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UFO

'We're Going To Uncover the Cover Up': House Probes Government Handling of UFOs

Plus: Moralism is ruining cultural criticism, Biden administration mandates bigger plane bathrooms, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 7.27.2023 9:42 AM

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"The American public has a right to learn" about UFOs, lawmaker says. A House Oversight subcommittee hearing on Wednesday examined what the government knows about unidentified flying objects, or UFOs.

The hourslong hearing "oscillated between statements of concern about the potential national security threat posed by unknown objects flying close to U.S. military aircraft and more extreme allusions to government conspiracies to hide the existence of alien lifeforms," reports The Washington Post. More:

"We're not bringing little green men or flying saucers into the hearing — sorry to disappoint about half y'all," Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.) said. "We're just going to get to the facts. We're going to uncover the cover up."

In response to reported encounters by Navy pilots, the U.S. military and the intelligence community have sought to more closely analyze such incidents. The sightings, including some that are believed to be drones or unmanned craft — like the Chinese surveillance airship shot down in U.S. airspace earlier this year — have fueled concerns that American adversaries could have developed new technologies that pose a threat to U.S. security.

Subcommittee members yesterday called for more transparency from the Department of Defense and intelligence agencies about their findings regarding UFOs—or "unidentified anomalous phenomena" (UAP), the new preferred term.

"The American public has a right to learn about technologies of unknown origins, nonhuman intelligence and unexplainable phenomena," said Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-Fla.).

One of the witnesses yesterday was David Grusch, a former Pentagon employee who worked on the UAP task force and now claims the government is secretly storing downed alien vessels.

"I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multidecade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access," Grusch claimed again yesterday. He also agreed when asked whether he had "personal knowledge of people who've been harmed or injured in efforts to cover up or conceal these extraterrestrial technology."

"Even by the extraordinary standards of contemporary political theater, Wednesday's House Oversight subcommittee hearing on U.F.O.s stood out," writes Helene Cooper at The New York Times:

At one point, two former Navy fighter pilots, David Fravor and Ryan Graves, described encounters with unknown objects — a decade and a continent apart — that they said accelerated like nothing either had seen before. The men first described the incidents to The New York Times in 2017 and 2018 in stories that prompted calls from lawmakers for more government transparency.

Neither of the pilots speculated about the provenance of what they saw. The sightings were reported to the Pentagon's shadowy Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which analyzes radar data, video footage and accounts provided by senior officers.

Some of the objects in videos released by the Pentagon have been explained as optical illusions or drones, but others remain unexplained.

The truth may be out there, as they say in The X Files. But yesterday's hearing doesn't really seem to have gotten us any closer to it. Still, I'm here for the UFO discourse in Congress. It's a heck of a lot more interesting and fun than lawmakers grilling another tech CEO or fomenting another moral panic about vaping or most of the other things that folks in Congress like to hold hearings about. And as the Post pointed out, "one freshman Democrat remarked was the most bipartisan discussion he'd seen in his seven months on Capitol Hill."

Who knows, maybe a big juicy government cover-up involving aliens—even one that's pretty purely speculative at this point—is exactly what American politics in 2023 needs…


FREE MINDS

Moralism is ruining cultural criticism, suggests Adam Kotsko at The Atlantic. "All mainstream criticism—especially of film and television—is evangelical in form, if not in content," he writes:

Every artwork is imagined to have a clear message; the portrayal of a given behavior or belief is an endorsement and a recommendation; consumption of artwork with a given message will directly result in the behaviors or beliefs portrayed. This is one of the few phenomena where the "both sides" cliché is true: Left-wing critics are just as likely to do this as their right-wing opponents. For every video of a right-wing provocateur like Ben Shapiro decrying the woke excesses of Barbie, there is a review praising the Mattel product tie-in as a feminist fable.


FREE MARKETS

New accessible bathroom rule could raise flight prices. Beginning in 2035, newly built single-aisle aircraft with at least 125 seats will have to include bathrooms that are fully accessible to people in wheelchairs, per a mandate announced by the U.S. Department of Transportation on Wednesday. Existing planes will be unaffected unless they fully replace plane bathrooms after the regulation takes effect.

"We are proud to announce this rule that will make airplane bathrooms larger and more accessible, ensuring travelers in wheelchairs are afforded the same access and dignity as the rest of the traveling public," said Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg in a statement.

By 2026, newly delivered single-aisle airplanes will have to include grab bars and accessible faucets, door locks, and call buttons, as well as minimal obstructions for an onboard wheelchair to get there.

Implementing the new requirements will require planes to have fewer seats and, as a consequence, raise fares for everybody, airline trade groups Airlines for America and the International Air Transport Association told the Transportation Department last year.

Fully compliant solutions would require the loss of at least three seats and possibly six seats, as well as galley capacity and workspace, they said. "Excluding the costs of implementation…the impacts on U.S. passenger airlines" would be "approximately $1.4 billion per year in lost revenue upon total industry-wide implementation" and "the conservatively estimated annual impact on foreign carriers would be approximately $250 million."

Making airline bathrooms accessible to people in wheelchairs is certainly a good thing. But it still falls under the rubric of things that airlines could implement on their own accord (Airlines for America spokesperson Hannah Walden said U.S. airlines had already been "voluntarily working with the disability community, the Department of Transportation and industry stakeholders for seven years on solutions") and with a solution more narrowly tailored, like implementing larger bathrooms on select planes rather than all of them.

The government has no business issuing such a wide-reaching mandate that will raise costs for airline passengers and companies alike.

But the Biden administration has been weirdly fixated on all the rules surrounding air travel. At times it seems like President Joe Biden is trying to situate himself as travel agent in chief. During Biden's State of the Union address back in February, he pledged to make it easier for Americans to "afford that family trip" by doing things like "making airlines show you the full ticket price upfront and refund your money if your flight is canceled or delayed," banning "surprise 'resort fees' that hotels tack on to your bill," and prohibiting airlines "from charging up to $50 roundtrip for families just to sit together."


QUICK HITS

Desantis said he would not choose RFK Jr as a running mate, but would consider him to be in charge of the FDA or CDC "if he'd be willing to serve." pic.twitter.com/7hHJlHGnQ6

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) July 26, 2023

• The Federal Reserve has raised interest rates by another quarter percentage point. "The hike, the Fed's 11th in its last 12 meetings, set the benchmark overnight interest rate in the 5.25%-5.50% range, a level last seen just prior to the 2007 housing market crash and which has not been consistently exceeded for about 22 years," notes Reuters.

• A judge is questioning a deal that would allow Hunter Biden to plead guilty to two misdemeanor tax charges and avoid prosecution on a gun charge. "The federal judge overseeing the case, Maryellen Noreika, deferred her decision on approving the deal between Mr. Biden and federal prosecutors on Wednesday afternoon," reports The New York Times. But the judge's questions "should not obscure the point that the law he broke is unjust and arguably unconstitutional," writes Reason's Jacob Sullum.

• "The U.K. Parliament is pushing ahead with a sprawling internet regulation bill that will, among other things, undermine the privacy of people around the world," warns the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

• A Circleville, Ohio, police officer "who released his police dog on a black truck driver who was surrendering earlier this month — ignoring clear orders to restrain the animal — has been fired," reports the New York Post.

• RIP Sinéad O'Connor.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    "The American public has a right to learn" about UFOs, lawmaker says

    New distraction just dropped.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Anything to get our minds of the turducken scandal.

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        It's also not like anybody testified that alien lifeforms were found. A "non-biologic" could be a drone.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

          If they did, we would all be eating lab grown little green men.

