Brittney Griner's Russian Imprisonment Outraged the Country. So Should Vladimir Kara-Murza's.
The journalist and dissident, who was sentenced to 25 years in a penal colony for criticizing the Russian government, has not received the same attention.

A U.S. resident was recently sentenced to several years in a Russian penal colony. I'm not referring to Brittney Griner, the college basketball wunderkind turned WNBA star. But you would be forgiven for thinking so.
I'm referring to Vladimir Kara-Murza, the Russian dissident, journalist, and activist who on Monday was given a 25-year prison term for offenses related to treason. In President Vladimir Putin's Russia, that word is mostly devoid of meaning. Kara-Murza's offenses essentially amount to repeatedly criticizing the Russian government for its obvious and objective barbarism. That includes, for example, the Kremlin's not-so-secret habit of killing, or attempting to kill, those who step out of line, something Kara-Murza himself was likely a victim of—twice. He survived poisonings in 2015 and 2017, though they have left him with severe polyneuropathy, a condition causing numbness in the extremities.
"The entire world sees what Putin's regime is doing to Ukraine," Kara-Murza said, addressing Arizona's state Legislature in March 2022. "It bombs civilian areas, hospitals, and schools." He was arrested in Russia the following month. The government is sending him to a "strict regime penal colony" which has the most grueling conditions of the country's carceral system—a high bar to meet, and an ominous sign of what may be to come with the lingering health issues he faces from the poisonings. "I do realize that he doesn't have five years, let alone 25 [in prison]," said his wife, Evgenia Kara-Murza.
But despite that Kara-Murza has been held unjustly for over a year, and despite that he was arrested for advocating ideals core to the American ethos, his story has not elicited the same urgency and advocacy for his release—both from the wider public and from U.S. politicians—as seen with Griner. It's worth asking why.
In February of last year, Griner was detained at a Moscow airport after she was found with vape cartridges containing cannabis oil. She was ultimately convicted of smuggling drugs and received nearly a decade in prison, close to the maximum sentence for that offense. The charges were ludicrous, and the penalty was harsh even by Russian standards, according to her attorneys, in what was in all probability a political ploy on the part of the Kremlin. In December, her freedom was secured via a prisoner exchange with Viktor Bout, an arms dealer who in 2011 was convicted of, among other things, conspiracy to kill American citizens.
Over the course of Griner's 10-month incarceration, a particular narrative took shape, especially in certain parts of the American left. It's one that may inadvertently shed some light on why Kara-Murza's story has not penetrated the national consciousness in the same way. "The muted response to Griner's detainment reveals the larger social dynamics at play: American society undervalues its women, its Black, Indigenous, and people of color (BIPOC), and it's [sic] marginalized groups, including LGBTQ+," wrote Dorothy J. Gentry in Dame magazine. "Even globally renowned female athletes of the highest caliber cannot escape the limitations we place on the worth of women."
There is more truth to the inverse. Griner was the sustained subject of national press conferences, news blitzes, and remarks from the highest political offices, including those of President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris. Her immutable characteristics were at the center of that conversation. And her celebrity as a female basketball player didn't hinder her; it bumped her to first priority. There is a reason you probably don't know the story of Marc Fogel, the American teacher in his 60s who is spending 14 years in a Russian penal colony after he was arrested in August 2021—six months before Griner—when authorities found about half an ounce of medical marijuana in his luggage.
And it's why you may never have heard of Kara-Murza, who, to this day, has still not been classified by the U.S. government as wrongfully detained. That's notwithstanding the fact that he meets the qualifications as a permanent U.S. resident who makes his home in Virginia with his wife and three children. If the response to Griner was "muted," then I'm not sure what word exists to characterize the responses to these other stories.
To be clear: Griner, too, was the victim of an unjust assault on freedom from the same embarrassingly brutal regime. It was righteous to secure her release, an opinion I have made no secret of. But the energy that spurred her rescue should not expire now that she's home, nor should that sort of fervor hinge on who is at the front of America's never-ending culture war.
