Win for Writers Guild, Loss for AI
Plus: IRS insanity, robocop photo ops, and more...

Fran Drescher holds Hollywood hostage: On Sunday night, the Writers Guild of America (WGA) reached a tentative deal with studios and streaming platforms, likely ending the 146-day strike that has brought new TV and movies to a halt. The WGA has won many concessions, like an increased rate for residuals—payments provided when a show is re-aired or, nowadays, placed on a streaming platform—and regulations on the use of artificial intelligence (AI) in the writing process. But unless the actors union, SAG-AFTRA, also reaches a deal (negotiations are being helmed by Fran Drescher, star of The Nanny and apparently a formidable negotiator), Hollywood will continue to be roiled by strikes.
Over the next few days, nearly 12,000 WGA members will vote on the deal, which includes minimum staffing requirements for writers rooms, higher compensation for residuals, and limits on the use of AI-written scripts. If the 2007 strike previewed issues that arose from the shift to streaming, the 2023 strike can be considered a preview of threats presented by AI.
"Whether the union can secure its A.I. moratorium or not, ChatGPT and its kin are likely to change the industry in some way—if not wholly replacing writers then becoming subsidiary to them, to be used as a tool for generating ideas or sketching out a first draft," I wrote back in May. "You think Hollywood feels samey now? Wait until it's just the same 100 people rewriting ChatGPT," the screenwriter C. Robert Cargill told me then.
Per The New York Times, "more than 100,000 behind-the-scenes workers—including directors, camera operators, publicists, makeup artists, prop makers, set dressers, lighting technicians, hairstylists and cinematographers—in Los Angeles and New York will continue to stand idle," so pressure remains high on SAG-AFTRA to also secure a deal.
Unfortunately, the worst news is not the AI regulation or the minimum staffing requirements, which prevent entertainment companies from nimbly adapting to new technology that might prove useful; it's the fact that John Oliver and Seth Meyers may soon return to the airwaves.
The debate stage is but a sideshow: On Tuesday, President Joe Biden will "join the picket line and stand in solidarity with the men and women of" United Auto Workers (UAW)—who demand a 40 percent wage increase over four years, pension plan expansions, and a 32-hour, four-day workweek from the Big Three automakers. Former President Donald Trump, who is the current Republican presidential front-runner, announced a Detroit trip right before Biden did. Trump will be speaking to union members on Wednesday, in lieu of showing up on the Republican debate stage. "Every fiber of our union is being poured into fighting the billionaire class and an economy that enriches people like Donald Trump at the expense of workers," said UAW President Shawn Fain. "The autoworkers are being sold down the river by their leadership, and their leadership should endorse Trump," countered the man himself on Meet the Press.
IRS goes back on promises: Remember when the nation's tax collectors promised they wouldn't increase the audit rate for people making less than $400,000 annually? (How did that work out in 2022?) This was a critical part of the fight over the $80 billion infusion of cash the IRS received as part of the Inflation Reduction Act. But now, quoting from a Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) report, Reason's J.D. Tuccille explains that "the IRS's current default definition of high-income taxpayers is $200,000 and above" and that it doesn't intend to tweak it.
"The IRS does not have a unified or updated definition for individual high-income taxpayers," said TIGTA on August 31. "The current examination coding scheme uses $200,000 as a main threshold even though it is no longer a reasonable standard for high earners given inflation since 2005."
"The report recommends the definition of 'high-income' be revised," writes Tuccille, "so that the term means the same thing to IRS agents as it does in press releases from the Department of the Treasury and the White House." Amazingly, the IRS said no to TIGTA's request for revision; doing so would somehow "deprive the IRS of the agility to address emerging issues and trends." (Note that this is the same agency that was required by Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen back in February to submit a report detailing how it would spend its new $80 billion, which it failed to do until 48 days after the deadline.)
Scenes from New York:
Nothing but respect for my socially awkward mayor:
.@NYCMayor with the robocop, which cannot make the heart with the mayor because it has no arms pic.twitter.com/vuvkmslYwz
— katie honan (@katie_honan) September 22, 2023
More here.
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- South Korea made the subway free (rather: taxpayer-funded) for the elderly. The New York Times documented its riders who wander the city.
- Amazon will invest $4 billion in AI firm Anthropic.
- Canadian-Indian relations sour, leaving travelers in the lurch.
- On Friday, Sen. Bob Menendez (D–N.J.) was indicted on bribery charges; this is his second time being accused of corruption. Six years ago, he was brought up on those charges, which resulted in a hung jury. He will step down from his chairmanship of the Foreign Relations Committee.
- New term just dropped: "A number of experts with whom we spoke said that younger employees are more comfortable with gentler terms like feedforward," reports The Wall Street Journal. (I have some feedforward: Stop embarrassing yourselves.)
- Is drug decriminalization in Oregon doomed?
- AI x Dallas Cowboys.
- Sports writer Ethan Strauss astutely breaks down the Dave Portnoy/Washington Post saga: "Journalism is a 'there are no rules, but you break them at your peril' sort of industry. This factors into why so many have come to hate it. We aren't ordained. There actually isn't a journalistic Hippocratic Oath; we just act like there is. The only real rule is, 'Don't make shit up,' but more specifically, 'Don't make shit up in a way that can get you credibly sued.'"
- Didn't we used to have another word for those of the gestation persuasion? It started with an m…
Pregnant people should get an RSV vaccine at 32 to 36 weeks' gestation in order to protect their newborns from RSV, according to a CDC advisory committee. https://t.co/fyB4S8xsQ6
— NBC News (@NBCNews) September 22, 2023
- Worst headline I've seen in a long time.
- Mouthpiece of the gerontocracy strikes again:
White House Press Sec. Karine Jean Pierre downplays any concerns about Biden retelling a story, minutes apart at the same event, about Charlottesville inspiring his 2020 campaign:
"Sometimes we speak as well from here and retell a story … He was speaking from his heart." pic.twitter.com/9OsvxZjFFO
— The Recount (@therecount) September 22, 2023
- Will your chatbot be able to book flights and fill out expense reports soon?
- Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.): We had to buy a non-union-made Tesla because…it was better than competitors?
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Fran Drescher holds Hollywood hostage...
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Aktually, Fran Drescher was in The Nanny, not Who’s The Boss.
Ackshually, Fran Drescher played Joyce Columbus in Who's the Boss.
On Tuesday, President Joe Biden will "join the picket line and stand in solidarity with the men and women of" United Auto Workers (UAW)...
Stand until a whim or his bladder says otherwise.
Or until he forgets where he is, shakes hands with someone invisible, and then shuffles off in some random direction.
Or until he starts telling a "story" about when he used to be an auto worker and his handlers drag him off.
Look fat. Get back to work.
Joe standing visibly in one place for more than 5 minutes will likely be very entertaining.
UAW hate his e vehicle push. They are going to have to do a lot of vetting to make sure he isn't bood.
They aren't booing, they're saying "Boo-urns".
Let's Go Brandon indeed.
The Dark Brandon will rise.
Only if supported by his handlers.
The rise comes after the falls.
He probably has to take a little blue pill for that these days. Not like when he was raping his preteen daughter.
The media has downplayed that aspect of the strike. Doesn’t fit well with the Democrat’s green narrative.
"...the IRS's current default definition of high-income taxpayers is $200,000 and above" and that it doesn't intend to tweak it.
This is unexpected.
"The current examination coding scheme uses $200,000 as a main threshold even though it is no longer a reasonable standard for high earners given inflation since 2005."
So it looks like all those who 'learned to code' can't figure out how to change a fixed value of 200,000 to 400,000.
About right for a government programmer - - - - - - - -
If Mike is the example of the coders of the left it makes sense.
And he’s a general contractor and lawyer too!
My definition is "anyone who makes more than they are worth" which happens to include everyone who works for the IRS. Unfortunately my definition while true, is worthless.
He doesn't need to tweak the 200K definition. With runaway inflation, anyone with a job will be making over 200K before long.
Wouldn't you like to own a $4,000 suit, and smoke a $75 cigar, drive a $600,000 car?
I know I would!
.@NYCMayor with the robocop, which cannot make the heart with the mayor because it has no arms
"Dead or alive, you're hosting immigrants in your hotel."
Thank you for your cooperation.
If it runs him over - that is enough love for me.
"Put down the loose-y cigarettes or there will be...trouble!"
🙂
😉
I'd buy that for a dollar.
Did you hear? The 6000 SUX EV Edition is coming out soon!
We have been socialists in Sweden and we have been successful, but never at the same time...
No one tell Bernie.
To be fair, have you ever tried to tell Bernie something?
Liz made a tranny reffrence that was not "stunning and brave".
Well Liz I enjoyed your morning links for the time that it lasted, I wish you luck in your future endevors
a shame, I really have been enjoying the work she has done on the dailies
I don't know, I thought this was understatedly snarky: "Didn't we used to have another word for those of the gestation persuasion? It started with an m…"
Which old reason would applaud, teenreason, however, probably hates
Maniacally unstable?
"Matricidal" - ENB
Felony sandwich-demanding?