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          2. HorseConch   2 years ago

            Non-biologic is an apt description of the 17 ribbon admiral of health, Rachel Levine.

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          3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            Would they be Vulklingulans? Or Borgmugatribbles? And would they be brewed up in Dr. "Bones" lab or placed in each other by Scotty's transporter?
            🙂

        2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

          If aliens were sending shit here, drones would make more sense than them actually coming here in person.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Not if they are tourists.

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              Cite?

      2. MK Ultra   2 years ago

        This is gonna be (another) evergreen White Mikerism.

        Someone yesterday mentioned "...and I coined it!", and, while I remember the phrase, my old-ass brain can't recall the situation. Would someone be kind enough to remind me?

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

          https://reason.com/2023/07/26/judge-blocks-biden-administrations-strict-asylum-restrictions/?comments=true#comment-10170304

          He mentioned turducken as an example of meat grown in a lab.

          1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

            Holy shit. The things I miss out on due to my stupid job!

            1. R Mac   2 years ago

              I’m picturing a game show called “Who said this dumb shit!” where contestants are read stupid shit, and they have to guess if it was Dee, sarc, or Lying Jeffy that said it.

            2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

              I missed it due to vacation. Stupid vacation

          2. mad.casual   2 years ago

            Somebody copied the comment from behind the gray box in one of the other forum posts. While turducken was touchstone retarded, it really, IMO, didn't capture the breadth and depth of his stupidity. Even the rest of his statement is essentially:
            "Forget about all the problems of nutrition, taste, culture, and commercial food production we've struggled with, iteratively, for over two centuries! Science is here to solve your problems with genes!"

        2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

          Here is the origin of the HO2 meme.

          https://reason.com/2021/11/02/joe-biden-presses-ahead-with-vaccine-mandates-inviting-legal-challenges/?comments=true#comment-9189606

          1. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

            The best part was when he fought tooth and nail against the entire commentariat, insisting he was right. Then he was "technically right". Then "Tulpa said it".

            1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

              Yeah, the doubling down on lab grown turducken was awesome!

              Mike Laursen 23 hours ago (edited)
              Except I don’t agree it’s a poor comparison. Both liberals and Bob are engaging in knee-jerk rejection of new technologies.

              1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                And I’ll triple down. It ain’t my problem that you are too dense to understand the point.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  The only person who doesn't understand is you Mike. When even sarc understands your point was nonsense you should stop doubling down.

                2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                  And I’ll triple turducken down.

                3. R Mac   2 years ago

                  Chicken Cordon Bleu is just like lab grown chicken.

                4. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

                  Look, Mike, if I made a mistake like this, I ‘d be doubling down –and doubling over— at laughing at myself along with everybody else.
                  🙂

                  It’s OK to be ignorant. We’re all ignorant at something. We all have to eat turducken crow once in a while.
                  😉

                  1. R Mac   2 years ago

                    Dee eating crow would be cannibalism.

                  2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                    I didn’t make any mistake.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Quintupling down, Laursen? You're not gonna live the Turducken Incident down any time soon.

            2. Ajsloss   2 years ago

              Technically right on the turducken...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrA--Nw2tYo

              1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                Now we know where Mike gets his science.

            3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

              He repeated the "faked by Tulpa" claim yesterday. In the thread from 2 years ago he posted multiple comments within minutes of that post that were without question in his own voice. Why would an effort to discredit Mike include ripping on Ken about vaccines after posting an inane backwards water joke?

              The denial is reason it became a meme. Proof of gaslighting.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                WTF is it with this go-to for blaming "Tulpa" for something they said or did?

            4. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

              While we may not agree on vat meat, we do share a belly-inside-a-belly-inside-a-belly-laugh at what the White Mike is cooking!
              🙂

              1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

                We did make a turducken for Thanksgiving once, just to try it, and it was one of the worst things we’ve ever eaten.

          2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

            Nah, he did it before then. In a discussion with me and someone else. We were talking about the evils of (di-) Hydrogen Monoxide and arguing about wdhether the di- was necessary and He said “Hydrogen dioxide was also technically correct “

            1. VinniUSMC   2 years ago

              Yeah, HO2 predates this backwards water gaffe. But, the backwards water gaffe I'm willing to let slide. Without the subscript, "H2O" backwards is "O2H". Even though, obviously, dihydrogen monoxide backwards is not.

              That's the only pass you're getting Liarson. You're earlier hydrogen dioxide gaffe, however, still leaves you as HO2 boy.

        3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

          I don't have a link, but for a full two weeks after 1/6/2021, Mike's only response to anyone questioning the "insurrection" was to call them a traitor. Then for another month after the NYT admitted they had lied about the death of Brian Sicknick, he insisted that Sicknick had been killed with a fire extinguisher. Then he spent about 2-3 weeks insisting that bear spray caused the stroke. I assume he still links Sicknick's death to 1/6. I know that NPR does.

          1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

            Oh, it was months , not weeks

        4. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

          Man I wish I remembered what “i coined it” was about. Mike was so happy to repeat some retarded term over and over.

        5. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          "Someone yesterday mentioned “…and I coined it!”"

          I believe that was White Knight constantly talking about right-leaning libertarians? It was something involving conservative in the name, I think. Ill remember it at some point. But it was definitely white knight mike that said it

          1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

            Thats it

          2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

            I believe the coinage from yesterday was more along the lines of one of mikes adversaries saying they coined “mike liarson”, or “lying Jeffy” or something like that. I don’t think it was mike himself who said it, but he was in the thread and being mocked for his nonsense, as usual.

            1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

              I think it was “white cite”.

        6. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

          Found it!

          I saved a post where he said there was no such thing as natural rights.

          https://reason.com/2021/02/11/impeachment-evidence-leaves-republicans-cold-dems-hot-and-america-tired/?comments=true#comment-8757012

          In another thread he mentions CACLL, which is the acronym he claims to have coined around that same time.

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

            White Mike: the gift nobody wants that keeps on giving.

            1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

              Soooo...fruitcake?
              😉

              1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                Yes, he is.

            2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Worse than the Jelly of the Month Club.

          2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

            AH!! It was right on the tip of my tongue but wouldn't come out.

            Conservative and conservative leaning libertarians - CACLL

            "And I coined it!" - white knight

            1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

              It was right on the tip of my tongue but wouldn’t come out.

              Which is coincidentally also a phrase coined by White Mike while trying to fellate a drunken Sarcasmic's shrunken flaccid member.

            2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              It was a useful and accurate label that the White Knight came up with.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Are you still pretending you aren't the same person?

                Mike Laursen 2 years ago
                Flag Comment Mute User
                White Knight pointed out, correctly, that you are very logical, but quite unaware that you often engage in not seeking out information that goes against your narratives, garbage-in/garbage-out logic, and not checking your conclusions for basic sanity. You should have listened to White Knight.

                If you're this dishonest about being a sock, it proves you will be dishonest about anything.

                1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

                  Who are you to say that White Mike can't reinvent himself to escape the stupid things he said in the past!

                  Mike Laursen 2 years ago
                  You should have listened to White Knight.

                  Or, um, to reclaim the things he said?... uh, I give up. What a dipshit.

                  1. MK Ultra   2 years ago

                    Transturduckenation?

                2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                  The Meridian Moron literally stated that he decided to "lean into" the name because people were mocking him for simping for the left all the time.

                  Throwing his outrage right back in his face when limped out about J6 was one of my finer moments on this board, if I do say so myself.

