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Argentina

My Own Personal Evita

Plus: OpenAI apocalypse, New York's problematic pie, Backpage trial concludes, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 11.20.2023 9:30 AM

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A self-described libertarian just won a presidency. In Argentina, Javier Milei—who proudly describes himself as a classical liberal and an anarcho-capitalist, ran on a libertarian platform, and named his pack of dogs after various free market economists—just beat Sergio Massa, a Peronist, to become president.

In turn, Milei has been described as a "populist" (by CNBC and the Associated Press and Politico), a "far-right outsider" (CNN), a "Trump-like libertarian" (The Washington Post), a "victory for [the] far right" (The New York Times), and, more amusingly, "Wolverine" (The Guardian). Some people have described this as evidence of democracy in peril, as if winning the most votes, after campaigning to convince the electorate of their competence, is somehow an example of an election being rigged. (Sometimes democracy means accepting outcomes you dislike!)

The libertarian "landed some 56% of the vote versus just over 44% for his rival, Peronist Economy Minister Sergio Massa," reports Reuters. It turns out that running for president as the person setting economic policy—in a place crippled by hyperinflation—isn't actually a winning strategy after all.

As recently as April 2020, "$1 bought 80 pesos," reports The New York Times. "This week, $1 bought nearly 1,000 pesos." Milei's platform advocates radical reforms to cure Argentina's fiscal woes. He says he will dollarize the country, shutter the central bank, and force massive spending cuts. In a clip that went viral, he talks about smashing tons of existing government ministries, such as the Ministry of Culture and the Ministry of Women, Genders, and Diversity. He has floated abortion bans and lifting regulations on gun ownership. He says only countries that actively "fight against socialism" should be allies.

He may be thwarted by his relative inexperience, his admitted status as a political outsider, and the fact that he doesn't have a large enough coalition of supporters in government to really pass many of the things he hopes to. His idiosyncratic ways, hardcore rhetoric, and dope sideburns also bolster the perception that he's an atypical politician not looked on kindly by much of the media.

"Today starts the rebuilding of Argentina," Milei said in his victory speech. "There's no room for gradual measures."

Check out the interview Zach Weissmueller and I conducted recently with Argentine political scientist Marcos Falcone on how a Milei presidency could turn Argentina's economic fate around; an interview Weissmueller conducted with Gloria Alvarez and Eduardo Marty on Milei's prospects; the Reason Roundtable episode where Matt Welch, Nick Gillespie, Peter Suderman, and Katherine Mangu-Ward explore the Milei rise; and Daniel Raisbeck's excellent piece on pundits' foolish comparisons between Milei and the Brazilian autocrat Jair Bolsonaro.

THE JAVIER MILEI MUSICAL IS GONNA BE WAY MORE FIRE THAN EVITA. pic.twitter.com/OHxQwBhXVW

— INVESTMENT HULK (@INVESTMENTSHULK) August 18, 2023

Consistently candid: On Friday at noon, OpenAI's board asked CEO Sam Altman to join a meeting. The board of the massively valued company, which makes ChatGPT, fired Altman on the spot. Greg Brockman, OpenAI's president and one of Altman's cofounders, had not been invited to the meeting; he was fired from the board and subsequently resigned from the company.

The board released almost no reasoning for their decision, saying only that Altman "was not consistently candid in his communications with the board, hindering its ability to exercise its responsibilities" and that "the board no longer has confidence in his ability to continue leading OpenAI." Internally, little more was communicated to employees. Chief technology officer Mira Murati was appointed interim CEO, and speculation swirled as to why Altman had been dismissed, why so many top decision makers had been blindsided by this, and what the company's future would look like. (Disclosure: My husband works for OpenAI.)

In the days prior, Altman had been going about business as usual. He'd been widely considered a rising star in Silicon Valley, the subject of attempted hit pieces and lots of lore. After the dismissal by the board—comprised currently of Chief Scientist Ilya Sutskever, Quora CEO Adam D'Angelo, GeoSim Systems CEO Tasha McCauley, and Georgetown's Helen Toner, who directs strategy and grants at the school's Center for Security and Emerging Technology—it became clear that investors, employees, and a hefty chunk of leadership did not support the decision.

Murati and others started attempting to get Altman to come back:

first and last time i ever wear one of these pic.twitter.com/u3iKwyWj0a

— Sam Altman (@sama) November 19, 2023

Late last night, this move was swatted away. Murati was dismissed and replaced by new CEO Emmett Shear (formerly of Twitch), and Altman was hired by Microsoft, which has invested $13 billion in OpenAI.

Shear is not widely regarded as a competent pick, and the middle-of-the-night move is being cited as more evidence that the board does not know what it's doing:

He does video streaming ffs

— Kara Swisher (@karaswisher) November 20, 2023

So, here's what happened at OpenAI tonight. Mira planned to hire Sam and Greg back. She turned Team Sam over past couple of days. Idea was to force board to fire everyone, which they figured the board would not do. Board went into total silence. Found their own CEO Emmett Shear

— Ashlee Vance (@ashleevance) November 20, 2023

Shear is widely seen as a decel—that is, someone who wants to slow down the rate of progress in artificial intelligence:

Hmmmm but I am actually in favor of a pause? Or rather, I'm in favor of a slowdown. We can't learn how to build a safe AI without experimenting, and we can't experiment without progress, but we probably shouldn't be barreling ahead at max speed either.

— Emmett Shear (@eshear) September 16, 2023

I specifically say I'm in favor of slowing down, which is sort of like pausing except it's slowing down.
If we're at a speed of 10 right now, a pause is reducing to 0. I think we should aim for a 1-2 instead.

— Emmett Shear (@eshear) September 16, 2023

Why did this happen? "The board did *not* remove Sam over any specific disagreement on safety, their reasoning was completely different from that," wrote Emmett Shear on X. The board has released no additional reasoning about what Altman might have done to warrant this treatment.

The employees at OpenAI just lost billions of dollars in secondary share sales that were about to happen at a $90b valuation — that's over. Done.

I think OpenAI will lose half their employees, the 12-18 month lead, and 90% of their valuation in 2024.

Just insane value…

— @jason (@Jason) November 20, 2023

Now, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella has poached Altman and Brockman. Several top developers resigned immediately in the wake of the Altman news:

Microsoft just acquired OpenAI without acquiring OpenAI. And made it fully for-profit without making it fully for-profit. Satya plays 4D Chess.

— Gaurav Munjal (@gauravmunjal) November 20, 2023

Lots of employees are locked out of their computers as of this morning. The company is in complete disarray. And Sutskever, thought to be the main person leading the ouster, just bizarrely tweeted this:

I deeply regret my participation in the board's actions. I never intended to harm OpenAI. I love everything we've built together and I will do everything I can to reunite the company.

— Ilya Sutskever (@ilyasut) November 20, 2023

The vast majority of the employees have signed a letter urging the board to resign and threatening to flee to Microsoft, which has jobs available for them:

Breaking: 550 of 700 employees @OpenAI tell the board to resign. pic.twitter.com/PvIG4lM5cT

— Kara Swisher (@karaswisher) November 20, 2023

In short: Altman was removed via board coup, which the unique governance structure of OpenAI allows, with no reasoning stated. Now there's a mutiny by employees who have lost all faith in the board, and Microsoft is masticating the delicious pieces.

I read the news that Sam Altman is joining Microsoft, and the first thing I thought about is Paul Graham's description of Sam: "You could parachute him into an island full of cannibals and come back in 5 years and he'd be the king."

So basically 5 years until he's CEO? https://t.co/GDTSMoNZTn

— Leo Polovets (@lpolovets) November 20, 2023


Scenes from New York:  

In 2008, famed New York City pastry chef Christina Tosi opened up Milk Bar with seed money provided by Momofuku boss David Chang. Now, in 2023, they've finally realized the error in their pie-naming ways:

i hate it here pic.twitter.com/LWH47BcONK

— Mike Solana (@micsolana) November 20, 2023


QUICK HITS

  • Reason's Matt Welch on "the government's fanatical pursuit of [Backpage executive Michael] Lacey" (and why the media have been ignoring it).
  • We should disregard any and all regulations this person comes up with: 

The head of our government's AI strategy ….

"who wants to work on tech policy if you actually have to understand how these microscopic things work"

…. pic.twitter.com/yEx88izgIp

— martin_casado (@martin_casado) November 17, 2023

  • RIP: 

Our co-founder, former U.S. First Lady Rosalynn Carter, passed away this afternoon in Plains, Georgia.

For more information: https://t.co/82bHoZQvkk pic.twitter.com/2exvnQdtab

— The Carter Center (@CarterCenter) November 19, 2023

  • "Is this what a soft landing looks like, or are we simply going from boom into the hard bounce of a recession?" asks Joe Weisenthal at Bloomberg. 
  • Beautiful:

The triumph of neoliberal trade policy, Hanukkah edition. pic.twitter.com/6e2vdbUU1U

— Richard Morrison (@RichardMorrison) November 19, 2023

  • This:

I feel like a lot of people talk about Capitalism the way previous generations used to talk about The Devil pic.twitter.com/JzDkAt5zTr

— Armand Domalewski (@ArmandDoma) November 19, 2023

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        3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

          And that will be the end of them. If there is a popular uprising there is no way the government, plus a bunch of woketards could stop it.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

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        4. Minadin   2 years ago

          Dan Goldman on Donald Trump: “It is just unquestionable at this point that he cannot see public office again. He is not only unfit. He is destructive to our democracy. He has to be eliminated.”
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          https://twitter.com/alx/status/1726642802640220361

          1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

            And bobble head bitch keeps agreeing with him.

            Cuz nothing says protecting democracy like eliminating your opponents.

            1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

              Remember these are the same folks who think taking power away from unelected bureaucrats and returning it to elected officials is also a threat to democracy.

              1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago (edited)

                And they’re supported by the thugs who think that peacefully protesting government overreach (e.g., lockdown orders) is “fascism”. And utterly with no sense of blackshirt irony.

          2. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

            But remember,Palin putting cross hairs on congressional districts that she felt the GOP should be targeting to flip was an actual call for violence.

          3. See Double You   2 years ago

            Here's some of that "eliminationist" rhetoric the left always accused the non-left of employing.

      2. NOYB2   2 years ago

        Democrats and "traditional" Republicans are pushing Nikki Haley. They can't lose: either Biden wins outright against her (she is quite unlikable to most independents and Republicans), or they get a neocon and globalist in power as a consolation prize.

      3. Jerry B.   2 years ago

        The fact that one or the other will likely win (barring a very public mental breakdown or an assassination) is pretty depressing.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          I know, right? Very sad. Why can't we do better than two geriatric assholes?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            And what do you propose, Jeffy? Any candidate you like better?

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              Ya know, your purpose here really does seem to follow me around and troll me and try to bait me.

              So why should I respond to you in good faith?

              1. Uilleam   2 years ago

                Hardly anybody here agrees with you on anything. Wouldn't that make you the troll?

                1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                  No, this is a classic liberal/libertarian site. You Trump Cultists are the trolls.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    You and Jeff seem angry that nobody buys your DNC narratives.

                  2. Uilleam   2 years ago

                    I don't often see anyone here post in support of Trump beyond a rational position. I do see you and others shit post about Trump, mostly ignoring his policy positions. I have seen you post repeatedly (doggedly) in support of the current administration and economy. Logically, that means you are not a classic liberal/libertarian. What are you doing here?

                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      I don’t often see anyone here post in support of Trump beyond a rational position.

                      lol there's plenty of people who deflect on behalf of Trump

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Name them and give citations with links, Jeffy.

                    3. Uilleam   2 years ago

                      "lol there’s plenty of people who deflect on behalf of Trump"

                      All I've seen is you defending grooming of children.

                    4. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                      Hey Fatfuck, take the L, and move on.

                  3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Strange cultists we make. We criticize Trump on issues. Some of us did not vote for him in 2016, others did not vote for him in 2020. No one here seems to salivate over Trump the way some here have over Biden and the Democrats. And only a few have gone gaga over Covid restrictions and the like. Those few would include people like you, Pluggo. Seems to me that you're the actual cultist here.