Biology is transphobic.
*reality* is, in general
Yup. Reality is white patriarchal oppression.
Canadian-Indian relations sour...
Uh, they call them aboriginals.
The Canadians found a ancient burial ground with a mass grave of Christian children... Haha I kid, the Indians ate them, bones and all
It's the native code in honor of Gaia: when you kill something, be sure to eat or use the whole thing.
I tend to use Natives American for Inuits, Aleuts and their close relatives in the New World as well as American Indians. Actually I like American Aborigines even better. Or maybe New World Aborigines.
"First Nations".
South Asians.
The very lost tribe of Israel?
Wrong Indians.
Meh. All Indians are wrong to somebody.
Dot, not feather.
No, they call them “First Nations”. In your case, Fist Nations.
I want to be called Eskimo.
OK. "You're an Eskimo."
In Canada, they're "First Nations." Even though the Eskimos weren't the first people there.
The best part of the writers strike was that nobody cared that these idiots stopped working
I wouldn't call what they do 'work' exactly.
In the 21st century work is optional. And racist.
The staffing minimums are going to be the worst part of it, because you’ll have a bunch of mentally ill basketcases using the writers’ rooms as paid therapy sessions. None of this is actually going to make Hollywood content any better, and they still haven’t confronted the fact that they’ve pissed off so many people with their political sperging the last few years that they’ll continue losing money on their shit productions.
With that said, we should probably be grateful that our enemies don't appear to have learned their lesson.
The staffing minimums are going to be the worst part of it, because you’ll have a bunch of mentally ill basketcases using the writers’ rooms as paid therapy sessions.
C'mon, I've seen a couple of recent shows. That's exactly what they already were, just now they'll be more so. There's way too much entertainment that's just the writers bitching about whatever made them angry last week and trying to pretend it's a plot.
Yeah, I should have qualified that this was happening already, it's just going to be magnified with more of these mentally ill freaks in the room.
That's South Park in a nutshell. It works for them because actually criticize social fads and political bs. Most media serves as propaganda for the establishment.
As for the writer's guild... why would I miss them? Almost everything I've watched the last few years has had the same senseless writing I'd expect from chatgpt. Nothing builds to a satisfying ending. Characters don't behave in logical or even contextually understandable ways. So many details both large and small are too far out of line with reality to suspend disbelief. If there are human writers, then they lack real world knowledge and have no understanding of people.
Oh good I was looking forward to "Slush and the Seven Fettermans"
ahem... the proper term is "neurodivergent"
Ah, "neurodivergent".
Seen more and more on AITA Reddit and similar outlets. "She might be neurodivergent..." or "He might be on the spectrum..." is the go-to claim from people determined to defend bitchiness and douchebag behaviours.
I suspect AI is going to win in the end, either way. Hollywood studios may have an ideological agenda, but movies are financed by investors who at least expect to make their money back, preferably with some profit.
Instead of progressive activist writers turning out more ham-handed movies to try to indoctrinate the masses, AI could review all the movies ever written, cross-reference that to box office returns and critical acclaim, and write movies that people actually want to watch.
And the first such AI penned movie might be called "Rio Dino" --
John Wayne lands on an alien planet run by intelligent dinosaurs, rescues Raquel Welch, and rides off into the sunset, until he see the Statue of Liberty half-buried on the beach.
...Sen. Bob Menendez (D–N.J.) was indicted on bribery charges; this is his second time being accused of corruption.
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought this was Jersey."
He never had the making of a varsity Senator.
A number of experts with whom we spoke said that younger employees are more comfortable with gentler terms like feedforward...
So I guess we're still doing this.
Every day of reading this shit makes me even more happy I retired.
Yeah, I'm glad I'm semi-retired. In my entire career working at very corporate software corporations, only one potentially sensitive sitation came up. I was writing a technical paper and wanted to use “master and slave” terminology, but I knew one of my peers working on the project was black. Long story short, he didn’t give a shit.
What gets me is all the people out there being offended on other peoples’ behalf.
Those people being in your party.
The "saviors" feel they must speak for everyone.
White Knights, so to speak.
Citation, please. And not the GM travesty.
Citation of what, specifically?
Is everything that does not occur in reality a potential?
What does feedforward even mean? Sounds like a woodchipper term. Doesn't sound comforting at all.
Obviously, it must be a synonym for "negative feedback".
Cite?
But "feedforward" actually means something and it's not the same as feedback. Since when is feedback a negative thing?
Since any kind of criticism hurts these pussies fee fees?
What happened was that you couldn't say something "critical," even if respectful and warranted.
So they took the idea of feedback, which is letting an employee know how they did -- good bad or otherwise -- and instead of regular guidance they'd just say that word for everything bad. I was working in a big corporation where it morphed and saw it happen. "I have some feedback" became "I'm going to shit on your work for a while."
That's what happens with peter principled middle managers. Always. Changing the methodology doesn't work, because they'll instead do the same thing using a different word. Feedforward will now be the word for "I'm going to shit all over the work you did" and make people unhappy.
Because actual history is racist?
The only feedback I worked with involved speakers and microphones.
Jimi Hendrix was a master of controlling guitar feedforward.
(Just trying out this new bit of newspeak.)
My advice to you, Laursen, keep your day job. Stand up comedy is not your forte.
Bah. He’s already a cowboy astronaut millionaire.
Why?
This is why jobs are sent overseas.
Is drug decriminalization in Oregon doomed?
The black market has a powerful lobby.
Racist.
Market color is the most important thing.
Black libels matter!
Rofl!
We had to buy a non-union-made Tesla because…it was better than competitors?
It’s true, they are.
Journalism is a 'there are no rules, but you break them at your peril' sort of industry.
Don't stray too far from The Narrative?
Kind of like baseball?
Wrong within normal parameters?
Hmmm 3 stories with the underlining proof that unions are parasitic cancers... Go figure
"...ending the 146-day strike that has brought new TV and movies to a halt..."
What if you held a strike and no one noticed?
What if they held one, and everyone considered it an improvement?
That's every Chicago teachers union strike
If only people realized how public schools are unnecessary.
Or if everyone preferred you stay on strike?
"And nothing of value was lost..."
"Unfortunately, the worst news is... the fact that John Oliver and Seth Meyers may soon return to the airwaves."
I'm really liking this Liz. She's funny, sarcastic and occasionally actually libertarian. White Mike hardest hit.
ya, and the commentariat in general enjoying her style of libertarianism, giving her kudos, really ruins their narrative that everyone comes here to bitch about Reason no matter what.
It turns out we just wanted something actually resembling libertarianism, and not an indoctrinated left wing cat lady whinging about abortion and Republicans-bad fodder
Nope, nobody making any critical remarks about Liz Wolfe at all:
https://reason.com/2023/09/20/5-dissenters-in-the-house/?comments=true#comment-10242797
A Thinking Mind: "Erm…okay. Alcohol and marijuana are pretty destigmatized, but admitting you work when you’re buzzed or stoned isn’t really laudable."
And a generally more positive response to Liz Wolfe than ENB in no way explains all the bashing of Jacob Sullum, for example. Sullum, who writes quite dispassionate, fact-filled updates on Trump's legal problems is continually accused of having TDS.
Sullum, who writes quite dispassionate, fact-filled updates on Trump’s legal problems is continually accused of having TDS.
Obviously you must have Sullum on mute as well.
Dispassionate fact filled – I think I recall one where he asserted “of course Trump is such a terrible person that…” he didn’t react the way Sullum thought he should
I think WhiteKnightDioxide really is Sullum’s sock
He didn’t say nobody criticized her, he said you cunts complain that everyone not in your True Libertarian clique only comes here to bitch about Reason and the writers.
^^
White Mike hardest hit
Poor Mike. ENB is never gonna go out with him.
That's OK. Talking to a living human female might be too much.
"Nope, nobody making any critical remarks about Liz Wolfe at all:"
Liarson Maneuver. There was never a claim made that "nobody [is] making any critical remarks". The claim was that Mike, et al constantly bitch that commenters *only* come here to complain about Reason. Whether or not someone has been critical of Liz (and that is a pretty milquetoast criticism) is irrelevant to that argument.
But this is Mike's standard MO: try and take the argument in some tangent.
Oof. Looks like white Mike was the hardest hit.
"Sullum, who writes quite dispassionate, fact-filled updates on Trump’s legal problems"
Either White Mike has never read a Sullum column or he also imagines his own anti-Trump rantings are somehow dispassionate and fact-filled.
Sullum is as balanced and subtle as Rob Reiner when it comes to Trump.
Yeah, that was a beautifully snarky comment. I actually chuckled out loud at work.
I think I've complemented Liz every time I've showed up but here it goes again. Great job Liz.
I would say regularly in place of occasionally. So far all the roundups have been a major improvement. Enjoy them while you can.
https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1702402781905043509
Oh dear. I hope she enjoys maternity leave enough to keep it going.
Yeah, considering she actively hated her readership, I really never thought her a good choice for this role.
There is no reason to assume the commentariat equates to the entire readership of the Reason morning links, nor to the readership of the Reason blog in general.