              2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                In fact, I’m going to start using his terminology! See comments below…

                1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

                  I’m going to start using his terminology!

                  Mike's gaslight shines with the brightness of 1000 stars.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Mike's Siriusly retarded.

              3. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

                *wink*, yup, white knight came up with it, we got ya brother 😉

          3. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Lol. Thanks.

          4. R Mac   2 years ago

            Haha, CACLL! That was great.

          5. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

            Oh, I remember CACLL.

            Does everyone else mentally pronounce that as "cackle" as well? Because that's really more of a Kamala thing...

            1. R Mac   2 years ago

              It sounds a lot like squawking.

        7. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          "Ageless and Evergreen" as Babs would put it.
          🙂

      3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        The aliens implanted the birds inside each other. 🙂

    2. MatthewSlyfield   2 years ago

      They fly. We have no idea what the fuck they are.

      The name Unidentified Flying Object kind of says it all.

    3. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      The truth is out there.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Well, it's certainly not in D.C.

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        And, unfortunately, it’s probably more boring than the public’s speculations.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          Cite?

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The American public has a right to learn about technologies of unknown origins, nonhuman intelligence and unexplainable phenomena...

    Nice to know we have the right to learn about something, I guess.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      But we have no right to know what happened to Mitch McConnell.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        Transient ischemic attack

        1. Eeyore   2 years ago

          Seems likely.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Software crash.

      2. MatthewSlyfield   2 years ago

        He got old. What else is there to know.

      3. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        Notable was the deluge of articles and MSM coverage of McConnell having his little mini stroke but near zero coverage of Biden's daily falling over, tripping up stairs, wondering around and having a handler put him back on track, babbling incoherently with word salads, and having queue cards that look like they were written for an invalid.

        Hell, the MSM only started covering Feinstein's decline because it got so egregious and some of the moments/photos are so bad its hard to hide. Well, that and she occupies a reliable seat that can 100% safely be handed down to a younger person that checks all the fashionable diversity boxes while also never straying for a second off the ideological democrat plantation.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Feinstein's case is one of the more egregious examples of elder abuse I've ever seen. The woman has no fucking clue where she even is anymore.

          Is it really that hard to find a spry 70-year old Democrat in California to take her place?

          1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

            "Is it really that hard to find a spry 70-year old Democrat in California"

            Oh they will be lining up another Harris / Jean-Pierre to take her place. A younger, woman of color, who will happily have praised showered upon her by the media for her historic bravery while never daring to question the old whites that control the party.

            Newsom will be lobbying hard for the above. He to pay penance for the ongoing sin of being ultra rich, white, male, cis, and hetero. He's basically going to have to push for a disabled, gender queer, BIPOC candidate to make up for his sins

          2. Krokko   2 years ago

            Biden and Feinstein on the golf course...
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhknFgI8tJY

        2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          Too bad Biden cured cancer and not strokes.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      "technologies of unknown origins, nonhuman intelligence and unexplainable phenomena"

      Just don't ask about those things in the context of elections.

    3. Eeyore   2 years ago

      The government wants to crack down on mis dis mal information whatever those are - but believing pure fiction is totally cool.

  3. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

    Nothing on uncovering the corruption and crimes of the Biden family? Or the doj, or the nih, or.... Name a gov agency

    1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      There's more important topics to cover. Like UFOs.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Look! An alien squirrel!

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          Sqrlsy being an alien explains a lot, actually.

        2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

          It's so shiny!

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    All mainstream criticism—especially of film and television—is evangelical in form, if not in content...

    If culture consumers don't learn the right lesson, do they have a right to consume culture at all?

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Desantis said he would not choose RFK Jr as a running mate, but would consider him to be in charge of the FDA or CDC "if he'd be willing to serve."

    The hilarity that would ensue is enough for my vote.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago (edited)

      The funniest part is DeSantis thinking he can win

      1. Diarrheality   2 years ago

        Or his tacitly admitting the FDA and CDC should exist in the first place.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      my favorite part is all the mask moms in the media getting the vapors over the suggestion. "he can't be head of the CDC, he doesn't believe in The Science!"

      Neither did the last one.

  6. Idaho Bob   2 years ago (edited)

    We are proud to announce this rule that will make airplane bathrooms larger and more accessible, ensuring travelers in wheelchairs are afforded the same access and dignity as the rest of the traveling public,” said Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg in a statement.

    Mile High Club just got a little easier.

    1. Jerryskids   2 years ago

      It's for the benefit of the service animals such as miniature ponies and giraffes. For the Mile High Club. We know what Mayor Pete has in mind.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        His flying companion, Ben Dover.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

          Not Amanda Hugginkiss? We need transparency on Mayor Pete's fellow travelers!

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            I'd Amanda Hugginkiss.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Wouldn't that be the Mile High Orgy?

    2. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      To continue the process of stating the obvious, because no one else does: people in wheelchairs are not the same as the people who are not in wheelchairs.
      To review -
      men are men, that doesn't change
      women are women, that doesn't change
      the earth is not flat, that doesn't change

      1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

        Pete Buttigieg is a moron. That does not change.

    3. Eeyore   2 years ago

      I propose a different law. Very equitable and fair.

      Ban bathrooms in airplanes.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Better: charge $10 for airfare but $500 to use the toilet.

        1. Eeyore   2 years ago

          ...and the diuretic drinks are free.

      2. Jerry B.   2 years ago

        Yep. If you gotta go, go outside.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          Everyone gets cathed, and the line drains out the back of the plane.

      3. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        Or make faster rocket engines.
        https://www.thebrighterside.news/post/breakthrough-rocket-engine-could-accelerate-to-99-the-speed-of-light

    4. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Prediction: Just about the time this highly expensive refitting of aircraft is finished, it will be found unnecessary because of the development of affordable exoskeletons and techniques to heal neural damage.

      1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

        Why not predict teleportation? End air transport completely.

        Or does that interfere with the ever-expanding lab grown turducken technological progress?

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Turducken will change human health more than golden rice ever did.

        2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          “Why not predict teleportation? End air transport completely.”

          Because there are actually many stories in the news about research and development of the two technologies I mentioned, whereas nobody has managed to teleport anything bigger than maybe some subatomic particles.

          1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

            Because there are actually many stories in the news about research and development...

            "Many stories". Yeah, you said the same thing about safe and effective covid vaccines. You've been duped. Again.

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              That didn’t even make sense.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                What, did you make the mistake of rereading your own posts, Laursen?

        3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

          I’ll quadruple down on my “turducken” prediction: someone is going to go beyond trying to grow meat that merely passes for its animal-grown equivalent by attempting to create a cultured meat that tastes better than and/or is more nutritious than any animal-grown equivalent.

          And I predict all of this future technology will deeply disturb a certain CACLL reactionary holed up in his Northern Idaho compound trying desperately to oppose anything new in the world.

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            But it won’t be turducken.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Do you think jalapeño poppers are a form of lab grown super pepper?

          3. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

            I’ll quadruple down on my “turducken” prediction: someone is going to go beyond trying to grow meat that merely passes for its animal-grown equivalent by attempting to create a cultured meat that tastes better than and/or is more nutritious than any animal-grown equivalent.

            Now do baby formula vs breast milk. Formula cannot pass immunities or allergen resistance. Honey is another example. There are measurable gains from consuming local produce, dairy, and meats. But hey, you are welcome to eat Soylent Green.

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              This is hilarious. You argue against things I say without even comprehending what I actually said.

