or weren't there to begin with, there were major mistakes made in assembling the airplane.

      I suspect that various hardware was breaking or working loose over several flights before the last piece broke, but it probably was only visible in an X-ray. When I worked on Air Force airplanes, if it wasn't supposed to ever come out there would be a whole lot more than 4 bolts holding it!

  38. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Hilaria Baldwin–esque overpronunciation of the word Latino

    SNL did it 30 years ago.

  39. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

    Sorry, Peanuts. I apologize for not keeping you up to date on the FAKE HUNTER BIDEN SCANDALS!

    FWIW - there really isn't much to update. They're still fake.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Yours, Jeffs, and Sarcs claims to never run interference for democrats remains the most hilarious aspect of these comments.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        Yours, MLs, and ICPs claims to never run interference for republicans remains the most dishonest aspect of these comments.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Trump's election seriously broke you, didn't it, dudette? I get the sincere feeling that 2016 happened, and you still haven't gotten past it almost 8 years on.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            You don't see me whining about the election being stolen, bringing up Saint Babbitt whenever the cops shoot someone, or defending illegal behavior by saying it's ok if a Democrat did it first. Yet you say the election broke me?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              No, I see you dragging your hatred of Trump into damn near every thread you can and looking for a fight with every commenter not named SPB2, Jeffy, JFree, or Misconstrueman. Admit it, Sarc, your hatred of the man overrides damn near anything else right now. In fact, look at how many times you brought him up in this thread alone. So yes, I'm saying his election broke you. It's quite obvious.

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                Funny.

              2. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                You can say the election broke me when I chant “Fuck Donald Trump” every morning and say anyone critical of Biden is “deranged.”

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                  There's a difference between criticism and being deranged. You've crossed that line quite a bit here.

                  Oh, and the "Fuck Joe Biden" stuff is a joke, but for some reason, you, a man with "sarcasm" in his name, can't seem to understand sarcasm nor jokes.

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    If you say so. The only derangement I see is from Trump supporters who lose their minds whenever someone denies that the election was stolen, suggests he may have indeed committed unlawful acts, doesn't pray to Saint Babbitt, or otherwise goes against the far-right narrative.

                    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      "the most dishonest aspect of these comments."

                      Hey, you lying piece-of-shit drunky troll. You want to give us an example.

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      I. Don't. Bookmark. Comments.

                      I have a life outside Reason. You should get one.

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      Then why are you here all the time whining about Trump and the so-called Trump cultists?

    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

      Do you think those who claim to oppose funding Ukraine in principle would be so adamant if Hunter had been doing business in Russia instead of Ukraine, or if Trump was buddies with Zelenskyy instead of Putin?

      I kind of doubt it.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        And where was Trump buddies with Putin? If you're relying on the long-fully-discredited Steele Dossier, I have some seriously bad news for you.

        Hunter palled around with anyone looking for access to Joe Biden. Ukraine, China, and yes, even Russia.

        https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-received-35-million-payment-ex-moscow-mayors-wife-republican-report-says-1533834

        A new report from Senate Republicans alleges that Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's son Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million payment from the wealthy wife of Moscow's former mayor, amid a slew of other financial transactions and entanglements that federal government officials warned presented conflicts of interest as the former vice president spearheaded the Obama administration's Ukraine policy.

        1. Sevo   1 year ago

          "...If you’re relying on the long-fully-discredited Steele Dossier, I have some seriously bad news for you..."

          If that were the worst of turd's delusions, he'd be a simple 'tard. No, he's far, far worse than that, the fucking pile of lying lefty shit.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            I was replying to Sarc there instead of Turd, but your point is still valid.

          2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            Sarcasmic lies. That’s not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
            But it’s becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of “evidence” or “relevance”, the concept of “honesty” is simply beyond sarcasmic's ken.

    3. Sevo   1 year ago

      turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
      But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

  40. sarcasmic   1 year ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12939281/Epstein-documents-released-17-exhibits-unsealed-court.html

    Donald Trump named in latest Epstein documents: Sarah Ransome said he had sex with 'many girls' in email where she also claimed pedophile had tapes of the ex-president, Richard Branson, Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton

    Watch the usual suspects get in line to shoot the messenger.

    'Mr. Trump definitely seemed to have a thing for her and she told me how he kept going on about how he liked her 'pert nipples'. Donald Trump liked flicking and sucking her nipples until they were raw.

    In Trump's defense, who doesn't?

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      This is why the actual list needs to be released, and no one gets their name redacted.