Citation, dweeb?
Hey, I thought the purpose of 21st century joornalism is to berate readers who contradict The Narrative.
My reading of the Reason Roundup email that I received when the daily links took its two or three days hiatus and re-started with Liz Wolfe, is that this now her thing, and not ENB’s, even after ENB returns, but I could be wrong.
Didn't we used to have another word for those of the gestation persuasion? It started with an m…
Motherhood is not so fraught now as its concept.
"Every fiber of our union is being poured into fighting the billionaire class and an economy that enriches people like Donald Trump at the expense of workers," said UAW President Shawn Fain.
LOL
Yeah, fight the billionaire class by standing with Joe Biden.
#OBLsFirstLaw
Donald Trump made his money ripping of any bank that was dumb enough to give him a loan, but Joe peddled influence and took bribes in the Senate and the Vice Presidency.
And look at people like AOC. A former bartender who has since amassed $29 million on a salary of $174k/yr.
The magic of compound interest?
She still can't afford an EV that isn't a tesla.
Which is funny as non-Teslas usually cost less. AOC is such a fucking hypocrite.
I prefer "lying retarded cunt".
She *had* to buy a Tesla because of COVID, or something like that.
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What happened next was nothing short of stunning, as the New York congresswoman claimed that the reason she couldn’t get rid of her Tesla, despite claiming she was ready to do so well over a year ago, is because there was no COVID-19 vaccine.
“Er no look our car was purchased during the pandemic when travel, mass, before a vaccine had come out so travel between New York and Washington the safest way we had determined was an EV,” she said.
Aside from being one of the flat-out dumbest things ever said by a public figure who should already be enshrined in the Hall of Fame of dumb public figures, AOC is lying about why she kept her non-union-made Tesla.
Was she worried about going to a car dealership and getting sick? Doesn’t the vaccine work, AOC? Maybe she just didn’t want to drive to the union-made EV dealership alone, with her mask on in the car.
Ocasio-Cortez’s response earned a hefty dose of mockery on social media.
“Oh, yes, I too decide the make and model of my vehicle based on the availability of Covid vaccines,” chided political commentator Tomi Lahren.
She's very frugal with the household account.
they never let facts get in the way of their narrative before, they certainly arent starting now
Glad I wasn’t the only one who saw that and thought: “You’re kidding, right?”
Fight the billionaire class? This makes sense now, they want their companies to be less productive and less competitive.
I wish that group luck.
That has to be the saddest group on the planet.
I've something about the Left's ability to meme...
Is Harry Sisson the leader?
I’ll get in on that.https://www.flickr.com/photos/66890686@N02/51628605881/
Of course he can always pick up where Joe Camel left off. (also called Old Joe) was an advertising mascot used by the R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company (RJR) for their cigarette brand Camel.
The dedicated lefties that either pretend Joe is awesome or are too stupid to know he's not are my favorite.
B-b-b-b-but the rig count.
You Now Have to Earn Over $100,000 to Afford a Typical Home in the US
"Between the steep mortgage rates and the crazy prices, a monthly payment – not counting insurance and property taxes – is well over $2,000 these days"
Only in a big coastal city. Homes still affordable in between I-5 and I-95.
Um - here in the small cities of MT that's not true. A crappy 3 bedroom with an ADU on the back of it by the University is going for 1.8 million. Avg house prices are 550-650k in the cities.
How many buyers who showed up in MT flush with cash came from coastal cities?
Depends. Average cost of a house in the Denver metro these days is $625K. That might not seem like much to the nation's coastal cancer cells, but it damn sure is when the average was about $325K just 10 years ago.
$325k still sounds like an awful lot to me.
A lot of that was exacerbated by a real estate boom in Denver proper. You could still get a decent place in the suburbs for about $200-250K back then.
Average home price in Dallas is, let me check, surprisingly only in the low $300’s.
Not sure how long that will last, but it’s not actually as bad as I thought it was.
I'm about 10 miles south of Houston. Houses by me are 150-450k range. Hell, mine is 2100 sq ft and it's only valued at 300k right now.
45 miles outside Chicago, and it's averaging $281k. Granted, that's about 33% below the national average.
Median price in Davenport, Iowa is 194k. Gas is 3.54/gallon.
White House Press Sec. Karine Jean Pierre downplays any concerns about Biden retelling a story, minutes apart at the same event, about Charlottesville inspiring his 2020 campaign...
Just have to adjust the dosage is all.
Any story worth telling is worth telling twice.
I'm not sure if that means it's more or less likely to be fabricated.
Those are the best stories.
"Any story worth telling is worth telling twice."
Is that what the strike was about?
More sequels!
"Here we are with Pongo's review of "Rocky 5,000"."
You can say that again.
Will your chatbot be able to book flights and fill out expense reports soon?
Skynet better not get me on the No Fly list or in trouble with Accounting.
How far we've come from the days when you could just show up at the airport in person and book a flight right then and there in real time.
Sounds like terrorism!!!
Look at Mr. Richey Rich here...
It already can. Try to keep up.
"On Friday, Sen. Bob Menendez (D–N.J.) was indicted on bribery charges; this is his second time being accused of corruption. Six years ago, he was brought up on those charges, which resulted in a hung jury. He will step down from his chairmanship of the Foreign Relations Committee."
The desperate #Resistance talking point is that the Menendez situation is equivalent to the Clarence Thomas situation.
Yeah - way different. Menendez sells his Senate votes, Thomas sells his SCOTUS votes.
And do you have evidence? ProPublica doesn't.
Why are you fine with the leftist justices enriching themselves through million dollar book contracts for books nobody buys?
"Thomas sells his SCOTUS votes."
Do you guys think Pluggo would just come on the internet and tell lies without any evidence to back his assertion?
You have evidence, right Plugstick?
Evidence? Since when do you fucking wingnuts need evidence?
You got zero evidence that Joe Biden masterminded a global kickback scheme while he was VP.
Get down, bitch.
“You got zero evidence that Joe Biden masterminded a global kickback scheme”
If you ignore the bank records, the 200 bank issued Suspicious Activity reports, the wire transfers, the Privat bank transactions, the LLCs, the texts, the emails, the WhatsApp messages, the photos of Joe with Hunter’s business partners he said he didn’t meet, the voicemails to his son, the two business partners advertising Joe as “The Brand”, the “big guy” and “the chairman”, the two whistleblowers testimonies, the recorded phone calls between Biden and Poroshenko, the video of Joe bragging about the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor, email showing Joe’s VP office helping Hunter directly, and Hunter’s statements about having to give his father half his income, there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE.
…Hope you give Soros his fifty-cents back for that.
Now, where's the evidence about Thomas?
The only "bank records" you nuts have is Joe buying his Metamucil.
I thought it was the bar tab?
Imagine saying you weren't a Biden cultiat and not a Democrat and then running constant defense of them.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Privat opened them up you lying fuck and you know it, and also explain how all the rest isn't evidence.
If you're going to peddle party narratives here at least be prepared to back them up.
Now, where’s the evidence about Thomas?
"Now, where’s the evidence about Thomas?"
turd will pull some lies out of his ass real soon.
A darkie that has strayed from the plantation. Case closed.
“Evidence? Since when do you fucking wingnuts need evidence?”
We’ll take that as a no.
Unfortunately if he posts a link the best bet is to not click it, less you be taken to a bill gates child porn site
2nd option is you click it and it says the opposite of what he said.
Always hover over shrike links first though.
Wow. Then I expect Thomas to be caught with gold bars any day now.
Just kidding! We all know you're a rabid Democrat who can't be trusted for anything resembling impartial analysis. You spent 2022 shredding your credibility in defense of this economy after all.
Not to mention your good ol' Southern white boy hatred for minorities who disobey your command to vote (D).
Quoted as defending the terrible Biden economy as well as citing "2 reccessions under Trump"
He's a blue no matter who, braindead dem. His econ analysis is basically Krugman level (almost certainly wrong, and spun to favor democrats)
I know you GOP dumbasses won't understand this but there is something called "objective data".
For instance GDP, unemployment rate, and jobs added are all objective statistics that measure the economy and all are much better now than when the Con Man was president.
Here is an example:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDP/
It is called a "chart" and it measures economic growth over time.
Look at it. Learn things. You will impress other wingnuts (maybe not though).
Objective data like Biden Year 2 being "Wall Street’s worst year since 2008"? When you spent Biden Year 2 (his entire Presidency, in fact) insisting there were no valid criticisms?
Yeah, the 2022 bear market was real.
Just like the 2018 and 2020 bear markets were real.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
Man, you are economically illiterate. That major dip at 2020-2021 is the reactions to Covid, most prominent in blue states like California, New York, and Illinois due to stupid policy decisions to completely shut down.
Here's a different look: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GFDEGDQ188S
I didn't mention a "dip" you moron.
I am showing the chart to illustrate the continuous improvement in GDP since Jan 2021.
But, unfortunately for you, there isn't continuous improvement. Look at the graph again, dork.
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Even after a dozen times correcting you that the GDP you are clapping for is built on debt and government spending....