              I never said that the results would turn out well, or that I would want to consume the results of their efforts. All I said was that I predict someone will try it.

              Sheesh, you are a knee-jerk reactionary.

          4. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

            And I predict all of this future technology will deeply disturb a certain CACLL reactionary holed up in his Northern Idaho compound trying desperately to oppose anything new in the world.

            You confuse tech with biotech. I oppose the shit that government and leftists like you are trying to force into my body to combat plandemics/climate change. I fully embrace autonomous drones, motion sensing equipment, infrared, and laser guided targeting around my compound.

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              LOL, I’m not forcing anything on you. Every time Reason writes something about the new business of cultured meat, you get all weird about it.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                OK, Mr. Turducken.

              2. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

                Every time Reason writes something about the new business of cultured meat, you get all weird about it.

                The natural order works for the entire planet except leftists. Enjoy your processed goo.

                1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                  There's nothing particularly natural about most animal husbandry. It is a history of thousands of years of breeding to produce animals that have traits not found in nature, and to make the animals docile.

                  And, as I'm sure you know well, there is a lot of human involvement in hunting and fishery management.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Laursen, animal husbandry (and for that matter, plant breeding) uses the natural processes to function. Lab created meat, turducken notwithstanding, is not anywhere the same as animal husbandry. It is literally growing "meat" in a lab from the basic building block, amino acids, of meat.

                    Are you retarded or something?

                    1. R Mac   2 years ago

                      Yes.

                  2. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

                    There’s nothing particularly natural about most animal husbandry. It is a history of thousands of years of breeding to produce animals that have traits not found in nature, and to make the animals docile.

                    And, as I’m sure you know well, there is a lot of human involvement in hunting and fishery management.

                    I realize you'll find a way to justify anything the gov't imposes on its citizens, but will you feed this to your kids?

                    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                      Feed what to my kids? Fish?

          5. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Man, you have a lot to learn about engastration.

            I also must ask you if you've seen a jackalope.

            1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

              I think there used to be a man-bear-pig out Colorado way.

              1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

                Still out there. We’re all in grave danger. I’m super cereal.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  Wonder if Mike will ever get a raging clue.

        4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

          Or does that interfere with the ever-expanding lab grown turducken technological progress?

          Interfere, or perfect?

          What if you could teleport a turkey, a duck and a chicken to the exact same location at the same time?

          1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

            Add Liarson, and we get a modern version of The Fly.

            1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

              "HELP MEEEEEEEE!!!" 😉

      2. Eeyore   2 years ago

        Canada won't need bigger bathrooms once M.A.I.D. is the only approved treatment for disability.

        Medicare won't be far behind.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The Federal Reserve has raised interest rates by another quarter percentage point.

    And here I thought Joe had us out of the inflation emergency already.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      He would have if Republicans had let him spent the gazillion he asked for!

  8. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago


    The Federal Reserve has raised interest rates by another quarter percentage point.

    Great job, ENB. Yes, the Fed is furiously trying to throw the economy into recession.

    But the economy is TOO HOT:

    The Economy Defies Expectations. GDP Surges 2.4%.
    By Angela PalumboFollow
    Updated July 27, 2023 8:53 am ET / Original July 27, 2023 1:15 am ET

    The U.S. economy grew at a 2.4% annual rate in the second quarter, according to the first estimate of second-quarter gross domestic product, a surprise pickup from the first-quarter’s 2% growth and better than economists’ projections.

    Barrons

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      2.4% is not hot.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        The hike, the Fed's 11th in its last 12 meetings

        The Fed wants to cool it down. Powell wants UE up to 6%.

        Of course everyone is a Fed critic.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          They want to cool down inflation dumdum.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Can't cool off inflation with wages/income rising, idiot.

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              LOL

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

              You truly are this dumb aren’t you.

              Real wages are down under Joe dummy.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                Jul 12, 2023 - Economy & Business
                Wages are finally rising faster than inflation
                .
                By the numbers: Real average hourly earnings are up 1.2% in the 12 months ended in June

                Axios

                You're a moron, Jesse

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Sigh...

                  https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/real-wages-under-joe-biden-were-down-26th/

                  The latest inflation numbers were released earlier today.
                  .
                  And real wages adjusted for inflation are down for the 26th straight month under Joe Biden – a new American record.

                  A graph of inflation adjusted wages.

                  https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1668602250254589955/photo/1

                2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Using government data.

                  https://budget.house.gov/press-release/fiscal-state-of-the-union-bidens-real-wage-decline/

                  More articles.

                  https://nypost.com/2022/10/06/americans-saw-most-severe-pay-cut-in-25-years-under-biden/

                3. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  CNN

                  into their paychecks. Real wages, adjusted for inflation, have declined, making it harder for Americans to get by.

                  OECD

                  https://www.oecd.org/newsroom/double-blow-for-workers-as-inflation-drives-real-wages-down-and-labour-taxes-up.htm

                  I can keep doing this dumdum.

                  1. R Mac   2 years ago

                    You could, but it wouldn’t matter. The pedo doesn’t even read his own links, he sure isn’t reading yours.

                4. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Your favorite WSJ.

                  https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-inflation-costs-workers-joe-biden-jerome-powell-cpi-price-increases-11642016349

                  1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                    Between the turd, Jeff and Mike, I feel like I’m getting a lot of free comedy here.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Same here. It's tough not to laugh out loud when they type their crappola.

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Oh noes!

      https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-trucking-firm-yellow-prepares-bankruptcy-wsj-2023-07-26/

      1. Krokko   2 years ago

        Apparently this rig count is down.

    3. JesseAz   2 years ago

      So it grew at half the rate of inflation where inflation causes gdp to rise in the calculation. This isn't the win you think it is dumdum.

    4. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  9. damikesc   2 years ago

    Legit shocked ENB mentioned the plea deal collapse.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      The Trump Cult supports tough gun laws and the IRS when it suits them politically.

      1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

        The DNC cult supports both continuously.

      2. damikesc   2 years ago

        We support enforcement of laws ON THE BOOKS, yes.

        And also not having Presidents offer blatantly sleazy deals to benefit their kids who financially support them.

        Also...what is up with Biden having multiple dogs with serious biting issues? Two different dogs doing the same thing indicates the problem is the owner, not the dog.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          what is up with Biden having multiple dogs with serious biting issues?

          OMG! The Biden Dog Biting Scandal! Why is ENB white-washing that one?

          1. damikesc   2 years ago

            Seems odd that multiple dogs have this issue.

            Perhaps Joe is not capable of raising dogs. We've seen he's the shits at raising children.

            1. Diarrheality   2 years ago

              Perhaps Joe is not capable of raising dogs.

              Any dog that can't be stuffed into a purse is beyond the control of that loudmouthed counterfeit Chad.

          2. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

          3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Call us when the dog bites Hunter's penis.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Joe took showers with them as pups causing the same issues his kids have.

          1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

            Damn, Jesse. Not the puppies!

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Joe relates to dogs because they love sniffing too.

              1. Zeb   2 years ago

                He's just jealous he can't get away with sniffing everyone's butthole.

                1. R Mac   2 years ago

                  We only see the sniffing he does in public…

        3. Jerry B.   2 years ago

          They get into Hunter’s coke, and just go wild.

        4. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          Really? The latest CACLL talking point is Biden’s dogs?

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            He is bringing it back guys!!!!!

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Mike's bringin' retard back (Yeah)
              Them other boys don't know how to act (Yeah)
              He thinks it's special, what's behind your back? (Yeah)
              So turn around and he'll pick up the slack (Yeah)

          2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            What a loser.