      I'm perfectly fine with anyone on it being lined up against a wall and shot, and that includes Trump and Billy Jeff if that's the case.

      After that, start digging into Hollywood's pedophile rings and do the same to them, too.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Agreed. We need to find out and see what the hell actually went on. It's like having 200 pieces of a 500-piece jigsaw puzzle.

      2. Super Scary   1 year ago

        If Trump was actually named and accused on that list, it would have leaked long ago. What they are doing now is trying to conflate baseless accusations with the hard evidence of the list.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

          More like trying to raise a lot of Trump smoke that MSM can use to cover the real list entries.

    2. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

      I like the part where she retracted everything, and later admitted to "inventing" the tapes. Best part of the story is where the claimant herself disputes the truth of her own statements.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        Was that before or after she feared for the safety of herself and her family?

        1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

          A spokesman for Virgin told DailyMail.com today: 'In a New Yorker report published in 2019, Ransome admitted that she had “invented” the tapes.

          'We can confirm that Sarah Ransome’s claims are baseless and unfounded.'

          Maybe she was concerned about the difficulty of substantiating her claims as well.

          Look, if there's evidence against Trump, I'll be quite happy to accept it. I strongly dislike Trump. That said, of all the accusations against him, the Epstein connection is very tenuous. He clearly had cut off ties with him at some point, apparently realizing what a dirtbag Epstein was. He did have sex with a porn star and paid her to keep quiet about it. Moreover, I think if there was hard evidence of Trump being involved, it would have already come out.

          I just have to pull quotes from the story you cited in order to find a few ways in which this story may have issues. I didn't go to any right-wing cite to see a defense, it's clearly the accuser's own words. Now who knows, maybe there's evidence someone threatened to murder her family if she shared the truth and she recanted everything. I'd love to see documents relating to that, as well. That really does seem serious and concerning, if it's true.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Or maybe she said she made it all up after getting an anonymous call late at night from someone who knows where all her family members live. Who knows? Powerful people can shut people up.

            1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

              Here, I'll encourage you to pin this comment. If the videos ever emerge and it turns out they were completely real, I'll happily accept them. I'm not attached to a narrative about this, just following the facts as I understand them.

              If it turns out Trump is a pedophile who had sex with coerced teens, fuck him and throw him in prison for the rest of his life. If there's no video that ever emerges, perhaps it's fair to question the veracity of someone who says they were making it all up. I've just seen enough Jackie's from UVA to be immediately skeptical of unsubstantiated claims.

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                I don't bookmark comments. I leave that for the trolls.

                1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                  We have to bookmark your comments because you constantly lie about what you said... sometimes in the very same thread.

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    Dude, you bookmark things and claim they mean things they don't mean. Like when I mock those who have deified Babbitt you claim I'm mocking Babbitt, or if I say the sky is blue you claim I said purple.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      You mean this, Sarc?

                      https://reason.com/2024/01/03/harvards-affirmative-action-hire-gets-the-boot/?comments=true#comment-10382225

                      sarcasmic 5 days ago
                      I’m saying that some people are so despicable that I’d rather disagree with them then have something in common with them.

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      What about it?

                    3. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Some people are so disgusting that even when they're right you just don't want to agree with them because you'll feel soiled if you do.

                    4. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      Sarc, your utter and complete lack of self-awareness is blindingly amazing to behold.

                  2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                    And within a few comments of each other at that.

              2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                And I completely concur with ATM here. If Trump did it, and there's evidence, then yes, try him and convict him.

                Go ahead Sarc, bookmark this moment. I did something you claim I never do.

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  See what happens. I bet $20 that if there is evidence you'll find a way to excuse it.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                    Go ahead, put that $20 down, and you can bet that when it happens, I will come calling for it.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      "It" is evidence of Trump romping with Epstein's underage harem.

                      Be careful what you wish for.

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  If Trump did it, and there’s evidence, then yes, try him and convict him.

                  lol right

                  1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

                    lol lmao

            2. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

              Or maybe she said she made it all up after getting an anonymous call late at night from someone who knows where all her family members live. Who knows? Powerful people can shut people up.

              Wow, ok... suddenly the whole Epstein didn't kill himself conspiracy theory is fashionable, forward-thinking and part of the #Resistance.

      2. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

        Oh wait, is this "attacking the messenger?" Because I point out that she's said something and also later said it wasn't true? Meaning that anyone who believes one thing she said must also believe something else she said was a lie?

