It Took 15 Years for the Feds To Approve a 700-Mile Electric Line
It'll be another five years before it's operational.

In November 2007, the original iPhone was barely four months old, Barack Obama was considered a long shot to win the Democratic nomination for president, and Steph Curry was a sophomore playing basketball for little-known Davidson College.
That same month, the TransWest Express Transmission Project filed its first request with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), seeking permission to build a 732-mile electric transmission line to connect a wind farm in southern Wyoming with a power grid serving the rapidly growing area around Las Vegas.
Last week, the BLM granted permission for the line to be built.
We've blown through 14 versions of iPhones, seen two terms of Obama's presidency (plus another term-and-a-half since he left office), and witnessed Curry score over 21,000 points and win four championships as a professional in the time that it took federal bureaucrats to review and approve an application for a transmission line carrying completely carbon-free, renewable energy across a mostly empty portion of the American West. That's a perfect illustration of the fact that the biggest obstacle to the government's renewable energy goals is often, in fact, the government itself.
Or governments, in this case. While the BLM took longer than anyone else to approve the project, the TransWest Express line suffered from "a 'spider web of jurisdiction' across multiple levels of government," according to Roxane Perruso, the company's COO. Perruso told EnergyWire, a trade publication, that the project required approvals from state, local, and federal entities—and getting those permits required surveys of over 40,000 acres of land for environmental impacts and 60,000 acres of land for cultural impacts.
All that to get permission to build a power line, which is less invasive than other forms of infrastructure can be. In addition to the BLM and state governments of Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, and Nevada, the project needed approval from the U.S. Forest Service, part of the federal Department of Agriculture, and the Western Area Power Administration, which is part of the federal Department of Energy. (In fairness, EnergyWire notes that the project also got snagged by disputes with some private property owners along the planned route.)
With all the permission slips finally locked down, construction on the line will begin later this year, and the 3,000-megawatt line could be operational by 2028, EnergyWire reports. By then, it'll be 23 years since the project was first proposed in 2005.
To put it simply: It should not take nearly a quarter century to build a supply line connecting renewable electric supply with an area where there is growing demand. But this is a recurring problem in America. A recent Princeton study found that 80 percent of the potential emissions reductions from green energy projects funded by the Inflation Reduction Act would be lost without an expansion of transmission lines.
The time and expense of permitting have slowed or prevented some major renewable energy projects in recent years. "Windmills off Cape Cod, a geothermal facility in Nevada, and what could have been the largest solar farm in America have all been blocked by an endless series of environmental reviews and lawsuits," Alec Stapp, a co-founder of the Institute for Progress, which advocates for policies that accelerate technological and industrial progress, wrote last year in The Atlantic. "U.S. climate spending could exceed more than half a trillion dollars by the end of this decade—but without permitting reform, those investments won't translate into much physical infrastructure."
Some of the most serious permitting obstacles are the environmental impact statements required by the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), which take 4.5 years on average and run over 650 pages. Sure enough, the environmental impact statement associated with the TransWest Express Line took nearly six years—from January 2011 through December 2016—to be completed. In the statement issued this week by the BLM announcing its final approval of the project, the agency notes that the project will include "mitigation requirements" to offset disruptions "to lands with wilderness characteristics" and impacts to the habitat of the greater sage-grouse, a chicken-sized bird that nests on the ground in the western U.S.
But if reducing carbon emissions and developing green energy are going to be major national objectives, the sage-grouse might just have to get out of the way—or at least be less of a concern. Permitting reforms proposed last year by Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.) would have capped NEPA environmental reviews at no more than two years in length, but that proposal was decried by prominent progressives as a giveaway to money-grubbing capitalists who want to turn a profit by, well, building the very green energy infrastructure that progressives say America desperately needs.
In March, the Republican-led U.S. House passed a huge energy permitting reform bill that was declared "dead on arrival" by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–N.Y.), though some parts of the bill might be included in an upcoming congressional deal to lift the debt ceiling.
Until there are significant reforms, however, expect future projects like the TransWest Express line to take decades, if not longer. Building big infrastructure projects will never be as simple as turning on a light switch, but there's no reason for the government to force utility companies to operate at the speed of a first-generation iPhone in a 5G world.