          3. Zeb   2 years ago

            No. Or if it is it's silly and unimportant. But it's in the news, so the question of why presidents can't train their fucking dogs properly comes up.

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Why wouldn’t she?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        You tell us since you follow her around on Twitter like a lost puppy dog.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A judge is questioning a deal that would allow Hunter Biden to plead guilty to two misdemeanor tax charges and avoid prosecution on a gun charge.

    I'm Team Hunter on this, all the way. No one deserves to be Al Caponed.

    1. MK Ultra   2 years ago

      Becoming neurosyphilistic? Both Bidens most certainly deserve that.

    2. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      Except he's apparently being immunized for everything else now and in the future.

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        And sneaking it (the lifetime immunity) into the pretrial diversion and NOT the plea deal was a totally NOT a shady move.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

          There is no reason to think that the DOJ isn't playing both sides.

          After what Trump's administration did to Flynn, we know they no longer care who the current President is and have no compunctions about using family as leverage. If they convict Hunter he can be pardoned. If they can contrive a scenario where he can always be convicted later, they maintain leverage.

          Never assume the entrenched bureaucracy are not conspiring to eat their own.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The U.K. Parliament is pushing ahead with a sprawling internet regulation bill that will, among other things, undermine the privacy of people around the world...

    THE EMPIRE IS BACK, BABY!

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      And just as cunty as ever.

  12. Nardz   2 years ago

    "Don't look at the massive corruption of the federal government and Biden administration (or Obama's personal chef being killed on his property), LOOK AT THE ALIENS WHICH ARE TOTES REAL DESPITE NO EVIDENCE AND LOGIC THAT MAKES NO SENSE!"
    -Reason

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Little green men pounce articles incoming.

    2. Nardz   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1684581200986611713?t=f7b91nOHhOjve4693j0EeQ&s=19

      NEW - U.S. Justice Department drops campaign finance charge against Sam Bankman-Fried. The former "crypto king" made one of the largest donations to Biden's campaign in 2020.

      [Link]

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        He’s old news. Time to move on.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A Circleville, Ohio, police officer "who released his police dog on a black truck driver who was surrendering earlier this month — ignoring clear orders to restrain the animal — has been fired..."

    We'll circleville back later to see what other Ohio department hires him and gives him a dangerous dog.

    1. Ska   2 years ago

      I'm taking my Circleville Jerks albums out of storage.

    2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      He led troopers on a 25-minute chase through Chillicothe, driving erratically and narrowly avoiding spike sticks before a second set blew out his tires on Route 23 in Circleville, about 30 miles south of Columbus.

      "Didn't do nuffin'! Why the cops hate the black man so much?"

      I mean, I don't condone releasing a dog on someone who has surrendered, but this guy went out of his way to earn an ass beating.

      Like Chris Rock says, if you make the cops chase you, they're bringing a whuppin' with them.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        I drive through that area once a year, used to several times a year. It’s not exactly mountainous, but it’s hilly with a lot of windy roads. Chasing someone for 25 miles there could be pretty intense.

  14. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

    Who knows, maybe a big juicy government cover-up involving aliens—even one that's pretty purely speculative at this point—is exactly what American politics in 2023 needs…

    What America needs is a change in narrative, a distraction. Because one side is corrupt and incompentent and can no longer hide it. Funny how ENB is willing to go along with this red herring.

    1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      What America needs is a change in narrative, a distraction.

      This is exactly what the DNC is doing. Can't have Americans focusing on the administration, or more specifically, the Biden family.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        I guess. The UFO hearings started last May.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Cite?

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      Lighten up, Francis.

      Also what dastardly dems they must be to get a Repub to hold a committee hearing to distract from Dem corruption.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        It is cute you don't think there will be some GOPe caught up in Biden's graft.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago (edited)

          I wouldn’t doubt it – Keating 5 comes to mind. But you are the one who stated "one side".

          I just think it is absurd to think the alien hearing and media coverage is an attempt to sweep corruption under the rug. It is a 1-2 day story that will be gone tomorrow.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Basically agree with your take, but want to point out these UFO hearings have been going on since May 2022.

    3. Jerry B.   2 years ago

      “Because one side is corrupt and incompentent and can no longer hide it.”

      Why limit it to one side?

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        The other side can hide it better?

        The whole political establishment is certainly corrupt. I wish they were a little more incompetent, though, when it comes to that corruption.

    4. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Just one side?

  15. Jerryskids   2 years ago

    If they're trotting out Aliens Live Among Us! they must have something really big they're trying to distract us from or they're really getting desperate. Aliens visiting the Earth by flying Maseratis from Persei 8 makes for one hell of an uncomfortable trip, not to mention interstellar travel in a spaceship that can withstand Earth's atmosphere makes no sense.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      The mothership does the interstellar traveling, duh. And miserable trip *snort*; they're getting down in 3D, light year groovin, putting a glide in your stride and a dip your hip.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Zaphod Beeblebrox couldn’t have said it better.

        1. MK Ultra   2 years ago

          Your musings are worse than Vogon poetry.

    2. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      I'll start worrying when the dolphins start leaving.

      "So long, and thanks for all the fish!"

  16. Honest Economics   2 years ago

    For sound economic perspective go to https://honesteconomics.substack.com/

    1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Explain how the Star Trek Universe did without money or fuck no!

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Didn’t they kinda fudge on that premise with “Deep Space Nine”.

  17. Jerryskids   2 years ago

    You forgot to mention that the judge in the Hunter Biden case was appointed by Donald Trump, as was the prosecutor. This is generally mentioned in the headline so that it's perfectly clear the judge is biased and the prosecutor is not.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      Blue slip judge who also worked in appointments under Obama. She was also a Hillary Clinton donor.

      That's how fucked up the plea deal was.

  18. creech   2 years ago

    Has anyone noticed that UFOs became a thing shortly after the birth of Donald Trump? Coincidence? I don't think so. And what about that U.S. Space Force that Trump created? How many battles against the alien UFOs have they won?
    We need the FBI and state attorney generals to start looking into the obvious connections between Big Martian and their puppet, Donald Trump.

    1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      Little green orange men?

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        Ha!

      2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Clemson University? This will make Rev. Artie's pea-brain blow a fuse!
        😉

        1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

          I believe that's Syracuse. Clemson is the Tigers.

          I'm actually kind of surprise Syracuse hasn't changed their mascot because Trump.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            You're right. And it looks like I'm even further behind than I thought:

            Goodbye Orangemen: Syracuse cleans up nickname as part of identity remake (from the archive)
            Published: May. 12, 2004, 10:00 a.m.
            https://www.syracuse.com/orangesports/2004/05/goodbye_orangemen_orangewomen_syracuse_cleans_up_nickname_as_part_of_identity_re.html

            Sooo...Orangex?

    2. Eeyore   2 years ago

      The space force has been 100% effective at preventing alien invasion.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Mission Accomplished!

      2. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        If you don't count the lizard people already here.

      3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Or have they?

      4. Diarrheality   2 years ago

        Kind of like the magical rock I found that keeps me from stepping in tiger shit and finds magnetic north when used with a compass.

  19. GroundTruth   2 years ago

    "Who knows, maybe a big juicy government cover-up involving aliens—even one that's pretty purely speculative at this point—is exactly what American politics in 2023 needs…"

    What American politics needs is to focus on reducing give-aways and regulations, and increasing the liberty enjoyed by every person in the US.