        How terrible of me. Clearly she was, at all times, telling "her truth," and we can't question any of it, even the contradictory parts.

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          Oh wait, is this “attacking the messenger?”

          No, that would be the usual suspects attacking me saying I'm a leftist for even bringing it up. I'm pleasantly surprised they didn't.

  41. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

    Biden on the tube at an "historic" church. Getting shouted down by pro Palestine demonstrators.

  42. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

    Russia’s War on Woke
    Putin Is Trying to Unite the Far Right and Undermine the West
    By Mikhail Zygar
    January 2, 2024

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/russian-federation/russias-war-woke

    Western values are under assault by Putin and his butt-buddies like Trump, Bannon, and other Authoritarians.

    1. Sevo   1 year ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

        Go take you Droxy, Sevo. You're spinning out again. Donnie said you needed that worthless shit.

        1. Sevo   1 year ago

          The TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat lies; it’s all turd ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          The TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat lies; it’s all turd ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago (edited)

      Wokism isn’t a western value; it’s why Wokies are constantly trying to “disrupt and dismantle” western values as “white supremacy.”

      If Putin is actually trying to destroy it (spoiler alert: he isn’t), it’s only incidental to it being the prevailing theology of his current adversaries, just as “capitalism” was when he was in the KGB.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

        I agree 100% that Wokism is not a Western value.

        But free speech, skepticism, SECULARISM, democracy, due process, equal rights for women, social contracts, and open society are - all things Putin/Trump despise and oppose.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Damn, Pluggo, you have some real blind spots there. I don't really care what Putin does; he has minimal influence in the US (and the West), and is a part of Orthodox civilization. However, I see the very people you purport to support oppose free speech with state-sponsored and state-ordered censorship (Twitter Files), skepticism with their need for obedience (see: Covid rules), democracy while knocking people off ballots and denying elections, due process while unconstitutionally keeping J6 protestors in jail for year prior to any sort of trial or plea deal, equal rights for women by having men dressed as women invade their washrooms, locker rooms, sports, and private places, and social contracts by invalidating them.

          You're a Democrat in everything but name, Pluggo.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            Not to mention the manic deflections of Democrat malfeasance.

          2. Sevo   1 year ago

            Well, turd does lie. It's what turd does.

          3. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago (edited)

            Free speech includes my right as a publisher not to publish your drivel.

            Your idea of “free speech” is a government imposing its authority on publishers.

            You Big Government Trumpers never fail.

            1. Sevo   1 year ago

              turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled asshole, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

            2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              Since when did Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, et.al. become publishers?

              1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                The telephone companies are publishers to Pluggo if it means getting to censor anyone who talks ill of the Democrats.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        The problem is, Wokeism could only spring from the left in the West. At its core, it is very much a twisted version of Christianity. There are saints, sinners, a way to confess one's sins and maybe absolve them. There's an original sin that only applies to one group of people. There's even a messiah (Obama), and a form or heaven and hell. Wokeism acts like a religion in its tenets, with seemingly silly rules to follow, things that must be encanted, even its own high priests. It's what happens when you take part of Christianity, remove God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, and add in Marxism.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

          a messiah (Obama),

          Gawd you're an idiot. Progs hated Obama - the bank-friendly, deficit cutting, free trade, Deporter-in-Chief. Bernie and his Bros wanted to primary Obama in 2012 they hated him so much. They wanted Medicare for All instead of the private insurance ACA.

          You are truly an idiot. It is stunning.

          Obama - a prog messiah? Fucking hilarious.

          1. Sevo   1 year ago

            The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

              Go take your Droxy, Sevo. Then take a big shit. See which on makes you feel best.

              Hint- it won't be Donnie's miracle cure for Covid.

              1. Sevo   1 year ago

                turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
                If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
                turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

              2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
                If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
                turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

          2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Didn't Obama's defenders dismiss all critics as racist, just like how Trump's defenders dismiss all critics as deranged?

            1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

              To be fair Buttplug is very racist, and you get quite deranged.

              1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

                Indeed. It's been my experience that people on the left are among the most racist I've ever encountered. They use all sorts of racist slurs on people who disagree with them, and they also tend to use a lot of anti-gay slurs for people who disagree with them.

                They claim to be "progressive", anti-racist, and gender inclusive, but their words and actions are a lot worse that what I see from people in my own circles.

  43. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Gay resigned, but not before calling everyone racist. (She is a black woman, and she claims that that's the real reason people tried to take her down.)'