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But we'll have the grid up and running in time to power the mandated all-electric homes and autos, right?
Nope. They are perfectly willing to let the gird crash. Understand this, their goal isn't clean energy, their goal is no energy.
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You won't own an electric car, and you'll be happy.
No, you'll pay a small fortune for an electric car, enriching politically-connected manufacturers and dealers. Then you won't be able to drive it. They want to control you, and restricting you to the same geographical limits as a peasant in 1200 AD is a good start on that.
Might as well forget it, same thing Trump said when he was running in 2016. He had his people and lawyers check into building new bridges… they came back and told him getting permits was a 15 year process. Trump said forget it. So it looks like 15 years is the usual. So agenda 2030 lost it’s lock in cinching 8 years ago.
If they get rid of gas heating, appliances, and water heaters plus charge electric cars at night, a 3000 MW supply addition might power anywhere from 2500-4000 homes in an area (Southern California to Las Vegas) with a population of maybe 23-24 million people (none living 10k to a house).
By the time this line is built and operating (assuming it's carrying the full 3000 MW at all times), it'll maybe cover 1-2% of the demand increase since it was proposed.
The only way the line will carry the full load more than a few hours a day is if it's connected to a new fossil fuel or nuclear plant instead of building a wind or solar farm. But the permit for a fossil fuel plant takes another 15+ years, and permits for a nuke stretch out forever.
Not an ice cube's chance in hell.
Part of the problem is that it's not really about "renewable" energy in the first place. The tyrants in charge of "government at all levels" don't really care about climate change or carbon neutral or the other excuses for wielding power; they have never hesitated to reward their friends with exemptions and waivers, or punish their opponents with red tape. It's about the illusion of competence and the optics of getting elected, re-elected and appointed to positions of power.
Yup, actually addressing the claimed issue is the last thing people in the government care about. That's the irony of so much of what happens in government.
They're doing pretty terrible on the "illusion of competence" part.
Thanks, you stated what I thought but better; the government cares about itself, and each and every cog is focused on leaving work on time and making sure they make it to retirement.
If the grid is obsolete, under served, and crashes, it doesn’t matter: all remains well in their little lives. And government as a whole will live on.
A recent Princeton study found that 80 percent of the potential emissions reductions from green energy projects funded by the Inflation Reduction Act would be lost without an expansion of transmission lines.
[scratches head]
So, the reductions in emissions by using a less efficient/consistent form of generation will be lost if we don't build out the grid to support the additional forms of generation that don't outperform current capacity.
Sounds like you're peddling the standard-fare vendor lock-in kool-aid to me. Or, after you bought in to green energy, complaining that they didn't explain to you up front it would require investments in the grid too.
There will always be more required investments Eric, always.
To be fair, the premise of the article was that government red tape is government programs' own worst enemy, not that renewable energy does not require investment.
Government, first and foremost, serves itself. They are our worst enemy, not their own.
And when it is a large as it is [and will only increase to grow] they are beyond any measure of accountability.
The executive branch basically is the government at this point considering how much power Congress has delegated to it, and only two members are elected. One of which's only job is to break ties in the Senate. It creates regulation with the power of law, with no oversight at all.
About time people demanded no regulation without representation.
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And no representation without taxation.
Absolutely true. Congress (ALL) has relinquished control and acceptance of responsibility. This is by design as a means to having plausible deniability and an 'out' by always being able to blame someone else for their failures. Purposefully ambiguous statues that they know will be implemented through bureaucratic rule-making so they can always say, "Wait, that's not what we meant." or so the bureaucrats can implement the carve-outs for favored people or groups without the members of Congress having to actually be held accountable.
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Sure buddy, whatever you say.
That was my point though, there's red tape and then there's just getting swindled.
If I sell you a blender that's 80% more efficient than the blender you've got, you pay me the cost of the blender, and I ask you to sign the receipt, my request for signature is red tape.
If I tell you that the blender only approaches 80% greater efficiency if your counter tops are massive enough to support it when it operates on that setting, getting new counter tops isn't red tape, it's physics and you got, or are getting bamboozled/swindled.
Complaining about the red tape on the added cost that he implicitly or unwittingly bought into up front isn't a problem with red tape specifically because people *should* be double-checking his spending because he's a fucking moron.
