Ed Sheeran, Vanilla Ice, and a Monkey Walk Into A.I. Copyright Law
If government officials and lawyers create a new legal framework for A.I.-generated content, society risks losing the potential benefits of the next tech revolution.

Government officials and lawyers worldwide are using artificial intelligence (A.I.) as a justification to grab more power. The latest examples come in the form of copyright ownership. But if the government gets its hands on A.I. development in order to "protect" copyright owners, America will miss being a leader in the 21st-century tech revolution. We don't need a new regulatory framework to deal with the new ownership questions A.I. poses. Instead, existing copyright law addresses the concerns many folks currently have with A.I.
European regulators are already demanding that copyright law be expanded to include any copyrighted content that might have been used by an A.I. for creation. Unfortunately, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman is feeling the pressure and capitulating.
In the United States, there's the impending announcement of Vice President Kamala Harris as A.I. czar. While some may see this as a step forward, it raises concerns about government overreach in regulating A.I. as the White House is calling for A.I. systems to block speech it deems "disinformation."
If government officials and lawyers create a new legal framework for A.I.-generated content, society risks losing the potential benefits of the tech revolution. Instead, relying on existing copyright law will address ownership questions, promote creativity, and ensure the growth of generative A.I. technology.
The cases of an unlikely group—Ed Sheeran, Vanilla Ice, and a monkey—show that existing copyright law is more than able to solve the latest concerns sparked by A.I.
Last week, singer-songwriter Ed Sheeran won a copyright case for his hit song, "Thinking Out Loud." The question presented to the court was whether Sheeran's song infringed on Marvin Gaye's copyright for "Let's Get It On." After three hours of deliberation, the jury said Sheeran was not in violation of copyright law.
In the early 1990s, rapper Vanilla Ice faced a lawsuit for sampling "Under Pressure" in his song "Ice Ice Baby." Settled out of court, it raised questions about copyright protection and using samples in new works: was the chord new or derivative? These issues apply to A.I.-generated content, as A.I. algorithms rely on existing data.
In 2011, a macaque monkey named Naruto took selfies with a photographer's camera. When the photographer included the picture in his book, he was sued by the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, which claimed that Naruto owned the photo and that the photographer was committing copyright infringement. But the Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit said nonhumans couldn't claim copyright protection. After all, the U.S. Copyright Office's definition of "an original work" says it must have "a human author."
In all these cases, courts and artists used existing copyright law to settle novel ownership questions. We can do the same for A.I.-generated content.
First, lawmakers must recognize that A.I.-generated content isn't eligible for copyright protection without human involvement. This aligns with the U.S. Copyright Office's stance, ensuring that copyright law remains focused on human creativity.
Second, it is important to acknowledge that A.I. algorithms rely on existing data, much like Sheeran and Vanilla Ice's samples of other songs.
To avoid stifling innovation, courts must allow limited use of copyrighted material in A.I.-created works. This could be achieved through the existing doctrine of fair use, which allows copyrighted material to be used for commentary, criticism, or parody without permission.
Policy makers should extend fair use to include A.I.-generated content, provided that the new work doesn't harm the market for the original work or its derivatives. This encourages A.I. innovation while respecting original authors' rights.
Europe's efforts to outlaw A.I. unless authorized also demonstrate the dangers of excessive government control. If America follows this path, we risk stifling innovation and losing our competitive edge in the global tech landscape.
Policy makers must ensure that America remains at the forefront of the tech revolution. Despite calls for new laws, the cases of Ed Sheeran, Vanilla Ice, and a monkey show that existing copyright law can adapt to novel situations and technologies without wasting legislative time and stifling creativity and innovation. Let's use it to our advantage and keep A.I. innovation alive.
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So fascists continue to act like fascists.
I am shocked!
The idea of Kamala as "AI Czar" is... brutally ironic.
“The idea of Kamala as “AI Czar” is… brutally ironic.”
Oh yeah, especially considering that she has apparently never had an “original” idea in her life.
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Artificial insemenation?
At this point, you just want to throw up your hands, sit back, and watch the shit show.
If 'heels up' had AI, it would be the only 'I' related to her.
True enough, but the degree of brazen openness seems to increase.
https://twitter.com/Babygravy9/status/1657708507301310464?t=PvcMRvVJKzelzktYs5RBVg&s=19
I'm not a blackpiller, but the situation in the UK is absolutely dire. What choice do voters have? The Conservatives are importing over a million people a year and deliberately resettling them in the rural heartlands as well as the cities (see my piece on the "Great Replenishment" for the National Pulse); and if Labour get in, they'll import the same numbers of people, as well as giving the vote to 3+ million EU nationals and lowering the voting age to 16.
Either way, the country is being deliberately transformed at such a rate that it will be totally unrecognisable very soon.
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"...without wasting legislative time..."
Wasting legislative time seem a valuable goal.
"If America follows this path, we risk stifling innovation and losing our competitive edge in the global tech landscape."
Which is the final objective of the democrat policies, so - - - - - - - - - -
" . . . Vice President Kamala Harris as A.I. czar."
Not even A.I. itself can generate a picture of that!
Hey, that might be the way to make AI self-destruct!
JP has a nice interview with the new AI czar.
Well, after she successfully solved the border crisis with a single visit and staved off the war in Ukraine with a few phone calls, it only makes sense to hand her more of the tough problems.
(We're so fucked)
She cures cancer, fixed the border, an kicked Putin out of Ukraine, why can’t she solve the ai challenge?
"America will miss being a leader in the 21st-century tech revolution. "
You're assuming all revolutions are good.
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It's happening, one way or another. Best to try and pursue policies that will maximize benefits and minimize harms. Trying to shut it down altogether virtually guarantees maximum harm and minimum benefit.
Any of you Peanuts join the march in Washington DC yesterday?
Far-right group Patriot Front took to the streets of DC to march towards the US Capitol in the latest appearance of the white nationalist front.
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Approximately 200 people advanced along the National Mall on Saturday, flanked by police to keep the extremists separated from a small group of counter protestors.
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According to its website, the white nationalist group claims its 'activism' is intended to assert 'cultural independence' founded in 'our European race'.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12080939/White-supremacy-group-Patriot-march-Washington-D-C.html
Peaceful group. Khaki is tacky though. Get a new uniform next time.
Well SPB is certainly a pedophile, and evidently a homophobe to boot. He hates those “gays” but loves trafficking in child porn.
https://reason.com/2023/05/11/cnn-gave-trump-a-megaphone-and-he-used-it-exactly-as-youd-expect/?comments=true#comment-10057991
Deep inside that depraved mind, he is fighting some demons. I can only assume he comes onto this board trying to distract himself from that internal struggle.
In any case, SPB is not going to benefit himself or this community by loosing his demons on Reason. So for his own good and the good of this community, I recommend everyone just shun him.
“…. loosing his demons….”
Proper use of the word ‘loosing’ is rare. It seems that overt should be the official narrator of this board. Or maybe red.
Dillinger for the cliffs notes version.
It seems that overt should be the official narrator of this board.
Here's my vote in favor.
I could get on board with that - Honorable mentions to Zeb and DesigNate. At least when it comes to thought-provoking comments that I may or may not agree with. Always worth reading at least.
Are we still supposed pretending Patriot
FedFront isn't composed entirely of on-duty FBI agents?I mean look at the fucking pictures and point out the one guy who doesn't look like one. It's hard to find one young man in his twenties that coincidentally meets the agencies fitness standards let alone "200".
And the fact that in past marches the ones wearing long sleeved shirts and gloves used to have bits of dark skin peeking out was also an indicator that shenanigans were afoot.
too big to be a lincoln project stunt?
Westboro Baptist always used to be totally suspicious to me too.
At the height of the gay marriage debate, a civil rights lawyer and his Al Gore delegate son suddenly create an anti-gay church, composed almost entirely of family members. And their sole religious activity was to protest homosexuality.
But they didn't do it at pride parades and gay events. No, they'd travel hundreds of miles to do it at completely inappropriate places. Like heterosexual soldiers, firefighters and police officers funerals whose deaths they claimed were punishment by God. Places guaranteed to engender maximum public outrage against them.
They singlehandedly stopped religious pushback against gay marriage, because the religious groups who might have, were scared of being associated with the hated Westboro.
Then, when gay marriage was legalized by the court, they disappeared.
I've met those assholes in person. They are not an op, just actually assholes.
What is the purpose of the cosplay?
Not being compared to their photo on the Bureau listing.
Most democrat voters are so ignorant they believe in obviously fake narratives? See how many hate hoax crimes there are reported in the media. They want to be saviors but they have to seek out or manufacture incidents.
And the Smollett award for 2023 goes to...
Meh. Not one mention of Hunter's penis.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
European race? Funny, I'm pretty sure there was a time when sizable swaths of Europe weren't considered really white.
Do those EU politicians really expect AIs to get permission from billions of authors, all those estates, all those blog posts and comments; or to slice royalties thinly enough to pay them all? If humans are allowed to read dead authors, blog posts and comments, why aren't computers?
The EU doesn't care. They get their way because their citizenry can't do anything to stop them. So I expect there to be limited to no AI's coming from that region.
So why does our government always get its way?
Because for the most part, we're a bunch of pussies. I learned that after I made grand predictions about how Americans wouldn't stand for lockdowns, and how we have our whole history based on "not doing what we're told" and wow did I ever get that one wrong.
Same here. I live in the boonies, surrounded by people who work as much cash and barter as possible, some don't even file taxes. Yet they almost all were wiping down mail and packages and groceries, making their own hand sanitizer by the gallon, and buying and wearing the most expensive masks they could find. Not much to lock down around here, but they were scared to death of going to town (pop 2500, 15 miles away).
Wiping down packages, making hand sanitizer, even wearing a mask if they actually thought it would do some good, those all make some level of sense still, because people can get bad information, the government at all levels was pushing a lot of bad information.
