Should 'Sensitivity Training' Be Forced on Southwest Airlines?
A Texas judge ordered that the airline submit to training on the rights of religious believers after losing a religious discrimination lawsuit.

In early August, a furor broke out among legal commentators when District Judge Brantley Starr in Texas ordered lawyers for Southwest Airlines to submit to training on the rights of religious believers conducted by the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), a well-known and controversial right-wing litigation group. The furor is well-founded, but one may hope that its lessons extend beyond this case.
The judge's order came in the aftermath of a high-ticket religious discrimination verdict. Southwest employee Charlene Carter had sent dozens of messages to her union president berating her for countenancing abortion through union support of the national Women's March. Many of these messages were abusive, persistent, and uncivil to the point where Southwest interpreted them as harassment and fired Carter. She sued, claiming the company had not adequately accommodated her religious beliefs as required by federal and Texas law. (Southwest has argued that disapproval of abortion should be seen not as a species of religious belief, which employers are obliged to accommodate, but as a species of ethical and political belief, which neither Texas nor federal law treats as protected categories.) A jury found in Carter's favor, awarding her $5 million in damages, which Starr later reduced to about $800,000 to comply with limits on punitive awards.
As part of the verdict, the judge ordered Southwest to inform its staff that under federal law it "may not" discriminate against them for their religious practices and beliefs. Instead, the airline sent its staff a message drafted by its lawyers saying that the airline "does not" discriminate on those grounds. Carter's attorneys protested that this wording—substituting "does not" for "may not"—constituted willful noncompliance with the judge's order and requested sanctions. The airline agreed to issue a notice with the revised wording and pay Carter's new round of attorney's fees, but the judge found that wasn't enough, and ordered, as what he later called the "least restrictive means" of obtaining compliance, that the airline's lawyers undergo what used to be called sensitivity training.
And not just by any old trainer, either. "ADF is not an unbiased, educational institution — nor does it pretend to be," writes legal journalist Chris Geidner, who helped break the story. It is a legal powerhouse in the world of social conservatism, regularly filing lawsuits aiming to limit abortion and the rights of gay people and appearing in 10 Supreme Court cases. The ADF apparently had not been involved previously in Carter's case, though it has conducted trainings as part of the settlement of litigation it has pursued.
Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus perhaps overstated matters when she wrote that Starr's ruling was "straight out of 'The Handmaid's Tale'" and "tantamount to creating a government-endorsed thought police." But for the judge to order lawyers to submit to mandatory training by the ADF is just as improper as if he had ordered attendance at trainings conducted by, say, the left-leaning Southern Poverty Law Center. Judges ought to take care that the remedies they order are free from any smack of ideological correction, whether conducted by "cause" groups or others.
Which brings us to the question: Is this the first time an employer has been ordered to accept mandatory training by highly opinionated private instructors?
Not by a long shot. American employers get ordered into compliance training on discrimination matters all the time. Sometimes it's because they lose lawsuits, as Southwest did. At other times they accept the training as part of a deal to settle lawsuits. And by far the most common way training is required is through laws or regulations that provide that everyone in some legally defined class (supervisors, those who accept government contract work, etc.) submit to it. California, Connecticut, Illinois, and several other states require broad classes of employers to put either supervisors or all staff through training on harassment topics, often specifying subtopics that must be taught and who counts as a state-qualified trainer.
In the litigation context especially, it's not as if companies are necessarily left to their own choice of trainer. Thus a court turned down one company's request to have its own lawyers conduct compliance training following a lawsuit, instead requiring that it be carried on either by the court's appointed outside monitor or by another third party approved by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), the plaintiff in the case. In a different settlement with the EEOC, a container company agreed "to retain an expert on sexual orientation, gender identity, and transgender training to assist in developing a training program for [its] staff on LGBT workplace issues." That sort of thing happens regularly with no special notice paid in the legal press.
It's worth pausing to spell out more explicitly that in-person compliance training can come in many flavors, ranging from painless and friendly to just-the-facts impartiality to interactive sessions presented by cause-oriented trainers who bring strong ideological commitments. Not surprisingly, many employers in search of a nonpolarizing, noninflammatory workplace experience prefer the friendly or neutral sort of training, perhaps delivered by the company's own law firm or by an H.R. consultancy skilled at conveying compliance essentials in a way that does not come across as accusatory or crusading.