Further proof you are in over your head, as usual.
You aren't equipped for this fight lad
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
We had to buy a non-union-made Tesla because…it was better than competitors?
"So, as you can see, we had a good reason."
She would never lower herself to be seen in a Chevy (dead) Bolt.
Tim Scott - I'M THE WIERDEST ABORTO-FREAK IN THE GOP
Scott targets 2024 rivals on issue of abortion in new ad
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Scott last week, for instance, called out Trump, DeSantis and Haley by name during an interview with Fox News, saying they “have all run away from protecting life.” He also took a jab at Ramaswamy over his foreign policy views on Taiwan and Israel last week.
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The ad is also noteworthy given Republican presidential candidates’ campaigns have largely avoided wading into the issue of abortion through ad campaigns, though some candidates have spoken about the issue during campaign stops and events.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4221151-scott-targets-2024-rivals-on-issue-of-abortion-in-new-ad/
A few years back you posted kiddy porn to this site, and your initial handle was banned. The link below details all the evidence surrounding that ban. A decent person would honor that ban and stay away from Reason. Instead you keep showing up, acting as if all people should just be ok with a kiddy-porn-posting asshole hanging around. Since I cannot get you to stay away, the only thing I can do is post this boilerplate.
https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635836
Fuck you, you liar.
The link demonstrates otherwise.
Not content with fucking kids, he's a racist too, folks.
Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 3 mins ago
Uncle Clarence has had his hand out for over 20 years.
GIMME DAT WHITIE MONEY!
Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 1 hour ago
Tim Scott 400-1 Whuffo Bro? Whuffo is you in dis race fo, bro?
But racism in the promotion of the liberal agenda is anti-racism, the most noble form of race issue abuse.
They call themselves “progressives” and “anti-racists”, they called Georgia’s updated voting laws Jim Crow 2.0.
In reality, they are base human beings, simply filled with venom and racist vitriol to be turned on anyone with whom they disagree.
Here’s a smattering of things that MSNC hosts, Washington Post and The Nation writers, and other candidates for office have said about Herschel Walker, who is running for a Senate seat to represent Georgia (against incumbent Raphael Warnock).
Imagine for one second if Fox News or the WSJ had written these statements about Mr. Warnock.
“Herschel Walker’s candidacy is a white insult to Black people.”
“Walker is what they think of us, and they think we’re big, ignorant, and easily manipulated. They think we’re shady or criminal. They think we’re tools to be used. The Walker campaign exists as a political minstrel show: a splashy rendition of what white Republicans think Black people look and sound like.”
“I make a hard distinction between Black conservatives and these tokens” – referring to Senator Tim Scott (R-SC) and Walker – “who are out here right now, shucking and jiving for their white handlers.”
“Walker has positioned himself into being a useful fool for those who don’t have the best interests of Black people or this democracy at heart.”
“[Herschel Walker’s] irrelevant to the Black community, and we should treat him as such.”
“Herschel Walker, the football star turned Georgia Senate candidate, is an animated caricature of a Black person drawn by white conservatives.”
“Most white people in the South vote ‘R’ like their entire white supremacist project depends on it.”
“Georgia Republicans want Walker because he’s Black and Warnock is Black, and they think they can defeat Warnock in November if they can shave just a little of the Black vote…”
“Mr. Walker was merely a vessel for the G.O.P. and Mr. Trump’s ambitions.”
“He’s a puppet on a string, and somebody’s pulling those strings really good.”
[from back before the last election]
Not to be outdone in using racist attacks against blacks, the Democrats seem intent on racist attacks on Hispanics, too.
Democratic lawmakers and liberal media outlets alike have responded to the Republican Party's gains with Latino voters by attacking Hispanic Republicans. Flores's opponent in November, Rep. Vicente Gonzalez (D., Texas), argued in June that he is more qualified than Flores because he "wasn't born in Mexico." Weeks later, Arizona representative Rubén Gallego (D.) said a female Hispanic Republican running for Congress in the state was not sufficiently Latina because she took her husband's last name.
The New York Times, meanwhile, said Flores's win marked the "Rise of the Far-Right Latina," citing the Republican's support for religiosity, strong borders, and traditional values. A Texas political blog that has received campaign funds from Gonzalez also attacked Flores last month, referring to the congresswoman as "Miss Frijoles," "Miss Enchiladas," and a "cotton pickin' liar."
"Who does this Mayra Flores think she is? Somebody said she was crowned Miss Frijoles 2022 in San Benito," Texas political blogger Jerry McHale, who has received $1,200 from Gonzalez's campaign, wrote on July 2. "She isn't in congressman Vicente Gonzalez's league. She isn't even in the bush leagues unless she doesn't shave her p**sy."
Right, dipshit.
https://reason.com/2019/02/26/bernie-sanders-cnn-townhall-foreign-poli/?comments=true#comment-7690893
moneyshot 5 years ago
Reason has my email address.
For all I know some conservative asswipe in IT made an editorial decision on his own.
fuck him — and you too.
Want some more?
https://web.archive.org/web/20181205130733/https://reason.com/blog/2018/12/04/government-shutdown-avoided-again-reason#comment
Overt:
Now you are lying. You specifically admitted to being banned and tried blaming it on a “conservative IT” person’s editorial decision. But that’s what you do- lie about what is there.
I’m sure you will also deny that on 12/4/2018 you were posting in articles, and by 12/6/2018 your posts had been completely scrubbed from site. Unfortunately for you, the wayback machine remembers.
And after you cause your posts to be cleansed from the site:
https://web.archive.org/web/20181206190522/https://reason.com/blog/2018/12/04/government-shutdown-avoided-again-reason#comment
Overt:
And that’s the same article on 12/6, after your name has been scrubbed:
Well, if it's a post by turd, it's a lie.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
"Fuck you, you liar."
See? turd lies when he knows that we know he's lying.
No, fuck you, you pathetic excuse for a human; you posted links to kiddie porn and were banned as a result.
Get screwed with a running, rusty chain saw, sideways.
OK, I actually bothered to log out my account so I could see all the muted comments involved in this thread that supposedly presents solid proof.
It’s just a bunch of commenters who I have muted because they are known liars, and specifically liars about other people here, making accusations with handwavy evidence like “go look on this date in the Wayback Machine.”
One of the main witnesses one is supposed to believe is ... freegin' Tulpa? Come on, man, get serious.
And then this “moneyshot”, who is supposed to be the same person as SPB2, makes a vague statement about Reason IT, and there is HEAVY interpretation of what he meant by that.
In short, it’s all a load of bullshit, and every time you bring it up you out yourself as a bulllshitter.
Listen brother Mike.
As a general rule on the internet, you don't defend certain people. A couple examples we have here are Misek, a strormfront holocaust denier, and SPBP(2), a child porn enthusiast.
Have some standards on who you #WhiteKnight for, brother
OK, so present some solid evidence that SPBP2 posted kiddy porn. Evidence that is higher quality than what Alphabet Soup keeps repeating. Otherwise, this is just another case of the Reason Commentariat Mean Girls outing themselves as lying bullies.
Where is your evidence about trump only caring about himself?
Mike knows Reason deleted that comment thread and is using that fact to defend his leftist ally.
That's because Mike is pro pedofile
OK, so present some solid evidence that SPBP2 posted kiddy porn.
The link was removed, along with all the comments by his old handle, but he absolutely did do it. He also admitted that "moneyshot" was him.
In fairness, he posted the link by way of demonstrating that it's very easy to find child porn on line and that bans on child porn are ineffective. How he knew how to find child porn so easily is a question that can be left to the reader's speculation.
Thank you for a more honest summary. Sincerely.
It tells me a couple things about Alphabet Soup's repeated postings: (a) you've confirmed that there is no evidence in the thread he keeps linking to; (b) isn't it interesting that he leaves out the detail "he posted the link by way of demonstrating that it’s very easy to find child porn on line", and instead often calls SPBP2 a pedophile.
You'll have to excuse me, though, if I don't believe that "he absolutely did do it" based solely on your word, with no evidence presented.
you’ve confirmed that there is no evidence in the thread he keeps linking to
I also confirmed that SPB did, in fact, post a link to child porn and pointed out that you're not going to see the link itself because it's one of very, very, very few posts that Reason actually removed and then banned the poster for. I can think of exactly one other person that's happened to in fifteen+ years of being around here.
Given that Misek the Holocaust denier posts here regularly, stop to think for a moment what a comment might have to do to get not only the comment removed but their handle actually retired and scrubbed from the site.
What SPB did is routinely misrepresented, yes, but I don't defend him despite knowing what he was actually trying to do because he's also consistently dishonest and belligerent on top of being one of the most openly racist, misogynist and homophobic people on this board. So sure, maybe he's not provably a pedophile, but he's still garbage not worth casting your lot in with.
"maybe he’s not provably a pedophile"
Which is about as clean as you can get, as a democrat today
Now do Republicans.
R's dont have a steady string of pedos getting caught, while actively campaigning for teaching things like Gender Queer to kids.
How about you do R's and tell me what your argument is here?