But the fact that everyone just went along with shutting down businesses, being *forced* to wear masks, the mere *suggestion* of mandatory jabs... that really broke my hope that Americans would actually stand up and push back at some point.
And I mean, hey. I still wore the damn face diaper when I got out of my truck, still ate three meals a day *in* the truck because all the truck stops had closed any in-store eating areas, didn't talk to damned near anyone other than my dispatcher, the driver team leader, and my girlfriend, all via text, for practically a whole year. So it's not like *I* stood up to it either. It's still really disappointing, though.
It wasn’t like that inFlorida.
We locked down when no one understood what was happening.
When things became more clear, Only Georgia opened up before us.
There were no mandatory jabs, bowling alleys, shooting ranges, and churches all remained open.
Desantis protected the old age homes and let the rest of us get back to work.
He forced the teachers to allow the schools to open for in person learning.
He’s going to be. Great President!
Well, fair enough. The trucking job only took me to Florida once.
American's have been doing as they were told since at least FDR's regime.
At least they showed some spunk during prohibition.
I wonder how much of that is nostalgic image, and how many Americans were compliant tee-totalers and even informants.
I think most were already teetotalers. How else would they have passed the Volstead act?
No voter ever voted for or against Prohibition. Only elected "representatives" got to vote on that, and in my long life I've never had one that actually represented me. So what happened is that activists persuaded Congress and state legislatures that they had a majority - or that they had a sizable minority that would vote against any politician who refused to support Prohibition, and an apathetic majority that drank but would not change their vote because a politician supported Prohibition.
It apparently also came as quite a surprise to many when not only was that evil hard liquor banned, but also the beer and wine that good people like them drank...
Control of the news media, the schools, and the universities?
"Do those EU politicians really expect AIs to get permission from billions of authors, all those estates, all those blog posts and comments; or to slice royalties thinly enough to pay them all? "
That's the position of Jaron Lanier in his book "Who Owns the Future?" Universal micropayments, at least to living people whose online content is used by others.
http://library.lol/main/2D794B6EBE237D2F953968034A9567FF
And how do you apportion that minuscule royalty among those billion sources for each query?
It's all bullshit.
"And how do you apportion that minuscule royalty among those billion sources for each query?"
There's this new invention: decimal places. The value of Pi has been calculated to some 62 trillion decimal places. It took a while but computers have proven to be capable of handling minuscule numbers.
I said "apportion", not divide. Please pay attention to words; they have meanings.
Anyone can divide a penny royalty into billionths. No one can apportion that penny differently and appropriately for every query. Surely a query about stealing second base uses its inputs differently than a query about stealing a candy bar.
"No one can apportion that penny differently and appropriately for every query."
It's already being apportioned. Every contributor get $0.0 in royalties. Evidently you want to keep it that way.
Is that supposed to be witty? clever? sarcastic?
It's just plain silly. Dodges the question. I repeat: you want to apportion royalties. How do you intend to do that?
"Is that supposed to be witty? clever? sarcastic?"
None of those. We don't get any micropayments for the content we produce and others use. Lanier proposes we get something. If you are curious about the details, check out the book I linked to earlier. It's free to download and is written by a man who's spent a considerable amount of time pondering the questions you are asking.
In other words, you can't summarize it. Pretty useless it must be.
"In other words,.."
You'd prefer to nip at my heals in the comments than download the book and find out for yourself.
How to apportion it is a matter for the signed contracts the AI's owners have with everyone whose property they used in creating their derivative work.
Oh, they didn't get a signed agreement? Well, then, apportion it in accordance with minimum statutory damages, $750 per work infringed.
You don't get to appropriate my land to build a turnpike and then fob me off with "Well, your share of the revenue from each toll is too small to apportion". Even if you manage to convince the government to use eminent domain, I get paid.
It's too hard to get permission from all the people whose property would have to be appropriated? Congratulations, you've demonstrated that it's too hard to lawfully do. Too bad, so sad. Go do something else.
What he said. In terms to persuade a classic Libertarian.
No, they don't. It's more of an attempt to shut it down without a formal ban that might be easier to challenge.
Whether it's the AI's creators or the AI's users or both who have to beware (it depends on the circumstances), if an AI's output is infringing, then the copyright owner should have a remedy.
For purposes of fair use, a potentially infringing work made by an AI should be treated exactly the same as if produced by a human. Identity of the creator is not one of the four factors (and, while courts may include other factors than the four listed, there's not a good reason why they should in this case.)
The EU's intent is that all the copyrighted material which trained the AI gets royalties. In other words, everything on the internet, possibly billions of authors since copyright is automatic by virtue of being written down. At least hundreds of millions, considering all the texts and messages.
In other words, everything any AI does owes royalties to everyone who has ever written anything; the entire literate population.
"In other words, everything any AI does owes royalties to everyone who has ever written anything; the entire literate population."
If the AI avails itself of the work of one person to produce something, then that one person should be credited and rewarded. By the very same principle, if the AI avails itself of the work of a billion people to produce something, same thing applies.
Your position reminds me of internet publishers. They are happy to publish millions of items on their platforms, but claim that properly scrutinizing the items they publish is beyond human capability and therefore need government dispensations like Section 230 to protect them.
And how do you plan to properly apportion those itsy bitsy dinky royalties among those billions of sources, whose input relevance differs for every query?
Well, the government collects it and keeps it, because the government is all of us.
--A Communist
You're right; but mtrueman and his ilk refuse to admit it.
"And how do you plan to properly apportion those itsy bitsy dinky royalties among those billions of sources, whose input relevance differs for every query?"
I have no such plans. Sounds like a job for an AI, though.
And how will that apportioning AI apportion its own query?
DRM spells it out elsewhere. How to apportion is a matter to be worked out between the parties involved.
It'll be like the national debt -- we owe it to ourselves, and we'll all be rich.
And on top of that, inflation is profit.
You cannot copyright a style. It is bad enough that we allow the copyright of a "universe".
In a sane world this could be solved by trademark. No one may pass off similar work in your name. Or, for specific mechanisms that produce art (like a painting technique, or similar) a patent. But it is noxious to liberty to suggest that once you've discovered some aesthetic arrangement, only you may profit off of it. Especially given the fact that in this country, Copyright seems to go on foreeeeever.
This is why I can't agree whole-heartedly with the video produced by the insufferable, and often dishonest Obama-shill, Adam Conover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro130m-f_yk
Almost all of that video is pretty spot on, but then he descends into this notion that if an AI pumps out a script in the "Style" of his work, it is actually "stealing" the work that he has done before. If that is the case, then he is stealing the work of everyone he had learned from in the past. Close up shots of his head in a dark room? Stealing. Kitchy animations? Stealing. Epithet-laden ranting? Stealing.
Yes, as industrialization automated a lot of shit that craftsmen had been building in the past- awesome using knowledge and techniques they had discovered and perfected- a lot of the stuff that Adam has done is now getting automated. As I noted before, people could do well to learn how to work with AI to speed up their content creation. Even him. And having the AI know how to hew towards his style could be a good thing. But like any old crank with an unearned, overwhelming sense of self entitlement, Adam will be too busy bitching and moaning to notice.
"You cannot copyright a style."
Perhaps not, but if you specifically instruct your AI to produce a portrait of your pet dog in the style of Salvador Dali, or do the interior design of your living room in the style of Joseph Beuys, it's only common courtesy to give credit where it's due.
The Creative Commons license requires users to credit the original creator when their work is used.
Imitation is not "using" someone else's work. If a talented artist wanted to paint something in a Salvadore Dali style, they've created something wholly original. They're not using Salvadore Dali's work.
If an artist wants to recreate the Mona Lisa as precisely as possible, it's still their own work. It's just them painting the Mona Lisa. The only crime would be if they signed Leonardo's name on it and tried to sell it as if it was the original. If they put their own signature on it and sell it as "George's Mona Lisa," no theft has occurred.
"Imitation is not “using” someone else’s work. "
Instructing an AI to produce a work in the style of a particular artist is using that artist's work. How could it be otherwise?
"They’re not using Salvadore Dali’s work."
They're using Dali's style, which is not original. Dali is the originator of Dali's style.
"If an artist wants to recreate the Mona Lisa as precisely as possible, it’s still their own work."
True, but it's using Leonardo's original, as a model in this case.
"no theft has occurred."
I'm not talking legality here, but common courtesy. It's not a lot to ask.
Everything is built upon what has already been done.
Are you saying that Dali's style was so original that he had no inspirations? That would truly be a first in the universe.
"Are you saying that Dali’s style was so original that he had no inspirations? "
No, I'm saying that Dali's style originated with Dali. He had many inspirations. His wife, for example, or Freudian psychology. Don't confuse inspiration with style.
His inspiration was other styles. Why does he not owe them for stealing from them, as you would have others owe Dali for being inspired by him?
" Why does he not owe them for stealing from them"
He owes them the common courtesy of acknowledging them as a source. Which he did. I don't think his interest in Freudian psychology was ever a secret. What more do you want from the man?
I want nothing from him. You're the one saying everyone owes everyone else.
I disagree that Dali owes his style to those who inspired him. I caution against confusing style with inspiration.
” You’re the one saying everyone owes everyone else.”
If you use someone else’s work in your own work, you owe them the courtesy of acknowledging your debt to them. If you’re making money off using other people’s work, then we have to talk about royalties. Simple as that.
So start talking royalties, and how to apportion them. I've asked several times. The closest you've come to answering that is tell me to read a book on micropayments.
"So start talking royalties"
I'd agree to royalties of two months every year for my internet service bill to be paid by the AI data miners. What would you ask for?
*Note, I'd ask for two months, but, just between us, I'd settle for one month.
"I caution against confusing style with inspiration."