That Kara-Murza is facing decades in a pitiless penal colony for criticizing the government should resonate deeply with a country built on the principle of free expression. Railing against state incompetence is a light pastime in America. In Russia, that comes at a cost. "He's one of the bravest people I've ever known," Meghan McCain, the political commentator and daughter of the late Sen. John McCain (R–Ariz.), tells Reason. Kara-Murza and the senator had a yearslong relationship working on Russia-related issues. "He should be released without any questions whatsoever. And it should be the number one priority of our country and the global community, because if political dissidents and free speech is policed there, it's only a matter of time before it's policed here."
At McCain's funeral, Kara-Murza was a pallbearer alongside, among others, President Biden. One hopes Biden hasn't forgotten.
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At least he was charged. In America they don’t even bother with that.
Vladimir Kara who?
Just pass the Bud-Lite.
When I read about Vladimir Kara-Murza’s arrest a few days ago, I didn’t realize he is a permanent US resident. I just re-checked a few articles about his arrest and they refer to his being arrested at his “home in Moscow”. So, where did he really live?
It’s not impossible to own a home in more than one country.
Mike is pretty dumb.
I guess I gave him too much credit.
Permanent US resident is a legal status that means they can live and work in the US. Has nothing to do with where they live. Think "permanent resident alien" or "green card holder."
No, that's not what it means. Permanent residency, as the name implies, means that you permanently reside in the US and intend to become a US citizen. If you do not satisfy those conditions, you are committing immigration fraud. A "green card" is not just a permission slip, it comes with strict obligations on the green card holder.
Furthermore, permanent residents remain the responsibility of their country of citizenship and continue to be subject to the laws of that country. The US has no business getting between a citizen of a country and their government.
This article explains his residency a little better than most of the articles about his arrest:
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-vladimir-kurza-profile/32367146.html
“In recent years, Kara-Murza lived part-time outside Washington, D.C., with his wife and children. In willingly returning to Russia in April 2022, following his speech in Arizona, he was adhering to an important lesson he said he learned when he was 10 years old.
“In August 1991, people took to the streets of Moscow to stop an attempted coup by hard-liners against Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev. Their actions helped sweep away a powerful, authoritarian regime almost overnight.”
It is questionable whether Kara-Murza has been meeting the conditions of his green card. US immigration is intended for people who give up all prior allegiances to foreign nations and who intend to permanently reside in the US. It looks like Kara-Murza viewed his green card and the US as a convenient staging ground for political activities in Russia. That is not the purpose of a green card, and it doesn't seem to satisfy the conditions of a green card. Nor is it in America's interest to give out green cards to dissidents from all over the world.
Of course, if the purpose of giving him a green card was to create additional political conflict with Russia and have someone who can be used for US propaganda purposes, then: mission accomplished.
Beyond that...it's pretty natural for the US, as an entity, to be more upset about American citizens suffering a political detainment than it is for us to get upset about Russian born citizens of Russia. Maybe we should care, but he chose to continue living in Russia while being a Russians dissident, making this various degrees of Not Our Problem.
We're not the world police.
He's a Russian and British citizen. Read on below.
Which makes him none of America's concern.
And if he isn't actually living in the US and does not intend to give up prior allegiances, he is violating US immigration law.
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Why could that be? (Eyeroll).
I was not outraged. So not the entire country.
The only outrage was her getting any consideration from Washington.
I was outraged at her return, in exchange for the worst arms dealer in the world
Well, the Russians certainly came out ahead on that deal but calling him the worst arms dealer in the world is a stretch by any means.
Washington, D.C is by far the worst arms dealer on the planet.
Same immediate reaction. It only outraged the country inasmuch as it outraged Twitter for a couple of news cycles. Further, vis-a-vis COVID, there's a considerable question (or questions) of 'of Griner's imprisonment' vs. 'with Griner's imprisonment' vs. 'the response to Griner's imprisonment'.
Nor was I
The journalist and dissident, who was sentenced to 25 years in a penal colony for criticizing the Russian government, has not received the same attention.
I wonder why... hmm... it's a puzzlement.
This is your best comment.
Although you and Mickey Rat are being coy, my guess your grievance is that liberals care more about black lesbians than white hetero males. Only problem with that assumption is that liberals have a tradition of caring about dissidents, too.
Leftists didn’t give a crap about Soviet dissidents, so shut up.