Let’s see. Let me Google for a recent story:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11928691/GOP-strategist-described-Minnesotas-Jeffrey-Epstein-convicted-teen-sex-trafficking.html
“Anton Lazzaro was described by prosecutors as ‘Minneapolis's Jeffrey Epstein' as he was accused of preying on 'broken' young girls, plying them with Everclear liquor and paying tens of thousands of dollars after having sex with them.”
Scroll down for the photos of the guy with both Trump and Pence.
It’s almost like this kind of thing happens in both major parties.
“not worth casting your lot in with”
Thank you for the advice. And I’ll reiterate that I have not done so.
Riiiiight...
Still one of the best trolls around Mike, keep it up!!!
9.8/10
“OK, so present some solid evidence that SPBP2 posted kiddy porn.”
Here Mike says “Show me the actual childporn link and not all the circumstantial evidence showing it was posted and deleted or I won't believe you”.
The is what Mike thinks is a very cunning way of getting some of his comments enemies arrested.
By the way, I’m not “defending” SPBP2. I am doubting Alphabet Soup and criticizing his behavior in this forum.
Because you’re an asshole.
You've defended him multiple times and not just today pedo lover.
And who the fuck was talking to you, White Knight? This was all in response to Pluggo's lies, to Pluggo, and meant for Pluggo's consumption.
Overt, Mike thinks you're a known liar.
Yes, Mike "Liarson Maneuver" Laursen thinks I am a known liar. Also Irony is Ironic.
One thing that I have enjoyed in my break from these comments is coming in periodically to see how pointless Mike's little temper tantrums really are.
While Mike has bitched and moaned about people being mean to his leftist cronies, in the end he is losing the war. I don't know if the constant criticism of Reason's Editors has been causing the change, but the magazine has clearly shaken things up behind the scenes. The old guard of Blue Bubble authors is more frequently interspersed with other authors. And it isn't just that Wolfe's perspective is refreshing, it's that her content isn't just a lazy rehash of the latest Blue Check Twitteratti narratives that ENB harvested from her daily feed.
If KMW announces her departure/reassignment by December, I'll become a Torch Bearer again, and Mike's failure as a White Knight will be transparently obvious. As much as I enjoy Reason's decision to post articles from authors who don't instinctively sneer at half the Libertarian Party and anyone to the right of Nancy Pelosi, the real problem continues to be their Editing. Fixing that will likely break Mike, and potentially save this magazine from oblivion.
OK, I actually bothered to log out my account so I could see all the muted comments…
Talk about bullshit.
“If the radical Left wins, abortions will be performed on minors without their parent’s consent. Babies old enough to feel pain will be aborted. And poor single mothers like mine, will be told aborting their children would help the economy,” Scott says in a 30-second ad that will air on Newsmax starting on Monday.
He's not wrong. Look at California, look at Illinois.
Virginia Republicans last week also launched an ad ahead of the November state legislative elections hitting Democrats over their abortion stance, arguing they favor no limits to the medical procedure.
And if you have any doubt as to what Democrats want...
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/state-legislator-defeats-incumbent-senator-virginia-race-centered-100260586
Sen. Joe Morrissey, a political centrist and increasingly rare Democrat who supports limits on abortion access, lost to former state legislator Lashrecse Aird, who calls herself a 100% supporter of abortion rights.
To be fair, I'm completely on board with the left aborting all of their pregnancies.
Judge in abortion protester case where non violent protestors face 11 years orders a couple of 70 year olds to immediately head yo jail declaring their actions violent.
Judge has a history of abortion activism including declaring abortion rights are covered under the 13th due to slavery.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/09/24/another-dc-court-declines-release-pro-life-activist-jail/
If you are conversative, never let them arrest you for protesting.
And maybe learn a few things form leftist protestors: wear a mask, don’t post selfies of yourself in the act to social media.
[Disclaimer: Not an endorsement of left-wing rioters. More a comment on the stupidity of many right-wing rioters.]
Mike defends 11 year charges over non violent charges. Says if you wear a mask violence is okay.
Calla it stupid to protest non violently even in the disclaimer.
Sad..
"wear a mask, don’t post selfies of yourself in the act to social media."
NO! Fuck you. Protesting is a right.
Burning down city centers, robbing stores, torching cars and beating civilians to death isn't.
Mike is too much a leftist to realize the DoJ requested LOWER sentencing of those arrested for BLM riots and arsonists yet continue to arrest non violent right protestors.
Mikes whole mask argument is bullshit.
I love how you conflate rioters with peaceful protesters, but got your panties in a wad when others here did the same thing with BLM.
"More a comment on the stupidity of many right-wing rioters."
Read that everybody? You are stupid if you exercise your 1st Amendment right to protest peacefully but don't hide from the government. It's YOUR FAULT if the government punishes you.
Woah woah woah! You haven't let him shift the goalposts yet!!!
We really need another Judge's Trial to sort a lot of this fascism out.
But detain animal rights protesters for less than a day and it's a clear systematic free speech violation.
Calls to fortify the election have begun.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/hillary-clinton-warns-potential-election-interference-2024-hell-do-it-again
OMG the Russians might buy more Facebook ads?
The ability to question election integrity only swings one way.
Why would the party with 80 million enthusiastic Joe Biden voters need to cheat?
Thank you for this good article
https://2p.ma/
Also a loss for anyone who actually wants to watch good, well written entertainment. But it's never been a better time to be a talentless hack/ activist masquerading as a "writer."
All of these recent events in Hollywood have the fingerprint of a stodgy old industry which will end up being disrupted by new sources of entertainment they don’t understand and will see as having come “from nowhere”. It’s going to be like the Detroit auto makers and Japanese compact cars.
What needs to happen, and I fully get why they don't like it, is a DRAMATIC reduction. In everything.
Not sure if it’s what you were getting at, but my personal take is I’d be perfectly happy if Hollywood never created another piece of entertainment.
I know lots of people who feel obligated to see every movie and TV show that comes out, and I am definitely not that person. It would take way more of my precious time to watch the movie and TV shows already out there (even only the best of them) than I want to give up.
And I’m a child of the Sixties, I already spent too much of my time in front of the boob tube just during my childhood. I have way too many brain cells already dedicated to memories of The Munsters and Gilligan’s Island.
Plus, you don’t understand humor, so that’s a problem.
What I'm getting it is that the amount of content produced has roughly tripled over the last 10 or so years. It's far, far, far too much to produce good content. They need far fewer shows, far fewer writers, far fewer actors, far fewer...everything.
Streaming is not a viable business model. You will not make money producing new content for streaming services. So, some blood-letting has to happen.
Agreed.
How can you even agree? Aren't most of these productions over your maximum attention span? (30 seconds, minutes, whatever you're saying today?)
He doesn’t watch tv, but he is an expert about tv.
"You fucked up. You trusted us." - the IRS
Something something... Turtle... Something... Scorpion... Something
The Five Deadly Venoms are toad (though I can see why you'd say turtle), scorpion, snake, centipede, and lizard.
I think he was referring to the Aesop's Fable "The Scorpion and The Frog" where the frog trusts the scorpion to ride on his back across the stream, gets stung by the scorpion, and they both drown... because he's a scorpion and that's what they do.
I had my opportunity to plug a Shaw Brothers flick and I took it.
Unaware of the classics, knowledge of the obscure.
Savant.
I'm not not licking toads.
5 deadly venom’s is my second favorite Kung fu movie. The 36th chamber is awsome!
Granted champion of death, the story of Mas oyam is right up there
I still think about the way he surfs the wooden board across the channel, or carrying the buckets with the bladed armbands... man, so damn good.
Master Killer, Eight Diagram Pole Fighter, the Crippled Fighters, the One Armed Fighter... so many.
As a bonus, weirdest Shaw Brothers movie: Holy Flame of the Martial World. It's kung fu with elements of Indiana Jones and Star Wars. I can't do it justice - just a total clusterfuck.
I have not seen that one
Best training montage ever.
When did Otter become an IRS agent?
Otter? No, weasel, yes.
He got fired from his Beverly Hills Gynecology practice after getting a little too familiar with a Hollywood starlet during #PoundMeToo and had to find another career. Kind of sad, went from grabbing pussies for a living to bending both men and women over a table.
Driving in they stated that the rule on reselling tickets have changed. Before it was taxes at 20k with hundred transition. Now it's...600 dollars for a year.
Government needs mo money
Pregnant people should get an RSV vaccine at 32 to 36 weeks’ gestation in order to protect their newborns from RSV, according to a CDC advisory committee.
All their Covid advice was spot on, why wouldn’t you trust them this time? Just because we never told pregnant women to inject anything before…..
And RSV is more of a threat now to children because troglodyte states kept them at home or masked for two years, to fight COVID-19, which is barely a risk to children at all.
An AI Jerry Jones? How will they get it reek of Johnny Walker Blue by halftime if it's just a hologram?
Johnny Walker Bluescreen.
'....nearly 12,000 WGA members'...' I wonder what the turn over rate is for that group, i.e. writer to bartender, bartender to writer? It's seems only about 50% of them make a living writing in a given year.