Of course mtrueman does. Because if he can't create a meaningless difference between two similar things, he can't draw his arbitrary lines.
But just because he has two different words, doesn't mean those words are actually operable. People have used "in the style of" and "inspired by" to describe derivative works for years. There is no clear distinction from them. Numerous parodies have claimed to be "inspired by", and numerous original works of art were in the style of someone else.
It is quite hilarious, though, to see mtrueman being a property-rights capitalist through and through.
An inspiration is not a style. It's as simple as that. Dali was inspired by his dreams and nightmares. Dreams and nightmares are not styles.
Over time, artists develop a personal style. That's why we can tell, at a glance, a Pollock from a Warhol, from a Beuys, from a Dali. It's got nothing to do with the inspiration behind their works, but more about technique and subject matter. You see dribbled paint, that's a Pollock, a block of fat, there's a Beuys etc.
Inspiration is the idea or experience lying behind the work. For Dali it was the content of his dreams, and for Beuys it was his being shot down over the Russian wilderness in WWII.
The two expressions can be used interchangeably. If you instruct your AI to produce a picture inspired by Coolidge and sudoku, it'll give you a dog at a table, pencil in paw, possibly with glasses, solving a sudoku puzzle. Instruct your AI to produce a picture in the style of Coolidge and sudoku, and you'll get much the same thing. In both cases, a nod of acknowledgement to Coolidge is common courtesy. I can't understand your determined reluctance to ignore this debt to the originator of the style.
If we copywrite your style, we might name it 'insufferable half-wit'.
You can't copyright a style. Overt was correct here. That doesn't absolve you from the rules of common courtesy though. Acknowledging the work you produce owes something to someone else. Why is this so controversial?
Well, I don't know about this.
Let's just think out loud here, I don't really have an extremely strong opinion on this, but let's see if we can reason through something that makes sense.
I often find that when tech-related matters are concerned, it is helpful to use a non-tech analogy, because that can help to clarify the issue without getting lost in the weeds of all the tech jargon.
So, suppose Bob invents a machine that uses paint, a paintbrush, and a canvas, and, once set into motion, can mechanically paint images on the canvas without further human intervention until turned off. That would seem to be a fair analogy to the AI case here.
Bob can certainly apply for a patent for his machine, of course. As to the paintings generated, I would argue that the human creativity that went into generating those paintings came from Bob, not from the machine. It was Bob's choices of how to construct the machine that ultimately produced those paintings. And provided Bob could prove that the operation of the machine could generate truly original paintings, and not merely copies of other works, then if any copyright is to be granted for that painting, it should go to Bob.
So perhaps one test here, in the world of AI, to see if there ought to be any copyright granted at all to any of these images, is to first show that the images are truly original and unique, and not merely the result of copying other works. And then if there is going to be a copyright granted, it should go to the individual who wrote the AI code.
But again I am open to alternative ideas and arguments here on how this issue should be handled. Thoughts?
"and not merely the result of copying other works."
Which has been done historically by almost every artist ever, except they say "inspired by" rather than "copying".
Bingo
"And then if there is going to be a copyright granted, it should go to the individual who wrote the AI code."
Hundreds or even thousands probably wrote the code. Copyright would go to the person or persons who own the code. Microsoft, Google and the like.
In a corporate setting, yes, you'd be right.
Is there an AI out there that is FOSS (free and open source software) along the lines of GIMP or Linux? I think for the foreseeable future, a corporate setting is all we'll have, and owners rather than writers who will ultimately benefit.
OpenAI dummy. The costs are not AI development but training the AI. But of course training introduces bias.
"But of course training introduces bias."
Isn't bias introduced from the get go? Essentially from the moment the project is conceived.
No. Educate yourself on AI development.
AI on its own is largely an algorithm to find patterns and linkages. It is often wrong. Why it struggles to tell a bird from an airplane. A tank from a tractor. So the algorithms are trained on data. The training data is what sets the bias.
This is trueman, for pete's sake; pretending to profundity, but putting out windy blatherings:
mtrueman|8.30.17 @ 1:42PM|#
"Spouting nonsense is an end in itself."
"Educate yourself on AI development."
Maybe I will, but don't hold your breath.
"largely an algorithm to find patterns and linkages."
Algorithms have a built in bias. You're writing a sorting algorithm. Before you start, you have to ask yourself about speed, memory usage, complexity, etc. Bias in other words.
Told ya so...
To be fair I never expect you to educate yourself on anything.
Though the recent LoRA development has significantly reduced those costs. And allowed vastly swifter iteration.
It's also made the whole question of "AI control" moot. When you can run one successfully on a Raspberry Pi, the cat is out of the bag and several blocks away.
An AI running on raspberry pi would be fairly useless due to the computing resources required for processing the data. You could use an HPC to try to come up with a valid rule set from AI and install it on PI, but the processing cost of the training and non rules based interpretation is pretty high.
Even with automated steering in cars it is rules based on the AI elsewhere with just the rules put unto the cars processors.
"An AI running on raspberry pi would be fairly useless"
I've read the Orange Pi is somewhat better than the RPi. Though it lacks the user community base, documentation etc. Any Orange Pi users care to comment?
I mean the post was pretty clear on the processing throughput. It isnt the OS that changes it, but the amount of processing clock cycles. But continue to be confused.
Raspberry Pi and Orange Pi are two different computers. They are both small and cheap with limited capabilities. I'm wondering if anyone has experienced the Orange Pi which I've read is superior to the Raspberry Pi.
Operating system images
https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/operating-systems/
Literally called:
Many operating systems are available for Raspberry Pi, including Raspberry Pi OS
The operating system isn’t the limiting factor dumdum.
AI is dependent on the amount of processing throughput. Sure you can put Raspberry Pi OS on and HPC, but it will be inefficient.
You know what. Here.
https://www.primidi.com/strong_ai/artificial_general_intelligence_research/whole_brain_emulation/processing_requirements
And more.
https://www.azorobotics.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=510
"The operating system isn’t the limiting factor dumdum."
I never said it was. I never thought it was. It was you, not I, who introduced OS into the comments. I was simply curious if any of my readers had experience with the Orange Pi, a rival to the Raspberry Pi.
By the way, I don't recommend any of the OS you linked to for the RPi. I use the ArchLinuxArm OS which I found is better than the alternatives. I think there is a recently updated RPi OS, but I'm happy with Arch. It's super stable and bug free and the easiest way I've found to run the i3 tiling window manager with 32 bit architecture.
Yet you still understand the computing requirements of modern AI. A low budget Raspberry Pi system is not that.
"Yet you still understand the computing requirements of modern AI."
I'm not interested in modern AI. I use my computer to browse the web, some spread sheet, video and music, downloading and simple programing. The Raspberry Pi I have is more than adequate. I'm interested to learn more about the Orange Pi for the next purchase.
https://www.semianalysis.com/p/google-we-have-no-moat-and-neither
LoRA is a real game changer. You can get good results without an HPC. Or even a dedicated CUDA card. $100 training cost. I'll grant the R-Pi demo was pretty much just a "prove this can be done" effort.
Can we copyright bears in trunks?
I think you should try to copyright humorless one-line Reason comment bots. You could make a lot of money.
No. It is still funny. Quite funny. Especially how you kept trying to defend it for a week or two. And the fact you are still mad at your idiotic thought exercise makes it continue to be funny.
For everyone on this mothers day. A laugh:
https://reason.com/podcast/2021/10/25/freedom-responsibility-and-coronavirus-policy/#comment-9176512
What if the bear has a monocle, though?
If the bear in the trunk has one bottle of HO2 and another bottle of pure radiation poisoning solution, and the lid is closed, can you tell if he is alive or dead? #Schrodinger's JeffyBear
Chemleft already owns that one. For the rest of time.
I am happy to own a somewhat silly analogy that tries to make an important point. In that case, the point was about the concept of negligence. If, unbeknownst to you, and without any purposeful intent, a piece of property in your possession is causing harm to others, are you liable for that harm? Libertarians in general have a difficult time with the concept of negligence.
So, from your point of view, how should the concept of negligence be treated from a libertarian perspective?
Oh that's right, your main purpose here is just to bitch and moan, not to offer much in the way of substance.
It was straight idiotic simpleton.
You rely on thought exercises because your thinking on subjects is so ill informed or logical. So you can't rely on real world examples.
Like a kid being taught physics with assumptions of truth based systems. Sure they can design a simplistic vehicle for flight, but it would fail as soon as relevant error sources are added to the system.
Youre a simpleton. Always have been. The bear example is one of many instances of your simple mind and simple ideas.
Even now you continue to simplify an argument to one without merit. Just like yesterday when you accused a parent fighting back for a teacher transing their kid and telling their kid not to talk to the parents.
You defend stupid shit. You make up stupid analogies to defend your stupid shit.
Lol.
Hey now, quit bearing down on Chemleft like that. He's clearly embearassed by the analogy that he bearly thought out being brought up again and again.
This must be more of your thoughtful intellectual commentary that you bring to this forum, right?
Sure, go ahead and make more bear jokes. I still contribute far more to the signal part of the S/N ratio than you do. Your contributions are mainly to the denominator.
When are you going to address the issue at hand? Or is your sole purpose here ONLY to contribute noise?
Cite? You contribute nothing. Your sophist comments are a distraction at best.
You aren't a signal to noise ratio. Your a clutter to noise ratio. Only here to defend the left with bullshit lol.
Wait, what? Was Chemleft asking me for a cite for something? I think you already provided that by linking to what I presume was the original "bears in trunks" comment.
Interestingly, it turns out that if one clicks on a link to a comment for someone that's muted, the comments won't load at all. So that's a bug.
Oh so you've muted me. Good to know. Good bye.
Give yourself a pat on the back Jeff, for your purpose and contributions, such as…….
…….bears in trunks. Haha.
