Graphic Novels Bear Brunt of New Library Wars Over Access to Books
One of America's richest art forms suffers for seeming realer than other literature. But the war against "graphic imagery" is really a war against certain truths.

The current battles over what books are appropriate in public schools or libraries especially vex those who support an expansive culture of free expression—but who also understand political fights are inevitable when public funds support things parts of the public get angry about. The threat to expression from a decision by public librarians to not stock something or to restrict its access might be smaller than that from the state actively forbidding the availability of certain works anywhere.
Some politicians, though, lately insist on blurring the line between "public librarians making professional judgments" (even if under duress from an angry minority throwing vicious accusations) and using political force to restrict certain books because of their messages.
Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry issued an official document earlier this year in which he straight-up advised citizens to bother local library boards to remove any material considered "sexually explicit" if in a children's collection (and to alert parents if any such material is available digitally), and to ask local authorities above them to order libraries to do so if that doesn't work.
Landry helpfully offered templates to help citizens gin up complaints about books to librarians and local and state officials. He even called on Louisianans to lobby the legislature to pass laws codifying his complaints about "sexually explicit materials." He's using his authority "to try to recruit citizens to change the law to give him more power to control speech. It's really shocking," says Jeff Trexler, interim director of the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund. Rather than being a mere executive branch official enforcing laws, Landry has made his office a lobbying machine to change laws and to encourage citizens to harass librarians over books they find objectionable—even naming nine books he wants them to complain about. (One-third of them are graphic novels, including Alison Bechdel's Fun Home, a highly lauded graphic memoir about a lesbian cartoonist's troubled relationship with her gay father.)
Meanwhile in Texas, Republican state Rep. Matt Krause in October 2021 took it upon himself to mail school districts a list of 850 books, asking whether they were carrying them, and how much they paid for them (with the threat of investigations implied), with a further request they identify any book they carry that deals with, among other things, "human sexuality." The next month, Gov. Greg Abbott joined in with a vague demand that Texas school boards search and destroy undefined "pornographic or obscene material" in public school libraries.
As stated in an April 2022 lawsuit against the censorious library policies of Llano County, Texas, "the 850 books on the Krause List include famous and award-winning titles such as Between the World and Me and We Were Eight Years in Power by Ta-Nehisi Coates, and The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness by Michelle Alexander, as well as other fiction and nonfiction books related to sexuality, sex education, gender identity, racial equality, abortion, and teen pregnancy."
As that list indicates, while the concept of sexually charged material "harmful to minors" is in front of the new campaign against libraries, it's often, as the plaintiffs in that suit against Llano County argued, less a fight against objectively obvious smut and more "Viewpoint discrimination…censorship based on a government actor's subjective judgment that the content of protected speech is offensive or inappropriate" which is "the most pernicious and egregious type of content-based suppression."
These library fights are tied up with revived anxieties about race relations, gender roles and expression, and a frequently performative desire to protect children from actual sexual abuse or alleged "grooming." The American Library Association (ALA) found that "most" targeted books of the 1,597 titles challenged in 2021 were "by or about Black or LGBTQIA+ individuals."
PEN America noted in a detailed September 2022 report called "Banned in the USA: The Growing Movement to Censor Books in Schools" that 41 percent of banned books deal with LGBTQ characters or issues and 40 percent have major characters of color. In their estimation, only 22 percent "contain sexual content." One creator of a deliberately innocuous, in language and sex terms, 2019 graphic novel called New Kid about a black kid's experience, Jerry Craft, has nonetheless found his books challenged by aggrieved reactionaries, and temporarily removed from Katy, Texas, school libraries, for allegedly pushing "critical race theory." Craft insisted to the Washington Post he had to Google the term when he heard it.
The years 2021 and 2022, according to the ALA, saw the most public challenges to books' presence in libraries per year since they started tracking at the turn of the century. And PEN America estimates in "Banned in the USA" that "at least 40 percent of the bans counted in the Index of School Book Bans for the 2021–22 school year are connected to political pressure exerted by state officials or elected lawmakers. Some officials for example sent letters specifically inquiring into the availability of certain books in schools, such as occurred in Texas, Wisconsin, and South Carolina."