                  4. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                    No, you’re a raging pedophile who got banned here for posting child rape videos. You’re not even supposed to be here at all. Let alone unincarcerated. You are the troll by default.

                    Fatfuck too. Maybe you two can have a CP binge party and jack each other off.

                    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                      Now the resident sadistic Nazi Elmer is here. What fun. The piece of shit has a Final Solution for every group but his.

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      No, he has a final solution for pederasts like yourself. Most honest, normal people share that with Elmer.

                    3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                      Nazi? I hate all forms of socialism. If anything, a Soros worshipping faggot pedophile, such as yourself, is a Nazi.

                      And I would prefer to leave everyone alone. But scumbags like you make that impossible.

                      Just kill yourself Pluggo. You it’s the right thing to do.

              2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Now, be fair, we all bait you because a) you take it so well, and b) you're an idiot. It's not just me.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          Only to TDS-addled shits

    2. ThomasD   2 years ago

      That is "self described Joe Biden" to you and me bub.

    3. Bill Falcon   2 years ago

      I was hoping Liz would be pumping the massive Hamas tunnels under that hospital.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A self-described libertarian just won a presidency.

    The countdown to disappointment begins.

    1. ThomasD   2 years ago (edited)

      They are already disappointed.

      Only closeted leftists in libertarian skin suits avoid the “self described” disclaimer.

      It is in the Reason stylebook.

    2. Ed Grinberg   2 years ago

      You don't think he means it?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        Like all libertarianism, his intentions will turn out irrelevant.

        1. Uilleam   2 years ago

          Hope springs eternal.

    3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Yeah. Anti-abortion and he wants to keep the safety nets. Sounds like the makings of the Ceauçescu of the Global South.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Ceauçescu was totally cool with aborting Romania's huge Gypsy population.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          Not if they could supply cannon-fodder for his Alexandrian dream of a 200 million-man Macedonian Army. Even anti-abortion David Funderburk vouched for and winced at Ceauçescu's megalomaniacal baby rabies.

  3. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Thinking how different the Millei writeup would have been with ENB.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      "DEMOCRAACY IS OVER!!!"

      would probably sum it up

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Or, heaven forbid, a Sullum Roundup regarding Milei.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        At least 50 references to Trump.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          LOL! Sullum would have more references to Trump in an article about Milei than he would about Milei.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Trump-like libertarian

    The biggest, most beautiful non-aggression you've ever seen. Everyone is saying it. It's going to be a tremendous thing.

    1. Zeb   2 years ago

      He is Trump-like in that he's willing to say outrageous and aggressive things that piss people off. But that's about it. He's actually smart and consistent and principled as far as I can see.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        What was inconsistent about Trumps campaign? Millei hasn't reached the point of dealing with an embedded socialist government against him yet. As Liz states, working his proposals will take work. The Peron party is entrenched in various places of government just like The Resistance was.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

          What was inconsistent about Trumps campaign?

          Drain the Swamp vs Cares Act.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            Best president in the last 100 years ain't good enough for TDS-addled shits.

            1. Zeb   2 years ago

              It's not good enough. Look at where we are now. Tallest midget is still a midget.

              1. Roberta   2 years ago (edited)

                Unfortunately the world is populated by midgets, so the tallest midget is actually a giant:

                https://committeetounleashprosperity.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/CTUP_BurdenisBack_ComparingRegulatoryCosts.pdf

                I mean, come on, negative numbers for change in regulatory costs? And not just negative, but in magnitude comparable to the increases in costs others imposed? Meaning he was as good as the others have been bad. How much better could Trump have done?

                1. Zeb   2 years ago

                  Those things are good. But good enough is actually shrinking the government. That's the standard I'm going to stick to.

                  1. Dillinger   2 years ago

                    (R)esearch and (D)evelopment both fought T every day.

                  2. Roberta   2 years ago

                    Isn't it possible that in the amount of time he had, given the people he had to work with, that was as much as could be done? You do understand the executive can't legislate, don't you? That the regulations are constrained by acts of Congress?

                    1. Zeb   2 years ago

                      Yes, of course I understand that. And I agree that he is likely the best among people likely to be elected president for libertarians.
                      But I remain unconvinced that he has a particularly libertarian view of what government should be. Yes, the regulation reduction was good. Maybe he can do more, I hope he gets a chance at it. I'll believe it when I see it.

                    2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                      Zeb, ot would be a lot easier if Americans simply figured out that democrats are existential enemies and need to wiped out. But barring that, electing someone like Trump appears to be the only viable option.

                      Unless you have a better idea?

            2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

              Anyone who signed off on the Cares Act is an enemy of liberty. He could be the best president in 100 years and he'd still be the enemy of liberty.

              1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

                ^this

                An absolute disgrace. Naked plundering of the people's wealth.

              2. VinniUSMC   2 years ago

                I'm curious what you think the possible alternative was.

                Trump vetoes, bill goes back and still passes basically unanimously, Trump is labeled enemy of "the people" by both sides, during a "crisis". And, we're talking about Trump here. Not a Libertarian. Trump looks out for Trump and only Trump. So, what could Trump, or some other hypothetical person done?

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  A case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.

                2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

                  No need for hypothetical, Rand Paul voted against it and faught Fauci through the whole thing. Came out smelling like a rose despite taking heat.

                  But as for Trump he could have not championed the bill and attacked Thomas Massie prior to the damn thing even passing.

                  And most importantly, he could have put the welfare of America over his political career. But nope he followed the Swamps lead instead of being the leader he claimed to be.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    He wasn't on the 2020 ballot either.

                  2. VinniUSMC   2 years ago (edited)

                    Rand Paul voted against it and faught Fauci through the whole thing. Came out smelling like a rose despite taking heat.

                    Is that so?

                    The chamber approved the plan to combat the outbreak as the crisis started to thin its ranks. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., did not vote after testing positive for COVID-19, and neither did GOP Sens. Mitt Romney and Mike Lee of Utah, both in isolation after contact with their colleague. Sen. John Thune of South Dakota, the second-ranking Republican, also missed the vote after feeling ill.

                    CNBC seems to think otherwise. Maybe he planned to vote “no”, I have no reason to doubt that, but he apparently wasn’t able to make the vote.

                3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                  We probably ought to remember that Trump was not a passive bystander here.

                  https://web.archive.org/web/20201006071716/https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/488527-mcconnell-introduces-third-coronavirus-relief-proposal/

                  Senate Republicans have reached a deal among themselves on legislation for the third coronavirus funding package amid growing concerns about a widespread outbreak in the United States.

                  (this is what eventually became the CARES Act)

                  [...]

                  The direct cash assistance, which is backed by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, earned fierce pushback among some members of the caucus. But GOP senators indicated that it had too much support to be removed from the package offered by McConnell and other top Republicans.

                  [...]

                  The administration has agreed to send a handful of administration officials, including Mnuchin, up to the Capitol starting on Friday to take part in the negotiations.

                  So the Trump admin was a direct player in the negotiations for the CARES Act.

                4. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                  Also:

                  Stimulus package could top $2 trillion as negotiators look to clear final major hurdles

                  https://web.archive.org/web/20200322043902/https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/21/politics/stimulus-package-negotiations-congress-coronavirus/index.html

                  Bipartisan groups of senators worked late into Friday night with top officials from President Donald Trump's administration to lock in a final agreement -- a deal that people directly involved in the negotiations tell CNN could top a cost of $1.5 trillion -- before falling short of a midnight deadline imposed by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

                  [...]

                  The urgency of the moment was apparent throughout the day and night Friday, with senators assigned to specific subject areas cloistered in a web of hearing rooms in a Senate office building, as Kudlow, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Labor Secretary Eugene Scalia shuffling between rooms in an effort to make progress across a sweeping range of stimulus and emergency aid options.

                  Trump told reporters Saturday at an afternoon briefing on coronavirus that "we are getting close" to reaching a deal on a proposal, and negotiators are expected to continue discussions throughout Saturday as they look to clinch a final agreement.

                  Trump didn't veto the CARES Act because his admin was in the room negotiating on its terms and the final product is something that he approved of.

                  1. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

                    Trump should be criticized "bigly" for his part in pushing the Cares Act. I certainly do. But I notice you almost never seem to criticize the Democrats involved in pushing it. Why is that?

                    1. R Mac   2 years ago

                      We all know why.

                    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      I have argued against everyone who was in favor of it, Democrats and Republicans.

                      What I don't do is pretend that Trump was some innocent bystander who had no choice but to sign the deal that Congress gave him.

          2. Zeb   2 years ago

            And covid policy in general.
            At the very least I'd want to see a real commitment to actual reductions in government size and spending before I called him any kind of libertarian. I can agree that Trump was the preferable available option, but he's no kind of libertarian, despite a few good moves.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago (edited)

              But Zeb, you don’t understand.

              All the things that Trump did that were not libertarian, were not his fault. It was always someone else’s fault.

              But all the things that Trump did that were vaguely libertarian, were totally because of him. It was all him. He’s the real deal.

              Therefore Trump is the bestest of the best libertarians!

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Since when did anyone here actually say that? And use citations and links.

                1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                  He’s just angry that Trump really was somewhat libertarian, and that Trump may actually get elected again.

                  Jeffy is an angry Marxist Fatfuck pedophile adjacent sea lion.

                2. R Mac   2 years ago

                  He’s just being dishonest. It’s what he does.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    I'm well aware. If he provides the names and actual citations, they're verifiable. If not, then he's obviously defecting and obfuscating. Either way, the newbies and lurkers can see what he's up to.

                    1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                      True. We don’t beat up on Fatfuck to engage him. It’s for everyone else.

                  2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                    Yesterday he declared that he and Buttplug had a right to lie because people were lying about them being pedophiles and groomers.

                    1. R Mac   2 years ago

                      Lol, doesn’t surprise me.

                    2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                      Even though they are absolutely pedophiles and groomers.

                    3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      That right there is a lie.

              2. Uilleam   2 years ago

                These things only occur in your imagination. Personally, I think we should vote for any candidate that moves us towards more limited government and liberty, even if fractionally. I also appreciate some level of morality and ethics, although I don't expect perfection. I have not seen a similar sentiment from you, sarc, et al. Which is why you are continuously mocked.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  I agree. There is to much reliance on perfection rather than correct direction. With an embedded state constantly fighting, reform can't happen in 4 years when it built up through 150 years. The expectation is just weird.

                  One step is better than no steps, but people criticize government wasn't reformed in a single term.

                  1. Uilleam   2 years ago

                    Rome wasn't built in a day. Dismantling it without destroying it will probably take longer.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Maybe it's six of one, half dozen of the other. I'll liken it to a store remodel. You can close the store down for a full remodel, but you risk alienating some of your customers who want you open all the time; or you can keep the store open during the remodel and work around the shoppers, thus possibly alienating those shoppers who hate being around the barriers and the work crews.

                      Each has its drawbacks and advantages.

                    2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                      It’s either that or take over and start rounding up leftists. Which is probably the only way to fix things at this point.

                      I just can’t see how we survive with millions of aggressively treasonous leftists running wild. Something has to be done about them. Maybe we can ship them somewhere one way. Is there another Australia out there?

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Is there another Australia out there?

                      Send them to colonize Venus.

                    4. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                      Venus? Ok. And if the rockets transporting them go off course straight into the sun…..

                      Oh well.

                    5. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      I figure it's warm enough for them at over 800F, 96% CO2, and a pressure at sea level far higher than here on Earth.

                    6. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                      As for rounding up leftists, just apply the Golden Rule 2.0: treat people as they would treat you.

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                  Personally, I think we should vote for any candidate that moves us towards more limited government and liberty, even if fractionally.

                  But you can say that about any candidate, at least on some level.

                  So the question is, which candidate will move us furthest in the direction of limited government and liberty. And it's hard to argue that either Team Red or Team Blue is going to win on that score.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Well, given that Team Blue tends to have more people who want to grow government faster, and were the ones behind all the Covid restriction crap, I think it's easier to argue than you may think. That is, unless you're simping for Team Blue.