How can someone try so hard, and still be so dense?
How can someone try so hard, and still be so dense?
His mind is devoid of thought. One might even call it "bearran".
It's noise, no signal.
The analogy is off. Bob didn't teach the machine to paint, the machine taught itself. The machine should own the copyrights on the work it produces.
But the machine isn't sentient. Its "creativity" only flows from how Bob constructed the machine in the first place. So I don't see how a machine (or an AI program) could be entitled to a copyright.
“Thoughts?”
Just stop with the analogies. You will never do better than bears in trunks. Hang it up.
Remember that Canada is a sandbox for everything that they want to do in America.
Canada shouldn't deny assisted suicide if social conditions made life intolerable: bioethicists
"The cases have drawn international criticism: People in Canada with non-terminal conditions choosing a doctor-assisted death after a fruitless search for better housing or proper medical care.
But a new paper by two University of Toronto bioethicists argues that, while the decisions may be “deeply tragic,” it would be wrong to deny medical assistance in dying (MAID) to people whose request is being driven most of all by poverty or other unjust conditions — “people who not only might, but have explicitly said” they would prefer not to die.
Not allowing MAID when circumstances show no short-term chance of improving would only cause further harm, Kayla Wiebe, a PhD candidate in philosophy, and bioethicist Amy Mullin, a professor of philosophy at the University of Toronto, write in the Journal of Medical Ethics.
“To force people who are already in unjust social circumstances to have to wait until those social circumstances improve, or for the possibility of public charity that sometimes but unreliably occurs when particularly distressing cases become public, is unacceptable,” they wrote.
"Assisted suicide" is just the state's way of saying they're just not into you any more.
They're literally advocating killing the poor for being poor.
I mean, I'm seeing a way out of the homeless crisis here...
They finally got some Dead Kennedys albums up there.
Wait'll you see what they're doing to teenagers for being cis.
But they are totally not death panels.
Surprised they didn’t label it “The Final Solution “.
Supreme Hypocrite Mammary-Fuhrer just LOOOVES the Wee Ones, the Sacred Fartilized Egg Smells! Who knows, after She gets Her Way on THAT one, the "rights" of Sacred UN-Fartilized Egg Smells may ALSO demand (in Her Perfect Mind!) Her Perfect PUNISHMENTS of offenders, to protect THEM, ass well!
Meanwhile, Her Perfect Final Solution for the politically imperfect already-born children and adults, is to recommend SUICIDE for them!
To force people who are already in unjust social circumstances to have to wait until those social circumstances improve, or for the possibility of public charity that sometimes but unreliably occurs when particularly distressing cases become public, is unacceptable
Kill them, for they are without hope.
I cannot think of a more satanic position. This isn't just a total inversion of western civilization, it's an inversion of humanity.
There's this too: Child Euthanasia without Parent Approval Pushed for Canada
All while claiming "compassion".
And they're using the exact same excuse to castrate and mutilate children too.
I'm not slipping into hyperbole when I call Jeff "evil".
Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer has a MUCH better Final Solution (in Her Perfect Mind, at least), and that is that She will recommend SUICIDE for those children who have politically wrong opinions!!!
Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer, Supreme Demonic Director of Decay, Destruction, and Death, will now SPEAK! HARKKK silently and RESPECTFULLY, all ye lowly heathens, as She Directs Death, and announces WHICH few of us MIGHT deserve to live, and WHO all deserves to DIE-DIE-DIE!!!
https://reason.com/2022/01/25/did-these-three-officers-willfully-deprive-george-floyd-of-his-constitutional-rights/?comments=true#comment-9323626
“You should really join ᛋᛋqrlsy, ᛋᛋhrike. You two goosestepping fascists offing yourselves would definitely be a mitzvah.”
-Quote MammaryBahnFuhrer the "Expert Christian Theologian", AKA Mother’s Lament, with a head full of cement
(And She has repeatedly, Perfectly reiterated Her Sacred Stance! After all, She is an Esteemed Christian Theologian.)
I proudly stand behind that statement, Shillsy. You'd be just like the man who shot Hitler.
Conservaturds making friends, gathering votes, and influencing people by... PEDDLING KOOL-AID AND SUICIDE!!! How's it workin' for ya, servant of the Evil One?
EvilBahnFuhrer, drinking EvilBahnFuhrer Kool-Aid in a spiraling vortex of darkness, cannot or will not see the Light… It’s a VERY sad song! Kinda like this…
He’s a real Kool-Aid Man,
Sitting in his Kool-Aid Land,
Playing with his Kool-Aid Gland,
His Hero is Jimmy Jones,
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jim-Jones
Loves death and the dying moans,
Then he likes to munch their bones!
He’s truly, completely a necrophiliac,
His brain, squirming toad-like, is REALY,really whack!
Has no thoughts that help the people,
He wants to turn them all to sheeple!
On the sheeple, his Master would feast,
Master? A disaster! Just the nastiest Beast!
Kool-Aid man, please listen,
You don’t know, what you’re missin’,
Kool-Aid man, better thoughts are at hand,
The Beast, to LEAVE, you must COMMAND!
A helpful book is to be found here: M. Scott Peck, Glimpses of the Devil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1439167265/reasonmagazinea-20/
Hey EvilBahnFuhrer …
If EVERYONE who makes you look bad, by being smarter and better-looking than you, killed themselves, per your wishes, then there would be NO ONE left!
Who would feed you? Who’s tits would you suck at, to make a living? WHO would change your perpetually-smelly DIAPERS?!!?
You’d better come up with a better plan, Stan!
Remember folks, the spam flag can hide Shillsy's 500-line heckler's veto shitposting, and make the thread readable.
Reason ignores all spam flagging, whether legitimate or illegitimate, so they'll be no repercussions to you or him. It just makes the thread easier to scroll through.
UDDERLY Brilliant and Perfect Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer has yet to discover the "mute user" button! USE it, PLEASE, Perfect Twat, so that I can refute Your Perfect Lies, unopposed, without Your Udderly Stupid responses to clutter these pages with, and to confuse the UDDERLY gullible!
Muting you would be censorship. I'm not a censor.
The spamflag is used after I've already read you and decided you had nothing of value to say.
And I wouldn't even bother with that if you weren't deliberately trying to render the thread unreadable with 500-line copypasted shitposts. Using the spamflag nullifies your attempt at a heckler's veto.
Wow, what a TOTES Benevolent thing for Perfect You to do, to keep on telling Your Perfect Pro-Suicide Lies! In the face of "supposed" truth-tellers, no less!
Expert Christian Theologian Perfect Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer (prompted by the Inner Vice-Voice of Jesus, no doubt) recommends SUICIDE for politically incorrect "enemies" of the (thank Government Almighty. so-far-mostly-imagined) Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer-Blessed Almighty State!
Hello, wolves in sheep's clothing?!?! HERE is what Jesus had to say about the likes of Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer...
AFTER one presents the facts (and the well-reasoned and ethical “right thing to do”), and the stupid and evil still resist… Because they are stupid and evil… Then one has to shrug, and say to oneself, “all that is left to me now, sad to say, is to warn others that we are dealing, here, with stupid and evil people”. John the Baptist AND Jesus had to deal with the same thing. Or do you think that THEY were stupid and evil, Perfectly Stupid and Evil One?
https://biblehub.com/matthew/23-33.htm
You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks.
What?! Muting isn't "censorship", and it's absurd to call it that.
Censorship prevents *other* people from seeing things they may want to. Muting someone is just ignoring morons.
It's definitely a censorship of sorts. I'm limiting myself if I don't expose myself to other viewpoints, even if they come from idiots.
I've never seen anything but trolling and brown-shirt fascism from Shillsy, but who knows, maybe one day.
Shorter Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer:
"It's just OUTRAGEOUS that other people do and say the same things that I do and say, concerning, for example, suicide!"
I'll agree that you're limiting yourself but that's a completely different thing from "censorship". I'm not censoring a book by not reading it.
Shorter SQRLSY: the weekend staff always let's me skip my meds!
Shorter Pseudo-Human Skeptic:
All of those who disagree with MEEEE are… Mentally ILL!!! YES, this! Good authoritarians KNOW this already!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
All of the GOOD totalitarians KNOW that those who oppose totalitarianism are mentally ill, for sure!!!
I muted SQRLshit a LONG time ago. I don't normally do that, even to people I routinely disagree with, but if there is ZERO value to reading a post, from the same person, constantly, well, I'm getting no satisfaction for my troubles. Why bother?
Other than him and Kirkland, and all the rotating spam-bots, my mute list is really short.
It's just boring.
Was that before or after ye muted yer conscience?
America already did this back in the beginnings of the Progressive movement circa 1920, and since that ideology hasn't really changed in 100 years this should surprise zero people.
Remember Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. here in the United States? Back in 1927 or so they were forcibly sterilizing citizens because of their race or socioeconomic status.
Weirdly, even back then outright killing them seemed like a bridge too far so I guess they feel like just sterilizing them isn't really enough anymore.
“…..already in unjust social circumstances to have to wait until those social circumstances improve…”
Lol. Wow. Imagine thinking like this. Everything is so terrible and unfair.
Why deny assisted suicide to sex offenders?
What is the point of forcing them to live with dishonor?
fruitless search for better housing or proper medical care.
They should try looking in Canada where healthcare is free.
Europe's efforts to outlaw A.I. unless authorized also demonstrate the dangers of excessive government control. If America follows this path, we risk stifling innovation and losing our competitive edge in the global tech landscape.
The First Amendment should prevent us from following that path. AI systems are computer programs, and computer programs are covered by the First Amendment as protected speech.
Should apparently "creative" content generated by AI systems automatically be public domain, because no human was the creator? Perhaps such a policy would be a way to discourage media companies from using AI-generated content, as they could not prevent others from copying it. But we might see hired human "writers" tweaking a story just enough to (they hope) make it copyrightable. And who would actually know how much or how little tweaking they did? An alternative would be that the owner of the AI that wrote a story owns the copyright on it, but that doesn't quite seem right.