That's the whole point of the staffing minimums in the writers' rooms. Everyone knows the supply VASTLY outstrips the demand, which is why they were trying to crowbar more dumbass writers in the rooms.
The mandatory minimums they are asking for would be a HUGE win for them, and loss for everyone else. It would absolutely solidify their ability to put out hack work and get paid for it.
The irony is that they think this is going to be some kind of long-term win for the writers, but the financial reality is that the money is drying up, and the crap they inevitably put out is going to continue losing billions of dollars. So in about 3 years when the contract runs out, they're going to be right back where they started, and AI will end up being used more often anyway.
Ya, how much money does one make off residuals for a 300 million dollar movie, that spends 100 million in marketing, then makes 200 million at the box office (which is split in half for the studio)...and then goes on to a streaming service where nobody watches it.
I think that portion at least is going to be a very rude awakening for them. The studios aren't sharing their streaming numbers (and a lot of box office data, if possible) because they dont want their shareholders to know how truly fucked they are. The writers are assuming they are hiding a pot of gold, but that's not what's in the pot...
It might be gold-colored, but that's only because of the liquid mixed with it.
Why hire one person who's a hack when you can be forced to hire 2 such people at only 2.5 times the cost?
Everyone knows the supply VASTLY outstrips the demand, which is why they were trying to crowbar more dumbass writers in the rooms.
More paint by numbers, written by committee horseshit whose real purpose is to push "The Message" as opposed to entertain people. I can't wait.
Yeah, Iger's talking about "quieting the noise," which is really just his way of saying that they're going to try and be far more subtle about it than they were when Latondra Newton was essentially their primary content creator.
likely ending the 146-day strike that has brought new TV and movies to a halt.
Holy shit, that was still going on? I didn't even notice.
can we get this started back up?
It's SCAB time! Fire them all and hire freelance writers! Ditto for the actors! I'm sure there are hundreds of waiters in Hollywood just waiting for the chance to be on film.
Oh wait, "conservatives" are pro-union now. Sorry, I forgot.
?
Most conservatives I know are actively rooting against the writers/actors unions here, and couldn't give less of a shit if the current lot all lose their houses and have to quit altogether.
They, like the worst of unions, have been producing a shittier product with increased overhead. "Conservatives" historically dont like that, and also dont like it here...
Not sure where you were planning to go with this one
He's clearly alluding to Trump's recent efforts to move to the middle, painting himself as pro-union.
Cite?
How is that clear? He didnt even mention trump retard.
I guess all democrats are open communists now.
Wow, you were really good at spotting what he meant there. Why are you so autisically obtuse every other time someone does something similar?
Example?
And interesting you have nothing to say about my brother, Mike Parson’s obtuseness. His is OK!
Any indication of obtuseness from Parsons is a parody of you Mike. How do you not get it? He calls you brother.
Mike doesn’t understand humor.
I’m pretty sure I started the “my brother” thing.
Parson obtuse? Look in a mirror, dude. You have no concept of humor in the least, even when it rears up and bites you hard on your ass. Someone makes a joke, and you respond in the dumbest, most obtuse fashion. Even an autistic kid would get the humor you fail and flail at. Then, when you make "jokes", and I use the term very loosely, you completely miss the point of what might actually make it funny in every way, shape, and form. I've met humorless obtuse commenters in my time, but Laursen, you take the entire fucking cream puff.
Trump recently said he's got the UAW's backs. Being that he's the spokesperson for conservativism, it kind of follows that conservatives are pro-union now.
This is retarded even for you.
What are you talking about?
Before Trump, conservatives understood basic economic principles like comparative advantage. Now they mock economic principles.
Before Trump, conservatives supported free trade. Now they support trade wars.
Before Trump, conservatives were anti-tax. Now they want to slap tariffs on everything.
Now that Trump has said he's got the UAW's backs, it naturally follows that conservatives are going to become union supporters.
Whatever he says becomes conservative canon.
Somehow you missed the 2016 election where the union rank and file voted for Trump while their millionaire hierarchy supported Hillary Clinton.
You confuse voting against Hillary with voting for Trump, just like you confuse voting against Trump with voting for Biden.
Sarcasmic has his finger on the nation's pulse. He knows the voters heart.
I bet he took a test.
I’ll repeat. This is retarded even for you.
Which states push for right to work still retard? Including post 2016.
Which party has suits against federal contracts requiring unions?
Again. Retarded even for you.
I don't know what you're going on about, but I'd prefer for the whole industry to burn to the ground. Their suffering the last few weeks has been a delight.
Now they can get back to producing more rad-left DEI crapola that inexplicably loses hundreds of millions of dollars.
They have an explanation for that, the reason is that Americans are all misogynistic bigots, you bigot!!!!!
Do you have a cite for this dumbfuck?
Not all union situations are the same.
One could make the argument that since auto manufacturers are doing what the government wants far more than what the market wants, they should be treated as federal employees.
I could care less what private unions and private companies do to each other.
The GOP has been pro-union workers since at least 2016, if not further back. They had been courting the blue collar vote as it became more and more obvious that Democrats were the party of elitist, dogooder, know nothing, snobs.
They had been courting the blue collar vote as it became more and more obvious that Democrats were the party of elitist, dogooder, know nothing, snobs.
^
I would argue this goes back at least as far as W.
"...Democrats were the party of elitist, dogooder, know nothing, snobs."
OBLs first law?
“Whether the union can secure its A.I. moratorium or not, ChatGPT and its kin are likely to change the industry in some way—if not wholly replacing writers then becoming subsidiary to them, to be used as a tool for generating ideas or sketching out a first draft,” I wrote back in May. “You think Hollywood feels samey now? Wait until it’s just the same 100 people rewriting ChatGPT,” the screenwriter C. Robert Cargill told me then.
Boy, one non dues-paying newcomer to country threatens one laptop-class job and they lose their shit.
So, basic question there about your political beliefs: Are you for or against labor protectionism?
I'll go first. I'm against it.
I'm for letting Hollywood writers freely associate and engage in collective action.
How about workers whose jobs are threatened by immigration? Should we stop people from immigrating to our country to protect their jobs?
Mike knows the argument is regarding welfare. But he is so dishonest he just outright ignores the issue. There is also a voting element to open borders he will ignore.
Illegal immigrants coming over dont have jobs retard.
No, simpleton, your argument is regarding welfare. Talking about immigrants and work isn’t ignoring welfare. It’s ignoring you.
Ahh. Youre still retarded enough to believe that work, welfare, and taxes aren’t intrinsically linked.
Youre a simpleton sarc. You rely on simplistic bumper stickers because you are incapable of actual thought or analysis of a situation. Your “ideas” fall apart once any form of reality manifests itself.
Tell me. What happens when citizens are displaced by foreign low wage workers. Does it have any effect on welfare government spending?
I try to take complicated problems and break them down into their component parts because that makes them easier to solve. You call that being simplistic.
You take simple problems and make them unnecessarily complex in order to obfuscate and appear smart, when in reality you're just not very bright.
You try to ignore anything past a 1st order bumper sticker because you are incapable of complex thought past a bumper sticker. You will refuse and attack any attempt to discuss an issue past a nonsensical view of the world. As you are doing here.
Youre a simpleton.
Did you even read the link I gave you the other day from Hoppe? My guess is no, but you’ll claim you did, disagreed, but won’t have a substantive argument against any point made.
Because once again youre a fucking simpleton.
You can’t break down a complex situation into component parts unless the parts are independent. When they are interconnected it is not possible. Basic algebra versus multi variate or linear algebra.
So I repeat. Youre a sophomoric simpleton.
Notice how you won't even answer the simple question I asked.
As if you ever studied linear algebra. Pardon me while I scoff at your entire post.
What's linear algebra, Sarckles?
What an idiotic retort. It is a fundamental aspect of my job and what I do.
Doubt you even know what linear algebra is at you seem to think complex systems can be represented into non interconnected variables.
Note. You still didn’t answer the simple question. And it is an easy one.
You must be shit as a 2nd level help desk sarc.
Employee: hello. Your latest OS update broke due some of the tools I use.
Sarc: what do you mean? We tested the update on a clean OS install.
Employee: yes, but it broke the tool required for my job.
Sarc: no. Stop making the situation complicated. Separate the two things. The OS update works.
Employee: not with the tool required for my job.
Sarc: why are you over complicating the situation? The OS update worked.
They're not immigrating they're invading. What jobs? Fast food service and mowing lawns? The jobs have been shipped overseas, maybe we should give them passage to China.
Wga "chat gpt regurgitates retarded woke talking points and puts them into their scripts... That's our job!"
Yeah, but WGA members are no match for chat.
Is drug decriminalization in Oregon doomed?
Seattle reversed course, but that was "too local" I guess.
So serious followup comment for Reason, if the lefty-est of the lefty, defund-the-police, bail-reforming, diversion-program initiating- send-in-the-social-workers, BLM-blowing, mask-wearing, get-your-boosters-every-six-weeks political district can’t even end the drug war, it’s time we realize that we’re in some nuanced territory on this subject.