                  2. R Mac   2 years ago

                    What has Biden done to move us to a more limited government and liberty, lol?

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Normalized pedophilia urges.

                  3. Uilleam   2 years ago

                    No it is not.

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago

              His general covid policy was federalist. States chose their actions.

              His operation warp speed and allowing Fauci so much publicity was wrong. But he was anti mandates and left it to a federalist system. Overall his policies were better than what dems and media demanded.

              There were very few politicians involved that were better.

              1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

                I'd limit better to Rand Paul and Massie, just from guessing.

                I despise Trump for a zillion reasons. But that doesn't make him the worst candidate, and waiting for better is how you get worse election results. I live in CA, and my vote makes no difference, so I have the luxury of being able to vote Libertarian. If I lived in a swing state, damn right I'd vote for Trump.

                1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                  Your vote doesn’t count because of the surplus of Marxists. Something must be done about that.

              2. Zeb   2 years ago

                I've never said it wasn't better than the available alternatives. It still sucked.

              3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

                Liz is far from a left libertarian. Also within. T a

              4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

                If trump can get just one democrat to move to Canada it will be worth electing him.

                It doesn’t have to be any specific dem, but my preference would be that pink haired dyke former soccer player.

                A few “cardiac events” among the fauci faithful could be accelerated by a trump win as well (looking at you, Madonna) so there’s a lot to like there.

          3. JesseAz   2 years ago

            I stated campaign. Right now Millei is purely campaign. He hasn't faced the resistance. I was against Cares. I hated he supported it. But it was passed with super majorities in congress so I blame them for it, not him.

            1. Roberta   2 years ago

              Yes, they were going to spend something huge no matter what. At least what we got included a big chunk back to taxpayers, in cash — the least damaging way for money to be spent.

            2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

              His words and actions were for the Cares Act. He could have tried to stop it, instead he championed it. So he gets just as much blame for it as every other asshole. Shit, he personally attacked Thomas Massie for actually being against it.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Bigly yuge boot hat!
      🙂
      😉

  5. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    How much more Russian influence can we take?

  6. JesseAz   2 years ago

    How the feds pay Newsguard to censor.

    https://realclearwire.com/articles/2023/11/15/newsguard_surrogate_the_feds_pay_to_keep_watch_on_the_internet_and_be_a_judge_of_the_truth_992214.html

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

      It’s okay for government to censor speech when they do it through a third party, because it might be rUsSiaN diSiNfOrmAti0n.

      "For example, as is public, our work for the Pentagon’s Cyber Command is focused on the identification and analysis of information operations targeting the U.S. and its allies conducted by hostile governments, including Russia and China. Our analysts alert officials in the U.S. and in other democracies, including Ukraine, about new false narratives targeting America and its allies, and we provide an understanding of how this disinformation spreads online. We are proud of our work countering Russian and Chinese disinformation on behalf of Western democracies."

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Corporatism isn't fascism - jeff and sarc.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          Notice no comment on this story from him. But he’s busy above bitching about Trump.

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

            Jeffy wants a world order in the image of George Soros’s vision of an ‘open society’. Which is his user friendly term for global neo Marxism. While referring to himself as a libertarian, when there is nothing libertarian about him.

            This is also why he and Pluggo are friends and allies.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Also an emergency. And for the left everything is an emergency. Therefore extreme measures are not just allowed but required.

  7. JesseAz   2 years ago

    The link between major news outlets and the Hamas propagandists they utilize.

    https://twitter.com/mishtal/status/1726155955644006809

    1. NOYB2   2 years ago

      Something has gone seriously wrong in the way news is reported from Gaza.

      Looks to me like they are following the preferred government narrative in the US and Europe.

      1. ThomasD   2 years ago

        "Everyone knew Hamas was using the hospitals"

        Yet those same 'everyone' never once noted that knowledge made those hospitals legitimate military targets.

        Because dishonesty is what they do.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Because dishonesty is what they do.

          Exactly. Hamas is like Turd.

          Hamas lies. Hamas lies when they know they're lying. Hamas lies when we know they're lying. Hamas lies when they know we know they're lying. Hamas lies and is full of pederasts besides.

          1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

            Oh, that was inspired. It fits Hamas.

  8. JesseAz   2 years ago

    New J6 video shows Capitol officers firing gas and munitions into J6 crowd before violence broke out.

    This often causes a reaction in large crowds and is against crowd policies.

    https://twitter.com/InvestigateJ6/status/1699455735288021400

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

      All of these latest videos pretty much confirm that the Speakers Office and the FBI took an ordinary crowd comprised of both MAGA protesters and regular visitors and using at least two dozen agent provocateurs and the Hill Police deliberately manufactured a riot.

      Almost everyone we see actually breaking windows and calling to infiltrate the hill have never been charged, most of the officers testifying under oath that they were injured are shown on the video to be lying, and we instead see video of Hill Police ushering people in, opening doors and escorting them to the chamber.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        Almost everyone we see actually breaking windows and calling to infiltrate the hill have never been charged

        Do you have evidence for this claim?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Do you have evidence otherwise, Jeffy?

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            Go play in the street.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Pissy this morning after you got your ass kicked here over the weekend?

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                I'm not interested in your trolling today.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  So sayeth the troll himself.

                2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                  Fatfuck, you’re done. Now GTFO.

                  You’re just a fat Marxist troll that wishes he could get away with fucking children.

                3. Dillinger   2 years ago

                  >>I’m not interested in your trolling today.

                  wins the Hey Kettle, You're Black! Love, The Pot award of all-time.

        2. Agammamon   2 years ago

          Yes. The videos of the protest.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            So, from these videos, you have determined the identities of the individuals who broke the windows, you have determined that these identities are known to the authorities, and you have determined that these individuals have not been arrested or charged even though they are known to the authorities?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              You would agree that it's OK to shoot one of them who was trying to stop another, unnamed, unarrested person from breaking a window?

            2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              I posted some of those videos yesterday Jeff, but you refused to watch them. If you had you would have seen that most are very identifiable.

              Now, go watch them and stop telling lies.

              1. R Mac   2 years ago

                Narrator: But in the end, Lying Jeffy never did stop telling lies.

                1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                  Or stop binging on 55 gallon drums of Ben & Jerry’s.

                  1. Chumby   2 years ago

                    He could gain the monicker tubby

            3. Agammamon   2 years ago

              Yes.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                So who are those individuals?

                1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  Hold on.

                  Are you saying that WE have to identify the people in the videos or it doesn't count?

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                    Your claim:

                    Almost everyone we see actually breaking windows and calling to infiltrate the hill have never been charged

                    How are you planning on proving this claim?

            4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

              “…..are known to the authorities….”

              They don’t seem to have any problems identifying anyone else who was there.

              FFS man, you really do deserve all the crap you get.

  9. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Shocking nobody, soros funds the groups that have resulted in recent violent protests.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/dnc-protests-israel-left-wing-dark-money-network

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Soros: "I worked for the Nazis as a teenager, I have always publicly stated that I have never identified as a Jew (though I think I might be a god), and now watch me give big money to these violent, pro-Hamas protesters"

      Buttplug: "Criticizing Soros is antisemitic"

      1. Uilleam   2 years ago

        Soros was literally a Nazi and is most definitely not Jewish. I don't know how anyone could believe he has good intentions.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Just ask Pluggo. Of course, with Pluggo, consider the source.

  10. Alan Vanneman   2 years ago

    Q: Is this what a soft landing looks like, or are we simply going from boom into the hard bounce of a recession?

    A: Uh, the former. Next question?

    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Fuckin bidenomics rules, man.

      Lol.

  11. JesseAz   2 years ago

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/education/major-new-jersey-education-union-pushes-end-basic-skills-test-requirement

    The New Jersey Senate and state Assembly passed a bill in June that would allow the State Education Board to issue an alternative certificate to a teacher candidate who meets all eligibility requirements except for the requirement to achieve a minimum basic reading, writing and math skills test score.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      … meets all eligibility requirements except for the requirement to achieve a minimum basic reading, writing and math skills test score.

      What other requirements are there?

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        Fictional pronoun usage.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Narrative pushing and indoctrination.

      3. THX1138   2 years ago

        DEI and land acknowledgement pledges.

      4. Super Scary   2 years ago

        Being able to read an analog clock.

      5. Agammamon   2 years ago

        All the rest of the stuff they require you to go to college to get a teaching degree for.

        You don't need to know your *subject*, you need to know the latest teaching trends and pedagogy along with needing a period of observation to ensure you display the right traits and say the right things.

      6. Fats of Fury   2 years ago (edited)

        What other requirements are there?
        The three r’s
        racism
        Racism
        RACISM

      7. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Taking it up the ass like a little man.

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      *cough*Educational Civil Union*cough*

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    We should disregard any and all regulations this person comes up with...

    Reason under KMW is a minion of Skynet.

  13. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    And one reason we like Liz here in the commentariat.

    https://twitter.com/LizWolfeReason/status/1726445410049224882

    Have you considered taking a pill for your TDS

    In reaction to this:

    The Washington Post
    @washingtonpost
    Trump-like libertarian Javier Milei set to win Argentina’s presidency

    1. NOYB2   2 years ago

      So... we have to conclude that Trump is a libertarian after all?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        When the mags favorite libertarian is Polis, I think so.

    2. Chumby   2 years ago

      Liz should hang out in the commentariat.

  14. NOYB2   2 years ago

    BBC and CNN already describe him as a "far-right politician". Practically a Nazi.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      I wonder if they're as good as Jeff at explaining what qualifies someone as “far-right".

      It usually means "bogeyman" or "someone-we-don't-like" nowadays and I've even seen it applied to Glen Greenwald and Bret Weinstein.

      1. NOYB2   2 years ago

        "Far right" means "anybody to the right of neo-Marxists", i.e., the more leftist half of the Democratic party.

      2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        Look who's talking, you don't even know what a Nazi is

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          And what, do tell, is you definition of "far right", Jeffy? Please, enlighten us.

        2. Uilleam   2 years ago

          Please explain what a Nazi is.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            Well, according to ML, I am a "Nazi" because I support limited government, reducing the welfare state, reducing entitlements, reducing regulations, expanding individual liberty and individual choice - but I'm not a social conservative like him, so that makes me a "Nazi".

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              You failed to answer the question and once again deflected.

              Please explain what a Nazi is, not what you claim is someone else's definition.

              1. R Mac   2 years ago

                He’s not going to answer. He’s not going to explain what far right is. He’s not going to answer if the pro-Hamas rioters should have all been killed for trespassing.

                1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                  Jeffy is a typical leftist. He won’t define anything, then use some completely disingenuous strawman to deflect.

                  Hold his fat feet to the fire.

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                  Why should I answer your bad-faith questions whose only purpose is to bait and troll me?

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Bad faith question? You're deliberately obfuscating and avoiding the question.

                    Again, dip, please explain what a Nazi is, not what you claim is someone else’s definition.

                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      In this particular case, the mere fact that you are even asking me is an exercise in bad faith - it is burden-shifting. I am asking ML for his definition because he is the one continually accusing me of being a Nazi. You are flipping the question around in order to deflect and defend your pal.

                      That is why it is bad faith. That's why you asked in the first place.

                3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                  It isn’t. The problem is you, because you’re a vile leftist piece of shit. You are not libertarian. You are a leftist.

            2. Uilleam   2 years ago

              I have not seen you advocate for any of those things. In fact, the exact opposite. Also, you didn't answer my question.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                I have also never seen him support those, but in fact support the opposite every time. He also supports state use if lawfare. Supports jailing those who protest says violence or vandalism. Has stated welfare will end only when people donate enough money that he deems correct. Etc.

            3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

              “I support limited government, reducing the welfare state, reducing entitlements, reducing regulations, expanding individual liberty and individual choice”

              I have never seen you once support any of those things here.

              I have however, seen you support Nazi Race Theory with the villains flipped, fascist economics and corporatism, I’ve watched you defend censorship and political arrests, and support the policies at the bedrock of Aktion T4 and Kirchenkampf.