    And if you don't accept her charges of racism, that just proves you are racist.

    That's some catch, that Catch 22.

  44. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Oxman, they say, "stole sentences and whole paragraphs from Wikipedia, other scholars and technical documents in her academic writing."'

    Who cares about plagiarism. If Oxman stole text from Wikipedia, she is guilty of capital stupid.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

      That's why I suspect Wikipedia borrowed from her. Wikipedia is largely written by aspys who have no knowledge of the actual source material who cut and paste entire segments of news stories and other articles on the web. How Wikipedia has never been sued for Plagiarism, I know not.

      1. damikesc   1 year ago

        Given that they list Wikipedia as the author of all articles, I'm shocked nobody has sued them for defamation.

  45. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    '(Side-by-side reviews for plagiarism are getting easier and faster to do in the era of artificial intelligence.)'

    And students everywhere have a sad.

  46. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'The focus of the Harvard kerfuffle could have been the initial congressional testimony, and the speech double standards present on college campuses.'
    Our betters would never allow that.

    'Or it could've been the intellectual bankruptcy of DEI bureaucracy.'
    Ditto.

    'Instead, it is becoming trench warfare over plagiarism, which seems like the dumbest possible way for this to all go.'
    Dumb is the new reason.

    1. Oafish   1 year ago

      Plagiarism is the distraction. As Ackman has noted, DE&I is the real enemy.

  47. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

    The National Park Service apparently has nothing better to do with its time than tear down statues of old white men.

    More American Maoism at work.

  48. One-Punch_Man   1 year ago

    Hey Reason, no comment about the downward revisions in 2023 totalled an epic 443k. You know the guy you voted for likes to make up numbers afterall.

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Tell it to Genos.

  49. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    What do you make of this? Did Cosby get the Kavanaugh treatment?

    https://twitter.com/BroStreetJoy/status/1744243632016687344

    1/ Anyone remember a certain person - household name
    Convicted in 2018 of multiple horrific sex crimes
    50+ year career completely destroyed
    *Actually* went to prison (first clue)
    & caused media firestorm & nonstop coverage (2nd clue)

    … then quietly overturned in 2021?

    [Bill Cosby]

    4/ Why - with one of the biggest “wins” of Me2 - was the MSM silent on the fact that an (alleged) serial rapistwas allowed to go free on what was basically a technicality?
    There’s an interesting angle here - one that’ll lead to my next point

    The prosecutor who “threw a wrench in it all” was… one of Trump’s defense lawyers in the J6 impeachment
    What are the freaking odds of that?
    The Prosecutor became Trump’s defender
    Do you remember what Bill Cosby was best known for before his arrest?

    6/ Basically he was a massive thorn in the side of “THE MESSAGE”
    Specifically the Leftist message that all bIacks are victims & oppressed
    Cosby had basically stopped doing comedy & was the @jordanbpeterson of the bIack community - telling them their fate was in their own hands

    8/ Why mention all this?
    Well, the Trump connection - esp since Bruce Castor was from PA - is WEIRD & (shocker) the AP doesn’t really phrase things well here
    He said there was *insufficient credible evidence* & he was criticized when suddenly a ton of women came forward later

    9/ But to cut to the chase

    *They pulled essentially the exact same plays between him & Trump*

    No credible evidence to prosecute
    so after she describes a particular MO
    Suddenly there’s a huge surge of women who - surprise - all tell the same story & yet, wait for it…

    10/ All the charges actually pertained alleged events in 2004 - most of which were past statute of limitations

    While simultaneously hitting him with a monsoon of civil lawsuits (33 - all repped by ambulance chaser Gloria Allred)

    11/ Old allegations?
    Unreliable AF accusers?
    Swarming the accused with civil lawsuits & MSM shitstorms non-stop?
    Remind you of anything?
    This crazy bitch maybe? [Jean Carroll]
    Along with 25 others who couldn’t prove anything?
    & let’s not forget Justice Kavanaugh
    It’s the SAME PLAYBOOK…

    13/ In short I’m suggesting
    [They] screwed Cosby b/c he was a roadblock to their progressive shit
    So they didn’t kiII him: they destroyed any moral high ground he had as “America’s Dad” & that he was (IMO) spot on in his diagnosis of many problems
    I think there’s a connection

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Seems likely.

    2. Dillinger   1 year ago

      believable

    3. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      Herman Cain got similar treatment. And of course, Justice Thomas.