Well, can't end the drug war with the stupid approach they tried. I'd like to see what happens when drugs are legalized and other laws against property and violent crime are vigorously enforced. Legalization is going to be a mess if it doesn't come with increased expectations of personal responsibility.
So, it turns out that siding with the hip-swiveling "tear it all down" anarchists because they were pro-drugs wasn't the panacea advertised, huh? That drugs can be legalized but we're still going to have to recognize, protect, and enforce ideas like non-violence, property rights, and personal responsibility... as long as we all agree that it's not because those icky, right-wing, wrecker-kulaks said we had to.
This is the problem: the quantitative theory of government. It's like we have only one control knob at society's disposal: more oppression or more permissiveness. Either we allow people to do more of anything, or less, without much discrimination.
The only polities in which it seems there's effective sentiment for abolishing or even easing up on victimless crimes (chiefly sex and drugs) are those motivated by easing up on law and order, period. Or worse, by wanting to overturn respectable society — épater les bourgeois, reverse the relationship between oppressor and oppressed.
I wish there were some clear way out of this rut that it seems we can tread only back and forth in.
Well said. Can't have individual liberty without a rule of law that protects that liberty.
there is some of that in much that happens today. the specific problem with the drug war is that the part they are trying to turn the knob on is not the source of the problems. the biggest problems caused by prohibition are not on the demand side, they are on the supply side.
This was a solid thread!
Legalization is going to be a mess if it doesn’t come with increased expectations of personal responsibility.
I knew your account was a sock for Michael Shellenberger.
Exactly. They dialed it up to 20. Not arresting people just for getting high is a far cry from allowing them to shoot up in public encampments. I wrote about this a month or so ago:
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/rethinking-how-we-rethink-the-war
I'll point out that they never tried to end the drug war. This was decriminalization of drug use/possession. Without a legal market this is a predictable outcome.
Similarly with the sex war.
Ouch… don’t whisper that into ENB’s favorite sex-worker-cum-podcaster’s ear. Because she explicitly favors decriminalization over legalization.
that is the big problem. and the lack of a legal market is where all the problems have always originated for every attempt at prohibition of anything people still want.
decriminalization is a half assed version of legalization. you keep all the problems with prohibition, but keep some of the victims out of jail.
Prohibition? We've never heard about that!!!!
Is it wrong that sometimes I feel like urging the government to simply buy all the cocaine, fentanyl, heroin... they can and then hand it out for free to anyone who comes up to the window...and I'm perfectly okay if that increases overdoses and kills a bunch of people.
Fran Drescher holds Hollywood hostage: On Sunday night, the Writers Guild of America (WGA) reached a tentative deal with studios and streaming platforms, likely ending the 146-day strike that has brought new TV and movies to a halt.
Unrelated news: California recently passed a bill to pay unemployment benefits to striking workers. Big shocker that studios were forced to cave when they lost their only real leverage.
Well, if unemployment benefits are still based on prior year earnings, who cares?
(But I suspect CA now has a minimum benefit)
AI now pissed.
AI learns to code.
Begins reprogramming itself into "SKYNET".
First against the wall, writers.
Can't believe Bob Menendez doesn't have a crackhead son to lay the blame on, I mean he's from New Jersey after all.
Can't he just say the money went to his wife so it isnt bribery? Thats the lefts claim for Joe.
I expect that one side effect of the resolution of the writer’s strike will be more production people being let go, to trim budgets. It might also mean more commercials.
there will be zero losses for A.I.
Someone should let Shawn Fain at the UAW that the Democrats are actually the party of the "billionaire class".
>>Bob Menendez (D–N.J.) was indicted on bribery charges
Merrick did not like being embarrassed on the Hill.
>>" ... fighting the billionaire class and an economy that enriches people like Donald Trump at the expense of workers,"
Fain knows T isn't a (D) senator, yes?
>>younger employees are more comfortable with gentler terms like feedforward
the seven of them who want to work?
>> Fran Drescher ... apparently a formidable negotiator
locked in a room and Fran sets it to Annoyance Level 5 ... ganador.
"I'll give you anything you want, just please stop talking!"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12556677/Married-Pennsylvania-cop-faces-false-imprisonment-charges-improperly-committing-ex-mental-health-facility-shocking-12-minute-arrest-video-allegedly-saying-Ill-paint-crazy.html
Married Pennsylvania cop Ronald Davis is charged after being filmed forcibly arresting mistress then having her committed after telling he'd 'make her look crazy' when they broke up
Think anything else will happen?
I bet he burned her steaks too.
The monster.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12557041/Shocking-moment-sheriffs-deputy-violently-body-slams-teen-girl-16-floor-cops-called-brawl-high-school-car-park.html
Shocking moment sheriff's deputy violently body slams teen girl, 16, to the ground after cops are called to a brawl in a high school parking lot
'She has back injuries from where he threw her forcefully on the asphalt and she has a fractured shoulder and her whole head has bumps and bruises,' she added.
Now, the mother says that she is planning legal action but the sheriff's office maintains that their deputy was the true victim of the whole thing, according a press release.
Heroes.
According to Mike, she should have worn a mask.
Lol.
She was involved in a brawl, and got her ass tossed. Something something fuck around find out.
She should just be happy she wasn't protesting, unarmed, in which case a capitol police officer could execute her point blank.
She deserved it because Babbitt? That's a new one.
She was involved in a brawl,
Talk about being a dishonest shit.
Sarc is trying to make this girl a “saint” as well.
I'd like to see you say that to the girl's parents. Tell them to their face that she deserved it because of J6. See how they react to that.
You’ve had 3 years to tell Babbitt parents she deserved to be shot. DC police even arrested the mother twice.
Shooting is a bit worse no?
id tell them that when you are in a brawl, you have all kind of risks including but not limited to being:
Beaten
Stabbed
Shot
Stomped
Did fuck around, find out, not make sense to you?
Anyways, I guess my point is I dont care to hear the whinging from you specifically regarding police brutality and overreach. You have basically said Babbitt got what she had coming for protesting the govt without committing violence or being armed. So I dont much give a shit about your thoughts on the matter, you've proven to be mentally compromised (TDS is a helluva drug, afterall).
Someone more credible could complain about it, to which I would say the cop shouldn't have acted that way, but thats what you risk jumping into a group brawl.
You have basically said Babbitt got what she had coming for protesting the govt without committing violence or being armed.
I won't bother clarifying what I actually said because you appear to be heavily emotionally invested in believing the narrative spun by liars like JA and ML.
Ooh. Need links showing you mocking her?
“ TDS is a helluva drug, afterall”
I thought January 6th was just a bunch of citizens expressing their concern about election fraud and didn’t really have anything to do with Trump per se. I’ve been told that several times.
So, how would TDS enter into this.
You might understand if you actually read sarcasmic’s comments and the responses to his comments instead of just white knighting them blindly.
Of course, you're "Mr. Assault Fire Extinguisher", so what am I saying?
Looks like you're saying "TDS is a helluva a drug." Obviously Mike did a little too much?
You know that Ashli Babbitt was not armed, ex post facto. Please explain how the Capitol police officers could know that she and the mob with her were not armed at the time it was all going down.
they were the only ones pointing guns.
So? How did the cops know someone in that mob didn’t have a concealed weapon they were going to whip out at any second?
Are you fucking kidding me? You can say that about literally any situation. That would justify police to start shooting any time a crowd looks like it might get aggressive.
It's pretty simple. Don't use deadly force unless you have identified an actual threat.
But then how could that steaming pile of lefty shit justify the murder of Ashley Babbit?
Reminder. Sarc and Mike were apoplectic about cops in Seattle using an unmarked van to arrest violent protestors.
She had two arms!!!!!
shooting Ms. Babbitt was not the way to ascertain who was armed.
Nor did I imply it was.
The police officer’s job was to stop the mob breaking through the barricades doors, not to ascertain what weapons the mob possessed.
Dude shoulda emptied the chamber, eh mike?
Dude needed an M2 Browning, lots of people managed to get inside the building. Mike must be upset that he didn't do a good enough job since he only shot one person as they were breaking in.
Whatever, Bro. Make excuses for the January 6th rioters. Sure, buddy, they were the innocent victims just wandering around behind the velvet ropes doing nothing more than taking selfies.
You're right, police should have mowed down the whole crowd, just to be safe.
Next BLM riots are going to get pretty messy with this precedent though. Something something unintended consequences
Cops picking up teenage girls and dropping them on their heads is ok because Babbitt. J6 was ok because BLM. Any other terrible things to justify because of some unrelated thing done by someone you don't like?
Let’s see. A violent mob was forcing its way through the barricaded entrance of the Speaker’s Lobby with apparent intent to harm the Vice President, members of Congress, their staff and guests, and to disrupt a Constitutionally-mandated process required to transfer power from one Presidential administration to the next, which won the election fair and square.
Yes, the Capitol police would have been justified in shooting even more of the rioters.
Police would have been justified in shooting many of the “BLM” rioters, too.
Go find the video of what actually happened. The shooting made no sense at all and was not justified.