              You ARE a Nazi, Jeff. An actual old school Nazi.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                I have however, seen you support Nazi Race Theory with the villains flipped,

                prove it, with citations.

                every time I ask you to do this, you refuse. because you cannot.
                because you are LYING. you get a thrill out of calling me a Nazi. that's all.

                1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                  Accusations against you are regularly proven true here.

                  So stop lying. Or better yet, leave forever.

              2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                I have never seen you once support any of those things here.

                not surprised - you choose not to see them

                1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                  You’re a liar, and a pedophile supporter. Your sole ally here is an unrepentant pedophile.

            4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

              “Gender affirming care” for minors, covid hysteria, and throwing open the borders to all the third world poverty that can get here cancels out any reasonably sane notion you may have had about anything.

          2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Please explain what a Nazi is.

            you're a Nazi.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              So sayeth the racist pederast.

      3. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago (edited)

        Bill Clinton on Israel & Hamas

        "Hamas is really smart. When they decide to rocket Israel, they insinuate themselves in the hospitals, in the schools, in the highly populous areas."

        https://twitter.com/SiaKordestani/status/1724131534121374130?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1724131534121374130%7Ctwgr%5E88fcb77194a7cec8a88985d955f419a1ae22c399%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftownhall.com%2Ftipsheet%2Fkatiepavlich%2F2023%2F11%2F19%2Fa-reminder-about-how-palestinians-operatefrom-bill-clinton-n2631389

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      "far right" in journalism-speak means anything that isnt a full fledged bolshevik

    3. Super Scary   2 years ago

      L - - - C - - - R
      It should look like this. Unfortunately, what we currently have is:
      L- - - - - - - - - - - - - - C - - - - R

      Wow! Look how far off to the right that R is!

  15. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Having to force the administration to follow the law and follow through with leases. Rig count not available for comment.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_3a053b52-8716-11ee-b944-3f5f49b1d527.html

    After the Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals' order last week, the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM) announced that it scheduled Lease Sale 261 in the Outer Continental Shelf in the Gulf of Mexico for Dec. 20.

    In September, a federal judge ruled the Biden administration must go through with offshore lease sales in the Gulf of Mexico by Sept. 27 as originally planned and under original conditions. The Fifth Circuit concurred but amended the ruling, pushing back the lease sale date to Nov. 8.

    Last week, the appellate court ruled that the Biden administration must hold the lease sale within 37 days of its ruling on Wednesday. It also ordered BOEM to include 6 million acres in the Gulf that it had previously removed from the sale. Earlier this year, BOEM reached a settlement with environmental groups opposing the sale to purportedly protect an endangered whale species.

    The state of Louisiana, American Petroleum Institute and petroleum companies, Chevron and Shell, sued, arguing BOEM’s policies violated federal law.

    Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry said the rulings were “a major win not only for the rule of law, but also for Louisiana jobs and affordable energy. At a time when working families are being squeezed by unaffordable Bidenomics, I am glad to deliver yet another victory defeating overreaching bureaucrats. … Congress is clear: lease sales must take place; so we are grateful the Judge cut through the noise and upheld the law.”

    LOGA President Mike Moncla said that while the Inflation Reduction Act “promised us anywhere from zero to eleven offshore lease sales,” the Department of the Interior was “only committing to three for the next five years. This will curtail discoveries for years to come.”

    “Every other administration prior to this one had Five-Year Plans that enabled uninterrupted leasing activities,” he said. “This action will negatively impact Louisiana jobs and diminish GOMESA funds that are rebuilding our coast. The Gulf of Mexico provides 15% of our nation’s oil. These attempts to slow, or halt offshore production hurts all Americans at the pump and makes us more dependent on foreign oil.”

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Yet shrike was just giving Joe credit for energy production against yesterday. Sure every policy Joe signs is against said production, but because it happened during his time it counts. Courts and leases signed under Trump are Joe's win.

    2. BYODB   2 years ago

      How quickly the lessons of yesterday are forgotten.

      It's almost like there was a push in the U.S. to get off our addiction to foreign oil. Almost as if there was an example in living memory on why relying on nations at least somewhat hostile to the United States to provide basic energy for Americans could be a mistake.

      Or maybe, like Bernie says, bread lines are good.

  16. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    "Our co-founder, former U.S. First Lady Rosalynn Carter, passed away this afternoon in Plains, Georgia."

    Finally she can rest in peace, free from the constant media demands to denounce her election denier, conspiracy theorist, disinformation spreader husband.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      C'mon Sandra..."denier" only works in one direction.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Real headline,
      Retard progressive dies, a good start"

    3. Chumby   2 years ago

      Was she killed by a rabbit while canoeing?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        That's why you always need to carry the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch with you.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          "Look at the bones, Man!!"
          🙂
          😉

        2. Chumby   2 years ago

          Referencing the time then president Carter was canoeing and started whacking his paddle a rabbit that was swimming towards him. WaPo had a story about it. Must have been a hare raising experience.

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

            Later that day a bear crawled into their trunk. That’s when things really got interesting.

      2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Oh, you remember that too? That was hilarious!
        🙂
        😉
        Southern comedian and columnist Lewis Grizzard had a questionnaire for Jimmy after that incident, with questions like:

        "When you were little, did you have 'friends' that weren't really there? Were any of them rabbits?"
        🙂
        😉

        1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          Was that the same bunny that now handles Joe Biden?

    4. NealAppeal   2 years ago

      "The kiosk in my temporal lobe is shaped like Rosalyn Carter" - Cedric Bixler-Zavala

    5. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      When Jimmy goes watch for the canonization the media puts on.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Ah shit, it's gonna be wall-to-wall St. Jimmy this and St. Jimmy that shit. Never mind that Jimmy fucked up the response to inflation - only good thing he did was nominate Volcker after fucking up majorly. Never mind that Jimmy so thoroughly fucked up Iran that they hate us to this very day - first by letting the Shah in for treatment, then by not returning him, then with the asinine security of the embassy, then with the "rescue" effort. In fact, the mullahs hated Jimmy so much, they waited until the exact second he was out of office to release the hostages. Mr. Malaise Speech could never seem to get it through his peanut-addled head that he was way in over his head and that he kept fucking up the responses.

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

          He did greenlight some really decent weapons systems. Really, he started a lot of the post Vietnam military modernization. Yeah, a lot of those programs had been in R&D before he became President but he did approve them for production.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            True that. There were some good things; however, some of his fuckups were epic fuckups.

  17. Chumby   2 years ago

    For statist Argentinians, thus could get messi.

    1. (Impeach Robert L. Peters) Weigel's Cock Ring   2 years ago

      I hope the country doesn't get plunged into civil war if he actually follows through on his promise to slash the state by half. And frankly, I wouldn't put it past the Obama-worshipping scum in the CIA to try to make it happen if it doesn't happen organically. Every worthless goldbricking government shitbag on the planet has a massive vested interest in not allowing Milei to succeed even a little bit.

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        +2 points for using goldbricking.

      2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        Every worthless goldbricking government shitbag on the planet has a massive vested interest in not allowing Milei to succeed even a little bit.

        This is the perfect summation of the situation in every country.

  18. Zeb   2 years ago

    I hope Milei is able to actually do some good. I really didn't think the Peronists would let him win.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      Just waiting for his untimely death.

      1. (Impeach Robert L. Peters) Weigel's Cock Ring   2 years ago

        If he actually tries to carry out his stated agenda he damn well better have top-notch personal bodyguards, because it's a distinct possibility.

      2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        i think you mean 'tragic suicide'

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          "Clintoncide".

          1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

            Arkancide.

        2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

          He might shoot himself in the back of the head...twice.

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

      I also hope Milei is able to do some good.

      But man that video clip of him above, looks like it could have been scripted by some of our more unhinged commenters around here.

      He'd better not turn into just another South American strongman dictator.

      1. Agammamon   2 years ago

        Because that would make him worse than his predecessor?

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          If he ended up being a literal dictator? Yes.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            OK, if Milei were to become a dictator, what kid of dictator would he be? Obviously not like Juan Peron, and I just don't see him pulling a Pinochet.

          2. Agammamon   2 years ago (edited)

            Really?

            That’s it? That’s your criteria for bad?

            Not ‘running the country into the ground for personal benefit’? That guy was ok – because wasn’t a dictator?

            But Peron was ok?

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              Dictators are bad, m'kay?

              Are you arguing that a dictatorship is preferable if it means a socialist doesn't get elected?

              1. R Mac   2 years ago

                Depends what actions the dictator takes. But no surprise you’re simping for socialism.

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        Perhaps they should have reluctantly voted for the Peronist.

      3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        You’re one of our more unhinged commenters around here. You amd the other pedophile. Plus the shit eater.

    3. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      I doubt he does much good. Pinochet had to go to extremes to get Chile on the right track and what do Chileans do? They vote in a socialist at the first opportunity. The latest, they voted in a left wing "student leader" because their subway fares went up.
      Peronismo, goofy as it is, runs deep in Argentinians.

  19. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Javier Milei—who proudly describes himself as a classical liberal and an anarcho-capitalist

    And a big fan of US Dollar hegemony and our Federal Reserve.

    Of course if he wants a stable currency he picked the right one. Chances of Argentina actually adopting the US Dollar and not just a peg? Zero. But he does claim to be a libertarian so why not be idealistic?

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Of course it's stable. It's the worlds reserve currency, that allows for unlimited fuckery before things break.

      It looks like you understand currency about as well as you understand commodities. Go on, tell everyone again how a low lithium price means inflation isn't real.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        I never said inflation wasn't real - you fucking liar.

        I did say that "inflation" has very little effect on prices compared to supply/demand.

        Low commodity prices tell a bigger story than some simplistic moron yelling out HAPERINFLATION!

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

        2. Uilleam   2 years ago (edited)

          Completely false and you are a lying shit weasel. First off, how's about we start including the M3 money supply in those calculations? Have you looked at commodity prices lately? How much more is a bag of Halloween candy or 12 pack of soda relative to three years ago? Not to mention the endless subsidies skewing the market further. Why are interest rates so high? What does "increasing" interest rates mean? You and others who are partaking in this gaslighting are pure evil.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            That's an insult...

            ...to actual weasels.

            1. Uilleam   2 years ago

              He's either an attention whore or a paid troll. A complete dumb dumb either way.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                He's probably both. Pluggo is a lying sack of shit (no insult meant to actual sacks of shit) who posted hardcore CP here a few years ago and got his original handle, "Sarah Palin's Buttplug" banned while Reason sanitized the thread.

          2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            How much more is a bag of Halloween candy or 12 pack of soda relative to three years ago?

            Those are commodities?

            Okay, you're too stupid to debate. Go back to Bratfart.com where you belong.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Yes, dumbass, those are commodities. They get consumed.

            2. Uilleam   2 years ago (edited)

              Sugar is a commodity. I was providing a "real world" example, trying to keep the bar low, but you still whiffed it.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                Sugar is a commodity. Haloween candy and soda are not, idiot.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  Moron, Halloween candy and pop use sugar; hence, their price is tied to that commodity.

                  How retarded are you, asshole?

                  1. Chumby   2 years ago

                    Frozen Concentrated Orange Juice

                    1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                      Pork bellies!

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

                      I sincerely doubt Pluggo’s even seen Trading Places. He deserves the Beeks treatment at the end of the movie.

                    3. R Mac   2 years ago

                      Jamie Lee Curtis had superb tits back in the day, but she was already too old for turd even back when that movie was made.

      2. Overt   2 years ago

        Pegging to the US dollar is a faustian bargain. You get a stable dollar, but only in comparison to your own country's perturbations. You are basically consigning your country to selling its labor and resources on the cheap to American companies- who get those dollars earlier in the inflation cycle.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          Yes.