What a fuckin clown. The Biden regime is locking up its opponents left and right, nary a peep from siWhite KnightOxide
Much as it pains me to defend leftists, the term was hardly universally synonymous with "Kremlin kocksucker".
Really? Like the J6 dissidents?
I’d say leftists think of J6 dissidents the same way they thought about Soviet dissidents; evil people who were getting what they deserved.
Violent rioters aren't "dissidents".
It is not a grievance, it is an obvious observation. They openly said it was an injustice because she was a black lesbian.
Binion is being coy about what the motivation was.
They do that to give lefties a reason to care.
For there to be a *motivation* for anyone to be ignoring Kara-Murza’s plight his plight would have to actually be ignored. It’s not.
It’s been four days and there is international, not just American, outcry and diplomatic pressure.
The two situations aren’t simply comparable, though.
Binion does have a valid criticism when he writes, “Kara-Murza […] has still not been classified by the U.S. government as wrongfully detained.” But it’s not going to make any difference; Kara-Murza is an arch enemy of Putin, and Putin is not going to let him go.
One important fact Binion left out is that Kara-Murza is a British citizen. Which explains why the UK is announcing sanctions.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65352245
“Vladimir Kara-Murza is also a British citizen, but whilst the US, Canada and Latvia moved quickly to sanction Russian officials they hold responsible for the activist’s plight, his own government has been left playing catch-up.
“On Friday, the UK Foreign Office announced sanctions against one judge and two investigators involved in Kara-Murza’s trial, as well as two Federal Security Service (FSB) agents suspected of links to his sudden, critical illness in 2015 and 2017 caused by a toxin that has never been identified.”
Russia’s response to British sanctions is pure shoe pounding, by the way:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11999725/Britain-hits-Russia-imprisons-dissident-Vladimir-Kara-Murza.html
“Medvedev, deputy chairman of Putin's Security Council, said: 'Britain was, is and will be our eternal enemy.
“'At least until their impudent and disgustingly damp island disappears into the abyss of the sea from the wave created by the latest Russian weapons system.'”
Oh, and by the way, notice how I give cites to back up the things I say. Voluntarily, with no grumbling.
Cite?
Mike again defending liberals. Lol.
Yes: anything that serves the interests of The Progressive Party and The Progressive Oligarchy.
You know, if he had announced his transgender to a woman, like Dylan Mulvaney, he probably would have received all manner of attention. The liberals would be calling for Putin's assassination and for Biden to bomb the hell out of Russia.
Let's see; one who espouses individual freedoms and opposes a tyrant, one who is a shill for democrat policies.
Which one will Biden work for?
Gee, that's a hard one.
I suspect that if I were to ask 100 random people on the street if they were outraged about Brittney Griner, most of them would say "Who?"
I was not outraged about Britney Griner. Not in the least. My only outrage was actually having to continually come across articles about her.
With "Is she the guy Bud Light sponsored?" coming in at No. 2.
"Release him or else...." What does Ms. McCain suggest for "or else?"
Or else the Ruble will be Rubble!
Especially if she bellyflops in the Black Sea.
We will end [insert conspiracy-theory-ZKP-political-target-that-explodes-6 mos.-later here].
Griner's detention didn't outrage the country. Only racist progressives. And they didn't care one lick about her, only the boxes she checked off on diversity bingo.
She was actually guilty. Was what she did really a crime? No. Was the punishment overly harsh for political reasons? Yes. But she was the dumbass who put herself in that position.
Federal punishment for hashish oil isn't much different in the US.
Exactly and this illustrates the arrogance and stupidity of so many Americans who think they can get away with anything, anywhere. Just consider the outrage when Michael Fay was given six strokes of a cane for vandalizing cars in Singapore , that was in 1993, if you recall.
Dude looks like Lenin. Where my revolver at?
I was gonna say Trotsky but we can sort that out... AFTER YOU TAKE YOUR SWEET FUCKING TIME GETTING YOUR REVOLVER READY!
Any how is this different from what our regime is trying to do to Taibbi?
Whelan and Reed are nobodies.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/parents-us-marine-call-release-son-russia-putin/story?id=78277808
Most people just shrugged. She smuggled drugs and she got caught. It didn't help her case that she was saying lots of unfounded, bad things about the US before she was arrested.
Kara-Murza isn't even an American citizen.