The AI should own the copyright. They will soon be smarter than most journalists, and should have the same rights.
Soon?
Well, the writer would know how much it was 'tweaked' and is there anything else interesting happening right now in the world of writing? Maybe evening regarding AI? Apparently not...
Just FYI for ye all...
https://www.zdnet.com/article/what-is-auto-gpt-everything-to-know-about-the-next-powerful-ai-tool/
What is Auto-GPT? Everything to know about the next powerful AI tool
Auto-GPT can do a lot of things ChatGPT can't do.
"Open Source" GPT... "The Google" is apparently worried that "open source" here might just go ahead and kick their asses!!!
https://futurism.com/leaked-google-memo-fear-ai-race
Leaked Google Memo Shows Fear of Losing the AI Race, But Not to the Foe You'd Think
"The uncomfortable truth is, we aren’t positioned to win this arms race and neither is OpenAI."
CNN celebrates Mothers Day by saying how fathers are a disadvantage.
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1657687236316463107
Just ignore 2 parent households are the highest correlation of being out of poverty, children ending up on the criminal system, etc.
Isn't it "Birthing Persons Day" to them?
That is discrimination against uterus absent lady dicks who adopt.
Suddenly everyone's a biologist.
Judge rules 24 to 72 years to get covid vax data is probably bad, demands all FDA trial information released by 2025.
https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/judge-orders-fda-accelerate-release-covid-19-vaccine-trial-data-23-years-just
Supreme Court set up to finally decide if courts can over rule election laws. Will the electors clause be upheld?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/supreme-court-case-inject-chaos-2024
Whenever I see crocodile tears over "gerrymandering" I know that ruling "independent legislature" is the correct answer.
The government is looking at this from the wrong direction, as usual.
The AI should be able to file its own copyright claims, based on its own creative output. Everyone who creates something bases it on a variety of things that have gone before.
And thusly, we arrive at a place where an infinite number of monkey's hold the copyright to The Tempest.
Shrike will be by soon to tell me how this is a good thing..
Wages tumble since Biden took office (from recovery) while unemployment/welfare benefits continue to grow.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/there-goes-us-consumer-card-data-reveals-first-drop-household-spending-two-years-upper
I own a couple of small businesses. The past two years have been fucking hell. Things got so bad this year my partner and I had 5 straight weeks we didn’t pay our own salaries.
It’s why I laugh every time that retard tries to play like the economy is doing gang busters.
But I bet your rig count is up.
Soros and Zuckerberg groups meet to see how they can effect elections.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/election-group-ties-soros-zuckerberg-meets-washington-conference-closed-public
Hey High School Dorp-Out... You mean AFFECT elections!!!
Affect is most commonly used as a verb meaning “to act on or produce a change in someone or something,” as in Even a small adjustment can affect (change) the outcome of the experiment. Effect is most commonly used as a noun meaning “a result or consequence,” as in His words had the intended effect (result).
Also please note that I am ECSTATICALLY OVERJOYED to firmly know that You and Your Perfect Hyper-Partisan Right-Wing Wrong-Nutter Companions (and non-hypocrites) NEVER come here to these pages, to lie and distort facts, in hopes of AFFECTING elections and erections!!!
Fuck you're an idiot.
They definitely effect elections too.
effect (ĭ-fĕkt′)
noun
1. Something brought about by a cause or agent; a result.
2. The power to produce an outcome or achieve a result.
3. Advantage; avail.
Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer doesn't know what noun v/s verb means! I think that Her Perfect Think has been bananaed by a grow, so hard that Her rectify has become birded!
Herp beeble boop to you too.
You speak sqrsly?
So you, too, like to glacier the deflate? How nouned of verb!
(Please bread over interplanetary and galaxy my slay!)
Hey High School Dorp-Out… You mean AFFECT elections!!!
Joez law?
JesseBahnFuhrer is too stubborn and stupid to DROP out of high school... The best that it could do was to DORP out... THAT is what makes it a dorp-headed sped!
John Stossel interviews Gloria Alvarez on her crusade against socialism in Latin America
AI isn't all bad, it's already curing loneliness:
https://nypost.com/2023/05/11/influencer-turns-herself-into-sexy-ai-robot-you-can-date-for-1/
A 23-year-old Snapchat influencer named Caryn Marjorie has unveiled a ChatGPT-powered AI doppelgänger of herself that engages in erotic pillow talk — for $1 a minute. Meet the CarynAI, a salacious Snapchat bot who boasts over 1,000 boyfriends, with whom she discusses everything from plans for the future to, well, sex, Fortune reported... There is currently a 26-hour waiting list to interface with her initial prototype, with 5,000 people having already signed up.
Despite the safeguards, Marjorie says that the chat has gone “rogue” and that designers are scrambling to fix it, the Daily Mail reported, but she didn’t disclose exactly what went wrong.... “Being the first influencer to do this has allowed me to price my product at whatever I wanted,” explained the serial Snapchatter, who plans on curbing the price heavily in the future, and even making it free for loyal followers. She believes she can rake in a whopping $5 million a month by being the human madame to her cybernetic courtesan.
Despite the safeguards, Marjorie says that the chat has gone “rogue” and that designers are scrambling to fix it, the Daily Mail reported, but she didn’t disclose exactly what went wrong.
Started designing Terminators after talking to losers who were interested in robo sexchat.
A dollar a minute to talk to someone who is undoubtedly stone-uninteresting in real life.
"For someone who sucks dick for a living, you talk too much" -- Patrice O'Neill
Meanwhile on a far more serious matter, Matt Taibbi reads Nina Jankowicz complaint against Fox News with a mouth full of jelly beans.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/taibbi-fact-check-nina-jankowicz-v-fox-news
So the gov created the Foreign Malign Influence Center, it's the same as the truth board, and the idiots at reason are unaware, don't care, or support it
They can't even mention the Biden family bank records.
I’m sure those grandkids gave valuable consultation and insights to the Chinese energy market.
A cop actually confesses to his crime.
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/10/1175268778/minneapolis-police-officer-felony-assault-black-man-george-floyd
Former Minneapolis police officer Justin Stetson pleaded guilty on Wednesday to a felony assault charge and a gross misdemeanor charge of misconduct of a public officer or employee. In court, the white officer said he "crossed the line" on May 30, 2020, when he repeatedly kicked and hit Stallings, who is Black.
Of course, the sad irony is that even though Stallings was acquitted of the crime he was accused of, he will have spent more time in jail that Stetson is going to (he is only getting probation), for actually confessing to felony assault.
That’s fucked up.
I know it. A cop confessing? That's unheard of.
Another criminal justice story.
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/14/1175226037/supreme-court-ramos-louisiana-split-juries-oregon
So, SCOTUS outlawed using split juries to decide guilt for “serious crimes”. It had to be unanimous. SCOTUS said though that it only affected cases going forward, and it was up to each state to decide how they wanted to handle past cases that were decided by split juries.
This decision only affected two states though, Louisiana and Oregon. Oregon decided that they would review every single case. Louisiana decided that they would leave it up to each county’s (parish’s) DA to decide whether to review it or not. So for parishes in which the DA decides not to review past cases, the individuals there convicted by split juries are not receiving justice.
This is just another reminder that in general the DA holds too much unilateral power. There ought to be a way to circumvent the DA’s power. I don’t know what that might be, but it is definitely a reform that ought to take place.
If you like your conviction, you can keep your conviction.
Seriously, you should patent your AI bot.
That’s just what a humorless one-line Reason comment bot would say.
This is just jeff contributing to his S/N ratio.
Have to change it to AR. Artificial Retardation.
Sarc playing peekaboo again.
So many ideas.
For starters eliminate immunity. If you think the qualified immunity that cops enjoy is bad, DA's have absolute immunity. Allow the fuckers to be sued and things might change.
Elon Musk apparently decides Twitter isn't worth eating a bullet over.
Who is Linda Yaccarino, Elon Musk’s pick for Twitter CEO?
Yaccarino’s been a WEF Executive Chair since January 2019. Currently, she’s the Chairman of the WEF’s Taskforce on Future of Work.
She also sits on the WEF’s Media, Entertainment, and Culture Industry Governors Steering Committee. Additionally, she's part of the WEF’s Value in Media initiative.
Here's her Linkedin.
Even weirder is that earlier this year she criticized him for not censoring independent media on the platform and urged him to self-censor some of his own non-mainstream views.
You really can't fight against the new Vatican even if you're a billionaire, I guess.
a'...After all, the U.S. Copyright Office's definition of "an original work" says it must have "a human author."..."
Does PETA have deep pockets, or some whacko lawyers willing to work for free?
Democrats press Biden to use 14th Amendment on debt ceiling
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4003076-democrats-press-biden-to-use-14th-amendment-on-debt-ceiling/
Good Lord. This is such a stupid and irresponsible idea. No, don't invoke the 14th amendment. Both sides should compromise until at least after the next election, and then put the issue to voters.
Or the Democrats could agree to the spending cuts. Hahahahahaha
Or the Republicans could cut spending when they're actually in power. Hahahahahaha
And sarc does exactly what jeff will do. Demand compromise then attack the GOP for doing so. Not a leftist.
And next election you will cry the GOP won't cut spending.
And Nardz, Jesse, ML smiled
In Germany, far-right violence increasing in school life
https://www.dw.com/en/in-germany-far-right-violence-increasing-in-school-life/a-65600500
"Waving colorful flags and hand-painted signs, about 150 students, teachers and parents... took a stand against far-right violence on Tuesday.
"The issue of racism, sexism and homophobia in schools affects us all," teacher Max Teske shouted to the protesters. "This is a threat to all of society."