          The GDP of the second-largest South American economy declined by 4.9% in the second quarter of 2023 compared to the same period last year. Argentina’s economy has been stagnant for many years, and only saw growth in 2013, 2015 and 2017. In other years, the economy actually contracted. During President Alberto Fernández’s first year in office (which coincided with the start of the pandemic), GDP dropped by 9.9%. In 2021, GDP rebounded briefly and then began to sink again. According to an IMF report, the country’s $22,000 per capita GDP in 2022 is 9% lower than it was a decade ago.
          .
          The monthly Consumer Price Index (CPI) provides the country with information about inflation and the erosion of their purchasing power. In October, the inflation rate rose by 8.3% over September and reached a record 142.7%, the highest rate in 30 years. In South America, only Venezuela has a higher inflation rate than Argentina. In 2015, when Mauricio Macri became president, inflation stood at 25%. By the time he left office four years later, it had doubled to 54%. Today, the inflation rate has nearly tripled, and unofficial forecasts indicate it will spike to 185% by the end of the year.

          https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-11-18/the-daunting-economic-landscape-choking-argentine-voters.html

          So what do they do now?

          Other than blame Joe Biden?

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. Agammamon   2 years ago

          Its still better than what they're going through right now - where his rival candidate, the economics minister, was printing money left-and-right in order to buy the election.

          1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

            "Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr..." ---Printer

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  20. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    The future is not electric.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/20/why-the-public-isnt-buying-electric-cars/

    The sales figures bear this out. Little more than a decade before they become the only option in new-car showrooms – with a ban on petrol and diesel cars set to come into effect in 2035 – electric vehicles (EVs) make up just under 16 per cent of the global market. In the UK, the figure stands only slightly higher, at 18 per cent. That the figure is even that high is down to fleet buyers, encouraged by a variety of government incentives, from EV grants to tax reductions. Private motorists, who represent 45 per cent of the market and get no concessions, bought just 24 per cent of the new EVs registered in the first half of 2023. The message could hardly be clearer: unless heavily discounted, few are prepared to buy EVs instead of petrol cars.

    Parts of the automotive press seem to have sensed conspiracy in this. One senior figure recently asked who exactly has been ‘driving the anti-electric-car agenda’, while a respected publication claimed an ‘increasingly vehement anti-electric-car rhetoric’ had hampered consumer confidence. The truth, however, is far simpler: people aren’t buying electric cars because they’re not very good.

    My old diesel Mercedes, for instance, cost £4,000 and could go from London to Aberdeen, and most of the way back, on a single tank of fuel. A typical EV would need to recharge at least twice – just on the way up. This would add perhaps 90 minutes to the journey, assuming the public plugs were working and conveniently located. That, in my book, makes an EV demonstrably inconvenient. And cries of ‘how often do you drive to Aberdeen?’ don’t hold water, because the freedom cars bring is absolutely intrinsic to their appeal. Perhaps tomorrow I get the urge to cross the Bridge of Dee; perhaps it’s none of your business. That’s freedom for you, and EVs curtail it.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Cars will never be popular, we are still selling buggy whips!

      /somebody, I’m sure, back in 1920

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Electric vehicles were tried at that time and consistently found wanting.

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          Fun fact: The first EV predates The Pony Express by a couple of decades.

        2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

          Not enough places to recharge it.

      2. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

        That might be a convincing retort, if it addressed the actual point being made. Specifically, EVs fail to deliver on key measures that people value.

        If the government were talking about banning horses and buggies when there were few if any gas stations and automobiles couldn't go a dozen miles between fuelings, people would rightly be dismissive.

      3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

        The sale of Buggy Whips will be banned by 1835.

      4. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        They still are selling buggy whips, just for the BDSM market.
        🙂
        😉

        1. MK Ultra   2 years ago

          Also for public elementary school teachers and one Oregon office-seeker.

    2. Agammamon   2 years ago

      How are we supposed to buy an electric car - charged at home - when we're supposed to be reducing our home electricity usage.

      Charging a car overnight could equal your AC bill *in places where solar isn't viable*!

    3. Sevo   2 years ago

      Further, there is nowhere close to the electric generation capacity such a conversion would require and not nearly the time to construct such, even if we knew how to do so.
      The entire 'all electric by20XX' is political grandstanding.

      1. BYODB   2 years ago

        ^ This can't be repeated enough.

        Politicians are banning the most ubiquitous type of vehicle on the planet in favor of electric cars, but they are actively destroying electric generative capacity in the United States.

        Expanding by orders of magnitude the amount of electricity demand while actively gutting the supply has but one predictable result.

        Either the people pushing this are abjectly retarded, or this is an intentional skyrocketing of electric prices which will ensure people can't cool or heat their homes, use the internet or computers generally, or even travel.

        People should be incredibly concerned about this trend, but apparently there are enough people that think the outlet in their home is actually magic.

        What the politicians don't seem to realize is that they are going to be the one's left holding the bag when the first world unravels, and there will be people hanging from lamp posts when the public realize what was done to them.

      2. Zeb   2 years ago

        Anyone not saying we need to start building tons of nuclear right now cannot be taken seriously on this at all.

        1. BYODB   2 years ago

          Yes, and they should have started ten or fifteen years ago if this was actually a serious plan. The fact they didn't, and have actually reduced energy supply since then, tells you they either aren't serious or have nefarious aims. I suppose 'both' is an option too, but somehow I don't think 'malice' and 'incompetence' overlap on this one.

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

            We will have plenty of energy to go around here in the US once we remove the democrat Marxist portion of the population

      3. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

        Also, how the hell would we deliver the power? We don't have the delivery infrastructure; nowhere close.

    4. mad.casual   2 years ago

      And cries of ‘how often do you drive to Aberdeen?’ don’t hold water, because the freedom cars bring is absolutely intrinsic to their appeal.

      Also, if you wanted to finish the drive back from Aberdeen to London, a $7 plastic jerrycan that fits in the trunk/boot with room to spare, (or several if you want to go back to Aberdeen and then back to London again) solves the issue.

      1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

        If you need that space to store the gas cans, what are you going to do with the bear?

  21. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Delicious irony.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/california-democratic-convention-shut-down-ceasefire-demonstrators

    The California Democratic Party shut down its convention on Saturday after thousands of demonstrators mobbed the venue, staging a sit-in in the lobby, heckling speakers, blocking roads and condemning "Genocide Joe" Biden, all in an effort to urge party leaders to support a ceasefire in the Israel-Gaza war.

    The incident is the second prominent display of rage against the Democratic Party in just in the last week by people sympathetic to the Palestinian side. On Wednesday, protesters surrounded Democratic National Committee headquarters while members of Congress were inside for a campaign reception. Legislators were rushed into the basement as police pulled and shoved protesters away from the building.

    Among those who were the focus of protesters' wrath were Katie Porter and Adam Schiff, who are both running for Senate and who have both opposed calls for Israel to pursue a ceasefire.

    Some convention delegates were sympathetic to the protest. "A lot of people who are Democrats have lost faith in the party," Sameena Husman told CBS 13. "We need to stand up and say we're not going to stand for this, and we have to have a cease-fire."

    Meanwhile, the Democratic National Committee must be shuddering at the ongoing trend of young protesters targeting party events. They can only hope that the current Israel-Gaza war subsides before next year's Democratic national convention in Chicago -- the same city in which the party's 1968 convention was swarmed by tens of thousands of protestors agitating against the Vietnam War.

    Deja vu all over again?

    1. Jerry B.   2 years ago (edited)

      I always enjoy Democrats eating their own.

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

        I wonder what happened?

        How many Democrats turned against FDR regarding his response to the attack on Pearl Harbor?

  22. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago (edited)

    He says only countries that actively “fight against socialism” should be allies.

    Going it alone then.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Stop acting like liber land doesn't exist

  23. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    No, Oracle of Dogdick, Georgia, the economy sucks.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/yes-americans-are-struggling-financially-just-ask-these-folks

    Oscar Taylor is scrambling to cover household expenses for the first time in his adult life.

    "It has gotten so dismal that my wife is planning on looking for work after the new year," said Mr. Taylor, owner of Barrett Rifles in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.

    He said his wife hasn't had to work a job since the birth of their first child nearly seven years ago.

    Sioux Falls has additional challenges. The city has a population of about 200,000 people, and Mr. Taylor said it's been hit by a "slew of layoffs."

    This is compounded by the "ever-increasing prices" of grocery staples like eggs, milk, and bread. Mr. Taylor says some everyday items have nearly doubled in price over the past few years, and wages aren't keeping up.

    One survey noted 70 percent of Americans are feeling stressed about their personal finances. And an August analysis revealed that 54 percent of mothers have a hard time finding a job that accommodates the dual task of raising children.

    "We have had to make the choice. Pay our bills or save money. We've obviously chosen to pay our bills, but had to stop contributing to our retirement fund for the time being," Mr. Taylor told The Epoch Times.

    One in every three U.S. workers says they're "significantly behind" on retirement savings, according to a September Bankrate analysis. Nearly a quarter of Americans couldn't contribute to their retirement savings at all in 2022 or 2023.

    John Lin, owner of JB Motor Works in Philadelphia, said he's felt the "downward trend" of the U.S. economy on multiple levels.

    "As a small business owner, saving money has always been a bit of a challenge. But it's certainly become much harder with the increased cost of utilities, rent, and other general expenses," Mr. Lin told The Epoch Times.

    "The pie has effectively gotten smaller, while slices needed from it have gotten bigger."

    Mr. Lin said that with the increased cost of car parts for his business over the past year, he's been forced to increase service prices. But, he also sympathizes with his customers, since he's in the same boat, paying inflated prices on everything from food to housing and utilities.

    "Besides increased service costs, we've seen decreased customer visits as people now try to cut back on expenses and are more hesitant to invest in car repairs. As the owner, that directly affects my income stream and overall financial stability," Mr. Lin said.

    In general, under the Biden administration Americans have higher credit card debt, fewer savings, and a housing crisis that has only worsened since the COVID-19 pandemic.

    "To be sure, the high inflation of the past 2-plus years has done lots of economic damage," Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, posted on X, formerly Twitter.

    Mr. Zandi said that in July this year the average American household spent $202 more than in July 2022 and a staggering $709 more than July 2021.

    Research shows just 43 percent of U.S. adults have enough in a savings account to cover a $1,000 emergency bill. In August, 61 percent of adults said they're barely making it between pay periods, according to a CNBC poll of 4,000 people.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      Can't wait to hear Fatass Donnie's plan to stave off worldwide inflation.

      Wait! - he has no fucking clue about that subject. In fact, the GOP House can't muster one up either - even a fake one like the "Inflation Reduction Act" that did nothing to address the issue.

      American voters liked their $1400/per person welfare checks from Donnie - that is for sure.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        American voters liked their $1400/per person welfare checks from Donnie – that is for sure.

        You mean the Democratic Congress (House and Senate).

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          The Senate in 2019-2020 was Republican you imbecile.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit

      2. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      Fatass Donnie's economic plan is MORE DEBT. After all he is the self-proclaimed King of Debt.

      How does more debt impact inflation?

      And I know - Senile Joe has no plan either. They both suck.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        I like how you still pretend Covid was Trump's idea. Shows how much you are flailing and how desperate you are to protect democrats.

  24. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    "Transhausen By Proxy"

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tranhausen-proxy-parents-personality-disorders-driving-surge-trans-kids-psychiatrists

    Playing a role in the sudden rise of transgender children may be "transhausen by proxy," a term coined for narcissistic parents who push so-called "gender transitioning" on their children, some experts say.

    Celebrities are increasingly in the limelight with announcements about their children who come out as transgender or nonbinary. Nonbinary individuals identify as neither male nor female.

    "Transhausen by proxy" isn't an officially recognized psychological condition. It's a play on an official condition known as Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy (MSBP). MSBP is a mental illness that's also sometimes called medical child abuse or factitious disorder imposed on others. It's exhibited mostly by women seeking attention by exaggerating or making up an illness of children or others in their care.

    They point to headlines like the one on Pride.com in May, which gushes: "15 Celebs Who Are Out & Proud of Their Trans & Nonbinary Kids." The article praises stars such as Cher, Sade, Jennifer Lopez, and Charlize Theron for supporting their children who reject their biological sex.

    Parents routinely post on social media cheering their children's transition or advocating for "transgender rights." Some parents have been featured in news articles for fleeing red states that block transgender procedures for children and moving to blue states where "gender-affirming care" is allowed.