On a practical level, however, it's organizations with substantial means that are most likely to be able to afford seasoned trainers sensitive to such considerations. A smaller company may feel budget pressure to go with training it can find at a cut rate. And trainers who charge less may do so precisely because they are motivated to be in the field by strong views about it.
At least one judge in high places has voiced concern at the civil liberties implications of letting the state mandate lectures that might come across as seeking to change or undermine listeners' opinions about aspects of the law they may not agree with, as distinct from simply making sure they know what counts as compliance. Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch even used the word "re-education" in a recent case to refer to the training that the state of Colorado ordered cakemaker Jack Phillips to provide to his staff in the famous Masterpiece Cakeshop case.
As it happens, one progressive commentator at Slate went into high dudgeon at what he saw as the "frightening implications" of Gorsuch's brief remarks calling into question mandatory training like Colorado's, which was, after all, merely one of "various tools to ensure compliance" with employment law. The commentator even seemed to suggest that Gorsuch must be purposely trying to undermine a needed and wholesome legal remedy. (Slate does not seem to have published anything yet on the Southwest/ADF affair.)
Meanwhile, on the other side, one group that appears to be well aware of the coercive dangers involved is none other than the ADF. Its brief in Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Elenis (2019) likewise referred to Colorado's training order as "reeducation." Nevertheless, its chief counsel told a reporter that the group would be "happy to help" in Starr's order. Maybe there is some scenario in which it resolves to set aside its intense commitments and teach the legalities in a simple and impartial manner. But as one legal observer familiar with the ruling told me, "The judge did not choose ADF because of its presumed ability to deliver neutral training."
As for Southwest, it has hired an experienced Supreme Court litigator and filed a brief requesting a stay (which was successful) laying out a preview of the First Amendment arguments it expects to take to higher courts if needed. It also argues that the underlying jury verdict is likely to be overturned on appeal and that the order exceeds the court's civil-contempt powers, which are meant to secure a party's future compliance or compensate an opposing party for losses from noncompliance, neither motive being applicable here in its view.
Assuming the airline does not get the order nixed on one of these other legal grounds, or prevail on the plaintiff to drop matters, the dispute will be worth watching as one that could result in significant First Amendment precedent down the road.
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"Southwest employee Charlene Carter had sent dozens of messages to her union president berating her for countenancing abortion through union support of the national Women's March. Many of these messages were abusive, persistent, and uncivil to the point where Southwest interpreted them as harassment and fired Carter."
So Southwest fired Carter for arguing against her union's bosses. I presume that she was required to join the union or at least was coerced to nominally support the union's "representation" in order to be employed, and the union is supporting political causes irrelevant to employee representation. Southwest's lawyers willfully ignored the judge's original ruling that Southwest may not practice religious discrimination. In other words, this latest development could have been avoided if Southwest's lawyers had not been salty passive-aggressive trolls.
Now do Jordan Peterson's reeducation requirement.
Seems to me this was a union matter - why was the airline involved at all? Is the union funding anti-hate speech legislation and gun control legislation and anti-fossil fuel legislation and pro-Ukrainian war legislation as well? And I have to wonder after they fired her is the union still collecting union dues from her?
Good to see Walter Olson here!
Maybe courts should refrain from ordering mandatory training entirely in civil cases. It just feels too much like political re-education in communist China. Besides, it's the company's responsibility to be aware of the law.
How common is this on the criminal side? I have a friend who was caught shoplifting as a juvenile and had to go to classes about the impact of shoplifting. But criminals who commit burglary or assault - do they ever get mandatory training to let them know those activities are illegal?
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The analogous training's content would not be that such actions are illegal (Why would they have been prosecuted otherwise?) but that they are hurtful.
“..,,, had to go to classes about the impact of shoplifting….”
Hosting these classes seems like a potential growth industry for government parasites in blue shithole cities.
If they ever actually arrested anyone for shoplifting.
Let's be entirely clear: the training was ordered, not as part of the judgment in the lawsuit, and not upon the ordinary employees of Southwest Airlines, but just on the lawyers for Southwest after they willfully defied the judge's ruling in the case.