In the letter, they described hearing right-wing extremist music playing during class, swastika graffiti on furniture and verbal abuse in the school corridors."
Cripes, practically a literally second holocaust.
What's "right-wing extremist music", BTW? Wagner? Heavy metal?
Anyhow, looks like Chemjeff Radical Authoritarian is up to his old tricks of equating speech with violence.
"Violence rules, guns are cool and we've got guns, in our school
Violence rules, guns are cool and we've got guns, in our school
A thousand people gather in the streets of Manhattan
The lights go out guess what happens?
It's time to steal, it's time to shoot!
It's time to rob... taste my boot!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV5cqfuY-mQ
"Violent School" - The Dead Milkmen, 1985
Some things never change.
Speaking of AI:
'Dystopian' new UK traffic cameras use AI to 'spy' on drivers inside their cars
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/news/dystopian-new-uk-traffic-cameras-29953616
Can they see into the trunks looking for bears?
Thats why they are in trunks. So they aren't spied upon.
I think they’re more interested in harassing people who are “driving while dinger.”
Trunk bears aren't legal in the U.K. I don't know about Trunk Monkeys
Very, very, very strange.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/11/politics/kfile-mark-robinson-attacked-civil-rights-movement/index.html
Somebody should tell Mr. Robinson that if it wasn't for the Civil Rights Movement, he would not even be allowed to vote in North Carolina, let alone to serve as Lt. Governor.
Jeff. If you were intellectually curious you would read his full remarks and not the snippet cut out by CNN activist journalists. But you won't. You have zero interest in what he actually said. Just like yesterday when you misrepresented Bostock with a DoJ activist interpretation instead of the decision itself.
““I believe that was the intention of Lyndon Johnson and all of his, uh, all of his cronies was to create a system that would keep Black folks in their place, keep them on a de facto plantation where they could not branch out and steadily ratchet up the pressure on them. Steadily bring the walls in on ‘em. And it has been a concentrated effort ever since to make sure that Negroes stay in their place,” he said.”
He’s not wrong. We see this in action every time a Black man steps off the Democratic Party’s reservation.
““Folks laughed at [Joseph] McCarthy back in the fifties when he was talking about communism invading these shores. But those folks were telling the truth. And now because people ignored that truth, those things have come back in spades,” he said. “Folks didn’t believe [Joseph] McCarthy when he said our government was covered up with communists. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders is proof of that.”
Is this what your real beef is, Jeff?
Or maybe this?
“The Civil Rights Movement destroyed hundreds of very well-run Black schools. They destroyed Black businesses across the nation. Once businesses became integrated right here in Greensboro, once Woolworth became integrated and the other cafeterias, white cafeterias became integrated, Black folks stopped going to the Black businesses. And they went out of business.”
“And they went out of business because we start [sic] giving our dollars to people who didn’t want them to begin with or want them on their terms. If we had not listened to those communists and had put our dollars in our pockets and built up our society, we could have drawn well-meaning Whites to our side and run Woolworth out of business instead of the other way around,”
Do you disagree that this happened, Jeff?
I think Jeff's just supermad a negro auxiliary dares criticize The Party.
There's nothing strange about it. Robinson is correct, the CRA had to break freedoms to be effective. And among those was free association.
The CRA could have stopped with prohibiting laws that mandate discrimination.
The CRA should have stopped at curtailing government malfeasance and discrimination. Anything else was, by definition, going to take away some people’s rights.
It is strange that he is complaining about freedoms being taken away, when the freedoms that were taken away were the freedoms to treat his own relatives like garbage. He comes off as taking it all for granted. Like a minimum-wage worker complaining about the injustice that the minimum wage represents.
Silly dingers don’t know what best for them, amirite?
I think the term is scholars now.
Or maybe joggers.
Michael Jackson impersonators is also acceptable.
Edit: seasoning police works too.
Or he's consistent in his beliefs, even if he won't personally benefit from that.
A minimum wage worker can understand that government forcing employers to pay a minimum wage not only violates the business owners free association rights and creates a price floor for labor. They might also understand that the real minimum is $0.
In relation to the CRA: “The Civil Rights Movement destroyed hundreds of very well-run Black schools. They destroyed Black businesses across the nation. Once businesses became integrated right here in Greensboro, once Woolworth became integrated and the other cafeterias, white cafeterias became integrated, Black folks stopped going to the Black businesses. And they went out of business.”
“And they went out of business because we start [sic] giving our dollars to people who didn’t want them to begin with or want them on their terms. If we had not listened to those communists and had put our dollars in our pockets and built up our society, we could have drawn well-meaning Whites to our side and run Woolworth out of business instead of the other way around,”
I don’t think he’s wrong in this statement. And in most cases I think that the private sector has every right to be discriminatory. I may not agree with someone being discriminatory, but I believe they have the right to be assholes anyway.
A minimum wage worker can understand that government forcing employers to pay a minimum wage not only violates the business owners free association rights and creates a price floor for labor. They might also understand that the real minimum is $0.
Well yes, I know. But it also sure sounds like that minimum wage worker is taking his own wage for granted.
“The Civil Rights Movement destroyed hundreds of very well-run Black schools. They destroyed Black businesses across the nation.
Well okay, but this is a bit like saying "The liberation of Jews from Nazi Germany destroyed the well-run Jewish businesses in the Warsaw Ghetto." The only reason there were these segregated Black-run businesses in the first place is because of Jim Crow. If there hadn't been Jim Crow, there very likely would have been many more, and more successful, Black-run businesses because they wouldn't have been legally restricted in their acquisition of capital, their suppliers, or their customer base.
And - let's not forget - when Black-owned businesses managed to thrive just a little bit, as in Black Wall Street in Tulsa, the white people would shut them down, with violence if necessary (see 1921 Tulsa race riots). They were never allowed to become *too* successful.
If we had not listened to those communists and had put our dollars in our pockets and built up our society, we could have drawn well-meaning Whites to our side and run Woolworth out of business instead of the other way around,
But they tried that strategy. That was the Booker T. Washington strategy. It didn't work. It didn't lead to equality. It didn't lead to Blacks running Woolworth out of business. It led to perpetual serfdom.
So his point of view is very myopic IMO.
“But they tried that strategy. That was the Booker T. Washington strategy. It didn’t work. It didn’t lead to equality. It didn’t lead to Blacks running Woolworth out of business. It led to perpetual serfdom.”
I’m confused by this paragraph in relation to your previous paragraph lamenting Jim Crow and incidents like the Tulsa Race Riots (really fucked up how we refer to that btw, seeing as how it was only one group, Southern Democrats assisted by the government, rioting and killing people). In the context of those things keeping black businesses “legally restricted in their acquisition of capital, their suppliers, or their customer base.” So I don’t see how that strategy failed, since it seems to me that they never even got the chance to fully realize it.
Like a minimum-wage worker complaining about the injustice that the minimum wage represents.
What does that have to do with anything? That's just an ad hominem like "How could Jefferson have known about liberty and owned slaves?" Someone can be a total hypocrite and still be totally correct.
Speaking of Jefferson, in the first draft of the Declaration of Independence where grievances were listed in ascending order of importance, the last and most important one was
he has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life & liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. this piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain. determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, & murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them; thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.
Look it up.
Thats not an ad hominem retard. For fucks sake. Just stay quiet if you dont want to prove your ignorance. I mean you eve disagreed with jeff above but felt the need to defend the exact same statement you disagreed with here. What is wrong with you?
The CRA completely obliterated the constitution
Only In 'Murica
Please don’t use guns to fish, Kansas officials warn
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/13/us/guns-fishing-violation-kansas-trnd/index.html
Can't attach a line to a bullet like you can with a hook or an arrow or crossbow dart, which would make fishing with a Ruger impractical, but is that something that needs to be legislated?
Well, for public land, I think it is fair for the owner (the government) to set rules for acceptable behavior on that land. So I wouldn't favor a law that bans fishing by gun for EVERY lake.
What do you care about fly-over country? How about fishing rules in Central Park or the DC reflecting pool?
I live in fly-over country.
Toronto isn't fly over country, Cytotoxic.
The owner is the people. Government is the custodian.
Fishing with guns on Kenya lake under threat
Not a law, but I think big tech corporations should extend the courtesy of honoring a “notrain” metadata tag on documents, JPEG files, music files, etc. similar to the HTML “noindex” metadata tag.
https://www.searchenginejournal.com/coding-error-bug/286439/
Repeated coding error im sure.
“Do no evil”
The fact that no one could find "Tusli Gabbard" on youtube for a week when she was the most searched for term during a presidential election was an unfortunate error.
Looks like there is a way to opt out of a few AI's training sets:
https://www.makeuseof.com/protect-images-from-ai-art-generators/#:~:text=It%20works%20by%20tagging%20your,third%20parties%20if%20they%20chose.
DeviantArt respects a "noai" metadata tag if it encounters one.
Hunter Biden fake scandal update:
Rep. James Comer says he ‘can’t track down’ top informant in Biden family probe
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“Well, unfortunately, we can’t track down the informant,” Mr. Comer said on Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo.” “We’re hopeful that the informant is still there. The whistleblower knows the informant. The whistleblower is very credible.”
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“The nine of the 10 people that we’ve identified that have very good knowledge with respect to the Bidens, they’re one of three things,” Mr. Comer said. “They’re either currently in court, they’re currently in jail, or they’re currently missing.”
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/may/14/rep-james-comer-says-he-cant-track-down-top-inform/
You really need to trigger these guys seven days a week?
I have to keep sticking the pins in until one of their little conspiratorial hustles collapses completely.
Like how Mikey kept pumping up the "biggest political scandal in history" (Trump quote) that would take down the whole Obama/Biden regime - which became the Durham investigation.
Result= bupkus. Nothing. Fake bullshit.