    The increase in cases of gender dysphoria and families with multiple transgender children have led some medical and mental health professionals to suspect psychological illness, such as narcissistic personality disorder, is involved.

    Dr. Erica Li is a pediatrician in Spokane, Washington, who considers herself an old-school liberal. She's not necessarily against gender transitioning. Early in her career, she considered becoming a pediatrician specializing in gender dysphoria.

    However, she began to question why doctors were advocating for medical procedures to transition children without solid scientific evidence that the procedures came with an overwhelming benefit for their young patients, she told The Epoch Times.

    If the cause of gender dysphoria is unknown in a patient and the prognosis of treatment is uncertain, then radical treatment with morbid side effects isn't justified, she said.

    Until recently, gender dysphoria was rare and occurred mainly in young males. Left untreated, the condition often resolves naturally after puberty. In some cases, children struggling with gender dysphoria turned out to be gay, according to studies.

    Mothers, in particular, may use the attention from having a transgender child to climb the social hierarchy, she said. She's not the only medical professional to feel this way. MSBP in parents has been described by insiders working in gender clinics in the United States and abroad, Dr. Li said. The condition is associated with what's known in personality research as the "Dark Triad," she said.

    In a July article appearing in LGBT Courage Coalition, Ms. Reed wrote about how children at the clinic were the victims of "one parent's own psychological needs."

    "As horrible as this is to say, I did see parents (primarily moms) who showed signs of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy," Ms. Reed wrote.

    "Often the dads were fighting for the most reasonable things—more time in therapy, therapy with a provider who would actually explore where his child's desire to escape his or her own body was coming from, time to allow mental health professionals to do proper psychotherapy."

    1. Jerry B.   2 years ago

      I always figured that the trans movement among kids was more for the parents to enhance their Progressive cred.

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        For young children I can't imagine it's anything else outside of the very rare case of legitimate gender dysphoria among children. For teenage girls social contagion seems like the most plausible answer.

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        Not entirely true, the parents of the "tranny" tlc show made millions of dollars by ruining their sons life

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      “Transhausen By Proxy”

      I'm keeping that.

    3. BYODB   2 years ago


      The increase in cases of gender dysphoria and families with multiple transgender children have led some medical and mental health professionals to suspect psychological illness, such as narcissistic personality disorder, is involved.

      Yes, this is far more likely than anything else I've seen on the subject.

      Another possible factor, that I haven't even seen mentioned credibly, is some kind of new environmental factor. I've seen a few 'studies' that tried to draw some conclusions on possible environmental factors, but so far the psychological needs of the parents seem to be the most likely cause of what is apparently an explosion of mental illness regarding gender specifically.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        It's the gay frogs. Dr. Alex Jones told me so.

    4. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      Back in the early 1990's, what some today call nonbinary were simply called weird.

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        Androgynous

      2. Zeb   2 years ago

        Yeah. In the 90s when I was in high school I hung around with a lot of punks and weirdos and art-fags. That's exactly the kind of people I see adopting these labels now.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          the 1980s has been rewritten because its truths dispel today's notions of racism, androgyny and capitalism.

        2. tracerv   2 years ago

          Remember "It's Pat" on SNL?

    5. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

      I doubt the children of all the celebutards are really trannies. More likely their parents are using them to virtue signal and prop up their careers.

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        Kind of like the arranged marriages of stars back in the Studio System days.

        1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

          With added child abuse!

          1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

            Beard by proxy.

  25. Agammamon   2 years ago

    1. Who TF wants to eat 'milk bar' anything, let alone a pie?

    2. Who TF thinks 'crack pie' is too insensitive but 'milk bar' - the bar known for serving milk laced with drugs and the favorite hangout of droogs to get high before going out to assualt, rape, and murder?

    1. Jerry B.   2 years ago (edited)

      I guess it depends on what sort of crack you’re eating. And how well you do it.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        And who’s.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Hunters lawyers threatened them with false advertising.

    3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

      It’s a great companion to a milk steak.

  26. Agammamon   2 years ago

    "In short: Altman was removed via board coup, which the unique governance structure of OpenAI allows, with no reasoning stated. Now there's a mutiny by employees who have lost all faith in the board, and Microsoft is masticating the delicious pieces."

    Almost like it was orchestrated by a Machiavellian master manipulator with super-human theory-of-self . . .

  27. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    Derek Chauvin: still a murderer

    https://thehill.com/homenews/4318639-supreme-court-declines-review-derek-chauvins-george-floyd-murder-conviction/

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Are you sure? Maybe that guy was trespassing.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        And, according to Jeffy, it's OK to shoot to kill trespassers.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Just tell Jeffy that Floyd had a MAGA hat.

  28. Knutsack   2 years ago

    Is that a picture of Gillespie when he doesn't comb his hair?

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      It's his long lost Castilian-speaking clone.

  29. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    In this case, I think the young'ins are right.

    Young voters blame social media for divisions in US: Survey

    https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4318552-young-voters-blame-social-media-divisions-poll/

    A plurality of young voters say they hold social media responsible for divisions among Americans, according to a survey released Monday.

    A Quinnipiac University poll asked U.S. registered voters to select one of four options to blame for the divisions in the country. Overall, 35 percent blamed social media, 32 percent blamed political leaders, 28 percent blamed cable news channels and only 1 percent blamed other countries.

    Forty-five percent of voters 18-34 years old blamed social media. They were roughly split between the other two dominant groups, with 27 percent blaming cable news and 26 percent blaming political leaders.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      So of course, the US was a place of peace and harmony prior to the invention of social media, whether it be in the 1860s or 1960s.

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

        Remember when Twitter and Facebook used to append a notice anyone someone posted about COVID or the 2020 election.

        Imagine if such social media platforms existed back then.

        - 1850's: slaves receive free food, housing, and medical care. For more information about slavery, click here...

        - 1960's: the North Vietnamese are Communists and allies of the Soviet Union, and they started the war in Vietnam. For the truth, click here...

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      What do young people know about anything?

    3. Agammamon   2 years ago

      Not themselves, of course. Those people who aren't listening to the same Tiktokers they are and thus have horrible, uneducated, opinions on everything.

    4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Figuring out who to blame is the most important thing when Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair.

  30. Minadin   2 years ago

    "As recently as April 2020, "$1 bought 80 pesos," reports The New York Times. "This week, $1 bought nearly 1,000 pesos.""

    When I lived there, which was admittedly a while back, $1 US bought $1 ARG.

  31. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    Good idea

    6 in 10 hoping to avoid politics at Thanksgiving: Survey

    https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4318496-avoid-politics-thanksgiving-survey-2024/

  32. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    Be careful when traveling this week

    20M at risk of severe storms, possible tornadoes ahead of Thanksgiving

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4318651-severe-storms-possible-tornadoes-texas-louisiana/

  33. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    Colorado court found that Trump is an insurrectionist.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/4318515-a-colorado-court-makes-it-official-trump-is-an-insurrectionist/

    Personally I don't think that is an apt description of him. "Irresponsible and reckless narcissist" seems to do the trick.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      So you pick an article that is written by two very left Democrats with massive TDS. Let's look at the actual makeup of the Colorado Supreme Court, shall we?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Supreme_Court

      Oh, look, it's all Democrats. So calling Trump an insurrectionist, even through they had no valid reason to keep him off the ballot is more or less just slander in a legal document.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        And doing so without a judicial process that does not include findings or adversarial review. It is the lefts new playbook as seen in the various NY cases. Decide all the facts before trial without any questions or reliance on experts.

        1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

          Letting the democrat party continue to exist is no longer a viable option.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Factio Democratica delenda est.

    2. Agammamon   2 years ago

      Yet Biden still ran for President.

    3. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      Here is Jack Marshall.

      https://ethicsalarms.com/2023/11/20/more-capitol-riot-roshomon/

      But Facts Don’t Matter to the Trump-Deranged, of which either the judge is a card-carrying member or is just trying to please them. The evidence of that is her citing as evidence for the “insurrection” smear that “Trump undertook efforts to undermine the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election well in advance of the election, making accusations of widespread corruption, voter fraud, and election rigging.” The Wuhan panic-fueled effort by Democrats to remove multiple safeguards against voter fraud and other threats to a fair election were suspicious well before November 8, 2020. Trump’s warnings were fair and justified, if not phrased with the precision and moderation some might have wished.

      Wallace’s 102-page ruling was both cowardly and incompetent. She didn’t have the guts to go ahead and hold Trump legally accountable for an insurrection, so she libeled him with dicta, giving the Axis of Unethical Conduct (the “resistance,” Democrats and the mainstream media) a chance to shout, “See? We told you so!” Now watch Biden nominate her to be a Federal judge.

      Such linguistic deceits now seem to be part of the Left’s strategy in almost every controversy. Illegal immigrants are “migrants,” “undocumented” or just “immigrants.” Ending a nascent human life in the womb is just a “choice” or “reproductive care.” Discriminating against whites is “diversity, equity and inclusion.” Allowing children to be sexually mutilated befor puberty is “gender-affirming care.” Letting convicted criminals go free is “restorative justice.” Hamas terrorists are “freedom fighters,” and the Capitol riot was an “insurrection.”

    4. Super Scary   2 years ago

      "Sometimes it is possible to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat in the world of law and politics. Friday’s Colorado court decision refusing to apply the 14th Amendment to disqualify former President Donald Trump from appearing on the Republican presidential primary ballot in Colorado is just such a moment. "

      Ah, so this is just an article that is trying to cope with the fact they weren't able to get what they want. How droll.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        But Lying Jeffy isn’t a lefty for peddling it.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          Look at you, trashing me and trolling me in almost every comment, while you refuse to comment on issues of substance.

          Why is that, R Mac?

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

            He does. He’s just not letting you endlessly sea lion him. Like the rest of us, R Mac is tired of your shit.

          2. R Mac   2 years ago

            You posted three straight posts without me responding, so that’s a lie. I also comment on issues of substance, so another lie.

            Two lies in one small post. Impressive.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              You posted three straight posts without me responding, so that’s a lie.

              When I wrote

              Look at you, trashing me and trolling me in almost every comment

              I'm referring to YOUR comments, not mine. You should have been able to figure that out from the context, especially since I made a big deal of pointing out that 90% of your posts involved me. So I am not surprised you deliberately misinterpreted my comment so as to generate a figleaf excuse to call me a liar, because you are a troll.

              So I would appreciate an apology for your false accusation here.

  34. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    Uh-oh, Best Korea is up to some missile-launching again.

    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4318507-north-korea-south-korea-warned-launch-spy-satellite/

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      You think North Korea is "best" Korea?

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/best-korea

    2. Agammamon   2 years ago

      Interesting.

      But still - Biden is better than Trump, right? Right?

      Because Biden isn't a 'dictator'. No. Not all all. He just *tells people what to do*. Totally different.

  35. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    GM pulls its self-driving auto fleet, Cruise CEO resigns. Not looking good for self-driving cars.

    https://thehill.com/business/4318429-gm-cruise-self-driving-cars-ceo-kyle-vogt-resigns/

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      They, like you, are not ready for real life.

  36. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    Well, this should make the Trump supporters around here happy.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/race-politics/4315607-2024-parties-should-prioritize-black-men/

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

      “Black men are suffering from higher unemployment rates; Black men are struggling to figure out how to feed their families; they are figuring out how to show up and be supportive of their community,” Clanton told The Hill.

      But the Democratic Party is not speaking to these issues.

      Instead, Democrats’ focus recently has been on issues such as abortion and LGBTQ rights, said Darryn Harris, former chief of staff to former Rep. Karen Bass (D-Calif.) and a candidate for California state Senate.

      Black men are more critical of the Democratic Party, Harris said, in part because of the promises they make but fail to keep.

      It’s not just Trump, it’s across the board. (As an aside, blockquote is acting up again.)

    2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

      Black men had historically low levels of unemployment under Trump.

  37. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    Uh-oh. Fighting at another hospital in Gaza.

    https://thehill.com/policy/international/4318345-heavy-fighting-reported-around-another-gaza-hospital/

    Wonder how many tunnels they will find under this one.