Lawmakers across the country have been taking the debate about books beyond librarians (who are, yes, also public officials using public funds) and putting their fingers on the scale with legal threats. They're also being pushed along by a squad of new citizen action groups, most prominently "Moms for Liberty."
Graphic Novel Fights Across the Nation
Missouri, for example, last summer passed a law imposing criminal penalties on library officials who let students see books with "explicit sexual material" which understandably led to hundreds of books being preemptively removed from libraries around the state.
The Comic Book Legal Defense Fund's Jordan Smith observed that "the visual nature of comics and graphic novels has forced them to bear the burden of this bill. The standard 'works of art' [as an exception] seems only to apply to fine art. Graphic novels require the same consideration as prose when determining if they are a work of art and in some cases don't seem to be receiving that."
Indeed, Smith points out that graphic novel versions of famous prose works have been removed in cases where their sources have not, including "The Handmaid's Tale, American Gods, Crime and Punishment, and 1984. Yes, that 1984! Also removed from the school libraries were autobiographical and biographical materials, including Gender Queer, Fun Home, Maus, and A Dangerous Women: Graphic Biography of Emma Goldman."
Utah's May 2022 law H.B. 374 had already led, Smith reports, only a few months into the 2022–23 school year to "280 complaints about books….At the current rate, Utah has the potential of matching two-thirds of the challenges made nationally last year alone, a record-breaking year for book challenges in the United States." That law bans, Smith says, "essentially any depiction of nudity and/or sex. So regardless of the artistic value of the work as a whole, or intention of the work, the Miller Test [from the Supreme Court's 1973 decision laying the ground work for modern obscenity law] for obscenity is ignored; the book or graphic novel is automatically considered sensitive material and therefore unsuitable for any public school setting."
Under a bill that passed the Indiana Senate last month and is now being considered by a House committee, educators could face a Level 6 felony, which carries a maximum penalty of 2.5 years in prison and a $10,000 fine, for passing on "harmful" material to minors, with educational purposes no legal excuse. As Indiana state Sen. Jim Tomes told the Indiana Capital Chronicle, "I hope it's enough of a chilling effect that they will come to their senses, and have it upon themselves to see to it that for the kids entrusted in their custody, they will do their best to protect their innocence."
The Missouri law has not yet led to any prosecutions, which might be intentional, since the law's very existence has already helped to nix many of the books the lawmakers wanted nixed, without creating an opportunity for a constitutional legal challenge Missouri might lose. "The infringement of free speech and the patchwork nature of this bill leads me to believe it is in place solely to intimidate and control the material in the school system," Smith wrote in an analysis of Missouri's S.B. 775. Even without prosecutions, the CBLDF's Trexler said in March at a presentation at WonderCon in Anaheim, California, the law's very existence is designed to make "people to be so afraid of going to jail, for being arrested and having the stigma of being called a child pornographer."
And it's not like the new wave of laws about access to books never leads to legal action: According to PEN's "Banned in the USA," "criminal charges have been pursued against school officials and librarians in a number of cases in the past year. From Texas to Florida to North Carolina to Rhode Island, sheriffs have received complaints of the distribution of pornography in schools, among other charges. PEN America found at least 15 documented cases of criminal charges being filed or complaints being filled out regarding distribution of obscenity or pornographic material in public and school libraries during the 2021–22 school year."
Why Are Graphic Novels Particularly Targeted?
The most banned/challenged/removed book in America in the past two years is a 2019 graphic novel, Gender Queer by Maia Kobabe. Yes, being a memoir of gender and sexual identity confusion by a born-woman who felt mostly asexual and not attached to either of the two standard gender roles painted a target on itself; but that it is a book-length story told through drawn images is central to why it is so often singled out.
Comics uniquely scramble the complex mental sense of abstraction necessary to the calm, measured, intelligent judgment of works of art or literature. Words, our minds seem to grasp, are not deeds or actions, are not the thing they discuss. But drawn images all too often perplex us into believing that representations of, say, sex acts are somehow the same thing, as fraught or powerful or damaging, as the acts themselves. (Kobabe's emotional journey is to some degree about her asexuality; the most sexual image is oral sex being performed on a dildo by one of her lovers.)