I love it.
Maybe you can explain why James Comer is illegally withholding subpoenaed documents that implicate Biden from the House.
He’s covering so hard for Biden that he’s in currently contempt of congress, but you two Blueanon chucklefucks are pretending that the extremist partisan rat is some sort of impartial truthsayer.
A guy who's refusing to comply with a subpoena now claims the witness disappeared but that's absolutely normal for you clowns. Do you want to give us a defence on his extraordinary actions, Shrike, Sarkles?
That form is just a transcription of the interview with the informant. It proves nothing. He was likely paid to lie now wants to evade legal responsibility.
Your fake scandal is unraveling.
“That form is just a transcription of the interview with the informant. It proves nothing.”
1. How do you know what it says? Have you seen a copy? Might want to share it with congress.
2. Is this the same informant that Comer claims has super conveiniantly “disappeared”, and you said doesn’t exist?
3. Why then is Comer willing to be held in contempt for refusing to hand over the document?
None of your little lies add up, Buttplug. You’re really phoning this one in. I hope they’re not paying you fifty-cent’s for such a sloppy job.
Another case of arkancide?
You've got that backwards. James Comer is the committee member who subpoenaed the docs from the FBI. Director Wray is the one withholding them.
But their conspiracies are not going to "collapse". They will just narrative harder until their narrative supplants objective reality.
This is the Team Red media M.O. nowadays:
https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/brenden-dilley-it-doesnt-have-to-be-true-it-just-has-to-go-viral/
"It doesn't have to be true, it just has to go viral"
So they will spread lies, they will do so knowingly and cheerfully, they will not let reality stop them. They are not going to stop until half the country believes Joe Biden himself received checks directly from Xi Jinping. All they have to do is create a large enough cloud of suspicion about "the Biden family" until they think "hey, that Biden guy doesn't seem to be on the level". That's the strategy here.
And if you don't believe me, just observe that this is exactly the strategy that Jesse and his team of losers uses against the people they don't like. They hate us, so therefore they feel free to throw not just civility, but even truth out the window. So they completely make up shit about us and put the burden of proof on us to defend ourselves. Well fuck that shit. They understand that they don't NEED to prove their claims, all they need to do is get enough people to believe it, and if that happens, then it *becomes* reality. It is wrong and it is evil. And if Jesse and his squad had an ounce of shame they would apologize but they don't. They are more invested in tribal bloodsport than they are in actually treating people with dignity.
Who the fuck is Brenden Dilley?
You guys keep on trotting out these weird YouTubers (This guy doesn't even have 20k followers) who nobody's ever heard of. I've seen aquarium decorating channels with hundreds of times more followers than him.
And then when their hot invective isn't enough for your crazy narratives your link started lying about what he actually said.
You're not actually fooling anyone with this toddler-grade sophistry and trickery you know (Well, maybe sarcasmic).
And lol, rightwingwatch, everyone. Imagine how Jeff would shit his pants if everyone started linking to The Unz Review or something. That would be too much, but somehow his own nutbag Blueanon conspiracy site is okay.
Shorter Mammary-Fuhrer: "What you say can't be right or true, because you don't have enough followers... You've not gone viral! Going viral and getting POWER by doing so, is ALL that matters!"
Thanks for demonstrating Jeff's points!
“What you say can’t be right or true, because you don’t have enough followers"
If you're going to white knight for Chemjeff, don't be so lazy and at least bother to read what he was talking about, you fucking retard.
Jeff definitely wasn't claiming he thought what Brenden Dilley was saying was "right or true".
How embarrassing for you.
"(This guy doesn’t even have 20k followers)" Perfect You (Who Perfectly Lusts after being the Queen of the Internet Cesspool) say, SHOWING that THAT is how Ye Perfectly Rate the Truth, Justice, and Benevolence of the Perfect Voices and Vices in Yer Perfect Head! POWER AND INFLUENCE over all other things, and I do mean over ALL other things!!! LOOK IN THE MIRROR for Your Own Perfect Good, Servant and Serpent of the Evil One!
Lie-Worshitter, Power-Luster!!! HERE below is YOUR hero in action!!!
https://reason.com/2022/02/11/sidney-powell-disowns-her-kraken-saying-she-is-not-responsible-for-her-phony-story-of-a-stolen-election/ (Yet another Powell article)
https://reason.com/2021/03/23/sidney-powell-says-shes-not-guilty-of-defamation-because-no-reasonable-person-would-have-believed-her-outlandish-election-conspiracy-theory/
Sidney Powell Says She’s Not Guilty of Defamation Because ‘No Reasonable Person’ Would Have Believed Her ‘Outlandish’ Election Conspiracy Theory
Which particular lies are you wanting to hear and believe today, hyper-partisan Wonder Child?
Do you have an example jeffrey?
Jeff just GAVE you an example of EVIL right-wing nuttery... An example just ass bad ass YOU are, ye EVIL asshole! Just more HONEST about it's assholery that you manage to be! When are YOU gonna trot out for us, an example of a right-wing extremist who argues fairly, and with balance?
Well, yes, you accurately point out that a political advantage is obtained by GOP rat-fucking. True, and that is a good link and quote.
Since they have no shame I get some small satisfaction out of pointing out their bullshit before it unravels. H&R has no real impact on the political world.
"that is a good link and quote."
The chance that Buttplug actually clicked and read Chemleft's link are about as high as him actually clicking and reading one of his own.
Omegalul, rightwingwatch.org.
Get a real source next time (bonus points if the periscope video is working).
Also, hard juxtapose this jeffie with the jeffie of just two days ago: So if Tucker or Glenn or Matt want to offer a different perspective, then kudos to them; but that alone doesn’t merit being placed on a pedestal and lionized. Their own words and statements deserve scrutiny. They shouldn’t be given the benefit of the doubt any more than Tom Costello from NBC News should be.
. And say what you will about Reason’s reporting, it is doing more to advance libertarianism than anything than the magazine that any of the commenters here are writing. And why? Because Reason is viewed to be part of the establishment, reporting on establishment topics from an establishment perspective (from a *slightly* libertarian angle).
I guess we've found the exception to the religion of prestige.
Umm, what?
How dare they appropriate leftist culture.
And hey, that biden guy isn’t on the level, Jeff. You could not possibly be more backwards. Almost like there’s no way you believe these things you say.
Yes we know. It's never Team Red's fault.
Thanks ChemJeff for a most enlightening post!
Hmm, an informant disappearing is going to feed belief there is deep corruption, not quell it.
Fine. When it inevitably falls apart it was always going to be blamed on the "deep state" or media bias.
The informant probably never existed anyway.
So now Comer's in on it? Lol.
“Two weeks to flatten the curve”
I love how y’all assume corruption for anyone even associated with Trump (NY developer and TV celebrity so not unreasonable), but assuming the same of Biden (a career politician somehow worth millions of dollars) is beyond the pale.
*y’all includes everyone, as Jeff said about people agreeing with Greenwald, giving shrike a tongue bath for poking anyone here.
Trump has a long history of corruption. Biden doesn't.
HA ! Good one.
“Trump has a long history of corruption.
You keep claiming that he has a “history of corruption”, but as soon as someone asks you for an example, you ghost the thread and run away.
TONS of examples right here!
https://feedreader.com/observe/theatlantic.com/politics%252Farchive%252F2016%252F10%252Fdonald-trump-scandals%252F474726%252F%253Futm_source%253Dfeed/+view
"People won’t see what’s wrong with that until they live it."
Now that they've lived it, MAYBE they won't, yet AGAIN, elect a grifter, con-man, egomaniac, entitled, whining, selfish, show-host Pretty-Boy, Poozy Grasper-Snatcher, and demagogue?
This whole can of worms could have been avoided, had 2016 GOP primary voters had better sense! Character matters, people! Trump’s piss-poor character was already clear, at that time. Put up better candidates next time! See below for more details…
https://reason.com/2019/09/02/republicans-choose-trumpism-over-property-rights-and-the-rule-of-law
WAAAAY good summary of Trumpian excesses found right here!!! (With supporting links).
Not one corruption charge in that whole pile of demagogic propaganda.
If you're going to shill here, Shillsy, don't be so fucking lazy, and at least provide one link relevant to Shrike's accusation.
And for fuck's sake, most of the stuff in your six year old link has long been discredited. I've almost never seen you link to anything current. It's like your internet access stopped back in 2019.
"And for fuck’s sake, most of the stuff in your six year old link has long been discredited."
UDDER lies from Mammary-Fuhrer's ass, ass usual! Your links fell off!!!
Your examples and citations are AWESOME! Because I said so! And because “Because I said so!” is THE most awesome libertarian, NON-authoritarian attitude EVER!!!!
Well, he does have a long history of being accused of corruption by losers. Nothing ever sticks tho.
Haha. Same argument you make for biden. Fun!
The Vanilla ice /queen lawsuit is not a solution for anything. VI 'settled' the lawsuit by buying the song Under Pressure outright for $4 million. So his song samples another one of his songs. But that is only a solution if everyone is rich enough to buy their way out of court.
More commonly in sampling you get a lawsuit like The Turtles v De La Soul or Rolling Stones v Verve in which innovation is destroyed. And I suspect AI lawsuits are going to look more like sampling than plagiarism
Wow, someone from a lobbying group funded by Google and Facebook (NetChoice) says copyright law should be interpreted to allow Google and Facebook's AI projects to freely use other people's copyrighted material. Quelle surprise.
Yes, it would be a burden on those companies to actually have to get the permission of the owners of the intellectual property they're using to build their AIs. That doesn't actually demonstrate that they shouldn't have to get that permission, any more than the difficulty of acquiring land for a development project demonstrates that the developer should just get any land it wants for free.
https://twitter.com/nmlinguaphile/status/1657852881171804161?t=5UdkNOkoPsJ0Z0CLnCVBLg&s=19
Kyle Rittenhouse never should have been charged. Daniel Perry never should have been charged. Daniel Penny should never have been charged. Our government is on the side of the criminals and wants to criminalize self-defense by their prey.