The NIMBYs and activists will make sure that whatever "green" energy projects do get built are nowhere near the places where that power would need to go to be used.
Not to mention the storage issues necessary to make it all actually work. The people pushing the "green" agenda love to point out that one thing electric cars have going for them is that they'll mainly get recharged overnight, when other power demands are lower (at least until everyone gets switched from NatGas to electric heating in the winter) so there's extra capacity available. They also push that part of what makes solar generation more viable is that demand sags when the panels aren't producing power at night. The never put those two ideas together and explain how everyone's going to charge their e-cars at night once the power generation is shifted more to solar and wind which both tend to drop off in capacity (solar far moreso than wind) at night; nobody really addresses how it's supposed to work if we increase night-time demand while at the same time reducing the supply of available power during those hours.
Questions about how much extra power will need to be generated in order to supply New England with solar power generated in the southwestern deserts (assuming the sage grouse doesn't put the kibosh on turning AZ into a one giant bank of PV panels) just to overcone the line losses inherent in transmitting power over 2000 miles of wires are advanced-level compared to some of the most fundamental internal contradictions within the "green" agenda.
As I say, a Watermelon is someone that will tell you to drive your electric car home and plug it in to charge overnight from solar power.
And the answer, of course, is more bureaucracy and more government spending. Government lawyers to argue with government administrators.
The CA State legislature will probably just pass a resolution declaring that transmission losses in a high-voltage power grid are 1% of their actual level and consider the issue solved.
It's a wonder that they've never thought to address the near constant drought conditions in much of the State by simply mandating more and more usefully distributed precipitation. The idea that anything in the world is outside the control of either legislation or litigation doesn't seem to occur to most of them, and is definitely past the comprehension of Gavin Newsom.
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Don't see any provisions in the Constitution providing for an un-elected agency to control parts of the economy, as, for example, the entire automotive industry.
There certainly isn’t. The only tujgn where there could maybe be a case for any part of it is air quality, as it isn’t really comfortable to each state. And even that is debatable.
In March, the Republican-led U.S. House passed a huge energy permitting reform bill that was declared "dead on arrival" by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–N.Y.), though some parts of the bill might be included in an upcoming congressional deal to lift the debt ceiling.
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Not a surprise I guess that libertarians don't really understand comparative advantage.
Many jobs could move to where energy is cheaper. And then what needs moving is the more valuable stuff produced by that energy and not the cheap input that only gets more expensive when moved.
What's important above all is making sure Wyoming, etc remain depopulated. Because Americans are serfs and can't move.
Up yours; I'll live where I please.
Comparative advantage has just about nothing to do with this, which is obvious as soon as the article mentions 'green energy'.
JFree might know that, but he certainly can't support market-driven generation and distribution of energy.
Not a surprise that JFree doesn't really understand comparative advantage either.
Wyoming remains depopulated because there's little to no reason for anyone to want to move there, and the few people who do live there don't want more to come in any significant numbers.
The local authorities in places like Wyoming are so growth-averse, they frequently torpedo attempts to move any kind of industry or commerce to the area.
Besides which, the pool of people eager to spend 4-5 months of the year dealing with snow that's at least knee-deep isn't as large as you might think it is.
Moving industry into an area like that means moving raw materials in and finished products out in trucks on iced-over highways and through passes that might be closed for 2-3 months of the year; Wyoming in particular has a 300-400 mile stretch of I-80 which gets closed now and then due to deep snow and not enough local infrastructure or population to enable plowing to be possible (or make it necessary).
Funny that. Wyoming is depopulated because it’s too windy. Hell if anyone can figure out what to do with wind. So much wind that the cronyist utilities system (which makes sure that wind energy can’t be profitable because it also requires a massive transmission system as overhead) can find it profitable to ship wind to a place that has a comparative advantage in solar. And has far worse problems for future growth than too much snow and wind. Namely no water of any kind. But hey – maybe they can also get government to steal water from – say – Wyoming and Colorado g. To really keep it depopulated. Oh and a big reason – well the ONLY reason – states in wind country depend on east-west interstates ending in zero is because there are no north-south interstates ending in a different number connecting wind energy (and other resources too) from Canada down to Mexico. Because who needs highways and roads right? Let me guess. You live on the coasts.