    That the house is having hearings on UFO cover-ups can only be explained as not wanting to show how much cash is probably being burned on chasing down UFO sightings and crash investigations. (It is beyond belief that a culture that could build a vehicle capable of interstellar travel couldn't also design functional landing technologies capable of safely putting down pretty much wherever they want when they get here.)

    Yeah, there's a cover-up, but it's about government wasting money, not reverse-engineering ET's runabout.

  20. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Who is less self aware, sarc or mehdi


    Mehdi Hasan
    @mehdirhasan
    Imagine if liberals or the Dems had a nationwide messaging apparatus, an actual propaganda arm, which pumped out Jared Kushner’s name and alleged misdeeds daily, 100s of times. Then you start to understand the messaging imbalance in this country & how GOP gets away with so much.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      Might sarc BE Mehdi?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Don't think Mehdi drinks THAT much.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          Not familiar with this person. Do they have some sort of career? If so, definitely not sarc.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Would being a Democrat progtard mouthpiece on MSNBC be a career?

            1. R Mac   2 years ago

              Not a worthy one, but yes.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      The same Kush, who was the Jewish face of white supremacy?

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Be fair! "Knowledge" only counts things that happened in the past couple of months, except for sedition, insurrection, and mean tweets.

  21. JesseAz   2 years ago

    The most interesting and corrupt part of the Hunter plea deal was an aspect to block Hunter from testifying in any case despite immunity, likely to protect Joe from any investigations.

    Think about this. DOJ was about to sanction a plea deal where Hunter would get misdemeanor probation on serious tax charges plus pretrial diversion (no time served or criminal record) on the felony gun charge. Hunter would also get complete immunity on all other charges. And he would not have to cooperate with the government’s ongoing investigation. Totally disgraceful. Merrick Garland and David Weiss should be ashamed. And where is Lisa Monaco? Why hasn’t she been called to testify?

    https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2023/07/26/breaking-hunter-biden-pleads-not-guilty-after-judge-rejects-sweetheart-plea-deal-that-included-global-immunity-n782361

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      No corruption here. None at all. You frequently hear of secret parts of a plea deal that the judge cannot do anything about outside of reject the entire deal.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      “Immunity in perpetuity”.
      Nobody gets that.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Nobody also gets paid millions by foreign corporations and governments, and sleeps with widows of siblings.

  22. JesseAz   2 years ago

    A presentation offered by employees of the Hawaii Department of Health encourages staff and graduate students at the University of Hawaii Center for Cognitive Behavior Therapy not to document their conversations with LGBTQ+ youth in an effort to keep parents in the dark about their child's sexual identity.
    .
    The training, titled "Affirming practice with LGBTQ+ youth" and obtained by Fox News Digital through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, was delivered to staff and graduate students at the university on May 5 by two members of the Hawaii Department of Health’s Child and Adolescent Mental Health Division’s Safe Spaces Committee. The presenters were Kimberly Allen, chair of the Safe Spaces Committee, and Robin Lee, a member of the committee.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hawaii-health-department-trains-future-therapists-conceal-conversations-lgbt-youth-parents

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Parents are white supremacy oppression.

  23. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Some strange testimony from the UFO hearings even hinting at murder covering it up.

    Burchett: Do you have any personal knowledge of people that have been harmed or injured in efforts to cover up or conceal these extraterrestrial technology?
    .
    Grusch: Yes. Personally.
    .
    Burchett followed up by asking if, to Grusch’s knowledge, anyone had been “murdered.”
    .
    Grusch replied: “I have to be careful asking that question. I directed people with that knowledge to the appropriate authorities.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-10-most-incredible-exchanges-from-the-house-uap-hearing

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Everyone will be shocked when they reveal the alien turducken technology transfer.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Turducken is a WEF population control conspiracy.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Also a meat-fluid entree.

  24. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

    The sightings, including some that are believed to be drones or unmanned craft — like the Chinese surveillance airship shot down in U.S. airspace earlier this year — have fueled concerns that American adversaries could have developed new technologies that pose a threat to U.S. security.

    So they're going to use UFOs as an excuse to get more money for the defense budget. I guess the possibility of WW3 wasn't cutting it.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      The wat is near term profits. Alien technology is long term.

    2. Krokko   2 years ago

      The WaPo says it was a "surveillance airship?" I thought the press was reporting it as a harmless experiment before. Am I mis-remembering?

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        I don't recall anyone insisting it was anything but a surveillance thing. But I don't spend a lot of time paying attention to "the press".

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          You’re missing out. They’re a hoot.

      2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

        I thought the press was reporting it as a harmless experiment before.

        I thought that was China's lame excuse, but I don't remember if anyone really ever believed that. Maybe some of the MSM just uncritically repeated it until after it was shot down, at which point they switched to uncritically repeating our government's story, which was that it was a surveillance balloon but that there was nothing to worry about and anyone who says otherwise is a crazy right wing nutjob.

  25. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "The American public has a right to learn" about UFOs, lawmaker says.

    Can we classify Hunter Biden as a UFO?

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      Is it still a UFO if is so high its outside our atmosphere?

  26. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

    "I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multidecade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access,"

    It's always nice when the government tells you about a supersecret program that you were denied access to.

    1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      It’s always nice when the government tells you about a supersecret program that you were denied access to.

      That's one of the main reasons why I think this guy is full of shit. How would he know about the existence of the program if he was denied access to it? Also, it's far more likely that someone told him that there was a program for retrieval and reverse engineering of UFOs as either a joke and he was dumb enough to believe it, or the program in question is actually for retrieving crashed Russian/ Chinese/ whoever's vehicles and he just broke out his Jump to Conclusions Mat. Or he's just lying about all of it. So, he's most likely either a liar or a dumbass.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        There's a lot of people who are fucking desperate for there to be aliens visiting us, because they think it will open the door for high technology toys, like the Vulcans giving Earthlings the tech for interstellar travel.

        It's a lot more likely that any beings advanced enough to travel across galaxies would squash humanity like bugs.

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          Why do you think they would squash us? I hear this from a lot of people, but I'm not sure why it seems so obvious.

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            How do you treat insects?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              I sure as hell don't eat them.

            2. Zeb   2 years ago

              I leave them alone unless they are a threat or annoyance to me or are likely to damage my property.
              Is that the right comparison, though? Since we have never encountered another intelligent race, let alone one that is so far advanced that we would seem like insects to them, this is all entirely speculative. And I'd question whether it's even sensible to think that we would appear as insects to a highly advanced alien. Not everything is relative. Maybe intelligent consciousness is a special distinction that is clear even to a much more advanced version of it. Or maybe they aren't any smarter than us, but have just had more time to develop.
              What I think is most likely, though, is that interstellar travel on short time scales just isn't practical and visits from aliens extremely unlikely even if there is lots of intelligent life out there.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            High technology typically doesn't treat low technology very well.

            1. Zeb   2 years ago

              If they had some use for our planet or resources, I suppose that makes sense. But if they have control of the energy needed to be an interstellar civilization, we might just not even be worth bothering with unless we possess something extremely rare.

              1. Zeb   2 years ago

                Which I suppose also suggests that they probably aren't visiting us. Unless we are just subjects of scientific study or something.

    2. SRG   2 years ago

      It seemed obvious to me that if the US got hold of some advanced Russian or Chinese tech, they'd want to reverse engineer it and access to the tech would be heavily restricted. No need to invoke aliens.

      It also seems obvious that the US is developing secret aerial tech and whoever is developing is going to keep it, you known, secret - including from agencies and Congress. Nor will they volunteer that this is what a USAF pilot might have seen.