Trexler considers the Missouri bill essentially an "anti-Gender Queer" bill, insisting in an interview that "the bill's main sponsor very openly wanted to target that." One reason, Trexler thinks, is that the occasional disconnected shocking image from it or other graphic novels "plays well on YouTube and Twitter and TikTok" to gin up vital social media outrage to the benefit of the pressure groups pushing for more library restrictions.
Gender Queer had a major victory last August in Virginia, when a lawsuit to have it presumptively declared obscene in the state failed, for many complicated reasons related to the law under which the suit was brought, but partially because Virginia Circuit Judge Pamela S. Baskervill thought the plaintiff did not prove that the book was obscene under ruling U.S. doctrine, which requires a balanced consideration of the full work's possible "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value." In a plaintiff's filings in the case, Trexler pointed out, he tried to revive old discredited psychology articles from the original 1940s anti-comics scare that implied that comics were inherently more psychologically damaging to children than prose books.
As Trexler explained in an email, "It's easy to dismiss this as a careless reference to long-dismissed research from the height of the mid-century comic book scare – which it is – but there's also something more significant happening here that we're seeing nationwide. Graphic novel challenges are using the contemporary concern for children's mental health as grounds for restricting access to books.
"Back in the '40s and '50s, the primary concern was that comics were turning kids into juvenile delinquents," Trexler says. "Now, it's avoiding trauma, preventing addiction, and keeping kids from suffering other psychological harm. A particularly telling example of this: when Leander, Texas school officials decided to place restrictions on certain books until students had access to a sufficient number of staff counselors."
Very old prejudices against comics as a form are thus being revived in this debate, "a perception that graphic novels are sub literate and that the fusion of word and image in a still picture in a graphic novel creates problems mentally," Trexler said at a panel at WonderCon. He considers the root of the current wave of library censorship and segregation of comics in essence "a battle not just against specific books, but against graphic novels."
The Skewed Politics of Public Morality
These moral arguments about innocence violated are political; the forced imposition of one group's will over the entire community that uses the library.
Groups like Moms for Liberty bringing to bear their national goals for restricting certain types of books can override any percentage of local citizens who prefer not to see books barred from their library, especially if they spook library professionals with accusations of being, in essence, sexual abusers of children by letting certain books remain in libraries, or in certain sections of one. (A March 2022 ALA survey found 71 percent of Americans oppose such politicized removals.)
PEN America finds in "Banned in the USA" that around half of successful book challenges in the 2021–22 school year were the result of such activist groups—not just disconnected upset parents—asserting that the new wave of library anger is "the work of a growing number of advocacy organizations that have made demanding censorship of certain books and ideas in schools part of their mission." Most of these groups came into existence in the past two years, and they "employ tactics such as swarming school board meetings, demanding newfangled rating systems for libraries, using inflammatory language about 'grooming' and 'pornography,' and even filing criminal complaints against school officials, teachers, and librarians."
Their actual effects are more often political in a more niggling way than the drama of men with guns dragging librarians away: often these new local and state laws or processes aimed at alleged library smut just gin up lots of bureaucratic creation of teams and councils and ex officio members responding to complaints by writing reports defending their belief that some given graphic novel is or is not tantamount to the crime of actual child pornography, with tons of busywork and endless public meetings for librarians and local officials, with the ever-present threat of being called a child pornmonger in local papers or civic meetings hanging over every interaction.
Even the most censorial parent must know that getting a work they object to out of a library, school or public, is no certain protection of their kids' innocence in our highly wired world where any removed book—or much worse—is a click away. But this whole movement isn't about actually eliminating children's access to the things they dislike or think are bad for them: it's about the civic signal that certain ideas held by certain people are just not welcome in their community, with ideas such as gender confusion, homosexuality, or that black people in America have historically and/or currently faced a lot of barriers of prejudice and abuse leading the pack of forbidden notions.
Comics uniquely disrupt subtle distinctions and allow you to not think about meaning, implication, or context; images make it seem like the thing is right there, hitting your retina not as a concept but as a felt reality. Drawn images can seem less like ideas—which they are, same as words—and more like a thing itself, whether delightful, disgusting, or feared. We know that it's not, when we think about it. Censors, trying mostly to keep certain ideas and ways of life out of children's heads, are given a useful weapon by this illusion of reality that comics convey more than prose.