So, no, the furor is not "well-founded". If the lawyers could have learned their lesson from a neutral exposition of the facts and law, they'd have already learned that from the judge's original ruling. The nature of the trainer was chosen specifically in order to drive home a point to the officers of the court who demonstrated willful defiance of the law.
It was only forced on them because they violated the prior terms of the judgment that didn't include it.
By the way. This article would be more forceful if reason had disagreed with J6 judges requiring fealty statements and book reading lists for defendants to reduce sentencing lengths.
The right of private companies NOT-TO-HIRE/FIRE employees most definitely should over-ride any claim of equal treatment. These employees are not government employees (living off of the armed-theft of citizens); they are living off of someone's creation/company/good-will. They have every right to go start a business and run it however they choose.
One of the very root problems with the civil rights act of 1965 was it destroyed private property rights for entitlement claims. It has been a disaster far more than a blessing. Of course it was written by Democrats. They are the [WE] special-people mobsters-rule gang political ideology.
Absolutely not.
this violates the First Amendment.
The government has no role in telling employers to police the thoughts of their employees.
The commerce clause has been so utterly abused the founding fathers would give up and go home if they saw how it turned out.
>>Many of these messages were abusive, persistent, and uncivil
what would Jeebus do? this is barely a religious discrimination case
Jeebus is fed up with meekness and timidity. Jeebus would say that it is time to pull out all of the stops and get down to brass tacks. If civility is a causality in this effort, that is a just response to the war against christianity (religion) being waged by the woke aborting left.
I hate those jerks too but I don't get abusive and uncivil about it. especially at work.
Never mind Jeebus, what would Jeeves do? Probably something that'd get his employer off the hook unobtrusively.
I consider AskJeeves to be defunct. The replacement (Ask) is nothing like the original AskJeeves. It's less similar than google or chatgpt is to altavista.
But if you took the time to AskJeeves, and what he said was just have the lawyer find a way to get the client off, isn't that what all defense lawyers do? I don't think Jeeves is regurgitating any insightful or illuminating prior wisdom with that answer. I mean Jeeves is right, but obviously right.
Wrong Jeeves.
There's no need to pay for expensive in-person sensitivity training. Lots of this stuff can be learned by watching youtube clips online.
For example, I learned when it is okay to say to a co-worker that their "juicy booty slaps" just by watching this snl clip on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSs-__3szeE
There are nearly endless similar clips.
Southwest employee Charlene Carter had sent dozens of messages to her union president berating her for countenancing abortion through union support of the national Women's March. Many of these messages were abusive, persistent, and uncivil to the point where Southwest interpreted them as harassment and fired Carter.
So they fired her for being a b*tch ? In what world does sending abusive letters at work not get you fired ?
In the world where those letters can be defined as religious expression, and in a world where such expression is a special case that is exempted from otherwise applicable norms or rules.
The world where all of this is true is the current world that we live in.
Abusiveness is not a religious exemption , and clearly runs into creating a hostile work environment under EEOC federal definitions.
If the subject matter concerns abortion, the tenor doesn't matter. The majority in heavily christian states will usually say that it is exempted, as happened here.
Plenty of superstition-rooted claimants are boorish assholes . . . but boorishness does not (at least not yet) seem an essential element of religious belief.
Wouldn't that mean that any kind of behavior can be excused if religious belief is cited? I can't see any fair or consistent way for a court to sort out what is sincere and genuine religious practice and what isn't.
As I said before, I don't see many good guys here. You need to behave yourself at work. That's just how it is. It's also very bad that the union is spending money collected under duress from members on unrelated political issues.
>>any kind of behavior can be excused if religious belief is cited?
crusades and 9/11s all the way down.
The key is “interpreted as”. Generally one only uses that when the alleged abusive as is not obvious - or perhaps even not there.
Is it clearly stated somewhere that she was sending these messages to the union boss from her work email?
Underlaying all this is what to me appears as a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If you don't fire or otherwise discipline an employee doing that sort of thing, she might be the basis of a lawsuit wherein the employer is liable for harassment by that employee. And if you do, well there we see the outcome, harassment of that employee.