    1. Zeb   2 years ago

      Not too surprising. Hamas and their ilk have made it quite clear over the years that they have no qualms with using Palestinian civilians as human shields.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        Bill Clinton on Israel & Hamas

        "Hamas is really smart. When they decide to rocket Israel, they insinuate themselves in the hospitals, in the schools, in the highly populous areas."

  38. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    And here we go, now we see where ML gets the line that Moms for Liberty is just going after "porn" in schools.

    https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/moms-for-liberty-atlanta-town-hall-election-rcna125415

    Another Republican lawmaker, state Sen. Greg Dolezal, accused the Journal-Constitution of fearmongering about conservatives’ educational assault, saying: “The AJC tells the story that ‘Oh, you just want to lock librarians in jail.’ No, I just don’t want my kids given pornography in school.”

    As I demonstrated yesterday, they are going after much more than "porn", they are going after all sorts of books that they deem to be inappropriate by whatever standards that they dream up. But, they keep using "porn" as the justification for their actions. It is their motte-and-bailey tactic.

    Motte: "Oh we are just going after porn."
    Bailey: "Actually, we are going after all sorts of books that we don't like, and the public-facing rationale that we will give is that they are all just full of porn."

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      The right opposes the whole Secular Humanist perspective on life represented by modern literature.

      As one, I know that humans are in control of our own destiny. They want us to bow to some long-dead Middle Eastern "prophet" or saviour.

      It is really that simple.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        You constantly lie. It's what you do. You are a pathological liar, and often can't remember the lies you told just minutes ago. You also appear to be ignorant of the fact that everyone is aware of your constant lying. He's also correct in claiming that if there's something in your posts which is not a lie, it's purely accidental.

      2. Uilleam   2 years ago

        Do you ever post anything factual? Please cite an example of "modern" literature. Extra credit if you can justify morality in a Secular Humanist framework. The fact that you can post this nonsense without being put in jail is a direct result of people who believed in God. You are such a stupid dink.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          Modern literature began in the 19th century with the Realism movement - which rejected supernatural themes.

          any Thomas Hardy for example.

          I will crush you like a bug on any topic, by the way.

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            >>crush you like a bug on any topic

            1998 called. asked if you really have nothing better to do with your life.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            I will crush you like a bug on any topic, by the way.

            Only when posting child porn to Reason there, Pluggo. That's the only thing you got us beat on.

          3. Uilleam   2 years ago

            You would need to answer my question first. One citation from Wikipedia is not a movement. And don't demand that I defend my position first, although I can easily show substantial Christian influence throughout that period, in literature and more importantly, government and science. You always make these bald assertions that turn out to be total junk. Most importantly, please show me how a framework of Secular Humanism can result in moral law. Short answer is it cannot. Your Secular Humanism is neomarxist junk science, which means it's the same prepackaged garbage used to justify all manner of atrocities.

          4. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
            And occasionally, he outdoes himself:
            "I will crush you like a bug on any topic, by the way."
            Stupid sumbitch has proven himself to a complete ignoramus in nearly any topic he's ever breached.
            Fuck off and die, you pathetic excuse for humanity.

          5. Chumby   2 years ago

            Ronald McFondled, you such a clown.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Do you ever post anything factual?

          In Pluggo's case, the short answer is "no".

        3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

          I would rather see him executed for raping children.

      3. Uilleam   2 years ago

        Also, you were banned for posting links to child pornography. Go die in a fire.

    2. Uilleam   2 years ago

      Stay away from our kids you pervert.

      1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        Pluggo needs a good doxxing. Then he can focus on how to deal with everyone around when they find out he loves child pornography and rapes children.

        1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          I would be surprised to learn that the people who interact with him in person haven't figured him out.

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

            He could already be on a sex offender registry for all I know. It wouldn’t surprise me. I’ll bet he and Jeffy are both NAMBLA members too.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      1. Your article says nothing about books one way or the other.

      2. None of these books are banned. Not including them in a curriculum or elementary school library does not make them banned.

      3. Jeffy, do you believe 8 year olds should have access to Penthouse Letters in addition to This Book is Gay and Gender Queer?

      1. Uilleam   2 years ago

        Apparently he does believe so. I think Jeffy needs to be on a watch list.

      2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        3. Jeffy, do you believe 8 year olds should have access to Penthouse Letters in addition to This Book is Gay and Gender Queer?

        somehow they never have a good answer here

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          Whose 8-year-olds? If it were my 8-year-olds, I would not want them to have access to Penthouse Letters, no. I think other parents can make reasonable decisions for their children.

          Do you think there is one single universal standard by which to judge what all 8-year-olds "should" and "should not" have access to?

          I imagine you could probably find some set of parents out there who do think that it's okay if their 8-year-olds read Penthouse Letters. What, if anything, do you think should happen to these parents?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Then should those same kids have access to This Book is Gay with depictions of fellatio by minors, and Gender Queer with depictions of cunnilingus and erect penises?

            1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

              ^speaking of baileys

          2. Zeb   2 years ago

            No, there shouldn't be a standard imposed on everyone. Parents should be the ones to decide. If they want their kids to read those books, they can give them to them.

          3. R Mac   2 years ago

            I thought we were talking about books in schools, where every child would have access, regardless of their parent’s wishes?

            Pretty dishonest change of subject, Lying Jeffy.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              I answered the question *as written*. Why are you objecting to that?

              1. R Mac   2 years ago

                It was a response to your post about schools Lying Jeffy.

          4. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

            What, if anything, do you think should happen to these parents?

            In my state, that would violate a law called "pandering material harmful to juveniles". Parents are not exempt, but are rarely prosecuted. I would support lenient sentencing for first offenses. Very, very few parents are perverts like you who would do such a thing, so cases very rarely come to the attention of law enforcement. In those very rare cases, it's usually in the context of custody disputes.

            Teachers and librarians, by the way, ARE explicitly exempt from the law, unlike parents.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              Hey Vernon, are you going to apologize for lying about me yesterday, per this discussion?

              https://reason.com/2023/11/19/will-russia-ever-be-free/?comments=true#comment-10325050

              1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

                Where do you draw the line, Jeffy?

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago (edited)

                  Don’t be a coward. You lied when you claimed I supported an “unlimited” right for parents to consent on their childrens’ behalf. THIS IS A LIE. Just admit your lie.

                  1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

                    So, where is the limit?

                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      I don't need to specify a limit to show that you lied. In that very same discussion, the one where you claimed I supported "unlimited" right of parents to consent on their children's behalf, I also said that there is a limit to the consent that parents may give. Do you deny that I said that? Do I need to quote it again?

                    2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

                      What is the limit, Jeffy?

                    3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      Coward.

                    4. R Mac   2 years ago

                      Seems like Lying Jeffy can’t identify where the limit is, but wants to claim Vernon is lying when he said he has no limit.

                    5. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      R Mac, are you aware of the backstory behind this little feud? Or are you just going to jump in and call me a liar without knowing all of the facts?

      3. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        You understand these 2 degenerates literally support child porn and pedofilia? Sbp literally posted links to child porn

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Very much so. We go after Pluggo and Jeffy not for our sake, not for the sake of those who we agree with, but for the sake of the newbies and the lurkers. Those who may not know of these two; those who may be unaware.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            Oh, so you poison the well about me because you cannot refute the ideas that I present honestly.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              You present ideas honestly? Don't make me laugh too hard, twerp. We refute them all the time, day in and day out. Just because you're highly verbose does not make your arguments any truer or correct. They're still atrocious, dreadful, awful, terrible, erroneous, faulty, wrong, and just plain stupid and asinine.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                You and your pals lie, troll, bait, insult, and commit numerous fallacies. You don't refute squat.

                If you could refute my ideas without lying, you would. But you can't, so you have to resort to spewing crap instead.

                1. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

                  You would have to spell out your ideas first for anyone to "refute [your] ideas without lying." I see you routinely pick some minutiae and argue that point, while refusing to address the main part. (see the conversation above with Vernon, R Mac, and others about "porn" in schools.)

                  You've gotten pretty good at sealioning, similar to Mike Laurson when he was still on this site.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                    I do note that you don't seem to hold my critics to the same standard. What are they doing, if not picking at minutiae and using that to troll me with?

                    But you do have half a point. I do spend way too much time arguing with the assholes around here who will never be honest nor fair with me no matter how much I bend over backwards for them. So that will have to stop. Thanks for helping me realize this.

                    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

                      “…no matter how much I bend over backwards for them.”

                      Lol. Oh lord, Jeff as the battered wife. It had to come to this.

            2. R Mac   2 years ago

              Except you started this thread talking about books in schools, then switch to individual parents making decisions for their own children.

              That’s not honesty.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                ITC's question:
                3. Jeffy, do you believe 8 year olds should have access to Penthouse Letters in addition to This Book is Gay and Gender Queer?

                Troll Mac, why do you accuse me of dishonesty when I explicitly answered ITC's question *as written*? He didn't write about 8-year-olds having access *in schools*. He wrote about 8-year-olds having access, period.

                Why do you falsely accuse me of being dishonest? Isn't that itself a type of dishonesty?

                1. R Mac   2 years ago

                  His question was in response to your post about…porn in schools.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                    I see. So even though ITC didn't specifically ask about porn *in schools*, I should have assumed that is what he meant when he asked his question, and according to you I am dishonest because I did not try to assume his intent. Is that what you are saying?

                    So, this is totally different from those other times, when I did try to assume an author's intent via context, and you accused me of being dishonest by not taking the author's words literally. Right?

                    Maybe, instead, your opinion on what I should or shouldn't have done is completely worthless because you are just here to troll. Isn't that right?

              2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                I also note that as of this moment, you've made 10 comments on this page, and 9 of them have involved me in some way, either responding to me or mentioning me.

                Why do fully 90% of your comments relate to me in some way? Is it because you are trolling and baiting me? Isn't this because that is the only real reason why you come here?

                1. R Mac   2 years ago

                  I was busy today so I couldn’t spend much time commenting.

                  How much time did you spend scrolling through counting my posts, lol?

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                    That's even worse for you. So in the very scarce time you had to comment today, you chose to devote 90% of your comments to me? Is it any wonder that I regard you as nothing more than a troll?

  39. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    October Was A Record Month For U.S. Oil Production

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2023/11/08/october-was-a-record-month-for-us-oil-production/?sh=3c30a5933677

    Does not align with current wingnut narrative.....

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      $5.00 a gallon gas does not align with neocon Bushpig narratives.

    3. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Who signed the leases shrike?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        If he answered that, he'd have to drop his TDS.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Private owners. The vast majority of production is on private property.

        1. Uilleam   2 years ago

          Was that after they shut it all down and used up our reserves?

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Define where. Actual geographic locations.

        3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

          Oh my God. He learned.

          Yet you give Joe credit constantly, why? Has energy under Joe where he had an effect hone up or down? What about permits for pipelines and refineries?

          Which billionaire you love has been buying up land for purchase of energy production while trying to limit production on public lands?

  40. Sevo   2 years ago (edited)
  41. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    a "far-right outsider" (CNN), a "Trump-like libertarian" (The Washington Post)

    If you're an ACTUAL Libertarian, these descriptions would be apt in today's political climate.

  42. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>(Sometimes democracy means accepting outcomes you dislike!)

    this would be entirely necessary if a couple of you would mention the travesty of justice surrounding j6 as well. otherwise it's sarc (the poster not the noun!)

  43. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Consistently candid: On Friday at noon, OpenAI's board asked CEO Sam Altman to join a meeting. The board of the massively valued company, which makes ChatGPT, fired Altman on the spot. Greg Brockman, OpenAI's president and one of Altman's cofounders, had not been invited to the meeting; he was fired from the board and subsequently resigned from the company.

    OpenAI's board asked ChatGPT to write a one-page termination letter for their founder, Sam Altman. The results were surprising.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Chief technology officer Mira Murati was appointed interim CEO,

      The board asked ChatGPT why Sam Altman's role should be gender swapped. The results were surprising.

      The Board: Write one paragraph making an argument for firing Sam Altman from OpenAI, and gender-swapping his role?