As Moni Barrette, president of the ALA's Graphic Novels and Comics Roundtable, explains in an email, some of the current war on comics is rooted in often silly category errors like believing that the term "graphic" in "graphic novel" just inherently means inappropriately intense sexual images, or that all comics are inherently meant for kids, even ones like Gender Queer which she stresses no competent librarian would have put in a children's section. (Surely the notion that nothing meant for adults should be in a library that also has sections for children is self-evidently absurd.)
But beyond confusion or prejudice about comics in general, these days "Comics written by or about LGBTQIA+ (often labeled 'sexually explicit' even if it's literally 2 queer characters existing in the background of a story) and BIPOC populations (incorrectly lauded as pushing critical race theory) and teaching students how to exercise their own political or bodily rights," Barrette says, are the ones most targeted. "Once you understand the much higher likelihood of any books being banned for including these topics, you start to see the full agenda behind the bans."
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Isn't Gender Queer, the graphic book in the picture, the one featuring a minor getting a blowjob from an adult?
Anyway, the real shame for Reason should be how long Hustler and Penthouse were "banned" from school libraries.
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"the most sexual image is oral sex being performed on a dildo by one of her lovers."
Yeah, that's gonna play well in the bible belt. I'm pretty sure that would get an R rating in the movies.
Anyway, the real shame for Reason should be how long Hustler and Penthouse were “banned” from school libraries.
Not just *school* libraries either. Again, this is the part that continually gets me. I agree that moral crusades are bad, oppression is bad, and that you can't ban stupidity. But when you act like, "I can't give a girl/boy instructional lessons out of a Playboy/Playgirl, respectively in my local public library without their parent's consent? Since when?" it just convinces me that the real problem with the moral crusades, oppression, and banning stupidity is that we aren't trying hard enough.
I could get how you might say, and I would to a large degree agree with, "OK, we need a human sexuality section at our local library that 16-yr.-olds can access. And because porn is ubiquitous nowadays I don't think we should be timid about sexuality in that section as long as we aren't trying to be 'equitous' about it and acknowledge biological realities." but they specifically are not doing that.
I honestly don't understand how "Nobody told me involuntary amateur surgery or sacrificing child virgins wasn't allowed in the library!" isn't defended by the same arguments. Even from a presumably sidelines agnostic libertarian stance, sure the trannies have some sort of internal logic that makes sense to them, so do the people conducting child sacrifices.
1950s-80s Joke: I read Playboy for the articles.
Brian Doherty’s earnest argument in 2023: Children should read sexually-oriented graphic novels for their thought-provoking content.
1980 Peter Graves as Captain Oveur: Billy, have you ever seen a grown man naked?
Brian Doherty’s earnest argument in 2023: An airline pilot getting naked as part of a child’s cockpit tour would provide them valuable educational insight.
It’s ok, the UN has just declared that sex with minors is ok.
Groomers, rejoice!
Thanks for proving the point by failing to actually read or comprehend the article. Skip straight to the outrage, it saves so much time!
No, Gender Queer doesn't feature a minor getting a blowjob from an adult. It features a two page spread with two adults, one of whom is giving a blowjob to a strap on the other is wearing.
Maybe stop showing graphic illustrations of gay sex to little kids, you pedorast bitch.
This isn't about showing illustrations to kids. It's about leaving them in places where a kid might potentially be able to access them, if they so chose.
I agree that adults should be prohibited from showing such content to kids as a precaution against grooming. But this isn't about that, this is about kids being able to seek out such content of their own volition. If some kid is curious I don't really see the harm in them having access to those materials, as long as no one is making them read them if they don't want to.
Stop pretending that treating kids with respect means wanting to fuck them. That isn't just wrong, it's insane. I think the issue is that you don't want to admit that you're hurting children, so you pretend that no child is ever interested in reading these books and it must be that evil adults are foisting the books on them.
"...this is about kids being able to seek out such content of their own volition."
Kids don't get their own "volition". Adults decide what is appropriate. There is a complete double standard. Graphic homosexual kiddie porn (i.e., drawings) is allowed whereas heterosexual kiddie porn is not. And no...The answer is not to allow all kiddie porn into the libraries. And also no...Restricting content in libraries is not book banning. Such material is easily had at Amazon. Similarly men dressed as women coated in make up having garter belts filled with money is allowed but an actual woman doing such behavior is not. (Why is there no outcry by feminists at the shameful sexual parody performed by these men?)