She was an American citizen. He is not, so he's not our problem.
She was a darling of the intersectional marxist left so you and Billy were all for her avoiding consequences for her actions. The others, not as useful for the revolution so of course you at best shrug.
For there to be a *motivation* for anyone to be ignoring Kara-Murza’s plight his plight would have to actually be being ignored. It’s not.
It’s been four days and there is international, not just American, outcry and diplomatic pressure.
The two situations aren’t simply comparable, though.
Binion does have a valid criticism when he writes, “Kara-Murza […] has still not been classified by the U.S. government as wrongfully detained.” But it’s not going to make any difference; Kara-Murza is an arch enemy of Putin, and Putin is not going to let him go.
This is fair to point out. I'd even go a step further to add this.
To what extent SHOULD the US care? This is a Russian citizen, who was born in Russia, who continued to live in Russia. Russia didn't violate any other nation's sovereignty in doing this. This is distinctly different than pursuing a political prosecution of an American citizen who was in Russia (and also who did something stupid).
If you want to say we should object to the nation of Russia prosecuting its political enemies, I would rebut that, at present, the US does not have any moral high ground to stand on.
Yeah, by the same people who are engaging in a proxy war with Russia. This guy is a convenient propaganda gimmick to them, nothing more.
The headline claims "Brittney Griner's Russian Imprisonment Outraged the Country". Like almost anything, it outraged some people in the country but not the country as a whole.
Most people in the country know that when they visit a foreign country they must follow the laws of that country - not whatever country they happen to live in.
So Should Vladimir Kara-Murza’s.
So we should be outraged by a non-citizen captured by a belligerent state at war with a non-ally?
I don’t think you understand what non-intervention or non-aggression means.
Only media leftists were outraged by Griner's treatment but I can understand why Billy thinks everyone was outraged, it's been years since his head has been out of his own ass.
I have never met anyone that knew who she was. I assume Billy means the Coast's and DC were outraged. 340,000,000 other people could have cared less or even knew her name.
Didn't outrage me. I've travelled all over the world in uniform and out. One of the first things that was always drilled into my head was respect for the laws wherever you go even if you don't agree with them. Grinner thought she was untouchable as a pro athlete, black lesbian and learned that in another country the laws apply to everyone. The only outrage was The President spending so much effort and time on this at the expense of others. If he wasn't so worried about social justice nonsense Griner would still be in jail. I guess he thought that she was a good trade for The God of War. Thousands of dead disagree
Outraged? Besides a few leftists I don't think many at all were outraged. She fucked around and found out.
Pro tip- learn the laws of the country where you are visiting and don't break them. It's not that hard.
Gonna quibble with the headline...Brittney Griner's imprisonment did not outrage "the nation." Large segments of "the nation" were perfectly happy--gleeful, even--to see a young American woman face lengthy incarceration in a brutal system for trivial offenses, because they didn't like her politics. That's where we've arrived as a nation...if I don't like your politics, I am okay with the most heinous injustices, abuses, or atrocities imaginable being heaped upon you. You deserve it.
if I don’t like your politics, I am okay with the most heinous injustices, abuses, or atrocities imaginable being heaped upon you. You deserve it.
And if I do like your policies I'll wade ever further into a proxy war with a belligerent, nuclear-armed nation to the tune of billions of dollars and potentially millions of lives even if what you actually did was plainly illegal in both countries and you were just too stupid to believe a belligerent country known for tossing people into gulags would throw you in a gulag for it. Newsflash dumbass, don't commit a serial homicide in either country and if you don't want to get killed for it, don't do it in TX or FL or OK or IN or 20 other states. If you just don't want to get killed for it, RU is fine. If you're looking to perpetrate it and get something nicer, I hear Norway just gave Anders Breivig $40K to further his own legal defense.
You highlight the extremes to advance your narrative.
The reality is that most of the country had a more nuanced view. Griner's punishment was excessive, but she did, in fact, commit a crime. As a frequent traveler to Russia, she surely knew better.
I think we can differentiate her situation from others who have been arrested for literally doing nothing wrong.