To me, the solution is to put the solar farm in Las Vegas. On top of buildings, parking garages, in medians, homes, etc. Why move it 732 miles with transmission losses. Oh, the utility wouldn't make profits.
The solar farm already existed. So there's no good reason not to connect the two.
There was no good reason for the solar farm to exist in the first place.
There's nothing wrong with solar farms as long as they're privately financed.
They are all subsidized in several ways: tax benefits (yes, developers get to keep their own money, but the government takes more of mine to compensate, so fuck that) plus preferential grid access and mandated higher than market prices.
If they were privately financed, they wouldn't be built. Without subsidies, a wind farm will produce electricity at a higher cost than a natural gas-fired power plant, and it will be worth less because it's only available when the wind speed is within the right range, rather than being available when someone flips a switch.
And I've seen enough wind turbines not turning on a windy day to understand the subsidized ROI comes from being paid to build them, not from keeping them running (which is also pretty expensive) and selling the electricity produced.
Isn't it a wind farm, not solar?
Either way, it's in Wyoming because that's where they could ultimately get permission to build it. For all their supposed love of "renewable" energy, the greens don't much care to look at it; the Martha's Vineyard wind project took 20 years to get approval because the hyper-rich leftists who own the beach houses on the island didn't want the windmills to spoil their view (Ted Kennedy alone held the thing up for 10 years just because his family's compound would have had to see egg-beaters on the horizon if it got built).
A lot of homes in Las Vegas do have rooftop panels. Same with a lot of warehouses. The parking garages on the Strip tend to have parking on their top levels, but I'm sure a lot of customers would appreciate if the casinos (which consume considerable power) would install covers with PV panels over those spaces. My best guess would be that for a long time the low cost of power coming from the Hoover Dam has made a lot of local solar projects less economically tenable than might otherwise be the case.
Vegas at its core is built on bad judgement though; just based on the casinos, pawn shops, and wedding chapels along the Strip (which technically isn't in Las Vegas anyway). Not to mention the mere notion of locating a city in the middle of the desert like that.
Exactly. Wind and solar are phenomenally unique energy. They exist everywhere but only where they are and the fuel is different from the energy. It's like an enigma wrapped in a riddle that requires a highly decentralized mindset to unwrap.
Fortunately, libertarians of a particular ilk don't do decentralized. They just love massive and centrally planned energy utility projects that take decades to deliver on. As long as the central planners are billionaires who made their money from fossil fuels.
And then whine because governments were too decentralized to quickly enough unwrap their national energy transmission system idea. If only we can figure out a global migration angle here rather than merely a domestic migration angle. Then it's not a national plan but a global plan to ship wind to the Middle East and Russia.
It's almost like there's a reason the US is a moronic backwater when it comes to figuring this stuff out.
TransWest Express LLC, a subsidiary of Anschutz Corp., which also owns the wind farm project, said it expects to complete the project by 2028.
The Anschutz Corporation is an American private holding company headquartered in Denver, Colorado, United States. The company was started in 1958 by Fred Anschutz, a wildcatter, who developed and operated oil wells.
You don't, or can't, even aspire to understanding what decentralized means.
I know who the Anschutz' are. I like what they do here in Denver. But billionaires who made their money from fossils and have utilities as customers are not gonna figure out wind solar
The article above glossed over the issue of private property owner objections, focusing totally on government inaction. But, the private property owners deserve to be looked at for a moment. I am all about property rights, but the Energy publication linked above mentioned that some private property owners hung up the project merely because they objected to the power line going *over* their land. This is ridiculous! If the line is traveling over your land, there’s nothing touching your land, and no access rights needed from your land to any nearby towers, then you suffer no deleterious effects whatsoever and you should have no say. Current law on airspace rights says you have the rights over your land extending to what you can *reasonably* be able to use. A rancher in BFE won’t be building any skyscrapers any time soon so there’s no reason for said rancher to hold up the application.
Transmission Line towers cannot be further than a few hundred feet apart. I suspect "over" in this case also means towers are "on". And if we're talking ranchers owning significant acreage then there's going to be multiple towers.
Yes indeedy. God forbid we have governments that respond to local citizens rather than master planners sitting in skyscrapers far far away.