Give this bullshit a fucking rest. The censorious right wingnuts have totally tipped their hand at this point. These are people who consider Michelangelo's David pornographic. And the "little kids" thing is just more bullshit to get the camel's nose in the tent. They talk about grade schoolers to justify it, but then they quickly push to extend similarly sweeping restrictions to middle and then high school kids, and, what the hell, college students too! "It's for the children!" is paternalistic bullshit, whether it's coming from the left or right.
"PEN America finds in "Banned in the USA" that around half of successful book challenges in the 2021–22 school year were the result of such activist groups—not just disconnected upset parents"
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Dear Left: our governor wants p0rn in the p0rn section not next to Curious George and Laura Ingalls. Don't move to Texas.
Horseshit. Your governor and his supporters want to suppress anything they don't approve of, period. They've openly admitted their willingness to exaggerate and flat-out lie to get it, too.
So under the heading of what happened this day in history:
1938 – Superman, created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster of DC Comics, made his debut in Action Comics #1, the first true superhero comic book.
Does Doherty think there should be no limits on library collections directed at grade schoolers? If there are limits, how is that decided? Does he really think a graphic novel with an panel with someone with a dildo in their mouth an all ages book?
If one has had the opportunity to be in a school lately, there are pro-LGBT messages everywhere. It is not the "out" group, it is the group that is explicitly protected, supported and privileged by the school authorities.
One of the books even has a QR code to download grindr. Found in middle schools.
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"One of America's richest art forms "
Is an aesthetically stunted Reason Editor really an improvement on an ethically challenged SOTUS Justice?
Quit sockpuppeting, Shrike.
One of America’s richest art forms
I thought that title was reserved for graffiti.
I was actually thinking that, by Doherty's conception, going around to every copy of Gender Queer and writing, "Queer people should get stabbed in the face." on the page depicting fellatio, would be high art, unquestionably deserving of 1A protection, and not just unable to be removed from library circulation but arguably a mandated part of K-3 public education.
You can always cancel your subscription to the New York Review of Subway Cars
Get rid of public libraries. problem solved.
You'd think the supposed libertarian writer would've come up with that one...
Yes, we definitely don't want an educated public. That wouldn't help the right wing.
As a child in the "Red Belt" of rural California, the high school had a sensible policy: Controversial books were behind the counter and had to be asked for. And even then the librarian could veto based on her estimation of the student maturity level.
So there were books like "I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings" and "Catcher in the Rye".
I don't know why so many graphic novels choose to be graphical in regards to sex, but it's clearly not pornography and they pass the obscenity test. I do own a copy of Maus, and it's not at all sexually explicit, but does have depictions of nudity. Which I guess is too much for some prudes.
I've got no problem with schools and libraries choosing to make age appropriate materials available. Not everything that is called "banned" is actually banned. But these decisions should not be made on the basis of politics. Crazy but it's the way we used to do things before we decided that everything is political.
p.s. The idea that everything is political comes directly from Marx. Just saying.
If memory serves, the more controversial image in Maus is of a suicide. Also, there was a question of whether it was appropriate for the target age group, not thatvit should not be in schools at all.
I love Maus, every college kid should read it, but it's definitely adult material.
The part about his mother's suicide in particular is pretty strong stuff and Spiegelman doesn't draw that bit as cutesy animals but as real people. I don't think hormonal, angsty teens are emotionally stable enough to deal with that shit.
Little kids sucking off older men illustrated isnt pornography?
Not according to the UN.
That doesn't happen in any of the graphic novels discussed here.
What an absurd, delusional, paranoid rant, Brian. It's really simple: fucking doesn't belong in books provided to little kids by state agents. America is nearly unanimous on that. Until very recently, common sense prevented this from becoming a political issue. The people who started this are posing as the victims. Cut the crap—problem solved.
Cut the crap, indeed. The book banners have long since tipped their hand on this one. It's not about "children" or "fucking", it's about making it harder for anyone to access material they don't approve of or hear messages that hurt their precious feelings (even if those messages happen to be true).