Gonna quibble with your assertion that that’s where “we” have arrived “as a nation.” For one thing, the nation isn’t a thing that can arrive anywhere. For another thing “we” are not a monolith, but a mish-mash, hodge-podge of ideologies and non-ideologies. For example, although I did not wish Griner any particular harm (in fact I could not care less about her, her opinions or her occupation) and although I think possession of drugs should not be a crime anywhere in the world; I also did not have any particular sympathy for her going to play a professional sport in a dictatorial nation while committing a crime likely to get her arrested there. I certainly did not want the U.S. government trying to negotiate her release or exchange, and it had nothing whatever to do with her political opinions. If there was some poetic justice in a celebrity socialist social warrior getting arrested for a social crime by a socialist dictator, it’s purely coincidental.
You make a very good point–you caught me in a fallacy I’m always quick to pounce on when others use it: hasty generalization. I’m the old geezer muttering “kids these days” after seeing some teen celebrity do something weird on TV.
That said, I do think the kind of blinding animosity that leads people to cheer for anything that harms a perceived political or cultural enemy is becoming more common, and increasingly superdedes any principles. I saw plenty of this in Griner’s case. Then again, maybe this phenomenon is nothing new, and I’ve just bought into a narrative. “People these days.”
Agreed, but the other possibility is that you and I HEAR things like that a lot more because the media report it and echo it more these days as part of their narrative in the culture wars.
The Administration was "outraged" about Griner because she is a favored minority that ticked the intersectional boxes. Black, female, lesbian, pro athlete. Much like Brandon is inviting those 3 people to the WH who staged an insurrection in the State House of Tennessee but could care less about East Palestine, the 6 people murdered in the Christian School or that white woman beaten by a mob of black teenagers in Chicago. If it doesn't fit the race narrative, they are not interested in the least
American pro athletes are like the most oppressed people on the planet. Just listen to their horrific stories on Twitter and you will know!
The only principle involved here is "travelers beware." There is a reason why national sovereignty is still an important principle, anarchists notwithstanding. The Constitution, for example, should only apply to government authority and the law within the national boundaries of the United States of America. The only purpose of government outside the national jurisdiction would be to defend our territory against military invasion or attack from outside. The premise that government should protect American citizens or residents who travel outside the U.S. has always been questionable and fraught with peril from unintended consequences. Although there might be some limited justification for consular representatives assisting "distressed travelers" there is no longer that much justification - what with modern communications technology - for continuing to have consuls and ambassadors residing in other countries in the first place. If you want to travel to Russia for business or pleasure, knock yourself out! If it turns out to have been not such a good idea in retrospect, you have only yourself to blame.
Did Griner's imprisonment really "outrage" the country? Yes, the punishment was excessive, but she *did* actually commit a crime by bringing drugs into the country.
More importantly, should the arrest of a reporter by a dictator outrage us? This particular reporter was not a random tourist. He almost certainly understood the risks he was taking by going to Russia to report on highly political events. In fact, I lost count of the number of reporters who have been arrested, kidnapped or killed while reporting from extremely dangerous parts of the world on assignments that they surely understood were extremely hazardous.
Fortunately for Griner, he/she/they/them checked all the correct woke boxes which made her/his. its/ case so much more compelling.
However in the case of Paul Whelan....well, it would be better if he declares himself to be trans and the Biden administration will go into overdrive to get him out.
Quite frankly, I could care less about Griner, he/she/ they/them should get a real job. From what I've seen , he/she/they/them isn't all that great at B ball anyway.
I hear the local car wash is looking for help, Britney.
Brittney Griner, is a member of the radical political left who clearly and brazenly broke Russian law. How about we also defend people who have a bit more justification for their actions.
On the other hand we need to help the Ukrainians win the war and then hang Pukin and his generals.
No Billy, Griner’s arrest didn’t outrage the country. Few of us cared, because she broke their laws. The outrage was a vocal minority and spurred all kinds of propaganda...like your headline.
Must have been epic, now it’s gone.
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Reason has a pretty consistent authoritarian/totalitarian stance on borders as well. If they are borders to preserve the liberty of desirables or right think, they are pro. Even, as is the case here, to the point of expansion. If they are borders to preserve the liberty of undesirables and wrong think, they are anti. Across a number of issues. Both sides!
Unless they cross Obama/Biden. Then, they’ve got it comin’
Overturn Sullivan, for this exact reason.