      Any high-profile black man that does not toe the Democrat line can expect to get the Emmet Till treatment.

      1. Oafish   1 year ago

        Proverbial Emmitt Till treatment. Not to challenge your point but his was a horrible end and the others are not worthy of comparison. A tar and feathering is more apt.

  50. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

    https://twitter.com/claricefeldman7/status/1744383167723700460

    CHEM 125 – AFROCHEMISTRY
    Long Title: AFROCHEMISTRY: THE STUDY OF BLACK-LIFE MATTER
    Department: Chemistry
    Grade Mode: Standard Letter
    Language of Instruction: Taught in English
    Course Type: Lecture

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      What the actual living fuck? This can't be a real class, can it?

      1. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

        https://ga.rice.edu/programs-study/courses/chem/

        Here's a direct link to Rice U.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Satire become life.

        2. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

          And if you're interested in femochem there's this,

          https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jchemed.2c00293

          The course explores “the development and interrelationship between quantum mechanics, Marxist materialism, Afro-futurism/pessimism, and postcolonial nationalism.” “To problematize time as a linear social construct,” the paper says, “the Copenhagen interpretation of the collapse of wave-particle duality was utilized.”

          1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

            "Glaciers, gender, and science: A feminist glaciology framework for global environmental change research," has become the latest talking point in an ongoing controversy about NSF-funded research.

            "There has been an increase in women studying glaciers since the 1980s, following the civil rights and equal rights movements that ushered more women and underrepresented groups into science careers. But according to geologist Christina Hulbe, women are still not participating in equal numbers or on equal footing with men in glacier-related sciences, especially at the more senior level. There is a large and ever-growing community of researchers in science and technology studies who have been analyzing science through the lens of gender since the 1980s.

            They keep telling us that gender is irrelevant, then keep harping about gender inequalities. Maybe we can get all those senior-level glaciologists to identify as women and solve the problem?

            What I want to know, is when will we have Afro-American transgender glaciological studies as a college major?

            1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

              Aren't all glaciers white?

    2. Chumby   1 year ago

      No prior knowledge of chemistry or African American studies is required for engagement in this course.

      After completing the course, I imagine students will still have no prior knowledge of chemistry.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        So the knowledge of chemistry will be stuck on them like Black on Rice?

        1. Chumby   1 year ago

          It will be a black eye for the university.

  51. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

    " Instead, it is becoming trench warfare over plagiarism, which seems like the dumbest possible way for this to all go."

    Mission accomplished. Deflect and redirect.

  52. Dillinger   1 year ago

    T is the person who if there were tapes they would be out.

  53. Scarbo   1 year ago

    It's always soooo well-thought-out, isn't it?

    "I am soooooo mad at billionaires!! They have way more money than I think they should have! Therefore, the government should take it away from them, via higher taxes!"

    And then what, sweetcheeks? Do you think *you'll* see any of it, if they were to do that? Not a chance: the government already wastes 3 dollars out of every 1 dollar they collect in taxes. They gon waste that, too, on some other stupid bullshit.

    Great solution you're proposing there.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      Not to mention the inefficiencies of tax collection the way we do it. Billions of dollars and hours spent on compliance, more billions spend on enforcement.

  54. XM   1 year ago

    Gay's plagiarism only became an issue AFTER she revealed herself as an antisemite in the hearing. Real journalists and sleuths looked into her past. Because you know, she's not a manager at a Mcdonalds, but a dean at one of the most elite universities in the country - and also where antisemitism was seen in full display.

    The left, never one to admit to bigotry on their side and ever willing to protect one of their own from the taste of their own medicine, predictably framed this as republicans "weaponizing" plagiarism charges against Gay. It's sad to see Reason apparently adapt their kind of thinking.

    Let's be clear - Gay refused to stand up for Jewish students in the face of harassment and hate. That is why she had to be let go. The plagiarism revelation lends credence to the notion that Harvard hired her due to her race and stance on DEI. They obviously never cared about the quality of her work or whether she really stood for people of color. But that's not the issue here.

    The media waged war on Ackerman. It's not the other way around. Why is his WIFE's past work relevant here? Does Obama have to make sure Michelle Obama didn't cheat on taxes before he accuses Trump of doing just that? It's ridiculous.

  55. Agammamon   1 year ago

    Can I get money from the government for my unrealized losses?

  56. Ezra MacVie   1 year ago (edited)

    Dr. Jill Biden’s dissertation at U of Delaware will be riddled with plagiarism, too. They all are.

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