Any published book in the world is at your fingertips in this country. There is nothing hard about searching Amazon. Using public schools to push a fringe sexual and social ideology on a captive audience of children is the problem. And we all know who it is that violently suppresses "messages that hurt their precious feelings". Hint: the same people who want that ideology pushed on children. So yeah, cut the crap.
Here's a great discussion about the dangers of reacting and "banning" books in schools.
Chelsea comes home after her first semester of college. Hillary is asking questions about her experiences. Hillary finally asks if Chelsea has had sex yet. Chelsea says not according to dad.
Here's all you need to know about book bans in the USA:
1. Books that affirm the oppressed trans community are banned
2. Mein Kampf isn't banned
Fucking fascism, straight up!
This is pretty retarded, even for you.
Unless it’s sarcasm, but my meter is broken so I have a hard time telling these days.
Even Bill Maher has mentioned you can't mock or laugh at the left because their views have become so incredible.
Has Springtime for Maher replaced Phantom of the Opera on Broadway yet?
Bullshit, I laugh at the left all the time.
Not a single book is banned in the USA. Not one. Even the Anarchist's Cookbook you can get your hands on.
It's not worth reading. I've been using the copy I got 30+ years ago in high school as a coffee table annoyance for the twit neighbors that my girlfriend keeps inviting over. It looks nice next to a history of "The Clash", and that cunt Tipper Gore's book (signed by the bitch herself).
How do you on the left embrace such purely absurd arguments and positions? This statement isn't remotely correct or properly framed, yet you aren't embarrassed at all about asserting it?
Oppressed how? By whom?
Why is a libertarian arguing the merits of anything paid for with property taxes?
What a remarkably long, worthless, article. I think this dude gets paid by the word.
This is the lie--
This is the truth--
It is not about stopping people from reading these books. It is not about public libraries AT ALL.
It is about parents, not bureaucrats, deciding what is age appropriate for their children and being able to stop activist teachers from broadly disseminating materials to students without caring if they're ready for it or not.
Further, children who are at a sexually vulnerable age do not need strange adults pushing their sexual ideas and identifications on them--particularly without parental knowledge or consent.
The left is not very good with details or logic. They are much better with emotions.
I could see your point if these books are being assigned by teachers as required reading. But this isn't about that, this is about them being left on shelves where the child could potentially check them out, but doesn't have to if they don't want to. I don't see how this violates parental rights. If the parents don't want their kids to check out those books and read them, they should just tell their kids to not check out those books.
What's really going on is that parents are afraid that their kids might ignore them and check out those books anyway. This isn't about activist teachers forcing their ideology down kid's throats. This is about control-freak parents being scared they'll lose the ability to raise their kids in an ideological monoculture. I don't think that should be a parental right, on the contrary, I think raising your child in an ideological monoculture violates your child's rights. Children who ignore their parents and check out library books their parents told them not to read are badasses who are taking their rights back from their awful parents.
I could see your point if these books are being assigned by teachers as required reading. But this isn’t about that, this is about them being left on shelves where the child could potentially check them out
In schools. You all keep leaving that out-- 'in schools'.
It is not the schools job to tutor children on sex, sexual identities, gender theory, sexual practices. Any of that.
It is particularly not their job to do these things to a captive audience without consent of the parents.
Then have your OWN kids and raise them however you like.
Don't impose your thoughts on others.
And no--by keeping those books from schools does NOT impose any thoughts on anyone. Teaching those ideas in class or assigning those books DOES.
Again, why are they offering comic books in schools with an increasing rate of illiteracy among the students? They can't read, write, do math or locate where they are on a map and those are the teachers. Morons raising another generation of morons.
Because comic books are great choices to get reluctant readers into reading. Comics books in school- and public libraries actually increases literacy rates, not the other way around.
Comics uniquely disrupt subtle distinctions and allow you to not think about meaning, implication, or context; images make it seem like the thing is right there, hitting your retina not as a concept but as a felt reality.
Mr. Doherty, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. From your use of bad, 80s-era “violent cartoons” psychobabble to using it to obfuscate your advocacy of “A man put on a dress, now we have to re-write all the laws about porn in school, right?” everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and I’m dubious enough as to God’s interest in showing you mercy that I wouldn’t even bother to invoke it.