      ChatGPT
      While Sam Altman has undoubtedly played a pivotal role in shaping OpenAI's trajectory, it may be time for a change in leadership to foster a more diverse and inclusive environment. Gender-swapping his role could bring fresh perspectives and new ideas to the forefront, potentially addressing any existing gender disparities within the organization. By promoting a more diverse leadership team, OpenAI can better reflect the varied perspectives and talents that contribute to innovation. This change could also set a positive example for the tech industry as a whole, demonstrating a commitment to breaking down gender barriers and fostering an inclusive culture that values the input of individuals from all backgrounds. It is essential to continually assess and evolve leadership structures to ensure that they align with the principles of diversity, equity, and inclusion, ultimately contributing to a more robust and dynamic organization.

      1. BYODB   2 years ago

        Dayum, turns out ChatGPT does progressive-speak perfectly and that's coming from someone who has an undergrad degree in writing exactly this kind of bullshit.

        Yikes, glad I never held a single job that relied on my actual degree. Turns out any PR flack can be replaced right now today!

  44. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Altman "was not consistently candid in his communications with the board, hindering its ability to exercise its responsibilities" and that "the board no longer has confidence in his ability to continue leading OpenAI."

    need to know which side wants Cylons.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      The board agreed to disagree on Sam Altman's continued employment.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        the chatgpt above is clever is that you or chatgpt for real?

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          ChatGPT fo' real, yo.

      2. mad.casual   2 years ago

        There's a Scott Adams cartoon where an employee is begging Dogbert for a verbose termination memo because a terse memo connotes incompetence (and Dogbert sends out a memo "Re: Fred He's fired.") that seems very apropos.

  45. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Several top developers resigned immediately in the wake of the Altman news:

    I'm so important.
    Creating A.I. sans Sam
    is worse than Hamas.

  46. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>The triumph of neoliberal trade policy, Hanukkah edition.

    I once hit a glass menorah/hukkah it was intricate.

    1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      That seems more appropriate for Kwaanza.

  47. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

    In 2008, famed New York City pastry chef Christina Tosi opened up Milk Bar with seed money provided by Momofuku boss David Chang. Now, in 2023, they’ve finally realized the error in their pie-naming ways:

    What was wrong with Crack Pie, what does “privilege" have to do with it? And “Momofuku” doesn’t raise any eyebrows in the world of corporate “naming”?

    1. BYODB   2 years ago

      It is in no way racist to suggest that only black people use crack. Nevermind that the white-as-driven-snow Presidents own son is (or was) a user.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        Wait, seriously, is that what this is about? "Crack" is presupposed to be about black people, by the people that were calling the name "problematic"? Are you serious?

        JFC, why don't progressives just come out and say, "We don't like it when you talk bad about niggers!"?

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          Fuck this company. They apologized. We're done here.

        2. BYODB   2 years ago

          I can only assume that's the case, since there is no other possible reading of that sign as far as I can discern.

          Since progressives are the same group that gave us eugenics and sterilization of American women, the answer to the 'are they racist and sexist' question is 'yes'.

        3. Zeb   2 years ago

          I can't imagine what else they are talking about with "insensitive". Which is just crazy. People have been comparing irresistibly delicious food items to crack for decades now.

    2. Dillinger   2 years ago

      who could resist Tosi wanting to call her dessert crack pie?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        It could be as addictive as...

        Oh, wait a minute.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          through a Revenge of the Nerds lens the idea is hilarious.

    3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      I know.

      How is it "privileged" to know enough about any kind of cocaine--powder or crack--to be able to call something "Crack Pie?". And who would want to eat something with that name???

      Hard pass!

    4. mad.casual   2 years ago

      What was wrong with Crack Pie, what does “privilege” have to do with it?

      "Douchebag New Yorkers assuming they're privileged enough to put rolled oats into a desert and call it Crack." is the narrative I'm going with.

  48. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Milei has been described as a "populist" ... a "far-right outsider" ... a "Trump-like libertarian" ... a "victory for [the] far right" ... "Wolverine"

    not one Hand of God reference?

  49. questioner7   2 years ago

    How "libertarian" is Milei's plan to outlaw abortion?

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      Argentinian babies everywhere will learn to dance the Chacarera and Candombe in salute to Milei.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

      Well, we can slice that two different ways as we have two beings involved here. Most of the arguments seem to be for the mother, but tend to forget that there’s also a developing human in the womb who also has rights, including a right to life, does it not? This would be an easier question, were we monotremes who lay eggs, or marsupials who give birth to little joeys that use an external pouch, but we’re not. We’re placental mammals who have live birth at term. Thus, we have a couple of different issues:

      1. Whose rights trump whose here? The mother or the developing human?

      2. When should the cutoff point be, if abortion is to be allowed? 6 weeks, 12-15 weeks, 22 weeks, or 9 months as far too many Democrats seem to want? Do we cut it off at brain activity, heartbeat, some other point?

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        who also has rights, including a right to life, does it not?

        A right to seize its mother's body to sustain itself? No.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          The mother fucking put it there. The baby didn't "seize" anything.

          Everyone knows what sex is actually for.

          She could have taken it up the bum, played with toys, stuck to oral, but no.

          And even if she absolutely had to stick a dick in there, there are still condoms, dams, the pill and a dozen other ways to stop from getting pregnant.

          But she didn't. She rawdogged a dick and did what 250 million years of evolution dictated would create a brand new human.

          And you pretend the baby "seized' her womb.

          Fuck off.

          1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

            If she chooses not to be pregnant, and is forced to continue the pregnancy against her will, then her body has been seized for the benefit of the fetus. But as I said, you will be unable to see that, because the woman becomes invisible to you once she becomes pregnant. Or, in your case, once she has had sex.

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      If only abortion were a slam-dunk libertarian issue, this question would be easy to answer.

      I recently saw a poll-question that was asked of men and women:

      If you could get 80% of everything you wanted from a partner, would that be a good match.

      Men: Overwhelmingly said "yes"
      Women: Overwhelmingly said "no" as it would be 'settling'.

      Libertarians: The chicks of political discourse.

      1. BYODB   2 years ago

        No surprise from the sex that routinely says 'I can fix him' and seem to actually think they can. Most men are happy to find someone that can put up with our shit for longer than a year. No clue how my wife's done it for 15 years.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          Maybe she got 81% of everything she wanted.

      2. mad.casual   2 years ago

        To be fair, "80% of everything men wanted from a partner" would be a chick willing to get to third base with other chicks.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          double-up on a dude like me one of the better delivered phrases ever.

      3. Zeb   2 years ago

        I'd say it depends on which 80%. Some things are not to be compromised.
        Does this mean men just have a more realistic view of things? Or are just resigned to women being baffling? Almost everyone settles for something less than their ideal.

      4. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        Ask the women, "If you could get 80% of everything you wanted from a cat, would that be a good match? I think you could even get that down to 20-30%.

        1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          You could get it down to 0%. Cats are just safer substitutes for a narcissistic, abusive husband.

    4. mad.casual   2 years ago

      What does women refusing to take responsibility for their own actions have to do with libertarianism?

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        That's sarcasm, right? I have trouble telling.

    5. Zeb   2 years ago

      There are legitimate and difficult to resolve differences on the abortion issue among libertarians.

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        The fetophiles are so obsessed with the "rights" of the fetus that they don't even perceive the woman, so they're incapable of seeing a pro-choice position as legitimate.

    6. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

      It would be very unlibertarian to allow the rights of babies to be infringed. By murdering them.

  50. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

    I feel like a lot of people talk about Capitalism the way previous generations used to talk about The Devil

    To be clear: I do talk about Progressivism the way previous generations talk about The Devil, Evil, Chaos, and The Primordial Annihilator, etc. because it’s accurate.

    – The Devil Progressivism makes work for idle hands.

    – The greatest trick The Devil Progressivism ever pulled is convincing the world he didn’t exist.

    – The second greatest trick The Devil Progressivism ever pulled is convincing the world that he’s the good guy.

    – Faust: “Who are you then?”
    Mephistopheles Progressive: “I am part of that power which eternally wills evil and eternally works good.”

    – The Devil Progressivism pulls the strings which make us dance;
    We find delight in the most loathsome things;
    Some furtherance of Hell each new day brings,
    And yet we feel no horror in that rank advance.

    1. BYODB   2 years ago


      “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

      C.S. Lewis had it right.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      I like how colonialism can only result in inflammation or capitalism. Amazing

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

        The only initiating node is ‘Colonialism’, the only terminating node is ‘trauma’. Supremacism, in no way, leads to actual supremacy, it’s not even on the chart. White, human, and male are all inherent to supremacy, apparently. “Undoing this at every level” would, seemingly, include undoing human supremacy.

        It’s like an expanded, retarded flow chart version of the underpants gnome meme:

        Step 1. Colonialism
        Step 2. ?
        Step 3. Trauma

        And, supposedly, these people have M.D./Ph.D.s.

        1. VinniUSMC   2 years ago

          If it wasn't for white men, Earth would be a peaceful utopia. Surely.

    3. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      The woman who drew up that chart teaches internal medicine in San Fransisco.
      Perhaps decolonizing means something different to her.

  51. block30   2 years ago

    Javier Milei’s video yelling “afuera” or “afweda” and ripping agency names off that board is
    solid.
    gold.

    1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Is that like "Covfefe" is Spanish?
      🙂
      😉

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        No, "outside".

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          Or in this case probably best translated as "gone" or "out the door".

  52. Overt   2 years ago

    I like Ms Wolf, but I think her closeness with openAI (Her SO works there), is leading her to be coy about what is actually going on.

    It is no secret that MSFT masterfully co-opted OpenAI to be its own little R&D accelerator for AI. Many, many Silicon Valley leaders were extremely angry that MSFT was essentially benefiting from a company that was supposed to be a consortium of "ethical non profit AI development."

    What we are likely seeing here is a clumsy attempt by those investors to wrest control of OpenAI from Microsoft. It is backfiring. But that doesn't mean they were not wrong about their concerns. It is noteworthy that Altman had a job at Microsoft within hours of being fired from OpenAI. Very obviously the Board was concerned that Altman was feeding everything to Microsoft, and this seems to be pretty clear confirmation of that suspicion.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Are you suggesting that Liz is a wolfe in sheep’s clothing?

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Oh, good. Because I was developing a Seinfeld-esque “Take an overview“/”It’s a game of world domination being played by two men who can’t run their own lives companies.” impression.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        Ukraine is, in fact, weak.

        1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

          Ukraine not weak! (Upends game board violently)

        2. Chumby   2 years ago

          In international circles, it is referred to as country 404.

  53. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)
  54. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

    Here's a sampling of stupid millennial and zoomer women.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12766887/Millennials-Gen-Z-women-convert-ISLAM-Israel-Hamas.html
    A dope who goes by the name 'leftist queer gremlin' is converting to Islam.

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      do you have to like deconvert from leftist queer gremlin first or is it just a step through the door here's your quran type thing?

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      They deserve their new religion.

    3. BYODB   2 years ago

      Needless to say, none of those people in the list are actually going to any Mosque's to, you know, actually interact with any other Muslims.

      One of them seems to have created their own little Mosque, and god only knows what that nut is actually 'teaching' given that they literally just decided to become Muslim a few weeks ago.

      I suspect that some of those TikTok retards are doing it purely for another avenue of graft from their 'followers'.

      If they aren't thrown off a roof their views on sexuality, they'll find themselves at the business end of a fatwa. Of course, a clever terrorist cell could probably find a use for them as a walking bomb too.

      1. VinniUSMC   2 years ago

        Maybe Artie found a new home?

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      I suppose gremlin knows it is also converting to road pizza.

    5. VinniUSMC   2 years ago

      Leftist, always out-stupiding themselves.

  55. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'In turn, Milei has been described as a "populist" (by CNBC and the Associated Press and Politico), a "far-right outsider" (CNN), a "Trump-like libertarian" (The Washington Post), a "victory for [the] far right" (The New York Times), and, more amusingly, "Wolverine" (The Guardian).'

    FUCKING ASSHOLES. Except the Guardian. Well, them too.

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