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        Those do seem like better explanations than aliens for most of it.

  27. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "We are proud to announce this rule that will make airplane bathrooms larger and more accessible, ensuring travelers in wheelchairs are afforded the same access and dignity as the rest of the traveling public," said Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg in a statement.

    Meh. Call us when Mayor Pete declares mandates for cockpits that accommodate wheel chairs and seeing-eye dogs.

    1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      The rule will not make the bathrooms larger. Some hard done by teams of engineers will have to figure out how to retrofit a 10 gal bucket into a 5 gal space to make them larger.

  28. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'But the Biden administration has been weirdly fixated on all the rules surrounding air travel. At times it seems like President Joe Biden is trying to situate himself as travel agent in chief.'

    It all started when Joe was refused a ride on the Wright Brothers test flight.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      Not because Daedalus left him on Crete?

    2. SRG   2 years ago

      Of course he was refused - as Simon Newcomb pointed out, heavier-than-air flight is impossible with a passenger.

  29. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

    UFOs are a distraction.

    Pilots have nothing except their experience and instincts to tell them what they are seeing and the human brain finds patterns and is notoriously bad at determining the size of objects, let alone relative speed, without proper reference. And for some reason, people have a nasty habit of pointing lasers at airplanes.

    As far as reports from scientists claiming to have have seen the physical evidence of UFOs, think it through for a second. If you are a top secret military outpost and you need the opinion or expertise of a civilian on military tech without swearing them to secrecy for 50 years, just tell them you found it at a crash site. If they talk about what they have seen, they are easily discredited and revealed as the source of the leak.

    It also explains why people claim to have seen alien autopsies, but never claim to have performed them or provided the analysis.

  30. Eeyore   2 years ago

    When they finally audit the budget for the investigation into aliens - it will oddly be 100% hookers, blow, and fine dining.

    1. R Mac   2 years ago

      90%. 10% goes to the big guy.

      1. Eeyore   2 years ago

        Fair enough.

  31. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

    What happens to monotheistic religious belief when we are presented with irrefutable evidence of intelligent life elsewhere?

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      they can finally sell off the Vatican.

    2. Naime Bond   2 years ago

      The things that pass for 'irrefutable evidence', I cannot understand. Steely Dan.

    3. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

      The New New Testament will explain it all.

    4. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      The aliens are trans, you heard it here first. I guarantee it will be claimed by the alphabet people.

    5. Zeb   2 years ago

      That's an interesting question. I think in part it depends on the religion. Seems like it would be pretty easy to apply Islam to aliens. Christianity and Judaism would be a little harder to adapt.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        Depends on which flavor, I know the LDS don't think Earth was a "one and done" for God.

    6. Homer Thompson   2 years ago

      they will raise money for a spaceship so they can bring jesus to the marklarians

      1. Eeyore   2 years ago

        The marklarians don't need Jesus - they are perfect.

    7. Eeyore   2 years ago

      Did God ever promise to be faithful?

    8. Eeyore   2 years ago

      Don't forget humans can literally believe anything when presented with anything.

    9. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Theistic belief, whether Mono- or Poly-, is easily debunked without the help of Sir Lollypop Man.

      But humanity will still want to Make Their Funk The P-Funk..Uncut Funk...Da Bomb! 🙂

      Parliament - P-Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up) (1975)
      https://youtu.be/ZyJzylk8d_M

    10. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Pro-tip: If the aliens show up looking for intelligent life, probably don't start with your explanation about how theists don't believe in life beyond mankind/Earth.

      Unless you'd rather be one of the "old type of humans" rather than join the Heaven's Gate-like Overmind.

  32. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>"should not obscure the point that the law he broke is unjust and arguably unconstitutional," writes Reason's Jacob Sullum.

    was there an outrage piece before Hunter was crosshaired?

    1. R Mac   2 years ago

      Plus there’s the whole thing about his gun ending up in a trash can across the street from a school.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        smh

  33. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >> RIP Sinéad O'Connor.

    ya. greatest SNL guest-shot ever.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      The follow-up "Sinatra Group" parody skit with Phil Hartman playing Frank Sinatra and spending the whole skit roasting Jan Hooks' O"Connor was a hoot, too.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        Sine-Aid O'Connor!

      2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago (edited)

        Phil Hartman playing Frank Sinatra

        Hartman was always hilarious. Or maybe I’m only able to remember his really funny skits.

        “I’ve got chunks of guys like you in my stool!”

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          "You've just entered The SASSY Zone!" 🙂

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      My money is on Michael Jordan w/ Public Enemy. Also Martin Lawrence monologue.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        sure, Joe Montana too. and FEAR was the musical guest once ... once ...

        1. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

          Joe Montana and Walter Payton on Church Chat was the greatest SNL skit.

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            "Hi, I'm Joe Montana" over & over because concussion still makes me lol

            1. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

              Nah, Payton telling the church lady "I try to penetrate any hole I can find" was the best.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      I had completely forgotten about this creepy chick. And I was happy.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        well ... there's still Bjork

        1. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

          And Phranc.

  34. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    "We are proud to announce this rule that will make airplane bathrooms larger and more accessible"

    No, it won't. What it will do is cause aircraft operators to delay or drop plans to upgrade bathrooms on aircraft. If the regulations make it too expensive, they might even delay ordering new aircraft to replace the aging aircraft having grandfathered bathrooms. Here's another addition to the "Great Moments in Unintended Consequences" series! What could possibly go wrong?

  35. Naime Bond   2 years ago

    So after 75 years, Beings with an average IQ of 2.75738E+11 still can't figure out how to call a IPHONE or land at an airport and introduce themselves but have to resort to flying over trailer parks, forests, buzzing space ships and occasionally abducting someone.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Mike says they are just tourists.

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      We always assume they'll be intelligent.

      What if the aliens are blithering morons?

      1. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

        Not a bad question. What if technology took care of all their needs to the point that they devolved?

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        True. They could be a race of Jeffys or Laursens.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          No wonder they keep crashing.

          1. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

            Their engines run on HO2 and turducken drippings.

    3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Good point!

  36. hpearce   2 years ago

    Caitlin Johnstone thinks it may be tied to the recent push by the U.S. to weaponize space

  37. Public Entelectual   2 years ago

    The obvious answer to the unimaginable power requirements need to explaining fast-jinking lights on software driven cockpit screens is Unidentified Falling Objects

  38. Super Scary   2 years ago

    "For every video of a right-wing provocateur like Ben Shapiro decrying the woke excesses of Barbie, there [b]are dozens[/b] of reviews praising the Mattel product tie-in as a feminist fable."

    Fixed. Or is ENB one of those dumb people that think conservatives control most of the media?

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      no only that they literally made it to be a feminist fable. Just read the director's and actors' comments about the production.
      They arent hiding it. They aren't being subtle about it. It's not like they are going "oh man, there's a message here? we were just having fun with Barbie outfits"
      No.

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        Sometimes movies do things that their makers didn't intend. I think that's true of most good art. I'm not saying this is the case with Barbie, because I have no idea. If the message is inescapably obvious and in your face, then it probably does suck. But the premise seems like it has some interesting potential for clever comedy.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          I really don’t care, but this is all intended.

          https://www.foxnews.com/media/resurfaced-video-snow-white-actress-sparks-controversy-changes-disney-remake-no-longer-1937

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            I think you may misunderstand me. I'm sure they are intending to have these movies contain woke, feminist messages and I agree that that is obnoxious and not a good sign for the state of our culture. What I think they might occasionally do unintentionally is make something that can be enjoyed on different levels by different people despite the intention to push a particular ideology.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              Like I said yesterday, in the long run the sheer lack of self-awareness is going to come back to haunt it, mainly because Ryan Gosling completely steals the show as Ken and undermines the movie's turbo-feminist message, and is going to become an alt-right meme symbol like Pepe.