I'm a rare breed these days: a public librarian who is also pretty firmly libertarian, and I'm not going to step into the fray here about book banning aside to say that my wife and I DO NOT send our kids to public schools for a whole variety of reasons, some of them to do with the idea that we want our kids to be free thinkers and to not be indoctrinated by the state.
What I will also say is this. Librarianship has changed dramatically from even 20 years ago, when the stereotype of a demure, somewhat conservative matron was behind the reference desk was still the norm. Librarians have become activists in the very worst sense of the word--fiercely tattooed, the vast majority subscribe to a cultural Marxism and Foucauldian nihilism coupled with a deeply cynical belief in the worst aspects of CRT. Indeed, at my most recent national conference there was a "BIPOC Affinity Room" from which white people were excluded.
What this profession does like to do, at this current moment in time, is repress the voices of conservative, libertarian and anarchist thinkers and staff, especially those who have questioned the Covid orthodoxy, such as myself. Most conservative staff members have left my organization fleeing the woke orthodoxy.
I'm a bit of a chameleon myself, partly because I will defend the 1st Amendment until I die, and fortunately most librarians still respect this.
But much like the abortion issue--the radical left has only brought this on themselves for their rabid desire for a post-truth, post-innocence and post-educated world.
Librarianship has changed dramatically from even 20 years ago, when the stereotype of a demure, somewhat conservative matron was behind the reference desk was still the norm.
Unless you're a librarian in rural S. Dakota, this has been going on for the better part of 40 yrs. at least. Every last librarian I've met for the last 40 yrs. was, between quintessential Karen and activist SJW. All fairly progressive relative to their social frames. It's a bit like the hard sciences and economics in academia. You may've had some pretty conservative holdouts that persisted for the last 20 yrs., but they never are or were going to hold back the tide of hipster idiots and "rape-wary feminists women whom no one would rape" which started rising well more than 20 yrs. ago.
"is repress the voices of conservative"
Okay, explain how. Because I'm saying you're lying.
Ha, you have no idea, unless you work in the field, which I do. It's incredibly intolerant of other viewpoints. And I'm far more a Christian-anarchist than I am libertarian-right. The woke mob even forced admin to take down a "Giving Tree" for the homeless of Christmas.
Actually all the librarians I've ever known are open minded, generally tolerant and want people to read no matter the subject.
So in other words, not republicans.
The way social conservatives have turned up this "groomer" rhetoric reminds me of the way SJWs are calling everything "white supremacist" nowadays, when they used to just call everything "racist." In both cases they were used to being able to get their way by telling outrageous lies and were able to browbeat people into going along with them. The SJWs were able to get their way by lying and saying everything they disliked was racist. The social conservatives were able to get their way and lying and saying that everything they want to censor was harmful to children.
Eventually, those tactics stopped working. People stopped falling for them and started standing up to them. So the rhetoric was turned up to 11. Instead of lying and saying everything was racist, SJWs lied and said it was "white supremacist." And instead of simply lying and saying stuff was "harmful to minors," social conservatives started lying and saying it was "grooming material" that "sexualized children." In both cases they are completely full of it.
I hope this is a sign that all these people are getting desperate, that they are stopping to such levels because people are no longer falling for their lies. For decades we've had all kinds of civil liberties violations defended in the name of protecting children, even though there is no real evidence that exposure to this material is harmful to them. Children whose parents let them watch R-rated movies seem to grow up just as psychologically healthy as children whose parents censor all their media.
The problem in this case is that the left is openly and apologetically marketing some pretty heinous stuff (on a prima facie level) to children. And they can't back off it, because it'll draw backlash from the LGBTP. And they're terrified of that backlash, so the practical effect is that anything goes. There's nothing they won't object to as "inappropriate" for a pre-pubescent (if not younger) audience. Even if they DO actually object to it, they won't dare voice it aloud.
That's not comparable to the "you disagree with me, therefore you're racist" garbage - which is often applied to people who are indisputably NOT racist. Because, in this case of the LGBTP (and their enablers), they ACTUALLY ARE marketing directly to children.
And we're not talking about R-rated movies. We're talking about materials that normalize, and therefore soften children up for targeted predatory behavior. It's ACTUALLY grooming them to think, "This is normal," (when it's not, and it's anything but) rather than "Call for help. At the top of your lungs. And shove a sharp object at that pervert's femoral artery if you can."
