CEO: 'I'm the One Who Paid the Tariffs. China Did Not.'
Deena Ghazarian, CEO of consumer electronic company Austere, says the federal government's tariff exclusion process was "arcane, nontransparent, and highly uncertain."

When then-President Donald Trump imposed huge new tariffs on a wide range of imports from China in 2018, it was entrepreneurs like Deena Ghazarian who paid the price.
"To be clear, I'm the one who paid the tariffs. China did not," Ghazarian, the founder and CEO of Austere, a consumer tech accessories company, told the House Energy and Commerce Committee during a hearing on Wednesday. "I had to absorb these costs of the tariffs to avoid pricing my products out of the competitive accessories landscape."
Ghazarian had launched Austere just months before the tariffs hit. Her company specializes in selling high-end HDMI and audio cables, along with other components for home theaters and surround-sound audio systems. It is an American-owned and operated company, but one that relies on equipment and parts shipped from China. That meant she was collateral damage in the Trump administration's trade war, which included tariffs of up to 25 percent on consumer goods and electronic components imported from China.
At the time the tariffs were imposed, Trump and his top trade advisers argued that Chinese firms would bear the brunt of the costs. "China producers pay for these tariffs in the language of economics, they bear the burden of the tariffs through lower prices, lower exports, lower profits," Peter Navarro, then the head of the White House's Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy, told Fox Business in 2019.
That's not what actually happened. As Ghazarian said on Wednesday, it was (and still is) American companies that have paid for the tariffs, a fact that even the federal government now acknowledges. In a study published in March, the U.S. International Trade Commission concluded that American companies and consumers "bore nearly the full cost of these tariffs because import prices increased at the same rate as the tariffs."
The accumulation of academic and anecdotal evidence hasn't done much to change policy in Washington, however. Neither has the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. President Joe Biden was correct in 2019 when he said "Trump doesn't get the basics. He thinks his tariffs are paid for by China. Any beginning econ student at Iowa or Iowa State could tell you the American people are paying his tariffs."
Alas, the Biden administration has kept those tariffs in place.
For entrepreneurs like Ghazarian, that has meant a scramble to find alternative sources for some products—a process, she added, that is neither inexpensive nor easy. In other cases, she's had no choice but to absorb the added cost of those import taxes.
An attempt to navigate what she called the "arcane, nontransparent, and highly uncertain" tariff exclusion process run by the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) ended in frustration. Her appeals to be exempted from the tariffs were denied, and the USTR never responded to her follow-up requests asking why the denial was issued.
That's a fairly typical experience. As Reason has reported, the tariff exclusion process is effectively a bureaucratic black box with no due process for those whose claims are denied.
The experience, Ghazarian said, left her feeling like she was the government's adversary, "rather than a United States–headquartered company employing Americans."
For years, CEOs and entrepreneurs from a wide range of industries have been sitting in front of Congress to deliver this same message: Trump's tariffs hit Americans square in the face (and the wallet). The Biden administration has acknowledged that tariffs are adding to inflation too. So far, none of that has made much of a difference.
When the COVID-19 pandemic hit, Austere was one of hundreds of American companies that took advantage of the federal government's Paycheck Protection Program to stay afloat. Looking back on that ordeal now, Ghazarian told the committee that her loans through that program effectively served to offset the tariff payments that she was still obligated to make throughout the pandemic.
"It would have been more efficient to repeal the tariffs entirely," she said, stifling an ironic laugh, "which would have lessened the need for companies to seek government resources…to stay alive."
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her loans through that program effectively served to offset the tariff payments that she was still obligated to make throughout the pandemic.
So she wasn’t using the money as intended, to protect jobs. You know, fraud.
One wonders what else she was obligated to do throughout the pandemic.
Keeping your company from going bankrupt sounds like a pretty good way to protect jobs. You know, not fraud.
As long as you ignore intentions and outcomes, the government using taxpayer dollars to keep people employed was a good thing!
Fucking moron.
I don't believe in fraud ... but I do believe in misappropriation.
"It would have been more efficient to repeal the tariffs entirely," she said, stifling an ironic laugh,
Oh look, less government interference would have been better ... again.
Austere, a women-owned technology accessories brand
The borders across which tariffs are imposed is a bullshit social construct and the tariffs amount to a tax but a woman-owned business is a thing and only benefits people on the correct and totally objective side of the birth canal.
Go fuck yourself Deena. You aren’t innovative, you’re a “woman-owned” Sky Mall/Sharper Image/TouchOfModern/Brookstone knock off.
Suggested answer: Give tariff exceptions to women-owned businesses. Do I have to think of everything people?
HAAAAA!
I guess every auditor at the WME certification office is a biologist.