You're like some joke aren't you. Or maybe you live on the coasts too.
Check out articles about 'Corner Crossers'. Trespass lawsuits because they entered 'airspace' over private property. Lots of other issues involved besides that however.
It's a lot more intrusive than just towers and wires. This may not be true in Nevada, but in Michigan high-tension power lines require clear-cutting a swath through the forest. They can't have trees growing near the power lines, because the trees would short the lines and drop limbs on them when it gets windy. Then when new saplings take seed in the cleared area, they have to come through and kill them.
They also need to build a road underneath the power lines. If you have fences, they need gates to reach that road, and keys to those gates. The power company needs to be able to drive to any breaks. Since the road is there, they'll probably drive through a few times a year just to inspect the towers and wires. Maybe they'd use a helicopter instead in Nevada, but they still need road access because there is work you can't do while dangling on a rope from a chopper.
The desert southwest is doomed because the water is running out. There will be a mass migration starting out of the Las Vegas area just as this power line is completed.
That's Ok. The whole point of this transmission line was just to get the first 700 miles approved. The next 700 miles to coastal California is much faster with more federal funding opportunities
The problem is that the transmission line is only 700 miles long, If they were connecting a solar farm in New Jersey to their Las Vegas customers, the line could meander across the US to touch as many Congressional districts as possible. With the wire and pylons and concrete being manufactured locally - locally being wherever the line goes - you'd get buy-in for expedited review by half of Congress. Sure, the emoluments means you're going to have to charge $15 per kilowatt hour to make the project make economic sense, but sacrifices must be made for Mother Gaia and Her priests aren't cheap.
Good points, some of which I'd not thunkeded about before, ever!
(BTW, besides sending ALL of our money AND our firstborn to them, what doth one best DOOOO, or send, to appease Mother Gaia and Her priests? Does genuine whale blubber work, or does sauteed Sacred Endangered Digestive Intestinal Bacteria of Endangered Greater Southern Yellow-Bellied Slime-Toad work best of all?)
They prefer human sacrifices. Grandma dying in a heat wave without power for air conditioning will do just fine. So will your children freezing to death when your electric car runs out of battery in a blizzard.
How dare you!
"Green energy" is the biggest grift going so far with climate change coming in a close second.
Wind turbines turn the landscape into ugly caricatures and destroy wild life. They are not that efficient and damaged parts cannot be recycled but they sure make lotsa money for the grifters involved.
Solar is a huge joke that delivers only 20% of claimed production.
Thanks to Algore, the little Swedish bish and the near literate anti oil protestors, most of whom come from wealthy families, the main stream media that pushes the so called climate change agenda/b.s., America will soon be suffering from a real energy shortage and it won't be from the lack of windmills or giant magnifying glasses converting sunlight into volts.
It's all rubbish.
China is at least a decade ahead of us in nuclear power. They are constructing of 4th generation helium cooled reactors now whereas the NRC licensed a prototype 3rd generation light water reactor after a 5 year approval process.
Rational people realize that the NRC should be burned, razed and replaced with a vastly different regulatory scheme.
Now we see another example of the humor in: "I'm from the government - I'm here to help"
More proof that government is the idiots who tell the experts how to do their job.
Eternal energy shortages? Meh. Once you own nothing you will have no need for energy.
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I used to think a story like this makes governments and progressives look bad. But then along came Covid. If anyone thinks this is uniquely a government/progressive issue then they should rethink things. We are at a place in society where large projects will always have an interest group opposing it. And these interest groups are able to apply a lot of pressure. And they have learned that asymmetric struggle works. You don't have to stop vaccines from being created and shipped. You just have to chip away at things. Stop mandates. Spread your arguments (and sometimes disinformation) widely through social media.
Attacking government or framing it that way is silly. What alternatives would we have? Let corporations propose 700 mile power lines? How would that work out? You think we might be concerned for our rights when Ruport Murdoch decides to put a power line in your backyard?
Environmentalists blocking green energy shows you the truth. It isn’t about the environment, it’s about forcing people to live horrible lives at a hugely reduced standard of living. How long before they force people with larger homes to take in the homeless in the name of “fairness” like in Dr. Shivago? Don’t laugh, both are the result of Communism.
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