I, for one, am done Ghat. I spent a lot of time defending the homosexuals on the libertarian principles of privacy, consent, and not my business leave me alone I don't care.
But now they CLEARLY want to soften society up to pedophilia. They want to normalize that. I'm DONE defending the LGBTP. They are predators. If not personally, then they're enablers and defenders. Or useful idiots at best.
And until I see a massive and vocal rebellion against it, I'm going to paint all those rainbow SOBs with the exact same brush. If they don't like it, they'd better start actively rebelling against the direction their little "pride" movement is headed.
Heterosexuals, in extreme part, don't tolerate other heterosexuals who prey on children. If homosexuals won't get on board with that, then it's time to do something very decisive about them and their level of acceptance in society.
There’s nothing they won’t object to as “inappropriate” for a pre-pubescent (if not younger) audience. Even if they DO actually object to it, they won’t dare voice it aloud.
Exceedingly cogent. As I pointed out above, Doherty's earnest stance here is a 60-80s-era joke. Behind the scenes, Doherty's choice is, effectively, "Make myself(, the magazine, my occupation, the associated political causes, etc., etc.) look like an absurd living, breathing 80s joke or "risk" getting fired because I won't advocate for what may be cartoon kiddie porn.
"But now they CLEARLY want to soften society up to pedophilia. They want to normalize that."
This is indeed the next logical step it seems. Personally, I don’t think public funds should be used to pay for materials like this, if the community does not want it, and I’m actually a librarian. Be accessible on the private market? Absolutely fine with it if that’s your bag. Some brave people in the LGBTQ community HAVE stepped up, but have been violently attacked in both a literal and figurative sense.
Can you provide evidence for any of these claims?
The Christian conservatives are just projecting by calling everyone else a groomer.
I agree with most of the points here, but I feel like this overcomplicates why graphic novels are particularly targeted in these situation -- it's surely mostly because of the concern that even very young children can quickly perceive what's being depicted in them, versus a page full of text that even wholly literate kids might pass over on a casual glance.
Ultimately, I would say you’re being deferential and over complicating things as well. There are adults who want to exploit children’s inability to understand and consent and everything else is just a vehicle.
More cogent to your point, not just perceive the depictions but specifically misperceive them as well. This is the very point they openly advocate and state, the books need to be included to normalize the a contextual acceptance of the behavior even if neither the behavior nor the context is normal.
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IMHO, graphic novels are no more than comic books. You don't find comic books in the library.
False
To anyone who says there is no grooming going on in public schools (and you may be too dumb to know who you are), here: https://archive.is/BVL5X
It’s not hard, public libraries yes. School libraries no. If someone wants to leave the school and seek this out, let them. The problems with schools, is all of a sudden it becomes “required reading” which is introduction and indoctrination to people that have no desire to read and discuss the subject from that perspective. Knowing about trans and reading graphic stories about their sex life are two very different things. We never allowed Hustler or Penthouse in school libraries, why should this be different? Can I now go to the school library and look up heterosexual porn sites and watch them on the school libraries computers?
If no, isn’t that limiting my freedom and rights?
Just FYI, public libraries still operate on public funds, still trickle down into "required reading" via a multitude of ways*, and still broadly don't carry Penthouse, Hustler, or some/many times even nude figure art/photography books and, if they do, frequently specifically outside the children's section. None of which is to say there should be no tranny books in public libraries anywhere, but that the signature Marxist/Red Guard rot is far more obvious and pervasive than just school indoctrination centers.
*i.e. the American Association of School Libraries is founded and operated under the American Library Association which is responsible for much of the selective push in favor of these books for decades.
Can you show any examples of this actually happening?
Has Brian bothered to read the "old and Discredited studies" he condemns?
The linked material is an astute 1948 forecast of culture wars to come, and holds some astonishing facts about the genre— comic books did not exist in America until 1936, and many characters moved into print from animated cartoons and movies rather than newspaper funny pages
Librarians are often the activists.
No they aren't. They're just trying to offer choices. Something right is adamantly against as it tries to impose Christian shariah law on the US.
How does [t]hey’re just trying to offer choices refute [l]ibrarians are often the activists? They are not mutually exclusive conditions.
Proving they're activists is on you.