TL;DR the legal analysis, but don't care. What's the evidence that sensitivity training in such a case ever works? It's just punishment, humiliation.
As a matter of Libertarian principle? No, the state shouldn't be able to mandate ANY kind of "sensitivity training".
As a matter of practicality as we live in a world with things like the CRA and mandatory sensitivity training for which pronouns are appropriate or any time someone feels sexually harassed or some mid level employee does something that could be construed as racist, AND in the context of the lawyers willfully violating the terms of the original agreement, I think it's rather clear the state has assumed this power.
All of this, of course, completely ignores the fact that unions shouldn't be collecting dues from members and using them for political advocacy that's not union/business related.
But all of that needs to be ignored to lambaste conservatives for using the weapons of the left.
Obviously.
Huh?!? “Does not” seems to me a stronger statement than “may not”, so isn’t that at least in the spirit of the order? “May not” reads like a statement of possibility, not certainty.
And if “may not” be taken as meaning “must not” (And why didn’t the judge order that wording, or in legalese “shall not”, to be unambiguous?), then it reads like, “We want to do one thing, but we’re being made to do differently.” Like saying they’re doing it under protest. “Does not” does not look like that!
The judge wrote Monday that the airline was ordered “to inform Southwest flight attendants that, under Title VII, [Southwest] may not discriminate against Southwest flight attendants for their religious practices and beliefs.’ Instead, Southwest’s notice said, ‘[t]he court … ordered us to inform you that Southwest does not discriminate against our Employees for their religious practices and beliefs.’”
“Southwest’s notice failed to mention Title VII, that the federal law known as Title VII contains a prohibition, and that that prohibition forbids Southwest from discriminating against flight attendants for their religious beliefs. Instead, Southwest’s notice communicated that there’s nothing to see here—aside from the Court’s bequeathing Southwest a badge of honor for not discriminating (which the Court did not do),” he added.
I can see the issue the judge took with this the wording implications are contrary to what actually happened. I just don’t see where sending videos of abort fetuses to the Union Rep isn’t a firing harassment offense.
This is the last-gasp flailing of disaffected, obsolete right-wingers as they and their ignorance and bigotry recede into irrelevance in modern America.
"May not" in context of the federal law means they are explicitly not allowed to.
"Does not" is saying they're allowed to, but they are magnanimous overlords that have decided not to.
That's the way I see it at least.
In law there is a certainty to specific phrases.
“Does not” is not a directive but a claim that it doesn’t happen. If you do a thing but then say you don’t do that thing, you are in effect saying that what was done doesn’t count as the thing.
However “may not” is a prohibition. Specifically that combination makes a difference. In law “may” does carry the weight of being optional while “shall” is the mandate. The addition of the “not” is what converts it to a prohibition - which is a different thing in law.
Personally I’d have gone for “shall not” rather than “may not” but that just me.
The answer to the title question "Should Sensitivity Training be forced on Southwest Airline?" Is "YES".
First, the training in question is ONLY forced on three (or four) individuals, the individual lawyers who took the clearly non-compliant action from the original court order and wrote the memo to all of Southwest saying "Southwest does not discriminate...", rather than what they were instructed to communicate.
Second, Southwest (three or four lawyers) ONLY received this AFTER they blatantly defied the courts order.
Religion is silly, but it is a right. Southwest were arrogant idiots. They got what they deserve. Walter Olson, needs to include all the information, not produce a mud pie of words that ignores the bad behaviors.
Why did SWA have anything to do with this? Unless she used SWA resources (such as a SWA e-mail account), this should have been between the right-wing nutjob and her union president (the latter being the one who should have filed charges against the stalker, not her employer)
The real dispute is between a nut-job employee and a union that uses it's position as a mandatory representative of the employees to push a political agenda. It's 1st Amendment violations all the way down.
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But why is that the employer's problem? If she was harassing her union boss, why didn't the union take action directly?
The source article says her emails were interpreted as harassment. I need to read them, I'm guessing they aren't harassing at all, and they hate her for opposing the union
I'd bet she did it through company email.
That was my question. Is it possible that the Union told Southwest to get rid of her?
Nice to see you Walter. I miss Overlawyered.com.