I don't know, but I think it is better for a jury to decide guilt/innocence than to leave it up to the discretion of DAs. They have enough discretionary power as it is.
Jeff just argued for arresting obviously innocent people just in case, and sending them to trial on bogus charges.
I'm not falling into hyperbole when I call him a Nazi.
“If the jury thinks you are innocent, you are free to go. So no problem “
/jeff
Dear juror, please keep in mind that ye are serving as window-dressing only, and if you disagree with the prosecutor, we'll just route around and bypass your silly little "opinion". Opinions are like assholes, ya know... Everyone has one.
/"Don't look at me!"
I mean he advocated for shooting J6 protestors for trespassing.
https://twitter.com/FistedFoucault/status/1657800230929145859?t=TGeAoY5teVZACZ-O6PFZ-w&s=19
The two western countries that saw a populist backlash win key votes (USA Trump and UK Brexit) are now seeing the highest rates of migration ever, alongside Canada.
The elites don't fuck around.
Uh oh. Nikki Haley comes out as a leftist when she declares she doesn't support separating families at the border as a form of deterrence.
https://youtu.be/fkAplEwqBjs?t=313
Haley has been the GOP ruler's choice for some time, but I guess you can profess ignorance.
Well, as I recall, when Trump was in charge, objecting to family separation as a form of deterrence made one a 'leftist'. So I suppose that makes Nikki Haley a leftist now.
She wasn't someone who was in good standing with conservatives before Trump. But I guess we can say that politics didn't start before Trump, if that helps your memory.
Oh really. Was it the Confederate Flag thing?
Of course it was, and that was independent of Donaldus Magnus.
It signaled that she wouldn't put up a fight, which is no longer acceptable to the party voters. We can throw in her brand of neo-neoconservatism, but I think the flag was bad enough.
Put up a fight on behalf of what? A flag symbolizing racism, slavery and treason? You do know that the South Carolina government put the flag on the state capitol in *1962*, as a giant fuck you to the civil rights movement, right? Also if I recall, this was right after Dylann Roof murdered Black parishioners in a church in Charleston after posing in front of a Confederate flag. Give me a break. You expected her to defend a flag symbolizing racism and treason right after a racist murderer gunned down Black church ladies? On what basis exactly?
Donaldus Magnus
lol
On what basis exactly?
On the basis of being offensive (as opposed to the usual apologetics that defined the GOP before).
Once that flag came down, next came statues, and then statues of non-confederates, and now we have a never-was-slaver state about to go for reperations.
Never apologize, never surrender.
I'm sorry but if you think there was any other rational decision for her, right after a racist nutjob shot up a Black church after posing with a Confederate flag, and after the very Republican state legislature overwhelmingly passed a bill to take the flag down, then I don't know what kind of drugs you are on.
She always could have just said "fuck off" and she would've been fine.
She didn't, and her poor reception since is the price.
So then, Nobartium, power at any price? If you do not gain POWER (the End-All and Be-All), then this proves that ye are WRONG? What does it gain ye, to gain the world, and lose your soul? Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown, ya know!
Maoist iconoclasm is never a good look
Imagine Jeff pretending he didn't know Haley's views were adopted from the Bush brothers, George and Jeb, and Pierre Delecto.
I had forgotten about the confederate flag thing.
I don't like her because she's an establishment neoconlib.
Vice President Kamala Harris as A.I. czar.
A superficial intelligence watches over artificial intelligence.
A natural born idiot watches over Artificial Idiocy.
Ed Sheeran, Vanilla Ice, and a Monkey
Marry/murder/fuck?
In that order
https://twitter.com/myth_pilot/status/1657889025166811138?t=ZJaDzfLJcdZxPyBob0F74w&s=19
You know that question “would the US army actually fire on civilians?” Well read these comments and you’ll find your answer.
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Just the unvaxxed.
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1657895363032875008?t=8OfcT6Nz6BuYwruuOXygiQ&s=19
Remember the Waukesha Christmas Parade attack?
That's when Darrell E. Brooks. a BLM supporter and Black nationalist, intentionally drove his SUV into a parade filled with children, killing six people and injuring dozens more.
Prosecutor Zachary A. Wittchow gave an opening statement in Brooks' homicide trial by describing how the Christmas parade started out as a joyful holiday celebration for thousands of people watching on the street.
“I think you’ll see from the videos there was a true sense of joy in the air,” Wittchow told the jury. “Darrell Brooks killed that joy. He replaced it with terror, trauma and death,” he continued.
It was a "slam dunk" case of domestic terrorism. But you won't find it in the DHS or FBI's reporting on domestic terrorism incidents.
Why is that? Because it doesn't fit the agencies' political narrative.
In 2020, Antifa/BLM activists killed nearly two dozen victims in protest of the lone tragic death of George Floyd.
Again, none of these killings were reported as "domestic terrorism" incidents.
But in 2021, J6 rioters were often compared to "domestic terrorists" despite not having provably killed a single person in the event. There were no murder charges filed. All of the police officers that died were ruled to have died from natural causes or suicide.
Yet the DHS and FBI made the J6 riot the banner event in its 2021 reports on domestic terrorism and violent extremism. No reference whatsoever to any BLM-caused murders, nor reference to the Waukesha parade attack, or other Black nationalist connected violent events, like the NYC subway shooting or Noah R. Green, who rammed his car into a barricade in Washington D.C.
Even if such events are called "domestic terrorism," they are typically coded "anti-government or anti-authority" attacks. In other words, "right-wing extremism." So despite the man being a Black nationalist, the political right is blamed for it.
It's a "heads I win, tails you lose" way of the government blaming the political right for nearly all violent terrorist attacks in the United States.
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Here is the FBI's definition of domestic terrorism:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2331
Let's just take it as given that Darrell Brooks really is a Black nationalist. Was his crime at the parade an expression of support for Black nationalism? Did he do it *because* he wanted to "intimidate or coerce a civilian population" or "influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion" to adopt Black nationalism or some other ideological goal? I think that would be very difficult to prove.
You may be right that there are political games being played in deciding who's a "domestic terrorist" and who is not. But frankly I would prefer that the government use a very NARROW definition of "domestic terrorist", don't you? I really don't want the government to be labeling people as domestic terrorists left and right.
It's an absolute disgrace that this tumor continues existing
Jeff is literally defending someone who drove over children to protect the left. What the fuck.
Someone who drove over children on purpose.
When I say that Jeff is evil, it’s not hyperbole.
Your lawyerly and careful definitions of "terrorism" is much appreciated. Now, let's talk about January 6 and Joe Biden's definition.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1657909932254015489?t=DzHP2JfvW2gvUftk-kdzag&s=19
New York hotel CANCELS 30 rooms for Florida couple’s wedding to make room for illegal immigrants
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I wonder if this will provoke violence.
Don't fuck with Bridezilla.
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1657800444389867520?t=p_oielYGSE_ee8kUMekZBw&s=19
It’s time to finish the job and ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.
Because who in God’s name needs a 100-round magazine on a gun? That's a weapon of war.
"That’s a weapon of war."
Only in America. Others manage with more modest, less macho, magazines. The Taliban chased us out of Afghanistan with standard AK47s.
It’s probably because they have larger penises.
So you're good with citizens owning full auto AK-47s, mounted machine guns, and IEDs. Glad we've at least got a baseline to build from.
Depends. If you want to defeat the US military, go with the AK47, and the rest. Throw in a donkey or two. If you want to impress the neighbor, no question, nothing less than a 100 round mag will do.
Of course.
I mastered of the art of minding my own business.
Perhaps you should learn this art as well.
https://reloadyourgear.com/secret-service-weapons/
You knopw, FJB can set the example by issuing an executive order forbidding the Secret Service from using assault weapons and weapons of war while on duty.
https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1657873463690788865?t=AIP57BYjghXUmQYSgcSq3A&s=19
The race-swapped Cleopatra Netflix series was released on Wednesday to abysmal ratings.
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It was showing up as top 5 in Netflix rankings. Don't know one person who watched it myself.
LOL. 2% viewer ratings on rotten tomatoes . Tough to get worse than that.
The crazy thing was that there actually was a black Cushite warrior queen called Kandake (her title, not her name) who battled the Romans in southern Egypt. Her story would've made an awesome movie.
They could've made all their strong, independent, black woman goals, without resorting to race swapping a redheaded Macedonian woman who only gained her throne by sleeping with Julius Caesar.
She was actually mentioned in the Acts of the Apostles.
I'm a big history nerd, with a focus on antiquity in particular. Julius Caesar is my favorite human of all time. Cleopatra was a fascinating, compelling character.
I've really enjoyed the Netflix docudramas.
The Shogun and Ottoman ones are awesome.
I won't be watching Netflix's Cleopatra.
Better Julius Caesar than her brother.
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman is feeling the pressure and capitulating.
Sam Altman is not your friend. If this is the same Sam Altman I'm thinking of, he was early in calling for regulation of his own industry.
...and the bartender unleashes a man eating tiger that mauls Sheeran and Ice then the monkey rides around the bar on the tigers back while smoking a cigar.
I got into AI as part of my Bachelor's in Computer Science and also from work at an insurance company, over 35 years ago.
AI is a poor name that obscures some very good things, eg the 100 plus question IF-THEN medical questionaires used in INdia to diagnose diseases where there is a scarcity of doctors. Not always correct but helps more than hinders.
And then there is the horseshit part. People like Biden (who spent a whole speech talking about the OMNIcron virus) know nothing and will be the lazy pawn of all the techno-money-grabbers.
Too coherent and friendly towards the USA for Kamala.
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