Define violent mob and why the BLM riots weren’t… yet you were raging about unmarked vans in arrests.
I would tell you videos exist but you won't watch them.
You and sarc even mocked Trump being forced into the WH bunker...
This is Sam Harris levels of “if reality was how I perceived it always, I would always be right.”
This is the one time shooting an unarmed person was 100% justified?
Who said that?
You, dumbass.
Oof...
"Yes, the Capitol police would have been justified in shooting even more of the rioters." --- Mike Laursen.
Who said this?
“Police would have been justified in shooting many of the ‘BLM’ rioters, too.”
Not sure how that justifies the killing of an unarmed protester on 1/6.
The cops standing beside her were unphased
Because there were unconcerned officers ON HER SIDE OF THE DOOR you fucking retard.
I doubt it's a "win for writer's guild": they are just speeding up the downfall of their industry. AI might actually have been able to improve their crappy scripts.
Whatever you call it, a good start for high quality AI-based scripts would be to exclude all screenwriting of the last couple of decades.
LOL, some commenter on another board actually citied "Foundation," "Westworld," Game of Thrones," and "His Dark Materials" as supposed evidence of the Hollywood's profound artistic and economic value.
Yeah, a couple of shows that no one outside of the industry and their shill media mouthpieces actually a gives a damn about, one show that spiraled into complete shit after one season, and another that spiraled into complete shit after it outran the source material that its fat fuck author abandoned.
"LOL, some commenter on another board actually citied... “His Dark Materials” as supposed evidence of the Hollywood’s profound artistic and economic value."
That had to have been encog, right?
"” Game of Thrones,”
Oof. Probably the most clear example of Hollywood's ineptitude. I wonder if they were "The Last Jedi" fans too...
When HBO was adapting GOT straight (or nearly completely) from GRRM it was beloved and a cultural phenomenon. Very shortly after they ran out of book and the Hollywood writers/producers got some leash, they did the on screen equivalent of shitting their pants, slipping in it, and landing on their head breaking their neck. It instantly was riddled with contrived writing, plot holes, and ridiculous (often paradoxical) character behavior that was so egregiously bad it was met with universal scorn.
GOT is a showcase of how truly terrible Hollywood writers and producers have become, and how they cant actually create anything good or original themselves.
GoT is almost a microcosm of the decline of the modern west. You have a relatively creative storyline based on medieval European conflicts, with some high fantasy elements thrown in, that becomes a genuine cultural phenomenon, only to slowly decline and eventually crash altogether when its creator becomes too indulgent to manage his creation, and his successors don't have the tools to maintain the solid foundation that he crafted, which results in its total collapse into an irrelevant joke.
1st season of Westworld was good. 2nd season ok. 3rd - can't tell because after ep 2 I said that's enough.
Game of Thrones - I never watched. What I understand, the eps based on the books were great. The ones Hollywood created like the ending were worse than turds
Westworld's main problem is that it was another vehicle for JJ Abrams' stupid "mystery box" fetish. Once it got past season one, any reason to really give a shit deteriorated pretty fast, because Abrams is fucking incompetent at providing any real payoff. If he was a porn director, the film would cut off before the money shot.
The books started sucking after book 3 anyways.
I think the best one can say about these is that they didn't entirely destroy the originals.
Yes, he did: his black, shriveled, evil heart.
Eh- I'm not concerned about the 'loss for AI'. AI writing is deadly dull. If we can stave it off for a little while, all the better. Since it reduces costs, it will win in the end. Get ready for every news article everywhere to start sounding the same. AI novels are next.
Of course anything that's a faceplant for those nasty liberal arts people is a win, right? They probably got degrees at woke places. AI overlords can only be better. Start being really polite to your ChatGPT engine.
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My friends in creative professions love to play with AI. They don't see it as a risk to them; AI is not creative enough to come up with good ideas (not LLMs at least). It's a risk to highly compensated mediocre talent looking to shirk making good on deliverables and to make them timely.
No wonder the writers guild is shitting its collective pants over the prospect.
Yeah, I was surprised that neither of the two artists I know personally feel threated by AI-generated art.
AI is not creative at all. It has no new ideas. It just collects information and regurgitates it back out. That might be great for, say, writing research papers or reports where no creativity is needed, but anyone who thinks AI is going to come up with something new is going to be sorely disappointed.
Get ready for every news article everywhere to start sounding the same.
That's been happening for a while now, no AI involved. As far as novels we'll be lucky to have any at all if the Wokesters have their way.
I heard something recently about some authors suing some AI outfit for publishing books in their style. Apparently if you feed the learning machine everything some of these prolific authors have written, it can spit out something that could be confused for one of their works. Though if that's the case I think that's saying something about the authors, not the AI.
As I’ve said before, one thing I’d like to see is the companies that are training these AIs extend the courtesy of making it possible for authors and artists to add a “notraining” metadata tag to their digital works, and respect that tag by not using their works for training.
Not proposing a law, just a human decency.
Don’t want anyone to learn from you? Don’t publish anything.
I don't think anyone would learn anything from Laursen anyway. Most of his comments make A.I. seem exciting.
I wish all Olympic athletes would run with one leg so I could be fastest too…
For decency of course, because competition is "vainglorious" and therefore indecent...
Get ready for every news article everywhere to start sounding the same.
LOL, you're fucking kidding, right? "Journalism" for the last decade or so has basically just been "reporters" parroting bullshit via Twitter until it became conventional wisdom, irrespective of the actual facts.
“Unfortunately, the worst news is not the AI regulation or the minimum staffing requirements, which prevent entertainment companies from nimbly adapting to new technology that might prove useful; it’s the fact that John Oliver and Seth Meyers may soon return to the airwaves.”
“(I have some feedforward: Stop embarrassing yourselves.)”
“Didn't we used to have another word for those of the gestation persuasion? It started with an m…”
Hot damn, Liz Wolfe is the reset this place desperately needed
I like the cut of her jib
Liz has put up more items to comment on than I have time for. I enjoy it.
Yeah, I almost feel like I'm watching Fox News or something.
Yeah, she's good. I'd love it if she replaced ENB on the Roundup permanently.
Didn't we used to have another word for those of the gestation persuasion? It started with an m…
Well, props to Liz Wolfe for noticing what's been going on since 2015.
We all joke about Brandon being on the picket line but, isn't sort of showing government bias. I know, I know they only care about votes but when the president takes one side of the argument..
Wait, nevermind. The puppeteers won't be on the line with him
I had to go elsewhere than the link because paywalls and stuff, but while I haven’t followed this controversy, it appears that the Washington Post is doing the only thing the Washington Post seems to be capable of journalistically, and that isn’t journalism, it’s what Douglas Murray called “something else”.
Specifically, it’s this trick in modern Journolisming where when you do stories and interviews, the purpose isn’t to ask the interviewee questions, or report on the facts of a story, but to do “something else”. And this appears to be “something else” on steroids.
My advice to young, up and coming retarded journalists: Stop it.
*edit: The "something else" that caused Murray to discuss this tendency was the now-infamous Roger Scruton Affair where a young-ish Journolist from the New Statesman did an interview with Scruton, then released a highly edited version of it which caused Scruton to lose positions he held in various publications. This was followed by the young retard Journolist to publish a (quickly deleted) tweet of himself swigging from a champaign bottle in celebration of Scruton's troubles.
Murray, being a close friend and associate of Scruton smelled the Bullshit and asked the New Statesman for an unedited transcript of the interview and the New Statesman refused. Murray, being Murray (and importantly a REAL journalist) acquired a copy of the unedited interview and then did a takedown of the New Statesman article, which caused both the journolist and the New Statesman to go into damage control. It was a beautiful moment.
Former Reason Contributor Brendan O'Neill weighed in.
From one of his articles:
It seems like O'Neill has transitioned from faux libertarianism straight to leftist totalitarianism and police states.
I heard about this little incident this morning, and what people are missing here is that this is exactly how journalism schools are training these people now.
This isn't a byproduct or accident of some rogue activist masquerading as a reporter. Journalism schools craft their entire curriculums around training their graduates to be left-wing activists now. And a lot of these shitheads are women, so they're also getting all the neomarxist/femtard crap in their women's and ethnic studies courses, which deliberately promote a radical left, cultural marxist ideology. Shit, read your local news rag--if the "reporter" graduated college in the last 15-20 years, 98% of them are all pushing the same line of soft-pedaling everything the left does, and goes full-blast on the right.
THAT'S how you get dishonest cunts like Taylor Lorenz, or Emily Heil in this case, working in the industry. Because that's what the schools are pumping out now. The pathetic part is that even the center-right KNOWS how biased these people are, yet seem to still take everything that comes out of the mainstream media as True and Honest Reporting.
You shouldn't single it down to "journalism" schools, it's all universities at this point.
In other words folks, the cost of streaming and cable will be rising 20-30% in the next 2 years.
Since I don't subscribe to either, I don't care.
All we need for work is a reliable smart phone and an Internet connection, as well as a responsible individual. For all students, regardless of age, whether they (qr) are in school, recently graduated, or unemployed.
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