Just tell them you identify as a black lesbian so they cannot question the filing.
I have a feeling that when it comes to efficiently repealing tariffs entirely to offset the COVID PPP money, Deena's all on board and off to the races... right up until it comes time to leap over the the "*Even more efficiently* repeal environmental and COVID policies that originally necessitated the tariff and PPP policies." hurdle.
How is this even remotely compatible with the Equal Protection clause?
I’m glad you are holding back your feelings!
"It would have been more efficient to repeal the tariffs entirely," she said, stifling an ironic laugh, "which would have lessened the need for companies to seek government resources…to stay alive."
. . . if your business is importing consumer electronics from China, sure.
I'm not sure how that would have helped my architecture firm that specializes in the hospitality sector. You know, when all of your clients have all of their venues shuttered or severely limited by petty tyrants for an indeterminate length of time, it can be tricky to convince them to invest in new projects. So it would have been more efficient for us to repeal or never have all the pandemic restrictions that didn't work.
Then, you start the economy back up, but everything takes twice as long to get now, because the Port of LA is jammed up, and they can't get enough truckers to the shipyards to haul the stuff away due to new California restrictions.
Now your container full of stuff has arrived, but while it sat around in the yard for a month or two, a whole gang of thieves broke in and hauled it all away and destroyed what they couldn't carry off.
But you can post a picture on Snapchat whilst sitting on the toilet, so it's all swings and roundabouts.
THERE is a curious take on the whole posting a picture of what you had for lunch to facebook trope
If read through their literature and product line offerings, they're really big on the eco-impact of their packaging and their tech sanitation products (of the anti-biological variety) are great.
That fact that our insane eco-standards and nutso COVID response necessitated both off-shoring production and subsequent tariffs as well as the PPP, which wasn't exactly aimed at keeping *her* not-necessarily-closed business open, doesn't seem to have occurred to her.
Executive order taxation is unconstitutional. Both Trump and Biden should be imprisoned (and Bush and Obama). No Taxation without Representation!
No Taxation without Representation!
On several levels: LOL.
Not to mention the legislators who abdicated their responsibility and tried to delegate their job to the executive.
Companies also pay for the cost of IP theft, loss of the profits from IRAD/trade secrets, increased security costs, etc.
Yet Eric never mentions those costs, which are much higher than the tariff costs.
So raising taxes is the solution?
Companies do pay for that stuff already, no? They choose to do business in China knowing the risks.
"I had to absorb these costs of the tariffs to avoid pricing CHINA products out of the competitive accessories landscape."
Ya know like ALL US manufacturers have to.
Heaven-Forbid! /s
Next we get to hear how the CEO'S Shipping cost needs to be subsidized by the USPS (taxpayer) because that hurts his China-Importing ?competitive? edge too.
So, a business model predicated on importing products from China is hurt by a tariff on Chinese goods. To quote Paul Joseph Watson, "Well imagine my shock!"
Reading this and doing a perfunctory Google search gives me the strong impression this is a business more than willing to take advantage of all kinds of support and favoritism from the state. She seems mostly upset that it's her particular ox getting gored in this instance.
I don't even approve of the tariffs. But, this isn't the sympathy case you think it is.
You almost have to wonder if it's not *exactly* the kind of sympathy case they think it is.
say tariffs one more motherfucking time.
Deena is running a company selling overpriced crap and we're supposed to feel bad for a boutique cable seller feeling an acute squeeze from tariffs? Fuck her for not being economically productive and leaning into the leech build. The government shouldn't put thumbs on scales, but turds like this dry out, that's how the market works.
Is this really that difficult to understand? When Donald the Dunce announced those tariffs I said that consumers would end up paying them.
Hey Shreek, your socks are showing.
Taking time off from watching child porn?
Consumers of CHINA products. As-if consumers of USA products weren't paying domestic manufacturing taxes.
Well, Mrs, Ghazarian, the tariffs were working as intended, then: they were supposed to shift supply chains away from China. Companies like yours were intended to face the choice of either buying elsewhere or becoming less competitive.
Looking at the austere.com website, they are selling standard Chinese merchandise at what looks like a 700% markup, all the while being given government handouts as a "woman owned business".
This is the kind of crony capitalist DEI crap Reason favors?
The problem with the tariffs is not that they were tariffs, we do that all the time. It was that they were stupid tariffs
Targeted thought out tariff policy can be useful, not petulant childish punishment.
If you oppose all tariffs, sure, ok, that is a point of view, but this is the real world, and tariffs exist.
Who cars what HDMI cables cost? that is not an inflation driver.
You do not buy them monthly.
Do we have US competition on a tariffed item, are the items imported used in a product that US firms add value and profit on?