            2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

              What I think they might occasionally do unintentionally is make something that can be enjoyed on different levels by different people despite the intention to push a particular ideology.

              I have heard some reviewers say that, from a certain point of view, they basically pushed their "men suck" message so far that they ended up undermining their own pro-feminist message, but I can't say for sure. I haven't seen it and didn't have any interest in seeing it before all this stuff came out about it. I still don't, not even out of morbid curiosity.

            3. Super Scary   2 years ago

              "What I think they might occasionally do unintentionally is make something that can be enjoyed on different levels by different people"

              I feel you there. I was a big fan of MST3k.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          The director did that shitty "Little Women" version which is basically just a 3rd-wave feminist "girl-boss" movie in early 19th century outfits, and her husband, who wrote the script, wrote and directed "A Marriage Story." That should tell you everything you need to know about their intentions.

          No, they're not being at all subtle about their message. They ARE benefitting from the fact that Barbie is a cultural icon that pretty much every American girl has grown up with, has never had a movie treatment outside of DVD cartoons and a few scenes in the Toy Story films, and the marketing was a master class in how to completely hide the movie's message to potentially hostile customers.

          The media is trying to turn it into this Big Cultural Moment as a deflection from getting dragged for complaining about the relative popularity of a small, low-budget movie that shows child sex trafficking as being bad, get some support for the SAG and WGA in their strike, and to rewrite recent history as the supposed "first post-pandemic hit that could save movies" even though Mario Brothers, and the Spider-Man/Top Gun/Avatar sequels all made well over a billion dollars.

          1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

            the marketing was a master class in how to completely hide the movie’s message to potentially hostile customers

            I wonder how much of that marketing was helped by the fact that, thanks to the Film Actor's Guild strike, the actors weren't able to promote it just before it came out? IOW, they had to keep their stupid traps shut and couldn't say anything to give it away right before it opened. I suspect that helped at least a little bit, although there were plenty of opportunities to open their mouths prior to the strike.

            I can't recall if the WGA also has a similar rule about not being allowed to promote their films while on strike or not. I know they've been on strike for months now, so if so that's a lot longer to have to keep their traps shut so as not to ruin the "surprise" that the cutesy Barbie movie is really a two hour women's studies lecture in disguise.

        3. mad.casual   2 years ago

          But the premise seems like it has some interesting potential for clever comedy.

          I absolutely agree with this. And as much as I criticize it for being the propaganda piece that it is, I wish it were a movie that my brother and niece could go see together unreservedly. It's unfortunate that spiteful women who've been lecturing us about violent cartoons, violent video games, and violent rap music had to pack it so full of patriarchy in order to make up for every time they invoked the Bechdel Test.

          And, again, I'm not entirely or even mostly against the content. There are absolutely misogynist, social commentary comedies that women should have every right to both criticize and produce counter narratives to. I'm against the selective, progressive, narrative creep and BOAF SIDEZ propaganda. A mother who or critic who thinks "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" is inappropriate for young girls because of its misogynistic depiction of women isn't wrong as a critic, because of any conservative, hyper-evangelical neo-puritanist tendencies. She's wrong because the depiction isn't explicitly misogynistic, nor really targeted to young children as misogynistic, accurate depiction of reality, or even remotely realistic desirable depiction of fantasy.

      2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        "no only that they literally made it to be a feminist fable. Just read the director’s and actors’ comments about the production.
        They arent hiding it. "

        Yes and no. They are owning it now that its come out, the bait and switch happened, and friendly media outlets and critics are talking about how awesome the feminist message is.

        But this was not the case pre-release. In fact, both Robbie and the director had made comments that it was a movie with a feminist message, and the studio hard shut them down, had them back off that messaging, and pivoted to the "Barbie is for everyone!" message.

        They wanted the normies that were looking for a fun popcorn movie to show up, and they knew they lose a TON of that if its marketed as another left-wing hollywood wokefest...because every one of those shit movies lose truckloads of money now that people are wising up.

        They played the bait and switch just right, tbh.

      3. damikesc   2 years ago

        In their defense --- they were silent about it before the launch. Their message discipline was impressive.

    2. Terran   2 years ago

      Probably thinks that college culture is moderate as well.

    3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Can you cite even one example of a person who opined that "conservatives control most of the media"? That seems like a null set.

  39. Minadin   2 years ago

    "Making airline bathrooms accessible to people in wheelchairs is certainly a good thing."

    No it isn't. It's a terrible idea, for all the reasons listed, but there are plenty of other reasons not already given above.

    The aisles are nowhere near wide enough to roll a wheelchair down. Accessible routes are required to be a minimum of 3'-8" wide. Do you think airline aisles are even half of that? Widen the aisles and you're losing a lot more than 3-6 seats. Minimum of 1 per row. Hey guys, ticket prices just went up another 20%

    The new ADA rules require a larger, 5'-6" turning space than the previous two versions did. But since you can't get a wheelchair TO the restroom, what's the purpose?

    With the new guidelines that we're following for single-person and family-assist accessible restrooms, the minimum size is something like 7-ft x 8-ft. Where are you going to fit that on a plane?

    1. HorseConch   2 years ago

      If we can't be ruled by morons, why be ruled?

    2. Homer Thompson   2 years ago

      they would probably reserve first row(s) for wheelchair passengers to avoid having to widen aisles

      ... it's still a bad idea

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  42. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

    I realize that science is not popular at the moment, but it would help if people thought about it regarding alien life. Probability tells us that the size of the universe means there must be life out beyond the earth. The size of the universe means distances are too great for people on earth to ever meet another advanced life form. Probability tells us that the size of the universe means it is doubtful we will ever any signal of another life form. There is life out in the universe, but we are and will always be alone on this planet.

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Most likely.

      The weakest point in that analysis is there may be some way we Earthlings aren't aware of yet to span those distances faster.

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        No, the weak point is assuming they would need to go faster.

    2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

      The size of the universe means distances are too great for people on earth to ever meet another advanced life form.

      You're assuming that trips of impossibly long duration for us would be so for any other life form. For beings with lifespans of hundreds of thousands of years, and with greatly superior technology for constructing spacecraft, an interstellar trip of a few thousand years would not seem as daunting as it does to us. Having said that, I doubt beings so advanced would have meat bodies flying around in metal spaceships. They would simply send the information necessary to create their presence here. When we meet them, it will be like Contact rather than Close Encounters.

    3. damikesc   2 years ago

      Possibly true...but to limit the actions of non-humans by what humans can do is not the best move, IMO.

      Just because we cannot does not mean NOBODY can.

      1. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

        I agree that I may be presumptuous in assuming that an alien race will not be able to exceed are ability to travel faster or have a longer life span. But there are certain limits in biology, chemistry, and physics. We also don't know of any place in the universe where the laws covering these disciplines are different. It is easy to think an alien race could do more than us, but difficult to think they could go beyond the limits that are naturally fixed into the universe.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          There is no need to travel faster if you can warp the fabric of space and make the distance shorter.

        2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          We also don’t know of any place in the universe where the laws covering these disciplines are different.

          Why would they need to be?

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